Spartan Killers. Man. That sounds so cool. Haha Being charged to assassinate rogue assets on spec op missions in insurrection controlled space. The occasional alien interactions here and there curing your campaign. I’m sold. Haha
My personal idea for a Spartan V program is essentially an Orion II program. I would make it so any person in anyway way, shape or form related to flood containment would be given Spartan I level augmentations to make it much more difficult for the Flood to infect them and give them a greater chance in case of a containment breach.
I would think the next step is creating fully augmented humans at birth. My thoughts would be by carefully pairing various spartans to mate. Then keep at it till something stable occurred. Probably seed the suitable not up to par babies into random homes to grow up naturally. Eventually creating a more solid human naturally. Engineered evolution basically.
Give them three lungs, two hearts, ceramic bones, massive size, give them the ability to spit acid and not sleep for weeks without effect, oh and don't forget things like night vision and immunity from poison. Oh wait.
@@phoenixjones7191 Yeah lol. No I was just describing Warhammer 40k's Space Marines... Which do fit the "biological terminator" vibe pretty well now I think about it... Huh.
I'm no expert, but between how crazy useful Chief has been, and the surprising number of Spartan II's running around, I think it might make sense for ONI/ the UNSC to look at upgrading the armor, personal equipment, and possibly even the augmentations of Chief's generation. ONI creating yet another Spartan generation specifically to take out "rogue"* Spartans would be entirely on brand for them. As for the cloning, it would be very interesting if ONI had already been... cooking with the DNA of the Spartan II candidates they'd abducted. At this point they could be all grown up the slow way and thoroughly indoctrinated, even if "perfecting" their genes would slow them down. Of course the real John would still beat his superior* version.
Might do a video on how Spartan-IIs could be upgraded using additional augs, new armor and a few other enhancements to make them better again than a base S2!
OG Chief probably beat an ONI clone of himself for various reasons. a) Experience. Training is different from actual combat, and unless it's revealed that these hypothetical Spartan 5s already exist, and have been used by ONI in the shadows, the ONI Chief will be outmatched in this department. b) Cortana's augmentations. Whilst it's likely that Chief's Halo 4/5 Armour (Which I like to call the Cortana Model, as it was made by her before H4) has already been documented by the UNSC, Chief's new augmentations - the ones he gained from the Librarian - possibly have not. Even if a specimen is available to ONI, they probably don't fully understand it; the Librarian was able to plan genetic makeups thousands of generations down the line - even a short-term evolution would be a feat above modern humanity. c) He's the main character. Combined with his luck (I guess we're in the Nasuverse now) Chief is toting around some serious plot amor. The more interesting thing for me would be how other Spartans would fare. Whilst point A and C apply cleanly for Chief, the rest of his Fireteam, for example, aren't so lucky. Whilst a grave overgeneralisation, Chief's companions are the better than him biologically; Kelly's faster, Linda a better sniper (which implies, perhaps, eyesight and/or reactions), and when he was alive, Sam was the strongest and tallest of the Spartans. These biological superiorities could probably be mass produced, and even improved, by ONI.
@@e.v4892 not to mention fred was Overall more skilled and was the Second best Sniper on Blue team, also didn't Instillation 00 mention in one of his Spartan videos Kurt being 8ft tall in SPI armor, (plus he has a supernatural sixth sense), and Will took on a hunter hand to hand and FUCKING WON. Kelly is not only the fastest in terms of travel speed, but her combat speed and reactions are the fastest too.
The clone material would need to be pulled just after augmentations matured. It would produce a different fighter each time. Still trained ground up and be better result. Other alternative, put more through Spartan two program then breed them among each other. Let the alterations mature at dna level.
Right? Some of these videos, i can't help but wonder if there will be someone out there with the drive (and money, and equipment and such) to make just SOMETHING from the Halo-verse
@@justchilling704 Well, take some of the UNSC weapons, like the DMR, for example; as far as i can tell, it is possible to make it with modern day technology and equipment. But I'm just saying it would be nice if the things that are possible to make in Halo are made irl in this day and age.
@@justchilling704 With 4's and 2's, i would agree. The former because of how "un-spartan" they can be and the higher risk of treason and the latter because of how morally questionable it was with the whole kidnapping at a young age and many dying during augmentation. But 3's? I respectfully disagree.
Honestly though the thing is that ONI could basically do what the Emperor did to make the Primarchs and just engineer a human from scratch to grow exactly how you want. Astartes were meant to be mass produced and so Big E only made them to be able to withstand most things that they would encounter, not handcrafted like their Genefathers or the Custodes
I like to think that this is how the Forerunners started off. The Forerunners "evolved" through various at mutations at different points in their lives. I Imagine in the early days of their existence they started experimenting in similar wars to the Orion Project, and this gradually evolved into the mutations used later on. The Use of Forerunner power armour probably evolved in similar way to Mjolnir as well. I imagine that if humans continue developing the Spartan and Mjolnir programs until, over the course of centuries, or even millennia, they become as ingrained into human culture as the Forerunner mutations and "Skins" were to them. Imagine an entire race of Spartans, all equipped with Mjolnir.
Step 1: Incredibly powerful augmentations which are only possible to give to the 75 strongest, fastest and smartest out of the entire multi-trillion human population- even killing or maiming the majority of these people. Step 2: Less powerful but safer augmentations which can be given to less impressive but more numerous examples of humanity. Step 3: Augmentations which can not only be given to adults, but regular ones too. The only restriction is expenses. Step 4: It's super cheap and easy to augment everyone, so why wouldn't we? Step 5: Giving people different augmentations to do different jobs, I.E Forerunner society. I can totally see it, tbh.
That's what Humanity was before the forerunners stole the Mantle, and again before they bombed them back to the stone age while Humanity was fleeing the flood
Hypothetical logic on the Spartan V's it probably will take the best of each iteration. So the best part of the spartan II was there literally the best physical and mental candidates from the human race. So maybe the logic of the spartan II's being the genetic base of the Spartan V's incorporating positives into the genetic code from other species such as the Elites and the massive physical advantage. So working from the human peak and then adding to it with genetic engineering either directly splicing elite DNA into the spartans or if their DNA is incompatible, manufacturing the DNA and adding to human DNA during the child's conception so when it is still an embryo and sperm. And then take using manufactured or spliced DNA copying other races advantages into Humans. Creating a very strong starting point before further augmentation with more traditional mechanical and chemical alterations. From the Spartan III's there utility came in their ability to be mass trained and use cheaper but still very effective augmentations. From the Spartan IV's the fact that they could be augmented at adult hood not as teenagers is their main advantage and that basically anyone could be made into a spartan with very little down time By implementing the best piece of each of them you would have a very good start. If a Spartan V was say needed in a month and instead of making these changes at a child's conception and then having to wait 18-21 years you could use cloning. As a stop gap method of very cheap to produce clones of the current best spartan and only modifying them slightly to be a general improvement. Then you only have to train them which you could do by daisy chaining several dumb AI into a spartan using a mind interface unit like the ones used by Cortana in chiefs armour and then you would have a Spartan with a huge variety of skills at expert level at its birth. They would probably incorporate a method of controlling the population of cloned Spartans. By say putting the maximum age of a spartan V clone, say at 50 years old and effectively you would get 49 years of 100% then the last year of its life would be used to help expand the knowledge base from which the other spartans would grow. The method of killing them off would be effectively be forcing a random incurable genetic mutation that kills them when they are created. People might say that cloning all the way and then no human who isn't cloned doesn't have to fight is the best way. Its not. Basically you make them strong but the non cloned humans stronger which would keep everyone inline. The clones can't say no to being a soldier and overthrow humanity. And it stops the rest of humanity getting to fat and lazy and seeing these clones as tools and not people.
Damn near man. And honestly this proposed Spartan V idea I would even propose that they would be a match for Astartes. And if I were to take a page from the Astartes it would be the ability to clot their blood almost instantly.
@@Leprechaunlock Spartan 4s already get organ replacement/supplemented. Why not even better ones or new ones all together to create super blood clotting and all of that?
yes Spartans being an off books hit squad is what made the mark 2's so formidable, lets be honest in the eyes of the founder of the Spartans Katherine Halsy the mark 4's are publicity stunt they're a joke, at best they're odst's playing dress up. and its true a full spartan 4 hit squad was sent to apprehend a mark 2, let that sink in they are 2 generations newer with better kit and all the intelligence of the unsc and oni at their backs and they failed. 4 on 1 (technically 4 on 4 but lets be honest blue team were just following out of loyalty they had no stake in the fight. They were on chief's mission that was all)
That's the whole point of the 4's. Yes, they're inferior, but they're also much easier to mass produce than even the 3's. Perfect weapons are overrated. A sufficient quantity of good enough weapons can win any war. Just look at the Lone Wolf mission in Reach.
@@addisonwelsh you also have to remember that Six had been fighting for days on end with little rest, food, and water, and his entire team just fucking died (to his knowledge, but Jun made it out), so he wasn't exactly 100%, and he still took down hundreds of Covenant soldiers and countless vehicles before he finally succumbed to his wounds and was overwhelmed by 8 elites charging him with energy swords.
@@TyraziumGod The point is still valid. Hell, Halo: Reach as a a whole is pretty much "Spartans dying in mundane ways." Jorge: Equipment failure. Kat: Sniped Carter: Dying from injuries, so sacrificed himself. Emile: Stabbed in the back, despite having a motion sensor. Noble 6: Swarmed
I think ONI would be more likly to combine several ideas into the V's. The indoctrination of the II's. The 'cheap' and expendible-ness of the III's. And flash-cloning. This would give them a loyal soldier, that is relativly cheap, extremly affective in combat, and has a built-in 'kill switch' - just in case.
But the "cheap"-ness of the Spartan III's is only because they're given inferior armor, less training, and are genetically not as stringently selected as the II's. They wouldn't be "extremely effective" against the Spartan IV's, which are their intended targets in this scenario. They would be against regular soldiers, but then why go through this? Plus, flash cloning would mean you wouldn't have enough time to properly train the Spartans, and they'd only be able to be in combat for a few months. What if your mission is longer than that? Plus, the nature of flash cloning, as it's described in the video, is a progressive deterioration of health, so you'd have soldiers getting these diseases soon after deployment. It's not like you have a real "kill switch", you're just making sickly Spartans.
As another person stated above flash cloning presents many problems because it basically makes them sick and only able to operate for a few weeks or months at best, that's not nearly enough time to get them to become perfect soldiers. Also, Spartan III's were almost just as good as Spartan II's if they had Mjolnir armor, and more specialized training and Spartan IIIs were also indoctrinated to hell in their training as ONI manipulated them to become killing machines to avenge their dead families at the hands of the covenant. If you really want a kill switch, just put a chip in their heads like the clone troopers in star wars. Personally, I like the idea of making a custom clone the slow way and correcting all of the genetic defects in a flash clone described in the video, so you can create the perfect model of spartan and then upgrade them further with augmentations as they grow and train. But I am really just worried about the cost of such a program, as growing clones this long way, and they would probably have limited numbers, but ONI being ONI, I'm sure they could get it done. If they were really just spartan killers, then they wouldn't need too many, a few dozen would do as I can't see huge numbers of Spartan IV's joining the innies. I could be wrong though.
That's exactly what I've been imagining the whole time! All surviving Spartans 2 and 3 be given further genetic, physical, and even mental upgrades. Just imagine Spartans equal to Astartes.
Even better since Halo Infinite is supposed to be around for the next decade (a rumor i haven't fact checked) have Halsey make the Spartan V's based off of John's new DNA and the knowledge (if she gained any from the Librarian,the Spartan II project, the new updated tech and knowledge of the UNSC. Then have the Spartan V's be; one based on Eternity, and two the player character's we use in the multiplayer. We would be training as the new generation of Spartans. At the same time 343 can use the chance to put Chief to rest in cryo somewhere after whatever happens in Campaign. Then allowing Campaign DLC to be us as our own characters to take a central position in the plot for a bit. Spartan V's would be on paper better than the II's only because Halsey was once again involved. But they would lack the experience of the II's. An experience we would be making/gaining for years to come
Well according to the lore forerunners didn't had much of augmentation, no gene therapy, They went straight up to gene mutation So if we take mutation then Spartan 5 would be more of a mutant than a super soldier
All the Spartan DNA on record. Select the best aspects of each, implant and alter as much to make the crux of human warriors. Make Spartan V's not just loyal but now love them. Give them a bond outside of their Spartan family. Either through a pairing of parents or solo raising in 'off hours'. Guide them through questions on the implanted memories. Explain to them without setting them on a pedistool who they where meant to be, while reaffirming care and nurture. The end result will be more emotionally grounded humans who'll only question at the right times or moral judgements, while still putting the mission first. Down side is time and money, from before birth, Dna coding isn't going to be cheap. Even a few bonds out of place or a resequence could entirely change a S5. Good idea. I love it as much as I love humanity.
Steve O So will they have a choice in the matter? Or will they be forced to serve ONI or the UNCS? Will they be a slave child soldiers like the SPARTAN II’s?
The loving bond would make them *great people but* wouldn’t necessarily make them the greatest warrior. Remember, their core skill is killing. This exact point is why underdogs who come from shitty beginnings become so great at what they do because there’s no choice in the matter. It simply IS their life they would never even question it as a choice. I want to believe that having a loving upbringing would create a superior warrior but when I see stuff like in my link below it makes me think twice. Skip to 3 min 35 sec of this video on Mike Tyson and really let those words sink in ruclips.net/video/NrPWFWd8cVM/видео.html Edit: I left out important words from typing too fast... 😂 * great people but *
Flatheads Rebuked did you listen to Mike Tyson talk? Don’t know where Nazis come into this. All I’m saying is you can be great at killing with or without a loving childhood bond. We’re talking about science fiction genetically altered soldiers who kill for a living, what are you talking about? Also, people who love their kids wouldn’t raise them to kill since childhood.
There should be a game where you play as the Arbiter, and you go around killing humans, whether they be Insurrectionist, UNSC (during Covenant War), or ONI. Have ODSTs be mini-bosses, and the final boss be a Spartan.
@@acrustykrab you mean the elites that took part in a 30 year war that nearly eradicated our species?... Yeah no...in reality, there may be an alliance, but the general public would LOATH the elites
I would love more Spartans to be paired with an AI, like how Chief was. Perhaps if there is a Spartan V program, they will add pairing AIs to all of the Spartans that graduate, kinda similar to the Freelancers in RedVsBlue. Edit: Minor grammar issues.
@@robianknight4001 How did I not notice this wonderful reply? I meant Smart AI, I do think that the UNSC and ONI are working on how to make Smart AI lifespans longer and are trying to fix that little rampancy issue, eventually we should be able to give Smart AI longer lives than seven years, I'm hopeful that this will occur. Like with any new technology, you work out the bugs. It took Ford dozens of driver deaths until they were forced to implement seatbelts for example.
the spartan 5 could also receive improved versions of ilsa zanes enhancements and improved gamma company enhancements. Their suits could incorporate the latest gen 3, mk 7, forerunner, pre halo humanity and covenant technologies. Dumb ai suit integration would also help. As additional augmentations i would give them is spider silk integration into collagen structures, red blood cells with a slight positive charge, lactate digesting genes in muscles, thiner gaps between synapses, reduced pain receptors in the muscles, extracellular material that reacts faster with blood platelets, artificial eye lense, improved hearing/smell, cellulase and extra peptidase genes for the digestive track, the photographic memory and calculation genius gene, heightened creativity genes, axolotl healing genes, boron carbide cover over the already enhanced bones+ some extra plates, plate over the nerv at the elbow, reduced anxiety factors, heightened concienciousness factors, heightened mental stress resistance, aversion to lie, heightened feeling of familiar conection, reduced need for social presentation, reduced sex drive, slightly reduced general emotional response, anti depressive mechanisms, minimal psychopathy and ceramic materials in the subdermal fat layer as shear thickening material.
Extra augmentations: depth melanin against radiation, antifreeze genes, dryout genes, some more heat resistant proteins, an mechanical extra heart that can substitute the organic one for survival, stimulant injectors, pH powered polymer muscles fibers in the muscles, slightly increased synaps density on the muscle, carbon fibers in the sinews, improved imune system, ph buffer in fat cells, anti venom producing glands in the lymphatic system, dolphin half sleep genes, bear hybernation gene linked to extreme stress response, hypnotic anti stress and pro loyality sugestion.
Antibiotic sweat, anti viral agents in the bloodstream, heat resistant and rupure resistant polymer around organ areas, ceramic particles in skin cells
@Eneko Fe_Fe and a very nearly unkillable version at that. Even a 40k space marine or custodes is weak in comparison. One extra augmentation: a substance around blood vessels that contracts and hardens when damage is sensed.
Since the society of the Forerunners was a caste base system did they have a king leading them or some high monarch above even the Didact who was a general?
Okay now that I finished the video, I couldn't help but think about a certain aspect of Spartans while you were describing how S-V's could be produced. Its not their augmentations or training or trademark lethality, but the social and psychological aspects of it. S-II and S-III classes were very reclused, with the former having more lore on the matter about their social and psych deficiencies when compared to normal humans. How do you think an S-V's training and upbringing would go? Would their social skills not go outside their squad? Their entire generation? How would they think? Feel? What happens when they see normal kids for the first time and then see themselves in the mirror and think, for the first time, "Why is that not me?" Would they even have a concept of fun? Joy? Sadness? I'd love to see a video on this and know what you think. Thanks again for another amazing watch 00!
Here's an interesting thought: if a Spartan 2 _did_ go rogue, how would their psychology be changed from the normal rogue Spartan because of the indoctrination?
There have been I think only 2 or 3 go rogue, one of which being Randall who had his augmentations reversed through extensive surgery, but he didn't really have sympathies for either the UNSC or the rebels, he just cared about his colony. The other one I think is Daisy? I think? No real sympathies either, and I'm not sure if you would count Grey Team as rogue but they don't care much for the UNSC, though they do understand the rebels are a greater of two evils.
"if a Spartan 2 did go rogue, how would their psychology be changed from the normal rogue Spartan because of the indoctrination?" I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Yes, they were indoctrinated via propaganda and conditioning. But... That is not mind control, no matter how you slice it. We have people today that grow up in cults and for all their lives only FERVENTLY believe in one truth about whatever it is in their cult. These people can abandon and "defect" from the cult. They can be psychologically "de-programmed." ...The point is, if a Spartan II is going rogue... they've already changed their minds and turned against their own mental conditioning/programming. And, no amount of mental conditioning is going to make you suddenly stop caring about things you care about. The Master Chief cares for his fellow Spartans, Cortana, ect. If someone from ONI killed all of Blue Team - murdered them right in front of John and said, "You've been decommissioned, ONI and the UNSC no longer has a need for you" - do you think John would just obediently turn over and die? Obviously not. He'd probably suffer from Doom Slayer levels of rage and when he's done ripping out the spine through the asshole of the guy that tried to kill him... He's probably going to continue to rip and tear until it's done with ONI. And, it's almost getting to that point. John is starting to see how the sausage is made and what ONI is willing to do. And he knows damn well with that whole ONI doctoring footage to make him look like he was a traitor that ONI has *_ZERO_* issues with throwing him under the bus and it's just a matter of time. He's not dumb. But Brian Reed, the writer for Halo 5? Yeah, he's dumb as a box of rocks. We had "Hunt the Truth" just diving straight into this and... we got... Cortana... something... Created... Ebil Kortana... Whatever. What a waste.
What was Forerunner luxury like during their hight of power and what was the economy like was it like a free market with companies competing with one another and how did the Forerunner military and navy get their ship and weapons designs to the shipyards and facilities? Someone had to bulid and design them. Was it bulit by military contracts with corporations?
The had no companies. It was a place in the caste. The builders do the building miners a mining warriors servants a warring and lastly the lifeworkers for any science relative to biology I believe. Kinda communist economy but it works or worked up until humanity got directly involved I guess. Oops I forgot juridicals for "justice"
I'd doubt it for one simple reason - that's expensive and extremely time intensive. ONI are beyond ruthless, yes, but they've also got their penny pinchers and hiding a program that'd cost so much and take so long would be extremely difficult. At the end of the day what I suspect will happen is a return to the methods used in the Spartan III program, albeit with far more careful selection. The original program suffered from two things - a subpar screening process with candidates since ONI just wanted warm bodies to hold a rifle, and a lack of investment as they were never intended to survive thus were never given the kind of education or mental conditioning the IIs had. Aside from that, though? The Spartan III program, when it was provided with candidates that matched the IIs' stringent selection standards, produced Spartans that were every bit as good if not debatably better on average (provided we're strictly talking the CAT2s and Gamma survivors). On multiple occasions it was stated that such individuals were likely to eventually become even stronger and faster than the IIs provided they lived long enough to grow into their augmentations due to the advancements made in the process since the IIs, and the Gamma Company survivors that were integrated into the IVs were stated to be some of the best Spartans the UNSC had ever produced. Most importantly, though, by comparison to the cloning method? It would be cheap and debatably far easier to hide. Spartans on par with the IIs or better would be produced at a fraction of the cost, likely even cheaper than the IVs currently are, and within a fraction of the time needed for cloning. Such clones would need anywhere between ten to fifteen years to produce a single new company of Spartan-Vs, assuming you don't accelerate growth to prevent damage to DNA similar to flash cloning. On the other hand enhancing and improving upon the methodology used by the IIIs would produce combat viable companies within only three to five years. In terms of being cost effective such methodology would produce anywhere between two to three companies of Spartan-Vs for every one of the clone batches at a conservative estimate. Moreover, the method is a PROVEN one. Project CHRYSANTHEMUM had a near 100% success rate and was merely a series of four injections. The issue of nature vs nurture is always going to be one that people will debate, but if ONI were to miss something, just a single critical element that made the previous Spartans classes so lethal, that would be ten to fifteen years wasted on just a single attempt with another ten to fifteen afterwards needed to merely see if your additional corrections worked. Could ONI do it? Without a doubt. And provided they knew they could get it right on the first go I don't doubt they would. But the fact is such a project would be a huge gamble given the time investments required, and even if they got it right on the first go it'd likely be far too late to handle whatever problem ONI needs them for. Looking at a worst case scenario where multiple attempts are needed to perfect the cloning process and address potential flaws in the first batches? You're looking at anywhere between twenty to fifty years before you have a viable company.
I would like to hear more about these SPARTAN V's. This is incredibly intriguing. Also, I'm very impressed at your detailed knowledge of SPARTAN augments just off the top of your head without notes. Like, holy crap that's impressive memory.
With this being said, then it's quite possible that a clone of Sgt. Johnson could return his character to the verse as a Spartan V. He had done plenty of wetwork missions and would perfect candidate.
Steven Young I mean clones were made to replace the missing children (Redacted information here) but they died after 2 weeks usually anyway some lived longer than that but like the rest they died.
"...cats, dogs, and Riddick" actually made me laugh out loud. I had no idea there was so much sci-fi thought into SPARTAN augmentations. I thought you were leading to SPARTAN V's being John-117 clones... which would be narratively interesting but also a little too Star Wars.
Imagine if this theoretical spartan program’s candidates were clones of john 117 and other exceptional spartan 2. Superior genetics of the spartan 2 mixed with refined and over the top augmentations based on all 4 generations of Spartans. Oni would literally have death in their pocket.
Your video was ad-lipped... The implications of a possible Spartan 5 class is, in my humble opinion, downright terrifying... The ability to create a clone army, for lack of a better word, grown to be absolutely loyal to an ideal, they are stronger, faster and able to handle incredible abuse. They are also remorseless, and they are also unstoppable killing machines because ONI is paranoid. Nevertheless. if this is what you crank out when you ad-lip something... then I need to watch your other work. I am impressed... and I think I'm going to stick around and sub too.
I imagine that these S-V's would be made as clones of the S-II's and/or S-III's, complete with them being loaded up with the memories of S-II's and desirable S-III's still alive, because as much as I love him S-III's like Emile were not good Spartans in the mental category.
Personally I'm not really a fan of ONI genetically engineering Spartans from embryos. I always liked that the Spartans were individuals being turned into Gods through human ingenuity, if they're growing their own then it kind of robs them of the "mortal" origins that made them human.
@@Installation00 I'd watch the hell out of that, you always add a tonne of really interesting ideas to everything you discuss so it'd be awesome to see your take on it.
@@Installation00 Honestly, i kinda agree with the guy above. If there were a spartan V generation , i think they should focus on finding way to get a spartan that is of the strength and speed of a spartan II or III despite being beyond the growing years. If assuming that somehow this even be possible (fat chance admittedly), the selection process should still be considered very narrow similar to spartan II and III, in fact with similar genetic requirements as the former but can be applied to exemplary adult soldiers possibly pass their prime or puberty years for that matter. This addresses some of the issues with discipline and skill set problem you may see with spartan IVs not to mention some of the monetary, moral and time consumption dilemma that you see with the previous generation while creating more or less quality soldiers.
Amazing video as always. Although personally I think Spartan V's will be a product of the children of Spartan III and IV, as halsey said the Spartans are the next step in human evolution. Alternatively I see Spartan V's as being closer to Titanfall pilots where they use nanites to increase their strength and durability to a certain degree but what really sets them above normal baseline humans is the regenerative abilities that the nanites give them making the augmentation process faster, easier and more accessible, anything else the nanites can't do will be compensated by next gen Mjolnir versions.
okay, if what if we build on this, what if the UNSC, UEG or what is going to be called in the future, used this concept to build it's Army, Navy (Wet), Navy (Void), Marine, Air Force branches of their military . perfectly loyal, and developed for their role in mind, For example, You need a scout/pathfinder, we got a template for you. You need a heavy support Unit, we got the template for you, You need a pilot for in atmo flight, well we got a template for you And So on. Actually lets not, as it just dawn on that this could also be used to create, Dumb manual labour and Canon fodder.
To give my two cents one it: I find this idea intriguing but not attractive. One of the things I do actually like about the Spartan IV program IS the fact that they are people with for relate-able human backgrounds. To me it just works better for telling a story about humans stepping up to defend humanity. It is actually one of the dynamics I was not crazy about with the IIs & IIIs. Don't get me wrong, I understand that they have personalities and ARE people too, but thematically it works better with the Spartan IVs for me. Also, do not mistake this as me not likely the other generations of Spartan by any means. I feel like the more you detract from the Spartans feeling human, the more you detract from one of the core themes of the story. This is also why I have also been a strong proponent that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the Spartan IVs other than their (as I would put it) incorrect depiction as Special Operators that would make anyone with a military background cringe insufferably. From a gameplay point of view I understand the power fantasy idea. I like it too. But, I think that the developers should be careful balancing their gameplay and storytelling moving forward as some things are compatible and others are not. However, this is only a theory as you've said and this is only my personal feelings on Halo's lore and story telling. Great content as always though. I love hearing these types of theories and opinions being shared openly.
Am I the only one that thinks that ONI could clone all of the Spartans that died during the human covenant war. Thus creating a real illusion to the public, that Spartans never die. Where they could continue reclone every Spartan that dies.
Wouldn't surprise me if the S-5 we're full on psychopaths or sociopaths with the way they would be raised. Hell the the only reason the S-2 we're just give sociopathic tendencies in their psychological evaluation is cause they don't know how to relate normal humans behavior as they where raise with military standards such as with codes and regulations and the only reason they might be able to reintegrate into normal society is that twisted sense of family the the S-2 have with each other as well as the parental figure they had with mendez and halsey
*Quick question:* Why did Noble 6 take off his helmet at the end of Reach? Wouldn't that significantly reduce his combat effectiveness not only because he would lose HUD but his neural link with mjolnir? If his neural link in his helmet was destroyed or damaged, would that kill him, or cause spasms etc etc?
probably not. imagine if every time your equipment got damaged you had a seizure. No military branch would ever use that. also idk man, don't try to make a lore book off of a scene that's just trying to look picturesque. This is like asking "what type of sandwich did jorge eat, and how is that implacative to the fall of reach?".
@@yarus5889 I don't understand your meaning. With this logic every piece of military equipment shouldn't be adopted. Fuel tanks in a vehicle catch on fire after being shot by a tank? Worthless vehicle! Jet exploded after being hit by a missile killing the pilot? Stupid jet! It's *Lore* that the neural functions in mjolnir are located in the Helmet and that when taken off the suit's strength and reflex enhancements are lost. I want to know why a fully trained bad ass like Noble 6 took his off. HUD wasn't working but the armour benefit was still there so logically there has to be another reason for him taking it off. If the helmets neural link was damaged it could have been causing issues and justified taking it off... I was wanting to know how valid this idea was and any other possible explanations ... Ffs man this isn't anything like asking what sandwiches were eaten SMH.
Looking at Spartan IVs, they are set up to be controllable. They are set up to be 'high maintenance' so that they have to stay loyal or basically die from system failure.
I heard that a fully equipped ancient humanity soldier was capable of destroying an entire planet alone, your idea of a spartan 5 human is incredible but nowhere close to ancient humanity
6:33 Fun fact there is a unique bone mutation that I have that makes my bones 8x denser than the average persons making them virtually unbreakable, swimming isn't my favorite thing because I can't really float which really sucks because I like pools. But that mutation mixed in with some sci-fi magic super soldier serum would make a spartan that would be more god than demi-god.
Random proposal for another ad lib video: Could the 50 Freelancers from Project: Freelancer (Red vs Blue) have been Spartan III’s and Spartan 2.2’s? We know they wear Mjolnir-based armor, use Spartan Abilities, AI, and are often highly competent beings, almost or wholly super-human in nature. At first, Dr. Leonard Church’s being the father of Carolina seems to debunk this, however he has both the resources to get Mjolnir, and an AI, and yet seems to have some reason not to have joined or functioned in the military. I think he was a Spartan II washout, and Carolina was a Spartan 2.2. We know that there were 930 Spartan III’s, with the majority sent to suicidal missions en-mass, barring only a handful of teams and headhunters. Could
I am surprised ONI didn't include some sort of special codes into the newer Mjolnir to create remote triggers that would cause the armor to burn out it's controls, causing them to shut down and become inoperable, and incapable of being "Hacked" into working again without special ONI or Big Navy equipment that would prevent rebels from joining the insurgents with full Mjolnir equiped rogue Spartans, instead just having unarmored rogue Spartans which should be a decent bit reduced in effectiveness.
Installation 00 : if oni made spartan 5 be like... meanwhile at the same time that day .. Bungie and 343 walk in a bar one day Bungie : hey guys!! 343 : what? Bungie : I got it man. 343: got what? Bungie : Halo infinite "ONI secret battalion the spartan V" 343: with gen 3 Mjolnir armour Bungie: bruh 343: bruh Halo Infinite : here we go again
You would think a operation like ONI would have sum sort of fail safe in ALL Spartans, especially in the 4s.... I mean put sum explosive chip device at the base of their brain stem that could be activated if they went rogue....
Maybe we'll get to see an attack animal of some sort from the humans this time. All alien factions they've encountered so far had inter-special exploits, and today we have service dogs who're trained from law enforcement to special ops canines
if the bones get coated in titanium instead of the carbon based coating... then wouldbthat mean that when a spartans bones do "break" that it would more resemble a bent piece of metal?
Just realized, this is essentially a more in-depth and complex story that was teased for us in Halo 5 lol. Before release. Would have been much better then what we got
What if there’s a Spartan V that’s a perfect copy of Master Chief? A propaganda machine, who has the memories and identity of the original Chief, but is made better and more obedient to ONI, and even more terrifying: easily replaced.
1 dislike at time of post: There’s always that one guy. Smh No matter which augmentations they have, they’re still part of huMANIty. Everyone has their role; their contract. HuMANIty E pluribus unum Out of many, one
The SPARTAN V program could be like a fusion of Spartan II and Iron Man Armor Model 37 (Bleeding Edge Armor) which would be amazing to see. This is how it works: 1. Selection - Gametes are selected from a gene pool derived from individuals with superior physical and mental capabilities compared to other human beings. At this point genetic engineering and manipulation techniques have evolved to the point that genes of these gametes can be altered accordingly to provide a wide array of desired results some of which will be discussed later. Once this is done the altered gametes are combined in various combinations to produce a zygote which are grown in birthing tanks for the full human gestation period. 2. Birth - After birth SPARTAN-V babies are assigned to adoptive family units situated on a classified colony world where they are raised. Careful attention would be paid to providing a highly nutritious diet along with vitamin/mineral supplements (with added titanium and carbon) on a daily basis. This would continue throughout their lives. 3. Year 1 - At age 6 SPARTAN-V candidates would go to a special military school where they would be put through hard training which was complemented with high-level education, which included mathematics, science, engineering, computing, reading, writing, history, martial arts and military tactics. They would be taught how to kill but at the same time would be taught the difference between right and wrong and careful attention was placed to ensure discipline, honor, and respect was instilled into the SPARTAN-V candidates [6]. 4. SPARTAN-V augmentation procedures - These were a series of biochemical and biomechanical manipulations applied to SPARTAN-V candidates during the onset of puberty. These included: (1) Muscular Enhancement Injections. A Protein complex is injected intramuscularly to increase tissue density and decrease lactase recovery time [4]. (2) SPARTAN-V neural interface implant. An upgrade to previous neural interfaces utilized by previous SPARTAN generations it allows a SPARTAN-V to directly control their MBE armor and the nano-machines that comprise his/her MBE armor as well as also allow an AI to directly interface with the Spartan's brain at an almost instantaneous rate. The AI is said to reside both inside the armor and inside the wearer's mind. Essentially, it is in both places at once [5]. The interface also allows the AI control of the MBE nano-machines and therefore the armor's systems as well, though the Spartan has override control [5]. The AI is capable of significantly improving the data transfer rate between the motor cortex of the Spartan and the MBE armor, further improving the Spartan's already lightning-quick reaction time [5]. The AI Data Crystal Chip is inserted into a socket near the base of the Spartan's skull [5]. (3) MBE Nano-machine Bonding Process. The MBE armor (Mjolnir Bleeding Edge) is made up of nano-machines attuned specifically to an individual SPARTAN-V's DNA composition that can turn into and create any type of structure upon the SPARTAN-V's skin [2]. The nano-machines reside within the bone matrix of the SPARTAN-V when not in use and when activated can turn into their default armor form or whatever the Spartan wants them to be/create on command via the SPARTAN-V neural interface link. In conjunction with an AI the possibilities become virtually endless. Being composed of nano-machines the armor is capable of self-repair and therefore is almost invulnerable, as the armor is able to transform and heal itself, by having the constantly replicating nano-machines replace anything that is lost or used [2] and in addition the nano-machines are also able to heal the SPARTAN-V of almost any injures/illnesses they may sustain within seconds as well as enhance the existing biological functions of a SPARTAN-V if required. This is the most advance piece of military technology in human hands to date. Alterations made in the genetic coding of candidates before birth meant that SPARTAN-V candidates did not have to undergo such dangerous, invasive procedures as previous generations of Spartans had to since it was not required. For instance: - Due to genetic alterations to the GH1 gene, SPARTAN-Vs would naturally produce more growth hormone than normal at the onset of puberty to boost growth of skeletal and muscle tissues and therefore the need for a catalytic thyroid implant was negated. - Due to alterations to the MSTN gene virtually no myostatin (a protein that inhibits muscle growth) is produced leading to increased muscle growth and strength. - Due to alterations to specific genes governing sensory acuity, SPARTAN-Vs possess heightened visual, audio and olfactory perception. - Due to genetic alterations to osteoblasts, titanium and carbon are naturally incorporated from the diet and used in the bone formation of SPARTAN-Vs the result being their bones are naturally as strong, if not stronger, than Spartans who have undergone ceramic carbide ossification surgery [1]. - Due to genetic alterations the neural dendrites of SPARTAN-Vs are already super-myelinated giving them an already 300% increase in subject reflexes as well as marked increase in intelligence, memory, and creativity [1]. - Genetic alterations meant that SPARTAN-Vs are physically/mentally perfect specimens and therefore their internal organs are already operating at peak capacity meaning they do not require replacing with artificial ones, especially when the repairing/enhancing capabilities of the MBE nano-machines present negated any such necessity. All this meant that SPARTAN-Vs could be created in greater number, with a far greater success rate and with even GREATER capabilities to all past generations of SPARTANS, including SPARTAN-IIs. So there you have it what do people think? Give me your thoughts and respects to Installation00 whose creative ideas were the basis of my own. [1] - Spartan V Program Augmentations - A Proposal - Lore and Theory - Installation00 (youtube) [2] - marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Man_Armor_Model_37 [3] - Most Detailed Breakdown - Spartan-II Augmentations - Installation00 (youtube) [4] - halo.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_augmentation_procedures [5] - halo.fandom.com/wiki/Spartan_Neural_Interface [6] - thespartanprograms.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_Program
I have an idea that if master chief gets spartan v augmentations added to his preexisting spartan 2 augmentations will make him the size of s2 Kurt and the strength of the strongest s2 and the fastest s2 and the smartest s2 also with his luck also he will have a clone with a chip that can transfer his consciousness to a a blank clone that has his personality and all the augmentations I just stated and the consciousness of chief can only be done if he dies but the chip in his head is still intact and will make him even more stronger if he has an ai also like the weapon at least that my version of spartan v's or at least parts of his
I feel like this wont happen as long as Saren Osmen is the head of ONI although she is ONI and doesn't really have the moral compass that normal people have shes doesnt want what happened to her (shes a spartan 2 drop out) to happen to anyone again but who knows she could see it the way you do
this could bring new headhunter. instillation said that spartan 5's would be used to kill rogue spartans. and head hunters would take up tasks very similar to this. i can' be the only one to see the correlation.
Wouldn't it be more efficient to use smart A.I.s in combat? Link them to a robotic frame and attach Mjolnir powered armor. Spartans think fast but I assume smart A.I.s think faster. Spartans can't fully utilize the extent of Mjolnir armor without damaging themselves and I think A.I.s could bypass that issue. And the use of A.I. would be less of a moral problem for ONI instead of cloning people while simultaneously being able to program loyalty into an A.I. shouldn't be too hard. I think a smart A.I. hunter-killer units could be effective Spartan Killers.
Good vid very interesting and very likely, I think this could also be used to create want I call : The Spartan Legacy Program. Create new Spartans using the DNA of the best and greatest of there kind.
I had a hypothetical years back, when the Spartan IV class first was rumoured. That there would be issues wirh them because not child solfiers and not indoctrinated etc etc. So i thought perhaps a Spartan V class but wirh clones that have issues ironed out. So wow, yoy also have thought of this, but gone much further with it. Like, for instance, the spartan k8ller idea. I theorised another great enemy, but didnt know what/who. And that they saw need to return to Spartan II child soldiers but in a way that avoided ethical issues, as spartan program well known. Well done on this video. I agree that this would be the next step for the reasons you outlined.
From what I've heard, Halo 5 isn't a very good game. However that intro is phenomenally cool. The amount of work they put into making that was prolly huge.
Best option would be to clone the most successful Spartans with added DNA refinements and cognitive mapping with the experience of Spartan IIs. A upgraded neural interface fitted with a micro AI to enhance intelligence beyond even augmented Spartans and reinforce indoctrination to prevent rebellion and refusal of orders, as well as a permanent increase in reaction time and possibly some sort of bio feedback to improve overall performance. Here's a question I've had for a while: could the neural interface used by all UNSC members be used by ONI to subliminally indoctrinate those fitted with them, causing personnel to be more in line with their beliefs and morals ( if they had any ) ensuring loyalty and obedience to the UNSC, while any orders given by ONI are followed with little to no refusal.
Put some kind of durable material, grown on the cellular level, that weaves throughout the brain as it develops. This means the brain is no longer jelly-like, and much more tough, greatly reducing brain damage should something get into the skull, and preventing the knockout effect when the brain sloshes inside the skull.
First off with volunteers quickly pouring in to replace spartan IV losses and pretty much the cheapest spartan armor in existence. You need to come up a reason to why a V class is needed
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Spartan V- "I'm getting a message from ONI"
ONI- *"execute order 66"*
Master Chief- " Yes my lord"
Jerome- Yes it will be done
Alice- It will be done
Douglas- Will do as you command
ONI: "Execute Order 66."
Spartan IVs: "No."
Spartan IIs: "Yes."
Spartan Is: "SaY WhUt?!?"
Spartan IIIs: "I've already had enough of Kat's driving."
Rouge Spartans: “This is the way.”
Spartan V: iT WiLL bE dONe M’LoRd
in 2570. Welcome to kamino. Here we create the spartan V clones.
With two hundred thousand ready and a million more on the way.
Imagine if one Halo game had these theoretical SPARTAN-Vs(Olympians?) based off John-117's memories and they acted as the enforcers of ONI.
The games are their training memories.
Then we learn Johns Sex life!
Ooooohhhhh, Wait...
Spartan Killers. Man. That sounds so cool. Haha Being charged to assassinate rogue assets on spec op missions in insurrection controlled space. The occasional alien interactions here and there curing your campaign. I’m sold. Haha
That Bungie Era Martin O'Donnell Song playing as the Power Rangers in Space are Decimating the Covenant and Forerunner Forces. ✋😑👌
My personal idea for a Spartan V program is essentially an Orion II program. I would make it so any person in anyway way, shape or form related to flood containment would be given Spartan I level augmentations to make it much more difficult for the Flood to infect them and give them a greater chance in case of a containment breach.
I made the Spartan IV and V back in 09 in my noncanon stuff
I would think the next step is creating fully augmented humans at birth. My thoughts would be by carefully pairing various spartans to mate. Then keep at it till something stable occurred. Probably seed the suitable not up to par babies into random homes to grow up naturally. Eventually creating a more solid human naturally. Engineered evolution basically.
I'm pretty sure ONI can kill any Spartan remotely with the power source overload.
"I have no script"
*continues talking as if a well structured arguments and not stumbling over any words or ending thoughts too early*
If your truly passionate about something you wont stumble
He did a damn good job.
Give them three lungs, two hearts, ceramic bones, massive size, give them the ability to spit acid and not sleep for weeks without effect, oh and don't forget things like night vision and immunity from poison.
Oh wait.
At some point they stop being super humans are start being biological terminators lol.
@@phoenixjones7191 Yeah lol. No I was just describing Warhammer 40k's Space Marines... Which do fit the "biological terminator" vibe pretty well now I think about it... Huh.
And they shall know no fear
And that's only a third of was a regular Astartes had. Biggest one to give them would be the instantly clotting blood
@@Leprechaunlock Let's not forget that they can learn things from enemies by eating them. Because in 40k, go big or go home.
"This video is totally unscripted."
Proceeds to continue sounding ravishingly sexy and cultured.
Yeah I had the same thought. Either this was well prepared or I hate him for being better off the cuff than I am when I'm writing an essay.
"This is the next step in evolotion"
-Some science lady
Sometimes evolution just needs a little push, and here at the UAC, we push hard.
Can't get enough of these detailed breakdowns even if this one is just a theory
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*A GAME THEORY*
@@aceofgames4410 you gave me PTSD
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I'm no expert, but between how crazy useful Chief has been, and the surprising number of Spartan II's running around, I think it might make sense for ONI/ the UNSC to look at upgrading the armor, personal equipment, and possibly even the augmentations of Chief's generation.
ONI creating yet another Spartan generation specifically to take out "rogue"* Spartans would be entirely on brand for them. As for the cloning, it would be very interesting if ONI had already been... cooking with the DNA of the Spartan II candidates they'd abducted. At this point they could be all grown up the slow way and thoroughly indoctrinated, even if "perfecting" their genes would slow them down. Of course the real John would still beat his superior* version.
Might do a video on how Spartan-IIs could be upgraded using additional augs, new armor and a few other enhancements to make them better again than a base S2!
OG Chief probably beat an ONI clone of himself for various reasons.
a) Experience. Training is different from actual combat, and unless it's revealed that these hypothetical Spartan 5s already exist, and have been used by ONI in the shadows, the ONI Chief will be outmatched in this department.
b) Cortana's augmentations. Whilst it's likely that Chief's Halo 4/5 Armour (Which I like to call the Cortana Model, as it was made by her before H4) has already been documented by the UNSC, Chief's new augmentations - the ones he gained from the Librarian - possibly have not. Even if a specimen is available to ONI, they probably don't fully understand it; the Librarian was able to plan genetic makeups thousands of generations down the line - even a short-term evolution would be a feat above modern humanity.
c) He's the main character. Combined with his luck (I guess we're in the Nasuverse now) Chief is toting around some serious plot amor.
The more interesting thing for me would be how other Spartans would fare. Whilst point A and C apply cleanly for Chief, the rest of his Fireteam, for example, aren't so lucky. Whilst a grave overgeneralisation, Chief's companions are the better than him biologically; Kelly's faster, Linda a better sniper (which implies, perhaps, eyesight and/or reactions), and when he was alive, Sam was the strongest and tallest of the Spartans. These biological superiorities could probably be mass produced, and even improved, by ONI.
@@e.v4892 not to mention fred was Overall more skilled and was the Second best Sniper on Blue team, also didn't Instillation 00 mention in one of his Spartan videos Kurt being 8ft tall in SPI armor, (plus he has a supernatural sixth sense), and Will took on a hunter hand to hand and FUCKING WON. Kelly is not only the fastest in terms of travel speed, but her combat speed and reactions are the fastest too.
Imagine a Clone of Spartan III B-312. Giving us a return of Noble 6 as a ONI Assassin once again.
The clone material would need to be pulled just after augmentations matured. It would produce a different fighter each time. Still trained ground up and be better result. Other alternative, put more through Spartan two program then breed them among each other. Let the alterations mature at dna level.
This theory seems like it could be plausible, this is why I love this channel for Halo content.
Right? Some of these videos, i can't help but wonder if there will be someone out there with the drive (and money, and equipment and such) to make just SOMETHING from the Halo-verse
Nathan What do you mean?
@@justchilling704 Well, take some of the UNSC weapons, like the DMR, for example; as far as i can tell, it is possible to make it with modern day technology and equipment. But I'm just saying it would be nice if the things that are possible to make in Halo are made irl in this day and age.
Nathan Oh yeah that would be cool, let’s not make SPARTANs though lol, that’s honestly gonna cause so many problems and risk.
@@justchilling704 With 4's and 2's, i would agree. The former because of how "un-spartan" they can be and the higher risk of treason and the latter because of how morally questionable it was with the whole kidnapping at a young age and many dying during augmentation. But 3's? I respectfully disagree.
>Mfw he is listing off early iterations of the geneseed process
Warhammer 3k is gonna be a great prequel.
@@bentuovila5296 FOR THE EMPEROR!
I had same thought. The SPARTAN Vs start to sound like Astartes.
@@mikemoore2791 especially when he said that they would probably be 8 feet tall, I just emedietly thought of the astarties.
Honestly though the thing is that ONI could basically do what the Emperor did to make the Primarchs and just engineer a human from scratch to grow exactly how you want. Astartes were meant to be mass produced and so Big E only made them to be able to withstand most things that they would encounter, not handcrafted like their Genefathers or the Custodes
I like to think that this is how the Forerunners started off.
The Forerunners "evolved" through various at mutations at different points in their lives. I Imagine in the early days of their existence they started experimenting in similar wars to the Orion Project, and this gradually evolved into the mutations used later on. The Use of Forerunner power armour probably evolved in similar way to Mjolnir as well.
I imagine that if humans continue developing the Spartan and Mjolnir programs until, over the course of centuries, or even millennia, they become as ingrained into human culture as the Forerunner mutations and "Skins" were to them.
Imagine an entire race of Spartans, all equipped with Mjolnir.
The Forerunners were made the way they were by the Precursors.
Step 1: Incredibly powerful augmentations which are only possible to give to the 75 strongest, fastest and smartest out of the entire multi-trillion human population- even killing or maiming the majority of these people.
Step 2: Less powerful but safer augmentations which can be given to less impressive but more numerous examples of humanity.
Step 3: Augmentations which can not only be given to adults, but regular ones too. The only restriction is expenses.
Step 4: It's super cheap and easy to augment everyone, so why wouldn't we?
Step 5: Giving people different augmentations to do different jobs, I.E Forerunner society.
I can totally see it, tbh.
A race of Spartans with MJOLNIR
Yeah, that's kind of horrifying as a squishy mortal with not notable athletic or combat prowess.
That is Halsey's wet dream
That's what Humanity was before the forerunners stole the Mantle, and again before they bombed them back to the
stone age while Humanity was fleeing the flood
Hypothetical logic on the Spartan V's it probably will take the best of each iteration.
So the best part of the spartan II was there literally the best physical and mental candidates from the human race. So maybe the logic of the spartan II's being the genetic base of the Spartan V's incorporating positives into the genetic code from other species such as the Elites and the massive physical advantage. So working from the human peak and then adding to it with genetic engineering either directly splicing elite DNA into the spartans or if their DNA is incompatible, manufacturing the DNA and adding to human DNA during the child's conception so when it is still an embryo and sperm. And then take using manufactured or spliced DNA copying other races advantages into Humans. Creating a very strong starting point before further augmentation with more traditional mechanical and chemical alterations.
From the Spartan III's there utility came in their ability to be mass trained and use cheaper but still very effective augmentations.
From the Spartan IV's the fact that they could be augmented at adult hood not as teenagers is their main advantage and that basically anyone could be made into a spartan with very little down time
By implementing the best piece of each of them you would have a very good start. If a Spartan V was say needed in a month and instead of making these changes at a child's conception and then having to wait 18-21 years you could use cloning. As a stop gap method of very cheap to produce clones of the current best spartan and only modifying them slightly to be a general improvement.
Then you only have to train them which you could do by daisy chaining several dumb AI into a spartan using a mind interface unit like the ones used by Cortana in chiefs armour and then you would have a Spartan with a huge variety of skills at expert level at its birth. They would probably incorporate a method of controlling the population of cloned Spartans. By say putting the maximum age of a spartan V clone, say at 50 years old and effectively you would get 49 years of 100% then the last year of its life would be used to help expand the knowledge base from which the other spartans would grow. The method of killing them off would be effectively be forcing a random incurable genetic mutation that kills them when they are created.
People might say that cloning all the way and then no human who isn't cloned doesn't have to fight is the best way.
Its not. Basically you make them strong but the non cloned humans stronger which would keep everyone inline. The clones can't say no to being a soldier and overthrow humanity. And it stops the rest of humanity getting to fat and lazy and seeing these clones as tools and not people.
Ever seen the movie Blade Runner???
@@tappingninja yes. Basically that.
“The Spartan II’s we’re loyal to the UNSC.”
*Soren 066 would like a word.*
Lmao especially now in the TV show
@@slavcity406 TV show is non-canon.
@@ddandymann no shit..
@@ddandymann dont see how thats even relevant to what i said
Instillation00 is the Luetin09 of Halo, change my mind
How about the my name is byf of halo?
Can't change what's true
Damn near man. And honestly this proposed Spartan V idea I would even propose that they would be a match for Astartes. And if I were to take a page from the Astartes it would be the ability to clot their blood almost instantly.
@@Leprechaunlock Spartan 4s already get organ replacement/supplemented. Why not even better ones or new ones all together to create super blood clotting and all of that?
@@brockwilkie6022 that's my point. But that may be seen as straight stealing from Warhammer
yes Spartans being an off books hit squad is what made the mark 2's so formidable, lets be honest in the eyes of the founder of the Spartans Katherine Halsy the mark 4's are publicity stunt they're a joke, at best they're odst's playing dress up. and its true a full spartan 4 hit squad was sent to apprehend a mark 2, let that sink in they are 2 generations newer with better kit and all the intelligence of the unsc and oni at their backs and they failed. 4 on 1 (technically 4 on 4 but lets be honest blue team were just following out of loyalty they had no stake in the fight. They were on chief's mission that was all)
That's the whole point of the 4's. Yes, they're inferior, but they're also much easier to mass produce than even the 3's.
Perfect weapons are overrated. A sufficient quantity of good enough weapons can win any war. Just look at the Lone Wolf mission in Reach.
@@addisonwelsh you also have to remember that Six had been fighting for days on end with little rest, food, and water, and his entire team just fucking died (to his knowledge, but Jun made it out), so he wasn't exactly 100%, and he still took down hundreds of Covenant soldiers and countless vehicles before he finally succumbed to his wounds and was overwhelmed by 8 elites charging him with energy swords.
@@TyraziumGod The point is still valid. Hell, Halo: Reach as a a whole is pretty much "Spartans dying in mundane ways."
Jorge: Equipment failure.
Kat: Sniped
Carter: Dying from injuries, so sacrificed himself.
Emile: Stabbed in the back, despite having a motion sensor.
Noble 6: Swarmed
@@addisonwelsh Jun: Fucking dipped.
I think ONI would be more likly to combine several ideas into the V's.
The indoctrination of the II's.
The 'cheap' and expendible-ness of the III's.
And flash-cloning.
This would give them a loyal soldier, that is relativly cheap, extremly affective in combat, and has a built-in 'kill switch' - just in case.
S-III Gamma Company: who are you?
S-V: I am you but better
@@aceofgames4410 basically
But the "cheap"-ness of the Spartan III's is only because they're given inferior armor, less training, and are genetically not as stringently selected as the II's. They wouldn't be "extremely effective" against the Spartan IV's, which are their intended targets in this scenario. They would be against regular soldiers, but then why go through this?
Plus, flash cloning would mean you wouldn't have enough time to properly train the Spartans, and they'd only be able to be in combat for a few months. What if your mission is longer than that? Plus, the nature of flash cloning, as it's described in the video, is a progressive deterioration of health, so you'd have soldiers getting these diseases soon after deployment. It's not like you have a real "kill switch", you're just making sickly Spartans.
huh... cheap, expendable, genetically unstable and loyal. Kinda sounds like warhammer 40k thunderworriors to me.
As another person stated above flash cloning presents many problems because it basically makes them sick and only able to operate for a few weeks or months at best, that's not nearly enough time to get them to become perfect soldiers. Also, Spartan III's were almost just as good as Spartan II's if they had Mjolnir armor, and more specialized training and Spartan IIIs were also indoctrinated to hell in their training as ONI manipulated them to become killing machines to avenge their dead families at the hands of the covenant. If you really want a kill switch, just put a chip in their heads like the clone troopers in star wars. Personally, I like the idea of making a custom clone the slow way and correcting all of the genetic defects in a flash clone described in the video, so you can create the perfect model of spartan and then upgrade them further with augmentations as they grow and train. But I am really just worried about the cost of such a program, as growing clones this long way, and they would probably have limited numbers, but ONI being ONI, I'm sure they could get it done. If they were really just spartan killers, then they wouldn't need too many, a few dozen would do as I can't see huge numbers of Spartan IV's joining the innies. I could be wrong though.
I think the Spartan V program could be a "booster shot" for the 2s and 3s, where the Spartans' existing Augmentations are given upgrades somehow.
some of the extra augmentations with artificial organs could totally be added.
That's exactly what I've been imagining the whole time! All surviving Spartans 2 and 3 be given further genetic, physical, and even mental upgrades. Just imagine Spartans equal to Astartes.
_"That's the kind of eyes you see on cats, dogs, and Riddick."_
Golden! Right there!
Also, what if The Librarian did make John 117 "Natural" to allow him to genetically enhance himself as he continues to evolve.
Even better since Halo Infinite is supposed to be around for the next decade (a rumor i haven't fact checked) have Halsey make the Spartan V's based off of John's new DNA and the knowledge (if she gained any from the Librarian,the Spartan II project, the new updated tech and knowledge of the UNSC. Then have the Spartan V's be; one based on Eternity, and two the player character's we use in the multiplayer. We would be training as the new generation of Spartans. At the same time 343 can use the chance to put Chief to rest in cryo somewhere after whatever happens in Campaign. Then allowing Campaign DLC to be us as our own characters to take a central position in the plot for a bit.
Spartan V's would be on paper better than the II's only because Halsey was once again involved. But they would lack the experience of the II's. An experience we would be making/gaining for years to come
I would include forerunner tech in augmentation
ONI probably would plan to do so anyway. They would also use Covenant tech too
What about ancient human tech
Yes 👍
Well according to the lore forerunners didn't had much of augmentation, no gene therapy,
They went straight up to gene mutation
So if we take mutation then Spartan 5 would be more of a mutant than a super soldier
@@ur-didact1991 ancient human tech then.
All the Spartan DNA on record. Select the best aspects of each, implant and alter as much to make the crux of human warriors. Make Spartan V's not just loyal but now love them. Give them a bond outside of their Spartan family. Either through a pairing of parents or solo raising in 'off hours'. Guide them through questions on the implanted memories. Explain to them without setting them on a pedistool who they where meant to be, while reaffirming care and nurture. The end result will be more emotionally grounded humans who'll only question at the right times or moral judgements, while still putting the mission first.
Down side is time and money, from before birth, Dna coding isn't going to be cheap. Even a few bonds out of place or a resequence could entirely change a S5. Good idea. I love it as much as I love humanity.
Steve O So will they have a choice in the matter? Or will they be forced to serve ONI or the UNCS? Will they be a slave child soldiers like the SPARTAN II’s?
The loving bond would make them *great people but* wouldn’t necessarily make them the greatest warrior. Remember, their core skill is killing. This exact point is why underdogs who come from shitty beginnings become so great at what they do because there’s no choice in the matter. It simply IS their life they would never even question it as a choice. I want to believe that having a loving upbringing would create a superior warrior but when I see stuff like in my link below it makes me think twice.
Skip to 3 min 35 sec of this video on Mike Tyson and really let those words sink in ruclips.net/video/NrPWFWd8cVM/видео.html
Edit: I left out important words from typing too fast... 😂 * great people but *
@@tonu115 Okay nazi.
Flatheads Rebuked did you listen to Mike Tyson talk? Don’t know where Nazis come into this. All I’m saying is you can be great at killing with or without a loving childhood bond. We’re talking about science fiction genetically altered soldiers who kill for a living, what are you talking about? Also, people who love their kids wouldn’t raise them to kill since childhood.
I just want it to be super immoral ”ends justify the means” - shit and we could maybe even play as a spartan V that goes awol against the system.
Character like that would be a welcome break from a perfect hero type who’s only goal is to save the humanity.
ONI should be the enemy at some point. They're always planning shit against Arbiter and the Elites even after the alliance, they're assholes.
There should be a game where you play as the Arbiter, and you go around killing humans, whether they be Insurrectionist, UNSC (during Covenant War), or ONI. Have ODSTs be mini-bosses, and the final boss be a Spartan.
@@acrustykrab you mean the elites that took part in a 30 year war that nearly eradicated our species?...
Yeah no...in reality, there may be an alliance, but the general public would LOATH the elites
@@dr.boring7022 I think there is a Mod that lets you do that already. Even has Spartans as bigger bosses for you to fight.
I would love more Spartans to be paired with an AI, like how Chief was.
Perhaps if there is a Spartan V program, they will add pairing AIs to all of the Spartans that graduate, kinda similar to the Freelancers in RedVsBlue.
Edit: Minor grammar issues.
Probably not gonna happen after the Cortana incident.
@@davemarx7856
Give the ONI scientists some time, they'll fix that little problem. lol
What Dave said, massive A.I restrictions will be implemented.
No likely if there like Cortana.If it's like SECOND from crysis 2 we are green.It is very likely to be like this semi-sentient AI augment.
@@robianknight4001
How did I not notice this wonderful reply?
I meant Smart AI, I do think that the UNSC and ONI are working on how to make Smart AI lifespans longer and are trying to fix that little rampancy issue, eventually we should be able to give Smart AI longer lives than seven years, I'm hopeful that this will occur.
Like with any new technology, you work out the bugs.
It took Ford dozens of driver deaths until they were forced to implement seatbelts for example.
Humanity: 550 years in the future, ammo and reloading is still a problem.
Forerruner prometheans: yeah, turns out that is unsolvable.
I think you left out cellular regeneration a.k.a. rapid healing and IQ screening, but other than that I can't find fault with what you highlighted.
the spartan 5 could also receive improved versions of ilsa zanes enhancements and improved gamma company enhancements. Their suits could incorporate the latest gen 3, mk 7, forerunner, pre halo humanity and covenant technologies. Dumb ai suit integration would also help.
As additional augmentations i would give them is spider silk integration into collagen structures, red blood cells with a slight positive charge, lactate digesting genes in muscles, thiner gaps between synapses, reduced pain receptors in the muscles, extracellular material that reacts faster with blood platelets, artificial eye lense, improved hearing/smell, cellulase and extra peptidase genes for the digestive track, the photographic memory and calculation genius gene, heightened creativity genes, axolotl healing genes, boron carbide cover over the already enhanced bones+ some extra plates, plate over the nerv at the elbow, reduced anxiety factors, heightened concienciousness factors, heightened mental stress resistance, aversion to lie, heightened feeling of familiar conection, reduced need for social presentation, reduced sex drive, slightly reduced general emotional response, anti depressive mechanisms, minimal psychopathy and ceramic materials in the subdermal fat layer as shear thickening material.
I love the plate over the elbow idea. That way when they're fighting Prometheans they don't accidentally bang their funny bone XD
Extra augmentations:
depth melanin against radiation, antifreeze genes, dryout genes, some more heat resistant proteins, an mechanical extra heart that can substitute the organic one for survival, stimulant injectors, pH powered polymer muscles fibers in the muscles, slightly increased synaps density on the muscle, carbon fibers in the sinews, improved imune system, ph buffer in fat cells, anti venom producing glands in the lymphatic system, dolphin half sleep genes, bear hybernation gene linked to extreme stress response, hypnotic anti stress and pro loyality sugestion.
Antibiotic sweat, anti viral agents in the bloodstream, heat resistant and rupure resistant polymer around organ areas, ceramic particles in skin cells
@Eneko Fe_Fe and a very nearly unkillable version at that. Even a 40k space marine or custodes is weak in comparison.
One extra augmentation: a substance around blood vessels that contracts and hardens when damage is sensed.
"Spartan clones"
*Order 66 intensifies*
Since the society of the Forerunners was a caste base system did they have a king leading them or some high monarch above even the Didact who was a general?
I don't know that much about the lore, but the closest one I can think of to a king would be the master builder Faber.
Okay now that I finished the video, I couldn't help but think about a certain aspect of Spartans while you were describing how S-V's could be produced. Its not their augmentations or training or trademark lethality, but the social and psychological aspects of it. S-II and S-III classes were very reclused, with the former having more lore on the matter about their social and psych deficiencies when compared to normal humans. How do you think an S-V's training and upbringing would go? Would their social skills not go outside their squad? Their entire generation? How would they think? Feel? What happens when they see normal kids for the first time and then see themselves in the mirror and think, for the first time, "Why is that not me?" Would they even have a concept of fun? Joy? Sadness?
I'd love to see a video on this and know what you think. Thanks again for another amazing watch 00!
Here's an interesting thought: if a Spartan 2 _did_ go rogue, how would their psychology be changed from the normal rogue Spartan because of the indoctrination?
There have been I think only 2 or 3 go rogue, one of which being Randall who had his augmentations reversed through extensive surgery, but he didn't really have sympathies for either the UNSC or the rebels, he just cared about his colony. The other one I think is Daisy? I think? No real sympathies either, and I'm not sure if you would count Grey Team as rogue but they don't care much for the UNSC, though they do understand the rebels are a greater of two evils.
"if a Spartan 2 did go rogue, how would their psychology be changed from the normal rogue Spartan because of the indoctrination?"
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. Yes, they were indoctrinated via propaganda and conditioning. But... That is not mind control, no matter how you slice it. We have people today that grow up in cults and for all their lives only FERVENTLY believe in one truth about whatever it is in their cult. These people can abandon and "defect" from the cult. They can be psychologically "de-programmed."
...The point is, if a Spartan II is going rogue... they've already changed their minds and turned against their own mental conditioning/programming. And, no amount of mental conditioning is going to make you suddenly stop caring about things you care about. The Master Chief cares for his fellow Spartans, Cortana, ect. If someone from ONI killed all of Blue Team - murdered them right in front of John and said, "You've been decommissioned, ONI and the UNSC no longer has a need for you" - do you think John would just obediently turn over and die? Obviously not. He'd probably suffer from Doom Slayer levels of rage and when he's done ripping out the spine through the asshole of the guy that tried to kill him... He's probably going to continue to rip and tear until it's done with ONI.
And, it's almost getting to that point. John is starting to see how the sausage is made and what ONI is willing to do. And he knows damn well with that whole ONI doctoring footage to make him look like he was a traitor that ONI has *_ZERO_* issues with throwing him under the bus and it's just a matter of time. He's not dumb. But Brian Reed, the writer for Halo 5? Yeah, he's dumb as a box of rocks. We had "Hunt the Truth" just diving straight into this and... we got... Cortana... something... Created... Ebil Kortana... Whatever. What a waste.
Spartan 2 Black team did not quite take to the indoctrination like the rest.
What was Forerunner luxury like during their hight of power and what was the economy like was it like a free market with companies competing with one another and how did the Forerunner military and navy get their ship and weapons designs to the shipyards and facilities?
Someone had to bulid and design them.
Was it bulit by military contracts with corporations?
The had no companies. It was a place in the caste. The builders do the building miners a mining warriors servants a warring and lastly the lifeworkers for any science relative to biology I believe. Kinda communist economy but it works or worked up until humanity got directly involved I guess. Oops I forgot juridicals for "justice"
I like how this process is somehow less immoral than the original SPARTAN IIs
because clones are not "real humans" so you can do what you want i guess ;)
@@brockwilkie6022 this same channel made a video talking about flash clones still being real humans despite how they were made.
UNSC: So we need ideas for the next generation of spartans. Ideas, anyone?
Installation00: yes
Oh god. ONI could make Spartan 2 V2 by using their genes to re-create them. That would be weird and creepy for sure.
Btw I fucking loved this video 👌
I'd doubt it for one simple reason - that's expensive and extremely time intensive. ONI are beyond ruthless, yes, but they've also got their penny pinchers and hiding a program that'd cost so much and take so long would be extremely difficult. At the end of the day what I suspect will happen is a return to the methods used in the Spartan III program, albeit with far more careful selection. The original program suffered from two things - a subpar screening process with candidates since ONI just wanted warm bodies to hold a rifle, and a lack of investment as they were never intended to survive thus were never given the kind of education or mental conditioning the IIs had.
Aside from that, though? The Spartan III program, when it was provided with candidates that matched the IIs' stringent selection standards, produced Spartans that were every bit as good if not debatably better on average (provided we're strictly talking the CAT2s and Gamma survivors). On multiple occasions it was stated that such individuals were likely to eventually become even stronger and faster than the IIs provided they lived long enough to grow into their augmentations due to the advancements made in the process since the IIs, and the Gamma Company survivors that were integrated into the IVs were stated to be some of the best Spartans the UNSC had ever produced.
Most importantly, though, by comparison to the cloning method? It would be cheap and debatably far easier to hide. Spartans on par with the IIs or better would be produced at a fraction of the cost, likely even cheaper than the IVs currently are, and within a fraction of the time needed for cloning. Such clones would need anywhere between ten to fifteen years to produce a single new company of Spartan-Vs, assuming you don't accelerate growth to prevent damage to DNA similar to flash cloning. On the other hand enhancing and improving upon the methodology used by the IIIs would produce combat viable companies within only three to five years. In terms of being cost effective such methodology would produce anywhere between two to three companies of Spartan-Vs for every one of the clone batches at a conservative estimate. Moreover, the method is a PROVEN one. Project CHRYSANTHEMUM had a near 100% success rate and was merely a series of four injections. The issue of nature vs nurture is always going to be one that people will debate, but if ONI were to miss something, just a single critical element that made the previous Spartans classes so lethal, that would be ten to fifteen years wasted on just a single attempt with another ten to fifteen afterwards needed to merely see if your additional corrections worked.
Could ONI do it? Without a doubt. And provided they knew they could get it right on the first go I don't doubt they would. But the fact is such a project would be a huge gamble given the time investments required, and even if they got it right on the first go it'd likely be far too late to handle whatever problem ONI needs them for. Looking at a worst case scenario where multiple attempts are needed to perfect the cloning process and address potential flaws in the first batches? You're looking at anywhere between twenty to fifty years before you have a viable company.
I would like to hear more about these SPARTAN V's. This is incredibly intriguing.
Also, I'm very impressed at your detailed knowledge of SPARTAN augments just off the top of your head without notes. Like, holy crap that's impressive memory.
With this being said, then it's quite possible that a clone of Sgt. Johnson could return his character to the verse as a Spartan V. He had done plenty of wetwork missions and would perfect candidate.
Steven Young
I mean clones were made to replace the missing children (Redacted information here) but they died after 2 weeks usually anyway some lived longer than that but like the rest they died.
He was a spartan 1 so that would make sense as they have his dna on file.
"...cats, dogs, and Riddick" actually made me laugh out loud.
I had no idea there was so much sci-fi thought into SPARTAN augmentations. I thought you were leading to SPARTAN V's being John-117 clones... which would be narratively interesting but also a little too Star Wars.
Star wars halo crossover with master chief clones would awesome
Imagine if this theoretical spartan program’s candidates were clones of john 117 and other exceptional spartan 2. Superior genetics of the spartan 2 mixed with refined and over the top augmentations based on all 4 generations of Spartans. Oni would literally have death in their pocket.
“75 units ready for deployment, and many more on the way.”
You would be creating Tankier Clone Troopers. Or Clone Commandos.
They can even copy ku- *oh wait*
Your video was ad-lipped... The implications of a possible Spartan 5 class is, in my humble opinion, downright terrifying... The ability to create a clone army, for lack of a better word, grown to be absolutely loyal to an ideal, they are stronger, faster and able to handle incredible abuse. They are also remorseless, and they are also unstoppable killing machines because ONI is paranoid.
Nevertheless. if this is what you crank out when you ad-lip something... then I need to watch your other work. I am impressed... and I think I'm going to stick around and sub too.
I imagine that these S-V's would be made as clones of the S-II's and/or S-III's, complete with them being loaded up with the memories of S-II's and desirable S-III's still alive, because as much as I love him S-III's like Emile were not good Spartans in the mental category.
Make children from Sparta 2 DNA they will hav som of their parents enhancements then they'll be further enhanced
Personally I'm not really a fan of ONI genetically engineering Spartans from embryos. I always liked that the Spartans were individuals being turned into Gods through human ingenuity, if they're growing their own then it kind of robs them of the "mortal" origins that made them human.
Completely get what you're saying to be fair. Might revisit this idea and maybe how current successful Spartans could be upgraded.
@@Installation00 I'd watch the hell out of that, you always add a tonne of really interesting ideas to everything you discuss so it'd be awesome to see your take on it.
@@Installation00 "Might"?
@@Installation00 Honestly, i kinda agree with the guy above. If there were a spartan V generation , i think they should focus on finding way to get a spartan that is of the strength and speed of a spartan II or III despite being beyond the growing years. If assuming that somehow this even be possible (fat chance admittedly), the selection process should still be considered very narrow similar to spartan II and III, in fact with similar genetic requirements as the former but can be applied to exemplary adult soldiers possibly pass their prime or puberty years for that matter. This addresses some of the issues with discipline and skill set problem you may see with spartan IVs not to mention some of the monetary, moral and time consumption dilemma that you see with the previous generation while creating more or less quality soldiers.
Amazing video as always.
Although personally I think Spartan V's will be a product of the children of Spartan III and IV, as halsey said the Spartans are the next step in human evolution.
Alternatively I see Spartan V's as being closer to Titanfall pilots where they use nanites to increase their strength and durability to a certain degree but what really sets them above normal baseline humans is the regenerative abilities that the nanites give them making the augmentation process faster, easier and more accessible, anything else the nanites can't do will be compensated by next gen Mjolnir versions.
When i saw the Halo Infinite Spartan design i honest thought they would be Spartan V's, not just upgraded IV's
okay, if what if we build on this, what if the UNSC, UEG or what is going to be called in the future, used this concept to build it's Army, Navy (Wet), Navy (Void), Marine, Air Force branches of their military .
perfectly loyal, and developed for their role in mind,
For example,
You need a scout/pathfinder, we got a template for you.
You need a heavy support Unit, we got the template for you,
You need a pilot for in atmo flight, well we got a template for you
And So on.
Actually lets not, as it just dawn on that this could also be used to create, Dumb manual labour and Canon fodder.
To give my two cents one it: I find this idea intriguing but not attractive. One of the things I do actually like about the Spartan IV program IS the fact that they are people with for relate-able human backgrounds. To me it just works better for telling a story about humans stepping up to defend humanity. It is actually one of the dynamics I was not crazy about with the IIs & IIIs. Don't get me wrong, I understand that they have personalities and ARE people too, but thematically it works better with the Spartan IVs for me. Also, do not mistake this as me not likely the other generations of Spartan by any means. I feel like the more you detract from the Spartans feeling human, the more you detract from one of the core themes of the story. This is also why I have also been a strong proponent that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the Spartan IVs other than their (as I would put it) incorrect depiction as Special Operators that would make anyone with a military background cringe insufferably. From a gameplay point of view I understand the power fantasy idea. I like it too. But, I think that the developers should be careful balancing their gameplay and storytelling moving forward as some things are compatible and others are not. However, this is only a theory as you've said and this is only my personal feelings on Halo's lore and story telling. Great content as always though. I love hearing these types of theories and opinions being shared openly.
Who thinks if him some other halo RUclipsrs like hiddenExperia do a podcast it would be LIT AF 🔥
ONI wants your location.
Halo 7 attack of the clones
lol
Am I the only one that thinks that ONI could clone all of the Spartans that died during the human covenant war. Thus creating a real illusion to the public, that Spartans never die. Where they could continue reclone every Spartan that dies.
Wouldn't surprise me if the S-5 we're full on psychopaths or sociopaths with the way they would be raised. Hell the the only reason the S-2 we're just give sociopathic tendencies in their psychological evaluation is cause they don't know how to relate normal humans behavior as they where raise with military standards such as with codes and regulations and the only reason they might be able to reintegrate into normal society is that twisted sense of family the the S-2 have with each other as well as the parental figure they had with mendez and halsey
Would a Spartan V have gen 3 or Gen 4 mjolnir?
*Quick question:* Why did Noble 6 take off his helmet at the end of Reach? Wouldn't that significantly reduce his combat effectiveness not only because he would lose HUD but his neural link with mjolnir? If his neural link in his helmet was destroyed or damaged, would that kill him, or cause spasms etc etc?
probably not. imagine if every time your equipment got damaged you had a seizure. No military branch would ever use that. also idk man, don't try to make a lore book off of a scene that's just trying to look picturesque. This is like asking "what type of sandwich did jorge eat, and how is that implacative to the fall of reach?".
@@yarus5889 I don't understand your meaning. With this logic every piece of military equipment shouldn't be adopted. Fuel tanks in a vehicle catch on fire after being shot by a tank? Worthless vehicle! Jet exploded after being hit by a missile killing the pilot? Stupid jet! It's *Lore* that the neural functions in mjolnir are located in the Helmet and that when taken off the suit's strength and reflex enhancements are lost. I want to know why a fully trained bad ass like Noble 6 took his off. HUD wasn't working but the armour benefit was still there so logically there has to be another reason for him taking it off. If the helmets neural link was damaged it could have been causing issues and justified taking it off... I was wanting to know how valid this idea was and any other possible explanations ... Ffs man this isn't anything like asking what sandwiches were eaten SMH.
@@yarus5889 I am very sleepy so apologies for grammar and such.
"Cats, dogs, and Riddick."
I gotta say. I was listening to this while multitasking. That really caught me off guard.
I love this channel and it’s theories!
I asked for this in one of your videos, and you answered. ❤
Looking at Spartan IVs, they are set up to be controllable. They are set up to be 'high maintenance' so that they have to stay loyal or basically die from system failure.
god dammit now all i can see is masterchief going "i live my life a quater mile at a time" 😂 also why do you not work at 343?
This is already wildly in the realms of possibility of humanity in the current timeline and could be interesting to see in game or in lore.
I heard that a fully equipped ancient humanity soldier was capable of destroying an entire planet alone, your idea of a spartan 5 human is incredible but nowhere close to ancient humanity
6:33 Fun fact there is a unique bone mutation that I have that makes my bones 8x denser than the average persons making them virtually unbreakable, swimming isn't my favorite thing because I can't really float which really sucks because I like pools. But that mutation mixed in with some sci-fi magic super soldier serum would make a spartan that would be more god than demi-god.
Personally I would like to see an "upgraded" version of Spartan 3's.
This video is giving me some serious fan-fic inspo!!!
Random proposal for another ad lib video:
Could the 50 Freelancers from Project: Freelancer (Red vs Blue) have been Spartan III’s and Spartan 2.2’s?
We know they wear Mjolnir-based armor, use Spartan Abilities, AI, and are often highly competent beings, almost or wholly super-human in nature.
At first, Dr. Leonard Church’s being the father of Carolina seems to debunk this, however he has both the resources to get Mjolnir, and an AI, and yet seems to have some reason not to have joined or functioned in the military. I think he was a Spartan II washout, and Carolina was a Spartan 2.2.
We know that there were 930 Spartan III’s, with the majority sent to suicidal missions en-mass, barring only a handful of teams and headhunters. Could
I am surprised ONI didn't include some sort of special codes into the newer Mjolnir to create remote triggers that would cause the armor to burn out it's controls, causing them to shut down and become inoperable, and incapable of being "Hacked" into working again without special ONI or Big Navy equipment that would prevent rebels from joining the insurgents with full Mjolnir equiped rogue Spartans, instead just having unarmored rogue Spartans which should be a decent bit reduced in effectiveness.
Installation 00 : if oni made spartan 5 be like...
meanwhile at the same time that day ..
Bungie and 343 walk in a bar one day
Bungie : hey guys!!
343 : what?
Bungie : I got it man.
343: got what?
Bungie : Halo infinite "ONI secret battalion the spartan V"
343: with gen 3 Mjolnir armour
Bungie: bruh
343: bruh
Halo Infinite : here we go again
Mentioning Eddie Hall, combining my love for halo and the gym
You would think a operation like ONI would have sum sort of fail safe in ALL Spartans, especially in the 4s.... I mean put sum explosive chip device at the base of their brain stem that could be activated if they went rogue....
Maybe we'll get to see an attack animal of some sort from the humans this time. All alien factions they've encountered so far had inter-special exploits, and today we have service dogs who're trained from law enforcement to special ops canines
if the bones get coated in titanium instead of the carbon based coating...
then wouldbthat mean that when a spartans bones do "break" that it would more resemble a bent piece of metal?
Just realized, this is essentially a more in-depth and complex story that was teased for us in Halo 5 lol. Before release. Would have been much better then what we got
& it's finally hear🦍❤👏🥦🔥😭✨🎆Now I Shall ask my question.......
What if there’s a Spartan V that’s a perfect copy of Master Chief? A propaganda machine, who has the memories and identity of the original Chief, but is made better and more obedient to ONI, and even more terrifying: easily replaced.
So just make a synthetic genome that can utilize all of the genetic options you describe. Synth super soldiers what could go wrong???
This SPARTAN-5 Program, but taught and trained by the Master Chief.
1 dislike at time of post: There’s always that one guy. Smh
No matter which augmentations they have, they’re still part of huMANIty. Everyone has their role; their contract.
HuMANIty
E pluribus unum
Out of many, one
The SPARTAN V program could be like a fusion of Spartan II and Iron Man Armor Model 37 (Bleeding Edge Armor) which would be amazing to see. This is how it works:
1. Selection - Gametes are selected from a gene pool derived from individuals with superior physical and mental capabilities compared to other human beings. At this point genetic engineering and manipulation techniques have evolved to the point that genes of these gametes can be altered accordingly to provide a wide array of desired results some of which will be discussed later. Once this is done the altered gametes are combined in various combinations to produce a zygote which are grown in birthing tanks for the full human gestation period.
2. Birth - After birth SPARTAN-V babies are assigned to adoptive family units situated on a classified colony world where they are raised. Careful attention would be paid to providing a highly nutritious diet along with vitamin/mineral supplements (with added titanium and carbon) on a daily basis. This would continue throughout their lives.
3. Year 1 - At age 6 SPARTAN-V candidates would go to a special military school where they would be put through hard training which was complemented with high-level education, which included mathematics, science, engineering, computing, reading, writing, history, martial arts and military tactics. They would be taught how to kill but at the same time would be taught the difference between right and wrong and careful attention was placed to ensure discipline, honor, and respect was instilled into the SPARTAN-V candidates [6].
4. SPARTAN-V augmentation procedures - These were a series of biochemical and biomechanical manipulations applied to SPARTAN-V candidates during the onset of puberty. These included:
(1) Muscular Enhancement Injections. A Protein complex is injected intramuscularly to increase tissue density and decrease lactase recovery time [4].
(2) SPARTAN-V neural interface implant. An upgrade to previous neural interfaces utilized by previous SPARTAN generations it allows a SPARTAN-V to directly control their MBE armor and the nano-machines that comprise his/her MBE armor as well as also allow an AI to directly interface with the Spartan's brain at an almost instantaneous rate. The AI is said to reside both inside the armor and inside the wearer's mind. Essentially, it is in both places at once [5]. The interface also allows the AI control of the MBE nano-machines and therefore the armor's systems as well, though the Spartan has override control [5]. The AI is capable of significantly improving the data transfer rate between the motor cortex of the Spartan and the MBE armor, further improving the Spartan's already lightning-quick reaction time [5]. The AI Data Crystal Chip is inserted into a socket near the base of the Spartan's skull [5].
(3) MBE Nano-machine Bonding Process. The MBE armor (Mjolnir Bleeding Edge) is made up of nano-machines attuned specifically to an individual SPARTAN-V's DNA composition that can turn into and create any type of structure upon the SPARTAN-V's skin [2]. The nano-machines reside within the bone matrix of the SPARTAN-V when not in use and when activated can turn into their default armor form or whatever the Spartan wants them to be/create on command via the SPARTAN-V neural interface link. In conjunction with an AI the possibilities become virtually endless.
Being composed of nano-machines the armor is capable of self-repair and therefore is almost invulnerable, as the armor is able to transform and heal itself, by having the constantly replicating nano-machines replace anything that is lost or used [2] and in addition the nano-machines are also able to heal the SPARTAN-V of almost any injures/illnesses they may sustain within seconds as well as enhance the existing biological functions of a SPARTAN-V if required. This is the most advance piece of military technology in human hands to date.
Alterations made in the genetic coding of candidates before birth meant that SPARTAN-V candidates did not have to undergo such dangerous, invasive procedures as previous generations of Spartans had to since it was not required. For instance:
- Due to genetic alterations to the GH1 gene, SPARTAN-Vs would naturally produce more growth hormone than normal at the onset of puberty to boost growth of skeletal and muscle tissues and therefore the need for a catalytic thyroid implant was negated.
- Due to alterations to the MSTN gene virtually no myostatin (a protein that inhibits muscle growth) is produced leading to increased muscle growth and strength.
- Due to alterations to specific genes governing sensory acuity, SPARTAN-Vs possess heightened visual, audio and olfactory perception.
- Due to genetic alterations to osteoblasts, titanium and carbon are naturally incorporated from the diet and used in the bone formation of SPARTAN-Vs the result being their bones are naturally as strong, if not stronger, than Spartans who have undergone ceramic carbide ossification surgery [1].
- Due to genetic alterations the neural dendrites of SPARTAN-Vs are already super-myelinated giving them an already 300% increase in subject reflexes as well as marked increase in intelligence, memory, and creativity [1].
- Genetic alterations meant that SPARTAN-Vs are physically/mentally perfect specimens and therefore their internal organs are already operating at peak capacity meaning they do not require replacing with artificial ones, especially when the repairing/enhancing capabilities of the MBE nano-machines present negated any such necessity.
All this meant that SPARTAN-Vs could be created in greater number, with a far greater success rate and with even GREATER capabilities to all past generations of SPARTANS, including SPARTAN-IIs.
So there you have it what do people think? Give me your thoughts and respects to Installation00 whose creative ideas were the basis of my own.
[1] - Spartan V Program Augmentations - A Proposal - Lore and Theory - Installation00 (youtube)
[2] - marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Man_Armor_Model_37
[3] - Most Detailed Breakdown - Spartan-II Augmentations - Installation00 (youtube)
[4] - halo.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_augmentation_procedures
[5] - halo.fandom.com/wiki/Spartan_Neural_Interface
[6] - thespartanprograms.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_Program
I have an idea that if master chief gets spartan v augmentations added to his preexisting spartan 2 augmentations will make him the size of s2 Kurt and the strength of the strongest s2 and the fastest s2 and the smartest s2 also with his luck also he will have a clone with a chip that can transfer his consciousness to a a blank clone that has his personality and all the augmentations I just stated and the consciousness of chief can only be done if he dies but the chip in his head is still intact and will make him even more stronger if he has an ai also like the weapon at least that my version of spartan v's or at least parts of his
What if they would indeed clone the spartan 5s but base their genome on that of elites instead of that of humans?
I feel like this wont happen as long as Saren Osmen is the head of ONI although she is ONI and doesn't really have the moral compass that normal people have shes doesnt want what happened to her (shes a spartan 2 drop out) to happen to anyone again but who knows she could see it the way you do
So, basically a Super-Soldier version of the Clone Commandos from Star Wars?
this could bring new headhunter. instillation said that spartan 5's would be used to kill rogue spartans. and head hunters would take up tasks very similar to this. i can' be the only one to see the correlation.
Wouldn't it be more efficient to use smart A.I.s in combat? Link them to a robotic frame and attach Mjolnir powered armor. Spartans think fast but I assume smart A.I.s think faster. Spartans can't fully utilize the extent of Mjolnir armor without damaging themselves and I think A.I.s could bypass that issue. And the use of A.I. would be less of a moral problem for ONI instead of cloning people while simultaneously being able to program loyalty into an A.I. shouldn't be too hard. I think a smart A.I. hunter-killer units could be effective Spartan Killers.
Good vid very interesting and very likely, I think this could also be used to create want I call : The Spartan Legacy Program.
Create new Spartans using the DNA of the best and greatest of there kind.
They could use any Spartan's DNA for this
I had a hypothetical years back, when the Spartan IV class first was rumoured. That there would be issues wirh them because not child solfiers and not indoctrinated etc etc. So i thought perhaps a Spartan V class but wirh clones that have issues ironed out. So wow, yoy also have thought of this, but gone much further with it. Like, for instance, the spartan k8ller idea. I theorised another great enemy, but didnt know what/who. And that they saw need to return to Spartan II child soldiers but in a way that avoided ethical issues, as spartan program well known. Well done on this video. I agree that this would be the next step for the reasons you outlined.
From what I've heard, Halo 5 isn't a very good game.
However that intro is phenomenally cool. The amount of work they put into making that was prolly huge.
Best option would be to clone the most successful Spartans with added DNA refinements and cognitive mapping with the experience of Spartan IIs. A upgraded neural interface fitted with a micro AI to enhance intelligence beyond even augmented Spartans and reinforce indoctrination to prevent rebellion and refusal of orders, as well as a permanent increase in reaction time and possibly some sort of bio feedback to improve overall performance.
Here's a question I've had for a while: could the neural interface used by all UNSC members be used by ONI to subliminally indoctrinate those fitted with them, causing personnel to be more in line with their beliefs and morals ( if they had any ) ensuring loyalty and obedience to the UNSC, while any orders given by ONI are followed with little to no refusal.
Put some kind of durable material, grown on the cellular level, that weaves throughout the brain as it develops. This means the brain is no longer jelly-like, and much more tough, greatly reducing brain damage should something get into the skull, and preventing the knockout effect when the brain sloshes inside the skull.
That's exactly what I theorized S-Vs might be like and how to make them even better than S-IIs!!
Big missed opportunity to call it "Project Thermopylae" or something, if they're supposed to be Spartan-killers.
Star Wars clone troopers ? In the Halo universe? Can’t see it somehow
First off with volunteers quickly pouring in to replace spartan IV losses and pretty much the cheapest spartan armor in existence. You need to come up a reason to why a V class is needed
He did came with a reason. And to be honest this is what ONI would do