Fuji GF lenses are as good as Hasselblad HC lenses (I also own both systems). My primary purpose to use this adapter would be for benefiting from the leaf shutter while using a strobe, which is the main weakness of the Fujifilm GFX system. I wish we could see how the leaf shutter functions while using flash outdoor. 📸
I would have loved to see this include the x2d and that same lens. It would be interesting. I loved my gfx100s and now have been enjoying my x2d for the past week. There is a certain beauty in its simplicity.
@@mathphotographer great! I will love to see the comparison. I now have the converter 0,8 along with the HX 75 Hasselblad tripod collar for one of my HC Lenses (50-110) as it is rather heavy with the converter attached after seeing your HTC video with the 3rd party tripod mount which I could not find. I found a great deal on an open box Hasselblad tripod mount which was the same price in the end as the 3rd party new! Great to not add too much weight to the bodies lens mount when possible.
Definitely what I thought as well. Finally got my X2D with an 80/1.9 and the 45P. Excellent image quality. Given that one might like to jump between Fuji and Hasselblad, I am wondering if H lenses could be a „converter solution“ meaning you can invest in them instead of in many native lenses GF and XCD. However, the 80/1.9 is also excellent for sure! Would be terrific to get your impressions! 😊
@Mahdi Manesh I have the hc 28mm and hc 50-110. I use the HC 0,8 for the X2D connection. The Image quality is fantastic. The only negative is only for the zoom and its weight. Fine for studio and special projects but native xcd lenses are more wrist and travel friendly. I love the HCD orange 28mm though in my x2d. I ordered the 90v 2,5 but it never came. I ended up happily using the 110 end of the zoom and it is gorgeous for portraits. I also have a 80mm 1.9 mamiya 645 lens that fulfills any desire for shallow DOF but I actually like context in my images so that's not a big deal.
@@anthonyrock5039 Thx man this is a great hint! I also thought about getting the old Zeiss 110/2.0 but as you say: my XCD80/1.9 has enough shallow DoF already. Maybe a 65/2.8 would be a good in between option. 😅
Great breakdown of the GFX and HC lenses combination! I have been looking into getting a GFX and think that the ability to attach these lenses and be able to use the leaf shutter is the final piece to convince me. Way better than having to think about getting HSS flash or anything like that
Have you tried using the leaf shutter with flash? I find that there are very few reviews or information about anyone doing so. Found a couple on B+H reviews for the mount but very little else
I use combo X1D + H Adaper + HC80/2.8. I also had XCD80mm f/1.9. I like this combination much more than XCD80/1.9. Bokeh, micro contrast, images are much better at 80/2.8
@@mathphotographer Let us know! 😃 If the 80/2.8 is really even “better“ than the XCD version 80/1.9 at then this means something. I wonder how 1.9 vs 2.8 look on an X2D or GFX100S as well. Because in the end, the DoF should be more shallow… but I can imagine that maybe the 2.8 will look smoother still due to better glas. 😅
@@mahdimanesh4221 Thanks Mahdi, I will share my experience once I shot the HC 2.8/80 on my X2D. The big advantage of HC lenses is their generally larger image circle which makes the camera using only the juicy part of the lens. I expect image quality to be stunning!
great discussion, but one tip, with the tripod mounting, the 300 lens (most telephoto in HC lineup) has a mounting on the lens itself, I would suggest you use that, NOT the adaptor mounting foot!, as this is quite long and reasonably heavy (1100g approx); plus this has the hasselblad slide on the bottom, so you can use the qr system.
Hi Math ! Excellent video as always !! Would you recommend using HC/HCD lenses on Fuji, or native lenses ? I never thought about that, but when I see the results, WOW ! Thanks a lot ! Colin
Nice 'Frankenstein' video again but you gave me the chills when you said Super Sharp as only substantiation for the quality of that lens. Super Sharp is BY FAR not (only) a rate of quality. Anyways, thanks for sharing an a great weekend !!
Haha RS, not so much "Frankenstein" since Fuji seems to intend this camera being shot with Hasselblad HC lenses, otherwise they would not manufacture a dedicated adapter :) Besides sharpness, background bokeh and transitions, which I mentioned and demonstrated in the video, anything else is immediately visible by looking at the images: nice colors, aesthetic appearance of the images, etc. Have a nice weekend too! :)
@@RS-Amsterdam that would be interesting. But there would be vignetting issues as the gf lens image circle is quite a bit smaller. It would be like using apsc on a full frame. I really liked my gf110 so that would be interesting to see on a h(x)d body. I swapped out my gfx for a X2D and have been playing with the mamiya 80 1.9 which is really lovely. Works well.
@@mathphotographer I think it is quite logical that Fuji offers this native adapter since the Hasselblad H-System was developed together with Fujifilm and they offered there own Version of the System, the Fujifilm GX645AF, until 2010. It was the same as the H1 from Hasselblad and all lenses are identical. But Fujifilm never developed there camera over the time, it stayed allways a "H1". But I think, as it was more or less Fujifilm tech and the lenses were also all Fujifilm made, it was an obvious choice to offer such an adapter
Would be amazing if Fuji made a tilt/shift adapter for the HC lenses. It would take advantage of the big image circle, and wouldn't have to sacrifice the electronic contacts.
Thanks for the great video! I just bought a used one. However, the aperture changes in real time like a depth-of-field preview is turned on. How can I turn it off? When I try to shoot with F16 in the studio, the live view is too dark...
This video is very exciting for me. Well done! No comparison with photos from the H6D, though? I'm interested in the H series bodies rendering next to the Fuji. I don't yet own any digital medium format bodies, but I do have three HC lenses. I'm more drawn to the full 53x40mm sensor, because WOW. I'm especially curious about the older 60mp CCD versions. Is this foolish? The pixel pitch on the Gfx 100 is 3.76 microns where on the Hasselblad H5D-60 it is a whopping 6 microns. A better comparison might be the Fuji 50mp version with 5.3 microns pixel pitch. It's possible the newer Fuji sensor would look better, and certainly the camera is more pleasant to operate. The key thing I'd be watching for isn't sharpness, but colour definition/richness, also micro contrast. As mp count gets higher on cameras we're being sold the increase in dynamic range, but are there other metrics of image quality being quietly sacrificed? I've studied the images from both the H6D-100 and the H5D-60, and the 100 looks flatter. A comparison between the Fuji GFX mp options would be fascinating. Thanks for making your video so detailed, yet also easy to follow.
The CCD sensor is a killer at ISO 100. I bought a 31DII in 2008. And later on changed to H5D-50c, which I still use. Every now and then, I stumble over some old pictures and wonder why they look better. I look into the metadata it shows H31DII. And I remember when I went from CCD to CMOS sensor that CCD on native ISO is hands down the better one. But when you go up in ISO it drops in quality.
@@MrSbozic thank you! That's been my suspicion as I research these cameras. An H5D-60 would be the ultimate score, and I wouldn't think about budging from ISO 100. Thanks for your real world experience
I bought this adapter but my camera isn’t letting me shoot. Any ideas or recommendations? The camera says turn off and back on with the adapter and lens on. I updated the firmware on the camera and adapter but still doesn’t work.
Hello mathphotographer, I just had a breakthrough with glass quality, within reasonable parameters I never could see much difference in lens quality. Until last night when I was shooting with my A7 some glass wear, I changed the sony lens for a Canon 100mm F2.8 macro. I am still a bit in a shock ..What a difference !!!! I want to step-up to either hasselblad HD camera {bigger sensor} or a Fujifilm GFX 100s in your suggested configuration, a more versatile camera, however, I shoot mostly products and autofocus and all that, doesn't interest me that much. It's the overall image quality of color and the beautiful gradients that I need. Would I get that from a from a Fijifilm GFX100s? Thank you so much for your excellent video ! looking forward to see more. Happy 2023 Kind regards, Hendrik
Many thanks, Hendrik. On colors, Hasselblad is the king. On general value proposition, Fuji GFX is superior in medium format. So it really depends on what your field of application is. Your positive feedback on my content made my day, many thanks for that.
the best thing about using hcd lenses on fuji is that as they were designed for even bigger size sensor the vignetting & even corner sharpness would be far far better than fuji's own lenses. No wonder fuji made an official 1st party adapter for them.
Absolutely, spot on. Since the H6D has a larger sensor, Hasselblad HC lenses are calculated for a larger sensor so that on the smaller GFX sensor you use the more centered optics of the lens which means you use the most juicy part of HC lenses. The result is terrific image quality.
Have you tested this lens against the Fuji 80/1.7, I would have thought that when the Fuji is stopped down to f/2.8 it would be just as sharp, and have similar rendering across the frame (minimal cats-eye bokeh). The main advantage with the Fuji is of course autofocus. Any idea why the HC lens cannot autofocus on this adapter, considering it has electronic contacts, is it because the autofocus is meant to be screw driven by the HCD body?
H-Lenses are not screw driven. They work with autofocus (if current firmware is installed, which requires a certain minimum built date) adapted on the X1D and X2D. Somwhere I read Fujifilm stated they wanted to implement AF for H-Lenses first but it was difficult with power delivery. Maybe and this is only my assumption it is because the H-Lenses use traditional built in stepper motors and all GFX lenses are ultrasonic linear-motors and stepper motors consume more power which the bus on the GFX cannot deliver but the X1D (X2D) can because the old XCD lenses have also classic stepper motors or they were just built with full adaptability of H-lenses in mind.
The Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses are made by Fuji anyway. No autofocus possible, not sure why. Only Leica S Adapter H allows full autofocus on all HC lenses.
Great discussion, thanks. I will see how the HC 80 performs on the Hasselblad X2D next weeks, really curious to shoot this combo too. Then, of course, I can use the 0.8x converter from Hasselblad.
... I apologize for my silly question, but : can you also attach Fujinon GF lenses to Hasseblad X2D body anyhow? Is it technically realistic? If so, are there any adapters, etc.?
So, does Capture One apply lens corrections for combinations like this? On a photo forum earlier this year, I asked if C1 would apply corrections to Contax 645 lenses on a Leica S body. The answer was yes, but of course that is a rare combination, so nobody actually tested it. They just assumed.
I really enjoy your informative videos. Thanks! Curiously, that lens is made by Fujifilm. Fuji made the OEM lens line for the Hasselblad H cameras. That’s why Fujifilm also makes the H lens adaptor.
Do HCD/HC lenses focus quick on the GFX100S versus the X1Dii? Would you say the GFX100s would be a good companion to the X1Dii for quick focus situations, if you're invested in HC/HCD lenses already?
@@mathphotographerdoes it display when it achieves focus on the square or is that still something that the adapter does not offer? I realise that auto focus doesn’t work but would be good if it could indicate when you have found focus at a particular point. Frustrating that they couldn’t allow the auto focus though considering fuji developed the lenses
Hello Mathphotographer. Thanks for the awesome video. Is there a huge difference between the image quality of the HC 80mm with the orange dot and the HC 80mm without the dot?
The optics is about the same but the orange dot lens is firmware upgradable, works better and has a slightly better build quality, would always recommend to go for the orange dot version.
Hi Mat Hasselblad most recent leaf shutters only go up to 1/1000s Speeds shorter than 1/1000s on Hasselblad cameras are hybrid : leaf + electronic. Are these lenses able to go to 1/2000s on Fuji cameras ? (hybrid exposure). On Hasselblad cameras pure leaf speeds up to 1/1000s exposure errors due to aperture setting can be electronically corrected, this menu option is called "True Exposure", are Fuji cameras able to correct the aperture related exposure error of the leaf shutter ?
Thanks Jean-Claude. The HC 80 can shoot as fast as 1/2000 sec (orange square), older versions of this lens are limited to 1/1000 sec. "True exposure" is a Hasselblad feature, not available on other camera bodies.
Thanks Mat, so if H lenses can go to 1/2000s on Fuji cameras it means that they use in their cameras the last Hasselblad hybrid shutter protocol that only exists on Hasselblad H6D, A6D and X system cameras, whats not possible on film cameras like H6X that's limited to mechanical shutter leaf modus 1/800s for non orange dot and 1/1000s for orange dot. Fuji cameras don't need this special hybrid leaf protocol in their own ecosystem, what mean that Fuji builds cameras clearly intended to work with modern Hasselblad optics !
YES! the leaf shutter works. all the H system lenses are made by fujifilm. so you get sync speeds of 1/800 or 1/2000 depending on the lens if it's orange dot or not. works a charm.
Yes- they work. But fastest shutter speed on "no orange square" HC lenses is 1/1000 sec vs. 1/2000 sec plus firmware upgradable on "orange square" HC lenses.
Yes, they do, regardless how old they are. But AF on X1D or X2D will only work with H-lenses which have at least firmware 18.0 and can therefore be upgraded to the newest firmware. This is true for most lenses manufactured after 2013 (and all orange dot ones). The problem is the ROM in the lenses. After ca 2013 there was a bigger ROM (and in all orange dot variants) built in which is needed for the newest Firmware 19.X.
@@mathphotographer actually old H lenses will have fastest shutter speed of 1/800, not 1/1000. Are you sure attached to GFX the new lenses will go to 1/2000? I thought that is only on Hasselblad bodies
Thanks and good wish on a wish list ;) But this will very likely never materialize ... and don't get me wrong: I also hate using electronic shutter when shooting 3rd party lenses with adapter on the Hasselblad cameras. The readout time of the sensor is so slow that any movement in the scene will result in bad rolling shutter effects.
@@mathphotographer yes but if you don't mind 14 but raw images, it is quite a bit better(faster read, not better quality). The image stabilisation also helps a great deal.
@@mathphotographer I ask this, as I don't know how you determine which you use, as in V-system CF lenses, you switch the shutter dial to F position, to use focal plane shutters (in 200/2000 series), or on those bodies, the shutter dial to C position, to use the lens shutter. HC/HCD lenses are automatic lenses, like the nikon G series, no control only the focus ring.
@@andyvan5692 As Fuji lens H adapter G has an option for you to choose internal shooter in lens or body, Just press side button on adapter it will bring up that option in camera screen.
great video, but some issues with the nomenclature, this 'MF' is the 6x4.5 cm size!!, MF can come in lots of 'flavors', from 33x44 ( fuji gfx, hassy XCD), 6x4.5 (Hassy H system, FILM size when fitted with HM-16/32 backs, mamiya 645, Phase one XF), 6x6 ( good old Hassy V-system, Rollei and other makers HY-6), 6x7 ( mamiya 7, RB/RZ 67's, pentax67), 6x8/9 ( Fuji Gx 680/690, Mamiya press/universal[6x9]); one small LF technical camera size, 6.5x9 (linhof baby's); and to round the list out the panoramic formats namely fuji 6x12 & 6x17.
Thanks Andy, I wanted to keep it simple and just mentioned MF at H6D 53.4mm x 40mm and GFX / Hasselblad-X with ca. 44mm x 33mm. But, as you might have seen on my channel, I also shoot film cameras: Mamiya RZ 67, Mamiya 7 II, Mamiya 645, Rolleiflex, etc. - so I am fully aware of the variations of MF film and sensors :)
@@mathphotographer yes, but I said this as to call the sub 6x4.5 sensor size a "full MF" is misleading, the full mf would be the 6x7 size!, not going panoramic, I think what fujifilm was intending it to mean was full format in comparison to their own xt camera (not to be confused with phase one's XT camera 🙂).
@@mathphotographer I have two fx 50s cameras (one at work and one at home). And the bouncing diaphragm does not work with hasselblad HC120 macro. I focus on the open aperture, then close the aperture to 16 or 22 and only then take a picture. It takes a long time to turn the wheel.
Ha! There ist :) Full medium format (Hasselblad H6D and Phase One IQ4 is 53.4mm x 40mm) and cropped medium format is 44mm x 33mm (Hasselblad X and Fuji GFX).
@@mathphotographer Hi Math. There is also no “ full medium format” term in the photography world. It is your opinion and your sentences. Anything bigger than 35mm and smaller than large format is a medium format.Sorry
@@GKhanKutar That's ok and true too, thanks GKhan. But if Fuji can "invent" (see their website) freely a wrong notion of "large format" for their GFX sensors (which is complete nonsense since we all know what "large format" in film photography is and how far it is away from GFX sensors), then I feel liberated to use "cropped medium format" vs "full medium format" :) I hope you saw in the video that I explained what I mean by it and that I also clearly said that "this is the way I call it" ... in any case your comment is absolutely correct although I feel ok using my own terms as long as I clearly explain what I mean by it.
One more great video. You are a Very good teacher. I just would Like to know the price of the Adaptator. And one more thing When you shoot panoramic photo What the bigest size you can Print to keep a high quality?
Many thanks! The adapter cost around USD 600. On panorama shots, there is no firm limit ... the more frames you combine, the higher the resolution and the larger your print options.
Thanks Johnny, great offer but for the time being I am fine with my logo where I am. Maybe some time in the future I will consider an upgrade and get back to you.
There is no such thing as full frame or crop medium format. Medium format encompasses all sensors and films that are larger than 35mm and smaller than 4x5 large format. If you call a 53.4 x 40mm full frame medium format, then what is a 6x6 cm or 6x9 cm medium format film camera?
Its a terminology I adopted for some time to distinguish the larger medium format sensor in the Hasselblad H6D and Phase One IQ4 (53.4x40) from the smaller medium format (44x33) in the Fuji GFX and Hasselblad X2D - constraining the discussion to digital sensors where you basically have these two medium formats plus the special size in the Leica S3. But you are absolutely right, generally speaking every sensor larger than 36x24 and every film larger than 35mm as long as they are smaller than large format are called "medium format". No issue with that :)
Ha! Fuji encourages us to shoot medium format Hasselblad lenses on Fuji GFX camera bodies, that's why they manufacture and offer this adapter. And the quality of images confirms that Fuji had the right intuition bringing this adapter to market :)
the amount of real data, good comparisons and technical stuff is really appreciated. Thanks
Fuji GF lenses are as good as Hasselblad HC lenses (I also own both systems). My primary purpose to use this adapter would be for benefiting from the leaf shutter while using a strobe, which is the main weakness of the Fujifilm GFX system. I wish we could see how the leaf shutter functions while using flash outdoor. 📸
Great detailed review with plenty of convincing results!
I would have loved to see this include the x2d and that same lens. It would be interesting. I loved my gfx100s and now have been enjoying my x2d for the past week. There is a certain beauty in its simplicity.
This video will come, I am currently shooting and experimenting with the X2D plus HC lenses.
@@mathphotographer great! I will love to see the comparison. I now have the converter 0,8 along with the HX 75 Hasselblad tripod collar for one of my HC Lenses (50-110) as it is rather heavy with the converter attached after seeing your HTC video with the 3rd party tripod mount which I could not find. I found a great deal on an open box Hasselblad tripod mount which was the same price in the end as the 3rd party new! Great to not add too much weight to the bodies lens mount when possible.
Definitely what I thought as well. Finally got my X2D with an 80/1.9 and the 45P. Excellent image quality. Given that one might like to jump between Fuji and Hasselblad, I am wondering if H lenses could be a „converter solution“ meaning you can invest in them instead of in many native lenses GF and XCD. However, the 80/1.9 is also excellent for sure! Would be terrific to get your impressions! 😊
@Mahdi Manesh I have the hc 28mm and hc 50-110. I use the HC 0,8 for the X2D connection. The Image quality is fantastic. The only negative is only for the zoom and its weight. Fine for studio and special projects but native xcd lenses are more wrist and travel friendly. I love the HCD orange 28mm though in my x2d. I ordered the 90v 2,5 but it never came. I ended up happily using the 110 end of the zoom and it is gorgeous for portraits. I also have a 80mm 1.9 mamiya 645 lens that fulfills any desire for shallow DOF but I actually like context in my images so that's not a big deal.
@@anthonyrock5039 Thx man this is a great hint! I also thought about getting the old Zeiss 110/2.0 but as you say: my XCD80/1.9 has enough shallow DoF already. Maybe a 65/2.8 would be a good in between option. 😅
Thanks for this valuable information. One question: Does image stabilization work the Fuji GFX and the Hasselblad lens H combination?
Truly THE BEST you can get! Thanks for this video Math!
Pleasure! Thanks Lucy.
Great breakdown of the GFX and HC lenses combination! I have been looking into getting a GFX and think that the ability to attach these lenses and be able to use the leaf shutter is the final piece to convince me. Way better than having to think about getting HSS flash or anything like that
Thanks!
Have you tried using the leaf shutter with flash? I find that there are very few reviews or information about anyone doing so. Found a couple on B+H reviews for the mount but very little else
I use combo X1D + H Adaper + HC80/2.8. I also had XCD80mm f/1.9. I like this combination much more than XCD80/1.9. Bokeh, micro contrast, images are much better at 80/2.8
Thanks for sharing your experience, Anton. I will shoot the HC 2.8/80 next weeks on the Hasselblad X2D, let's see how I like it :)
Very interesting
@@mathphotographer Let us know! 😃 If the 80/2.8 is really even “better“ than the XCD version 80/1.9 at then this means something. I wonder how 1.9 vs 2.8 look on an X2D or GFX100S as well. Because in the end, the DoF should be more shallow… but I can imagine that maybe the 2.8 will look smoother still due to better glas. 😅
@@mahdimanesh4221 Thanks Mahdi, I will share my experience once I shot the HC 2.8/80 on my X2D. The big advantage of HC lenses is their generally larger image circle which makes the camera using only the juicy part of the lens. I expect image quality to be stunning!
Great video. I use my GFX 50S II with HC 4/120, HC2.8/80, HC 3.5-4.5/50-110 and HCD 4/28 with the H Adapter G. Works very well.
Thanks! Its great that Fuji offers that native adapter with additional functionality.
Looks like the way to go if one likes to invest in one batch of glass and be able to switch between Fuji and Hassy bodies 😎
This is amazing, I can finally use my HC lenses on my GFX 50S! 🥰
great discussion, but one tip, with the tripod mounting, the 300 lens (most telephoto in HC lineup) has a mounting on the lens itself, I would suggest you use that, NOT the adaptor mounting foot!, as this is quite long and reasonably heavy (1100g approx); plus this has the hasselblad slide on the bottom, so you can use the qr system.
Hi Math !
Excellent video as always !!
Would you recommend using HC/HCD lenses on Fuji, or native lenses ?
I never thought about that, but when I see the results, WOW !
Thanks a lot !
Colin
@3:10 What are the other options to mount an HC lens on a GFX?
Nice 'Frankenstein' video again but you gave me the chills when you said Super Sharp as only
substantiation for the quality of that lens.
Super Sharp is BY FAR not (only) a rate of quality.
Anyways, thanks for sharing an a great weekend !!
The H lenses are excellent. And the HC 4/120 provides 1:1 macro without tubes. Better than GF120 Macro.
Haha RS, not so much "Frankenstein" since Fuji seems to intend this camera being shot with Hasselblad HC lenses, otherwise they would not manufacture a dedicated adapter :) Besides sharpness, background bokeh and transitions, which I mentioned and demonstrated in the video, anything else is immediately visible by looking at the images: nice colors, aesthetic appearance of the images, etc. Have a nice weekend too! :)
@@mathphotographer Is there an adapter to do it the other way around ? 🤔
@@RS-Amsterdam that would be interesting. But there would be vignetting issues as the gf lens image circle is quite a bit smaller. It would be like using apsc on a full frame. I really liked my gf110 so that would be interesting to see on a h(x)d body. I swapped out my gfx for a X2D and have been playing with the mamiya 80 1.9 which is really lovely. Works well.
@@mathphotographer I think it is quite logical that Fuji offers this native adapter since the Hasselblad H-System was developed together with Fujifilm and they offered there own Version of the System, the Fujifilm GX645AF, until 2010. It was the same as the H1 from Hasselblad and all lenses are identical. But Fujifilm never developed there camera over the time, it stayed allways a "H1". But I think, as it was more or less Fujifilm tech and the lenses were also all Fujifilm made, it was an obvious choice to offer such an adapter
Would be amazing if Fuji made a tilt/shift adapter for the HC lenses. It would take advantage of the big image circle, and wouldn't have to sacrifice the electronic contacts.
Did you ever do the X2D version of this video?
Thanks for the great video! I just bought a used one. However, the aperture changes in real time like a depth-of-field preview is turned on. How can I turn it off? When I try to shoot with F16 in the studio, the live view is too dark...
Hi, great info!
Do you know how to update the H to GFX adapter?
My GFX100s does not recognize the H lenses with the adapter attached.
This video is very exciting for me. Well done! No comparison with photos from the H6D, though? I'm interested in the H series bodies rendering next to the Fuji. I don't yet own any digital medium format bodies, but I do have three HC lenses. I'm more drawn to the full 53x40mm sensor, because WOW. I'm especially curious about the older 60mp CCD versions. Is this foolish? The pixel pitch on the Gfx 100 is 3.76 microns where on the Hasselblad H5D-60 it is a whopping 6 microns. A better comparison might be the Fuji 50mp version with 5.3 microns pixel pitch. It's possible the newer Fuji sensor would look better, and certainly the camera is more pleasant to operate.
The key thing I'd be watching for isn't sharpness, but colour definition/richness, also micro contrast. As mp count gets higher on cameras we're being sold the increase in dynamic range, but are there other metrics of image quality being quietly sacrificed? I've studied the images from both the H6D-100 and the H5D-60, and the 100 looks flatter. A comparison between the Fuji GFX mp options would be fascinating.
Thanks for making your video so detailed, yet also easy to follow.
The CCD sensor is a killer at ISO 100. I bought a 31DII in 2008. And later on changed to H5D-50c, which I still use. Every now and then, I stumble over some old pictures and wonder why they look better. I look into the metadata it shows H31DII. And I remember when I went from CCD to CMOS sensor that CCD on native ISO is hands down the better one. But when you go up in ISO it drops in quality.
@@MrSbozic thank you! That's been my suspicion as I research these cameras. An H5D-60 would be the ultimate score, and I wouldn't think about budging from ISO 100. Thanks for your real world experience
The Fuji GFX renders these Hasselblad HC lenses very well but they will be even better on the Hasselblad H6D, no doubt!
Have you tried this set up and used the hasselblad TS adapter in between to get a TS function to the Fuji?
Is there an adaptor that allows for autofocus on the HC lens?
I bought this adapter but my camera isn’t letting me shoot. Any ideas or recommendations? The camera says turn off and back on with the adapter and lens on. I updated the firmware on the camera and adapter but still doesn’t work.
Hello mathphotographer, I just had a breakthrough with glass quality, within reasonable parameters I never could see much difference in lens quality. Until last night when I was shooting with my A7 some glass wear, I changed the sony lens for a Canon 100mm F2.8 macro. I am still a bit in a shock ..What a difference !!!!
I want to step-up to either hasselblad HD camera {bigger sensor} or a Fujifilm GFX 100s in your suggested configuration, a more versatile camera, however, I shoot mostly products and autofocus and all that, doesn't interest me that much. It's the overall image quality of color and the beautiful gradients that I need. Would I get that from a from a Fijifilm GFX100s?
Thank you so much for your excellent video !
looking forward to see more.
Happy 2023
Kind regards,
Hendrik
Many thanks, Hendrik. On colors, Hasselblad is the king. On general value proposition, Fuji GFX is superior in medium format. So it really depends on what your field of application is. Your positive feedback on my content made my day, many thanks for that.
You think Hasselblad HC lenses are sharper than the fuji GF (at same focal lenght) equivalent lens ?
the best thing about using hcd lenses on fuji is that as they were designed for even bigger size sensor the vignetting & even corner sharpness would be far far better than fuji's own lenses. No wonder fuji made an official 1st party adapter for them.
Absolutely, spot on. Since the H6D has a larger sensor, Hasselblad HC lenses are calculated for a larger sensor so that on the smaller GFX sensor you use the more centered optics of the lens which means you use the most juicy part of HC lenses. The result is terrific image quality.
Fuji makes the darn lenses! All the H system lenses are made by Fujifilm. why they don't autofocus the lens is beyond me.
@@Juventinos I didn't know this. WOW thanks. I think it's Fujinon division not exactly Fujifilm right?
Can the HASSELBLAD 80MM 2.8 CF LENS be mounted to this adapter and be used? Thanks in advance.
Curious, you have adapted other lenses to the X2D, do you have any plans to test adaption of Leica mount lenses to the X2D?
Have you tested this lens against the Fuji 80/1.7, I would have thought that when the Fuji is stopped down to f/2.8 it would be just as sharp, and have similar rendering across the frame (minimal cats-eye bokeh). The main advantage with the Fuji is of course autofocus. Any idea why the HC lens cannot autofocus on this adapter, considering it has electronic contacts, is it because the autofocus is meant to be screw driven by the HCD body?
H-Lenses are not screw driven. They work with autofocus (if current firmware is installed, which requires a certain minimum built date) adapted on the X1D and X2D.
Somwhere I read Fujifilm stated they wanted to implement AF for H-Lenses first but it was difficult with power delivery.
Maybe and this is only my assumption it is because the H-Lenses use traditional built in stepper motors and all GFX lenses are ultrasonic linear-motors and stepper motors consume more power which the bus on the GFX cannot deliver but the X1D (X2D) can because the old XCD lenses have also classic stepper motors or they were just built with full adaptability of H-lenses in mind.
The Hasselblad HC and HCD lenses are made by Fuji anyway. No autofocus possible, not sure why. Only Leica S Adapter H allows full autofocus on all HC lenses.
Btw, the Fuji 1.7/80 has better bokeh, but suffers from heavy blue fringing in out of focus highlights at f/1.7.
Great discussion, thanks. I will see how the HC 80 performs on the Hasselblad X2D next weeks, really curious to shoot this combo too. Then, of course, I can use the 0.8x converter from Hasselblad.
@@sgroadie6367 but if we use it at 2.8 ...
Where this adapter is sold?
... I apologize for my silly question, but : can you also attach Fujinon GF lenses to Hasseblad X2D body anyhow? Is it technically realistic? If so, are there any adapters, etc.?
So, does Capture One apply lens corrections for combinations like this? On a photo forum earlier this year, I asked if C1 would apply corrections to Contax 645 lenses on a Leica S body. The answer was yes, but of course that is a rare combination, so nobody actually tested it. They just assumed.
Thanks Karim, to be honest, I need to look into it. My guess would be yes but let me check.
I really enjoy your informative videos. Thanks! Curiously, that lens is made by Fujifilm. Fuji made the OEM lens line for the Hasselblad H cameras. That’s why Fujifilm also makes the H lens adaptor.
Likely yes. Thanks Michael.
Have you evaluated any of the other HC lenses?
Do HCD/HC lenses focus quick on the GFX100S versus the X1Dii? Would you say the GFX100s would be a good companion to the X1Dii for quick focus situations, if you're invested in HC/HCD lenses already?
HC/HCD lenses on the Fuji GFX100s with adapter have no autofocus but only manual focus.
@@mathphotographerdoes it display when it achieves focus on the square or is that still something that the adapter does not offer? I realise that auto focus doesn’t work but would be good if it could indicate when you have found focus at a particular point. Frustrating that they couldn’t allow the auto focus though considering fuji developed the lenses
Hello Mathphotographer. Thanks for the awesome video. Is there a huge difference between the image quality of the HC 80mm with the orange dot and the HC 80mm without the dot?
The optics is about the same but the orange dot lens is firmware upgradable, works better and has a slightly better build quality, would always recommend to go for the orange dot version.
And the orange dot version lens has a faster leaf shutter - that makes a big difference in shooting options!
Hi Mat
Hasselblad most recent leaf shutters only go up to 1/1000s
Speeds shorter than 1/1000s on Hasselblad cameras are hybrid : leaf + electronic.
Are these lenses able to go to 1/2000s on Fuji cameras ? (hybrid exposure).
On Hasselblad cameras pure leaf speeds up to 1/1000s exposure errors due to aperture setting can be electronically corrected, this menu option is called "True Exposure", are Fuji cameras able to correct the aperture related exposure error of the leaf shutter ?
Thanks Jean-Claude. The HC 80 can shoot as fast as 1/2000 sec (orange square), older versions of this lens are limited to 1/1000 sec. "True exposure" is a Hasselblad feature, not available on other camera bodies.
Thanks Mat, so if H lenses can go to 1/2000s on Fuji cameras it means that they use in their cameras the last Hasselblad hybrid shutter protocol that only exists on Hasselblad H6D, A6D and X system cameras, whats not possible on film cameras like H6X that's limited to mechanical shutter leaf modus 1/800s for non orange dot and 1/1000s for orange dot.
Fuji cameras don't need this special hybrid leaf protocol in their own ecosystem, what mean that Fuji builds cameras clearly intended to work with modern Hasselblad optics !
Can you use this set up with flash strobes in the studio?
I would have to figure out how to do it, have not done it before in studio.
YES! the leaf shutter works. all the H system lenses are made by fujifilm. so you get sync speeds of 1/800 or 1/2000 depending on the lens if it's orange dot or not. works a charm.
Thank you for test, do you think HCD 80mm sharper than 100mm ? Can you test HCD 100mm on X2D?
The HC 80mm is hard to top in terms of sharpness, and the FoV of the 80mm is a more natural view than what you get with 100mm.
Isn't the 80mm HC 2.8 an auto focus lens?
Hi! Do you know if the HC/HCD lenses that doesn´t have the orange dot and older firmware works with the setup you just shown?
Yes- they work. But fastest shutter speed on "no orange square" HC lenses is 1/1000 sec vs. 1/2000 sec plus firmware upgradable on "orange square" HC lenses.
Yes, they do, regardless how old they are. But AF on X1D or X2D will only work with H-lenses which have at least firmware 18.0 and can therefore be upgraded to the newest firmware. This is true for most lenses manufactured after 2013 (and all orange dot ones). The problem is the ROM in the lenses. After ca 2013 there was a bigger ROM (and in all orange dot variants) built in which is needed for the newest Firmware 19.X.
@@mathphotographer actually old H lenses will have fastest shutter speed of 1/800, not 1/1000.
Are you sure attached to GFX the new lenses will go to 1/2000? I thought that is only on Hasselblad bodies
If only hasselblad offered an adapter or included software that allowed using leaf shutter in other lenses rather than relying on just E-shutter
Thanks and good wish on a wish list ;) But this will very likely never materialize ... and don't get me wrong: I also hate using electronic shutter when shooting 3rd party lenses with adapter on the Hasselblad cameras. The readout time of the sensor is so slow that any movement in the scene will result in bad rolling shutter effects.
@@mathphotographer yes but if you don't mind 14 but raw images, it is quite a bit better(faster read, not better quality). The image stabilisation also helps a great deal.
by the way which shutter are you using, the Leaf shutter in the Hasselblad lens, or the "electronic" in the fujifilm?
You can use both. Standard for me is the shutter in the camera body but if I need higher flash sync speed I go for the leaf shutter in the lens.
@@mathphotographer I ask this, as I don't know how you determine which you use, as in V-system CF lenses, you switch the shutter dial to F position, to use focal plane shutters (in 200/2000 series), or on those bodies, the shutter dial to C position, to use the lens shutter. HC/HCD lenses are automatic lenses, like the nikon G series, no control only the focus ring.
@@andyvan5692 As Fuji lens H adapter G has an option for you to choose internal shooter in lens or body, Just press side button on adapter it will bring up that option in camera screen.
great video, but some issues with the nomenclature, this 'MF' is the 6x4.5 cm size!!, MF can come in lots of 'flavors', from 33x44 ( fuji gfx, hassy XCD), 6x4.5 (Hassy H system, FILM size when fitted with HM-16/32 backs, mamiya 645, Phase one XF), 6x6 ( good old Hassy V-system, Rollei and other makers HY-6), 6x7 ( mamiya 7, RB/RZ 67's, pentax67), 6x8/9 ( Fuji Gx 680/690, Mamiya press/universal[6x9]); one small LF technical camera size, 6.5x9 (linhof baby's); and to round the list out the panoramic formats namely fuji 6x12 & 6x17.
Thanks Andy, I wanted to keep it simple and just mentioned MF at H6D 53.4mm x 40mm and GFX / Hasselblad-X with ca. 44mm x 33mm. But, as you might have seen on my channel, I also shoot film cameras: Mamiya RZ 67, Mamiya 7 II, Mamiya 645, Rolleiflex, etc. - so I am fully aware of the variations of MF film and sensors :)
@@mathphotographer yes, but I said this as to call the sub 6x4.5 sensor size a "full MF" is misleading, the full mf would be the 6x7 size!, not going panoramic, I think what fujifilm was intending it to mean was full format in comparison to their own xt camera (not to be confused with phase one's XT camera 🙂).
Hello! Does the jumping diaphragm work?
I did not notice any issues, this camera-lens combo works very well.
@@mathphotographer I have two fx 50s cameras (one at work and one at home). And the bouncing diaphragm does not work with hasselblad HC120 macro. I focus on the open aperture, then close the aperture to 16 or 22 and only then take a picture. It takes a long time to turn the wheel.
there is no cropped medium format term. 645 is cropped sensor if you consider 6*7 sensor.
Ha! There ist :) Full medium format (Hasselblad H6D and Phase One IQ4 is 53.4mm x 40mm) and cropped medium format is 44mm x 33mm (Hasselblad X and Fuji GFX).
@@mathphotographer Hi Math. There is also no “ full medium format” term in the photography world. It is your opinion and your sentences. Anything bigger than 35mm and smaller than large format is a medium format.Sorry
@@GKhanKutar That's ok and true too, thanks GKhan. But if Fuji can "invent" (see their website) freely a wrong notion of "large format" for their GFX sensors (which is complete nonsense since we all know what "large format" in film photography is and how far it is away from GFX sensors), then I feel liberated to use "cropped medium format" vs "full medium format" :) I hope you saw in the video that I explained what I mean by it and that I also clearly said that "this is the way I call it" ... in any case your comment is absolutely correct although I feel ok using my own terms as long as I clearly explain what I mean by it.
@@mathphotographer I agree with you about “ large format “ thing. It is just marketing but makes no sense in my opinion.
@@GKhanKutar Absolutely - it just creates confusion!
One more great video. You are a
Very good teacher. I just would
Like to know the price of the
Adaptator. And one more thing
When you shoot panoramic photo
What the bigest size you can
Print to keep a high quality?
Many thanks! The adapter cost around USD 600. On panorama shots, there is no firm limit ... the more frames you combine, the higher the resolution and the larger your print options.
Hey Math, I'm the freelance logo designer who reached out to you before, I wonder are you still interested for the logo redesign service?
Thanks Johnny, great offer but for the time being I am fine with my logo where I am. Maybe some time in the future I will consider an upgrade and get back to you.
Schoen, wieder schoen
Thanks :)
There is no such thing as full frame or crop medium format. Medium format encompasses all sensors and films that are larger than 35mm and smaller than 4x5 large format. If you call a 53.4 x 40mm full frame medium format, then what is a 6x6 cm or 6x9 cm medium format film camera?
Its a terminology I adopted for some time to distinguish the larger medium format sensor in the Hasselblad H6D and Phase One IQ4 (53.4x40) from the smaller medium format (44x33) in the Fuji GFX and Hasselblad X2D - constraining the discussion to digital sensors where you basically have these two medium formats plus the special size in the Leica S3. But you are absolutely right, generally speaking every sensor larger than 36x24 and every film larger than 35mm as long as they are smaller than large format are called "medium format". No issue with that :)
Which lens God
I fail to see why anyone would do this….
Ha! Fuji encourages us to shoot medium format Hasselblad lenses on Fuji GFX camera bodies, that's why they manufacture and offer this adapter. And the quality of images confirms that Fuji had the right intuition bringing this adapter to market :)
I do this because I already have an almost full set of H lenses. No additional investment other than the adapter.