HOW TO USE CHEAP CAMBER TOOL | HOW TO SET CAMBER
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- HOW TO USE CHEAP CAMBER TOOL | HOW TO SET CAMBER
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Hey guys, if you have ever done some work to the front end of your vehicle or rear end such as strut replacement, control arm, wheel hub bearing... you will need to set the correct camber for your wheel. If the camber is not correct it can make the car very unstable and even cause uneven tire wear.
We use this cheap tool, it is not the most precise tool but it does the job great If you want more accurate you will need a computer alignment. We demonstrated on a this Mazda CX-7 but it will be similar procedure for many vehicles.
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Make sure you ZERO out your camber tool before checking the wheel again at the end, after you've completed all the adjustments
Thanks for the video. Ive done my own toe alignments for years and just eyeballed it. Only took it to the alignment shop for the camber as ive never done it before but now i see its not as difficult as i thought. I desperately need to attempt to fix the camber on my envoy before the new tires are destroyed. Alignment shops all tell me have to replace the control arms and joints but they wanted over $1200(i bought the parts from Detroit-axel for $80).My mechanic is too busy on my car to get to my envoy rt now so ill try this for a short save til i can get the parts changed and a proper alignment. Thanks
Good video, I'd say it's the best I've seen yet for camber adjustment. At first I thought why would you have to reverse and pull forward again but I guess when you drop it down off the jack the tire could be bound a bit, just enough the raise or lower the suspension on that side throwing the level off enough to give an inaccurate reading.
Great video bro! I think it's a reliable procedure as long as it is done correctly, for me it is difficult to find a perfect flat ground area since this is what the lever tool depends on.
Just bought a camber tool. This video was what I needed. Thanks guys!
Fantastic video guys - thank you SO much. I have just bought this tool after watching your video... and it has shown the garage to be inaccurate. Sure I cannot ensure level ground, but it will give an accurate difference between the wheels each side, and as it is the DIFFERENCE between camber that is dangerous, the +4 degrees of camber difference (!) I found using this tool, explains why my car drove out of the garage pulling to the right :)
It is worth mentioning that whilst some of the 4-wheel alignment rigs at a garage are good, they are only good if they are regularly calibrated and the operator knows how to use them properly. It is worth spending $30 on one of these just to check for peace of mind.
Again - great video guys. I am very happy for the effort you made in uploading this video. Very clear.
Hey, I like your show, I am working on a 335i. Let me add, I find the cheap camber tool does not give repeatable results. To fix, I opened the center section by removing the pin; I cut two coils out of the tension spring to reduce pressure on the adjustment screw; I changed the adjustment screw to a M7 1.0 for accurate movement; the bubble tube was loose in the center section due to bad glue on either end so I repositioned the tube and added good adhesive on the ends - these changes gave me within 1/8 degree repeatability. Hope you see this. Thanks
Thanks for explaining how it works.
These guys are only trying to help, If you don't like their method, do it your own way, he said make sure you are on level ground ! all you have to do is listen not blab!
Computerised wheel alignment can be faulty too, so this a good way to save you money, wheel alignments is somewhat expensive, I'd rather do it myself if I could
yeah, wheel alignment is expensive if you consider you need wheel alignment after changing tyre..then after some time your wheel bearing broke..and the your drive shaft broke...changing those faulty part and everytime you change you need to do chamber alignmen...if you changing those at tyre shop maybe they give u a little bit of discount. But if you do it yourself or do at others mechanic who doesnt have computer calibration setup, after changing and you go to others tyre shop they usually charge you quite amount of money
Local garages always find suspension parts or motor mounts that need to be replaced (they say) before they will do an alignment. So I do not have the $400 to $600 estimated cost. So I go home having spent money for no alignment and no repair. This is why I want to do things myself while trying to allow for some parts wear that I may be able to live with. I still do not buy the technician’s argument that worn motor mounts will alter the wheel alignment. I can often get my alignment close enough and improved over what I had. These videos here do not address that the camber reset throws the toe-in off. The toe-in then has to be reset.
Need to put the tool in a straight and level wall or visaversa calibrate the tool than use it , I have the same or similar it’s on the instructions then you can get your readings, hope it’s helps!
Guys thank you so much for your videos. They help a lot
Ideally vehicle should be level side to side and front to back. Weight distribution will impact ride height and ride height is key contributor to camber variation. Camber adjustment should be good if vehicle not more than 2 - 3* from level. Setting vehicle tires on ramps or boxes will load vehicle suspension and be at normal ride height. Adjust level with wood pieces under tire(s) where needed. The camber gauge needs to be zeroed. If rear is a solid axle (not independent), you could zero gauge from rear rotor. Zero gauge with gauge pointing to right for right side measurement and to the left before measuring the left side. If independent rear, zero from a horizontal or vertical reference on the vehicle frame. Just use a square on horizontal surface to give you a vertical reference when zeroing gauge. If vehicle not level side to side, when you zero your gauge, the gauge will then give you accurate measurement of camber. Hope this info provides additional insight on getting accurate measurements and good results. Don't forget to measure toe after making camber adjustments.
Disculpa una consulta,en el piso la rueda marca,-1/4 negativo, y elevado poniendo el calibrador magnético -1 1/4 grados negativo a cuántos grados dejo el calibrador aflojando y ajustando los pernos del amortiguador Macpherson, para que en el piso quede la rueda a 0° grados gracias
To maintain camber when you change the struts, you should get the exact degrees when the car is jacked up with stands, after that remove the tire and change the struts, when complete check the camber degree, adjust it from its original degrees when you first checked the degree, while the car is still jacked up. This way you wont lose the camber alignment
nice tips, thanks dude...so we record the degrees before we changing any related parts..even it its not fully level i think its still better than misalign
Disculpa puntales te refieres a amortiguador Macpherson
it has been ages for me searching a video on how to use that exact camber tool. And finally, here it is! thanks so much!!
Calibrate camber tool to zero then take reading with wheel on 1:40
Following wheel removal, adjust _camber tool_ to value *before* wheel removed 3:15
Thank you for the explanation of how to use the tool.
Very very thank you for the tips , from malaysia ❤
Very well explained bro. Thank you. SVS Hyderabad India.
Are you sure the floor is even before testing alignment?
Thank you guys very helpful and great American Russian people
You forgot show tool re-calibration after adjustment?
good video but what negativa or positive camber does when you drive the car
thx. it a gd video. ez to understand.
great job guys.
Feature request: video on how to use a digital angle gauge for the same purpose. And then also another one for using the aluminum plates with the same (ex: Tenhulzen Automotive 2-Wheel Alignment Tool ) :)
Great tool to use and I'm saying it by experience BUT some tips for everyone going of what I use to do with my drift car changing it from track to road.
Most importantly make sure your ground is 100% level
Jack your car up from the cross member or each wheel and place stands under a good spot that bares weight on your suspension on BOTH side of the car and lower the car onto the stands. You now have full weight on your car like you would if the wheel were still on. In the case of race cars or drift cars with rear adjustable camber put the whole car on stands baring all the weight on all four sections were you can put full weight on the suspension as if the wheels where still on the car.
Make sure that all stands are at the exact same height if your not sure use a ruler or tape measure to check your stand height. Also make sure you place your stands in the exact same position on you car on both sides.
Once all wheel are off the ground simply take your rims off place your camber tool on each wheel and adjust it until your hearts contempt.
Please be carful when unbolting tight nuts or bolts and remember the car is fully dependent on the stands so make sure they are in a good spot and be safe. I always placed extra stands under the chassis barring no weight just incas. Hope this helps you guys but the tool is a great tool and works well when use right. Good luck and please like this comment so it stay up the top for everyone else to be able to use this tool correctly. If I missed anything please feel free to comment and teach me a few things
Jason Johnston okay but what if you don't have a level ground to work with?
Greenfire 317 then you won't get a very good outcome obviously. You could try using the stands to level out the car as much as possible but I really wouldn't advice doing it that way.
Jason Johnston well my buddies garage isn't level but it is flat. I was thing of stretching a 2x4 or 4x4 across from side to side and using jack stands to support that
Greenfire 317 should be fine as long as the 4x4 and 4x2 is level because that should give you true level of the car.
Level ground is a nice starting point but I wouldn't assume the car to be level from measuring the height of your axle stands. The only way to make sure it's level, or at least in the same position as last time, is to use a spirit level.
The alignment shop I go to says they can't adjust the camber on my car; so I bought some camber bolts to replace my upper strut bolts but all the other instructions I found online said you needed alignment equipment to install them. That basically makes the camber bolts useless to me since I don't have the equipment, the method shown in the video may be a good solution to the problem though, but I think mine are off on both sides, right side is probably worse though because I glanced off a cement barrier the first summer I owned my car. The alignment has been scewy since then even with aligments at the shop my car pulls slightly to the right if I don't keep my hands on the wheel.
The boots on my CV axle at the very least on the left side are busted so I also get vibration on the freeway at around 65mph that lessens if I stay on the freeway for a while. I also have some brake squeak and possible slight rotor warp on the right rear. Got to look into fixing all this soon as I borrow a jack and some stands.
Thanks for the video this method might be worth a try; and since the place I have lifetime alignment at said they don't install camber bolts I don't want to go to a different place and have to pay to get them installed.
Then replace whatever you bent and the alignment should be ok again
Fantastic informative video sir thanks 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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thank you this is the tools that’s i Understand how to used them to do wheels Alignments most peoples doing a shit jobs just to keep its goings because they can’t afford go to the mechanic important don’t brings your girls friends or your wife with you while you driving test it’s first to make sure not one’s off the wheels if fells apart
fyi, if you're going to use this gauge you need to pay attention to both spirit levels in the tool. I noticed that when you made your measurement that you did not rotate the gauge to get it level. Not doing so will give you an incorrect camber reading. I would also think that the vehicle needs to be sitting on a level surface for it to be accurate.
If you have a vehicle that has access camber adjusters. Can you adjust them with the tires on the vehicle?
Hi If you do the camber doe's it but the wheel alignment out my town and country camber is out but the alignment is good thanks for good video.
Very helpful, thanks !
Thank you for this video!!!
hello good video, but i think you forget to explain how to make the zero before use (take a vertical reference and set the bubble to 0 and after using it).
for people using this tool, you must absolutely make sure the car is perfectly level left to right. And you have to rest the car on the knuckles to put the strut into the position as if it was sitting on the wheels. This requires some common sense and carpentry skills which many dont really have.
@LeonL47 as long as you raise the one side underneath the lowest control arm so it lifts the whole wheel as well. and then either using a bubble level or laser level on the roof of the car to make sure the car stays level and you're not jacking the one side too much. To be honest, its a good gimmick but requires too much effort. Id rather just pay the 60 bucks and get it done right by a pro.
You have reason, you need a perfect slab to use this tool. The alignment machine is perfectly leveled. This little tool is a waste of money.
@@mikealba3729absolutely not if you know how to use the tool and if you can’t use this or work it out you shouldn’t be allowed near the big boys tools
Quick question: any issues/impact if i set -1.5 camber to ONLY my front wheels using caliber bolts? Primary aim is to tuck in about 8mm of the 20mm pole to ensure i clear fenders on max suspension travel. Rear would remain stock on my BRZ.
nice video. need to do this on my cheapass Chevy Volt. it's got too much understeer and I suspect a camber adjustment is in order.
Give it less toe in to cure understeer....even a little toe out is the trick
Good video I'm getting one of those
Thanks for detail high quality video
Shouldn't the first step to be putting a level onto the garage floor, to be certain the car is perfectly level side to side, within a degree?
The car needs to on a perfectly level surface for this tool to work
No, the car does need to be level itself but not necessarily on a level surface, though that does make it easier.
That's what he said in the video and it makes sense 👍
Most garages are level
Shouldn't you first make sure that your car is on level ground?
Where should the adjustment on the gauge be before you check the camber?
You have to first adjust the level of tool with an object like your refrigerator, then install it on the car to be accurate!
So it’s a pretty accurate tool in measuring camber?
Great video thank you
Great video, this and the camber device recommendation really helps.
Without being able to set the castor.... what is the use of this? I don't see it.
Do I need to buy a special camber bolt to do this camber adjustment? In this video they didn't use the special camber bolt to do adjustment at all. They pulled the brake-disc system by hands and a hammer. I guess it worked out for them.
Just waiting for him to say Suka Blyat 😂 slav accent so heavy 👌🏻
Diddy Sh no, that’s a dutch accent.
that can't be right now as you adjusted the screw underneath the gauge. Isn't the screw to calibrate zero deg on a known true vertical BEFORE you use it?
if you have like 1m piece of plank wood or something straight you can lay it on the ground and check if it is level, otherwise you could substract the angle. alternatively you could check the initial angles with the car facing forward then backwards as calculate what angle you need to substract/add. for example you have -1 both wheels and ground is tilted 0.2 to the right then you will measure -1.2/-0.8 forward and -0.8/-1.2 facing backwards. the real angle is the average: -1/-1 then the tilt -0.8-(-1)=0.2
Nice video sir ,
the device was not calibrated, how was the device calibrated for vertical?
I have the same question for them.
Will they answer ????😅
love his accent
Is it possible to adjust the camber on an uneven ground
No
you guys are badass!
I have bought the same tool off Aliexpress.
The tool is NOT SET TO ZERO, out of the box, as it has a knurled knob adjustment, and it is preset a some random angle.
How did you set it to zero ?
I can only think that I would have to stick it to a calibrated perfectly vertical surface and then zero the bubble with the knob ?
How did you do this ?
Thank so much for your details video
Check your floor spirit level before done camber check.
Only the front has to be level. So any bad Bushings. Springs. Shocks will screw the results. Why you have to measure the frame to ground clearance first. If it's out of spec. You're alignment is not set.
I'm more worried about toe. As tie rods wear out and eat tires like candy!
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To be useful there need to be a way to determine if the ground is level under all the wheels at once. Without a laser level this is very hard to do.
Wrong
See at the end of. The video measurement while the tool is not leveled bubble not on the middle
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omg soooo great
but please tell me the name of that u put in the wells? that one had green wather?
he is putting the tool on the rotor wear strip ridge which will put off the reading
Where do I get this screw? My car is the wheel deflector to the inside from the top
excellent, just what i was looking for, thank you. 👍
Does this also work for castor and is there a toe tool
Buenas noches, una consulta tengo un auto con sistema Macpherson en el piso marca -1/4° negativo y colocado en el disco de freno marca,-11/4, un grado y un cuarto negativo como hago, para llegar a cero grados 0° ??,tomo referencia de la primera o segunda medida para llegar a cero grados 0° gracias saludos desde Lima PERÚ
iam ordering that! thanks!
This may be the first time I saw a RUclips channel with an automotive name use a factory tire iron to remove lugnuts. I guess everyone has to start somewhere, right? Also, when using a bubble guage of any type, you go by the center of the bubble, not the edge...
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Guys you need to put that tool on the top of the disc
Estando elevado el carro en un grado y un cuarto negativo en cuantos grados debo de dejar para que en el piso quedee 0° cero grados, inicialmente en el piso marcaba -1/4 negativo
I think once u drop the car and drive ther will be a difference also uk roads are arched and aligners will take that into consideration where u won’t
can i ask, if chamber is not align, will it make tyre to produce vibration sound between left or right conering?
Sounds more like a hub bearing is bad
OF COURSE NOT ! 😅
perfect tool
Awesome
Shouldn't the bubble be at 0 to be plumb with a level floor?
The car must be level. . all wheel centres must be inline before you start . . (all four corners) . . . .BUT WAIT . . . . . are your disc's flat where the tool seats. .no wear ridge etc . . . . if it's all ok . . we can measure . . .
This is just a tool is to get your camber close to what it should be or what you want (people mess with geometry) until you have laser alignment . . . it's good for this job
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Should work perfect .....even on un level floor.....just have to use your math and create your own .....zero reference point.
How do you mean do math? I've an unlevel surface on driveway almost flat. I have a level surface in my shed but only the front of the car will fit in the shed would it be possible for me to use this tool?
it gets very confusing because you keep forgetting the word ‘NEGATIVE’
I will like to have this equipment for my tyre servicing centre.
Was hoping caster also
Como se llama esa herramienta?
Wtf did I just watch here..?
whats the adjustment knob for?
Yes, be sure the ground that reaches all tires are leveled first. edit: just in case someone assumes....
RODERICK CONSTANTINO what if your car isn't on level ground
what the camber adjustment on astra H 06
camber must be set with the wheels on the ground.
My garage floor is not level so i use a 2 foot sguare and a tape measure.. not very acurate especially if you measure to the tires so i measure to the rim top and bottom.. a little math and yeah not great but gets me to the shop...
Will this work on a e90
Hi there can anyone tell me I have a pajero 4x4 wagon 1992 it says 30 to 40 mins I have this tool on the vid but how do i find the settings on it. Nick
60 minutes is equal to one degree. With the tool in the video, you might be able to approximate 40 minutes but you could get the 30 minutes to a reasonable degree of accuracy since there is a half degree mark.
Anybody else's flesh crawl at the sound of that breaker bar rubbing the fender lip?
Ahh, NO ... it didn't rub the fender at all ... That sound was the nut breaking loose from the hub ..