I think the Aesir and Vanir here represent the two lives of the Viking. They are, by nature, farmers and traders and worship the natural world, but they're also warriors, going raiding and believing in an honorable death through battle. I am reall looking forward to your upcoming series!
Also the Norse r the Scandinavian people as a whole (farmers, traders, religious figures etc) while Vikings r specifically more the warriors and raiders who serve the Norse chieftains
The spit was probably a nod to how early mead was made, as there is a naturally occuring form of yeast in human saliva. Kvasir was later turned into mead by two dwarves. Kvas, an ancient form of mead still made today, contains beet juice, making it appear blood red.
No sane person could yawn at your videos! They are wonderful and informative and well done. Drs. McT and Zarka are just fantastic. I loved hearing this story because the children I teach at the Penn Museum seem to have no idea of this "origin" story, instead focusing on Thor's adventures and.. of course.. Ragnarok
The Vanir are featured in the poem "Om vanerne" by Oehlenschlager (1819). Some Germanic Neopagans refer to their beliefs as Vanatru (meaning "those who honor the Vanir").
The Asir, "Loki, what the hel is that!?" Loki, "That's my boy, Sliepnir." The Asir, "You're... his dad?" Loki, "His mother." Freya, "I told 'ya all about him."
Oh my Odin 🎉 excellent norse stories! ❤ hope you'll do something about the Jotunn, as well! Perhaps even the story of the kidnapping of Idunn 😃 anything with Loki mischief is a great story 😂
I thought the spit thing had to do with how Scandinavians used to make mead. As far as I remember they used to chew up bits of bread and spit it into the mix to serve as the yeast for fermentation
It's so intersting to get an outside look into something that seems so normal you've never questioned it! I love love love to see how such myths show up culturally and us about our present day culture. We are so more connected than we realize in th humdrum of daily life.
Wow, I can’t be wait making new episodes of fate/fable and I love it so much and thanks to know about story telling about new discover exploration of norse mythology 👍❤️
That was absolutely brilliant. Your telling of the story reminded me of Neil Gaiman's book of Norse mythology, and that's one of the best books I've ever read. I'm looking forward to the rest of this season
I really anjoyed this episode! And the idea of these two scholars but also fans of creating their own Pantheon sounds super fun! It reminds me of that arch in the comic Lucifer in which two girls are put in charge of a new universe where they welcome all the refugees coming from all the mythologies that ever existed with the only condition that the girls themselves, although godlike, will not be worshipped themsleves.
Whether Aesir precedes Vanir in the alphabet that Norse gods would have used would depend on what you did with “V”, which didn’t exist. If you used Uruz, instead of Wunjo, Vanir would come first alphabetically. Or, rather, fuþarkically.
Ahhh at last we millennials are sufficiently mature and in enough positions of power to bring our meme culture to even PB heckin S 😂🤣 my heart is so full. Great video, loved the style! More of this please!
Considering how mystic and alien the Finno-Ugric peoples are described in the few sources that do exist it seems outright absurd to assume that they were the source of these less warlike gods. The few preserved stories, the artistic depictions and place name prevalence all point to this mythic war representing the merger of separate Germanic traditions from different sides of Scandinavia. There's no linguistic, genetic, archeological or textual evidence to support the idea that the gemanic peoples of ancient Scandinavia had any significant exchange of ideas with the Finno-Ugric peoples.
I think the Vanir are from the Fins or related Uralic tribes in the area. The Finnish word for old is “vanha” so maybe “vanir” originally meant something like “the old gods”? We know that Odin / Woden ( as well as Gandalf) we’re inspired and influenced by the Finnish god, Vainemoinen. And even Loki was possibly influenced by the Finnish witch Louhi. Odin / Woden started out as the leader of The Wild Hunt, a psychopomp of ghostly storm winds from the animistic belief that the wind was spirits. At some point, he was elevated and replaced Tyr and Thor in the Zeus / King / All-Father role. He became more of a wandering wizard associated with wisdom and poetry after the Germanic tribes encountered the Finns and Vainamoinen. Maybe because both were associated with wind, so they were culturally merged together? Similar to how the Vanir and Aesir exchanged a few gods in the story. These are my thoughts and theories, anyway.
"This old myth about two warring groups of gods is an analogy of two pagan cultures merging and the conflicts that arise as they tried to cooperate for survival" Me: "Yeah, that was pretty obvious"
I have to speak against the idea of Sami being Vanir. The Sami were not the only group present during the time (according to some, they were not yet present at all. Remember, we are talking about Neolithic Scandinavia here). It is far more likely that a former group of farmers came to be remembered as Vanir, while the Indo-European, Corded Ware culture offshoot, known as the Battle Axe culture, represented the Aesir. The Sami were nomads are still such to a large extent. Today they are mainly raindeer herders, altho this is a relatively recent development. Going back further they were hunters and gatherers, focusing mostly on raindeer hunting.
U know the crazy thing is that we in Sanskrit refers forest and greenery as Vanya or vana just like the Gods Vanir .. And violence as a asuri (demonic) And yes in Vedic Hindu literature Asuras and Daevas are actually brothers
Great video! Fate & Fabled and Monstrum are some of my favorite series on RUclips. Love hearing about different mythologies from new perspectives. I do have a request, though. Would you guys mind looking up pronunciations for some of the words you use? It's a selfish request on my part, as your presentations are always top teir, but the pronunciations throw me off a bit sometimes. In this case, Æsir would be said more like "a-seer," with the "a" pronounced like the "a" in "act." Vanir would be "wah-neer" or "vah-neer." Both would have emphasis on the first syllable. Hope this doesn't come across as rude!
This was great! I love learning why the mythology may have come about. It was starting to sound pretty politically complicated, more than the short, little moral narratives. If this myth arose as a way to explain to two different cultures why they now live together, that makes sense as to why it is so complicated. Sort of like the story of like the story of the Roman Empire switching to Catholicism because Constantine prayed for victory and won the battle (if I am remembering what I learned in Catholic school correctly).
Sweet Friggin Hel, the pronunciations in the video... ask a linguist next time, please (Jackson Crawford, mayhaps?)! Some of the things that ticked me off: ° Stress in Nordic words is nearly ALWAYS on the first syllable, never the second. AE-sir, not ae-SIR, VA-nir, not va-NIR, et cetera. Stressed vowels are typically indicated with an accent (á, é, í, ó, ú), sometimes not though. ° Vowel phonology depends on the language (especially with the modern-day inland languages), but with Old Norse, Icelandic and Faroese it's actually quite consistent: A is "ah", E is "eh", I is "ee", O is "oh", and U is "oo", with stress typically making the sound longer, with the Old Norse and Icelandic exception of Á, making an "aw" sound in Old Norse and "ow" sound in Icelandic. My sources: Jackson Crawford pronunciation guides; Some google and wikipedia; I'm not a native Icelandic speaker, so don't quote me on anything. If I came off as harsh/nitpicky, I'm just passionate about Norse-anything, and dislike bad pronunciation :/ (Btw, Kvasir is KVA-seer, not kuh-VA-seer)
Yeah this goes for many of my favourite YT channels. I think it may simply be a matter of difference in research routines. In the US, online content creators will put a lot of effort into fact-finding and fact-checking, but they will rarely ever bother to look up the pronunciation of unfamiliar words, including foreign names. And so they just make up their own pronunciations and run with that. 🤷 I still love this channel to death though. 🤍
I kinda figured the war was the proto indo european sky-god culture reaching the end of its rope in the alien lands of the north and having to coexist with the earth gods instead of conquering them. Incidentally, a lot of aspects of Ragnarok sound like they could recount a volcanic eruption and a severe volcanic winter such as 526 AD.
Weird stories like this is one of the reasons why I love mythologies.
***religion not mythologies,don't forget Christianity was the first pagan religion
@@manolososadavinci1937 Christianity? Pagan? *REALLY*?
I think the Aesir and Vanir here represent the two lives of the Viking. They are, by nature, farmers and traders and worship the natural world, but they're also warriors, going raiding and believing in an honorable death through battle.
I am reall looking forward to your upcoming series!
Also the Norse r the Scandinavian people as a whole (farmers, traders, religious figures etc) while Vikings r specifically more the warriors and raiders who serve the Norse chieftains
The acting bits are cute! I also like that this format seems a bit more chill and casual than the previous season! "THIS EPISODE, I LIKE IT! ANOTHER!"
The rhyming cuplets you introduced the episode with was a brilliant usage
That was all the brilliance of Dr. McT!
@@pbsstoriedplease cover the reincarnating romance between Shiva and Parvati
The spit was probably a nod to how early mead was made, as there is a naturally occuring form of yeast in human saliva. Kvasir was later turned into mead by two dwarves. Kvas, an ancient form of mead still made today, contains beet juice, making it appear blood red.
No sane person could yawn at your videos! They are wonderful and informative and well done. Drs. McT and Zarka are just fantastic.
I loved hearing this story because the children I teach at the Penn Museum seem to have no idea of this "origin" story, instead focusing on Thor's adventures and.. of course.. Ragnarok
Sssssooooooo ADORABLE!!!!!! I loved this episode!!!!!! And it looked like y’all had fun making it!!!!!
We honestly have the best time together-*Dr.Z*
@@pbsstoried Norse gods
@@pbsstoried that’s wonderful! And it shows in the videos! Keep up the amazing work and thank you so much!
"Bugs Bunny Gambit" is freaking hilarious to describe that scene. Also, love those magic cards used!
would love a video about the other underrated creatures of norse myth, such as sköll and hati, who are fenrir’s sons!
Exactly. Storied did an episode on sirenhead so it isn't out of the question either.
The Vanir are featured in the poem "Om vanerne" by Oehlenschlager (1819). Some Germanic Neopagans refer to their beliefs as Vanatru (meaning "those who honor the Vanir").
The Asir, "Loki, what the hel is that!?"
Loki, "That's my boy, Sliepnir."
The Asir, "You're... his dad?"
Loki, "His mother."
Freya, "I told 'ya all about him."
The costumes and role play was epic! Great job! Love to see more episodes like this. ❤
Really enjoyed this collaboration between you two skilled researchers! Thank you.
This will be awesome! My wife's family is Scandinavian and mine is Germanic & English, so I'll be sharing these with our boys.
This video came out on my birthday! Also great job you guys.
Oh my Odin 🎉 excellent norse stories! ❤ hope you'll do something about the Jotunn, as well! Perhaps even the story of the kidnapping of Idunn 😃 anything with Loki mischief is a great story 😂
I had never heard that Fenrir had sons! I definitely would love to learn more about them.
I thought the spit thing had to do with how Scandinavians used to make mead. As far as I remember they used to chew up bits of bread and spit it into the mix to serve as the yeast for fermentation
Two of my favorite people, talking about one of my favorite subjects 😄
It's so intersting to get an outside look into something that seems so normal you've never questioned it! I love love love to see how such myths show up culturally and us about our present day culture. We are so more connected than we realize in th humdrum of daily life.
6:58 Fun fact: Æ, as in Æsir is near the end (second to last in Icelandic) of the Icelandic, Norse, Danish and Faroese alphabet.
Great! Honestly DrMcT if I wad ready to do a deep dive on smurfs!
Choice!
Wow, I can’t be wait making new episodes of fate/fable and I love it so much and thanks to know about story telling about new discover exploration of norse mythology 👍❤️
That was absolutely brilliant. Your telling of the story reminded me of Neil Gaiman's book of Norse mythology, and that's one of the best books I've ever read.
I'm looking forward to the rest of this season
Thank you so much for the lesson AND the laugh! You two were great.😂
I love the fact that Odin is holding the Jelling goblet! Awesome detail.
I forgot to mention, I also really loved the skit! More costumes!
"The Bugs Bunny Gambit" that's a good one 👍🏽😹 I loved this episode!
Y'all is a treat and one we all needed. Thanks Doc's.
Looking forward to the compiled pantheon. Might make a D&D world using it. 8^)
💖💓💗👏 Awesome! I can hardly wait for more episodes!
I really anjoyed this episode! And the idea of these two scholars but also fans of creating their own Pantheon sounds super fun! It reminds me of that arch in the comic Lucifer in which two girls are put in charge of a new universe where they welcome all the refugees coming from all the mythologies that ever existed with the only condition that the girls themselves, although godlike, will not be worshipped themsleves.
I love the pop culture references. Great episode, and I'm looking forward to the next!
I DEMAND THAT THE STORY OF SMURFHEIM BE TOLD! Also I want a Smurfheim flag.
i love that you find stories i have never heard of before. this channel is awesome!
You two are so adorkable. 💜💜💜 ladies after my own heart!
Love the new format! Keep up the great work. ❤❤❤❤
Super excited for this season!!!
This is so wholesome! 💚💜 I love the idea of the mixed pantheon!
What a delightfully silly yet informative episode!😂🥰🙌
There should be a feast for all cast and crew with dishes (or just foods) from the cultures of all 10 gods! Maybe Beryl from Pan Pals could help?
This season's format is really cute
Whether Aesir precedes Vanir in the alphabet that Norse gods would have used would depend on what you did with “V”, which didn’t exist.
If you used Uruz, instead of Wunjo, Vanir would come first alphabetically. Or, rather, fuþarkically.
lol That was great. Looking forward to more episodes. Thank you.
Ahhh at last we millennials are sufficiently mature and in enough positions of power to bring our meme culture to even PB heckin S 😂🤣 my heart is so full. Great video, loved the style! More of this please!
Loved that the spit pot was a crockpot 😂😂
And thank you for the knowledge with a side of entertainment 👍
Such great content and told in such a fun way!
I love these Stories, and the hosts are so awesome!
Great start to the new season!!
That was excellent, thank you!
omg amazing video as ever!! and i'm so excited to see the rest of your pantheons! such a fun idea
My favorite episode to date!
Living forever is only good with eternal youth.
Considering how mystic and alien the Finno-Ugric peoples are described in the few sources that do exist it seems outright absurd to assume that they were the source of these less warlike gods. The few preserved stories, the artistic depictions and place name prevalence all point to this mythic war representing the merger of separate Germanic traditions from different sides of Scandinavia. There's no linguistic, genetic, archeological or textual evidence to support the idea that the gemanic peoples of ancient Scandinavia had any significant exchange of ideas with the Finno-Ugric peoples.
I think the Vanir are from the Fins or related Uralic tribes in the area. The Finnish word for old is “vanha” so maybe “vanir” originally meant something like “the old gods”? We know that Odin / Woden ( as well as Gandalf) we’re inspired and influenced by the Finnish god, Vainemoinen. And even Loki was possibly influenced by the Finnish witch Louhi. Odin / Woden started out as the leader of The Wild Hunt, a psychopomp of ghostly storm winds from the animistic belief that the wind was spirits. At some point, he was elevated and replaced Tyr and Thor in the Zeus / King / All-Father role. He became more of a wandering wizard associated with wisdom and poetry after the Germanic tribes encountered the Finns and Vainamoinen. Maybe because both were associated with wind, so they were culturally merged together? Similar to how the Vanir and Aesir exchanged a few gods in the story. These are my thoughts and theories, anyway.
Thank you both for the video 👍🏻
"This old myth about two warring groups of gods is an analogy of two pagan cultures merging and the conflicts that arise as they tried to cooperate for survival"
Me: "Yeah, that was pretty obvious"
Idunn!!! I played idunn in a play when I was younger. 😁
I will be fascinated to watch this hodge-podge pantheon evolve :-)
02:56 Bombastic side eye, criminal offensive side eye
Now we know where the "spit on it" truce comes from.
11:02 "I low key (Loki) would wear this..." Wah-wah-wah.
I have to speak against the idea of Sami being Vanir. The Sami were not the only group present during the time (according to some, they were not yet present at all. Remember, we are talking about Neolithic Scandinavia here). It is far more likely that a former group of farmers came to be remembered as Vanir, while the Indo-European, Corded Ware culture offshoot, known as the Battle Axe culture, represented the Aesir.
The Sami were nomads are still such to a large extent. Today they are mainly raindeer herders, altho this is a relatively recent development. Going back further they were hunters and gatherers, focusing mostly on raindeer hunting.
U know the crazy thing is that we in Sanskrit refers forest and greenery as Vanya or vana just like the Gods Vanir ..
And violence as a asuri (demonic)
And yes in Vedic Hindu literature Asuras and Daevas are actually brothers
Also as a request, I'd like for there to be a few episodes of the Slavic Deities as they receive very little attention.
Great video! Fate & Fabled and Monstrum are some of my favorite series on RUclips. Love hearing about different mythologies from new perspectives. I do have a request, though. Would you guys mind looking up pronunciations for some of the words you use? It's a selfish request on my part, as your presentations are always top teir, but the pronunciations throw me off a bit sometimes. In this case, Æsir would be said more like "a-seer," with the "a" pronounced like the "a" in "act." Vanir would be "wah-neer" or "vah-neer." Both would have emphasis on the first syllable. Hope this doesn't come across as rude!
God i love this channel so damn much
You didn't mention the part where Loki drank from the cauldron and invented the Spit Take.
This was a super video, and I love the poetry! 😂
Hail to the Aesir! Hail to the Vanir!
That's a fun idea making a pantheon with other gods😊
Etymology question for Dr Z: Is there any etymological PIE link between the words Aesir and Asura?
Thank you Storied team for the videos.
The correct word is Æser (one “Ås“ and female «Åsynje». It stems from a form of Germanic “Anzus” (Etruscan language «Asier») and means Gods.
And no,you can’t compare it to Asura (Ahura) at all :)
This was fun I really enjoyed this!
This was great! I love learning why the mythology may have come about. It was starting to sound pretty politically complicated, more than the short, little moral narratives. If this myth arose as a way to explain to two different cultures why they now live together, that makes sense as to why it is so complicated.
Sort of like the story of like the story of the Roman Empire switching to Catholicism because Constantine prayed for victory and won the battle (if I am remembering what I learned in Catholic school correctly).
Totally off topic but that scar on Dr. McTier's (sp?) shoulder and arm is very cool. I wonder what the story behind it is
I keep thinking of the Norse gods featured in “ God of War” 2018 and “God of War -Ragnarok”
❤🤍💙 all your videos mam👍especially this one because it's about NORSE GODS.
Oh dear. You have totally missed the opportunity to use correct Viking poetic metre, i.e. 1,2-1,2,3 in each line.
That was epic 😂😂 Well done!!!
Sweet Friggin Hel, the pronunciations in the video... ask a linguist next time, please (Jackson Crawford, mayhaps?)! Some of the things that ticked me off:
° Stress in Nordic words is nearly ALWAYS on the first syllable, never the second. AE-sir, not ae-SIR, VA-nir, not va-NIR, et cetera. Stressed vowels are typically indicated with an accent (á, é, í, ó, ú), sometimes not though.
° Vowel phonology depends on the language (especially with the modern-day inland languages), but with Old Norse, Icelandic and Faroese it's actually quite consistent: A is "ah", E is "eh", I is "ee", O is "oh", and U is "oo", with stress typically making the sound longer, with the Old Norse and Icelandic exception of Á, making an "aw" sound in Old Norse and "ow" sound in Icelandic.
My sources: Jackson Crawford pronunciation guides; Some google and wikipedia; I'm not a native Icelandic speaker, so don't quote me on anything.
If I came off as harsh/nitpicky, I'm just passionate about Norse-anything, and dislike bad pronunciation :/
(Btw, Kvasir is KVA-seer, not kuh-VA-seer)
Yeah this goes for many of my favourite YT channels. I think it may simply be a matter of difference in research routines. In the US, online content creators will put a lot of effort into fact-finding and fact-checking, but they will rarely ever bother to look up the pronunciation of unfamiliar words, including foreign names. And so they just make up their own pronunciations and run with that. 🤷 I still love this channel to death though. 🤍
@@kenster8270 I'm European, so that tracks lol
@@BjornIdiottsonn As am I
Fun Fantasy Pantheon gaming 🥰🥃🥃
7:00 I for sure thought Dr Z was gonna respond that the Norse used runes not the alphabet. Missed an opportunity!
Small thing, biut Old Norse always stressed the first syllable in a word. So VA-nir rather than va-NEER, AES-ir rather than aes-EER.
Wonderful content.
I'm always pining for more!
I loved the skits in this one XD
those are some lovely roses
Kvasir, one of my favorite drawfee characters
Loved it 😊
Oh I like this idea!!!! 🎉
Mimir! Where‘s Atreus?
I kinda figured the war was the proto indo european sky-god culture reaching the end of its rope in the alien lands of the north and having to coexist with the earth gods instead of conquering them.
Incidentally, a lot of aspects of Ragnarok sound like they could recount a volcanic eruption and a severe volcanic winter such as 526 AD.
You guys are so cool and funny !!!😂
I LOVE SKITS
Aesir/Vanir = Hunter/Gatherer.
I noticed the Ai art for thumbnail don’t think I didn’t notice.
Idunn is still a fairly common feminine name in Norway. The pronouciation puts the emphasis on the first syllable, with a prolonged I... I-dunn.
Someone make Smurfheim ASAP
there is no PBS food link ....
How come you refer to each other with your titles, but the captions and slides refer to you with your first names?
I hope Kali is one of the 10 deities chosen
I hope that you know, but the viking did not have horn on their helms. :)
They had something else on their heads(I do not know what that would be.).
@@solidonseraindogthetenth1679The gjermundbu helmet? It's a relatively well-known type of helmet for the vikings
@@BjornIdiottsonn Sorry. I am not an expert on any thing norse except their mythology.
@@solidonseraindogthetenth1679 Well enough. Though, where were you getting at with "they had something else on their heads"?
@@BjornIdiottsonn Not sure. I just know it's not the steryotype.