Tim and Sid: Why were Senators fans so upset by Melnyk’s comments?
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2017
- Tim and Sid have a lengthy discussion about why Senators fans are upset about Eugene Melnyk’s comments during the NHL 100 Classic weekend.
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Long distance to arena, driving is the only viable option, incredibly long traffic to leave plus the cost of parking is almost as much as the cheapest tickets...
whostolemyTV but then why is everyone upset about moving the team?
because it would be an even longer drive if the team was in i don't know lets say Quebec city? no one would be upset if the team moved from kanata to lebreton they are upset about relocating which is what melnyk was referring to
He is saying stop making it hard to run a team here. Come to the games and let me move the team downtown and make it easier.
Exactly I live in Kanata and it still takes me 30 minutes to get to a game
whostolemyTV The Blues are in another state and about 45 mins drive away. I have season tickets and pay $20 for parking each game.
Fans will go, or they won't. Don't complain because you have to drive to see a game. Why would they move the stadium a few miles when they can't fill it now?
Maybe fill the stadium and then say "look, you have the fans. We just need it closer to consistently come to games"
I find it mind boggling that these two get air play. Here are the issues:
- He bought the team when it was valued between $130-$150 million. It is now valued at $570 million despite consistently
being close to the bottom of the league in cap spending
- Ottawa has had several fan favourites leave town over the years because of his perceived greed
- The rink location is absurd, and the parking even worse. Melnyk knew this when he bought the team
- Considering he would literally be dead if not for a Senators fan giving him a new liver, it's especially heinous to question
whether there are enough fans in Canada's capital to support an NHL team
- There was something especially vile about the timing of his threatening words to fans Friday, one day before his
Ottawa Senators would host the city's first outdoor game as part of the NHL's ongoing 100th anniversary celebration. He
chose that moment to blackmail the people of Ottawa with the threat of relocation
- You have to be a special breed of billionaire to gripe about money after chastising your franchise's best player for
expressing his desire to fair compensation on his next contract as he did when Karlsson spoke out a few weeks ago
- He should have agreed to pay Daniel Alfredsson in his last season. Instead the fans watched as their beloved hero signed with
Detroit when he should have stayed where he belonged
- Melnyk is worth more money than 99.9 percent of the world, yet he complains about being cash poor and unable to pay
players or scouts. It's the only thing fans want to hear about less than reporters' airport problems or hotel points system.
- Two outstanding groups with very deep pockets are waiting in the wings to get their hands on this team. Both groups would
jump on a chance to finance decontamination of the proposed downtown location, without government funding, thus forever
eliminating the catastrophic current location of the rink.
Melnyk is a fly in the ointment at this point. Betteman, of all people, was the "good guy" over the weekend when he had to intervene on behalf of the board of governors, and the city of Ottawa. #melnykout
I'm a Leafs fan and I'm only in Ottawa for school but it truly is hard to make it to a game here. I get some people don't have the cash for it. Others don't care enough about the team to go. But then there are people like me who would love to go to a few games a season, but the only thing holding me back is the fact that the arena is just too far away from the downtown core.
NHL games are always a fun thing to see live no matter what team is playing but having the Sens closer to the downtown core will tremendously increase attendance.
If any team in the league needs a new stadium, its the Sens.
Is there really no charter buses that go there?
There are buses that take you there but they take about 1 hour to get there. Plus there is nothing around the arena really that offers entertainment. Downtown there are a ton of things to do before and after the game.
If it were the Leafs and it took you an hour to go and cost $32 (cheapest seat I found for tomorrow's game), you wouldn't go? This is how Senators fans should be looking at it.
I'll say that if I could find a similar deal (a short travel time compared to those of us that live outside the downtown core, and dirt cheap) for Leaf games I'd be in attendance for every single home game.
rivahkillah As a Leaf fan, of course I would go. But i think the main problem in Ottawa after being here for 2 years is the fact that people don't care enough to make it all the way out there.
You gotta think of it from the casual fan perspective. If it was downtown you could grab some food and drink at a bar in byward market and then make a short trip to the game. Thats a huge incentive for people who aren't die hard fans. Its these sort of people that the Sens have to bring to their games. The fans that support the team from their home every other game.
rivahkillah i drive 4 hours at least 2-3 times a year to watch my leafs play. From windsor to t.dot. I wish the arena was an hour out and tickets under 100 id be at 10 games a year
Melnyk: i need a liver , help me!!!
Anonymous donor: Here you go, please do what you can to bring the cup home to Ottawa.
Melnyk: Thanks for the liver, Cya idiot.
I’m 10 mins from arena and I think they would sell better if the arena was downtown
Just relocate The arena location
Outdoor Rinkler at whose expense? Is the risk worth the reward? Are the fans actually gonna show up? Do you take them at their word and spend hundreds of millions of dollars for a flakey fan base?
Clayton Hines flakey fanbase huh ruclips.net/video/8UpRTiBpMQY/видео.html
Clayton Hines go here and Go to 3:32 and watch tim rant ruclips.net/video/Y2hDM0tQ2t0/видео.html
Mr. Man yeah
Mr. Man you talk about it like its an easy thing to do. Calgary might lose their team over the arena dispute. Where you going to get the funds for this move? Who is gonna justify spending hundreds of millions of dollars to build an arena when they can't even come close to filling the one they have now.
Move the arena closer pleaaase
Russell Donald you can't just pick up an arena and move it. It would take at least five years to agree on a spot, payment, and to actually build the thing. A 30 minute drive is no excuse not to go to a conference final.
Weak it takes at least 45mins to drive downtown in bad traffic to reach the ACC. It takes millions and support to build a stadium.
Here's the thing... Attendance numbers are so low solely because it is about a thirty minute drive from downtown Ottawa. Were we to have an arena DT or at least close, those numbers would go way up. Also, Melnyk has only allowed the GM's to spend money at around the beginning of last year. And *coincidentally* we end up going to the 3rd round. #MelnykOut was trending for a reason. He is not like any other owner. He threw his fans under the bus and threatened to move the team like *that*. He blames the fans for not wanting to drive all the way to Kanata to watch the games.
''He blames the fans for not wanting to drive all the way to Kanata to watch the games'' Put it anyway you want, if you guys don't buy tickets, you will lose your team. unfortunate, but how could that NOT be the case? East final and the fans are not willing to drive 30min to watch the game? think about it......
Leaf fans in the suburbs gladly make the trip to the city to watch the game. Regular season I can understand. But conference finals and not making the trip to the arena? Inexcusable
Conor Byrne I'm a caps fan and people drive more than an hour and a half through DC traffic to watch Caps games. And because the arena is in DC, parking is either expensive or far, but probably both. It's a shame you can't sell out a playoff game, let alone an eastern conference final.
Relocate to the city of Ottawa
he is 100 % right, ottawa fans should hope it moves closer to their town
I live 10 minutes to the arena and it's still a major pain to get there. Worse location for an arena in the city, outrage parking cost, traffic and team sucks ass and it's all the fans fault?
All I see our sens fans talking about a 30-45 min drive. Give me a break. Many fan bases drive/commute long distances to watch games. Blaming an owner who spends the 11th highest in payroll yet receives 25th attendance is a poor argument. There's no reason a dedicated fan base wouldn't attend an eastern conference final game. Key word "dedicated". Not sure if there's enough of those fans in ottawa
Its not a 30 to 45 minute drive. Its an hour or an hour and a half from where people live in Ottawa. When there is traffic (ie when a game is being played) it can easily be 2 hours in both directions, and its worse if you bus. Its honestly easier to bus to Montreal and watch a game there
Didn't see anything offensive there
Must have missed what Mr. Melnyk really said/meant. And btw, he is 100% right with everything else he said, as well! Every single franchise in this league is a BUSINESS. Just buy the ottawa franchise and keep losing money, if you are so sensitive about a possible ''relocation''.
Not even that, the clip is edited so it leaves out potential seconds that could change the whole meaning too, but overall it isn't a disaster, and during his season ticket holder meeting he even said it was taken out of context and twisted to make it look bad, which the media is good at in ottawa
the problem right now is that no one owns the 300 section of the CTC. Back in the days of the Corel Centre, Nortel owned the 300 section and would give discounted tickets to employees. Now, no one owns that whole section and therefore fewer ticket sales.
This might be the NFL I'm using as an example, but here goes...
The New England Patriots(back in the day, they were the Boston Patriots) play in Foxboro, halfway between Providence and Boston on I-95/US-1. Yet, IINM, they're also served by the T's MetroLink trains. Any good sporting house location needs to have access to major roadways and/or public-transit(preferrably train) services.
Melnyk should just sell the team
As a Sens fan, it wasnt really his comment that pissed me off, it was the timing 100%. The fact he made these comments during a very special time for us fans [Being the 100 Classic and Alumni Game] really pushed buttons. If he had simply said it at a different time, then sure, no real issue [for me at least]. It is the truth that we are a small market not pulling enough in. It's true. It's also true that our city is based off Government jobs, where it's pay system is screwed. I go to games myself, as I don't work for the Government, but I know a lot of Government-employed friends, who can't even get Christmas presents for their family.
To sum it up, yes, we are a small market not pulling in enough, but there are some circumstances that must be seen that also help cause the issue.
That's understandable, first comment that make sens!!! Best of Luck to you guys.
IS it his fault he ANSWERED a QUESTION that a reporter asked him? Christ he didn't bring it up he was asked and he responded. He didn't threaten anyone. He simply stated that if it turned into a disaster here in Ottawa he would consider moving it. Meaning Sens Fans don't let it turn into a disaster!!!!!!!!! Its times like this i wish Sens Fans were as loyal and stupid as Leaf and Habs Fans
The truth is the truth sweeping it under the rug doesn't fix things. They have to lobby to have these games outside which costs more money in order to make profit to keep the team in Ottawa. A new arena is a huge investment and risk especially with the low attendance.
A large number fans drive over half an hour to attend a game. That’s certainly been true in the markets I’ve lived in. In fact I think it takes half an hour plus to get anywhere that isn’t down the street.
Does Ottawa not have suburbs? There are usually just as many if not more fans in the greater metropolitan areas as the actual city. I assure you they drive and park for games.
What Ottawa fans wanted in 2017, and still want in 2019 is a new Arena in downtown Ottawa. If Melynk gets the arena built, it will pay off very quickly. Stop waiting/pushing the offers of Melynk and get the job done!
I think if you dive into the history of attendance, that may tell you a very different story. The attendance hasn't always been low. And perhaps also consider the geography of the city. Lastly, the product also has been highly inconsistent, making any momentum to build excitement very difficult. Finally, what about all of the infrastructures that was promised in 1990s'? Only until 2017, was the highway congestion issue addressed. If you want more season ticket holders, you must shorten the commute. You are asking too much for someone to attend games 41 times a year, to take that commute. its s perspective, but is also not realistic to ask anyone to do so more than a few years.
The drive and parking to go to an Ottawa game is more than the cost of admission and extras for the majority of teams in the US. 2018 Third round playoff tickets to a Nashville game cost less than a third of an Ottawa third round ticket. Supply and demand and location. I'm more annoyed that the media is trying so hard to make something more of this news story than what it is.
This comment may be a bit late to the game, but there’s a lot more within the city itself that play a role in why Sens game attendance is rather low. One thing is this city is a government city, and considering how we’ve been dealing heavily with the Phoenix pay system mishap, people are not really for spending money seeing how they haven’t gotten paid or barely been paid. That’s just one of the multiple aspects I’ve heard about when discussing this topic.
I agree what he said wholeheartedly and people shouldn’t be mad. Very true.
Maybe moving very close to downtown Ottawa it will help fans come more , sky rocket ticket sales..
I understand that the arena is far away but that can only be an excuse for so long, iv been to some leafs and jays games and it takes over an hour to get to the arena for me. The entire way there and back the buses or/or trains are packed with fans who are happy to make the trip to see their team play, and this has been when the jays and leafs were terrible teams as well. If you love the team enough you will find a way to go see them.
If they're going to move somewhere move to Quebec. Gurenteed they will sell out every game. Feel bad for sens fans everywhere and feel I bad for karlsson. hope things improve -From a pens fan
I know some people to refuse to believe this is an issue, but LOCATION. The location of the stadium is literally on the outskirts of Ottawa, it's not even IN Ottawa itself technically. From DOWNTOWN Ottawa to Canadian Tire Centre it's about a 30 minute drive. Take into account that a lot of people don't own their own vehicle and have to bus. To Bus from Downtown Ottawa to Canadian Tire Centre is about an hour or more.
Then there's the fact that there's a good chunk of people further East Ottawa in the Gloucester and Orleans area who would drive about 45 Minutes or more to get to Canadian Tire Centre. To take a Bus from Gloucester or Orleans would take you an eternity to get there.
The Location is really NOT good. There are LOADS of people who would LOVE to go to the game, but it's a HUGE inconvenience to get to Canadian Tire Centre. If the Owner wants to move, he should move more INSIDE OTTAWA and I GUARANTEE you that attendance would go up GREATLY! Having something closer to Downtown would encourage people to go to games way more. It would be an even distance from all directions and would be an easy bus ride for people who don't drive.
Location. I'm telling you that's the biggest problem with attendance in Ottawa. Obtain a better location and you'll see those numbers go up.
JSkeleton would you bet your own 200-300 milion on that? I know i wouldnt. Id take the easy and more safe money. But i do understand ehat you mean, and still think its not valid. I drive 4 hours at least 3-5 times a year to watch my team play. Even with some of the highest ticket prices in the league.
what did melnyk do? yea. what did he do? absolutely nothing. he hasnt do anything for the last 5 years and demands the fans pay for his budget team that has apparently "barebone management", his arena which he has barely done anything in the way of improving the every mans experience, hes only improved his own experience. Maybe he should do something. but then again, it only took him 7 years to pave most of the parking spaces, but of course leaves the one used primarily un paved. obviously the solution to bringing in fans is another wine rack, that'll solve all our problems
Know how much the Leafs had to pay for their land the arena is on? $1. Why? Toronto wanted to help the team. Here in Ottawa they send canoes down a ditch to stall construction on the Arena for turtles. See the difference? Ottawa doesn't support a team properly. I say this as a Sens Fan btw
hmmm the city which was helpful for the redblacks start up, but not for melnyk. its almost as if melnyk is a horrible person that the city doesnt want to promote. its almost as if melnyk is the issue for this whole thing.
No no this is back before Melnyk was here. The city has never really helped the Sens out at all. Look at this new location. The city is doing everything it can to put road blocks in the way. In toronto they basically said heres the land go make money please. Melnyk remember came in and saved the team. Bryden wanted out and was going to sell the team cuz he couldnt afford to loose money anymore. Melnyk came in and shelled out his money when no one else wanted to. Time sens fans start showing some appreciation to a guy who is saying "Look i need people to start showing up or I can't keep the team here." What an evil guy eh? Give me a break.
These guys obviously don't do their homework.
Curtis what specifically are they wrong in? Everything they've said has been objectively true.
Yeah show your work Curtis.
Curtis yeah CURT LETS SEE THAT WORK
Where's your homework Curtis?
Curtis HEY CURTIS YA STILL HAVEN'T SHOWN NO WORK THERE BUD
Move the stadium further in the city OR improve commuting to and from the stadium. As far as I can see, you can only either drive or take ONE bus and that's it; no other public transport option. Not familiar as to why they chose that location for the stadium to be built in (living in the UK), perhaps to enhance the area's development in corporate/housing ways but the lack of reliable, punctual and safe public transport would never bring success to such a project.
The winter classic shows that there could be a sell out every game in Ottawa. LeBreton flats Arena would definitely attract people, but Melnyk knows that since people in Ottawa have been complaining about the location of the CTC.
But folks, there is light at the end of the tunnel. If we can't support the team now that there are talks of building a new arena to a more central location, Melnyk just is not going to risk spending millions on that new place. It is a vicious circle. We need to go to the games and remove the fans out of that circle.
Go Sens Go!
There's two things that they gotta do, clean up lebreton flats which will be around $150 million to $200 million, then build the arena which will be another $250 million to $400 million. Add in another $100 million for extra space just in case, you're looking at $500 million to $700 million dollars for total estimated expenses to build a new arena downtown. I'm not even mentioning the cost for building the condos and other buildings surrounding the arena. Eugene can't afford that by himself and the city of Ottawa doesn't have any interest in helping out. Look how much the city of Edmonton put in for the new arena, they paid over $300 million while Daryl Katz and the Oilers paid about $170 million. At the end, the whole thing costed over $600 million and they are charging a surcharge fee on all tickets for all events and the Sens are going to have to do the same.
Ottawa just isn't a happening city, it's basically a small government town, not really big enough or busy enough for a major league sports team and that's the truth.
Well i also don’t live in Ottawa so how the hell am i gonna buy a ticket ???
16,500 average attendance this year. Ok, let's not forget the building was built way too big for the market to begin with at18,500 seats. Pittsburgh has 18,400.
They have to move to downtown Ottawa
Have you seen where their arena is located? Also the most inconvenient location in the league.
Sid: He SAID what any other owner would THINK. Big difference. Coming at the worst, most inappropriate possible time, it's not honesty, it's stupidity.
Other "important numbers": Between 05-06 and 08-09, the Sens were in the top 7 in attendance and filled over 100% capacity most of those years. 09-10 to 10-11? 98% and 99% capacity. They were in the top 6 the next two years at 101% capacity! The numbers then fell to 95% over the next few years as the on-ice product became less hopeful-that is ALSO cause and effect. You're defending Melnyk essentially saying to the fans, "What have you done for me lately?" Its BS.
Aw, the commute sucks, you poor bastards. If only Ottawa had an easy and quick commute like Chicago, New York, LA, Dallas, Detroit, Tampa, Washington, Philly, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Boston blah blah blah. Melnyk is annoying, but when you're right, you're right.
I don’t get why people were upset with his comments , agreed with everything he said
People are upset. If you go onto any Senator forum, they want Melnyk to be gone.
The fans are upset because they're in love with the team and they're being told their support may not be enough. If 16,000 people are in love with something, and someone comes by and says "sorry, that's not enough to continue this thing," you're going to have 16,000 pissed off people.
its 13k not 16k. I think 16k would be great.
2:20 - #22 Senators, 16,448. Looks like there's hope for you now! haha
If he’s really hurting. Open up those books and let’s see. I call BS
The dad joke guy he's bot hurting his team is hurting
He doesnt need to. Hes the owner. Support him or watch it move. Stop bitching and suck it up princess
The dad joke guy just because he's rich doesn't mean he's okay with loosing money. He got rich for that exact reason. Not losing money.
Ryan Armitage hey sunshine, I don’t have to be a fan of the team to recognize bs.
Joey oh yes, rich people NEVER lie either
"spending 11th cap" YEAH THE LAST 2 years. But before that was BOTTOM TEN. AGAIN it was the Bobby Ryan and Phaneuf contracts that pushed him and they ONLY ACQUIRED DION if they were allowed to move out Cowen Greening and Michaleks contract OTHERWISE theyd never added Dion to their blueline and you can FORGET that deep run with only one good defense pairing. We are talking about the 2018 year where they went from one goal away to returning with a roster missing their #2 dman, 2Lw, and 2 third liners FROM THE PLAYOFF TEAM because Eugene went cheap again in the offseason.
I am in Orléans. Sorry but driving to see the Habs is almost closer!! L'aréna devrait être au centre-ville.
I am a fan of Ottawa and it’s not offensive it’s the truth
One reason being that so many fans don't show up to the games are because as of now the Sens are a joke, I am a fan of them and while the game against the Blue Jackets was really damn good, they are pretty much at the 2nd bottom of the roster right now. Loss after loss do you really think the fans will show up? Yeah yeah people will say "To support the team" while that is true even the support to the team doesn't seem to help at all. Can't believe this guy is like "Oh we will go somewhere else if not a lot of people show up" this guy....how about he looks at WHY not so many people show up..
Sayeth the talking heads at the Maple Leafs Sports Network.
Just sell the team dammit!!! Nothing good will happen until its out of Melnyk's hands.
Your problem is that area location plain and simple. Games are a pain to get to that is the main reason
Perhaps those 15k fans that go would just like him to seem a little less ready to bale. 15k is enough people to "cause an uproar"
I was really upset with his comments on not selling the team, and even relocating the team. Eugene Melnyk should just sell, take the money and go back to the Barbados where Sens fans won't hear from him or see him again. This is a pro sports owner against an entire city. This isn't the first time, an franchise owner went up against an entire city.
15000 a nt pay the players & owner.. They are 1000- 2000 fans short of owner making a bonanza. You can't complain to the fans that are driving miles & that are paying.
Its a small city. They need to build an arena closer to town!!!!!#
Move downtown Ottawa
Then make the tickets 20$ or just shut up Melnyk, we have Rogers.
Ottawa is not exactly a great sports city. They didn't have the NHL for 60 years and they had two CFL teams fold in a 10 year period including the Rough Riders that were 120 years old.
I hope they don't move and get a new arena but the fans need to show up to the games.
#melnykout
You buy the team then
You do realize he owns the team
its the rink 100%
i'm a leafs fan and i have the cash to go to a leafs game but i will never! ever! pay the ridiculous hight prices for a home game. no thanks.
Was it crazy what he said? No. It's simple business strategy. It's the CONTEXT!!! The sens are in a horrible slump, and Eugene chose a an outdoor game, where there should be nothing but joy and turned it into a guilt tripping the fans for not voyaging out to Kanata and to go see his team. The guy had his life saved by a dedicated fan who gave his kidney for Eugene, and he threatens to take the team away in the middle of our outdoor game? Even though what Eugene said is completely true, he's incredibly stupid for actually saying it.
These guys are tone deaf. Yeah, because how many games you win and how far you go in the playoffs is the sole reason people should buy a ticket.
- ticket prices keep going up
- owner consistently threatens the public and throws the faults at our feet with no introspection on how the team is run
- arena is 30 mins out of town
- parking prices rival seat prices
- concession prices continue to go up
- spending close to the cap for the first time in years doesn’t absolve running the team on the cheap for the past few years
- game ‘experience’ has not changed in 20 years...(no extra marketing, nothing to add value to the experience, compare that with the efforts to present a total experience when going to see a RedBlacks game makes the Sens value proposition low in people’s minds)
r u dum?
Seems like you guys want the arena to be accesible by foot and be free to attend...
-arena is 30 mins out of town
So what? When your market is good people do hours of driving to go to a game
-parking prices rival seat prices.
Cause the ticket price is super low. Its like 32$ for a ticket! like come on its super cheap. At montreal the lowest ticket price is like 100$ and this is against non prenium team...
If this team was in quebec with those prices I can guarantee you that the build would be 100% full every single night.
So why are you blaming this guy for saying you know what if I go there i could do alot more money. It's true and you know it stop acting like its poorly managed.
They prices have to go up because people don't go to the games, what are you trying to say?
30 minutes lol... that's cute. I have 45 minutes of stop and go traffic to get to the Avalanche and I have season tickets... and I think 45 minutes is nothing.
You have no clue what it takes to run a team. 11th in spending 25th in attendance and you want more? Stupid fans are stupid fans. Support the team and the owner or watch it move.
11th highest cap with Phaneuf and bobby ryan making 14 million together
Seattle Senators? No. Houston Senators? No. Quebec Senators? Ding ding ding? Arena, thirsty fan base, excitement about hockey! Looks like we have a new home for the Sens!
Joey Mind you, Quebec getting an expansion team makes no sense given money issues, but relocating a team there makes a LOT of sense. So yeah, I'd like to see the Sens stay, but if they move, it should be to Quebec City.
The 32nd expansion team should go to Seattle, in my opinion.
The only reason SENS cant fill seats on a regular basis are many fold but the main reason still to many legacy leaf and habs fans in OTTAWA will take at least another generation to build up the SENS base ...add to that another 500 k in population growth and long term u have a viable buz
Rome was not built in a day...and neither small town OTTAWA in but cold winters..lol
Sid needs to do some research before he says dumb stuff on his show
Lax99 what’s so dumb about what he said. I think it’s dumb to be struggling with attendance during the third round of the playoffs
Orace B agreed
yeah there is something wrong with that picture and it's you melnyk #melnykout
this video pretreys just how dumb tim and sid actually are completely oblivious.
If people don't think the team is committed to the fans than they probably won't feel as strongly about going to the game. Why doesn't this billionaire use his head a little more. It's just not right to alienate the people who actually do support you.
Ottawa is so bored?
Fans trying to dictate business. This is sadly why the NHL has zero interest in expanding to Canadian markets. Or one of the reasons. Moving to downtown Ottawa would be a good move but as we should all know by now Billionaire owners don't like to look weak. I expect this to resolve in 2 years.
The owner have as much right to decide what is good for his business as the customers have the right to decide if the product/service is worth it. If and when you lose your team, don't cry about it. I'd miss watching the Leafs having a second home but I certainly won't cry about it.
Professional hockey isn't a good enough service? So you have to drive a bit to see it. I'm from MN and the Wild play over an hour away from me but that would never stop me or the thousands of other fans from going to a game. Even with the insane ticket and concession costs.
The comments were poorly timed and ignores the fans that do go out of thier way to go to the game and support the team and melnyk was very unappreciative to the 20000 people that showed up in the freezing cold to watch that outdoor game
They're selling 16,448 tickets a game, 93.3% capacity. I don't see what the problem is. The team is playing like crap. Sounds like the owner is just playing the relocation card to get a new arena, just like Calgary. I don't know how many seats you expect to fill when you're team is playing like crap but still getting 93.3% attendance seems pretty damn good to me. Buncha BS propaganda for sure this is.
Move to Hamilton!!!!!!!!!!!!
Melnyk you don't blame your fans like that, that is really rude and unforgivable, seriously, learn to respect your fans. Melnyk out, no respect at all
Have these guys ever played hockey before?
Hey Melnyk. Maybe you shouldn't charge so much to park, for food, or other stuff.
Also maybe not make the arena in a nightmare suburb.
Nightmare AJ Bushey Someone's Yandere his mind is telling him that they have money issues and that they should charge more
Lebby 1074 he's gonna cause the Sens to become bankrupt
Nightmare AJ Bushey Someone's Yandere not before he relocates them
Grapes wants the Nordiques sooooo bad lol
Wish they'd move the Sens to Atlanta. Flames 3.0 j/k
Sens fans are a joke spending money on Billboards instead of buying playoff tickets and complaining about the parking,
It's not his fault you need to sell tickets it's true man and I live in Ottawa
Mr. Man it's more of a warning, ticket sales didn't always use to be like this despite the location on the arena, if anything more people live around there then say 10 years ago... it's one of those things the city won't realize what hits them when the team leaves. And I'm a Penguins fan, I go pretty much every time they are in town. You can't call it blackmail its business what's he supposed to do keep losing money.
Its him answering a reporter that asked him a question. Thats what it is. Its cry babies like you that want to say he is being a bully when he is saying I dont want to loose millions so can you buy tickets please.
The sens attendance was doing well when the High tech industry was doing well and the population of Kanata was booming. Mid 2000s. Since it crashed the attendance has gone down. He wants to move the team downtown to help everyone get to games and strengthen the team. The city and the people of the city are too stupid to help out. Wish we had loyalty here like Toronto and Montreal have. Their Fans would fight the city to give their team what they needed.
Its not the fact that they say they will move the team, what pisses people off is that he is blaming the fans and not himself at all
Why should he blame himself? Hes the one spending millions every year. Do you want to put your money at risk?
Simple solution... Build a new god damn arena downtown Ottawa not 30-40 mins away like the current one. It's all about location.
CoreyTrevor Smokes lets go that is absolutely nothing, here in Vancouver it takes an hour and a half to get to the arena( living in suburbs) and people gladly will go but only reason they don’t sell out is because tickets are so god damn expensive here in Vancouver but the 30-40 minute drive is a joke to complain about
CoreyTrevor Smokes lets go and you guys have currently( hopefully lose in free agency) the best best defencemen in the world and people still don’t go to watch this future hall of famer and the final 4
Alexander Ortigoza tickets are overpriced and people don't want to drive out of town to watch a game. Move the arena and people will come
CoreyTrevor Smokes lets go let’s just hope Canada doesn’t lose a Canadian franchise
all i see is 2 annoncers sucking up to the owners, cause they want a free jersey or something... lol Talk is cheap! if you want to move the team, move the team. let's see how successful that option is??
Guy is 59 and looks 70. Is he an alkie?
Its because we ottawans... If that's a word... And we love to complain about everything and anything.
Melnyk is correct
Sids kinda a hipercrit aint he
I feel bad for the sens team to be in such a shifty city with lazy cheap ass people. keep blaming the owner and when the team moves I will celebrate with you
melnyk can threaten to move the team all he wants, the fans know he wont find success anywhere else. The issue isnt the fans, its the not building, its not the city. Its eugene melnyk. fans do not go to games because of melnyk. and if he decides he wants to move the team, the same issues will follow him where ever he goes because he himself is the problem.
You are not a very intelligent person if you think the owner is the problem.
Ryan Armitage Ryan Armitage then enlighten me, almighty knower of all. Please shower me with your wisdom that you keep secret and resort to calling others not intelligent.
My apologies for the Not intelligent comment.I am sorry. Its just frustrating that people fail to realize that there is a guy who is trying to run a business and has a lot of money invested in the team. I mean 100s of millions. He is trying to not loose money and make a lil money. He can't seem to get consistent support from the fans(25th in attendance) but 11th in spending. If he was 11th in spending and 11th in attendance I dont think the owner would have any problem with that. But 25th in a league of 31? That kinda shows you that the market might not be as strong as one would hope. Leaving the owner out of it and your personal views of him what can the team do to bring more people to the rink? Dont say the location sucks cuz that was the city's fault for screwing the team in the early 90s. The team wanted to be downtown but the city wouldnt allow it. Dont say turn them into a winning team because you are going to have your ups and downs. Looks at Toronto or the Pens? Dont say ticket prices or concessions prices or parking because they are cheaper or on part with the league average. What do you think the team can realistically do?
People dont want to go to games because melnyk himself shits on those same fans he relies on for money. He acts like the market owes him for keeping the team here, its not like the fans or the executive he fired helped find him a liver for his surgery or anything. Its not like hes blatantly lying about losing money because of the team when forbes estimates he made 10 mill from the sens.
If someone said this year you will make money. Next year you might loose money. Would you get out before you loose money? Think about it.
Everyone in Ottawa complaining about how its a 30 min drive outside town I go to Oilers games that takes at least an hour to get to a 30 min drive is not that bad lmao bunch of babies
I'm from Detroit but please don't sell the franchise
Out of touch, and out of their depth from toronto
Seattle Senator's, sound good?
Get a team in Hamilton Ontario, you would sell every seat if your only concern is selling seats...
He’s not wrong at all
The Seattle Senators are better then my RUclips channel.... #ripottawa
Bring them to Markham or Hamilton
Lots of bumhurt Sens fans here lmao
Top 5 teams I think won't exist in 20 yrs
1 yotes
2 canes
3 panthers
4 ottowa
5 calgary
Canada teams think they're so invincible
Mr. Man you're not making money when you in the bottom 5 in attendance and that same team is in the top half of teams with cap hit. It shouldn't be hard for a Canadian team to make money is the point. Malnyk wouldn't be hinting at leaving if the numbers didn't back up his claims. Where's yours?
Kevin Crabtree Calgary has great attendance. Yes they have had a downfall for attendance in the last couple years because of the arena and how old it is but they do have a pretty good attendance.
Kevin Crabtree wait y calgary? That city loves their team and they sell tickets.
Because they are liberals? Look, we all know you aren't "independent" Senators, OK? Chris Neil was a Trump man, and now that he's gone, Ottawa lost its last player who wasn't a soy boy.
Is your brain made of soy?
They could end up in Quebec City
Oh the lols that would bring. Imagine if he did and they won soon after, similar to how the Nordique franchise won when it moved to Colorado. And then Ottawa wouldn't get another franchise for 20+ years.
It would never happen
Why would the Sens leave Ottawa, where Ottawa has the population of 1.4 million and Quebec City has a population of 750,000
Because the number of fans in the stands (a business consideration) is far more relevant to the owner of the team than the population of the city the team is based in. Quebec City has a higher population than Winnipeg yet Winnipeg was able to replace their "lost" team before Quebec City, because Winnipeg had built a new arena (a business consideration) while Quebec City hadn't (they have since built a new arena which was opened in 2015). I'm not saying he should/shouldn't move the team, but if he does the people in Ottawa better shut up if he does, and don't think your team will be replaced any time soon.
Liam C if you had the choice to put a team in a city of 1.4 million with no real fan base or in a city of 750 000 people with a big fan base what would you choose
lol even canada doesnt like hockey. a team in the capital doesnt even draw. how sad.
BurntRAM you would have to understand ppl in ottawa. They are not like the rest of us. Almost like it is in washington! Haha.
Doesn't draw crowds cause the arena is in a terrible location and prices are too high