How Grosjean's Career Disintegrated...
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Romain Grosjean enters the final round of the 2023 Indycar season without a guaranteed race seat for 2024, having been dropped from Andretti and the 28 crew. So after all the promise and potential... how did we get here? Today I break down Grosjean's Indycar spell and find out!
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His Indycar Stint was almost a reflection of his F1 years. You could see glimpses of pure pace in a slower cars and then he started to bottle it every race
Story of his life
Exactly. Romain is super talented when it comes to pure pace. Even in F1 he had at least the pure pace of drivers that have gotten into top teams such as Bottas or Perez.
The guy just couldn't help but bottle it in important moments
Just like Hulkenberg but better.
@@kohikappu hulkenberg is clear the better driver lol
@@Tatamo1989 Not really, Hulkenberg lacks his mentality and race pace as a driver, always succumbed to pressure by the time he almost finished on the podium place or battled for the lead, 2019 Hockenheimring was the latest example of this, or 2012 Interlagos for the earliest. Meanwhile, in Grosjean, you would see a more fast but consistent albeit having his own eccentric moments sometimes - if Grosjean wasn't really, well, being Grosjean he would've got at least a win.
I wish Grosjean had stayed with Dale Coyne Racing. His results were good and he was getting more out of the car than I think most people expected. In addition, he had an opportunity to build a team around himself as a team leader. Not so at Andretti. Sometimes, the grass isn't always greener. Some of his troubles were simply bad luck, but not all.
And on the other hand I'm sure a whole hill of moolah helped convince him to leave the safe space of Dale Coyne Racing..... Romain's experience coupled with Andrettis bid to get into F1 may have been another interesting factor here and may even well become so albeit most likely with Romain not in a racing role....
Exactly.
Same here. Big mistake driving for Andretti.
@@jkcesko3597 agreed, Grosjean deserves plenty of criticism but he finished 13th in the championship this year while Herta was 10th and Kirkwood 11th, it's not like his teammates have outperformed him that significantly. "There's something off at Andretti" is getting to be a bit of a cliche but their results show they don't belong in the same discussion as Penske or Ganassi right now.
@@RyanTennant Even McLaren have overtaken Andretti as the 3rd best organisation. If Rahal Letterman continue their form they'll probably 4th by next season.
Grosjean has long admitted to mental health issues stemming from earlier crashes. Somehow the fireball actually seemed to help him resolve some issues. But I think he has The Fear as we used to call it. The unforced errors, the frequent dives to the safety road to avoid contact, the wrecks. He's a lovely guy. Fast racer. But he honestly needs out of single seaters. But talking about mental health in racing is forbidden so let's all just call him a wuss apparently.
Literally all the likes of Hamilton talk about is 'mental health'. Anxiety is not a 'mental health' issue, its a normal human emotion. People like you are obsessed with classifying normal human emotion as 'mental health' issues. So yes, stop being a wuss, and man up.
Actually, he’s a talentless wuss.
Mature comment 👍🏿
Very sensible comment and food for thought
It would be interesting if he went to endurance racing
Romain Grosjean. The wayward, accident-prone speed of Andrea De Cesaris and the troubled desperation of Jean-Pierre Jarier, all rolled into one driver.
Excellent analogy. He is absolutely the de Cesaris of Indycar. Not old enough to remember much about Jarier, except that James Hunt apparently didn't like him much.
elegantly put 😂
He's basically the modern Tomas Scheckter of IndyCar. Only difference is Tomas Scheckter won a race...
haha spot on. i have never disliked a driver as much as grosjean. his incessant whining and complaining about other ppl is abhorrent.
if he'd have spent as much time on himself as he did others, he'd probs still be in f1
Many don't remember "Decrasherous" But I never compared unlucky Grosjean with him.
Will, are you sure the title should not be: 'How Grosjean's Career Went Up In Flames...' ?
I’ve seen you’ve learnt from him 😂
💀
better yet, ‘how grosjeans career was extinguished’
«melted»
That is a harsh burn
It is crazy how it took a nearly fatal crash for people to actually see the nice guy side Grosjean always had throughout his career
It's the near death privilege. Put some dramatic music over the crash, and put it in a "documentary" apparently aimed at juveniles, and suddenly people like him. Before that, he was universally reviled by the F1 community and fanbase.
I hope this is some kinda joke.
People were forced to no longer voice their honest opinion about him, because it's common etiquette/sense to not say negative things about someone who nearly died.
If you think they weren't all happy to see him go (from F1), I just don't know what to say. I mean, it's obvious, ain't it?
They didn't want him dead, they just wanted him off the track.
No one saw it because he kept it very well hidden under an annoying, accident prone, angry exterior shield.
@@Croga True yes, but off the track he definitely was one of the nicest drivers in my opinion. I feel like very few fans were really understanding of him and his journey.
I watched an episode of F1 on sky back in 2015 interviewing Grosjean about his podium at the Belgian GP that year when he went into detail on how he spent months visiting a psychiatrist in regards to the accident he caused at the 2012 Belgian GP and how much he regretted it
Sometimes after Bahrain like Crashes (Geoff Bodine Daytons Truck) The drivers lose their fear of death and can improve, for a while and will sometimes drive closer to the 'edge'
I was at barber this year his driving was incredible. If his team didn't choose the wrong pit strategy he would have gotten first instead of just second
The sad thing is that his team chose the right strategy, but Sting Ray Robb's yellow came out at the exact moment that the Penskes on the alternate strategy needed to pit. So where Romain should have been 25 seconds down the track comfortably in the lead for their final stint, he had to start their final stint with them on his back bumper. And he STILL fended McLaughlin off all the way to the dying moments of the race, and STILL converted it to a podium finish. If not for Sting Ray, he absolutely would have won at Barber.
It has definitely been painful as a Grosjean fan. Some of his issues have definitely been mistakes of his own. But in the last half of the season, it’s largely been bad luck and bad strategy. The same thing has been happening to Herta. I hope he stays on the grid.
I totally agree about Roman's strategy sometimes it was so obviously wrong your left wondering how it could happen
And I thought Grosjean had already been roasted enough in 2020…
Yikes
🤣
Ai...
Gonna need an ice pack for that one
Harsh but still funny 😂
Romain has always been fast. Super fast. Just inconsistent. It’s a shame. He has so much talent.
Andrea De Cesaris indeed.
Detroit wasn't a unforced error , It was a suspension failure, you can see it, also when it came to indy, grosjean was 18th due to engine failure on the very last lap which wasn't caught on the broadcast, it was after a very great fight up the field after he got caught in an incident with Scott Dixon
Brother youre fighting a losing war. I tried to stick by Romain in indy and after crash after crash after crash after crash you’ll see what we see now. Man sees points opportunities and all of sudden hes playing bumper cars
@@DrTortoiselle I obviously mean it failed before he hit the wall you fucking idiot
@@BigPapiChihe's just telling the truth lmao he's not fighting any war
The Andretti team posted on socials confirming it was caused by a suspension failure on turn-in, not driver error, but I still to this day see people thinking he crashed on his own in Detroit. He did not. It, like the vast majority of his other issues, was not really his fault
Marshal Pruitt been sitting on a story about Grosjean and Andretti.
I don’t have much going on in my life. So I’m looking forward to it
Yeah, he said he’s going to talk about it after the season finale. He’s making it sound like it’s a big deal. I’m really wondering what it is.
@@Bolt_theG35 Andretti to F1 with Grosjean making his bold return to the sport alongside them
@@leyj_ I’ll have to believe that when I see it. Andretti is still getting so much crap and pushback from the F1 owners.
@@Bolt_theG35they are talking about making a deal to where if Andretti pays over the 200m amount he is in and the teams won't complain.
@@LimitPro1 to my understanding he already paid that or said he has no problem paying that. Part of the reason he’s backed by Cadillac.
Romain has had an a rough second half to the season for sure but I think Colton has also looked dreadful and incident prone (especially with the pit limiter). The only person at Andretti that can win is Brian Herta.
This is just a horrible year for Andretti.
And Kirkwood
I also would like to point out that Andretti sucks at building a friendly environment.
Grosjean is the perfect example of what a champion ISN'T. All the raw speed, feel and natural talent to be a winner, with none of the mental strength and grit seen in every multiple world champion
Grosjean is careless, lacks situational awareness and he doesn't learn from his mistakes. Obviously he is not stupid as a person but he kind of is as a driver.
During his Formula 1 career most of his crashes were because he misjudged the situation or randomly lost concentration when nothing out of the ordinary was happening. It's not like he melted under pressure or didn't work hard. Sometimes he had good days and sometimes bad days and they were not really affected by anything that was happening within the team or on the track.
I couldn’t have say it better
Grosjean is careless, lacks situational awareness and he doesn't learn from his mistakes. Obviously he is not stupid as a person but he kind of is asa driver.
During his Formula 1 career most of his crashes were because he misjudged the situation or randomly lost concentration when nothing out of the ordinary was happening. It's not like he melted under pressure or didn't work hard. Sometimes he had good days and sometimes bad days and they were not really affected by anything that was happening within the team or on the track.
Grosjean is literally in therapy for PTSD from an earlier. But talking about mental health in racing is forbidden. Somehow almost dying in a fireball helped his outlook. But he's had issues for a long time.
Exactly. You look at someone like Scott Dixon who might not have the fastest pace but - to borrow a term from Jurgen Klopp - he’s a "mentality monster" who just keeps finding a way to get it done. Grosjean is fast, but he wouldn’t need luck if his form was consistent. He just doesn’t have the discipline to be a top driver. He’s obviously beyond the likes of Robb, Pedersen, and DeFrancesco, but not a threat to the top drivers in IndyCar. He’s worth another season, but only one.
I say this as an eternal fan of the underdog, I've genuinely always been a fan of Romain and this season was such a rollercoaster. He could and should've been so much better, a driver who is infinitely better than his own results. He should've won a Grand Prix but it was never to be. I really hope he finds a seat next year.😅
I still root for him! He's a great dude and fun to watch and I hope he's back on track in indy next year.
He is very good and friendly with fans.
I agree I like him a lot.
He treats his crew like garbage.
@@hitmaneoin that's been the past few races, not his whole time. And who can blame him? Did you see how their strategy fucked him yesterday? I'd be fucking livid too. Besides racing causes intense emotions.
6:25 "Grosjean remembered he was racing on an oval" His car was destabilized by the shunt from Herta's unsafe release. That crash happened just a few laps after that stop.
Yeah this commentary is a few steps off the pace
he was winning at one point but down to bad strategy ended up 11th in Laguna
It is such a shame, Grosjean's 2013 F1 season was sooo good and yet he never lived up to that again
It was good, but still 50pts behind Kimi who sat out the last two races. That's more or less Romain in a nutshell, even at his very best he wasn't quite there.
Mainly the second half of the season, where Romain was the only guy actually taking it to the Red Bulls. Maybe if Kimi was being paid he would still be outshone, but I feel loads of people forget about that stint in his career.
Almost like how his 2022 and 2023 indycar seasons never lived up to the potential of his 2021 season
Fun fact, Grojean had 6 times as many podium finishes in his rookie 2012 F1 year then Verstappen had in his rookie 2015 year.
@@jessebarrett7968 his rookie season in F1 is the best season of his career.
In F1, every error he made he always blamed it on everything except on himself. So he kept making the same error over and over.. He had the talent, just not the character to become a winner.
Wasn't he hit by Eriksson? ;)
@@y_fam_goeglyd Sames goes for his alledged torpedo start at Spa. Funny that nobody talks about the one that gave him the little tick at the start. Yes, Sir I Have Forced Everbody Of Track During My Carreer Lewis Hamilton.
@@dorientjewoller113to be fair, Hamilton had a pretty decent crash record before 2021 it's just since then he's been involved in a fair few crashes.
@@y_fam_goeglydI was always hoping that Ericsson would run into him, so we could all bask in that F1 flashback…
Wish I could’ve heard what was said during that shouting match he had in the pits with a crew member late in the season. That guy was twice Grosjean’s size and could’ve snapped him like a twig.
if he was at fault he would have been the one suspended not romaine. this is the first time ive seen someone try to blame lewis for that. @@dorientjewoller113
He has a contract with Lamborghini for next year to race their new hypercar. I know that open wheel fans sort of sneer at endurance racing, but it has its fans too, and it's better than nothing anyway.
A Lamborghini hypercar contract is more impressive than any IndyCar drive...unless you drive for Penske or Ganassi.
who the f is sneering at endurance driving, that is such a rare thing
@nealmiller7849 F1 fans who sneer at any other motorsport because they think they are so high and mighty because they have no perception of other motorsports apart from F1 meme accounts making fun of other series because F1 is that boring they need to put other series down to make f1 atleast a little bit interesting
As an 'open wheel' fan I think calling the WEC 'better than nothing' quite downgrading.
It also undermines your sentiment a bit...
@@mischavanasperen3063 Sorry, didn't quite mean it this way. I was referring to the title of this video, trying to convey that Romain's career hasn't quite "disintegrated" yet, since he has this contract.
I’m just concerned that Sting Ray has a ride next year , just as Will does. Think of all the lost material if he doesn’t. 😂
It appears Mazaspin is still a viable target
I can't believe Sting Ray raised $9m for a ride next year. Just wild people would put that kind of money up for him. Pruett mentioned even Andretti are looking at him for Devs seat.
He seems like a nice guy.
By which I mean he's finishing last a whole lot this season.
Scorch.
Don't think he finished last more than once this season
In all honesty, every time that Romain had a chance, it just seemed like the pressure was just too great, and he just plunged into errors, not major crashes, but just a light tap with enough energy to break the car. Romain is a really good driver in Indycar, but after all of the near wins, you can see that the frustration really got to him. It really is sad.
just forgot to mention that he has a seat in iron lynx for the 2024 hypercar season at WEC and maybe IMSA
Grosjean is definitely an enigma. Sato is, being charitable, prone to the occasional stupid incident, yet somehow he's all the more endearing for it in a way that Romain just isn't. Something of the Jean Alesi about him. You get the sense a win would unlock a world of potential, but he just doesn't seem able to get out of his own head.
Sato is less naturally gifted, but never throws a strop. He learns from his errors and improves. Grosjean? He allows his emotions to cloud his judgement time and time again.
@@crystalracing4794 I was jumping for joy when Sato won the 500, but even though I'd be pleased for him, I just don't think Grosjean would provoke the same visceral reaction in me. Strange.
I think Romain does deserve to stay in Indycar, on his day he is extremely fast, he just needs somewhere where there is no pressure, there's far too much of that at the big 3, they can be rather quick to chop of any wood that is even slightly dead. He would be great for Dale Coyne again, and they'd be great for him.
Why not just hire someone who can handle the pressure? If he can't after 15 years of F1 and Indycar, it's not going to happen in the future.
I had high hopes for the Frenchman when he first got here. It was awesome watching him in person make passes in his first ever oval race at Gateway in 2021.
Two things. Detroit was a suspension failure BEFORE he hit the wall. Indy GP 2 he got stuck after that pile up in turn 4. Ruined his race. Everything else I’m with you on
I do think Andretti need to take some responsibility for how Romains time with them has gone. They’ve let him down about as many times as Romain’s binned it on his own.
Also he’s more than a match for the golden boys, Herta and Kirkwood. Give him back the results from St Pete and Detroit (again, not his fault) and he’s right there with them in the standings
Fingers crossed he goes back to DCR. Perfect environment for him to reset and chase that elusive win in 2024
I knew he’s shown he can win races in IndyCar, but couldn’t close the deal :( I feel like he was better in the #51.
Awful that Grosjean and Andretti don’t see each other eye-to-eye nowadays
In the 51 he drove calm, cautios and collected. In the 28, he went back to win it or bin it. Most often binning it. And always arguing or even shouting at his crew. I guess after Road America Andretti was finally fed up enough.
@@Cloney1337 yeah he was better in the 51. Also the only balls of steel moment was when he sent it to Jimmie coming into the corkscrew and he finished 3rd.
But as for the 28, I thought things would get better and there was some promise. And yeah, the relationship isn’t working anymore.
I know he’s got the Lambo stuff, but man it would be cool if he reunited with Dale and Rick
Probably replace the entirety of the 28 crew
He can’t handle stress. He had very little stress/expectations driving the 51
@@randygravel2057 for someone who had a little bit of stress in the 51 thanks to it being a smaller team, he did pretty well there.
He'll be on the IndyCar grid next season, everyone cool your jets. He's a talented veteran that still has a few years left in him, and he's proven that this season (even if it was only in the first half). Andretti should be looked at as a problem more than people seem to say, after all they only got 2 wins this season and fell off massively as a whole after the first one. They squandered great result after great result for Grosjean, Kirkwood, and especially Herta. I believe this will simply turn out to be a pairing that was never meant to work while Grosjean goes on to recover just fine.
He had some amazing moments at Lotus and some good moments with Andretti. I’ve actually met him and he’s such a nice person to his fans. I hope he finds a seat somewhere and can continue racing.
Wish him all the best, Hopefully he returns to fighting form in another sit.
Will like to see him in the Lamborghini LMDh next year.
He had an error-laden run with Andretti but Andretti managed to torpedo the year for every one of the drivers on the team, so perhaps a return to a team not quite so unable to handle the various disconnected directions it's determined to follow is the ticket.
I'm amazed he made it to Indy. I know it seems horrible to say, but Grosjean's fireball accident was the best thing that happened for his career at the time because he had little fans in F1 due to his accident prone nature. All of the media attention after his crash practically got him the Indy drive.
He is a destroyer of expensive cars
Hopefully Romain can get some good results in WEC next year.
He could be in IMSA instead of WEC, but either way hopefully he can perform in Lamborghini's new top class prototype
Romain deserves a spot in Indy, that is in the grand stands knitting
Andretti press: There was a problem with the car
Andretti engineers: Yeah the problem exists between seat and steering wheel
I feel this is a little over-critical on Grosjean, when in fact you need to look at Andretti Autosport team as a whole this season. They've been off the pace for the vast majority of the season, epecially on ovals. Also look at Romain's team mates, Herta is 10th and Kirkwood 11th in the driver's standings, with Romain 13th.
Andretti needed to look at themselves before their drivers, but in typical American fashion, the employee gets the blame rather than the management who run the operation.
That Grosjean crash still gives me chills
Hopefully he can bring it home for the 51 team next year
Consistency is one of the top priorities in motor racing. If a driver starts to attack the walls or the scenery on a regular basis is a bad career move. It's a pity, he's bought a light plane, that may become a hangar queen.
Thanks for a great video I look forward to more.
I read under the Bahrain video that “it took him almost dying for people to love him”. But Will won’t let him be😂
Certainly one should keep in mind that driving in the indy grid is much harder than f1. There are far more cars racing reducing space making it so much easier to have pile up after pile up. The most important in my opinion would be the difference in driving standards, indy really needs to work on that.
Man, I was so happy to see him come to America and race, he did look like he was going to be a consistent front runner in the beginning. Maybe there's a chance he stays and he can sort himself out. He is fast, just needs to keep his eye on the ball a litter better. I am rooting for him.
Grosjean: I think Ericsson hit us
Ericsson: yeah boi hit yo career 😂
Scottie Mac passing him at Barber broke him.
He immediately stopped his social media, his youtube, and started to get really frustrated with the team.
That pass at Barber was RoGro's last straw.
To continue - They both entered the league together. He was BETTER then Scott in their rookie year. That pass. The way he blew all of the P2P within 2 laps of being passed. That was it.
Don't think that broke him. He was never going to win it anyway. The poorly timed yellow allowed the 3 stop to work. His 2 stop fuel save was never going to be enough. I think he knew he lost on strategy and not pace.
@@lucasday7330 But then his social media went from 100% to like 0 almost immediately after that race. He went from interviewing people on airplanes to a short Barber video, a shorter IndyGP video to nothing basically immediately.
For whatever it's worth, any cat that still has the chutzpah to get back in a seat after Bahrain is a winner of sorts in my book.
Thanks for your channel. Brilliant commentary - superb sense of humour! Love it :) On the reality of Grosjean - how on earth can he be wanted by any team with his track record! Clearly some people have more money than sense.
They were probably impressed by his admittedly sheer blinding speed in the lower teams. A little bit foolish in hindsight to overlook his many on-track misadventures, yes...
This is the way he drives. How many cars did he destroy in F1? Regardless of how fast you can be.....you can't be destroying cars every other race.
There was a fight that went down within his team that involved Romain that will be explained more indept soon but that was a big reason that he was not re-signed and also a big part of it was that Romain lost DHL the team's biggest sponsor. He did not perform and no team wants to keep a pain in the ass driver that also isn't bringing good results.
I still remember that 2013 Japan Grosjean, what could have been
sting ray robb has hit the wall more than the amount of races he has started
Truthfully the guy has no luck on his side. I mean really the only luck i saw go his whole way this season was him getting into the pits before a yellow with Pato at Leguna today and put him to the top on the restart. Lots of bad breaks all season. Some forced errors, some strategical errors by the team. Hopefully DCR picks him up
Good drivers make luck. If he has none, that speaks to his lack of ability.
I'd like to see him back at DCR next year, even if only for a few races. I used to live fairly close to their shop, and I was friendly with a few of the guys there. They all had nothing but good things to say about working with Grosjean, even if they didn't always feel like they had the car to match his speed. It's a small team with a small budget. I know that a lot of DCR's personnel have been poached since then, and that 2021 might have been the limit as far as their performance was concerned, but it really seems like they worked well together.
Having never watched Indy, can't really comment on his career there, so this vid was informative there.
But as an avid F1 fan, I've watched his entire career there, where in his first career, he was fast but dangerous and in his 2nd career, he was still fast but lacked that consistency.
He joined the Haas team hoping to use that as a stepping stone into Ferrari, due to their connections but similarly he never really had the luck when the Haas actually looked competitive and as the years ticked by, the car just got worse.
So overall, he was never my favourite driver but his obvious speed meant i wished he got a chance higher up the grid but his bad luck combined with lack of consistency/concentration meant he was always overlooked.
The biggest surprise for me, was learning his replacement, though in fairness younger driver, of Ericsson, as his career in F1 was short, backed mainly by investment, as he was slow, often beaten by his teammates and u would easily have rated Romain over him, atleast in his younger F1 days.
To be honest, recently, Andretti Autosport is where promising careers go to die.
As an American who exclusively watches F1, I hope Romain is able to keep driving in Indy car. Solely so I can say, “Good for him.” on the off chance he gets a race win… just like I got to say for Erikson a couple years ago.
4:40. its 10 to 4am and everywhere is quieter than the proverbial church mouse. so, having just taken a sip of very expensive coffee you made your comment "actually, never mind that." for some strange unknown reason i found this extremely funny, which resulted in me spitting out my expensive coffee all over my laptop screen (there wasnt a lot of coffee to be fair). so thank you for making me laugh so hard i think i might have woken my next door neighbour!
Well I wanted RGJ to come to Indycar so we would see that F1 drivers are not quite the pinnacle people think. I also bore a grudge with Haas and Gunther Steiner for trashing American driver talent, while Haas was being promoted as an "American" team blah, blah, blah. At that time American driver Rossi needed a F1 seat and I felt talent wise he was on par with Grosjean. Then he comes to Indycar wins the 500, and several Indycar races etc... Then Romain comes to Indycar and I think now we get a nice match up in the same equipment and had my biases confirmed. Better yet then they drove for the same team wow this should do it. Well somewhere along the way I became a Romain fan, I really like the guy and think he is much faster than I had given him credit for. I always felt he was accident prone especially under pressure and that seems to be confirmed. Rossi has won races and been as high as high as 2cnd and 3rd in the championship. He has always finished higher than Romain so I should be happy right. No actually, Romain is clearly fast enough to win races on pure pace. Grosjean was taken out several times being no fault of his own when he was poised to win in St Petersburg and maybe in St Louis. This season Romains lack of emotional self control and dealing with his crew ruined what should have seen him much much higher in the standings. I hope he gets another shot at Coyne or somewhere and finishes his career on a high note. I also know he and Rossi were not on good terms and now have hung out together and are maybe friends on some level. That is cool honestly. Indycar is a bit better with the Frenchmen in it than not, if he can get a grip and be calm under pressure look out. I know old dogs new tricks right.
If team Andretti had managed a proper race strategy like Chip Ganassi did Romain would have finished certainly with a chance of a podium. Instead they pitted him just after he took the lead and after every other team had topped off on fuel. They crucified his race.
Michael Andretti doesn’t manage his drivers very well at all. I mean when did Herta last win a race?
That Grosjean crash still gives me chills. And I thought Grosjean had already been roasted enough in 2020….
Grosjean is an enigma. I 'followed' his career from his first GP2 stint up till now. Speed was never his problem, but he always had these very weird rookie-accidents time and time again. It just seemed he black out at time or just wasn't driving with his eyes open. Remember him shoving Webber out of the way in Turn 1 suzuka? That was batshit insane. Amazingly, when he got the big accident, people tend to look at him more favouribly. Why? He almost killed himself, he and him alone was responsible for that big accident. It was just another typical bonehead Grosjean move and he got a test drive at Mercedes out of it. The only reason he was in F1 for that long was because he was French and the only reason he stayed in F1 was his experience which was the only reason he got into indycar. He will never ever learn.
Wasn’t the Bahrain crash caused by someone going across his nose?
@@asherwiggin6456he went across kvyat’s nose
@@dannysatch6120 I see. Just went back and watched it. Thanks for clarifying
He has zero spacial awareness nor racecraft
I haven't heard much nois about how Bahrain crash was caused by the same bullshit he pulled the whole season, suddenly changing the "lanes" right in front of other cars.
Well I dont really care about his Indy Career. I want to see him getting good results in WEC with Lamborghini and hopefully being as competetive as Ferrari in their first Season.
He could be in IMSA instead of WEC as he has experience there and in America in general with Indycar, but I think there is probably not a high chance of Lambo being as competitive in 2024 as Ferrari in 2023, not to mention the experience the current teams on the grid will have over Iron Lynx with the SC63, if they are not far away, they will be doing pretty well.
Well he's now a works Lamborghini driver so it's not all bad
Right Europeans talk trash about oval racing but most of them a scared or worried about racing around them. There’s definitely more to it than driving in circles.
His career in Indy perfectly resembles his career in f1. Great start in the beginning but continued unforced errors and crashes lead him out the door
6:17 “The Romain-ing rounds of the season . . . “
Nice.
“Where driving for Lotus he started accumulating a lap 1 kill-streak”
LMAO 😂 💀
Nice compilation, humorous, could use a little more context in some of the "quick take" race summaries.
After his crash years with Lotus, why Haas picked him is a mystery.
When Haas was surprisingly good, early on, didn't he crash during a Safety car while leading?
And fumbled a couple other opportunities.
So when he started successfully in Indy Cars, it was a pleasant surprise and a great story.
Not sure how everything deteriorated so quickly in '23, after a competitive start. Definitely some glaring driver error type of lapses, though.
So now he's suing Andretti?
Becoming unemployable.
Good luck Lamborghini team getting him to discipline his driving.
indy car fans acting surprised when the inconsistantly fast guy famed for crashing every 2 races is insconsistant and starts crashing every 2 races:
Amazed that Ericsson has done a better job in Indycar than Grosjean
All Grosjean really needs is a good anger management coach. Seriously though lol he can be really quick but he gets flustered way too easy and then he becomes a complete gong show 😂
Marshall Pruett says Stingray has a suitcase full of money so he'll end up somewhere.
the only thing he's famous for is surviving a crash . .can't say i've seen him win any car race
According to people in F1, he's a great test driver. Haas got better with him in that role. Race weekends however, he's Jay Cutler. Flashes of brilliance, with mostly dismal results.
A race car driver that can't handle the slightest amount of pressure or he's gonna bin it. I loved his driving out of the gate for Lotus...and kept being a fan and kept making excuses until I finally had to admit that this guy just didn't have it. My turning point was him careening deliberately into Rahal last year. It's a shame - there was some legitimate speed there. But without mental discipline that speed becomes moot. He will never win a top tier series race. Retire and spend time with your family, man.
Looking at the last race at Laguna Seca he really showed he can send it. But all in all, that's not enough. There'll be always the Dixons and Palous, who'll both be able to send it from time to time but also can take the car reliably to the finish line and the podium as well.
Go tell Jimmy Clark, "Our Nige" and Dario Franchitti that they're scared of "driving in circles"..
His problem with Indy Ovals only goes to show the F1 elitist, who self proclaim themselves to be the best drivers in the world, that they are clearly not. Their cars maybe the best in terms of technology but the drivers are certainly not.
Shame about Grosjean, but he never seemed to handle pressure that well. Dale might take him back, but he needs to bring funding to get a ride at DCR. Off topic, I heard that Chip was looking for a pay driver for the 8 car - both DeFrancesco and Sting Ray were rumored to be able to bring enough funding for that particular ride...
The 8 car is taken by Linus lundqvist next year
If you can take the heat in the barrier you can take the heat in a one make open wheeler series in Murica.
Im sure hes just happy to be alive
Sting Ray Robb is the craziest name I’ve ever heard 😂
Do people remember when grosjean crashed out during a safety car? That was all it took for me to know he was fucking slow af
He's not slow he just makes incredibly stupid mistakes he has good pace but he always makes something stupid and throws it all away
@@random_username_thats_not_used I meant slow mentally bro
As a Grosjean fan who was at the St Pete race, I am still gutted that he got taken out. He would’ve won otherwise.
I haven’t been more sad all year. At times he’s been desperately unlucky this year. Other times he’s been awesome. Sometimes he’s been pretty meh. And at times he’s been romain goeswrong
I find the personalities of IRL kinda annoying-they are in very similar cars and they are all aggressive but get so upset, throw tantrums and then hold grudges making threats like some Busch league. Will Power one race is like I don’t care what people do,I just love being out here and next race freaking out-like a high school drama scene-Romain is at least interesting in his follies-he has big temper but isn’t usually threatening to use his car as a weapon against anyone-granted he kinda does it anyway but still
Think about this one. Grosjean was one of those accidents (Spa 2012) that sparked the debat about the Halo. And in 2020 he proved that it was the correct descision.
I hope that Roman. Gets a seat somewhere on the grid. He need a team that he would be comfortable in, and then. His results will get better. The Hass F1 team. Was at the back of the grid. Which can’t help your confidence. Then that accident happened. Which I was praying that he got out of that fireball. To see how he did get out. Was a miracle. For those who have not yet seen it. I’m sure it will be on UTube. The tub where he was still strapped into. Ended up leaning towards the armco. Narrowing his exit route. I don’t know today how he managed to get out of there. Minus one boot, and suffering burns to his hands a foot. To you the word. A miracle, is understating it to be honest. And I am not a Grosjean fan. I am a Lewis Hamilton supporter. A driver who was robbed of his 8th F1 Driver’s Championship, and the record that no one else has ever done before. The race should have finished with the Safety Car coming into the pits on the last lap. So the cars would take the chequered flag, with no overtaking to the finish line. This was caused not to happen, by the rules of the sport. By the race director, Red Bull’s Christian Horner & Johnathan Wheatley & Sky F1 commentators Martin Brundle and David Croft. Conspiring to break the rules, on the Safety Car. Coming in on the mandatory lap after Latifi’s accident was cleared. With Sky F1 commentators saying that this of legal. Which it was far from that.
I hope Romain keeps racing in top level motorsport, be it in Indy, Super Formula, WEC, IMSA or whatever.
I think he's always driving with the baggage of "what if" and trying to overdrive the car to show the world that he deserves a better reputation and what-not.
In F1 for example, he drove the wheels of that Lotus (well, also literally) and often raced around the RB and others when the car was nowhere near (and the team around Cyril nothing short of Ferrari memes). In the end the reputation of being a crash kid stuck with him.
But a lot of other fast drivers actually went trough the same, most notably Max Verstappen, Lewis Hamilton (tough his crashes were coincidentially against title rivals) and if you think way back, the likes of Senna and Gilles Villeneuve. Eventually, they had the cars to win races when it went well, rather than a top 5 finish, moving their reputation/career along.
Romain is Schrödinger's Yasuo and I want to see if he eventually hits that 0-7 Powerspike.
Racing can be an unforgiving, brutal sport.
He’s only a few months removed from being a favorite for the Indycar title to struggling to find a ride.
Brutal, brutal, sport.
Not sure why Dale Coyne would need Grosjean, unless he brings money. I really enjoyed following Roman in the F1 aftermath and finding enjoyment in racing via Indycar, but it turns out he just doesn't seem that impressive as a driver.
As Deff Leppard wrote: "It's better to burnt out than fade away"
Niel Young - “Hey Hey, My My”
Looks like he's with DCR again next year?
And he's a factory's Lamborghini driver.
I hope my career "disintegrates" like his
You know, That team seems to be the problem. They keep canning deivers and even held unsuccessful tests. I don't think Grosjean is the problem, just as I don't think RHR was the problem. I think the team has forgotten how to set-up a racecar.
Can't wait for Pruett to release details on the breakdown in the relationship with Andretti.
I had high hopes for him.... He's wicked fast when he has a good car, but once he looses his cool, he either overdrives the car or makes stupid, overaggressive decisions. Yes, many of his failures this past year have been on the shoulders of other drivers, his car, or poor strategy on the part of his team, but he has a knack for making those situations worse with his temper.
I hope he can stay in the series, I hope he can find a better situation with his team or another, and I hope he can grow to meet that awesome potential he has. We shall see.
I honestly think he's one of the more overhyped drivers.
He's fast, sure, for like 10 minutes, then does something stupid and bins the car, the only reason he's survived in Indy as long as he has is because the cars are *cheap*. Part of the reason he was dumped from F1 was because he cost HAAS too much money.
With the talent the Indy league has, I'd be surprised if anyone picks him up for '24, he's already shown he can't perform in a car *that can* and putting him in something slower would just be worse.
You can some him up as a fast idiot he has pace but he always does something incredibly stupid to blow it all away