Nintendo's Prototype Wii Emulator for the GameCube

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  • Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024

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  • @Lethaltail
    @Lethaltail 2 года назад +196

    The "Nov 5 2005" date shown at 8:03 is an artifact of me changing the date on my RVL_SDK VM to bypass the expiration date of the early RVL compiler i used to compile the System Menu shown at 5:17.

    • @ArtieArchives
      @ArtieArchives Год назад +27

      Imagine still wearing a face mask when it's almost 2024

    • @damian9303
      @damian9303 Год назад +12

      ⁠​⁠@@ArtieArchivesWhen people said they would continue wearing theirs even after the pandemic during corona time, I didn’t actually believe them. Why chastise yourself like that?

    • @ArtieArchives
      @ArtieArchives Год назад +6

      @@damian9303 What do you mean?

    • @damian9303
      @damian9303 Год назад +8

      @@ArtieArchives it’s a rhetorical question, not particularly aimed towards you but to those still wearing face masks even after the pandemic officially ended.

    • @ArtieArchives
      @ArtieArchives Год назад +5

      @@damian9303 Oh, in that case I agree with you

  • @citricdolphin
    @citricdolphin Год назад +181

    Something interesting about the Wii's design:
    It doesn't have a normal operating system. All games run on bare metal. The Wii System Menu is practically just a game built into the console, and the popup menu when you press the home button is built into every game individually.
    However, the Wii also has a co-processor called "Starlet," which *does* have its own OS. That's the one mentioned in this video. It's in charge of trying keep things secure and providing API interfaces to games (e.g. USB access).

    • @tredI9100
      @tredI9100 Год назад +27

      The DSi is very similar, there's some boot stuff that initialises things like the Wi-Fi card, and then it just kicks you into the main menu. All the apps are just ROMs, even the main menu.

    • @diamondjebgold9906
      @diamondjebgold9906 10 месяцев назад +30

      Is that why the controllers lights turn off for a small period then turn back on almost instantly?

    • @tredI9100
      @tredI9100 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@diamondjebgold9906 Probably.

    • @Naitrio
      @Naitrio 10 месяцев назад +2

      Interesting...

    • @danplaysguitar6706
      @danplaysguitar6706 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@tredI9100 does that in theory mean the main menu can be emulated?

  • @nullset2
    @nullset2 10 месяцев назад +79

    So the wii wasn't two gamecubes duct taped together, it was a gamecube, a bunch of weird boards and TWO pcs duct taped together!

    • @theendofit
      @theendofit 10 месяцев назад +5

      It was a decent amount more powerful and gamecube was more powerful then ps2. Why dont you compare the xbox one x to the series s. It is a smaller percentage improvement over it then the wii was to the gamecube

    • @rayojordan2838
      @rayojordan2838 10 месяцев назад +3

      To be fair the Wii had all of these peripherals and Wii motes so it was a Basically a GameCube with Side Activities/Mission 😂
      The Wiii U is basically a GameCube and Wii Tied together and the switch is a Wii U game pad with detachable controllers 😂

    • @iesusdesus5704
      @iesusdesus5704 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@rayojordan2838? what is 😂 for?

  • @whispercorner04
    @whispercorner04 Год назад +95

    This is like that Dave The Barbarian pun
    "And then, Nintendo engineers improvise the Gamecube succesor with a USB cable, a Linux PC and a Gamecube"

  • @jgsh8062
    @jgsh8062 2 года назад +105

    I can't believe we're STILL discovering new Wii and 3DS era stuff. Amazing!!

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith 10 месяцев назад +3

      There's still weird indev bits and hardware being discovered for even the GBA, and given newer consoles are so much more complex I doubt we'll be "done" learning about the newer hardware for some time.

  • @NewNova88
    @NewNova88 Год назад +56

    Hello right there.
    I'm an owner of 2 RVL-Ocean-X12 boards and 1 RVL-Turtle-01 board.
    I'm currently doing research to make this work and see what's inside "RVL-Turtle".
    What I can say based on exterior, and research :
    The RVL-Ocean-X12 board is an optical disc emulator. It also seem to be the power card since you have to plug a GCN AC Adapter to make it power up.
    The RVL-Turtle-01 board is a "disc" containing software or firmware. Since no one was able to make it work, nobody, even me, can theorise on what's inside.
    Since it's an ODEM, the ports to "connect to the Wii disc drive" are probably ports that connect to the Wii directly and substitute the mechanical drive. I'm not sure on this one, I have to grab another Wii to further research (and also a GCN).
    Since I have 2 boards, I can spot what's missing on the better one. It's just a matter of 1 capacitor, 3 small components (that I have on the bad board) and 1 switch. Although I might not even need the small components and the switch, because it has clearly never been there before (contrary to the capacitor which is ripped off).
    On my YT channel, I will soon do a presentation of what it is (only in french though).
    But I will, on my Twitter, provide all the small details of my progress in english.
    This board is quite mysterious and I want to know what's inside the RVL Turtle.

  • @5persondude
    @5persondude 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nintendo: "Emulation stifles innovation"
    Also Nintendo:

  • @BruceShankle
    @BruceShankle 2 года назад +29

    Wow, this looks like an surprisingly in-depth explanation of how nintendo developed the Wii... Without the Wii! Thanks for making this video, this is really fascinating content.

    • @AddableStone13
      @AddableStone13 9 месяцев назад +2

      So is the Wii just a repackaged GameCube but with extra hardware?

  • @SusiTerry
    @SusiTerry 2 года назад +23

    Was the version of Vista they used a prototype or did they get a final build early?

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  2 года назад +34

      Sorry for the confusion; they used XP, the text is just there to clarify because the footage shows Vista. - K

  • @perkanover
    @perkanover Год назад +9

    This video would be good from a channel with 5 million subscribers! Keep up the good work!

  • @NotMasterGamer
    @NotMasterGamer 2 года назад +201

    The editing quality is insane. I initinaly thought this video was from a channel with thousands of subs. I hope you don't stay criminally underrated

    • @Lanausse
      @Lanausse 2 года назад +3

      I though the exact same thing!

    • @jelly063
      @jelly063 10 месяцев назад +3

      I wouldn't say it's insane, it could be better, but otherwise I agree.

    • @Agret
      @Agret 10 месяцев назад +3

      It is now a channel with thousands of subs 🎉

    • @Agret
      @Agret 8 месяцев назад +1

      @Grayson2763 funny how quickly it can change if you get the RUclips algorithms attention. I found the video from recommended section.

  • @SylvesterAshcroft88
    @SylvesterAshcroft88 10 месяцев назад +4

    This is a pretty clever workaround, for hardware limitations at the time, and the fact that they combined all that, into one little white box, is pretty incredible when you think about it, and my original Wii still works to this day, as if it just came of the box!

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  10 месяцев назад +4

      This was just a prototype thing, it's not in the actual Wii.

  • @Karlenk0
    @Karlenk0 2 года назад +7

    Your content is very good and really informative ,you should get more visibility, i will share this video to some of my friends, i hope you do well in the future.

  • @asdfghjklNice
    @asdfghjklNice 2 года назад +4

    Subscribed! Can’t wait for the next video!

  • @cloudnsec
    @cloudnsec 10 месяцев назад +5

    Love the research put into this documentary!

  • @resucutie
    @resucutie 9 месяцев назад +2

    1:22 when you put a music that turns into meme

  • @pineapplepizza1941
    @pineapplepizza1941 Год назад +3

    great video, really in depth and explained well. i subbed

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 Год назад +9

    I realized that the Revolution known as the Wii really was a upgrade of the GameCube.

    • @damian9303
      @damian9303 Год назад +3

      So much for being the next revolution

    • @nojuanatall3281
      @nojuanatall3281 10 месяцев назад +1

      Those homemade handheld gamecubes are usually a trimmed down wii.

  • @lonely.summers
    @lonely.summers 2 года назад +5

    very well done video, i’ll be subscribing and checking out your other videos 👍

  • @frodothehobbit
    @frodothehobbit 10 месяцев назад

    Your video was really interesting few years ago I found out a way to get NDEV, RVT-H, RVT-R. The history behind all this prototype is nice to see for the public.

  • @Luke_Stoltenberg
    @Luke_Stoltenberg 10 месяцев назад +2

    What a convoluted setup

  • @maritoguionyo
    @maritoguionyo 2 года назад +3

    1:00 audio

  • @keviniaquinto128
    @keviniaquinto128 2 года назад +4

    This is a fantastic video!

  • @creeperhaed1267
    @creeperhaed1267 10 месяцев назад +11

    1:07 "Driftveil City" kicks in 😮‍💨 (some Song from Pokémon Black and White I dunno)

    • @Gogoseit
      @Gogoseit 10 месяцев назад +2

      so I am NOT alone :3

    • @espset1234
      @espset1234 10 месяцев назад +1

      Theory: I think this might be why the algorithm is pushing this video now..?😅🤔

    • @creeperhaed1267
      @creeperhaed1267 10 месяцев назад

      @@espset1234 Probably... wait, you also noticed?!?

    • @espset1234
      @espset1234 10 месяцев назад

      Oh yes I noticed😅 A few weeks back my girlfriend was dancing to some tiktok and my brain went "wait... This is familiar..." And now this tune is absolutely everywhere, and I just got a feeling the algorith has just gone full driftveil these days😅

  • @tailsmonster12
    @tailsmonster12 10 месяцев назад +2

    I LOVE PERSONA 3 SOUNDTRACK

  • @pokemonduck
    @pokemonduck 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for making the video, blurry-faced man :D

  • @KittyCatKayden
    @KittyCatKayden Год назад +2

    The last song in this video is my favorite song in AC!

  • @1leon000
    @1leon000 Год назад +3

    I really want to see the early programs on that thing, like the Virtual Console and web browser!

  • @FinalBossOfCanada
    @FinalBossOfCanada 10 месяцев назад +3

    1:07
    ALL I HEAR AND SEE IS FUCKING TOOTHLESS DANCING, HELP!

  • @mdrdprtcl
    @mdrdprtcl 10 месяцев назад

    This is incredibly thorough! Sub’d

  • @joost1453
    @joost1453 2 года назад +2

    This is very interesting

  • @Fancy2209Real
    @Fancy2209Real 2 года назад +2

    Reminds me of that LowSpecGamer video where he talked about DS Games Beeing developed without a DS

  • @morrisdennison8039
    @morrisdennison8039 10 месяцев назад +1

    Your telling me the modding community might make my gamecube into a Wii

  • @spaceghostmiid
    @spaceghostmiid 10 месяцев назад +1

    holy shit, my local games store had one of these years ago but i never knew what it was. i've been trying to find this dev kit for years.

  • @mr.withoutname
    @mr.withoutname 2 года назад +2

    this is awesome

  • @Normoe445
    @Normoe445 9 месяцев назад

    1:07 Hehe its that funny dancing meme song

  • @Bitstacker
    @Bitstacker 9 месяцев назад

    Wow that was great! You know your stuff!

  • @matty6598
    @matty6598 Год назад +1

    Nice video

  • @pepesito17
    @pepesito17 2 года назад +8

    my hamster bites me eventhough I am so nice to him

  • @hirschlord341
    @hirschlord341 10 месяцев назад

    Hope its running on swiss and co ?all tuning chips ?

  • @tatsuyamashita
    @tatsuyamashita 10 месяцев назад

    great video 🎉

  • @susposter779
    @susposter779 9 месяцев назад

    Please explain 0:57

  • @Loganjay_
    @Loganjay_ Год назад +2

    uhh why is ur intro just bass boosted homebrew

  • @alecheesacker4460
    @alecheesacker4460 10 месяцев назад

    Well! I did see GameCube Games work within the Wii!

  • @RedStoneMatt
    @RedStoneMatt 10 месяцев назад

    Very interesting documentary!

  • @JustinPennito
    @JustinPennito 10 месяцев назад +1

    That's badass!

  • @immortallix
    @immortallix 10 месяцев назад +1

    1:08 I miss when companies could have hot babes trot out the new hardware for no reason

  • @BarderBetterFasterStronger
    @BarderBetterFasterStronger 10 месяцев назад

    I get that driftveil is a banger but man every youtuber who does video essays are sure doing their best to kill it.

  • @ApertureSciencePsycho
    @ApertureSciencePsycho 11 месяцев назад +6

    3:57 Ain't no way they used arch linux to make the wii 💀
    Makes sense tho, it was released in 2002

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  11 месяцев назад +11

      They didn't, they used Red Hat.

    • @ApertureSciencePsycho
      @ApertureSciencePsycho 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@RGDRUclips, oh, so they paid for a license for something you can get for free 💀
      Why do corporations do that tho

    • @jordanl5444
      @jordanl5444 10 месяцев назад +14

      ​@ApertureSciencePsycho they're not paying for the OS, it's enterprise level customer service they're paying for

    • @ApertureSciencePsycho
      @ApertureSciencePsycho 10 месяцев назад

      @@jordanl5444 ain't no way I got ratioed in fucking RUclips repilies 🗿

  • @SelectStart89
    @SelectStart89 10 месяцев назад +1

    Subbed

  • @Markm8
    @Markm8 10 месяцев назад +1

    When people say the wii is just a overclocked gamecube there not lieing

  • @Gamez4eveR
    @Gamez4eveR 10 месяцев назад

    What is the first track, it sounds like it comes from a bootleg Persona game but I've heard it a lot lately

    • @chiptunesoprano
      @chiptunesoprano 10 месяцев назад

      The music's sourced at the top right corner of the video, it's a remix of P3's Joy BGM from Persona Q2 (3DS)

    • @Gamez4eveR
      @Gamez4eveR 10 месяцев назад

      @@chiptunesoprano ruclips.net/video/Src3czHw0sg/видео.html god this sounds so much better

  • @hershmysson
    @hershmysson 9 месяцев назад

    okay i knew the wii was already a souped up gamecube but that's wild :o

  • @Cyorg13
    @Cyorg13 2 года назад +5

    Just wanted to mention, the Homebrew Channel audio you use for your intro seems a bit loud and bass boosted. Might just be me though, as I'm wearing headphones.

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the feedback; part of it is bass boosted for added effect. Hopefully we'll get our own intro theme soon :P

  • @nintendians
    @nintendians 10 месяцев назад

    got to start somewhere.

  • @obsidianchao
    @obsidianchao 10 месяцев назад

    List of music? That first song is so familiar! Persona 3 maybe?

  • @stefanvanderlinden6042
    @stefanvanderlinden6042 8 месяцев назад +1

    now wiiu on wii

  • @spht9ng
    @spht9ng 10 месяцев назад

    I hear P3 soundtrack and like immediately

  • @kibaofficial6332
    @kibaofficial6332 10 месяцев назад

    Why do i currently hear everywhere the song of driftveil city from Pokemon gen5? xD

  • @noa670
    @noa670 2 года назад +4

    Based

  • @dggm-ce4py
    @dggm-ce4py 2 месяца назад

    I got confused reading the title

  • @AlijomoRBLX
    @AlijomoRBLX Месяц назад

    I'm happy the Wii u didn't look like that😭

  • @KoolLeo11
    @KoolLeo11 Год назад +2

    Hello! I am an editor at RGDWiki, known for the Mii page.

  • @showmangaming8255
    @showmangaming8255 4 месяца назад

    Haha Persona music go BRRRRRRRR.........

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd 10 месяцев назад

    It can’t be any stranger then this,that’s like prototyping a snes using a nes with a mmc5 expansion chip and a pc with more ram and rom to simulate 16bit graphics that way,
    1 thing I NEVER understood is why everytime you start up a wii game you will see that ugly curved background border,as if nintendo wanted to fake a curved crt screen on it dor retro gamers or something,i just didn’t like that .

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  10 месяцев назад +1

      It was supposed to mimick a wall of TVs at a store, each displaying a different channel - LCDs were new at the time and the curved CRT shape was probably seen as more evocative.

  • @matthewrease2376
    @matthewrease2376 10 месяцев назад

    Why did they use a Windows machine just for a disc drive, why couldn't they do that on the Linux machine too 😭

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  10 месяцев назад +1

      It was based on the existing GameCube disc drive emulator software for Windows, easier to use two PCs than to rewrite it for Linux.

  • @Clodd1
    @Clodd1 10 месяцев назад

    What a mess, it’s too many stuff glued together to make it work.

  • @_ja.kubix.shorts
    @_ja.kubix.shorts 10 месяцев назад

    1:07

  • @BIGwillTHEGAME
    @BIGwillTHEGAME 9 месяцев назад

    RUclips Recommended

  • @Youtube_Intro1
    @Youtube_Intro1 9 месяцев назад +1

    omg toothless meme in backroung musac blauh bauh al
    h

  • @Stinky0368
    @Stinky0368 10 месяцев назад

    Wait. So your downgrading, but upgrading? What has this world come to.

  • @Faisal-wf5hk
    @Faisal-wf5hk 10 месяцев назад

    PERSONA

  • @hirschlord341
    @hirschlord341 10 месяцев назад

    And with some modern kompression and encoding, other bit rates and taktik its running faster than a wiiu 😂😂

  • @RipeStories
    @RipeStories 2 года назад +3

    Great video but the thumbnail needs some work. I‘d suggest you use a bright picture of the gamecube with slightly better visible text. Otherwise this video was wasted effort 😓

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  2 года назад +4

      Thanks for your feedback; I tried to make sure that the text would stand out in the thumbnail, which is why the picture of the GameCube is dimmed. Even if the dim GameCube prevents it from getting more views, I don't consider it wasted effort. - K

    • @RipeStories
      @RipeStories 2 года назад +4

      @@RGDRUclips Sorry was a bit harsh, I just meant to say you deserve more views 👍🏻

  • @PseudoCode1090
    @PseudoCode1090 Месяц назад

    OMG FRENCH SUBTITLES !!

  • @sypoth
    @sypoth 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just further proof that the Wii was just a Game Pube that could take full size disks and used motion controls.

  • @kernow5000
    @kernow5000 10 месяцев назад

    People really, really need to stop putting any PCB, let alone rare ones - on a carpet! No

    • @RGDYouTube
      @RGDYouTube  10 месяцев назад

      I made sure I was static discharged first.

    • @kernow5000
      @kernow5000 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@RGDRUclips I'm going to make a blog at this point. I see it all the time. Static bubble wrap is a thing. I didn't realise that was actually your picture.
      Carpets, sofas, expensive ass PCBs and people who don't know how to care for them tsk

  • @hirschlord341
    @hirschlord341 10 месяцев назад

    😂😂 nice

  • @clamojoat1938
    @clamojoat1938 10 месяцев назад

    nintendo dont like emulators

  • @kara9180
    @kara9180 2 года назад +1

    first