#29 - Reviving an old Laptop with Antix-23 and Vanilla Dpup-10

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  • Опубликовано: 26 янв 2025

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  • @rtos
    @rtos 11 месяцев назад +5

    Antix is the best for old computer hardware. Ive a file server running headless on an old P3 desktop with Antix, and it runs perfectly.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, it's my favorite ultra- lightweight distro.

  • @rmcellig
    @rmcellig 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video!! I have been using puppy Linux for years. It's still my favorite distro!!!!

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks! I ran it for years as well. But once my son got a bit older, I needed something with a password. But yeah, Puppy is great once you pass the initial learning curve.

  • @Sithhy
    @Sithhy Год назад +4

    I like the way your desktoip looks like, especially the top bar. Could you elaborate more on that?

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +2

      Hi Sithy, it's just a modified xfce panel. If you check out my 2nd video, it walks you through the process of customising XFCE.
      My dad's laptop just has a more simplified twist on the same type of layout.

  • @radekalicanin8808
    @radekalicanin8808 Год назад +8

    Q4OS linux distro runing very nicely on the small Acer Aspire One D270 with 2GB of ram memory. The Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE) is amazing.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +2

      Sounds interesting. I may take it for a spin and make a video of it in the future. Although my main machine can handle any desktop environment, I have a fascination and admiration for the lightweight distributions.

    • @radekalicanin8808
      @radekalicanin8808 Год назад +2

      Intel Atom porcessor 2GB ram 1.6 ghz, 64bit..... powering on with power tools battery 20v 4A , toy

    • @chrisbowring4298
      @chrisbowring4298 Год назад

      Interesting... I've an old MSI Wind netbook with the same specs. Works fine on AC but long dead battery. I'm curious, can you elaborate on the "power tools battery" you mentioned?

    • @radekalicanin8808
      @radekalicanin8808 Год назад

      @@chrisbowring4298 Simple, just look for the appropriate laptop connector and connect it to the battery. I made a battery adapter on one side and a laptop power connector on the other side.

  • @DeirdreYoung1
    @DeirdreYoung1 8 месяцев назад +2

    APU A6-6310 has a Passmark of 1670 - awesome case for Antix. It's my refurbish-old-potatos-to-give-away distro of choice, with Xubuntu for slightly better hardware.

  • @ihabmidhat
    @ihabmidhat 4 месяца назад

    i cant make my puppy Linux open on my old computer, it opens on the other computers?
    who did you make the boot drive?

  • @MatthewMcGuireJr
    @MatthewMcGuireJr Год назад +3

    I really enjoyed antix myself very nice distro.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      I totally agree, although the default file manager is not as good as thunar or pcmanfm.

    • @MatthewMcGuireJr
      @MatthewMcGuireJr Год назад +2

      I totally agree that was one of it downsides but i like the stock terminal that was shocking .@@tambuchalinux

  • @davidziebarth5915
    @davidziebarth5915 Год назад +1

    what is the Distribution you use on your main machine? not your dad's.. but the one you're presenting with.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      Hello, the one on my machine currently is Archcraft. It's comes without a whole lot of apps pre-installed, which I actually like. I have a couple videos out on it.

  • @kborak
    @kborak Год назад +4

    I use new kernels on old hardware. Do it daily. 6.6.3 on a core2 duo right now. It works like a tik. Not sure where you got the idea that older kernels are better for old hardware. If it needs support for hardware that has been removed, perhaps you are right. But, there is almost always the option to patch in what you need when compiling the kernel yourself. Im going to go out there and say as well, that compiling and patching a kernel is not that hard, its just something you need to do to learn it.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +3

      In general I don't see any need for newer kernels if you have older hardware, unless there are major security patches or amazing new features. I would go with an older LTS kernel myself. Newer kernels will no longer have drivers for really ancient hardware, but exactly how ancient, I do not know.
      Anyhow, your points/advice has been noted, thanks. I am always open to critcism, but whether I accept that criticism or not is up to me. But once again, thanks for your input.

  • @DrewBlue32
    @DrewBlue32 11 месяцев назад

    Can you share some text of the desktop changes you made? It looks good.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  11 месяцев назад

      The Desktop is a custom Xfce panel, with Plank as the dock.

  • @RuiBarEdits2
    @RuiBarEdits2 Год назад +1

    Did you try Linux Lite?

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      Yes, it's just Ubuntu with Xfce and to be honest, I customise XFCE better.

  • @stevejohnson1321
    @stevejohnson1321 Год назад +1

    I'm surprised a 2014 processor lags, although TDP is kept low on laptops to increase battery life. I'm currently dealing with an i7 870. Granted it's first-generation, but stutters youtube --- even when I kicked the ram up to 24G. I can't complain as I didn't pay anything, but my i7 2600 -- one generation newer, runs Kubuntu without a hitch. It just goes to show, everything 64-bit isn't "gold." At least I got some learning done in the process.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      If your hardware is a desktop pc, just throw in a cheap used video card like a gtx 750ti and it will run videos like a champ.

    • @stevejohnson1321
      @stevejohnson1321 Год назад +1

      Thanks for the tip, although the system already has a radion x1300 card. The i7 870 is unusual, as there is no video branch built-in. So even though the HP 8100 motherboard has VGA, that port can't work with this CPU chip. I hadn't seen such a thing since the 386 days. A used low-profile card is more costly than it should be. I gave the system to Mom so she can play solitaire.

  • @dueeek
    @dueeek Год назад

    Looks cool, but I'm missing a crucial bit of info to judge this system, how much memory does it have? I'm running Arch on an ancient, cheap Intel based Lenovo laptop with an Nvidia GPU, and if it didn't have 4gb RAM it would be completely unusable, current web browsing requires minimum 4gb as just running Firefox with a few light tabs open consumes up to 1.5gb. If your dad scrolls on Facebook I imagine firefox would eat up 2gb only on that tab, with an ad blocker - which is required as in my experience uBlock consumes less ram than having ads loaded.
    forgot to mention, resurrecting old machines with lightweight Linux is amazing! You did a great job with this one. I got a couple machines I could bring back to life, but was never sure what distro to pick. Your choice made me consider antiX. How is your dad's experience with it going? All machines I could bring back to life are meant for people who are very used to Windows, so your experience could help weight out some pros and cons.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the detailed comments, the computer is actually not that old (2015) but the APU is just not that powerful. But it does have 8GB of RAM which is plenty. My dad uses Puppy, just because it runs as root, so no need to even remember a password. He only uses it for RUclips and internet, but I have set those internet apps run as user spot, so they don't actually run as root;
      it's a thing unique to Puppy Linux. But for my own use case nowadays, I would choose antiX as my top choice for lightweight Linux distros. The holidays have made me lazy, but I do plan to make a series of videos on installing and customising antiX soon, right after I do a review of Arcolinux.

    • @dueeek
      @dueeek Год назад +1

      @@tambuchalinux Oh thanks for the info on Puppy and antiX, both sound like nice options for people like your dad, or the ones I could set up linux for. That is an odd combo IMO then, but nothing unusual for Lenovo. 8gb is plenty for that use case, a machine a friend of mine has (also Lenovo) has a better CPU that even supports Win 11, but only 2gb ram lol. I upgraded it to 4gb but Windows 10 runs terribly, so these tips will definitely come in handy!

  • @Aryzuo
    @Aryzuo 8 месяцев назад +1

    antiX is fantastic for low-spec / crappy / old computers. I happened onto a laptop with an a9120e APU, a crappy 32gb EMMC and 4gb of ram, not all that much better than the one in your video. Came with windows 10 and was overall an unusable pile of junk even after I stripped it down with CTT's tweaks and several others too.
    Running antiX though? It's actually a usable computer. You can do basic tasks with it, it can even play 1080p video on youtube smoothly!! (before it would drop frames even on 480p videos, this is a massive jump). And it has 24gb of free space instead of the 700mb free with windows.

  • @infotruther
    @infotruther 11 месяцев назад

    What does tambucha mean?

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  11 месяцев назад

      Nothing. I just made it up Tam B. + Kombucha = Tambucha
      I guess it could mean "Tam likes kombucha" (But only GTS the ginger flavour one) It is an aquired taste, but it tastes like really strong ginger ale to me, and I find it invigorating. The rest of my family doesn't like it, so more for me!

  • @prussian7
    @prussian7 Год назад +1

    What model was that?

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      Not sure, the label for the model number is so faded, that I can't read it.

  • @mss2981
    @mss2981 Год назад +9

    You forgot about the SSD, Linux is not always the way and you will probably still be slowed down even with light distros. Even without recording the screen, Firefox will take a while to open. SSD first, always.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +8

      True, but distros like Puppy load the entire OS in Ram, so it's more dependent on Ram speed and CPU (in this case APU) speed.

  • @M12545
    @M12545 Год назад +1

    How old is that laptop ?

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      That APU came out in 2014, so that's the oldest it could be, but it's not a high-end chip. I used the cpubenchmark website and got a score of 1661 for it. For comparison, my 10 year old i7-4770 has a score of 7050. A fairly modern Ryzen5 5500 has a score of 19,523.

  • @aperson1181
    @aperson1181 Год назад

    how do you add your own boom menu entry?

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад

      Items in the menu are usually decided by the files located in /usr/share/applications. They can be opened with a text editor (with sudo priviledges). If you are new to this, I would make a backup of whatever desktop file you are modifying.
      There are other ways in certain window managers like Icewm and Openbox. This is more complicated, but I will make a more in depth video on customizing icewm in the near future.

  • @xdanic3
    @xdanic3 Год назад

    I tested linux on my older computer because it had been a while since I used linux in on the bare metal, I'm using an i5-5200u which on benchmarks is x2 - x3 times as fast, it has half the cores but with multithreading is like it had 4. I'm using Debian 11 because I wanted to see what the latest gnome 3 experience was before upgrading and because first I wanted to break the system installing everything and getting to know linux now that I have programming experience/mindset to help me modifing config files and some "obscure" configuration...
    After that long introduction, let me tell you gnome runs perfectly fine on that machine and so did windows 10 with multiple Chrome tabs + photoshop + Illustrator + Indesign and that was with 8Gb of RAM back in 2018. Also with an SSD. I even booted up my first PC, a core 2 Duo P84000, to see how it compared with windows vista and it even used less RAM on idle, 800mb vs 1Gb, so Idk why you wanna go into something so minimalist, I think xfce might run just as well on that machine and it's quite a bit more funcional. I guess if you only use a computer as a web browser bootloader it makes sense to have a more stripped down system.
    Also if you plan on reviving old PCs, consider telling people to use piped dot video instead of youtube, having different front-ends for heavy social media webpages is great, I always say that the computer is only as slow as the slowest program you run on it.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад

      Hi there. I like your mentality of going deep under the hood of things. But not sure if you watched the entire video. In the end, I settled on Puppy Linux for my father since it runs in root, but the internet apps run as user "spot". Original Puppy was Jwm, but the final product was a custom Xfce setup with the plank dock. Thanks for your input. As for AntiX, I just have a fascination with Icewm..I realize that I am part of a Linux minority in that matter.
      Edit: Puppy does not require my dad to remember to enter a password to access anything.

    • @xdanic3
      @xdanic3 Год назад +1

      @@tambuchalinux Sorry, I watched the video but didn't think that was xfce since I didn't know about those docks, althought config UI did indeed look like xfce, my bad.
      The default puppy theme that shows in the shutdown menu, idk what tht uses, I think is gtk2 maybe? It'in the future I hope I can contribute with some themes for the community, right now I'm adventuring in low resources distros to make them look a bit better and consistent, when I saw the shutdown menu it made me think that was puppy's default enviroment. I also started with puppy on the last year and a half was one of the first distros I tried and confused me a bit, who digs more deep than the average user, althought I see how that wouldn't be a problem for a less experienced user. Right now I was trying to polish the Sparky themes. I'm also interested in minimal linux distros so I can render big blender scenes there even on more powerful machines :P.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад

      No worries, and good luck in your future endeavors.

  • @MindCaged
    @MindCaged Год назад

    Kind of nice, I might have to check out antiX, I have a really cheap netbook-style laptop I got after my uncle passed and it's severely underspecced, it's a bit shocking to know it came out in 2021 considering I have a dell desktop with a CPU from 2009 that feels more responsive and has more horsepower, the only advantage it has is hardware video decoding, and the potential to upgrade to 8 GB single-channel RAM, though I didn't bother since it sucks so bad doubling the RAM won't do much as that's not the bottleneck. I also don't know what idiot who designed these things made the choice to solder the storage to the board instead of having something swappable, there's just so many reasons that's a bad idea. What if you need more space? What if the drive dies? Which considering it's basically an sd card it most likely inevitably will.
    I tried Linux Mint XFCE and a version of puppy linux, I think surprisingly the puppylinux might have been worse, it's been a while I can't remember. I think it might not matter what OS I put on it, it's still going to like this one take several seconds to load the browser, and the CPU is almost always going to ramp up to 100 percent doing anything but idling. I honestly wish I could come up with something practical for it that would justify its existence, as it's /technically/ a working computer and I'd hate to have to throw it out, but I'd also feel bad if I inflicted its horrors on somebody else by donating it. Best I can come up with is stuff that takes little to no processing power, maybe plug an external hard drive in and turn it into a file server, it has an HDMI out so if I had a wireless keyboard I could maybe use it as a media player since the video decoding works and it seems to be able to play at least low res youtube. I have no idea if it could run emulators, probably at least the older games.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад

      Yeah, if the laptop is that slow then, I would probably take it apart, buy a controller board for the screen and make an external monitor out of it. There are quite a few good videos on YT about that.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад

      It might be powerful enough for light emulation using Batocera or something similar.

  • @dylanlindsay1993
    @dylanlindsay1993 Год назад

    chrome os flex is really good for older computers too! chrome os doesnt allow much for customizing and stuff but its really good for old core 2 duo macbooks and stuff! just add a ssd first!

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад

      Most people are unaware that ChromeOS is a custom version of Gentoo Linux.

  • @elu9780
    @elu9780 11 месяцев назад +1

    antiX is damn excellent. I use it on my weak Lenovo ThinkPad 110-15IBR laptop (do not buy it), which has Celeron N3060 and 2GB of DDR3. I also use it on my main system, which has Ryzen 5 5600, 16GB 3200MHz DDR4, and RX 6700 XT. I am surprised that system as light as antiX can be used comfortably on pretty much anything, old and new, weak and powerful.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  11 месяцев назад

      Agreed! The memory management is top notch! IceWM doesn't look half bad in AntiX either..but I can make IceWM look better 😉

    • @elu9780
      @elu9780 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@tambuchalinux it took me a bit of time to figure out how to customize some stuff, so there's still plenty of way for antix to go until it's completely comfortable to use. For once, taskbar customization is a big damn mess. However, it's good enough for me as is, and I intend to use it for a long time. I don't mind text interface or manually editing configs, so there's that.

  • @aperson1181
    @aperson1181 Год назад

    why is this better than Mint?

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +2

      They are both faster and lighter on system resources than Mint. But if your computer can handle it, Linux Mint is less of a hassle to set up.

  • @DV-ml4fm
    @DV-ml4fm Год назад +2

    Get your dad a chromebook for Christmas. It's time for a new laptop. 🙂🌲🧑‍🎄

    • @MitchellJBridges
      @MitchellJBridges Год назад +2

      That's a bad idea, just use an old laptop with openbsd.

    • @DV-ml4fm
      @DV-ml4fm Год назад +1

      @MitchellJBridges He said his father isn't tech savvy. A chromebook is more suited because his father just do basic stuff on the web.

    • @MitchellJBridges
      @MitchellJBridges Год назад +2

      @@DV-ml4fm You don't need to be tech savvy to use KDE, Mate or XFCE desktop environments. Aside from the point that Chromebooks are ewaste upon a year of purchase.

    • @DV-ml4fm
      @DV-ml4fm Год назад +1

      @@MitchellJBridges True. Everyone can learn. The son can show him how to use the KDE desktop and other basic admin stuff. I would prefer freebsd over openbsd as openbsd is more server oriented.

    • @MitchellJBridges
      @MitchellJBridges Год назад

      @@DV-ml4fm I love FreeBSD, I can't see any point of returning back to Linux.

  • @relaxingnature2617
    @relaxingnature2617 Год назад

    Why didn't you load a Google Earth icon for him ? .. everyone I've ever met enjoys Google earth

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад

      To be honest,that thought never even crossed my mind.
      I guess I could add an icon for him the next time I stop by his place. Thanks for the idea.👍

  • @fabricio4794
    @fabricio4794 11 месяцев назад

    tambucha,that is a quite name..

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  11 месяцев назад

      My name is Tam (Vietnamese Canadian) and I like Kombucha..so Tambucha!
      I was going to make my Channel with my first and last name, but someone else already beat me to it.

    • @dcdares
      @dcdares 4 месяца назад

      ​@@tambuchalinux Was the person who beat you to it Sambucha?

  • @candidob8683
    @candidob8683 Год назад

    Very cool video. I think you're dad will appreciate it. Great way to keep old hardware alive...
    I would imagine Lubuntu would also be a great option for this machine. Lubuntu ruclips.net/video/qnuaxCliZNI/видео.html
    Would Elementary OS be an option on this hardware? Elementary OS 7.1 review - ruclips.net/video/AB6HVpEybQg/видео.html
    Another option might be LinuxMint XFCE - ruclips.net/video/ABAW5_hD0mo/видео.html
    Top 3 Linux Mint XFCE Customizations Of 2023 - ruclips.net/video/PztQnycbn4Q/видео.html

  • @windsofdestruction
    @windsofdestruction Год назад +2

    i have a laptop even less powerful than this, it runs linux mint smoothly

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      Actually Linux Mint was the first distro I tried on that laptop. It was pretty smooth, but not as quick and responsive. Not by a huge amount, but noticeable.

  • @Nobody_256.-qj3kd
    @Nobody_256.-qj3kd Год назад

    My father: Why should I use a laptop when I have a smartphone 💀

  • @relaxingnature2617
    @relaxingnature2617 Год назад

    Why not install an SSD and then try Windows 10 first

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +1

      Multiple reasons: Windows is bloated, has a lot of telemetry, requires an antivirus, so all this would make it a lot slower than a lightweight Linux. Also, my father is not an office worker. All he needs is a web browser. First I installed Firefox, but later, I replaced it with Chromium, which is Chrome with less telemetry.

    • @mohammedF976
      @mohammedF976 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@tambuchalinux Does Win 10 has windows Defender or is it only Win 11?

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@mohammedF976 Yes, Win11 comes with Windows Defender, because Windows will break easily without an antivirus. I never used an antivirus ever on Linux, and it's perfectly fine. (Less bloat running in the background)

    • @dreamybull1509
      @dreamybull1509 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@tambuchalinuxwindows 10 comes with defender what are you on

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  7 месяцев назад

      @@dreamybull1509
      I think you are missing the point. Linux runs perfectly fine without any antivirus software at all. It's both more secure and more efficient than Windows. The only major advantage Windows has, is that some proprietary software and games were built for Windows only.

  • @rkdeshdeepak4131
    @rkdeshdeepak4131 Год назад

    That's a commie distro

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад +2

      Lol..nah the one made by North Korea is a commie distro.

    • @RedSntDK
      @RedSntDK Год назад +1

      If you can't stand by the "anti fascist" mentality, I don't want to know about your politics.

    • @tambuchalinux
      @tambuchalinux  Год назад

      @@RedSntDK This channel is not about politics. I was just
      kind of jokingly pointing out that North Korea has its' own OS, which is a version of linux.
      And of course I am against facism.

    • @rkdeshdeepak4131
      @rkdeshdeepak4131 Год назад

      @@RedSntDK If you are commie, you already know nothing.

    • @chrispop99
      @chrispop99 10 месяцев назад

      The person behind antiX lives in Greece, the home of democracy...