How Did A Heretical Movement Emerge?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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1. Why belief that someone is not dead 8s heresy?
2. worshipping of anyone/anything but the Lord is idolatry, indeed, no matter whether he is dead or alive. Did the Lubavicher Rabbi demanded or suggested to worship him? I never heard that!
I'm concluding that they suffer from Chabad derangement syndrome in the way the world suffers from trump, Israel and Netanyahu derangement syndrome, sad to see such divisive nahrshkeit. I grew up with and was married by Chabad rabbis and never heard any of this, conspiratorial Jews talking about other Jews somehow is not LaShan Hera 👀
one of my rabbis say that the person in question was not a talmid chacham - he said that once an avreich came to get a haskamah on a sefer from this person and he didn't understand basic ideas any average yeshivah boy would know
Yes indeed, there's is an element in chabad that misconstrued this idea that the Rebbe is moshiach even after he passed on. . but to blame the Rebbe for people misconstruing what he said, is like blaming Moshe Raneinu for the צדוקים misconstruing Torah.
Just by the way, believing in the idea that a person that is not alive can still come back as moshiach, is clear from the גמרא.
So it's an erroneous idea, but heresy???
I seen document with stamp that the Rabbi is Moshiah. I know for fact that The Rabbi wrote he is not Moshiah . Letter from the Rabbi himself wrote. I was given to read it
3 questions that the Rav should address directly are:
1) Do you believe in the 13th principle of faith of Rambam? If so, is that supposed to be understood according to its plain meaning, or as some kind of allegory?
2) Is Elijah the Prophet alive or dead? Does the Torah say that Elijah the Prophet will be resurrected? Is that supposed to be understood according to its plain meaning or as some kind of allegory?
3) Particularly in the case of Elijah the Prophet, there seems to varying viewpoints and understandings of whether he is alive or dead. In the context of Elijah the Prophet, what does it mean for him to be alive? What does it mean for him to be dead?
I've never seen replies to comments here, they have a secret chat room where they supposedly interact with the public, but discussing Elijah and his comings and goings and reality or figurativeness would be a fascinating discussion as it's an essential elemental commonality of Judaism yet here they are scorning Chabad, next video will probably be ripping into Netanyahu for a change with JP telling how he's not listened to when he visits the military, you think he'd be able to sum up some capital and build all of the weapons he's imagining
Excellent job
There is Judaism and there is secularism.Between them,there are many sects unfortunately.As the rav have pointed out,in the history of Jews, this kind of heretical movement always exist along side the truth.For example,after the fall of the 1st temple buddhism and taoism was borned, after the fall of 2nd temple christianity was borned,after the death of Rabbi Yitzhakh Luria chassidism and reform judaism was borned and it eventually leads to holocaust and secularism afterwards.Its like G-d is hammering a steel to make something and sparks flies when He hit the steel and also bad steels falls off.Beloved are those who returned(does teshuvah).
Reform predates the shoah by at least 75 years. Sad to see such denigrating talk about Chabad
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscape Yes.I've corrected. 😌
I like Chabad. They do a ton of good. We look the other way on the weird stuff
Simp comment 😂
@@samuelluluever been married? Ever had a business partner? Everything in life has tradeoffs. Everything. Including our choice of halachic observance and our choice of friends and whether we agree with Chabad 100% or 80% or 60%. Western civilization is in free fall and with it freedom. Islam and Marxism are ascending. We tiny pack of Jews are hemmed in on every side by fierce enemies who want to eradicate us. There is zero room for perfectionism in our world.
I always wondered why the Sefardim, in contrast with Ashkenazim, never created powerful and huge Hasidic dynasties with multitudes of sects led by poweful rebbes. Was it because of survival strategy to overcome nascent European secularism? or simply a power grab for self-dermination over an outdated jewish learning and prayer as exemplified by the Mignagdim. Just a question!
I've seen videos of sefardi from Morocco kvelling with adulation en masse praising and adoring him, not sure what causes that vibe in any population, unsure if the Safardi system is dynastic or not, you're noticing that there's not the dividedness in that Jewish society and that there are not multiple sects and three synagogues for two Jews such as in Kabul or whatever the numbers were? It bums me out to see this channel obsess so much on Chabad, reminds me of my favorite Jewish joke; Jewish unity
Him meaning their local Sefardi community rabbi,
@@GreenCanvasInteriorscapeyou need to work on your written skills
Specifically what?
Not like I'm wrong
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape In your response to my comment, you wrote everything as one sentence. There are no periods or full-stops (using grammatical jargon). In addition, you jump from one idea to the next, leaving a reader like me wondering what you are conveying. Sure, I can sense that you feel that Chabad is being unfairly targeted by Rabbi Barchaim. But, my comment pertains to the Eastern European Hasidic movements or sects. You are also mistaken regarding the opinions you have drawn about viewing on TV some Morrocan Jews davening on their ancestor Rabbi kevers. Yes, they daven intensely during Hiloula celebrations. You, however, need to keep in mind that these Morracan Tsadiks, people daven to, are dead and are in the Olamaba. In contrast, the current Ashkenazi hasidic movements, with their still living Reɓbes, remain quite focused on their Rebbes' veneration and adulation. To remain fair in making the contrast between Sefardim and Ashkenazim, my point can be challenged by using the case of Honorable Baba Sale and, to a lesser extent, the late Rav Ovadia. Still, my point remains clear. Far too many dynastic movements in Ashkenazim, far too many Galut type Judaism. Also, I haven't yet noticed any huge dynastic divisions and power clusters within the Yemenite and Ethiopian Beta Israel. Take care.
It seems like the Rabbi in this Videos idea of moshiach comes from Christianity.
In Christianity Moshiach = gd which is idolatry.
In Judaism Moshiach is a a man, a teacher of Torah and Mitzvos to the Jewish people.
(In the Jewish lexicon Moshiach does not mean g-d)
So what's your point?
No chabadnik believes otherwise. The Rebbe is a teacher, leader, Tzaddik .. where's the problem?
And if you are talking about Fringe elements, what does that have to do with the Rebbe and main body of chasidim??
@@HR-op2cq all I'm saying is that this Rabbi doesn't seem to know what the Jewish view of Moshiach is.
My comment was about the Rabbi in the video not about Chabad.
@@HR-op2cqand?