I received my Orochi a few days ago, coming from the pwnage ultra custom. All I can say is the buttons on the Orochi make my pwnage mouse seem like a McDonald’s happy meal toy.
I've been using G305 for 2 years. Switched to Orochi V2 few days ago instantly fell in love. The shapes are pretty similar. You can easily get used to Orochi's shape fast! If you have tiny hands, Orochi V2 might just be the best small wireless mice on the market imo. It is way lighter than G305. Love it. Shape wise I'm sure small hands will all love it. As for sensor? tbh all the sensors on gaming mouse released within past 3-4 years are all good enough. Just get used to it, and u will be fine.
My Orochi came in 2 days ago and I couldn't be happier with it (coming from the original G-Wolves Hati), the smaller shape is so nice and the biggest plus is being able to Beaulo spin my mouse.
I got my Orochi v2 and had my doubts before getting it. Using it for a couple hours. I can honestly say I’m surprised. Love the coating on it, great stock feet, significantly better weight balancing (i actually put a triple A in the AA slot lul) and nice snappy clicks. For $70. I’m actually going to say its worth it. I did get a G305 Bundle at Walmart for $20 which is a hell of a bargain. But comparing the two. I like the Orochi’s shape better since it does remind me of a MM720 without the ring finger rest. Also sensor positioning one thing i actually kind of noticed, but actually ended up being beneficial for my aim. Overall I am a big fan of this mouse.
I actually really don't like a lot of rechargeable mice, you're back up in seconds and you don't have to charge it. if you buy rechargeable, you just swap them when it dies. also batterymice usually use a lot more of their juice because they're normally just drain the battery to nothing before you need to replace the batt. also lighter because you can mod the mouse and a lot of these mice can be ran on 2 button cells if you mod them. if you hate disposable batteries, just buy a large pack of Ni-Mh batteries, and you will fall in love with now fast and simple and cheap it is to just keep a charging dock at your desk and immediately have a brand new battery at your desk any time your mouse or other things die. I went from seeking internally rechargeable devices to AA/AAA devices as soon as I bought them, trust me you won't regret it.
The comparison between the orochi and the g305 is made because there's a good chunk of reviewers who have no Idea what they are talking about. Thank you boardzy, very cool.
Bought this mouse as a gift for a couple family members a couple years ago when it was on sale and loved it so much I almost wanted to keep it for myself. Insanely good shape for me, super high quality feeling mouse
I really wanna get it but it’s $98 here in uk. Am hoping it goes on sale on Amazon like the other mice, I have no problem paying $70 cause that’s like £50. Don’t really need a new mouse but would be nice to get a good wireless one
*Long Review and a Summary Review of the Razer Orochi V2 as of 10/15/21 with a week as my main.* I come from the Razer Naga Trinity using the 12 button side panel for over 2 years and with about 6 months usage with the 2 button side panel. And with 2 weeks using the G305 lightspeed. I had to redo this review because I took the cover off the mouse and accidentally pressed a button so my comment was gone since I was sent to another page. *_Summary of my review:_* I have small-medium hands. I prefer a claw/palm grip. The shape of the mouse could have been better, the hump close to the back as it does nothing in its current position and the side groove for the thumb repositioned up to make it easier to press the side buttons. A longer length would have been better. It doesn't have a 2 to 1 ratio. Unsure how much that makes a difference. Buttons are good. The dpi button is hard to press due to the awkward position. It is a lightweight mouse and picking it up to reposition is not difficult but sometimes slightly awkward since I can't find a consistent grip and I keep changing while using it. It has a smooth glide. More so than the 305. I prefer the size of the 305 than the Orochi. Connectivity works pretty well but I have had an issue with the PC/Synapse not recognizing the mouse, replugging in the dongle fixes this. You should use the dongle for gaming but other than that bluetooth works great. The 305 only has the dongle. I like that I can change the scroll up and scroll down of the middle mouse button so they both have a different bind when using hypershift and it's normal bind when not using hypershift so I still have the normal scroll up/down and extra buttons. You can't do that for the 305. Razer has had issues changing profile so I have to manually do it and there are no preset commands in Razer like ghub has for some games. Lint collects a lot in the feet of the Orochi. And the edges of the product information sticker. Overall I do like the mouse and the functionality. I which the shape was a little bit different and the feet didn't collect that much lint. *It is worth the price.* If you use the fingertip grip or the claw then this mouse is for you. I do want to add I used it on bluetooth with my phone and it worked well. It is smaller than the 305. The feel of it in my hand. I have been using this mouse a week. The claw grip style isn't the best for me even with my small/medium hands. I guess this mouse is more fingertip. I don't like using mouse that way. I guess I do a mix of claw/palm, my ring finger hits the right edge of the right click mouse button and sometimes it would pinch that finger. Doesn't hurt at all, I can just feel the edge of the button and it will slightly squeeze. The mouse is shorter than I would like. Due to my own comfort and RocketJumpNinjas' idea of a 2 to 1 ratio for a mouse. The bump I wish was more towards the back, it being in the middle I feel doesn't do anything. If it was back more then it might have contact with the bottom of my palm close to my wrist, as of now there is a gap between my thumb and the opposite outer edge of my palm. Put your thumb to your pinky, there is a gap there, that is the area I am talking about. The groove for your thumb is comfortable and makes picking up the mouse easy which without, it isn't the easiest so grip tap might work wonders here but I haven't used grip tap before on mice. If the bottom edge of the thumb groove/the thumb groove as a whole was slightly higher, closer to the mouse buttons I might have an easier time using the side buttons and have a nice grip on the mouse. The middle mouse button isn't hard to click but I wish it was a little easier. The scroll wheel up and down is easy to use as are the side buttons. The "dpi" button which I have remapped is easy to press but I have to completely curl my finger inwards to press it. Easy to do but not comfortable or fast. The 305 is easier to pick up given the shape. The sides of the Orochi are easy to get used to but I reposition my hand often in use. I can't find a consistent grip for the mouse. The weight of the Orochi is pretty good. I have no issues at this weight. I am used to the MMO mouse the Razer Naga Trinity which is about 120 grams or 110(iirc, please look this up in case I am wrong on weight) so switching to the G305 which is 100 didn't feel much different until I did the foil mod. Then I had connectivity issues since the connection wasn't the best using that mod. The 305 was easy to pick up due to the sides curving in. It was pretty odd at first though on the 305. Given the issues I had in my previous paragraph though. The Orochi and the 305 I can pick up the whole mouse for repositioning. As for the Naga I would lift up one side and drag it. It is a heavier mouse and there is difference in weight from the Naga and either of the other two mice assuming you are using the AAA converter mod(the lithium battery as well which the 305 doesn't come with) for the 305 and the lighter battery whether is it the lithium(Orochi comes with) or a AAA. I think it might be slightly back heavy but I might be imagining that. It is a smooth glide. More so than the G305. As for bluetooth or the dongle. I played a few games on bluetooth and I thought it was my internet or me having a bad aim day. I didn't know I left it on bluetooth mode. After switching it back to the dongle I was hitting more shots. An issue I had when I switched to the dongle from bluetooth a couple times my PC/synapse wouldn't recognize the mouse which means I couldn't use it. Reconnecting the dongle fixed this issue but it happened twice during a buy phase so I couldn't buy weapons. If you are not playing a competitive game, I don't know that you would be able to notice. I played Valorant and Overwatch on bluetooth and I didn't know if it was the mouse being on bluetooth or not but after changing to the dongle I was more effective. A couple times switching from bluetooth to the dongle has made the mouse not be recognized by my PC and Razer Synapse. This has caused me to not buy in the buy phase cause I was reconnecting my mouse and didn't immediately mess with the dongle itself. Replugging in the dongle fixes it. It might be an issue with Valorant. I can switch modes outside of Val on my desktop and the mouse has no issues. The functionality of the mouse is good. There is no tilt function but you can remap the scroll up and down to something else. I have scroll up and down remapped using hypershift so I have the normal functionality but two added keybinds in games. When switching from bluetooth to the dongle sometimes Razer doesn't recognize the mouse like I have mentioned. I remapped the dpi cycle button since I only use 800 dpi and thus I have another keybind. My hypershift button is the side button which is normally M4, my new M4 is mapped to the dpi button so that I still have it. Having hypershift as that side button makes it easy to press that button and any other button on the mouse with it. Unlike if I used the dpi cycle button as the hypershift key. The software has trouble switching profiles so I have to manually do it a lot. It does recognize a lot of my games. You can add another game like you can in ghub for the G305. Razer will try and find the game for you can show you some files, you can still browse to find it yourself. The G305 has prebuilt commands for the games it recognizes so you don't have to find out what keys the game uses by opening it up. Make sure you select the right executable or the profile won't change. It could say "thegame"win64.exe instead of just "thegame".exe. You need to keep that in mind. You can not rebind the scroll up and scroll down like you can in Razer. Or I would have changed the scroll up and down to something else when using gshift to get two more buttons. That is somewhat of a trade off. If you changed the keybinds in the game when using ghub I think the keybinds on the mouse stay the same if you used the prebuilt commands. If you choose to do the normal mimic the keyboard keys then it won't change with the change in game and you would need to change it in the software which is what you always get with Razer. Only one battery works at a time. You can't fit a AAA and a AA at the same time. It is nice it has a slot for either an AAA or an AA. The look of the mouse. I couldn't get the black variant except from the Razer store so I went with the white one. The white one is a lint magnet. You can just brush it off so that is fine. Under the mouse at the bottom is another story. The feet are lint magnets as well as the sticker(?) with the extra information on the mouse like the serial number. I prefer the logo on the Razer than the 305. The 305 is black so not so much a lint magnet and there isn't nearly as much lint/crud on the feet or bottom of the 305. The scroll wheel on the 305 does collect some lint. Even my Razer Naga Trinity didn't collect this much lint.
@@azd25 The only issue I have had is connecting, sometimes you will need to plug it back into the port after initial connection since sometimes synapse won't recognize it or at worst case the mouse will stutter but once unplugged and plugged back in the issue will be fixed and this has not happened often. It always appears right at the beginning, so after turning on your PC or plugging in the USB the issue will show. The clicks have always worked and feel nice. I feel it has been accurate in tracking/flicks and hasn't faltered. It hasn't skipped or anything like that. I haven't noticed double clicks or anything.
I don't look at the price too much as long as it's below 80 USD, that's why I don't think I will ever buy a GPX Superlight even though I think it's actually a good mouse for me. 70 usd dollar for such a versatile mouse is a steal.
Yo man I am getting a artisan mouse pad for fortnite and I want a speedy mouse pad What's a good one shidenkai? Hien? Please reply I need help lmao Edit:how mutch does it cost?
In terms of the price check the artisan website lol. Depends on shipping and where ur from. In terms of speed the Raiden and Shidenkai are fastest followed by the Hien/Otsu. Shidenkai wears down over time but then it's essentially a hien. Zero is slowest most control focused pad
@@boon5124 correct. There's like a glass bead coating on the shidenkai that begins to wear off after awhile and you can kind of pull it off and it's a hien underneath. Boardzy made a video about it awhile ago and showed that off
something that you're not taking into consideration is the bad build quality/longevity of razer products overall. I have a MX518 still working, while most of the razer products I have used didn't last more than 2 years...
I know I'm a year late to this comment section. But talking about build quality, the g305 feels like a cheap mouse compared to the orochi, especially the scroll wheel. The build quality is just so much better on the orochi.
I purchased this mouse and I think It’s risky shape me as fingertiper wasn’t liked it (maybe cause of small hands idk), sensor lift off as well felt a higher than 1mm, but I admite that, was very precise. I wouldn’t consider that mouse as a safe recommendation.
replacement batteries are superior to built in batteries that is seen in all "premium" mice no plugging in for charging and even having to bother with the charging cable at all, just switch to your rechargable lithium aaa battery that is already charged up. headphone vids aside, pretty solid vid
I hope I get a response to this question, but im wondering what the best mouse around the 35 - 38 dollar range in 2024. I'm looking at the redragon m619 and the logitech g305 but I feel like both are pretty outdated so lmk if you have any recommendations.
Absolutely confused about why people complain about this. You can have like a fucking container on your desk with batteries in it and whenever you run out, you can replace it. Having 20 batteries will literally last you months if not a year. And it's a lot faster than charging. Are people so lazy that they can't even take off the top shell?
I got a model o wireless recently and now im refunding it because it just doesn't play properly with my style , i cant aim well like i used to with the asus gladius 2 ergo gaming mouse , planning to get this orochi v2 what r ur thoughts ? My hand size is 17.5 cms
Not sure what you mean by "By going the non-rechargeable battery route Razer was able to produce a top-tier mouse with top-tier features and good weight balancing". That kind of makes it sound like they're only able to sell the mouse with these features for 70$ because it doesn't have an internal battery. As the Razer rep on the Triple Click Podcast said that the Orochi is "ultimately positioned to be a portable gaming mouse". Meaning, their goal for it was never to have an internal battery, and I'd say by comparing the requirements of the portable version it's quite clear that this isn't about compromise but about design decision. A portable mouse's shell has to be designed to house and easily replace AA batteries, and for the PCB to accept 1.5v. In the case of the Orochi that means the entire button shell is removable and that the innershell fits batteries. I'd more so assume that Razer invested quite a bit of R&D into making the mouse feel way better than protable mice used to. If they wanted to make a wireless mouse for stationary setups, they would've been able to reuse designs and components from their other mice that use 3.7v internal lipo batteries, aswell as have an better designed topshell. (seperated buttons, more lightweight (the mouse isn't particularely lightweight for how small it is)) So I'd say making a mouse that targets a different purpose than any of their recent wireless mice doesn't lend itself for it to be cheaper to produce and that the small added costs to having a USB-port and an internal battery, compared to shipping every unit with Energizer batteries, probably wouldn't make a "stationary gaming" version any more expensive. And I would make the claim, that even if it was 5-10$ more expensive, most people who bought the mouse and post it on like r/mousereview, probably would've gone for the
It makes it sound like that because that is what you would like to think. I’m saying that the reality of the situation is that the mouse uses batteries and still feels amazing. Didn’t bother reading the essay because u seemed to be going off of a flawed analysis
@@boardzy Saying that the mouse is still great even when using batteries just isn't the same as saying the mouse is great because it uses batteries. If you can spare the time to explain how your statement with the scheme of "by going with X, Y was able to produce Z with top-tier features" does not directly imply that "Z" having "X", is at least partially the reason it does have the top-tier features, I'd be very glad to hear it. Because, to me, there doesn't seem to be a way to factually interpret it otherwise. And the short form of my essay about the mouse is, that making it a version with an internal lipo battery and a charging port shouldn't have changed the price much, if at all, and that version would've been better suited for the majority of customers I've heard of buying the mouse. The critism I'd like to give you, is that you made a video asking why companies don't keep striving for "the perfect prodcut", but now you're fine with a mouse featuring a battery implementation that's worse for the "stationary gamers" like yourself you mainly rate products for, and that's not inline with that opinion. Anyone's free to change their opinions ofc tho.
@@MehKore у съемной батареи есть неоспоримое качество, она не деградирует со временем, то есть и через 5 лет мышка технически будет в порядке, в отличии от мыши на аккумуляторе, которую нужно заряжать каждые 40-60 часов, тут же вы на 450 часов забываете об этом, а в последствии двумя движениями решаете проблему еще на 450 часов, надеюсь посыл понятен .
Wireless mouse who use AA battery is in better, imo. I mean, why go wireless in the first place if you still need to clutter your desk with cables for charging the mouse? And while charging the mouse, you're still essentially using a wired mouse. So the solution? get a swappable battery. And if you want, you can get rechargeable AA battery with type C or micro USB plug. That'll save some battery cost and more environmentally friendly if you're into that.
Heys could you tell me the dpi steps for this orochi v2? The only reason I don’t use the viper mini is because they don’t have dpi steps of 50. I’m using 450 dpi and it’s important to me.
Dude. This mouse is sick and anyone who disagrees without trying it is out of their mind. I own like 20 mice and this is like the only one I don't have a list of things I hate about it.
Bro what should i pick orochi v2 or deathadder v2x shifting frol viper mini want a reliable moise coz my viper mini scroll is drifting scrolling on its own super annoying
Bought G305/G304 for $40 + mods around $10+ (Tiger ICE Mouse feet, Energizer lithium then the adapter) here in the Philippines.. the Orochi here is $70+ so what do you think about the deal I made?
Hey friend, nice video. I ordered the orochi v2, but im a bit worried it will be too smal for my 21cm hands, i was thinking about orochi v2 or logitech g pro superlight, do you think i made a good choice for a fingertip grip user? Im worried that my fingers will stay too much close to each other since it's a really small mouse :/. But i trusted your review and i ordered ahaha. My current mouse is Razer Viper normal version, but i was tempted
Any issues with double-clicking with these switches? Had the G Pro before, but double-clicking issues were so bad I stopped using it. Also, do you think the Viper Ultimate is worth it with the new $90 price tag?
Question marks popping in my head after hearing '72 grams is considered heavy for some people' while I'm here using a g502 with all weights inside. What am I missing guys?
funny thing...you can buy the best rechargeable batteries. the moment one dies it will take you 2 seconds to switch to a fully charge battery and than you put the other to charge.
Bro remember i said im buying this mouse in last video because it looks cool ? Well it definetly is, it arrived super quick and feels good to use. Happy with it 😁
If you do a triple a battery with tin foil in the double a slot, does that fix the weight balancing for only like a gram or two more compared to putting it in the triple a slot?
@@boardzy Im talking in general the only possible downside of battery over rechargeable, not this specific mouse. At least on my g305 its a small issue for me
Orochi is on sale rn for like 35. Fantech aria is also something you can look at. If you get either please lmk! Don't have anything wrong with my 305 but definitely curious on other people's opinion on similar ish shapes
Next video u should confirm if the AAA battery reAly makes the orochi feel unbalanced been seeing that a bit on Twitter and a couple of reviews can u confirm ?
I prefer removable batteries anyways because I just use my own rechargeable batteries which last longer and can just be easily swapped out if they ever die.
g305 + battery mod + mouse switch replacement with huano blue shell white dot (or kaihl gm 8.0, gm4.0 etc since the switch cost about the same)+ new glide still cost less than orochi v2 in my country. so i think if you are willing to mod or you are thinkerer and like to mod ur mouse g305 is the way to go and its easier on the wallet
and since those crappy omron switches just die on me for no reason i am forced to replace it with huano blue shell white dot and it has been fantastic, looking forward to get a better glide soon
You guys are so lucky, where i live the orochi cost more than double the price of the g305. For most of the world, they arent comparable because they belong to different price tiers.
Honestly torn between the V2, superlight and zys rail. I got fairly big hands, currently using the Hati s original. I play Fortnite and other fps games what mouse would you Guys recommend?
Completely, unrelated. But how do you clean that white mousepad of yours? Do you also do the lysol and wipe on that like in your previous video? Thanks, boardzy!
The only thing that slightly puts me off from buying this mouse is the fact that you have to use it with batteries, I would have preferred it to be rechargeable because I hate having to go and buy batteries tbh
You can get even better weight and balance than stock by using a AAA battery with an adapter in the AA slot instead of putting the AAA in the back slot
when i did this is totally messed with the way the glide felt on some pads, stock 72 has felt the best but yeah people can definitely experiment however they want
I have the mouse and it is very different it is in the realm of probably diddling a few relatives of the 303 and 305 selective breeding and came out good
I dont know .. 80€ at Germany and 5-10€ for Batteries :/ seems fine but a bit expensive at the same time. I would like to Try hat Mice , i have the G305 and now the Xm1r but smaller mice seems faster for me.
who is based and batterypilled?
yes 🐸
what is a based ? please help
I'm broke, but I still bought the orochi‽
based on what?
me
I received my Orochi a few days ago, coming from the pwnage ultra custom. All
I can say is the buttons on the Orochi make my pwnage mouse seem like a McDonald’s happy meal toy.
How would you compare the mouse clicks between the two? Which one has a lighter click?
@@AmericasianKid1 its been 4 months but definitely the orochi
@@jones4452 Sweet, I got mine in amazon a couple days ago for only 35 bucks cuz it was on sale
@@YexnyXD same
@@AmericasianKid1 g305
I've been using G305 for 2 years. Switched to Orochi V2 few days ago instantly fell in love. The shapes are pretty similar. You can easily get used to Orochi's shape fast! If you have tiny hands, Orochi V2 might just be the best small wireless mice on the market imo. It is way lighter than G305. Love it. Shape wise I'm sure small hands will all love it. As for sensor? tbh all the sensors on gaming mouse released within past 3-4 years are all good enough. Just get used to it, and u will be fine.
Sensor is top tier, its equivalent to a 3369
I paid 20$ at Wal-Mart for a bundle that came with a G305 and a G240 mousepad. That was the deal of a lifetime.
Got the same deal just to have a backup, super happy with it.
shees where can i get that too man
@@broshbrolin2395 it was only a 1 day thing. Happend a couple months back.
@@dundoFPS ahhh i see man, ill get something else i fink
@@broshbrolin2395 Keep an eye on buildapcsales or brickseek. Comes up every so often, but usually for in-store only.
My Orochi came in 2 days ago and I couldn't be happier with it (coming from the original G-Wolves Hati), the smaller shape is so nice and the biggest plus is being able to Beaulo spin my mouse.
BeAuLo SpIn mY MoUsE
@@aimbotbrew297 imagine being that toxic lol sad
@@aimbotbrew297 whats wrong with that?
this is essentially the conclusion I came to as well, the mouse is very good for what you get
hopefully u drop a review on it ! will check it out if so
@@boardzy will be soon, gathering all my thoughts still!
I got my Orochi v2 and had my doubts before getting it. Using it for a couple hours. I can honestly say I’m surprised. Love the coating on it, great stock feet, significantly better weight balancing (i actually put a triple A in the AA slot lul) and nice snappy clicks. For $70. I’m actually going to say its worth it. I did get a G305 Bundle at Walmart for $20 which is a hell of a bargain. But comparing the two. I like the Orochi’s shape better since it does remind me of a MM720 without the ring finger rest. Also sensor positioning one thing i actually kind of noticed, but actually ended up being beneficial for my aim. Overall I am a big fan of this mouse.
I actually really don't like a lot of rechargeable mice, you're back up in seconds and you don't have to charge it. if you buy rechargeable, you just swap them when it dies.
also batterymice usually use a lot more of their juice because they're normally just drain the battery to nothing before you need to replace the batt. also lighter because you can mod the mouse and a lot of these mice can be ran on 2 button cells if you mod them.
if you hate disposable batteries, just buy a large pack of Ni-Mh batteries, and you will fall in love with now fast and simple and cheap it is to just keep a charging dock at your desk and immediately have a brand new battery at your desk any time your mouse or other things die. I went from seeking internally rechargeable devices to AA/AAA devices as soon as I bought them, trust me you won't regret it.
The comparison between the orochi and the g305 is made because there's a good chunk of reviewers who have no Idea what they are talking about.
Thank you boardzy, very cool.
Facts
100% agree. I chose this over the MO Wireless, Viper Ult, Logi Superlight, and a few others. It's amazing for fingertip.
Been using wired G502s my whole life as I was hesitant about the quality of wireless mice. Ordered a
Bought this mouse as a gift for a couple family members a couple years ago when it was on sale and loved it so much I almost wanted to keep it for myself. Insanely good shape for me, super high quality feeling mouse
Thank you for mentioning the razer student discount! Your content slaps 👏👏
Ofc very happy to help
It *slaps*
Boardzy when/if do u think the VMU will drop?
day 5 of asking boardzy when he is going to grow a beard and change his yt and twitch name to beardzy
Badseedtech and hausgaming have too big head start, he needs to invent his own thing.
The dedication of this potato is unrivaled
Your resiliency and bravery led me to get one myself. No regrets whatsoever, thanks unique dude
I really wanna get it but it’s $98 here in uk. Am hoping it goes on sale on Amazon like the other mice, I have no problem paying $70 cause that’s like £50. Don’t really need a new mouse but would be nice to get a good wireless one
70=50
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I bought it for £59 from the razer store with student discount, I'm sure you will know someone who can get you a code from student beans
@@greippuli9166 70 usd is 50 gbp
Definitely going to get this as my next mouse where i live it only costs 50 thats a steal
I honestly prefer it over the superlight honestly. Shape is way better in my opinion.
Happy to see thats what you honestly think man. Honestly if my hands were a bit smaller I might have honestly been able to say the same.
Honestly yes, I Honestly believe the same way. I would honestly perfer the viper mini though.
so many "honestly" here, great community
@@villa540 Honestly, I honestly dislike the viper mini for claw in all honesty.
@@greippuli9166 Thats honestly fine, we have our opinions. Honestly, it is whatever floats ur boat. In all honesty
Crazy how the Orochi V2 goes on sale for about $39 from time to time.
preach queeen 👑✨💅
Damn right
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I prefer battery over integrated battery because I rather replace a battery once a year than have to charge a mouse with a cord every week.
been waiting on this one, especially since I have been using the G305 for years, and wondering if it is worth the upgrade
*Long Review and a Summary Review of the Razer Orochi V2 as of 10/15/21 with a week as my main.*
I come from the Razer Naga Trinity using the 12 button side panel for over 2 years and with about 6 months usage with the 2 button side panel. And with 2 weeks using the G305 lightspeed. I had to redo this review because I took the cover off the mouse and accidentally pressed a button so my comment was gone since I was sent to another page.
*_Summary of my review:_* I have small-medium hands. I prefer a claw/palm grip. The shape of the mouse could have been better, the hump close to the back as it does nothing in its current position and the side groove for the thumb repositioned up to make it easier to press the side buttons. A longer length would have been better. It doesn't have a 2 to 1 ratio. Unsure how much that makes a difference. Buttons are good. The dpi button is hard to press due to the awkward position. It is a lightweight mouse and picking it up to reposition is not difficult but sometimes slightly awkward since I can't find a consistent grip and I keep changing while using it. It has a smooth glide. More so than the 305. I prefer the size of the 305 than the Orochi. Connectivity works pretty well but I have had an issue with the PC/Synapse not recognizing the mouse, replugging in the dongle fixes this. You should use the dongle for gaming but other than that bluetooth works great. The 305 only has the dongle. I like that I can change the scroll up and scroll down of the middle mouse button so they both have a different bind when using hypershift and it's normal bind when not using hypershift so I still have the normal scroll up/down and extra buttons. You can't do that for the 305. Razer has had issues changing profile so I have to manually do it and there are no preset commands in Razer like ghub has for some games. Lint collects a lot in the feet of the Orochi. And the edges of the product information sticker. Overall I do like the mouse and the functionality. I which the shape was a little bit different and the feet didn't collect that much lint. *It is worth the price.* If you use the fingertip grip or the claw then this mouse is for you. I do want to add I used it on bluetooth with my phone and it worked well. It is smaller than the 305.
The feel of it in my hand. I have been using this mouse a week. The claw grip style isn't the best for me even with my small/medium hands. I guess this mouse is more fingertip. I don't like using mouse that way. I guess I do a mix of claw/palm, my ring finger hits the right edge of the right click mouse button and sometimes it would pinch that finger. Doesn't hurt at all, I can just feel the edge of the button and it will slightly squeeze. The mouse is shorter than I would like. Due to my own comfort and RocketJumpNinjas' idea of a 2 to 1 ratio for a mouse. The bump I wish was more towards the back, it being in the middle I feel doesn't do anything. If it was back more then it might have contact with the bottom of my palm close to my wrist, as of now there is a gap between my thumb and the opposite outer edge of my palm. Put your thumb to your pinky, there is a gap there, that is the area I am talking about. The groove for your thumb is comfortable and makes picking up the mouse easy which without, it isn't the easiest so grip tap might work wonders here but I haven't used grip tap before on mice. If the bottom edge of the thumb groove/the thumb groove as a whole was slightly higher, closer to the mouse buttons I might have an easier time using the side buttons and have a nice grip on the mouse. The middle mouse button isn't hard to click but I wish it was a little easier. The scroll wheel up and down is easy to use as are the side buttons. The "dpi" button which I have remapped is easy to press but I have to completely curl my finger inwards to press it. Easy to do but not comfortable or fast. The 305 is easier to pick up given the shape. The sides of the Orochi are easy to get used to but I reposition my hand often in use. I can't find a consistent grip for the mouse.
The weight of the Orochi is pretty good. I have no issues at this weight. I am used to the MMO mouse the Razer Naga Trinity which is about 120 grams or 110(iirc, please look this up in case I am wrong on weight) so switching to the G305 which is 100 didn't feel much different until I did the foil mod. Then I had connectivity issues since the connection wasn't the best using that mod. The 305 was easy to pick up due to the sides curving in. It was pretty odd at first though on the 305. Given the issues I had in my previous paragraph though. The Orochi and the 305 I can pick up the whole mouse for repositioning. As for the Naga I would lift up one side and drag it. It is a heavier mouse and there is difference in weight from the Naga and either of the other two mice assuming you are using the AAA converter mod(the lithium battery as well which the 305 doesn't come with) for the 305 and the lighter battery whether is it the lithium(Orochi comes with) or a AAA. I think it might be slightly back heavy but I might be imagining that. It is a smooth glide. More so than the G305.
As for bluetooth or the dongle. I played a few games on bluetooth and I thought it was my internet or me having a bad aim day. I didn't know I left it on bluetooth mode. After switching it back to the dongle I was hitting more shots. An issue I had when I switched to the dongle from bluetooth a couple times my PC/synapse wouldn't recognize the mouse which means I couldn't use it. Reconnecting the dongle fixed this issue but it happened twice during a buy phase so I couldn't buy weapons. If you are not playing a competitive game, I don't know that you would be able to notice. I played Valorant and Overwatch on bluetooth and I didn't know if it was the mouse being on bluetooth or not but after changing to the dongle I was more effective. A couple times switching from bluetooth to the dongle has made the mouse not be recognized by my PC and Razer Synapse. This has caused me to not buy in the buy phase cause I was reconnecting my mouse and didn't immediately mess with the dongle itself. Replugging in the dongle fixes it. It might be an issue with Valorant. I can switch modes outside of Val on my desktop and the mouse has no issues.
The functionality of the mouse is good. There is no tilt function but you can remap the scroll up and down to something else. I have scroll up and down remapped using hypershift so I have the normal functionality but two added keybinds in games. When switching from bluetooth to the dongle sometimes Razer doesn't recognize the mouse like I have mentioned. I remapped the dpi cycle button since I only use 800 dpi and thus I have another keybind. My hypershift button is the side button which is normally M4, my new M4 is mapped to the dpi button so that I still have it. Having hypershift as that side button makes it easy to press that button and any other button on the mouse with it. Unlike if I used the dpi cycle button as the hypershift key. The software has trouble switching profiles so I have to manually do it a lot. It does recognize a lot of my games. You can add another game like you can in ghub for the G305. Razer will try and find the game for you can show you some files, you can still browse to find it yourself. The G305 has prebuilt commands for the games it recognizes so you don't have to find out what keys the game uses by opening it up. Make sure you select the right executable or the profile won't change. It could say "thegame"win64.exe instead of just "thegame".exe. You need to keep that in mind. You can not rebind the scroll up and scroll down like you can in Razer. Or I would have changed the scroll up and down to something else when using gshift to get two more buttons. That is somewhat of a trade off. If you changed the keybinds in the game when using ghub I think the keybinds on the mouse stay the same if you used the prebuilt commands. If you choose to do the normal mimic the keyboard keys then it won't change with the change in game and you would need to change it in the software which is what you always get with Razer. Only one battery works at a time. You can't fit a AAA and a AA at the same time. It is nice it has a slot for either an AAA or an AA.
The look of the mouse. I couldn't get the black variant except from the Razer store so I went with the white one. The white one is a lint magnet. You can just brush it off so that is fine. Under the mouse at the bottom is another story. The feet are lint magnets as well as the sticker(?) with the extra information on the mouse like the serial number. I prefer the logo on the Razer than the 305. The 305 is black so not so much a lint magnet and there isn't nearly as much lint/crud on the feet or bottom of the 305. The scroll wheel on the 305 does collect some lint. Even my Razer Naga Trinity didn't collect this much lint.
My grip is more like palm grip than a claw. My fingers are more outstretched than the are curled.
any problems like double click?
@@azd25 The only issue I have had is connecting, sometimes you will need to plug it back into the port after initial connection since sometimes synapse won't recognize it or at worst case the mouse will stutter but once unplugged and plugged back in the issue will be fixed and this has not happened often. It always appears right at the beginning, so after turning on your PC or plugging in the USB the issue will show. The clicks have always worked and feel nice. I feel it has been accurate in tracking/flicks and hasn't faltered. It hasn't skipped or anything like that. I haven't noticed double clicks or anything.
I don't look at the price too much as long as it's below 80 USD, that's why I don't think I will ever buy a GPX Superlight even though I think it's actually a good mouse for me.
70 usd dollar for such a versatile mouse is a steal.
Nice video, How’s your day boardzy? 😩
Amazin
Yo man I am getting a artisan mouse pad for fortnite and I want a speedy mouse pad
What's a good one shidenkai? Hien? Please reply I need help lmao
Edit:how mutch does it cost?
In terms of the price check the artisan website lol. Depends on shipping and where ur from. In terms of speed the Raiden and Shidenkai are fastest followed by the Hien/Otsu. Shidenkai wears down over time but then it's essentially a hien. Zero is slowest most control focused pad
@@3ericw ok tysm also the website says there are closed down just to restock
@@3ericw so just after I use the shidenkai for a while it just turns into a hein lmao
@@boon5124 correct. There's like a glass bead coating on the shidenkai that begins to wear off after awhile and you can kind of pull it off and it's a hien underneath. Boardzy made a video about it awhile ago and showed that off
@@3ericw ye I saw that vid just wanted to know how hard is it to peel off aswell
something that you're not taking into consideration is the bad build quality/longevity of razer products overall. I have a MX518 still working, while most of the razer products I have used didn't last more than 2 years...
I know I'm a year late to this comment section. But talking about build quality, the g305 feels like a cheap mouse compared to the orochi, especially the scroll wheel. The build quality is just so much better on the orochi.
Im hesitating between viper ultimate and this orochi , i clawgrip currently using g502 which one do you think is the better option ( hands are 18,11 )
Eve mouse pad review at some point?
Yes, soon. Actually liking it a surprising amount
@@boardzy nice. hausgaming said it actually was kinda insane, except that eve made it
Got one. Have been using it for a month now and all I can say is that it performs to the same level as the artisan zero for me
I purchased this mouse and I think It’s risky shape me as fingertiper wasn’t liked it (maybe cause of small hands idk), sensor lift off as well felt a higher than 1mm, but I admite that, was very precise. I wouldn’t consider that mouse as a safe recommendation.
replacement batteries are superior to built in batteries that is seen in all "premium" mice
no plugging in for charging and even having to bother with the charging cable at all, just switch to your rechargable lithium aaa battery that is already charged up.
headphone vids aside, pretty solid vid
Exactly
I hope I get a response to this question, but im wondering what the best mouse around the 35 - 38 dollar range in 2024. I'm looking at the redragon m619 and the logitech g305 but I feel like both are pretty outdated so lmk if you have any recommendations.
Absolutely confused about why people complain about this. You can have like a fucking container on your desk with batteries in it and whenever you run out, you can replace it. Having 20 batteries will literally last you months if not a year. And it's a lot faster than charging. Are people so lazy that they can't even take off the top shell?
Man I have no idea as you can tell from this vid 😭😭 people just think nonrechargable battery=bad
Also rechargable batteries degrade over time and need to be replaced
@@chromeportal401 I'm not talking about rechargeable ones lul
I have a g305 and was wondering what skats i should get. Everything seems to be out of stock rn
this might be my new upgrade from the g305 that I've had for a few years now. Thanks boradzy!
New mouse pog
Should a battery be seen a good? Like a built in battery will start loosing charge over time and die quicker. Battery will be consistent
in Mexico the g305 is 35 bucks, the g pro x wireless 80 USD and the orochi v2 is still 70 usd, so, no comparision
I wonder if newer g305s comes with higher quality mouse feet and switches? I think mouse feet and switch quality on my G305 could not be better.
Where I live, G304/G305 costs $40 and Orochi V2 costs $80. So, I can't agree with you.
Am I allowed to think differently because I don't own it?
I got a model o wireless recently and now im refunding it because it just doesn't play properly with my style , i cant aim well like i used to with the asus gladius 2 ergo gaming mouse , planning to get this orochi v2 what r ur thoughts ? My hand size is 17.5 cms
Not sure what you mean by "By going the non-rechargeable battery route Razer was able to produce a top-tier mouse with top-tier features and good weight balancing".
That kind of makes it sound like they're only able to sell the mouse with these features for 70$ because it doesn't have an internal battery.
As the Razer rep on the Triple Click Podcast said that the Orochi is "ultimately positioned to be a portable gaming mouse". Meaning, their goal for it was never to have an internal battery, and I'd say by comparing the requirements of the portable version it's quite clear that this isn't about compromise but about design decision.
A portable mouse's shell has to be designed to house and easily replace AA batteries, and for the PCB to accept 1.5v. In the case of the Orochi that means the entire button shell is removable and that the innershell fits batteries. I'd more so assume that Razer invested quite a bit of R&D into making the mouse feel way better than protable mice used to.
If they wanted to make a wireless mouse for stationary setups, they would've been able to reuse designs and components from their other mice that use 3.7v internal lipo batteries, aswell as have an better designed topshell. (seperated buttons, more lightweight (the mouse isn't particularely lightweight for how small it is))
So I'd say making a mouse that targets a different purpose than any of their recent wireless mice doesn't lend itself for it to be cheaper to produce and that the small added costs to having a USB-port and an internal battery, compared to shipping every unit with Energizer batteries, probably wouldn't make a "stationary gaming" version any more expensive.
And I would make the claim, that even if it was 5-10$ more expensive, most people who bought the mouse and post it on like r/mousereview, probably would've gone for the
It makes it sound like that because that is what you would like to think. I’m saying that the reality of the situation is that the mouse uses batteries and still feels amazing. Didn’t bother reading the essay because u seemed to be going off of a flawed analysis
@@boardzy Saying that the mouse is still great even when using batteries just isn't the same as saying the mouse is great because it uses batteries.
If you can spare the time to explain how your statement with the scheme of "by going with X, Y was able to produce Z with top-tier features" does not directly imply that "Z" having "X", is at least partially the reason it does have the top-tier features, I'd be very glad to hear it. Because, to me, there doesn't seem to be a way to factually interpret it otherwise.
And the short form of my essay about the mouse is, that making it a version with an internal lipo battery and a charging port shouldn't have changed the price much, if at all, and that version would've been better suited for the majority of customers I've heard of buying the mouse.
The critism I'd like to give you, is that you made a video asking why companies don't keep striving for "the perfect prodcut", but now you're fine with a mouse featuring a battery implementation that's worse for the "stationary gamers" like yourself you mainly rate products for, and that's not inline with that opinion.
Anyone's free to change their opinions ofc tho.
@@MehKore у съемной батареи есть неоспоримое качество, она не деградирует со временем, то есть и через 5 лет мышка технически будет в порядке, в отличии от мыши на аккумуляторе, которую нужно заряжать каждые 40-60 часов, тут же вы на 450 часов забываете об этом, а в последствии двумя движениями решаете проблему еще на 450 часов, надеюсь посыл понятен .
after this mouse, do u think it is a top 5 mouse for gaming or not? I am talking about esports kind of gaming.
Wireless mouse who use AA battery is in better, imo. I mean, why go wireless in the first place if you still need to clutter your desk with cables for charging the mouse? And while charging the mouse, you're still essentially using a wired mouse. So the solution? get a swappable battery. And if you want, you can get rechargeable AA battery with type C or micro USB plug. That'll save some battery cost and more environmentally friendly if you're into that.
Heys could you tell me the dpi steps for this orochi v2? The only reason I don’t use the viper mini is because they don’t have dpi steps of 50. I’m using 450 dpi and it’s important to me.
U can change it to 450 on the software for viper mini and orichi
@@sleadi.6826 no you cant.
You’ve convinced me king. Ordered one even though I’ve got the GPX super light recently.
Dude. This mouse is sick and anyone who disagrees without trying it is out of their mind. I own like 20 mice and this is like the only one I don't have a list of things I hate about it.
i have huge hands and i use fingertip/palm grip should i get this?
Wait, people hate this mouse? For $70 this is pretty good
Yeah the amount of times I’ve seen it get called an overpriced g305 is kind of insane
Is that just a white color way shindekai or did they change it at all?
yeah its a white xsoft shidenkai, review soon
I got my Orochi v2 from amazon for only $35 a couple days ago, I am very satisfied!
Bro what should i pick orochi v2 or deathadder v2x shifting frol viper mini want a reliable moise coz my viper mini scroll is drifting scrolling on its own super annoying
Bought G305/G304 for $40 + mods around $10+ (Tiger ICE Mouse feet, Energizer lithium then the adapter) here in the Philippines.. the Orochi here is $70+ so what do you think about the deal I made?
ill put in in simple terms... The orochi V2 is plugged into his pc and he is using it, the 305 is deadweight
The Orochi V2 is $28 on Amazon right now. I don’t think that can be beat
Yup, picked up the Orochi V2 black striker from bestbuy for same price. $27.99 amazing deal! Sadly price is back up to $70 now.
@@greatwolf. looks like they were matching prices which is great! For $28 it’s definitely hard to beat. I should’ve picked up 2!
Hey friend, nice video.
I ordered the orochi v2, but im a bit worried it will be too smal for my 21cm hands, i was thinking about orochi v2 or logitech g pro superlight, do you think i made a good choice for a fingertip grip user?
Im worried that my fingers will stay too much close to each other since it's a really small mouse :/.
But i trusted your review and i ordered ahaha.
My current mouse is Razer Viper normal version, but i was tempted
Any issues with double-clicking with these switches? Had the G Pro before, but double-clicking issues were so bad I stopped using it. Also, do you think the Viper Ultimate is worth it with the new $90 price tag?
Question marks popping in my head after hearing '72 grams is considered heavy for some people' while I'm here using a g502 with all weights inside. What am I missing guys?
rjn goes into details with mouse weight in his finalmouse starlight review, you could check it out and decide if it will make sense for you
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funny thing...you can buy the best rechargeable batteries. the moment one dies it will take you 2 seconds to switch to a fully charge battery and than you put the other to charge.
Bro remember i said im buying this mouse in last video because it looks cool ? Well it definetly is, it arrived super quick and feels good to use. Happy with it 😁
If you do a triple a battery with tin foil in the double a slot, does that fix the weight balancing for only like a gram or two more compared to putting it in the triple a slot?
white ver hasn't arrived on my country yet sadly, still waiting but rly looking forward for my next purchase. good comparison boardzy, very based
Battery is so nice, only downside is possibly weight distribution, aside from that it's the same as rechargeable.
they address the weight distribution problem, did u watch the vid?
@@boardzy Im talking in general the only possible downside of battery over rechargeable, not this specific mouse. At least on my g305 its a small issue for me
My G305 used about 16 hours a day only requires a battery swap once every 3 months. So... screw rechargeable.
How do you feel about people replacing their superlight's with the orochi
Idk how many people are doing that, bet most of them go back
i love how razor and logitech just copy each other
I'm a G305 user and I'm looking for lighter options that aren't GPXs and I want egg shape so maybe Orochi V2 is what I should be looking for
Orochi is on sale rn for like 35. Fantech aria is also something you can look at. If you get either please lmk! Don't have anything wrong with my 305 but definitely curious on other people's opinion on similar ish shapes
Next video u should confirm if the AAA battery reAly makes the orochi feel unbalanced been seeing that a bit on Twitter and a couple of reviews can u confirm ?
It does
I prefer removable batteries anyways because I just use my own rechargeable batteries which last longer and can just be easily swapped out if they ever die.
How’s that mousepad working? Which artisan is that?
Hi boardzy, which do you feel is faster, the stock Orochi feet or the G305 corepads? Thanks!
g305 + battery mod + mouse switch replacement with huano blue shell white dot (or kaihl gm 8.0, gm4.0 etc since the switch cost about the same)+ new glide still cost less than orochi v2 in my country. so i think if you are willing to mod or you are thinkerer and like to mod ur mouse g305 is the way to go and its easier on the wallet
and since those crappy omron switches just die on me for no reason i am forced to replace it with huano blue shell white dot and it has been fantastic, looking forward to get a better glide soon
I picked up the Orochi for 45 dollars and I love it more than any mouse Ive ever used. Never going wired again
Same
any problem like double click?
@@azd25 it has kailh 4.0s, not really known for double clicking. It's omrons that are really really bad and double click very fast
What mousepad is this? nice vid
i used viper mini and im planing to change to orochi will i find i uncomfortable?
i just notices boardzy's channel banner... mind i ask who is advertising the "code boardzy" .. just for research purposes
You guys are so lucky, where i live the orochi cost more than double the price of the g305. For most of the world, they arent comparable because they belong to different price tiers.
Can u try these with Ni-MH batteries? Im wondering how the battery life compares to lithium because i mostly use rechargable batteries
Razer Orochi v2 Lift Of Distance ? 1,2,3 mm?
Honestly torn between the V2, superlight and zys rail. I got fairly big hands, currently using the Hati s original. I play Fortnite and other fps games what mouse would you Guys recommend?
Completely, unrelated. But how do you clean that white mousepad of yours? Do you also do the lysol and wipe on that like in your previous video? Thanks, boardzy!
Haven’t had to clean it yet, would prob do the same
What’s the best and cheapest lightweight gaming mouse ??? Help
What mouse pad are you using in the video?
Comparing the Razer Orochi v2 to the g305 is like comparing a Tesla Model S to a Volvo 240.
Do people not know what rechargeable battery packs are?????????
Should I go for the orochi v2 or viper ultimate
ur the most straight forward - intelligent mouse reviewer
I see a lor of aimers using the g pro hero (cablet g305) why?
For the price range, would you grab this or an XM1R?
Depends on hand size and grip
The only thing that slightly puts me off from buying this mouse is the fact that you have to use it with batteries, I would have preferred it to be rechargeable because I hate having to go and buy batteries tbh
it's kind of a dumb question but does the paint on the mercury changes the texture of the mouse ? (makes it more rubbery or slippery)
should I get the super light or orochi? I play palm claw
Superlight unless very small hands assuming u don’t care about budget and want the best mouse
@@boardzy oh ok thx
You can get even better weight and balance than stock by using a AAA battery with an adapter in the AA slot instead of putting the AAA in the back slot
when i did this is totally messed with the way the glide felt on some pads, stock 72 has felt the best but yeah people can definitely experiment however they want
@@boardzy that’s really interesting that the weight can have that effect. I’m using a regular G-SR and it goes super smooth on it with that setup
Ordered mine and will be here in 2 days
Nice
@@u_s_e_rname very
which would u recommend then, the m800 or the razer orochi v2?
m800 is a budget mouse with a bigger footprint
Boardzy can you tell me that the GPW SL is overpriced?
It is expsensive but its the best, you have to decide for yourself if its worth for you
@@hidden4u983 agree, i paid the retail price for mine and been using as my "main" for like 6 months now, id say thats worth it
@@boardzy holy shit boardzy just liked my comment
boardzy what are you thoughts on dasani water
Used 303 till death now 305 and have ordered the v2 should be interesting. The thumb grip is looking like a good time
I have the mouse and it is very different it is in the realm of probably diddling a few relatives of the 303 and 305 selective breeding and came out good
Should I use the stock battery or get the triple a?
I dont know .. 80€ at Germany and 5-10€ for Batteries :/ seems fine but a bit expensive at the same time. I would like to Try hat Mice , i have the G305 and now the Xm1r but smaller mice seems faster for me.