I will say there’s a line in Batman and Robin that I unironically love, and it’s from Alfred when Bruce is asking Alfred if he has any regrets about being the butler to the Wayne’s and whatnot Alfred responds with: “my only regret is that I could not be out there with you” Like that just feels so fatherly and wholesome from Alfred
Alfred's actor definitely understood the assignment, which is funny since him and Gordon are the only two actors to be in ALL 4 80s-90s live action films
Despite being ...what it is, B&R does a fantastic job of showing Bruce and Alfred's relationship and what it means. Not just that he cares, but how much Bruce needs him for guidance on a daily basis. Something that was completely absent in the new Batman movie.
Getting sucked into the world of 80s-90s Batman and seeing the art direction of Gotham City really just makes me think “this thing is nicer than my apartment”
33:46 Another side to this is that Danny Trejo specifically requests that if he's a bad guy, he's gotta die by the end. He doesn't ever want to be viewed as a role model for being a bad person. I always thought that was really wholesome.
@@thedood_bro5021 Yeah Robin also said that when he first went into the Batcave, I remember that well. Alfred's response was even better and had me in stitches.
I remember Batman Forever being one of my favorites as a kid, like instinctively knowing Batman 1 is the better movie, but Batman Forever just being way more fun and exciting
It's terrible. People tend to look fondly on things from their childhood, but if you have never seen it and have no nostalgic attachment to it, you're gonna hate it.
Idk why but I've always loved the part where Nicholson's Joker takes out a pair of glasses and asks Batman "You wouldn't hit a guy in glasses, would ya?" and then immediately gets decked in the face.. it just always makes me chuckle.
Hearing Marcus talk about his Batman forever toys and how two face was a central part of his "action figure lore" just made my day. That was just adorable. This video was a joy to watch definitely nicer than my apartment.
Yeah this part brought me back. I’m sure we all had some action figures of older siblings having no clue who they were but they looked evil and that was enough to make them a central figure for the bad guys.
Man, Bane in these early movies had such a heartbreaking backstory. When he enters the wayne manor and says "this place is nicer than my appartment"... Brings a tear to my eye
When I watched this movie for the first time I imitated the ridiculous back bend for everyone I could. They built multiple suits for the film to allow for certain movements, they couldn’t give him a suit that wasn’t a literal back brace??
I like the part in The Dark Knight when Batman is interrogating the Joker and he leans in gently to Batman to whisper “this thing is nicer than my apartment”.
Seeing the Penguin bite off a guy's nose to then seeing Jim Carrey dance like a madman as the Riddler was the biggest tonal shift I experienced as a kid.
@@zaidabraham7310 Yeah, personally they're my favoruite Batman movies so I don't mind the silliness that much, but I just don't see the big difference between Returns and Forever. Forever had nothing on the level of penguins with missiles.
Of all the movies he could choose to use as an example of Tim Burton making "bad movies", he chose Corpse Bride. It's like he WANTS people to think he's stupid.
Honestly the way Adam West's Batman delivers the line "This thing is nicer than my apartment" really sets him apart from the rest. I don't know how you could consider anyone else the GOAT
I’ve been looking forward to “this” video for so long. Some”thing” I always love about Marcus “is” that he always takes the time to be “nicer” to movies like these “than” most critics would be by viewing the movies in the context of their release. Can’t wait to watch part two in “my apartment”.
49:10 i have no idea why, but batman and robin on riding on surfboards in the sky from an explosion with "i am all of me" blasting in the background is the funniest shit to me.
My favorite part about all the Batman movies is that they always include the line “this thing is nicer than my apartment” it’s always a great callback line.
“This comment is nicer than my apartment,” said Batman as he climbed down the bat-ladder. “Jee willikers Batman she’s beauty and she’s grace!!” Cried Robin as he quickly followed behind.
it's kinda strange and cool that arguably the most beloved superhero is the one that has no powers. spiderman is also up there and most people don't even know how strong that guy is, people like that he's a teenager with money/relationship problems who beats up tragic villains and cares for his city. relatable characters are always beloved
What I really love about 1989's Joker is the permanent smile thing they do with him. The way it constantly twists his face is a really cool effect we haven't seen since.
I like how he's a gangster, but even before he falls into the vat of chemicals, it's mentioned that he's already viewed as a little crazy to begin with (Eckhardt calls him an "A1 nutjob" or something like that) and he is mentioned as being highly intelligent with chemistry, which explains how he can make Smilex.
I’m mixed on how Batman ‘89 handles Joker’s origin/connection to Bruce Wayne, but I do like how they establish that Jack was always kind of a dick even before he fell into the acid. Especially since Joker’s always going on about his whole “one bad day” ideology and how it’s the reason why he became what he is now, so it’s refreshing to have a piece of media that just goes, “oh yeah no he was always like that, the acid just gave him an excuse to be even worse.”
I still can't believe how beautiful Wayne Manor looked in "Batman: Forever." That was top tier set design. Robin really just walked in there and said, "This thing is nicer than my apartment."
Shrek was originally planned to be Penguin's brother in the original version of the script, which is why Penguin wanted to kill all the firstborn sons of Gotham. That's why he was so prominent in the story but since that was written out of the script, he doesn't really have a place and could've been replaced by literally any other rich guy.
The interesting thing about Val Kilmers Batman is that there’s a lot of deleted dialogue that suggests he has killed before. There’s deleted Two-Face dialogue of him laughing at the idea that Batman “doesn’t kill.” There’s also a really cool deleted scene of Bruce having an internal monologue with himself, and he realizes that he doesn’t know who he is anymore, because both his Bruce and Batman personality’s have melted into one, which is why the director chose to include Two- Face in the movie. Classic split personality villain. My theory is that in the early drafts of Batman Forever, we were gonna start with a Batman who has kinda lost his way, and the movie was gonna be about him trying to find out who he is and who he used to be before he went down a dark path. But then Warner Bros just cut out this amazing subplot for no fucking reason. You can watch the deleted scenes on RUclips tho.
There is a version of the script with those scenes online and there is a video on RUclips by Hitop films that goes over the movie as it is VS what the director wanted to make and it goes over those scenes and that version of the character. I fully believe that this is supposed to be the same Bruce Wayne as Keaton, it was originally going to be another Burton sequel with Keaton, but they both walked away because of how much control the studio wanted.
@@richardlandgraf1953 that would make sense. Because Kenton’s Batman killed all the time. Perhaps in the early drafts of the script, the people of Gotham were getting fed up with Batman running around every night killing people, and maybe there was gonna be a subplot about Batman trying to go back to being a hero who doesn’t kill. That would’ve been very interesting. Personally, Kevin Conroy is my ideal Batman, and I think Batman should never kill. Batman is the guy who not only doesn’t kill, but actually saves his villains, even though they were just trying to kill him 5 mins ago. I hope Robert Pattinson Batman does some cool shot like that
This is why I always defend the movie. Yes, it's silly, but it's also one of the most character introspective takes on Bruce. The "I fell forever" flashback has become almost as iconic as his parents being shot.
I’m currently sitting in a hospital room and there literally couldn’t be a better video to watch while waiting for my dad to wake up. Thanks for always putting a smile on my face when I need one, Marcus :) Edit: Thank you all so much for the well wishes!! It means so much. My dad is going to be okay, he's just got a long road of recovery ahead of him. We appreciate all the support
To address your complaint as to why Max Schreck is so prominent in Batman Returns, the character was originally supposed to be Harvey Dent. Instead of the explosion at the end of the film killing him, it was to scar his face and set him up as Two-Face for the third film.
Lando Calrissian was also originally supposed to be a clone from the Clone Wars, which means there's probably an alternate timeline where clone troopers were played by an old Billy Dee Williams instead of Temura Morrison.
Speaking of Harvey Dent, Burton is most definitely not a racist. He cast Billy Dee Williams personally, and he didn't even have to. (And the clown in BATMAN RETURNS who says, "Heh-heh-heh-heh, you missed!"? Under that whiteface, he's Native American. And he gave one of the best performances in the movie.)
NOT TRUE. Daniel Waters, the writer of the film, categorically denied that Max Schreck was meant to be Harvey Dent. There were three scripts made. And none of them had Two Face or Harvey in Max's role. It was always Max Schreck. This fan-fiction level myth needs to DIE!
Everything here is good but holy crap. The Batman & Robin segment. Marcus goes HARD and just doesn't stop. The editing, the deadpan snark. It's all so good. I died
Putting the batman beyond theme at the end is such a nice touch. Its such a great show and really made me think "This thing is nicer than my apartment"
I'm still so glad that current WB with the still on-going problems of the DCEU hasn't touched _Batman Beyond_ (yet--sigh). A bad live-action wouldn't ruin the original, but it would still sting.
@@MusicoftheDamned It could've just been a standalone, like 'Joker' and 'The Batman'. They had the prefect opertunity to use Keaton as Oldman Bruce, to mentor Terry Mcginnis (whatever young actor who'd play him), but wasted him 'The Flash' movie (and Batgirl if that had came out).
@@trika91 True. A standalone is currently the only way I could see it being good even with James Gunn taking over, but I guess we'll see if he'll eventry to touch at all after, well, whatever is going on with that. As much as the MCU has become a mess after _Endgame_ (somewhat predictably), it's still difficult to comprehend that the DCEU a full decade later is *still* more of mess--as seen with pretty much every DCEU movie this year--as someone who grew up with the DCAU. Sigh. It would be nice if DC could *finally* get its crap together for the live-action movies if they insist on doing them rather than only having like done five good ones out of the last thirty they've made (and actually released--R.I.P. _Batgirl_ movie).
I've ironically/unironically loved Kiss from a Rose for over a decade - I never knew it was made for Batman Forever. The fact that it was, just makes me love it even more.
Yes, although counting the thugs in the '66 movie is not fair at all. They die due to Penguin accidentally using heavy water to rehydrate them, nothing that is Batman's fault
My favorite thing in batman and robin is when mr freeze informs the audience that after the heat death of the universe everything will reach absolute zero in the end. And then in a scene later supplements the phrase “say cheese” with “say freeze”. What an absolute masterpiece
I will say there is only one thing Clooney did well. His Batman showed a sliver of humanity when dealing with Victor at the end of the movie. He pleaded with his humanity to save a life. That is very rare for any live action Batman to pull off and I appreciated that.
51:45 Ahhh man I love how the 90s and the 90s only found a cohesive way to blend adult themes, imagery, and jokes into children’s movies. And the children being none the wiser while the adults are sitting there laughing their asses off. It’s literally the only decade where this happened nonstop wherever you went. Sex was very much in the air and on the brain all the time. They definitely should’ve checked the water supply lmaoooo
12:42 Hmm, you gave Adam West a B. B is for Batman, but B also sounds like Bee, the number one pollinator for plants. Plants are controlled by the nefarious Poison Ivy. Ivy is also the name of a League of schools known world wide for being among the best. Best also rhymes with West.... Great Scott Robin, he named Adam West the Best Batman!
Man I used to have one of those t-shirts too, I had it like into the mid early 2000s and it was just tatters at that point but it was so dope I didn't want to toss it.
And how many people had the Robin logo t-shirt? Zero. Robin was introduced to give Batman someone to talk to and appeal to kids. So Batman spends his nights punching the crap out of extremely twisted criminals and decides to GROOM a kid to do the same. Any idea what kind of trauma would forever scar a young mind? So yeah, anyone who thinks Robin is a good idea also sucks just like Cosmo. What he likes or dislikes is super arbitrary like if he had that particular Batmobile that movie is good. LAME.
@@dangerfly Batman didn't groom Grayson. He took him under his wing because he didn't want to see Grayson turn into another Batman, another vengeance fueled psychopath (even if he's pretty cool and in the right). Batman taking in Grayson allowed Grayson to get the closure on his parents death that Bruce never got. The closure that stopped Grayson from becoming another Batman. The closure that instead cemented him as Robin and later on turned him into Nightwing.
I still remember the chills I got watching Tim Burton's Batman for the very first time as a kid. The Gothic-style cinematography, Danny Elfman's haunting score, and Jack Nicholson's iconic Joker performance left an indelible mark on me that has stayed with me to this day. It was like stepping into another world, one that felt both familiar yet eerily unfamiliar at the same time. And when Michael Keaton emerged from the shadows as Bruce Wayne/Batman, it was nothing short of breathtaking. This film ignited my passion for superhero movies and set the bar high for what a comic book adaptation could be. Truly, it remains a classic masterpiece that continues to inspire and delight audiences of all ages. To quote a friend of mine who recently watched it again, "This thing is nicer than my apartment."
Aside from this thing being nicer than my apartment, I had totally forgotten about "Robin drying laundry in a *cool* way". The accompanying reaction at 44:26 was brutally funny
Its crazy how the cops in Batman 66 love Batman and salute to him, despite the fact that the comics and in basically every other version of Batman ever, the cops absolutely HATE Batman with a burning passion.
Super excited for the Killing Joke review!! My favorite scene comes after the Joker enters Gordon’s apartment and shoots Barbra in the spine. He says “There are nicer places than this apartment” What an absolute mad man
Honestly glad to see someone acknowledge that Nicholson's Joker is arguably more dangerous and darker than Ledger's; I will wholly accept that the latter gives a better performance overall, but nothing from Ledger straddles the line of 'dark' and 'hilarious' as the 'I'm glad you're dead!' bit from '89. I also appreciate that '89's Joker isn't locked into the typical Batman/Joker stories we get these days, where Joker's cruelty is neverendingly escalating to try and get Batman to snap and Batman just goes 'Hrrn' and throws him back into Arkham. Nicholson's Joker doesn't give a *shit* about Batman beyond the fact he's stealing his spotlight, and it's pretty refreshing these days.
He said "more chaotic" in reference to his mannerisms, nothing about being "darker and more dangerous." Which one is more dangerous is debatable, as both rack up a pretty high body count and do a lot of damage to Gotham city. Ledger was far more manipulative and cunning, but Nicholson was arguably more "evil" as he seemed to just kill for the fun of it, whereas Ledger had a specific philosophical agenda that he wanted to prove. However, Ledger definitely takes the spot for the darker Joker, with the reason being that he actually succeeded in harming and killing main characters. Nicholson only killed a bunch of minor side characters, whereas Ledger killed Rachel and psychologically destroyed Harvey Dent, turning him into the disfigured Two-Face. Then he forced Batman into becoming a political martyr for Gotham in a desperate resort to maintain peace. The actions of Ledger's Joker simply had bigger and deadlier consequences for the main characters. To me, that leaves a much bigger impact than Nicholson saying an evil line to a fake looking skeleton, making him the "darker" Joker.
Probably because Nicholson's Joker is an actual gangster. I mean, he's still insane, but moreso in an average Mafia way. Ledger's Joker is just all around psychotic in the "point" he's trying to make.
59:22 I never noticed this until now. Clooney is still wearing the sonar suit, but Robin is in the red suit from the beginning of the movie. This means they got back home from a big fight and saved the city from Mr. Freeze, yet Robin decided the first thing to do was to switch to his favorite costume. He’s even behind Barbara, implying he was the last one to show up to Alfred’s almost dead carcass. 🤣
32:53 I agree about the voice, but I want to emphasise, Talking not Stupid growly whisper, Kevin Conroys bat didn’t growl like an edge lord he spoke with gravitas, he sounded like an authority figure, it’s intimidating but he also sounds like someone who could tell a kid who he saved that everything is going to be ok, James Gunn please give us a Batman who has a human voice
You describing the opening scene from Batman and Robin has me dying. One part missing is when Batman and Robin clap shoes together and skate blades magically come out of them 😂
I cannot even begin to describe how happy I am that your reaction to the naming of the Bat-ladder was EXACTLY the same as mine when I first saw this film.
These videos are such an essential part of my holiday season every year. They also blow my mind because they count as a year marker and it never feels like a year since the last “end of year video”
Fun fact: Max Shreck was supposed to be the second film arc for Billy Dee Williams' Harvey Dent ending with the accident and the third movie being him as Two-Face, but WB straight up didn't want a black villain. So they paid out BDW's three film contract. They ended up doing the same thing after Damon Wayans was cast as Robin. There were Robin action figures made for either Returns or Forever that are clearly molded to look like Wayans but painted so Robin is white.
This is false. Daniel Waters, who wrote Batman Returns, has stated multiple times that Dent was never intended to be in the Max Schreck role. Dent was supposed to be a completely side character in returns, slowly showing his decent into madness by flipping a coin to decide if he was going to get himself involved in the whole shenanigans going on
@@jonjones6764 Honestly can't blame people for believing Shreck took Dent's role, because the idea of him being Dent is so clearly what should've been done in the first place. Also its a half truth seeing how WB did have to pay Billy Dee Williams off of suing them.
There are actually deleted scenes for Batman Forever where hes discussing if he should kill his enemies which changes the whole feel of the movie. I think you can still find these scenes online.
I really took a step back and looked at how much editing and effort would have to go into this video being made and it's only a part 1?! I seriously appreciate these videos and gotta give credit for all the work put in.
I genuinely love coming back to this channel and these videos. Hearing someone be able to express some of my same thought and sentiments on a topic in a well made video makes me put down my phone and say "This things nicer than my apartment." then immediately proceed to waist another 8 hours of my day.
I still have a few of the McDonald’s glass collectors cups. I actually somewhat liked Batman forever and thought Val Kilmer was not a bad Batman. Underrated film
“This thing nicer than my apartment.” - iconic. Really fair takes across the board. Still have a soft spot for Keaton, but damn is Forever the most underrated Bat Film???
Seeing you speak so fondly about Batman Forever makes my heart sing! It's such an iconic ride and most likely influenced my love of color palettes. Seeing Jim Carrey return as a villain in Sonic 2 also drummed up all of those Riddler vibes. 😂❤
42:39 for the longest time, I thought that smile of batman was some sort of meme edit, I don't know if I'm either glad or concerned that it's actually real
Can’t wait to hear Marcus discuss The Dark Knight vs The Batman. Personally I gotta take The Batman, but I did get chills when Harvey woke up in that abandoned building strapped to oil drums with the love of his life on the other end of the phone and said “This thing is better than my apartment”.
If I had a nickel for every movie which depicted Catwoman as gaining magical resurrection powers from an army of supernatural cats, I would have two nickels. Which…I mean, you know the rest of the quote, I don’t have to explain myself.
“What has yellow skin and writes?”
“A ballpoint banana”
“Right”
All this being said with completely straight faces had me in genuine tears
Unfortunately I lack the gene to process that sort of thing as 'funny', so all I could do was go "what?!"
@@octochanDamn I'm sorry you lack that gene. Hope you develop it, so stupid things can be funny.
@@octochan cool man
@@octochansucks for you man.
He’s literally holding a pencil when he says it.
When Robin first walks into the batcave and says, "This thing is nicer than my apartment," it was truly a display of masterful writing.
This thing is nicer than my apartment 🗣️🗣️
“Chicks dig this thing!”
"HEY YOU GUUYYYS"
OH GOD
Bro that commercial is cringe.
Batman confirming that alcoholics are in fact, still human beings, was a big moment
My worlds colliding Marcus Patterrz, Breadsword and Gameboyluke cage lock four way
I felt so seen when he said that honestly
didn't expect to see you here but hi
Is that Daniel "Patterrz" Patterson I spy?
Whoa when worlds collide. A RUclipsr I like watching ANOTHER RUclipsr I like 😌🤯😂
I will say there’s a line in Batman and Robin that I unironically love, and it’s from Alfred when Bruce is asking Alfred if he has any regrets about being the butler to the Wayne’s and whatnot Alfred responds with: “my only regret is that I could not be out there with you”
Like that just feels so fatherly and wholesome from Alfred
Alfred's actor definitely understood the assignment, which is funny since him and Gordon are the only two actors to be in ALL 4 80s-90s live action films
One of the most fatherly iterations of Alfred we’ve had. I really loved that. That subplot of Alfred dying though was so fucked up lmao
Despite being ...what it is, B&R does a fantastic job of showing Bruce and Alfred's relationship and what it means. Not just that he cares, but how much Bruce needs him for guidance on a daily basis. Something that was completely absent in the new Batman movie.
Reading that bit about “this thing is nicer than my apartment” made me appreciate how great Marcus is
*this thing is nice than my apartment
Definitely
“This place is nicer than my apartment”
"this thing is nicer than my apartment"
It’s a purse, not a satchel!
Batman as a character is absurdly flexible, he works both in more serious and violent stories and in slapstick comedies.
and we all know Lego Batman and batman 66 are the best
@@atb1953 nah
And he’s also physically flexible. Capable of splits, and other high level gymnastics.
Batman and Godzilla, the most tonally flexible characters
@@killert_7759as is Bond
Getting sucked into the world of 80s-90s Batman and seeing the art direction of Gotham City really just makes me think “this thing is nicer than my apartment”
I think about this comment a lot.
33:46 Another side to this is that Danny Trejo specifically requests that if he's a bad guy, he's gotta die by the end. He doesn't ever want to be viewed as a role model for being a bad person.
I always thought that was really wholesome.
Because of that specific rule he is the most killed mainstream actor
@@rainingcomplete3018 It's not Sean Bean?
@ Surprisingly no! While Sean Bean has more memorable deaths, Danny Trejo has more overall. Quantity versus quality thing.
Probably also because Trejo used to be an actual bad guy IRL before he turned his life around and became an actor.
@@rainingcomplete3018Christopher Lee has the most deaths in cinema history.
The part where Batman goes "This thing is nicer than my apartment" is simply my favorite line.
Or the part where he goes “This thing is nicer than my apartment”
i died when he said "this thing is nicer than my apartment"
I have a bumper sticker that says “This thing is nicer than my apartment.”
But when Robin said "This thing is nicer than my apartment" I felt that in my soul
@@thedood_bro5021 Yeah Robin also said that when he first went into the Batcave, I remember that well. Alfred's response was even better and had me in stitches.
Batman’s smile in Batman Forever literally made me cry with laughter. I feel like I should watch this movie
It is a lot better than I remember.
val kilmer is a great batman actor you should watch it
You should
I remember Batman Forever being one of my favorites as a kid, like instinctively knowing Batman 1 is the better movie, but Batman Forever just being way more fun and exciting
It's terrible. People tend to look fondly on things from their childhood, but if you have never seen it and have no nostalgic attachment to it, you're gonna hate it.
Pairing the "batman moves like a Muppet" line with the clip of Keaton bending at the waist to look upward was perfect
I died laughing 😂😂😂
It was nicer than my apartment
Watching fresh off of RKG cast the muppets as Batman characters in an episode of retry, Disney needs to give us the muppets Batman NOW
Idk why but I've always loved the part where Nicholson's Joker takes out a pair of glasses and asks Batman "You wouldn't hit a guy in glasses, would ya?" and then immediately gets decked in the face.. it just always makes me chuckle.
Hearing Marcus talk about his Batman forever toys and how two face was a central part of his "action figure lore" just made my day. That was just adorable. This video was a joy to watch definitely nicer than my apartment.
It's extremely relatable. Nothing beats the worlds and stories we created
Yeah this part brought me back. I’m sure we all had some action figures of older siblings having no clue who they were but they looked evil and that was enough to make them a central figure for the bad guys.
Man, Bane in these early movies had such a heartbreaking backstory. When he enters the wayne manor and says "this place is nicer than my appartment"... Brings a tear to my eye
17:58 the line “he looks like a muppet” over the shot of him breaking his back to look up is comedy gold
Literally rewatched that clip so many times 🤣
I also like jokes...
When I watched this movie for the first time I imitated the ridiculous back bend for everyone I could. They built multiple suits for the film to allow for certain movements, they couldn’t give him a suit that wasn’t a literal back brace??
9:15 "He pours water on the goon dust"
That line out of context is hilarious for some reason
I almost died laughing at 5:32 with the Bat Ladder. “I’m sorry, this movie is airtight, it might be too smart for me”. Genius
And after that when the shark gets lifted up😂
😂😂
I like the part in The Dark Knight when Batman is interrogating the Joker and he leans in gently to Batman to whisper “this thing is nicer than my apartment”.
I’m so sorry that you went out with someone and they confessed by saying “this thing is nicer than my apartment.” Truly a heartbreaking moment.
At least he went out with someone.
At least heartbreak feels good in a place like this
I mean, let's be honest. A movie theater is way nicer than most apartments. Messier with weird smells, but bigger with massive TVs.
“Eat Floor” one of the greatest lines in a superhero movie
Eat floor...high in fibre, classic !!!
The Joker’s backstory is so sad. When he goes into the jail cell and says “This thing is nicer than my apartment”, it made my heart break.
I loved when poison Ivy woke up surrounded by all those plants and was all like “this thing is nicer than my apartment!”
Seeing the Penguin bite off a guy's nose to then seeing Jim Carrey dance like a madman as the Riddler was the biggest tonal shift I experienced as a kid.
I don't think it's such a big tonal shift. The Penguin is still silly as hell in Batman Returns.
@@zaidabraham7310 Yeah, personally they're my favoruite Batman movies so I don't mind the silliness that much, but I just don't see the big difference between Returns and Forever. Forever had nothing on the level of penguins with missiles.
Of all the movies he could choose to use as an example of Tim Burton making "bad movies", he chose Corpse Bride. It's like he WANTS people to think he's stupid.
Yes. You have Alice in Wonderland, Dumbo and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory right there...
Honestly the way Adam West's Batman delivers the line "This thing is nicer than my apartment" really sets him apart from the rest. I don't know how you could consider anyone else the GOAT
I’ve been looking forward to “this” video for so long. Some”thing” I always love about Marcus “is” that he always takes the time to be “nicer” to movies like these “than” most critics would be by viewing the movies in the context of their release. Can’t wait to watch part two in “my apartment”.
Ah ha ha
Don’t bring the “Schlatt” humor here
Schlagg be like:
Agreed!
@@Zero_XTZ5 haha I know who he is but I’ve actually never watched him!
Real talk Marcus I think this is the best script for a video you’ve done. Very tight and great comedic timing!
I laughed out loud multiple times. I might have to agree w you!
'damn that coochie can s-'
Couldn't agree more. The script is definitely nicer than my apartment.
49:10 i have no idea why, but batman and robin on riding on surfboards in the sky from an explosion with "i am all of me" blasting in the background is the funniest shit to me.
My favorite part about all the Batman movies is that they always include the line “this thing is nicer than my apartment” it’s always a great callback line.
Why is everyone talking about apartments?
@@Hawkatana you didnt watch the video
“This comment is nicer than my apartment,” said Batman as he climbed down the bat-ladder. “Jee willikers Batman she’s beauty and she’s grace!!” Cried Robin as he quickly followed behind.
@@atb1953 I did, and I'm still confused.
@@Hawkatanaha, they don’t know how to use the three seashells
Adam West Batman saying “some days you just cant get rid of a bomb” will forever be comedic gold
Why he's the best batman and I won't hear otherwise. Only one that got close is Lego Batman
Agreed.
Eat floor.
@@andyb6400you just like meme Batman lol
@@Vivi_9 you mean good Batman
your segment on the toys just unlocked some DEEP memories. The missile on that Batmobile might be the first piece of a toy I ever lost
I'm convinced you literally watch every RUclips video ever, Geoff
unexpected crossover
There’s no way
Why does it make sense that Geoff would watch this channel
Watch mojo top 10 crossovers
The kiss from a rose being immortalized by Batman makes me laugh so hard 😂
Batman has to be by far one of my favorite characters in fiction. Something about having insane plot armor just makes him so fun to root for
it's kinda strange and cool that arguably the most beloved superhero is the one that has no powers. spiderman is also up there and most people don't even know how strong that guy is, people like that he's a teenager with money/relationship problems who beats up tragic villains and cares for his city. relatable characters are always beloved
"by far one of" is such a funny phrase, i'm sorry
@@TheDudeSmashTrashI know right? Using "by far" and then "one of" to play it safe
I'm starting to not be interested in him, the trust fund kid beats up the mentally ill loses appeal the more serious it is made.
@@A9sAslol true, i wasn’t sure how i felt about him. Spider-Man, Flash (Barry Allen), and Batman are all tied as my favorite
What I really love about 1989's Joker is the permanent smile thing they do with him. The way it constantly twists his face is a really cool effect we haven't seen since.
I like how he's a gangster, but even before he falls into the vat of chemicals, it's mentioned that he's already viewed as a little crazy to begin with (Eckhardt calls him an "A1 nutjob" or something like that) and he is mentioned as being highly intelligent with chemistry, which explains how he can make Smilex.
I’m mixed on how Batman ‘89 handles Joker’s origin/connection to Bruce Wayne, but I do like how they establish that Jack was always kind of a dick even before he fell into the acid. Especially since Joker’s always going on about his whole “one bad day” ideology and how it’s the reason why he became what he is now, so it’s refreshing to have a piece of media that just goes, “oh yeah no he was always like that, the acid just gave him an excuse to be even worse.”
I absolutely adore Jack Nicholson in general, but in this movie his performance is truly wonderful
I still can't believe how beautiful Wayne Manor looked in "Batman: Forever." That was top tier set design.
Robin really just walked in there and said, "This thing is nicer than my apartment."
Shrek was originally planned to be Penguin's brother in the original version of the script, which is why Penguin wanted to kill all the firstborn sons of Gotham. That's why he was so prominent in the story but since that was written out of the script, he doesn't really have a place and could've been replaced by literally any other rich guy.
The interesting thing about Val Kilmers Batman is that there’s a lot of deleted dialogue that suggests he has killed before. There’s deleted Two-Face dialogue of him laughing at the idea that Batman “doesn’t kill.” There’s also a really cool deleted scene of Bruce having an internal monologue with himself, and he realizes that he doesn’t know who he is anymore, because both his Bruce and Batman personality’s have melted into one, which is why the director chose to include Two- Face in the movie. Classic split personality villain. My theory is that in the early drafts of Batman Forever, we were gonna start with a Batman who has kinda lost his way, and the movie was gonna be about him trying to find out who he is and who he used to be before he went down a dark path. But then Warner Bros just cut out this amazing subplot for no fucking reason. You can watch the deleted scenes on RUclips tho.
There is a version of the script with those scenes online and there is a video on RUclips by Hitop films that goes over the movie as it is VS what the director wanted to make and it goes over those scenes and that version of the character. I fully believe that this is supposed to be the same Bruce Wayne as Keaton, it was originally going to be another Burton sequel with Keaton, but they both walked away because of how much control the studio wanted.
@@richardlandgraf1953 that would make sense. Because Kenton’s Batman killed all the time. Perhaps in the early drafts of the script, the people of Gotham were getting fed up with Batman running around every night killing people, and maybe there was gonna be a subplot about Batman trying to go back to being a hero who doesn’t kill. That would’ve been very interesting. Personally, Kevin Conroy is my ideal Batman, and I think Batman should never kill. Batman is the guy who not only doesn’t kill, but actually saves his villains, even though they were just trying to kill him 5 mins ago. I hope Robert Pattinson Batman does some cool shot like that
This is why I always defend the movie. Yes, it's silly, but it's also one of the most character introspective takes on Bruce. The "I fell forever" flashback has become almost as iconic as his parents being shot.
I’m currently sitting in a hospital room and there literally couldn’t be a better video to watch while waiting for my dad to wake up. Thanks for always putting a smile on my face when I need one, Marcus :)
Edit: Thank you all so much for the well wishes!! It means so much. My dad is going to be okay, he's just got a long road of recovery ahead of him. We appreciate all the support
I hope your dad is ok..
Hope your dad is doing well!
Hope that everything will be all fine with your dad.
Best wishes to your Dad
hoping your dad is ok!!❤
To address your complaint as to why Max Schreck is so prominent in Batman Returns, the character was originally supposed to be Harvey Dent. Instead of the explosion at the end of the film killing him, it was to scar his face and set him up as Two-Face for the third film.
Lando Calrissian was also originally supposed to be a clone from the Clone Wars, which means there's probably an alternate timeline where clone troopers were played by an old Billy Dee Williams instead of Temura Morrison.
He doesn't care, Tim Burton is bad man
Speaking of Harvey Dent, Burton is most definitely not a racist. He cast Billy Dee Williams personally, and he didn't even have to. (And the clown in BATMAN RETURNS who says, "Heh-heh-heh-heh, you missed!"? Under that whiteface, he's Native American. And he gave one of the best performances in the movie.)
Good to know.
NOT TRUE. Daniel Waters, the writer of the film, categorically denied that Max Schreck was meant to be Harvey Dent. There were three scripts made. And none of them had Two Face or Harvey in Max's role. It was always Max Schreck.
This fan-fiction level myth needs to DIE!
Everything here is good but holy crap. The Batman & Robin segment. Marcus goes HARD and just doesn't stop. The editing, the deadpan snark. It's all so good. I died
It's such a joy hearing you talk about movies. It's almost like having a conversation.
Yay parasocialism
@@bobloblaw418parasocializing* although now I want a theory that integrates parasocial relationships and socialism
Putting the batman beyond theme at the end is such a nice touch. Its such a great show and really made me think "This thing is nicer than my apartment"
I'm still so glad that current WB with the still on-going problems of the DCEU hasn't touched _Batman Beyond_ (yet--sigh). A bad live-action wouldn't ruin the original, but it would still sting.
@@MusicoftheDamned It could've just been a standalone, like 'Joker' and 'The Batman'.
They had the prefect opertunity to use Keaton as Oldman Bruce, to mentor Terry Mcginnis (whatever young actor who'd play him), but wasted him 'The Flash' movie (and Batgirl if that had came out).
@@trika91 True. A standalone is currently the only way I could see it being good even with James Gunn taking over, but I guess we'll see if he'll eventry to touch at all after, well, whatever is going on with that. As much as the MCU has become a mess after _Endgame_ (somewhat predictably), it's still difficult to comprehend that the DCEU a full decade later is *still* more of mess--as seen with pretty much every DCEU movie this year--as someone who grew up with the DCAU.
Sigh. It would be nice if DC could *finally* get its crap together for the live-action movies if they insist on doing them rather than only having like done five good ones out of the last thirty they've made (and actually released--R.I.P. _Batgirl_ movie).
I've ironically/unironically loved Kiss from a Rose for over a decade - I never knew it was made for Batman Forever. The fact that it was, just makes me love it even more.
Same
It was not made for batman forever, it was just featured in it. I mean I guess the music video was though
Not a fan of the chorus for my entire life I thought it was Grave but it’s The Grey and that makes no sense because The Grey isn’t even a 90s film
I just love it because of Community
Fuck, only now I got to that point in the video and of course Marcus included the Community scene hahahahahahaha
39:35 the quote is from the movie “Beverly Hills Cop”
MARCUS ITS BEEN A MONTH WE NEED PART TWO
UPDATE: IT FINALLY DROPPED LETS GOOOOO
The thing is, it just keeps me watching over and over again in anticipation.
hes prob having copy right issues again
that's a good point@@Bluefire6567
@@Bluefire6567 fucking warner brothers
Tell him to quit playing BG3 and make some god damn content
Nelson Riddle working on Batman is the same energy as Marc Webb directing Spiderman
I'm glad that Marcus has the "batman does not kill" rule so high in his judgements.
Yes, although counting the thugs in the '66 movie is not fair at all. They die due to Penguin accidentally using heavy water to rehydrate them, nothing that is Batman's fault
I would agree... and yet his low ranking of Michael Keaton's Batman is just an inexcusable take. Michael Keaton = Best Batman FIGHT ME!
@@travistotleit’s very, very, veryyyy excusable
@travistotle I will. He's the worst on screen Batman.
@@travistotle *Holds up picture of Kevin Conroy*
You still want this fight boy cause I will stomp you into the mud.
The '66 Batman managed to work with the restrictions of the Haye's code and made it a comedic masterpiece
My favorite thing in batman and robin is when mr freeze informs the audience that after the heat death of the universe everything will reach absolute zero in the end. And then in a scene later supplements the phrase “say cheese” with “say freeze”. What an absolute masterpiece
Every line out of Freeze's mouth is pure joy, especially because you can see how much fun Arnold was having. 😂
I will say there is only one thing Clooney did well. His Batman showed a sliver of humanity when dealing with Victor at the end of the movie. He pleaded with his humanity to save a life. That is very rare for any live action Batman to pull off and I appreciated that.
That's more of a writing thing than something Clooney did.
"I don't give a fuck about the crime rate, I can deal with that. I can get like a Ring doorbell or something." Top tier take
Rent is probably like $12, but the average pay per hour is like 63 cents.
51:45 Ahhh man I love how the 90s and the 90s only found a cohesive way to blend adult themes, imagery, and jokes into children’s movies. And the children being none the wiser while the adults are sitting there laughing their asses off. It’s literally the only decade where this happened nonstop wherever you went. Sex was very much in the air and on the brain all the time. They definitely should’ve checked the water supply lmaoooo
12:42
Hmm, you gave Adam West a B. B is for Batman, but B also sounds like Bee, the number one pollinator for plants. Plants are controlled by the nefarious Poison Ivy. Ivy is also the name of a League of schools known world wide for being among the best. Best also rhymes with West.... Great Scott Robin, he named Adam West the Best Batman!
I can’t say I disagree with that title.
I am a scientist that specializes in bees. The science on this checks out.
@@Gabefalconbthank you bee scientist
When I was little I had a t shirt of the 89’ Batman logo and I was obsessed it. Definitely the coolest poster out of all of them.
Man I used to have one of those t-shirts too, I had it like into the mid early 2000s and it was just tatters at that point but it was so dope I didn't want to toss it.
And how many people had the Robin logo t-shirt? Zero.
Robin was introduced to give Batman someone to talk to and appeal to kids. So Batman spends his nights punching the crap out of extremely twisted criminals and decides to GROOM a kid to do the same. Any idea what kind of trauma would forever scar a young mind?
So yeah, anyone who thinks Robin is a good idea also sucks just like Cosmo. What he likes or dislikes is super arbitrary like if he had that particular Batmobile that movie is good. LAME.
That dude in blue watches cosmonaut???????💀💀💀
@@dangerfly Batman didn't groom Grayson. He took him under his wing because he didn't want to see Grayson turn into another Batman, another vengeance fueled psychopath (even if he's pretty cool and in the right).
Batman taking in Grayson allowed Grayson to get the closure on his parents death that Bruce never got. The closure that stopped Grayson from becoming another Batman. The closure that instead cemented him as Robin and later on turned him into Nightwing.
Shouldn't it be '89 instead of 89'
I still remember the chills I got watching Tim Burton's Batman for the very first time as a kid. The Gothic-style cinematography, Danny Elfman's haunting score, and Jack Nicholson's iconic Joker performance left an indelible mark on me that has stayed with me to this day. It was like stepping into another world, one that felt both familiar yet eerily unfamiliar at the same time. And when Michael Keaton emerged from the shadows as Bruce Wayne/Batman, it was nothing short of breathtaking. This film ignited my passion for superhero movies and set the bar high for what a comic book adaptation could be. Truly, it remains a classic masterpiece that continues to inspire and delight audiences of all ages. To quote a friend of mine who recently watched it again, "This thing is nicer than my apartment."
Sorry Tim Burton is racist so you can't say this
Aside from this thing being nicer than my apartment, I had totally forgotten about "Robin drying laundry in a *cool* way". The accompanying reaction at 44:26 was brutally funny
I truly believe Val Kilmer could have been considered one of the best actors for Batman if he was given the right script and director.
My favorite quote from Patinsons Batman is when he said “this thing is nicer than my apartment”. Truly inspirational.
Its crazy how the cops in Batman 66 love Batman and salute to him, despite the fact that the comics and in basically every other version of Batman ever, the cops absolutely HATE Batman with a burning passion.
Super excited for the Killing Joke review!! My favorite scene comes after the Joker enters Gordon’s apartment and shoots Barbra in the spine. He says “There are nicer places than this apartment” What an absolute mad man
I went to the cinema to watch this after hearing all the hype about the comic, what a letdown lol
Honestly glad to see someone acknowledge that Nicholson's Joker is arguably more dangerous and darker than Ledger's; I will wholly accept that the latter gives a better performance overall, but nothing from Ledger straddles the line of 'dark' and 'hilarious' as the 'I'm glad you're dead!' bit from '89.
I also appreciate that '89's Joker isn't locked into the typical Batman/Joker stories we get these days, where Joker's cruelty is neverendingly escalating to try and get Batman to snap and Batman just goes 'Hrrn' and throws him back into Arkham. Nicholson's Joker doesn't give a *shit* about Batman beyond the fact he's stealing his spotlight, and it's pretty refreshing these days.
He said "more chaotic" in reference to his mannerisms, nothing about being "darker and more dangerous." Which one is more dangerous is debatable, as both rack up a pretty high body count and do a lot of damage to Gotham city. Ledger was far more manipulative and cunning, but Nicholson was arguably more "evil" as he seemed to just kill for the fun of it, whereas Ledger had a specific philosophical agenda that he wanted to prove.
However, Ledger definitely takes the spot for the darker Joker, with the reason being that he actually succeeded in harming and killing main characters. Nicholson only killed a bunch of minor side characters, whereas Ledger killed Rachel and psychologically destroyed Harvey Dent, turning him into the disfigured Two-Face. Then he forced Batman into becoming a political martyr for Gotham in a desperate resort to maintain peace. The actions of Ledger's Joker simply had bigger and deadlier consequences for the main characters. To me, that leaves a much bigger impact than Nicholson saying an evil line to a fake looking skeleton, making him the "darker" Joker.
Probably because Nicholson's Joker is an actual gangster. I mean, he's still insane, but moreso in an average Mafia way.
Ledger's Joker is just all around psychotic in the "point" he's trying to make.
I think he’s way better than ledger
@@mediakira6621 i agree
59:22 I never noticed this until now. Clooney is still wearing the sonar suit, but Robin is in the red suit from the beginning of the movie. This means they got back home from a big fight and saved the city from Mr. Freeze, yet Robin decided the first thing to do was to switch to his favorite costume. He’s even behind Barbara, implying he was the last one to show up to Alfred’s almost dead carcass. 🤣
32:53 I agree about the voice, but I want to emphasise, Talking not Stupid growly whisper, Kevin Conroys bat didn’t growl like an edge lord he spoke with gravitas, he sounded like an authority figure, it’s intimidating but he also sounds like someone who could tell a kid who he saved that everything is going to be ok, James Gunn please give us a Batman who has a human voice
You describing the opening scene from Batman and Robin has me dying. One part missing is when Batman and Robin clap shoes together and skate blades magically come out of them 😂
I cannot even begin to describe how happy I am that your reaction to the naming of the Bat-ladder was EXACTLY the same as mine when I first saw this film.
I always feel the Christmas spirit coming on when Cosmonaut drops the mega review, and I can safely say: This thing IS nicer than my apartment!
Super late but…
“This thing is nicer than my apartment!”
lol the Regal bit literally killed me😂😂😂
These videos are such an essential part of my holiday season every year. They also blow my mind because they count as a year marker and it never feels like a year since the last “end of year video”
Fun fact: Max Shreck was supposed to be the second film arc for Billy Dee Williams' Harvey Dent ending with the accident and the third movie being him as Two-Face, but WB straight up didn't want a black villain. So they paid out BDW's three film contract. They ended up doing the same thing after Damon Wayans was cast as Robin. There were Robin action figures made for either Returns or Forever that are clearly molded to look like Wayans but painted so Robin is white.
But apparently Burton is racist 😭😭😭
@@oskarlisinski8807 I mean, at the time, he kind of was. And so was WB.
@@aweso100 Because he wanted one of the main character to be black? Fuck off
This is false. Daniel Waters, who wrote Batman Returns, has stated multiple times that Dent was never intended to be in the Max Schreck role. Dent was supposed to be a completely side character in returns, slowly showing his decent into madness by flipping a coin to decide if he was going to get himself involved in the whole shenanigans going on
@@jonjones6764 Honestly can't blame people for believing Shreck took Dent's role, because the idea of him being Dent is so clearly what should've been done in the first place. Also its a half truth seeing how WB did have to pay Billy Dee Williams off of suing them.
Love it when batman delivers his classic line, “This thing is nicer than my apartment”
18:21 you know he was uncomfortable right? Keaton had mad claustrophobia he couldn’t move anything apart from his limbs in the suit
There are actually deleted scenes for Batman Forever where hes discussing if he should kill his enemies which changes the whole feel of the movie. I think you can still find these scenes online.
That Batman cosplay intro was one of the greatest thing I’ve ever seen. Thank you Marcus.
I like the part in Batman ‘66 when he turns to the Joker after being kidnapped and says “this thing is nicer than my apartment”
45:02 wasn’t expecting that Community clip but I’m so glad you included it bc that episode was my first introduction to Kiss From A Rose 😂
literally what I said ‼️
THE ULTIMATE VIDEO IS HERE. marcus thanks for all the time you put into these since your twitter shows you put a lot of effort in lmao
The best birthday present I’ve ever gotten. Thank you Cosmonaut.
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday
Happy Birthday!!
Happy expulsion from the womb!
Bad birthday (*evil laughter*) 😈😈
I really took a step back and looked at how much editing and effort would have to go into this video being made and it's only a part 1?! I seriously appreciate these videos and gotta give credit for all the work put in.
also i want to point out he has to be editing it recently since he had the OD by Kojima reaction during Batman and Robin lol. That was from Thursday.
i wanna point out i appreciate the script is very clearly his own, he wrote this and didnt just copy paste or use ai
I am so glad to see you gave Batman Forever the love it deserves.
It's also my personal favorite.
You know its the Christmas Season when The Cosmonaut drops an hour long franchise review 🎉
I will say, the masquerade ballroom scene with Bruce and Selina in Batman Returns is one of my favorite scenes from all of the movies
Same. I also love the first scene with Bale and Hathaway.
I like when Batman walks into the batcave and goes “this thing is nicer than my apartment!”
My grandmother grew up in the city where the dock scenes where filmed and she was even in the bomb scene in the background it’s super cool
Obligatory "i've been waiting for part 2 since last year!" joke
I genuinely love coming back to this channel and these videos. Hearing someone be able to express some of my same thought and sentiments on a topic in a well made video makes me put down my phone and say "This things nicer than my apartment." then immediately proceed to waist another 8 hours of my day.
Marcus talking about his Batman Forever action figures is actually very pure and sweet.
I remember getting the Batman Forever batmobile for Christmas when I was 7. I still have it!
I still have a few of the McDonald’s glass collectors cups. I actually somewhat liked Batman forever and thought Val Kilmer was not a bad Batman. Underrated film
I cried when the Joker said, "This thing is nicer than my apartment." CINEMA
“This thing nicer than my apartment.” - iconic.
Really fair takes across the board. Still have a soft spot for Keaton, but damn is Forever the most underrated Bat Film???
My family is going through a tough time right now, but watching Marcus again made me feel better.
Seeing you speak so fondly about Batman Forever makes my heart sing! It's such an iconic ride and most likely influenced my love of color palettes. Seeing Jim Carrey return as a villain in Sonic 2 also drummed up all of those Riddler vibes. 😂❤
Soundtrack slaps too. Seal, Offspring and Method Man?! Come on
42:39 for the longest time, I thought that smile of batman was some sort of meme edit, I don't know if I'm either glad or concerned that it's actually real
Be glad about it, it’s the only reason why Kilmer is my favourite batman, he’s also really hot as Bruce Wayne
This is honestly one of the most entertaining hour long videos of any sort I’ve ever seen. Hilarious man
Can’t wait to hear Marcus discuss The Dark Knight vs The Batman. Personally I gotta take The Batman, but I did get chills when Harvey woke up in that abandoned building strapped to oil drums with the love of his life on the other end of the phone and said “This thing is better than my apartment”.
Your editing is so on point. The cuts, the add ins, the jokes. Your channel is a joy to watch.
I know he's a minor character in the Burton films, but Billy Dee Williams as Two Face would've been really cool to see
When Marcus said the Batman Forever toys were "nicer than his apartment" I cried tears of bliss. Truly Citizen Kane levels of writing
i love how markus went from "idk about the X-men" to "I love them so much"
reading chris claremont changes a man
Every Ultimate review has a character arc.
You’re one of my favourite reviewers that appreciates funny cringe films
52:56 is taking me out 🤣🤣. He really did want that pizza ig. Gough trying to cry is killing me
Batman returns as a child to me was disturbing. Catwoman getting her powers stuck with me as a dark memory for years.
SAMEEEEE
If I had a nickel for every movie which depicted Catwoman as gaining magical resurrection powers from an army of supernatural cats, I would have two nickels. Which…I mean, you know the rest of the quote, I don’t have to explain myself.
@halfmettlealchemist8076 "if I had a nic-" 💥💥💥🔫
@@robertwesley7332 Yeah I deserve that honestly