Thank so much for your supportive words! Seeing the huge progress this week and getting closer to putting her back in the water it feels like everything is turning to the good (as for now 😁) 😊
I am so happy for you guys that the repair seems to have been successful - and certainly stronger than the original factory build. Fair winds and following seas in the days ahead!
Great to see you guys smile again. Soon it will be smiles on the oceans. I am holding thumbs, that there are no more suprises, to take away those smiles.
Dear Pat, after all, is said and done, and you two sail off to fulfill your dreams, no matter what happens...............you have the best thing in the world, Frankie. You are indeed, a very fortunate man. Very best wishes to you both, and congratulations! Rick, Mobile, AL, USA
Thanks Rick for your words and your wishes! That’s true - I have with Frankie the best person on my side 😊 All the best from us to the USA! For sure we see this as a new start and start to make dreams come true! ⛵️
YAAAAY ! Great to see the keel back on again ! 👍 I think that You are going to know more about "HI" than the original manufacturer ! Your resilience and determination is truly inspiring. Keep it up, sooon You will be SAILING again. Greetings from Cape Town. 🏝️🏞️🏖️⛵⛵
Fantastic fantastic sooooo excited for you guys - congratulations on getting the keel back on successfully. Exciting. Look forward to seeing the next stage completed too. All the best, have a great week. 👍👏🥰
This is so exciting to see the boat and you two all coming together. I know the boats happy it has a smile on the back of it. Get ready for some champaign when the boat makes the big splash.
Good to see the keel back on! Everything looks tight and well sealed. Hope weather is OK for anti-fouling and epoxy under the hull. Liked the 'keel's on' dance. Cheers from Canada.
Your smile and happiness returns ❤❤❤ soon you will be back in the water, return to sailing and the journey around the world will be back on track with a much saver boat. Sometimes bad things have good outcomes
So good to see your happy faces again after so much "Boat disaster" and misery. Together you stood tall and did all needed to pursue your sailing dreams through this .......emotional rollercoaster. My compliments. Good luck with making Hi ready for the sea again (which will be a nice event compared to all previous "activities" :-) Looking forward to see the progress. Very well done!! 💪👍
Thanks so much for taking the time to write this lovely message - we really appreciate your supportive words, this is what keeps us going in challenging moments 🥰 Good to have you on board!
Excellent outcome. The initial static stressing looks good. Now to refit and a dynamic stressing to ensure a full repair. Well done to you and your team.
Go, girl! The journey can continue. You have managed the repair really well. And I get that you are not showing the worst moments in here, but you did not sell the boat, and you are pushing forward.
Bueno, ya empieza a verse la luz al final del túnel. Me hago cargo de los malos momentos que habéis pasado pero desde el principio tenía claro que esto tenía reparación y que los malos momentos quedarían atrás, ahora espero poder compartir con vosotros excitantes aventuras navegando por esos mares. Enhorabuena!.
It's sooooo nice to see you so happy... it's been a tough road but everything will be fine now!! Congratulations 🍾 It's very interesting to see how the individual pieces fit together... great work!
Looks solid as with that bolt set up on the outside of the keel plate rather than the bolts going through the keel. Yard work looked top notch. Grest stuff . Be good to see you splash.
Seems clear that a manufacturing defect went undetected for many years. Glad that it broke in the boatyard and not on the water. Prayers for all three of you. Pat, Frankie and the boat.
Good News!! « Bravo »👏👍 You are going to see the end of this nightmare. Happy to see Frankie smiling and dancing at 8’25. 😁💃🏻. You were so sad three months ago and I didn’t like that. Soon on the wave in your home.Congratulations again from France.
Merci 🙏 we are really happy about the progress the last week and it’s promising for next big steps 😊 that makes us genuinely relieved, happy & positive! Greetings to France!
You should have a look at Ran Sailing. They are doing a fantastic work on the keel grid of their future boat over the last months. I truly hope the worst part of your nightmare is behind you, and that its end is as close as possible. Best wishes for 2025 !
This looks Awesome and only 4 months later from the day. Your last post was about the future plans ahead. Looking at this project you will be able to see and sail to anchor in NY next to the STATUE OF LIBERTY to match your New York Cap Frankie !!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤😊😊😊😊.
I did not know that vacuum infusion can be made inside a structure - but they proved it. And in opposite to Aurora this was pretty fast. I'm happy for you.
Looks like it’s all coming together. With the grid glassed in sure it will be even stronger then before. Sad that you both had to go through this process. End result your boat should be way stronger then factory.
Hi have been watching your journey on this repair can i just say it was a painfull experience just watching your misfortune its brilliant to see that you both remained posative throughout and ready to resume your adventure. quick question if im correct its normal practice to set the boat down on its keel for it to take the full weight of the boat ? I know nothing about boats
Thank you for following our journey and your kind words! 😊 & thanks for asking, we are always learning too and there are no silly questions. We learned the boat should be able to handle its weight or at least 80% of it. This varies from boat to boat and every boat is set down different depending on the keel and structure. As are keel is long and thin it’s crucial that the boat is put down extremely evenly. ☺️ and it’s not necessary to place all the load on the keel, this also varies on what kind of stands or cradles there are on the yard to support the hull. 😉
Looking great!! Just curious.. those are not nyloc nuts on new bolts, you might want to add jam nuts as a safety for nuts backing off. Lots of stess's underway.
@@patandfrankie it’s all good they are fitted. You can clearly see them in your video you have a full nut and a lock nut on top of that the lock nut is the thin nut on top. Looks like a solid repair👍
@svlamancha9877 thanks for spotting that details! I hadn’t seen the difference but I’ll have a look at that tomorrow to understand it 🤗 Pat just said he new that we had 2 otherwise he wouldn’t have agreed 😅
I had no doubt that it could be fixed. What was most worrying was that so much bad original workmanship from the boat yard was discovered leading to even more must do repair. Well done. I assume once you are in the water you will stay around land while testing the new construction during different kind of wind and sea conditions? 🎉❤
Thanks for being here with us on this journey and following what’s been going on! We were also shocked.. but things are turning to the positive 😊 We will test sail the boat and the weather here on the Canaries is usually very variable putting us in different scenarios naturally 😅
Congratulations! I'm looking forward to seeing you sail away. Is the weight of the entire boat now supported by the keel or is that what caused the problem in the first place that the boat should not have been resting on the keel? I'm not sure if the boat is designed to stand on the keel.
Not finished but the process now is well known construction of flooring, cabinets, carpentry, plumbing and wiring. So have they preformed a Drop Test? And then back to the water!
There are now dozens of reports and opinions that say that you shouldn't use a short keel for long-distance boats, and certainly not one with a ballast bulb that protrudes forward, a free-standing "saildrive" and free-standing rudder blades without a strong skeg. There are still people who don't take all of this knowledge into account.
It looks like you and the team built a solid boat. Something the Italians did not do initially. Still a lot of work to be done. What are the plans for 2025? Any clearer?
Yes the to do list for the next two weeks is loong! But finally we get to do some other boat jobs 😊 There are too many unknowns still .. but we can’t wait to sail again!
I just cannot wrap my head around bolt on keels. Surely from an engineering stand point an encapsulated keel should be the standard for any ocean rated yacht. Anyways fair winds and following seas 🙏
@@patandfrankie Some say creaking is a normal sound, but I found out on my hunter it isn't. As I said, the Hunter's hull was supported very well, but the deck liner was not attached or made correctly and the traveler was in a bad spot that put a ton of pull on the deck causing a lot of flexing of the deck (they fixed that in later models). It took me years to track down and fix all the creaking noises on it. The big one was where the liner's fiberglass was not trimmed before install and it was rubbing on a bulkhead. All others were caused by not having caulking between the liner and either a bulkhead or the deck in spots. There were 18 defects in the hull liner install. It must have been put together when the supervisors went out for beers on a Friday afternoon. And that is the thing about boats....they are made by people so none are perfect, just like no people are perfect. After my fixes, it needed like 10' waves for anything to creak and those were light creaks. Before my fixes, it would creak in 3' waves very loudly. I had several times when I was offshore where I wondered if the boat was going to finish the leg. That is a bad feeling to have. My Hunter was built strong (if you subtract the keel from mine and my friend's Island Packet which is a blue water boat, they weighed the same for the same size boat) but it had a lot of characteristic of a light cruiser like a light keel, spade rudder, flattish hull forward of the keel and so on. I was ok sailing it all over the world because it was just me, but after getting a family, I felt so much better when I got a true blue water boat. Even though my current boat is 40 years old, it still doesn't creak even in 12-14 foot waves which I believe is a testament to it's build quality. It is a night and day difference between my Hunter and my Whitby. My Hunter was built to handle most offshore conditions but light enough with massive sails to sail in light winds found near or in mainlands. My Whitby is made for offshore where the winds are almost always over 15 knots. It is a night and day difference between my Hunter and my Whitby. The sailing ability and comfort levels of a boat made for offshore is so much different offshore than light cruisers. 95% of light cruisers never see much action so it's ok. I write this not so much for you as I know you two are going cruising on this boat, but for others to understand, there is a difference and it's not just about safety.
I know you don't want to hear this, but... once the repairs are completed you should sell this boat and get an ocean-going cruiser, even if you have to buy one significantly smaller in order to afford it. You saw yourselves: every time you opened up some previously-inaccessible area during the repair, what you found there was horrors. Do you think the other inaccessible areas, where you haven't yet had a chance to look, don't harbor the same? This type of boat is intended for light coastal cruising - a lot of it in charter settings. They are built as disposable boats - meant to be hammered and replaced on a regular basis.They're also intended to be reasonably fast / competitive for simpler amateur racing, with all of the trade-offs that come with that in terms of sturdiness. When you are far out to sea in rough weather you don't want to have to think all night long "will this keel actually hold?" I know it's painful, but do yourselves a favor and make the sensible choice first. I'm a transatlantic skipper who commented on your first video after this problem occurred. Just trying to help avoid another tragedy with this type of boat in the bluewater context. This whole series of events was a wakeup call. Please listen to it.
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion. Having been part of the repair and rebuild we actually habe more trust in our boat now, which has been over the Atlantic twice before. We appreciate that you writing this with good intentions. 🙏
What I don't get about this design is I don't see any length wise (bow to stern) support. On my Hunter it had a full hull liner which supported both sideways and length wise. On my Whitby it has 150 gallon each, 4 built in water and diesel tanks that provide support via it's thick fiberglass vertical walls and baffles inside the tank, then after that long 4x4 stringers fiberglassed to the hull going forward and aft. Unless I am missing something, the area between the stringers on this boat is flexing a lot when beating into waves. Unless there is something I'm not seeing, I definitely would not call this a blue water boat.
@@patandfrankie It's good that you are involved in this so you learn how your boat is put together, but since insurance is paying for it and there is the subject of warranty and responsibility, I'd have them do all the work with me supervising.
Looking on the bright side: you now have a stronger boat than you started out with for crossing three oceans and the insurance covered much of the upgrade. So in a way, you have been lucky!
Yes, there is truth to that and we are definitely happy that we were able to make her stronger 😁 on the other side this still costed us a lot of money and stress .. but we are tending to the positives ☺️
Personally, after watching the repairs, I would not set sail across an ocean on your boat. Did the yard bed the keel with sealer and adhesive, because it didn't appear that they did during the repair, it looks like they just rubbed on some sealer to the outer seam. The handful of undersized bolts and washers holding it on wouldn't provide much confidence in the ability of the keel to take on much stress.
So True!!!! Those were my exact same words used in one of my lengthy dissertations. So with all great respect for another marine surveyor's critical eye for detail. Then you saw how the keel bolt holes were reemed or hogged out longitudinally for an easier refit ? Clearly you see " the Chicken Shit!" Did you also see the 3M 4200 Marine Adhesive Poly Iso Cyanate Poly Urethane bedding? Someone with a plan to drop the keel again wants an easy keel seam to split with that choice of 3M 4200. I build keel seems with 3M 5200 because it is far stronger and tenacious. The Keel flange plate Is significantly larger in surface area in relationship to the Stainless Steel Hull Longitudinal Stringers. More "Chicken Shit" into the "Monkey Works" to quote a previous comment. The keel bolt fender washers were 1/16 inch thick. I have used 1/4 inch plate doublers. Also no doubled Jam Nuts were used. Hope they understand how to activate hardening 3M 4200. Takes humidity to activate and a good week of time or more. Did you see the gunwales marked with factory sling marks? Hope they marked the rib frame stations. On an on the learning hopefully finally sinks in.
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Great to see you getting through what must have been a truly traumatic few months - the repairs look very solid, she's better than new!!
Thank so much for your supportive words! Seeing the huge progress this week and getting closer to putting her back in the water it feels like everything is turning to the good (as for now 😁) 😊
Even new this kind of boat/ Keel is not for bluewater…next container, orca is waiting ! 😉
@@naimavonemden8101 it is rated for oceans. May not be the boat for some. many are crossing oceans with this type of boat.
If you can not make a positive contribution, best to stay quiet !! 🙁@@naimavonemden8101
I am so happy for you guys that the repair seems to have been successful - and certainly stronger than the original factory build. Fair winds and following seas in the days ahead!
Thanks a lot! 🤗😊 also for the good wishes!
Great to see you guys smile again. Soon it will be smiles on the oceans. I am holding thumbs, that there are no more suprises, to take away those smiles.
Thank you so much! 😊 We hope so, too! If so, we will hopefully still be able to do it 😉
@patandfrankie you will be able to do it, perseverence, is a winner👍
@iansillifant4857 🤗🥰
Love the smiles glad it’s coming together keep it up!
Thanks you 🤗😊 we are soo glad too!
Dear Pat, after all, is said and done, and you two sail off to fulfill your dreams, no matter what happens...............you have the best thing in the world, Frankie. You are indeed, a very fortunate man. Very best wishes to you both, and congratulations! Rick, Mobile, AL, USA
Thanks Rick for your words and your wishes! That’s true - I have with Frankie the best person on my side 😊 All the best from us to the USA!
For sure we see this as a new start and start to make dreams come true! ⛵️
YAAAAY ! Great to see the keel back on again ! 👍 I think that You are going to know more about "HI" than the original manufacturer ! Your resilience and determination is truly inspiring. Keep it up, sooon You will be SAILING again. Greetings from Cape Town. 🏝️🏞️🏖️⛵⛵
Thank you!! 😊 We‘ve definitely discovered lots of hidden corners of Hi & we are grateful for that experience.
Sending our love to CT! 🫶
@@patandfrankieThank YOU both ! 🤗⛵🏖️
Fantastic fantastic sooooo excited for you guys - congratulations on getting the keel back on successfully. Exciting. Look forward to seeing the next stage completed too. All the best, have a great week. 👍👏🥰
Thank you for your kind words!! 😊 we are beyond happy too that everything is progressing 😁
You too, all the best!
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This is so exciting to see the boat and you two all coming together. I know the boats happy it has a smile on the back of it. Get ready for some champaign when the boat makes the big splash.
It is! 🙂 We are soo ready to pop the bottle!!! 🍾🤗
Well done guys. You've made it through a very stressful time and can now clearly see the light at the end of the tunnel. All the best for you.
Thanks! Yes, now we can see it shining 😉
So happy to see that you are wall on the way to getting the boat sailing again, beautiful smiles again
Thanks! We are so happy about the progress! 😊
I was "'SUPER' tensioned" and am "SUPER' happy" for you!
Thank you so much 🤗 We are also very happy! 😃
So happy it is coming together.
Yes!!! We are too 😊🙌
Awesome! Looks amazing….and “only” four months. Congratulations, fun video. Already looking forward to next Sunday! Thanks, Andrew
Thank for your support Andrew! There is lots of exciting stuff happening now, it’s so much more fun putting stuff together 😁
Good to see the keel back on! Everything looks tight and well sealed. Hope weather is OK for anti-fouling and epoxy under the hull. Liked the 'keel's on' dance. Cheers from Canada.
Thanks 😊 We hope so, too! All the best to Canada 🇨🇦
After all the low points over the last few months it’s really good to see big smiles and a happy dance. Your new year is off to a good start.
Yes, we are incredibly happy for all the positive things processing currently 😊🤗
I'm very happy for you guys, congratulations.
Thanks-for being with us on this journey 😊
Your smile and happiness returns ❤❤❤ soon you will be back in the water, return to sailing and the journey around the world will be back on track with a much saver boat. Sometimes bad things have good outcomes
Thank you very much for your positive words! 🤗 That’s true 😊
So good to see your happy faces again after so much "Boat disaster" and misery. Together you stood tall and did all needed to pursue your sailing dreams through this .......emotional rollercoaster. My compliments. Good luck with making Hi ready for the sea again (which will be a nice event compared to all previous "activities" :-) Looking forward to see the progress. Very well done!! 💪👍
Thanks so much for taking the time to write this lovely message - we really appreciate your supportive words, this is what keeps us going in challenging moments 🥰
Good to have you on board!
Great progress on the boat .Good to see you both smiling again
Thanks! Yes we are really happy about the progress 😊
Excellent outcome. The initial static stressing looks good. Now to refit and a dynamic stressing to ensure a full repair. Well done to you and your team.
Thank you 😊
Happy to se you overcoming a very difficult situación
Thank you!! We are really about it moving forward 😊
Glad you guys are happy always remember good things are never easy.
Thanks! Yes that’s true 😉
Go, girl! The journey can continue. You have managed the repair really well. And I get that you are not showing the worst moments in here, but you did not sell the boat, and you are pushing forward.
Yess it will 🙌😊 thanks for being here with us!
That looks like a great result considering how it was when it was damaged. Great news 🥳🥳
Yes! Thank you! 😊
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! so pleased for you both to see this progress. ☺
Thank you 😊
Bueno, ya empieza a verse la luz al final del túnel. Me hago cargo de los malos momentos que habéis pasado pero desde el principio tenía claro que esto tenía reparación y que los malos momentos quedarían atrás, ahora espero poder compartir con vosotros excitantes aventuras navegando por esos mares. Enhorabuena!.
Gracias por su apoyo y sus palabras positivas. 😊
It's sooooo nice to see you so happy... it's been a tough road but everything will be fine now!! Congratulations 🍾 It's very interesting to see how the individual pieces fit together... great work!
Thank you! Yes we are definitely happy about this step 🤗
Looks solid as with that bolt set up on the outside of the keel plate rather than the bolts going through the keel. Yard work looked top notch. Grest stuff . Be good to see you splash.
Thanks! Yes, they did a very good job! 👏🏼 Looking forward to the splash day 😊
Fantastic news well done, not long now until you are sailing ⛵️
Thanks! Yes, hopefully 😁⛵️
Very glad for you guys !
Thanks! We are too 😊
Well done!! You hung in there through some really tough times. Fingers crossed for a successful completion of the jig saw puzzle!!
Thanks 😂 now there are some smaller jobs coming until the splash day!
Well done you two for sticking with it lets hope everything goes well much respect
Thanks for your words 🥰 we are crossing our fingers!
Aha great great step forwards! Happy to see it was worth the hard work 😁😁👍👍
Yes it was! Thanks 😊
So happy for both of you!! Hopefully it won't be long before she's floating again!! Stay positive 😊
Thanks! 😊 We hope so ⛵️
Wonderful video. What an emotional journey you have been on. A transatlantic emotional journey.
Thank you 🤗 we are glad you enjoyed watching it! It has been a journey, wow, but it has made us stronger in some sense ☺️
Looking good! Well worth the effort and just part of the adventure!
Thanks!
A huge step forward! Good to see the progress and you both smiling 😊
Thank you 🥰
Seems clear that a manufacturing defect went undetected for many years. Glad that it broke in the boatyard and not on the water. Prayers for all three of you. Pat, Frankie and the boat.
Thanks! That’s definitely a big reason for the damage!
You’re winners through and through! Keep going and you’ll be back afloat soon.
Best wishes.X
Thank you very much for your nice words 🤗
Good job guys 👌
Thanks 😊
Good News!! « Bravo »👏👍 You are going to see the end of this nightmare. Happy to see Frankie smiling and dancing at 8’25. 😁💃🏻. You were so sad three months ago and I didn’t like that. Soon on the wave in your home.Congratulations again from France.
Merci 🙏 we are really happy about the progress the last week and it’s promising for next big steps 😊 that makes us genuinely relieved, happy & positive!
Greetings to France!
Whaoohh…now it is progressing pretty fast … you can start to project yourself back on Sea …super
Yes!!! 😊 Thank you!
omg!!! I saw PAT happy and now we are all much happier too!! 😇😜
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I amVery happy for you guys!! ❤❤❤❤
Thanks that’s kind 😊
@@patandfrankie Are you going to test your sailboat in turbulent waters before crossing the Atlantic???
The plan is definitely to test it before - the conditions we have to see.
Nice to see everything aligning for a happy end!
Looking forward to follow your journey across the atlantic.
Greetings from Austria ;)
Thanks! We are happy to have you on board for whats to come 🤗
Great video and good to see you smiling!
Thank you 🥰
Nicely done. Happy new Boat moves!
Thank you very much 🤩
You should have a look at Ran Sailing. They are doing a fantastic work on the keel grid of their future boat over the last months.
I truly hope the worst part of your nightmare is behind you, and that its end is as close as possible. Best wishes for 2025 !
We know them and sometimes we watch them 😊 Thanks for the tip and your wishes! We hope that too and we think positive 😃
Oh Happy New Year to you both May God bless you both in the name of Jesus Christ Amen❤
Happy new year to you too! 🤗
This looks Awesome and only 4 months later from the day. Your last post was about the future plans ahead. Looking at this project you will be able to see and sail to anchor in NY next to the STATUE OF LIBERTY to match your New York Cap Frankie !!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤😊😊😊😊.
We’ve made such bug steps the last week, so happy about that 😊
NY is one of my favorite cities and I’d live to do that one day 😁
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Good job!
Thanks! 😊 yes the team has done an awesome job
looks great
It does! 😃
I did not know that vacuum infusion can be made inside a structure - but they proved it.
And in opposite to Aurora this was pretty fast.
I'm happy for you.
Thank you! 😊 They did their best!
Hi to Hi
very interesting video. Then there isn't much left until the Hi is back in the water.
Yess!!! 🙌
Looks like it’s all coming together. With the grid glassed in sure it will be even stronger then before. Sad that you both had to go through this process. End result your boat should be way stronger then factory.
Thank you! We think also she’s much stronger now. And the process was tough for us but the good thing is that we learned a lot about boats 😃
Happy for you❤
Thank you ❤️
Looks like you are going to make it across this year.
We’ll see .. we don’t have exact plans yet but still the dream of crossing 😊
I’m glad I was wrong about that little work would take place during the holiday period.
We are also glad 😁
Congrats - Looks better than new! Maybe a list of your insurance company, surveyer, specialists etc. to recommend would be interesting.
Thanks! Once the boat is completely done we can talk about that 😊
… and the support / non-existing support by Grand Soleil / cantiere del Pardo would be especially interesting…🧐
Hi have been watching your journey on this repair can i just say it was a painfull experience just watching your misfortune its brilliant to see that you both remained posative throughout and ready to resume your adventure. quick question if im correct its normal practice to set the boat down on its keel for it to take the full weight of the boat ? I know nothing about boats
Thank you for following our journey and your kind words! 😊
& thanks for asking, we are always learning too and there are no silly questions. We learned the boat should be able to handle its weight or at least 80% of it. This varies from boat to boat and every boat is set down different depending on the keel and structure. As are keel is long and thin it’s crucial that the boat is put down extremely evenly. ☺️ and it’s not necessary to place all the load on the keel, this also varies on what kind of stands or cradles there are on the yard to support the hull. 😉
@@patandfrankie Thank you 👍
happy happy happy...
Yes!!! 🙌
Congratulations
Thank you!! 🤗
Awesome. Is the insurance company happy with the repairs and still going to insure the boat?
Great job
We have no final result yet but they said that they are still going to insure the boat.
Thanks!
Looking great!! Just curious.. those are not nyloc nuts on new bolts, you might want to add jam nuts as a safety for nuts backing off. Lots of stess's underway.
Thanks for that input! 😊 we’ve never heard about that on top of keel bolts, have you seen/done that in practice?
Lo de las contratuercas no es ni guna tontería, ya que estáis yo no dudaría en ponerlas, es una garantía que ahora cuesta muy poco.
Gracias!
@@patandfrankie it’s all good they are fitted. You can clearly see them in your video you have a full nut and a lock nut on top of that the lock nut is the thin nut on top. Looks like a solid repair👍
@svlamancha9877 thanks for spotting that details! I hadn’t seen the difference but I’ll have a look at that tomorrow to understand it 🤗
Pat just said he new that we had 2 otherwise he wouldn’t have agreed 😅
I had no doubt that it could be fixed. What was most worrying was that so much bad original workmanship from the boat yard was discovered leading to even more must do repair. Well done. I assume once you are in the water you will stay around land while testing the new construction during different kind of wind and sea conditions? 🎉❤
Thanks for being here with us on this journey and following what’s been going on! We were also shocked.. but things are turning to the positive 😊
We will test sail the boat and the weather here on the Canaries is usually very variable putting us in different scenarios naturally 😅
@ Wonderful.
wow Wow WOW
Thanks 😊
👍🙂 yo por suerte estoy un poco más informado… 🙃🙂
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What are the torque values for the keel bolts?
The recommendation is 439nm if you don’t use lubricant or 370nm with lubricant.
Congratulations! I'm looking forward to seeing you sail away. Is the weight of the entire boat now supported by the keel or is that what caused the problem in the first place that the boat should not have been resting on the keel? I'm not sure if the boat is designed to stand on the keel.
Thanks for being on this journey with us! 😊
No the boat is only partially resting on the keel, not with the entire weight.
Told you way back don’t panic. Well done. Back in the water next week? 10:01
Thank you for supporting us 🤗 not yet next week but the week after 😊
Not finished but the process now is well known construction of flooring, cabinets, carpentry, plumbing and wiring. So have they preformed a Drop Test? And then back to the water!
Yes finally the water is in sight, after a long list of small to dos 😊
There are now dozens of reports and opinions that say that you shouldn't use a short keel for long-distance boats, and certainly not one with a ballast bulb that protrudes forward, a free-standing "saildrive" and free-standing rudder blades without a strong skeg. There are still people who don't take all of this knowledge into account.
Please send us the link to the reports, we’d love to read into that. 😊
It looks like you and the team built a solid boat. Something the Italians did not do initially. Still a lot of work to be done. What are the plans for 2025? Any clearer?
Yes the to do list for the next two weeks is loong! But finally we get to do some other boat jobs 😊
There are too many unknowns still .. but we can’t wait to sail again!
Glad your rpeiar turned out! it looks like a nice "Cruising boat" with a really bad keel design! For cruising that is!
Thanks!
I just cannot wrap my head around bolt on keels. Surely from an engineering stand point an encapsulated keel should be the standard for any ocean rated yacht. Anyways fair winds and following seas 🙏
Thanks for sharing your opinion and your wishes!
Looks like they pulled the bolts after initial install?
They did it in different steps!
When you sail in 5 feet waves, does this boat creak before the repair?
No, just regular sounds 🙂
@@patandfrankie Some say creaking is a normal sound, but I found out on my hunter it isn't. As I said, the Hunter's hull was supported very well, but the deck liner was not attached or made correctly and the traveler was in a bad spot that put a ton of pull on the deck causing a lot of flexing of the deck (they fixed that in later models). It took me years to track down and fix all the creaking noises on it. The big one was where the liner's fiberglass was not trimmed before install and it was rubbing on a bulkhead. All others were caused by not having caulking between the liner and either a bulkhead or the deck in spots. There were 18 defects in the hull liner install. It must have been put together when the supervisors went out for beers on a Friday afternoon. And that is the thing about boats....they are made by people so none are perfect, just like no people are perfect.
After my fixes, it needed like 10' waves for anything to creak and those were light creaks. Before my fixes, it would creak in 3' waves very loudly. I had several times when I was offshore where I wondered if the boat was going to finish the leg. That is a bad feeling to have.
My Hunter was built strong (if you subtract the keel from mine and my friend's Island Packet which is a blue water boat, they weighed the same for the same size boat) but it had a lot of characteristic of a light cruiser like a light keel, spade rudder, flattish hull forward of the keel and so on.
I was ok sailing it all over the world because it was just me, but after getting a family, I felt so much better when I got a true blue water boat. Even though my current boat is 40 years old, it still doesn't creak even in 12-14 foot waves which I believe is a testament to it's build quality. It is a night and day difference between my Hunter and my Whitby.
My Hunter was built to handle most offshore conditions but light enough with massive sails to sail in light winds found near or in mainlands. My Whitby is made for offshore where the winds are almost always over 15 knots.
It is a night and day difference between my Hunter and my Whitby. The sailing ability and comfort levels of a boat made for offshore is so much different offshore than light cruisers.
95% of light cruisers never see much action so it's ok. I write this not so much for you as I know you two are going cruising on this boat, but for others to understand, there is a difference and it's not just about safety.
I know you don't want to hear this, but... once the repairs are completed you should sell this boat and get an ocean-going cruiser, even if you have to buy one significantly smaller in order to afford it. You saw yourselves: every time you opened up some previously-inaccessible area during the repair, what you found there was horrors. Do you think the other inaccessible areas, where you haven't yet had a chance to look, don't harbor the same? This type of boat is intended for light coastal cruising - a lot of it in charter settings. They are built as disposable boats - meant to be hammered and replaced on a regular basis.They're also intended to be reasonably fast / competitive for simpler amateur racing, with all of the trade-offs that come with that in terms of sturdiness. When you are far out to sea in rough weather you don't want to have to think all night long "will this keel actually hold?" I know it's painful, but do yourselves a favor and make the sensible choice first. I'm a transatlantic skipper who commented on your first video after this problem occurred. Just trying to help avoid another tragedy with this type of boat in the bluewater context. This whole series of events was a wakeup call. Please listen to it.
Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion. Having been part of the repair and rebuild we actually habe more trust in our boat now, which has been over the Atlantic twice before.
We appreciate that you writing this with good intentions. 🙏
Are you located in the south of Tenerife ? All the best !
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No we are in the North
What I don't get about this design is I don't see any length wise (bow to stern) support. On my Hunter it had a full hull liner which supported both sideways and length wise. On my Whitby it has 150 gallon each, 4 built in water and diesel tanks that provide support via it's thick fiberglass vertical walls and baffles inside the tank, then after that long 4x4 stringers fiberglassed to the hull going forward and aft. Unless I am missing something, the area between the stringers on this boat is flexing a lot when beating into waves. Unless there is something I'm not seeing, I definitely would not call this a blue water boat.
We have a SS support that goes from front of the mast to about the galley midship that supports length wise.
@@patandfrankie Was that removed for the repair?
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so you have to put the cabin back together or they will do it?
That will be the next step and we’ll do it together but the floor will be made by them.
@@patandfrankie It's good that you are involved in this so you learn how your boat is put together, but since insurance is paying for it and there is the subject of warranty and responsibility, I'd have them do all the work with me supervising.
That’s would we’ll do ☺️
Looking on the bright side: you now have a stronger boat than you started out with for crossing three oceans and the insurance covered much of the upgrade. So in a way, you have been lucky!
Yes, there is truth to that and we are definitely happy that we were able to make her stronger 😁 on the other side this still costed us a lot of money and stress .. but we are tending to the positives ☺️
@@patandfrankie and a pity the the whole yacht industry cuts corners with boat strength
@janecme That’s true .. like lots of industries with quality
I would have caulked higher up threads
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Personally, after watching the repairs, I would not set sail across an ocean on your boat. Did the yard bed the keel with sealer and adhesive, because it didn't appear that they did during the repair, it looks like they just rubbed on some sealer to the outer seam. The handful of undersized bolts and washers holding it on wouldn't provide much confidence in the ability of the keel to take on much stress.
They did! Sorry if this wasn’t clear in the video. ☺️
The bolts were calculated by an engineer and we even upgraded them! 😁
Will she be able to stand on her keel?
We will avoid setting all the weight on the keel as this keel form is very delicate.
You cannot make chicken salad out of chicken shit !!
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So True!!!! Those were my exact same words used in one of my lengthy dissertations. So with all great respect for another marine surveyor's critical eye for detail. Then you saw how the keel bolt holes were reemed or hogged out longitudinally for an easier refit ? Clearly you see " the Chicken Shit!" Did you also see the 3M 4200 Marine Adhesive Poly Iso Cyanate Poly Urethane bedding? Someone with a plan to drop the keel again wants an easy keel seam to split with that choice of 3M 4200. I build keel seems with 3M 5200 because it is far stronger and tenacious. The Keel flange plate Is significantly larger in surface area in relationship to the Stainless Steel Hull Longitudinal Stringers. More "Chicken Shit" into the "Monkey Works" to quote a previous comment. The keel bolt fender washers were 1/16 inch thick. I have used 1/4 inch plate doublers. Also no doubled Jam Nuts were used. Hope they understand how to activate hardening 3M 4200. Takes humidity to activate and a good week of time or more. Did you see the gunwales marked with factory sling marks? Hope they marked the rib frame stations. On an on the learning hopefully finally sinks in.
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