Is Ink Master Fake? | Ink Master Top Secrets Revealed
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Is ink master fake? Let's find out today! There's a lot of claims of ink master being fake online with fans claiming it's scripted. Today we are going over all the secrets that have been spilled about ink master in the 13 seasons ink master has been on air. So let's find out - is ink master fake or not?
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I personally hated the human canvas jury part. It made ppl feel bad about this new permanent thing they got on their skin, and you can tell that some of them were visibly upset when their piece got trashed. Ultimately, a tattoo is art and subjective. If the canvas likes it, no one should tell them otherwise. Then the judges get to judge on technique, which is objective
Same. I hated the one with the daughter who got a portrait of her mom with too many wrinkles. They could have easily given criticism without calling her "leatherface." It was so sad because they actually liked it.
I don't think technique is subjectove because there is a right and wrong way to do things, but I did think the human canvas jury was trash. Trash in a good way because I liked the chaos.
Honestly I think the canvas jury should talk about only the tattoos that the tattoed canvas didnt like.
"If the canvas likes it, no one should tell them otherwise. "
No one should tell tehm not to like their tattoo, sure. But they can definitely be told how much their tattoo (and artist) sucked at this thing u got for free.
@@conansredbowtie broo right!! i was gonna comment that. they are sooo mean :/ it’s shocking why say that to someone’s MOM😭😭 imagine if they said it to their mom
i binge ink master compliations all the time, but something that just annoys me is that the judges are so biased and unnecessarily cruel all the time. hearing how some of the canvases had a postive experience is a good kind of surprising tho. 🤫
Agreed! I just discovered the show and bunged a ton tonight, and the one thing I noticed was SO MUCH BIAS!
All season are on Paramount Plus so if you wanna binge that again
My immediate thought is of that one season where they kicked off the guy who didn't have tats. Like they railed him HARD about it. So he and some of the people kind of laughed and drew all over him in sharpie, and the judges lost their shit.
Like sorry if you can dish it but can't take it?
I'm glad it wasn't as dramatic in person as it was on the show. I do feel bad for the people who thought they loved their tats to get eviscerated on tv though.
I've noticed that as well, but I think in the later seasons, like Season 8-9 and on, judges tried to at least give some positive words of encouragement to eliminated artists (especially if the artists were eliminated based on tiny details or technicalities, and not on shitty tattoos). I thought it was a positive change. In the earlier seasons, they were absolutely brutal, and often ridiculous in their critiques (i.e. when they sent Nick home in Season 2, after dealing with that nightmare of canvas Litza).
@@GlowingMember THAT WAS SO DUMB HAHAHAHA they were like....i cant believe youve DISRESPECTED THE TRADITION OF TATTOOING LIKE THIS !
THIS IS A MOCKERY 😑😑😑😑😑
The most fake thing I've noticed is how shook the artists act every time they're told the challenge of the day. It seems like every style, every body part, every theme is apparently "the worst".
Dave: In today's challenge, you are to tattoo...
Everyone: *gasp*
Dave: Oh, and one more thing... you must tattoo...
*SUSPENSE*
Dave: ... on skin!!!
Everyone: *gasp intensifies*
Today you need to tattoo.... A skull.... "Oh man, skulls are so hard, you need to get it just right or you'll lose"
Today you need to tattoo, an arm... And not just an arm, it will be the right arm.... "Damn man, right arms are extremely difficult to tattoo, they are covered with skin" "I may be going home today"
I watched 3 episodes (never seen a show before) and i already saw thid yeah. You must tattoo (insert basic tattoo) GASPPPP
Wait for it...wait for it... Pan to all their dramatic whispering to each other about how crazy the challenge is, and have no clue what their going to do! Yeah, agreed... Super corny.
I actually loved the "acid cat " in the beginning of the video.
My biggest issue with Ink Master was how inconsistent the judges were. Some episodes they specifically judged who went home solely based on the particular piece presented in that challenge and in others they went off of their "report cards"
I agree I thought the acid cat was awesome
I liked acid cat, but I wonder what it looked like healed, or even a year down the line?
That is one of the ugliest tattoos made by one of if not the worst artist to ever appear on ink masters
Though I agree, to some fairness I think when it comes to art there does have to be some flexibility involved on a case by case.
For instance when the tattoo is well-applied but unappealing vs. poorly applied, but appealing from afar. I get as tattoo-artists Peck and Nunez know what to look for, but the average person probably doesn't care/know and just wants a good looking tattoo.
One thing I do like about Nunez is that he's typically unyielding when it comes to cuts and excessive trauma.
It would awesome if they had a rubric for judging and maybe went by a point system
So that you wouldn’t have somebody doing consistently well booted for one mistake, and still be consistent
My reason for loving the show is the artistry. Whether there's drama or not, whether it's scripted or not, I'm simply amazed by what these artists could do with needles.
Same, as an artist myself (though drawing not tattooing) I mainly watch the show from an artist point of view, and I really like how they give a focus on a different skill each week, from clean lines, to overall aesthetic, or color pallet, etc. whatever else the art is real.
Exactly I think this woke female just wants comments & 👍 but I appreciate what you said about the art & had to give you a big 👍
Exactly! Who cares about the drama and what ever. I just wanna see the tattoos and see who's great and who's the best!
I just fast forward through the drama to watch the challenges be given and then to see what each artist did with it. A lot of shows that are set up like this are more entertaining if you skip the bs drama filler.
Best comment, I feel the exact same.
My biggest complaint was the time the judges voted an artist off based on the fact that he,himself didn't have tattoos.
Just finished that season today (S2). That’s not why he was voted off. But I do think it was dumb for the judges to even bring it up at all.
I totally agree with the artist not having tattoos! Don’t see a reason why the judges picked on him for not having tattoos! He was a good artist!
That's like telling a veterinarian that he's a terrible animal doctor because he doesn't own any pets. Apart from the art, the show is complete BS.
When I got my first tattoo I noticed the artist didn't have any and he mentioned that often other artists at tattoo conventions and events judged him as if that meant he was not good enough so as an act of defiance he decided not to have any, because having them doesn't prove how good of a tattoo artist you are, especially because they wouldn't be done by the artist themselves anyway. I thought that was pretty badass of him 😎 😅
In season 3 Craig got unfairly dropped from the competition for his pinup tattoo because the judges found it "unappealing." I thought the tattoo looked like the quality was good and they did not point out any flaws in that tattoo, imo the judges were biased because it was more sexual than other pinups (as per his canvas's request) and the subject of the pinup was a black woman. There were tattoos with technical flaws that got to stay that day.
i also hated how back in season 6 like every tattoo got him sent to the bottom like most of the stuff he did was really good- there should've def had other artists down there that got away with it
@@jamiegreenberg8476 Ooooh, I haven't seen season 6 yet, that sounds terrible but at least he got more air time and I hope he benefitted from it.
Yesss!
We just finished that season ... Craig got screwed and was super talented
Craig was by far my favorite artist I was so mad when he got booted!
The mist hilarious part of the show is calling a person a canvas. No tattooist does that. They're clients. It's almost as ridiculous as how seriously Dave took himself for 80% of the show.
I honestly think the reason why they call the person a canvas is because they are literally putting art on the person's body just like an artist puts art on a canvas. I understand that they are clients but their body is the canvas.
@@miguelsilva3867 Well, sure. That’s certainly why they say it; but it reduces a human being to a patch of cloth.
I think the writers thought it was edgy and went with it. It’s silly IMO.
🤫 Inkmaster was my first exposure to tattoos, and while it didn't prepare me for walking into a tattoo studio, it did make me look out for things like steady lines when picking my artist. So there's some good in there, but mostly bad to me.
For example, I think back to how many artists on there would use dark skinned canvasses as a strategy to take another artist down/complain about dark skin and that part makes me cringe so much.
Yess same ! That’s a good point when they bring the show back they gotta loose that shitty mindset!
Yeah, the sad thing about this is there are lots of tattoo artists who won’t tattoo people with darker skin or if they do they’ll say they only do black & gray work on people with darker skin.
I feel a new season should have the same type of canvas for everyone, either all dark, all old all big, depending on the challenge, to eliminate the concept of using canvas types against each other, I always hated that concept, it is messed up for the canvasses, but also removes an equal battleground.
@@Demahevans yeah, like I understand there are different color saturations that work better on different skin colors but like… challenge yourself mate? You’re losing a massive portion of possible clients due to an unwillingness to learn. Adapt to the medium, don’t shun it entirely.
@@thedestroyasystem it's a problem of practice. You don't want to do it because you haven't practiced on it before. And you don't really want to be practicing on customers. So you don't get practice and never learn.
There are finally starting to be some tattoo practice products that are in darker shades. Many people learned tattooing on pig skin, which is definitely on the pale side. I'm hoping this trend changes and these practice products become more affordable and widely available.
I will say though, while what Oliver Peck did was disgusting and it was absolutely right to fire him, I never noticed any racism on the show (please correct me if I'm wrong I haven't seen every episode). However, in multiple instances, the judges are extremely sexist and I find it very ironic that they've decided to censor Peck but not the open sexism.
If you haven't seen it, in one episode they heavily critiqued an artist for an amazing tattoo. Why didn't they like it? Because apparently it wasn't feminine enough and made the female canvas "less cute."
There’s definitely racism. People would refuse to even tattoo olive skin because they weren’t a “good canvas”, let alone darker skin.
@@NuancedNancy oh yes, I meant racism from the judges. But definitely, it was painful how some artists would refuse to tattoo POC because "it's harder."
@@NuancedNancy wtf? that's not racism, If you would know how to draw and i would make you choose between a grey paper or white, what would u prefer? That is snowflake idiotic and destructive behavior. All tattoo artists prefer lighter skin, lol, you just called all of them racists.
I've definitely noticed a few iffy scenarios when it came to subject matter as well as skintone. Referring to anything Native American related (which usually shouldn't even be tattooed imo considering its usually on white women lol) as "Indian" has made me cringe and skip massive segments.
@@baurdica Having white paper is definitely not a requirement to make good art, and if you can only affectively work on white paper, that speaks to your skill as an artist. When a tattoo ARTIST rejects someone who has darker skin, it makes it clear that they just can't be bothered to learn how to tattoo anyone who isn't white. Which is pretty racist.
My friend and tattoo artist was on an episode of Ink Master: Angels.
According to him, the producer you mentioned is exactly all the things pointed out in this video. She wanted my friend, who was in a flood that almost killed him, to lie and say it was in hurricane Harvey for added drama. My friend refused, angrily because he had friends and family that had lost so much in hurricane Harvey, and refused to diminish their stories or the stories of others by lying on it.
Once he refused to do what the show told him to do, he said that the producer and the "angels" started acting completely different towards him, yet edited the show to make him look like a hot head about being critiqued, when in reality he was pissed because they kept trying to force him to say he almost died in hurricane Harvey.
He walked out on the show. It didn't go over well.
That’s so disrespectful. He had every right to say no to lying about something so impacting and actually traumatizing to people.
I’m disgusted they would try to enforce that and think it was fine cause they just want drama.
I don’t think the show would completely prepare somebody to get tattooed, but I do think it provides a little bit of insight. I got tattooed by an artist that was on Ink Master and they weren’t all what the show portrayed them to be (in a good way!). 🤫
Nice wow that’s interesting !!
omg really?? Who was it if it's ok to ask? I'm happy you had a great experience! :O I've heard that Chris Nunez the judge..has a reputation he can't back up with his tattoos, they're not as great as you'd expect sadly :P
Can you say who tattooed you?
The show isn’t designed to prepare you to get inked
Who tattooed you?!?
The show was also incredibly sexist. The judges were way harder on women, especially the super attractive ones and had expectations that could never be met, let alone in that situation. It was so bad that it made me uncomfortable enough to stop watching. Another issue I had was the editing. During the judging portion, they would constantly cut to one of the other contestants making a disgusted or mean face when someone else was being judged and you knew those reaction shots were really from some other point in time. It was just edited to portray this animosity and hatred that probably wasn't really there.
I've only watched the clip shows on youtube, but dear god do I hate the constant cuts to head shaking, and the "this tattoo isn't feminine enough for a woman." Ughhhhh
@@luna-p Yep. I remember them saying that a lot. So much of it had that bullshit "women are weak, fragile and only want soft delicate tattoos" stereotype. I know there were also at least a couple times where they didn't like a tattoo of a women an artist did because she didn't have big enough tits in the tattoo. It was gross as hell. I'm a guy so I've never had to deal with that kind of garbage and I can't imagine how angry and uncomfortable it must make women.
@@joshs2734 If I had an artist tell me a tattoo or its placement wasn't pretty or feminine enough, I'd tell them to shove their tattoo needles up their ass and walk right the fuck out. That shit is maddening.
omg, i thought i was the only one who noticed that thing about the expressions, it's so stupid when they put other contestant's faces nodding or making disgusting faces when you can clearly see in the background that they are standing absolutely expressionless. i got very pissed off when they where judging blindly the tattoos and i think it was Chris who said "just by the color palette i can tell it was a woman" and no it wasn't you idiot. Also there was a tattoo of a king and a queen's side profile and the queen's side profile was gorgeous and the tattoo too, and Chris said that the tattoo was ugly because the side profile of the queen was flat (it wasn't, was a very antique bone structure) i believe he thinks that all women should be Megan Foxes ????
@@alessakim4857 Yep, exactly. Their facial expressions are constantly changing between shots since they're just picking and choosing various moments in time, then using selective editing to make up a narrative of strife between people that isn't there. I actually do remember that moment you're talking about. Chris was the worst with the misogynistic criticisms. The show totally gave this idea that women are supposed to be the big tits, skinny, tiny waist, dainty, fragile housewives and it really upset me. I think it was a bad thing for young women who want to get into the tattoo field to see. But, sadly, that is something that women have to deal with in almost every industry. I'm glad I don't have to put up with that being a guy, but I just hate the fact that it's how society is.
I think what annoys me most about the judges on ink master is that they don’t take client requests into account for some of the tattoo choices. They just expect the artists to just Jedi mind trick everyone out of all their choices and it’s annoying.
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True, while I agree some responsibility is on the artist to express why something might not look right for the placement + size + style combinations but ultimately the canvas are the ones having to carry it so what they want is what they want. Sometimes the judges go way overboard with what they think looks " cool " or " creative " as opposed to what's technically sound work.
At least with other shows, like all the Gordan Ramsay cooking shows, even when the dish isn't plated as they wanted, they still acknowledge good technique in ingredients and flavors. Not to mention they also routinely actually demonstrate their own skills to not only prove they know what they are doing but also proof that the things they ask of each contestant is doable for those with the ability.
I've not once seen one of these " master " artists throw down for fun during a challenge tattoo sessions under the same time constraints to prove that they not only can but that what they preach makes sense.
I was a human canvas on season 12 . we filmed from 9 - 9pm and it is true about the judges are told what to say. theres like cue cards behind the cameras. in my experience, the artists did only have 6 hours to complete the challenge. im a bit shocked when i watched the episode because someone actually walked out.. I guess the tattoo looked complete enough ( i wont say who it was) and it wasnt included in the ep. In my experience, my artist was incredibly nice and we talked about anything really- and they provided snack and water and drinks, and even pizza after a long session. My throat was a bit sore and it was a bit hard to talk and they made me repeat my lines twice which was kinda embarrassing. they did tell us what to say really, just to shout out the names under the skull and a brief description of what we wanted. The producers kept telling us though " your design was chosen because it is doable, if the artist tries to change your mind do not let them - theyre here for a reason and can do what you asked." thats probably what stood out to me the most because in hindsight thats what you see when a canvas and artist lash out at each other... its because they told us to not back down on our design LOL. It was a fun experience overall. I love my tattoo and thankful i have a great one.
That's crazy I'm currently on season 12 and almost finished! Who tattooed you and what did you get ?
I can definitely believe that the judges don’t say what they want. I just finished season 3 & 4 and sometimes they would say tattoos with shitty linework were so good even though people like me with untrained eyes can clearly see they’re not. It annoyed the shit out of me.
Or they’d be overtly harsh about a tattoo that clearly isn’t that bad.
THIS! Especially season 4. I just watched it and there were so many times I was like “??? Wtf is this” and then it would win best tattoo of the day?? Or they’d critique tf out of one artist and not someone else and I would be like “uhhhhh I would much rather have the tat you critiqued the fuck out of”Really thought I was losing my mind watching season 4 because all they did was tell Scott he was the best and then denied favoritism on the finale and I was like o__O ok but you literally favored him the whole season?? lmao
It is a federal crime to rig the results of talent gameshows, but reality TV hasn't really faced this law except for quiz shows, so I don't know whether producers are really concerned about it
It may have to do with how a company sells itself. Fox news should be getting a lot of legal issues but they rebranded to an entertainment network. If they brand themselves as reality tv over gameshow then that may jump through some legal loopholes.
Interestingly enough, Survivor is purposely never actually referred to as a gameshow by CBS and production. Some people believe it’s exactly for this reason that they choose to avoid “gameshow “ as a term for referring to the show
The one thing I remember the most was when Kyle Dunbar called out the favoritism- aka why Tatu Baby stayed as long as she did.
I remember when he was fighting Chris Nunez in Season 4. I was like oh damn.
I did not completely understand why he was so made until the season 4 Statue of Liberty flash challenge when the judges loved Scott’s clearly flawed work. Even I could tell it was bad but the judges were super lenient...
I wish Kyle had been treated better, he got a bad edit and seriously a passionate person.
@@lone6718 Totally agree with you. It's obvious he's one of those people who wears his heart on his sleeve, I could see in his eyes he was a decent person and that's something you cant edit.
Kyle isn’t so great. Got tattooed by him once at BTC, and he was pretty awful. Just as racist, sexist as many of the shows other artists.
I just know the producers picking the canvases see crazy in their eyes and let them through for the drama sometimes, there’s no way they actually thought some of these people could survive the show 🤫
Yeah true !! They probably did
I know a previous canvas from one of the early seasons. He said he was expecting to be told how to act, etc but no, production didn’t really do that. What they DID do was if a canvas ended up displeased with the work they encouraged or kinda egged them on to get more upset and be more vocal about it. If you were unhappy a bit, they wanted you to amp that up to mad. That kinda thing.
There have been moments where I’ve seen an uncomfortable canvas and then they’ll say something seemingly a little out of character and I’ll be like, “I bet a producer made them say that” 😂
I would love to see an interview with either Dave Navarro or Chris Núñez where they honestly talk about Ink Master
Dave Navarro needs to stick to playing the guitar. Seeing him live with Jane's addiction he's on fire. On ink masters he just sounds like a fool. And he has tons of really shitty tattooes
Nah Chris is a dick
One of the artists that was on ink master tattooed me a bit after he was on the show. According to the show and as seen during that episode he supposedly wasn’t good enough to continue.
The artist however says that he decided to leave because he was told to start an argument with his canvas to bump up the drama of the show. The producers literally told him to start drama just because. But since they obviously couldn’t just randomly have him leave they decided to pretend his work wasn’t good enough.
🤫Ink Master is fun to watch, with a critical mind. I always go in knowing it's not a good representation of real tattoo experiences and that it's of course a reality show, so over dramatised. But as long as you're aware of that it's great fun to watch!
Thats my same headspace whenever i watch it and i have loads of fun. I just assume its all fake.
Oh one hundred percent. Anyone watching "reality" tv and expecting it to be real is fooling themselves. I watched it for the art and because I like to have trash running in the background while I draw. That's pretty much it.
I hate the fake reactions they show on the artists faces when the judges are criticizing. The reactions most of the time are definitely from different timelines.
I often watch without sound. The art is far more interesting than the drama which I recognize is the opposite of why people watch any reality t.v. I would be over the moon if the show went to 70% art and 30% people without the screaming and other over-the-top crap. Thank you for a very sober look at Ink Master.
yeah i watch bc i Like the art bt i aLso need noise on for anxiety reasons and when theyre Like working and explaining n working together n shit it's cool
Then the reality TV shit kicks in and trashes it
You know what, I will try it. Ty for the idea :)
Yes! Exactly!
I would also love like a Great British Bake Off version of InkMaster. Something really chill where everyone is having a good time just making really cool art to put on people. I would watch that shit forever.
This is a brilliant idea
See the problem is you don't know how to watch Ink Master . You fast forward through all the ego maniacs talking, and you just watch the tattooing and the critique so you see all the tattoos, then its on to the next episode where you see who got kicked off last episode because their not there anymore, and thats how you watch Ink Master!
That’s what I do! 😂😂
Yep!
Ink master is a pretty sexist and colorist show. I wish they'd let it die and create an entirely new show with better judges that paid more respect to the artists and canvases.
This is why Forged in Fire is such a breath of fresh air in the reality TV genre: they don't try to manufacture drama -- the smiths already have enough drama trying to make metal literally bend to their will -- so you don't get that. Even the most competitive contestants are respectful to each other, and show genuine delight at seeing their opponents' weapons perform well.
In an industry that is all about manufactured drama, having none of it at all just seems more real.
There were often beautiful tattoos and methodologies like Pony Wave’s unfinished rose (which looked rad unfinished anyway) and Kevin Laroy’s penchant for no line work that got bashed while lesser talented people got to stay really bothered me about the show. It showed favoritism, a lack of consistency and transparency.
I disagree with you the judges show favoritism and their lack of fair competition all the time. the artist would follow the challenge to the detail only to have their work judged poorly because of some other factor or past tattoos. The flash challenges are jokes, and shows the judges lack of integrity.
Dave Navarro isn’t a tattoo artist he’s the part of the judges that fulfills the tattoo enthusiast role.
i believe both tyler and jessa. i think it’s clear the show was super scripted between seasons 3-6 and was probably reworked to be more *directed* rather than scripted. that is, the producers would probably tell people “hey go talk to so and so about this” as opposed to “say this now.” by season 13, i think they knew they could go with the former because people had been seeing through the scripted bs in the earlier seasons.
I went to Jimmy Snaz’s tattoo shop in Salem, and he was a super chill dude. Everyone in the shop was totally friendly, and professional. Going back in May!
i binge inkmaster, i think it's so fun and i learn a lot about different styles and requirements for a good tattoo. however, the amount of black/dark skinned canvases on that show is basically nonexistent, and while people can argue that this is to make for an even playing field, i will have to remind them that this show does not care even in the slightest about whether you are good or bad at a specific style of tattooing. the whole point of the show is to put artists out of their comfort zone and make them show how they can be, as celle said, a master of all trades. so why do they refuse to tattoo dark skin? you cannot be a master of inking if you cannot ink everyone - not just exclusively white skin. these people may be able to switch up their style a lot, but the show is not letting them are not inclusive at all. (:
in one episode there was an artist who explicitly stated that he refused to tattoo dark skin. i had to pause the video i was not sure i had heard correctly.
What's sad is that the "dark" canvases they had on ink master weren't even that dark... And when some of the artists actually got a dark-skinned person to tattoo, they just went on and on about how they don't like tattooing dark skin and just kept on complaining. It's mad disrespectful, imagine being one of those canvases hearing someone who's about to tattoo you say that.
I think what I hated most about ink master was the sexist comments. I remember the one season Jimmi got sent home because of his mermaid tattoo. His mermaid tattoo was better than Amanda’s but they were just crapping all over the fact that the mermaid didn’t look feminine and “didn’t have the right curves”. It was a muscular mermaid but it was very realistic while the other tattoo had literally missing limbs. I gagged when they kept butchering his tattoo because of how it wasn’t “feminine”. Those were creepy and messed up comments.
I got my first tattoo after watching a few seasons of the show and it really wasn’t the same. The canvas reaction to pain was worse than mine and the environment was so not hostile. Everyone was friendly and my tattoo artist wasn’t picky about the design
The show is definitely dramatized. The craziest story my artist told me was when she saw a client with a terrible scratcher sleeve. These stories about clients oding in the bathroom, getting happy endings, or coming in intoxicated would not fly in a lot of tattoo parlors, even the city ones (except maybe the largest cities like Las Vegas, LA and NY) , here in the States. I cannot speak for other nations.
Yeah I definitely don’t think the show prepares people for what it’s actually like to be tattooed. The environment on the show seems pretty intimidating and chaotic whereas that’s most likely not going to be someone’s experience at a tattoo shop. (At least that hasn’t been my experience)
I always think about the season where a guy got dropped basically just for not having tattoos. Like, jesus.
That's stupid
That is ridiculous. Like how would someone having tattoos demonstrate anything about them as an artist? Even if they design it, ultimately someone else would do the actual tattoo. Not having tattoos isn't a sign of a bad artist, its just a sign of not yet finding what they want to commit to yet. I'm 43 and love tattoos. I've wanted one as long as I can remember but I just haven't quite found the right thing yet. When I do, I'll get it. Even if I'm 60. That is, if someone is still willing to do it on my wrinkly old ass lol
"She's the most miserable person in the world." Umm...Tyler you worked under a man who choked his 13 year old daughter, you wanna rethink who's the most miserable person in the world?
Excuse me WHAT
Wait, for real?
@@PoptartParasol Yes Chris (a Marine) who mocked someone having a panic attack is a giant scumbag to the surprise of no one
My biggest pet peeve is how the show calls the people getting tattooed “canvases” they are not canvases, they are clients. I get that they aren’t paying, but they are not a canvas, they are a person! Part of the job of a tattoo artist is doing art on a person, and what that person wants.
No they are canvases, if they were clients they’d be in a shop paying the artist. They sold their skin.
@@Supersquishyawesomeness they’re not getting paid. Yes they’re getting a free tattoo, but it’s still a tattoo. They have to wear it forever, so no they are not a canvas, they are a person
@@juhlsghouls it's not that deep lmao
I thought that was just the factually correct term, because of this show. But I dont really care much about their exact wording
why should one care about the wording on this specific topic. calling them "clients" I guess would cause some uproar from fans later on, as in if someone gets a bad tattoo they'd be ba all ofer it saying they got screwed over and then there would be some legal stuff also. Imho calling them canvas sounds cool and and does not seem demeaning at all. Some people just get offended over any little meaningless thing...
I don't like how ppl focus so much on whether the show is real or not, I'm sure many ppl enjoy it the way it is, at the end of the day the tattoos are real, and despite what the judges say, you the viewer get to decide if you like them or not.
I wish there was more tasteful depictions of tattooing in the media. Grace neutral and Vice have released some short documentaries about tattooing that are definitely more accurate and worth checking out! I just wish more people understood that tattooing is a legitimate artform and craft, with its own unique history. I mean reality TV I think has helped create more social acceptance around tattooing. But, I still think it deserves a little more intellectual analysis than it's received.
There’s a RUclips Channel called Inked that I’d definitely recommend.
@@shanleecaulfield7064 inked??? NOOO dude, they're constantly really problematic. First, they spotlight so many InkMaster contestants, and then top it off with these Q&As or Reaction videos that just revolve around the artists making fun of clients. The tattoo artists just end up looking so elitist, and like unprofessional judgemental douchebags. Can't stand their promo of Bang Bang tattoo, or these overpriced studios who's fame required being obnoxious on reality TV.
@@ophilianecr look I understand what you’re saying. There are things I don’t like about Inked. I don’t like Bang Bang and I don’t like their promotion of him, but there are other tattoo artists they’ve had on there that I do really like. I also just enjoy seeing how they all think differently. 🤷🏻♀️
I also really enjoy Treacle Tatts videos and have learned a lot from them. 🙂
I know this is an old comment, but I just saw it and it reminded me about Markus Kuhn's Gypsy Gentleman videos. I think he only made a few since they didn't get so many views (I kind of think they were a bit ahead of their time given how many views less interesting tattoo videos get now), but I thought they were great. You can still find them on RUclips.
I watched ink master only before I got my tattoos, and it prepares you as much as watching a Gordon ramsay show to prepare for a night out to a restaurant.
omg this is wild! we always watched ink master in tattoo school and the instructors were good about telling us what was real and what was ham but this went way more in depth! that show is a cool concept, i hope they’re more honest in the future. 🖤
tattoo school? how did that go for you and are you tattooing now?
I was watching ink master complications in highschool, when I was 18 I walked into a shop and got my first tattoo, six months later I had two more and I’m about to get another one (I haven’t gotten another one since I was 19) and personally the show did prepare me, just because of my anxiety, showed me the worst that would happen. I’ve never had a bad tattoo experience, and I think the show is the reason, it sets the bar so low for an artist in way of treating clients that made it easy for me to walk into a shop
My biggest issue has always been how they villainize some artists. I went to a tattoo convention which hosts a lot of famous faces and saw Emily from the rivals season, and because of how she was portrayed in the show I was too intimidated to talk to her. Lol I was young.
My friend was on season 7.
Being in the industry I know a few people who were offered spots and essentially promised a win or a final spot.
I knew they were coming out with the new season as soon as they canceled it. Different judges but I think it’s needed
I’ve *never* spotted an earpiece on anyone. Not even a single “oops” accidentally caught on camera. And there are so many canvases that I refuse to believe are being told how to act/what to say. No way a ton of random ppl who want a tattoo are *that* good of actors. But I believe a lot of stuff about the rest.
They’re getting paid.
Good actors lol
So you believe that these contenders could just causally bad mouth the judge's "Opinion" judgement on them? Have you not seen Master Chef? Everybody stfu and take in what the Judges says. Nobody questions the Judge.
@@guppynbetta4594 master chef is a completely different setting with completely different kinds of people than ink master, be real
@@centraltime3680 yes, ink master isn't real. It's a reality TV show, it's all fake drama and acting. You should know by now, that's what's real.
People should be talking about the editing more instead of the staging. The cuts between multiple scenes/conversations are really butchered. There are times the staging bothers me though, like the x-men episode where Hugh Jackman was a guest so they picked a wolverine to win (not bad but didn’t deserve it)
I think most people who are old enough to get tattoos should understand that Ink Master is a reality show. Reality shows, even the least stripted ones, are highly dramatized. I'd be surprised if someone getting their first tattoo would expect it to be like Ink Master.
Oh your little chest tattoo is gorgeous! 😍 I recently got one in the same spot and am so glad I took the leap (was a little nervous). I reckon it is such a good spot for a tattoo like that. Great video again 👌
Thank youuu yes i love it it’s a fun spot 🙂
It’s a fun show and I miss watching it but having 17+ tattoos myself I can 100% say no this is not an accurate representation of what’s it like to really go get a tattoo. In real life it’s more fun and relaxed and you have plenty of distractions, and can personally connect with your artist, and I’d rather have that. Also less chance of a f*cked up tattoo bc you can choose who you want to go to
I have multiple tattoos and agree that the environment is usually completely different but since its a show that makes sense. I have met one artist that acted like he learned how to act in studio by watching the show. He took the asshat role and bumped it up a couple notches. Dude left my mom waiting in his chair and disappeared, I was getting one by a different artist so she waited, two hours later we finally got a hold of the guy and found out he went home and went to bed. Obviously my mom didn't trust him and he told her "you can't cancel on me, you paid the deposit " no dude that's not how that works.
We just need reality shows that aren't about drama, which should be the competition shows.
Yes! It's supposed to be reality ..and in reality ...life isn't that dramatic. Even in companions.
All my experiences in tattoo shops have been calm, even, and pleasant. The artists would always chat with me a few months or weeks before to make sure we both had the same vision for the tattoo and that I knew what to expect the day of the appointment ( for my shoulder tattoo, they asked me to wear a comfortable shirt that could easily expose the area that needed to be tattooed and not to put lotions or perfumes on that day to have the least irritation and best outcome). I always made sure to respect the work the artist was doing and they always respected my own wishes and boundaries. I feel like this show is very overplayed and over exaggerated, to a point that even for entertainment it's pushing it into the annoying area.
As someone whose company collaborated with an extremely famous reality TV show for one episode, I can tell you that even if things are not actually "scripted" in the sense of feeding people lines, most of what goes on is total BS. They have a huge bag of tricks to get what they want that includes taking ridiculous amounts of footage so they can edit it into whatever they want, taking things out of context, manipulative contracts, and manipulative questions and situations. Reality TV is never a depiction of reality, it is, at best, people thrown into an artificial situation forced to follow artificial rules, and then whatever is filmed is twisted into a completely different version of reality. Also, it is common place to offer certain contestants contractual guarantees to make it to one of the final rounds.
One of the things that I was always confused about was that tattoos are subjective. So how can you have a contest on something that is gonna be loved by some and hated by some no matter how good or bad it is.
Technique is not subjective. You can not like the style or subject matter of a tattoo, but still think it has good placement, linework, saturation, etc. The same is true in the opposite way too. For example let's say you like color realistic shark tattoos, but the line work in the tattoo has wobbles so you point out the technique of the tattoo was poorly done.
I really like Ink Master too, I watched it a lot after a Bar Rescue marathon and I definitely get there’s way too much drama and people with big egos (or as the show makes it out to be)
I loved watching ink master as it introduced me to so many styles of tattooing which i can really appreciate from new school to japanese to black and grey, I love it all, but I will say the show is so intense..i don't think it would prepare you in the right way for a tattoo..because the reality is...most tattoo artists are nice, chill people that want you to be comfortable and have a great experience and a tattoo you're both proud of. I've been lucky to only have such tattoo interactions and I'm grateful to my artists for being so kind and lovely.
As a previous canvas and wife of an inkmaster artist, not "fake" but it is over dramatized, yes but its entertainment TV. Andrea is actually really nice but she's doing a job and her job is to make entertaining TV. And yes editing is a real thing, but they film for 2 super long days and it can't all be shown. They take what makes good tv.
And yes there are times some of the artists are asked to make it more entertaining, if that means instigate a fight 🤷♀️
It's true you have 0 distraction from the tattoo, headphones are fake and plugged in to nothiTV. But they don't regulate your conversion with the artists. The time limit is real, but it doesn't mean you have to use the whole 6hrs if you're done early you could end it and go to the green room. The human canvas jury is not "fake" we are encouraged to say something about every tattoo, editing can make a canvas look more vicious than the intention but again it's entertainment TV.
It's a fun show with amazing artist, but remember they are not just showcasing thier talent It's a competitive game. And each artist has to choose how they want to play, that doesn't make it fake. The tattoos are real and the pressure can make amazing artist not put out their best work. My husband is the sweetest man alive but he's a huge survivor fan and went into the show with a strategy, knowing it's a game, and there is only one winner 🤷♀️that worked very well for him.
Fans should just enjoy the content.
Thank you!!!!
Thanks for the info! It’s hard to know what info coming out is true, because everyone is looking for a payout. More outlandish comments from previous ink masters, the more views they’ll get. Your comment seems the most true to me, because you have nothing to lose or gain from a YT comment. Thanks so much for being a canvass and your spouse for being a master, bringing some entertaining tattoo-related reality show, into our homes! ❤️
I just made a comment on how Corey just seems like hes paranoid and I cant take what he says as real
I heard the time limit was faked tho
@@That90sGirl310 I've heard that too!
That they'd get the "countdown" for the cameras and then get back to finishing the last bits of the tattoo
i just discovered ur channel and not only did i just like this vid in general but your voice n the whole vibe is so chill and relaxing
Thank you so much I appreciate thattt :)))
🤫 That commenter that said the competitors on the show were just characters, that might be true considering the cameras will mostly focus on people that are more interesting, so there might have been some tattooers that deliberately played a character so that they could get more camera time, like Saint Mark acting as the villain for the season he was in. But besides that, after I got more into tattooing I realized how many well establish tattoo artist actually competed in that show, like a lot of tattooers knew who Saint Mark, and Jesse Smith, and clean rock one was even before they went on that show. So I don’t really agree that the competitors were just characters, considering there were actual legendary and well established tattoo artists competing in that show, but I would say that the way they edit the show definitely made some people seems like characters.
That’s the problem with every show now a days. You can’t actually have a real competition with everything being real and not scripted or fake. It’s so annoying how every show has some sort of script.
i love your videos, been binging your channel. keep up the good work!
“I have taught you all you know.
I have not taught you all I know.”
- Don Louis Nolan
1938-2019
Began tattooing in 1955, age 17. Tattooed for 63 years.
Tattooed me for 37 years.
Created my bodysuit by 1986, and then re-created it decades later.
People, you don’t show me anything.
Tattooing isn’t a game.
I recently binge watched A LOT of ink master. I'm up to season 5. I've noticed SOOOOO much sexism. For instance, in the season 4 finale the female canvases had to wear thongs and Dave was making comments about how they should turn around (because they had no shirt) but the male canvas got to wear shorts.
I watch Ink Master before I got my tattoo done, it did not match at all with the reality, my tattoo artist is hilarious and a good laugh. It made the first experience so much better. I would say tho all that the show did for me is give me a better understanding of what I was getting into.
This was a very interesting watch, I very much enjoyed it! You make great content, I struggle with ptsd and bipolar and when I'm feeling really down or just not in a good way I'll put your videos on and they really help. Keep up the awesome work 😊. 🤫🤫🤫🤫
Yes, yes yes! Solid analysis Celle, bullseye! Totally agree with you about putting back the focus on art, composition, cold theory, techniques and etc and less cheap dramas of non tattoo related stuff. There's a fantastic opportunity with this show to discover new artists, lear tricks and learn more about the industry, I hope they have learned they lesson and won't go back into that cheesy drama crap.
While the show is probably all bullshit, why do you describe Jessica's statement as "it might be true" but Tyler's as "brutally honest"?
I think she was implying Jessica’s sounds like she’s being polite and hers sounds in opposition to Tyler’s where is being brutal and open about what he has to say. I think the “it might be true” statement is just a segway to bring up Tyler’s brutal statements. I don’t necessarily think she is saying one statement is more or less accurate than the other.
I remember watching this show and when it came to the judging it felt so clear that they already knew who was found home before they even saw any of their work. People who had amazing tattoos would get roasted and people who has terrible tattoos would get praised
I love your energy. You're intelligent, concise, and very cool. After watching several of your videos, i was shocked I wasn't already subscribed yet. I hit that button so fast today.
Would you maybe like to do a video about getting all / a lot of tattoos from the same artist vs. getting tattooed by many different artists? I struggle a bit between wanting to find „my“ artist who I trust and who will fulfill all my tattoo wishes, but on the other hand there‘s the idea of „collecting“ tattoos by many different artists, to make my body somewhat of an art gallery, because I find that concept so cool.
I have a feeling Tyler was just upset and most of the things he said wasn’t true
i didnt think anyone believed the time crunch thing of course they arent still tattooing down to the last second tv is all about editingg
I'm so glad I just discovered your channel! Great video! 🤫
I first watched ink master when I was 15 and dreaming about becoming a tattoo artist and it totally turned me off from wanting to become one because it gave me such a false representation of what tattoo artists are like and what the culture is overall. I thought everyone would be dramatic and petty and egotistical. As I got older and started getting tattoos I realized that ink master is far from a realistic representation and I'm back on track to learning to tattoo after meeting so many friendly and kind artists. But man I wish I didn't have that as my first exposure to the world of tattooing because I might have not been immediately turned off from it for years
I watched Ink Master before my first tattoo and between the show and friends who already had tattoos, I feel like I was more prepared than I would have been without the show. I knew the basics of tattooing going in and while looking for an artist I knew what to look for. My tattoo turned out fantastic so drama or not, I feel like the show gave me some preparedness and the boost I needed to get it!
…I didn’t know they were bringing it back for another season in 2022!
Super interesting topic!! I knew none of this, but figured it was hyped up for ratings
The judges inconsistencies drove me nuts. Made it apparent that they wanted to keep an artist over another. DC villain episode, the artist that got kicked, switched Two Faces sides but did a super accurate picture besides, where the guy that did poison ivy took full creative license and made a green cartoon stayed. Ether they followed the guide lines or they didn't. They kept the artist that provided the most drama.
I have a bunch of tattoos. I can picture everyone of the artists that did them being on Ink Master. The look, the lingo, the salt at criticisms. That's the one thing the show captures that "real". The thing about the show that bugs me if it's real is the way they try and screw the canvas, the other artists I mean. Giving a style or whatever to someone they know sucks at it. I get it, buy the ticket, take the ride, but that's evil lol
The one thing I keep wondering about is, how can most of these canvases think that they can get such incredibly intricate tattoos in such little time? It bothers me that none of the producers sit them down and TELL THEM brutally, that their expectations are dream world unrealistic in the time given.
....because that's the point. A LOT of the canvases had extravagantly lofty expectations... because the producers literally sat them down and TOLD THEM, "These artists are here to be challenged. Do NOT let them convince you to change location/position/style/size etc. "
They're encouraged to he a hard ass.(though some canvases were more than civil, agreeable, understanding, etc. but most if not all canvases were given '''''permission''''' to be a heel if they wanted to.)
never forget. if you're watching A.N.Y.T.H.I.N.G. that's even *remotely* "reality TV", and you find yourself getting furious at things...know you're doing exactly what the producer wants. Manufactured tension is everywhere. Even if the stars are unaware/uninvolved.
I was a canvas from season 8. I didn't see anything or hear production guide artists into saying things. The conversations I had with the artists did not leave me to believe there was a script or storyline they were to follow.
🤫 Just came across your YT channel and love your vids so far!
🤫 honestly don’t think they’ll change the show in the new season. It’s a reality TV show, and from what I’ve read in RUclips comments sections, people love the drama. I constantly see people mentioning re-occurring characters and drama all the time, it seems to be what they’re aiming for with their show. Is creating meme-able reality tv show moments
Hi Celle
Your voice is soft and very relaxing and I enjoy your content.
Thanks
🤫 I’ve always been a tattoo lurker, and have always wondered about Ink Master! Thanks for a great video….☺️💗
The editing kills me. Somebody pointed out that in the background you’ll see somebody smiling and happy or supportive for one of their friends on the show and then a camera cuts to their face and they look bitter.
Does anyone know the name of that guy that kept putting out shit tattoos with sloppy lines that got stay despite being bottom about 3 times? I got so mad seeing a bad tattoo artist stay because the judges thought “they had potential”.
Also I always think about that time an artist was sent home for his octopus in a jar tattoo not being realistic but in reality, an octopus CAN fit inside a jar
Jime pissed me off the most. That guy just did new school tattoos, but they were not even new school tattoos, they looked more like Bratz or Barbie characters. I hate his style.
Such a pretty voice and calming energy, glad I found your videos 😌
🤫 great video! I'm now obsessed with your channel 💖
🤫 shows like this and la ink were some of the things that originally got me into tattoos but this definitely brought to light the suspicions I had
I don't believe for a minute that some producer fed Dave Navarro every, single word he was allowed to say. I've been a major fan of his for many, many years, and from absolutely everything I've ever read, seen or heard, Dave Navarro has some serious integrity. He is also super empathetic and compassionate. Tyler Nolan is the only artist I've ever heard who said it was totally scripted, and he seems butt hurt because he wasn't good enough to win. I'm sure a lot of it is scripted because it's reality tv; however, I do not believe Dave Navarro would agree to be on a show where he had no ability to speak his mind or share his own opinion at all. That's just not the type of person he seems to be, and he also dislikes authority way too much to shut his mouth, play a part, pretend he agrees with everything he's spoon fed, etc., especially regarding a subject he's so passionate about. Tattoos are a major part of his life and they mean something to him, and I just have a hard time believing he'd ever be that big of a sell out. That has never been his MO. Funny how contestant after contestant says the show is somewhat scripted but not completely, yet Tyler, alone, stands up to say it's "99% scripted". He's a sore loser who's mad because his skills weren't up to par with some of the other artists. He had a bad attitude throughout the entire season, he always had a totally overinflated ego that he couldn't ever seem to justify, and he stayed way longer than he should have.
🤫 Really like where you’re going with the channel. Keep up the great work!
You should read short stories or poems and upload the audio. Your voice is so calm and relaxing, I need something to help me sleep.
🤫 I watched Ink Master for a couple of seasons. Fake or not the main goal was to entertain. I think the did accomplish that
I have always wondered how ligament Ink Master is to the Tattoo community. Like do they see it as a respectable title to win or do they think its a load of crap and just a way to get some publicity?
A little bit of this, a little bit of that...
There is a ink master winner in my state Delaware, and I believe it’s pretty hard to get in w him like as in waiting times
Legitimate lol
My tattoo artist was invited to participate in Ink Master, and he declined. He said it's too much bullshit, and he's honest enough to say that he can't tattoo anything and everything, for example, he doesn't do realism because he's just not good @ it.
I subscribed for my love of everything tattoo, but your beautiful voice and self really sealed the deal😍😍😍
When it comes to anything reality based (ESPECIALLY if they're also competition based as well) I always tend to think that most of the dramatized scenes were probably scripted or if there were actual problems the production crew told them to crank it up all the way to 11
People are so mean on ink master 🤣 the artists are always annoyed and most canvases unhappy