This is a great breakdown. I have oftren wondered such questions. I have switched over to Penn reals from my previous Shimano days as I find that for the price point, in general, the Penns are smoother, have killer decals and take a good deal of abuse. Reels purchased so far are the Wrath (x 2 5000) and the Pursuit IV (3000). No complaints so far.
for decades i was a shakespeare guy but this year i switched over to alot of PENN PURSUIT4 reels. i have 4000, 6000 and 8000 reels all spooled with braid. the 4000 has 30lb braid while the 6000 and 8000 have 80lb braid. the warfare 30lwlclh has 50lb braid. really been loving the PENN reels
Love the review and the info. And it all depends on how often you go fishing. If it's casual, like once per month, then wrath will do. If you go often, few days every week, then invest a bit more for a slammer. Also, a used slammer can cost as a new wrath but due to durability it just might outlast the new wrath. :)
I only use serious tackle and wouldn't even consider a wrath. I use stuff like authority, saltigas and stellas, van staals and avets and accurates. But fish every day, and only for big fish. I'm a trophy striper hunter
Don't worry about it, for the money the wrath is still fine and you'll get plenty of fish on it as long as you rinse with freshwater after every trip and don't abuse it. I have 2 wraths in 8000 size that I've used on the Texas coast surf fishing and caught plenty of oversize reds, a couple of small sharks and more stingrays than I like to think about.
For somebody that can afford the extra money absolutely otherwise you can't go wrong with the wrath I own a wrath and I like it a lot among other reels thanks great video
I just went on eBay and if you search "penn carbon drag washers WRATH" you can purchase carbon replacements for $8.99. Thanks for the idea, I just ordered a set and that makes for a good future video...super charging the Wrath..
hey I was wondering if you ever seen the zebco bite alert spinning reel that lights up and makes sound? it's a catfish combo but I really wanna know if it's a gimmick or legit as a reel
At the price point and if I know Zebco, they are the kings of cheap fishing reels and quirky gimmicks. They have legit reels and good line-ups like the Zebco 33 Platinum. But they throw the kitchen sink at all consumers and they see what sticks. A cheap Penn or Shimano Combo would probably serve you much better. Those two companies are the kings of spinning reels. However, if this bite-alert reel is for a kid, it might be the best option to keep them engaged and teach them how to fish. I doubt the battery and reel will live through too many fishing seasons though. Thanks for stopping by!
Dude, unfortunately my ol lady DOES know lol. Now i wish i never got her into going on fishing trips and shopping for gear though it is nice that we share that commin interest. I like that you fish your slammer on a gx2. Usually when i buy a new bad ass reel ive already shucked out enough money that I shouldnt get a carnage, star, phoenix black diamond, g loomis etc. but then a month and a half later i end up doing it anyway. ending up with all these extra ugly stik's laying around. Out of the lower budget penn reels, i enjoy the pursuit iii (havent had a 4 yet) for the simple fact that they have carbon fiber drag washers already installed. Ive read some eyebrow raising reviews that just turned me off to ever buying a wrath but still solid none the less. The wrath and the pursuit 3 series and a above are great gifts for the kids to treat in a way that kids just treat things. CARELESS lol while still being able to land a fish that would that make lifetime memories.
Haha well at least she's interested in fishing. My wife only cares about being on a boat, but she does take note of every new reel I show up with. Dude I'm weird, I buy expensive reels and run cheap rods....I guess in about 9 years I've only had one spinning rod break (I break fly fishing rods like every other year). The Pursuit's are nice reels. I smoked a Gen 1 down in Florida with a big Jack Crevalle, the drag got vaporized. I don't think they had carbon at the time. The Wrath is a great burner reel for people who aren't Fishing zealots. I just did a charter in New Orleans and the guide had one Wrath amongst all his Battle 3s. The Wrath looked like it had been through hell, it probably had another 6 months left in it. Anyway, thanks for stopping by and sharing your insights.
Great Olympia beer product placement. I don't think it's made in Tumwater any longer. Look at all the companies owned by Pure Fishing Inc. A lot of the companies that compete against each other are all part of the parent company, or as I like to think The Umbrella Corporation...
I've spent my entire life fishing the 10 dollar bullshetts from Walmart and caught many fish. But just like a car you pay for what you can afford. I finally decided to cave into buying a good set of reels and rods and its a night and day difference in finesse fishing
Hi Guy's help req'd... one of those req'd features google won't find.... I am fishing for Sea Bass from a high cliff 100 meters (110 yards) with no access down... I gotta reel them all the way up, dead weight n all. I know most reels will reel up the fish but here's the deal... when reeling in water and reeling a dead weight (2- 2.5kg - 4lb)... that's a whole different league of power, smoothness and build quality. Kinda the ultimate test of a reel quality you could say. I am hoping some of you Guy's know which reels stand out for this? An open faced reel weighing around 485-500grams (1pound or just over) to match my rod and allow other uses. Thank You Guy's in advance.
Hi Sir I prefer Penn VI 8500 Live Liner Reel what my son Regan has & it has 40 pound 4 Lvever Live Liner Settings & not only that it has the most SAFEST FEATURE ON THESE PENN REELS & I got the Penn VI 6500 Live Liner Reel & has 30 pound of drag & I got this Penn VI Live Liner Fishing Reel for a Christmas Present from my daughter Melinda & my son in law Robert & it has the same SAFETY FEATURE on this Penn VI Live Liner as well as the 4 Lever Live Liner Settings as well & both of these are VERY TOP QUALITY SAFEST REELS ON TODAY'S MARKET THANKS PENN DESIGNING & MAKING THESE 2 SAFEST REELS ON TODAY'S MARKET & WHEN YOU FLICK THE BAIL ARM OVER TO OPEN POSITION BIG CAST ON THE SURF CASTING ROD & YOU DO THE BIG CAST & IF THE HANDLE ON SHOULD TURN WHILE YOU ARE HALF WAY INTO THE CAST YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY IF THE HANDLE WILL TURN ON THE REEL THE BAIL ARM WILL NOT SLAM OVER TO CLOSED POSITION ON THE REEL AS THE BAIL ARM WILL STAY IN OPEN POSITION ALL THE WAY INTO THE CAST & EVEN YOU HAPPEN TO DO THE PENDULUM CAST THE BAIL ARM WILL STAY OPEN ALL THE TIME & ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THE BIG CAST & ALL YOU DO IS MANUALLY FLICK THE BAIL ARM OVER TO CLOSED POSITION THIS THE SAFETY FEATURE ON THESE 2 PENN REELS & THESE 2 ARE SMOOTH RUNNING REELS AS WELL & YOU HAVE TO HAND IT TO PENN DESIGNING THESE SAFETY FEATURES ON THESE 2 REELS & years ago before I brought a 20 foot fiberglass cabin with a a Yamaha f150 hp four stroke outboard motor & goes really well on the water to & as I say years ago before I got this boat I did a lot of Surf Casting with a powerful strong 12 foot Kilwell Surf Casting Rod & I always had a 50 pound shock leader & a 5 OZ sinker & had 2 7/0 hooks with big bait & I would 15 to 20 pound main line & now & then I was able to cast my line out but other times I wasn't so lucky as pull through with the Rod & sometimes the handle on the fair size Okuma egg beater reel would turn while I'm half way into the cast & slam down the bail arm & I always flick the bail arm over to open position but now & then the handle will turn on me & slamming the bail arm over into closed position & bang goes my line & my sinker would go FLYING THROUGH THE AIR AT HIGH SPEED & MY SHOCK LEADER. THE 2 7/0 HOOKS & BIG BAIT & HAS HAPPEN A FEW TIMES TO & ONE PARTICULAR TIME I WENT TO ANOTHER FISHING SPOT & THERE WERE PEOPLE FURTHER UP AWAY FROM ME & I WAS FISHING FOR NO PROBLEM ALL UNTIL I DECIDED TO DO THE PENDULUM CAST & I HAD FLICKED THE BAIL ARM OVER TO OPEN POSITION & GOT THE 5 OZ SINKER TO THE RIGHT SPOT TO THE ROD & SWUNG OUT THE SINKER & ONCE IT THE SINK TO RIGHT HEIGHT TO DO THE CAST THE BLOODY HANDLE HAD TURNED ON ME & THE BAIL ARM SLAMMED OVER PING WENT THE LINE & THE 5 OZ SINKER FLEW THROUGH AIR AT GREAT SPEED & GOING ALONG THE BEACH TOWARDS THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE BEACH & THE 5OZ SINKER NEARLY HIT SOMEONE & IT WAS A CLOSE CALL NOT GOOD & SHOCKED ME BIG TIME & I WENT UP THAT PERSON THAT 5 0Z SINKER NEAR HIT & I APOLOGIZE TO THAT PERSON & EXPLAINED TO THAT PERSON WHAT HAD HAPPENED & I WENT BACK TO SPOT WHERE I HAD BEEN FISHING & PACKED UP ALL MY GEAR & WENT HOME & IF I HAD THIS PENN VI 6500 LIVE LINER FISHING REEL YEARS AGO NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED & IM HAPPY THE I'VE GOT A NEW PENN VI 6500 LIVE LINER REEL & I CAST MY LINE OFF THE BOAT I WILL NEVER EVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IF THE HANDLE SHOULD TURN ON ME WHILE CASTING THEINE OUT I WILL NEVER EVER HAVE A BREAK OFF ON MY LINE EVER AGAIN THANKS TO PENN MAKING 2 EXCELLENT SAFETY FEATURE REELS GOOD ON YOU PENN EXCELLENT DESIGN ON THESE PENN LIVE LINER FISHING REELS Kind Regards Peter & Sir so what do think about these Excellent Quality Reels Sir
my wife has no idea what fishing gear is worth.... I left for a while to take care of my Mother out of state and while I was gone she gave away all the gear I'd spent years collecting..... :( She gave it away with no idea it was over $1000.00 worth of gear.
I have top tier reels and they are so expensive, i am very careful not to get even the tiniest scratch, or getting sand or water on it. With the reels on the same level as the Penn Wrath, you don't worry about being careful, because it's cheap and your wallet won't take a big hit. I take great care with my gear, so the Penn Wrath in my hands will last decades or more. Just look at all the classic old surf reels, no ball bearings, but still going strong. The big difference is their owners. They get cleaned and lubed, so they will last fr generations.
This is a great breakdown. I have oftren wondered such questions.
I have switched over to Penn reals from my previous Shimano days as I find that for the price point, in general, the Penns are smoother, have killer decals and take a good deal of abuse.
Reels purchased so far are the Wrath (x 2 5000) and the Pursuit IV (3000). No complaints so far.
I've been watching your vids, mate, and I like your sense of humour! The bit with the marlin cracked me up! Thanks for the entertainment!
Glad to hear and thanks for stopping by!
for decades i was a shakespeare guy but this year i switched over to alot of PENN PURSUIT4 reels. i have 4000, 6000 and 8000 reels all spooled with braid. the 4000 has 30lb braid while the 6000 and 8000 have 80lb braid. the warfare 30lwlclh has 50lb braid. really been loving the PENN reels
Penn Pursuit have come a long way in the past decade…feature rich and durable. Good luck out there!
Love the review and the info.
And it all depends on how often you go fishing. If it's casual, like once per month, then wrath will do. If you go often, few days every week, then invest a bit more for a slammer.
Also, a used slammer can cost as a new wrath but due to durability it just might outlast the new wrath. :)
I only use serious tackle and wouldn't even consider a wrath. I use stuff like authority, saltigas and stellas, van staals and avets and accurates. But fish every day, and only for big fish. I'm a trophy striper hunter
Thanks for the video and clarification. It was interesting. Now it's not too sad that I ordered PENN WRATH, I didn't think it had a plastic case.
Thanks for sharing!
Don't worry about it, for the money the wrath is still fine and you'll get plenty of fish on it as long as you rinse with freshwater after every trip and don't abuse it. I have 2 wraths in 8000 size that I've used on the Texas coast surf fishing and caught plenty of oversize reds, a couple of small sharks and more stingrays than I like to think about.
For somebody that can afford the extra money absolutely otherwise you can't go wrong with the wrath I own a wrath and I like it a lot among other reels thanks great video
Love your reviews man, Penn is my go to for spinning reels so it's helpful getting your opinion on a new line from them
Glad you like them!
Can you swap out the drag washers after you toast the first set in the wrath? ALSO... Do you happen to sing country on the side?
I just went on eBay and if you search "penn carbon drag washers WRATH" you can purchase carbon replacements for $8.99. Thanks for the idea, I just ordered a set and that makes for a good future video...super charging the Wrath..
hey I was wondering if you ever seen the zebco bite alert spinning reel that lights up and makes sound? it's a catfish combo but I really wanna know if it's a gimmick or legit as a reel
At the price point and if I know Zebco, they are the kings of cheap fishing reels and quirky gimmicks. They have legit reels and good line-ups like the Zebco 33 Platinum. But they throw the kitchen sink at all consumers and they see what sticks. A cheap Penn or Shimano Combo would probably serve you much better. Those two companies are the kings of spinning reels. However, if this bite-alert reel is for a kid, it might be the best option to keep them engaged and teach them how to fish. I doubt the battery and reel will live through too many fishing seasons though.
Thanks for stopping by!
I bought the wrath. I changed the drag to carbon fiber and bushings to sealed bearings. That made it a little nicer
Great video well explained 👍
Hey how about you look into the Kastking Brutus Spincast reel. Right now it's on sale on Amazon for $29.99.
Would like to see you do a review on it
Folks keep mentioning that reel, I'm definitely interested in checking it out.
Dude, unfortunately my ol lady DOES know lol. Now i wish i never got her into going on fishing trips and shopping for gear though it is nice that we share that commin interest. I like that you fish your slammer on a gx2. Usually when i buy a new bad ass reel ive already shucked out enough money that I shouldnt get a carnage, star, phoenix black diamond, g loomis etc. but then a month and a half later i end up doing it anyway. ending up with all these extra ugly stik's laying around. Out of the lower budget penn reels, i enjoy the pursuit iii (havent had a 4 yet) for the simple fact that they have carbon fiber drag washers already installed. Ive read some eyebrow raising reviews that just turned me off to ever buying a wrath but still solid none the less. The wrath and the pursuit 3 series and a above are great gifts for the kids to treat in a way that kids just treat things. CARELESS lol while still being able to land a fish that would that make lifetime memories.
Haha well at least she's interested in fishing. My wife only cares about being on a boat, but she does take note of every new reel I show up with. Dude I'm weird, I buy expensive reels and run cheap rods....I guess in about 9 years I've only had one spinning rod break (I break fly fishing rods like every other year).
The Pursuit's are nice reels. I smoked a Gen 1 down in Florida with a big Jack Crevalle, the drag got vaporized. I don't think they had carbon at the time. The Wrath is a great burner reel for people who aren't Fishing zealots. I just did a charter in New Orleans and the guide had one Wrath amongst all his Battle 3s. The Wrath looked like it had been through hell, it probably had another 6 months left in it.
Anyway, thanks for stopping by and sharing your insights.
@@CastFromTheHip right on brotha!
Great Olympia beer product placement. I don't think it's made in Tumwater any longer.
Look at all the companies owned by Pure Fishing Inc. A lot of the companies that compete against each other are all part of the parent company, or as I like to think The Umbrella Corporation...
Could I use the slammer for bass and pike
Yea,
I've spent my entire life fishing the 10 dollar bullshetts from Walmart and caught many fish. But just like a car you pay for what you can afford. I finally decided to cave into buying a good set of reels and rods and its a night and day difference in finesse fishing
Very true
Hi Guy's help req'd... one of those req'd features google won't find.... I am fishing for Sea Bass from a high cliff 100 meters (110 yards) with no access down... I gotta reel them all the way up, dead weight n all.
I know most reels will reel up the fish but here's the deal... when reeling in water and reeling a dead weight (2- 2.5kg - 4lb)... that's a whole different league of power, smoothness and build quality. Kinda the ultimate test of a reel quality you could say.
I am hoping some of you Guy's know which reels stand out for this? An open faced reel weighing around 485-500grams (1pound or just over) to match my rod and allow other uses. Thank You Guy's in advance.
Last time I check, even the fish doesn't care how expensive or cheap your setup is. As long there's a hook, you'll catch something
I got the wrath as part of a package deal with a battle 3, and out of the mountain of combos I own the wrath is the bottom of the barrel. Hate it.
Try putting your slammer gear In the rath bet it would work
Hi Sir I prefer Penn VI 8500 Live Liner Reel what my son Regan has & it has 40 pound 4 Lvever Live Liner Settings & not only that it has the most SAFEST FEATURE ON THESE PENN REELS & I got the Penn VI 6500 Live Liner Reel & has 30 pound of drag & I got this Penn VI Live Liner Fishing Reel for a Christmas Present from my daughter Melinda & my son in law Robert & it has the same SAFETY FEATURE on this Penn VI Live Liner as well as the 4 Lever Live Liner Settings as well & both of these are VERY TOP QUALITY SAFEST REELS ON TODAY'S MARKET THANKS PENN DESIGNING & MAKING THESE 2 SAFEST REELS ON TODAY'S MARKET & WHEN YOU FLICK THE BAIL ARM OVER TO OPEN POSITION BIG CAST ON THE SURF CASTING ROD & YOU DO THE BIG CAST & IF THE HANDLE ON SHOULD TURN WHILE YOU ARE HALF WAY INTO THE CAST YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY IF THE HANDLE WILL TURN ON THE REEL THE BAIL ARM WILL NOT SLAM OVER TO CLOSED POSITION ON THE REEL AS THE BAIL ARM WILL STAY IN OPEN POSITION ALL THE WAY INTO THE CAST & EVEN YOU HAPPEN TO DO THE PENDULUM CAST THE BAIL ARM WILL STAY OPEN ALL THE TIME & ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THE BIG CAST & ALL YOU DO IS MANUALLY FLICK THE BAIL ARM OVER TO CLOSED POSITION THIS THE SAFETY FEATURE ON THESE 2 PENN REELS & THESE 2 ARE SMOOTH RUNNING REELS AS WELL & YOU HAVE TO HAND IT TO PENN DESIGNING THESE SAFETY FEATURES ON THESE 2 REELS & years ago before I brought a 20 foot fiberglass cabin with a a Yamaha f150 hp four stroke outboard motor & goes really well on the water to & as I say years ago before I got this boat I did a lot of Surf Casting with a powerful strong 12 foot Kilwell Surf Casting Rod & I always had a 50 pound shock leader & a 5 OZ sinker & had 2 7/0 hooks with big bait & I would 15 to 20 pound main line & now & then I was able to cast my line out but other times I wasn't so lucky as pull through with the Rod & sometimes the handle on the fair size Okuma egg beater reel would turn while I'm half way into the cast & slam down the bail arm & I always flick the bail arm over to open position but now & then the handle will turn on me & slamming the bail arm over into closed position & bang goes my line & my sinker would go FLYING THROUGH THE AIR AT HIGH SPEED & MY SHOCK LEADER. THE 2 7/0 HOOKS & BIG BAIT & HAS HAPPEN A FEW TIMES TO & ONE PARTICULAR TIME I WENT TO ANOTHER FISHING SPOT & THERE WERE PEOPLE FURTHER UP AWAY FROM ME & I WAS FISHING FOR NO PROBLEM ALL UNTIL I DECIDED TO DO THE PENDULUM CAST & I HAD FLICKED THE BAIL ARM OVER TO OPEN POSITION & GOT THE 5 OZ SINKER TO THE RIGHT SPOT TO THE ROD & SWUNG OUT THE SINKER & ONCE IT THE SINK TO RIGHT HEIGHT TO DO THE CAST THE BLOODY HANDLE HAD TURNED ON ME & THE BAIL ARM SLAMMED OVER PING WENT THE LINE & THE 5 OZ SINKER FLEW THROUGH AIR AT GREAT SPEED & GOING ALONG THE BEACH TOWARDS THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE BEACH & THE 5OZ SINKER NEARLY HIT SOMEONE & IT WAS A CLOSE CALL NOT GOOD & SHOCKED ME BIG TIME & I WENT UP THAT PERSON THAT 5 0Z SINKER NEAR HIT & I APOLOGIZE TO THAT PERSON & EXPLAINED TO THAT PERSON WHAT HAD HAPPENED & I WENT BACK TO SPOT WHERE I HAD BEEN FISHING & PACKED UP ALL MY GEAR & WENT HOME & IF I HAD THIS PENN VI 6500 LIVE LINER FISHING REEL YEARS AGO NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED & IM HAPPY THE I'VE GOT A NEW PENN VI 6500 LIVE LINER REEL & I CAST MY LINE OFF THE BOAT I WILL NEVER EVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IF THE HANDLE SHOULD TURN ON ME WHILE CASTING THEINE OUT I WILL NEVER EVER HAVE A BREAK OFF ON MY LINE EVER AGAIN THANKS TO PENN MAKING 2 EXCELLENT SAFETY FEATURE REELS GOOD ON YOU PENN EXCELLENT DESIGN ON THESE PENN LIVE LINER FISHING REELS
Kind Regards Peter & Sir so what do think about these Excellent Quality Reels Sir
One thing you don't want to do is run your faucet in your reels use a spray bottle with fresh water on it just saying
my wife has no idea what fishing gear is worth.... I left for a while to take care of my Mother out of state and while I was gone she gave away all the gear I'd spent years collecting..... :( She gave it away with no idea it was over $1000.00 worth of gear.
I have top tier reels and they are so expensive, i am very careful not to get even the tiniest scratch, or getting sand or water on it. With the reels on the same level as the Penn Wrath, you don't worry about being careful, because it's cheap and your wallet won't take a big hit. I take great care with my gear, so the Penn Wrath in my hands will last decades or more. Just look at all the classic old surf reels, no ball bearings, but still going strong. The big difference is their owners. They get cleaned and lubed, so they will last fr generations.
There is a huge difference between those 2 reels slammer has brass gears seals everywhere
No...tell us how you really feel about the wrath. Works just fine for me.
Not a clue😂
i want a slammer now. thanks now i want to waste $ lol
Haha apologize for that...guess there are worse things to waste money on.
Ok...
one is cheap plastic one is graphite and metal 🙄
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Sobre todo el matrimonio ...
Better to ask for forgiveness, then ask at all. That's worked for 31 years-lol!