Bobby Fischer Allows Short A 6 Tempi Start In The Secret Online Game 1 By Messing With His King!!!
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2019
- These secret online games between Bobby Fischer and Nigel Short, dating back to 2001, stand out in many ways. Gone are the theories where this was a Bobby Fischer impersonator who used an engine to beat Nigel. This theory is now out of the window but can we categorically say the person who has beaten Nigel Short was Bobby Fischer? Even if not, this person had to be on top of his game and this is why. This video uses Artificial Intelligence Software DecodeChess to assess if a chess engine could be used to take Nigel Short down.
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Fischer's unorthodox king moves is some of the most interesting chess out there. I've never seen someone embody a game more.
Thank you so much for this video!
Is there any way you can please do a similar analysis of the last game (game 8) of this 8-game match between "Fischer and Short" ?
Thank you again.
Somebody told Fisher that Nigel short was saying he played him and Fisher said "He can whatever the hell he wants."
Reminds me at the game engine vs magnus Carlsen.
Engine just played na6 and back.
So after 4 moves engine position was the Startposition.
Evaluation was +2 and 15 moves later Carlson lost.
And this is most likely what happens in these games- someone plays some silly moves at fitsy, has a disadvantage, then the engine takes over.
@@mizofanCould be, but we also have to take into consideration that engines were not yet that strong in 2001 to beat a strong GM.
The moment, you recognize that your GM-Title is a crap...
Hi Reiner, long time no see.. where you been?
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High Chesspuzzler!
Nice, you answered! Makes feeling, that our planet is a village...
Same time and squeezed at same gallactic spot!
Come together! (John Lennon)
Lol we do live in a global village.. the world nowadays is way too small.
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May be that the world is sometimes too smal, but chessboard is ALLWAYS to small!!!😡
I vote for more files.
Go for Go!
Anyway Bobby Fischer is legendary. Thanks TheChessPuzzler and ask for more movies with Bobby
I was wondering if it is possible for Deep Mind A.I. to analyze all Bobby Fisher Games and use that knowledge to improvise on that level to the next level!
it is.. I don't see why this would not be possible.
Bobby Fischer himself specifically stoped this rumor, he said himself he never played short. In fact he didn’t play regular chess at after 92 he played exclusively Fischer random
Fischer was asked directly if he played any online chess games and he answered no.
Hi Pockets.. yes Fischer at the time said too many things... I rather then not go into what exactly but he also said he hated chess but you know he never meant many things he said.. He was not the Bobby Fischer as we knew him.
@@GMThechesspuzzler : He said he hated the modern chess scene, arranged games, etc. He was writing a book which he said was stolen, but his purpose was to expose what was ruining chess, and he wanted to save it. All of it was filmed in Reykjavik if you recall and other filmed interviews. I think he was intentionally echoing Morphy who first said, "I hate chess".
@@rogerscottcathey Yes but that certainly does not mean this player was Fischer, rather than an engine.
Fischer didn't like publicity, that gives him a good reason to lie
develop your piece, dont loose tempo, get your piece out on active squares, complete development...
Fischer:
That's why he moved his King 4 times in the opening?
It's not clear for me , what is the main variant, and what is the theory explaing variant. An Marker or Signal Flag util do variants are helpfull, the main route isn't present while watching as non computer player.
Thanks! Great!
I knew it wasnt an engine. What engine would play a bong cloud?
I would have left the table the moment I saw that king going back forth two times
Fischer or not. Whoever this is, is a phantom on the chess board. His moves are the reason why traditional chess needs to be spiced up. Anything is possible in chess. The combinations during a chess game was said to be the number 10 with 40 zero's, that's more then all the atoms in our solar system x2. Thinking about that, the combinations are unlimited and fischer or not, whoever this is. Was doing ALOT of his homework, or, who knows, maybe he learned something none of us have yet. Great video and great chess game. Im going to study these games
This is fischer or an engine. This is super gm stuff or engine moves. Remember nigel lost 8-0. Nigel was near kasparov level in blitz at this time
@@sebastianjosefsson3620 there was no engines at this time that could make these moves lol
@@sebastianjosefsson3620 even today engines would not make those moves. This was fischer
No engine is gonna play bong clouds
These are all human openings
Excuse me Mr. Chess Puzzler how can you exclaim that these moves are engine moves when it has been clear from the start that Fischer has been buggering about for the fun of it for a ton of moves already? Who's to say that these so called "engine moves" aren't just some interesting looking moves to "bugger about" with at any time he liked? And still be probably confident of winning?
It was not Bobby but an anonymous player who use the Fritz chess program after he played the first 5 moves by himself. Both Fischer and Short denied it was Fischer.
Fritz chess program could not have beaten Short 8-0 after that terrible opening, Short was 2700 and one of the best blitz players.
Short said he was 99% sure it was Fischer, and it's not actually the game itself but the way the unknown played talked, he yapped about jews and also responded immediately to all of Shorts questions and some of them like the Mexican chess player question, could only be answered by Fischer.
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I believe it was him and we have to take it from Fichers point of view and why he would lie an say it wasn't him. Ficher obviously believed people were screwing him over an making money off his chess career. I believe during that time Ficher was in hiding as well, so he wouldn't openly admit it was him because he knew the press an what not would of made all the money from publishing these blitz games an what not, and he also knew, the press would of haggled to find him an talk to him about it, something Ficher would not of wanted as he valued his privacy, especially if he was in hiding at this time.
It was an engine.
it was Fischer
Nice evaluation. This was matter of debate whether the guy used engine or not? But at that time engines used to be too materialistic. On average blitz game Short was at the same level of Kasparov at that time. So he was not Kasparov for sure
And you think then that this opponent, if not an engine, would crush Short 8-0 after putting himself at a clear disadvantage?
Short is a computer expert himself at that time. He said he would know for sure if that guy was using an engine. And yes engine in 2001 in unheard of unless you own a programming company
@@mizofan the best computer engine at the time was GM level at most, like Fritz. Deep Blue and Rebel could not have been used either as they are supercomputers and their moves (even the mid game and end game ones) are not at all the ones the unknown player used.
It was absolutely Fischer
Is it really fischer?
Fritz Zipar Short himself suggested it. At that time Short was as strong as Kasparov in blitz games.
It was not debunked u fish
who debunked it?? your dreams??
Very possible. Who else???
@@columkenn an engine, deliberately given a disadvantage?
bongcloud
"Fischer" not Fischer.
For anyone who believes that Fischer played a secret online blitz match with Short and then played crazy opening moves then crushed one of the strongest gm's of the day 8-0 lol you are just as mad as Fischer was.
Well. It happened. Whoever played against Short. It happened.
who else do you think can spot Short those crazy opening moves and still win?
@@mdnealy4097 no human being could have crushed Short 8-0 like that , that's just a fact. it would take an opponent who was at least 1000 elo stronger than short to do that.
@@jasonwilliams4659 if that was so, you still need to answer who answered correctly and instantly , Siegen 1970.
@@mdnealy4097 If indeed that really happened.