Thank you so much. I am an apprentice mechanic at a body shop and do a lot of suspension work and alignments. I struggled for a while today trying to align a jeep wrangler and this helps a ton.
If you run the "win toe" function you DO NOT need to lock it. The computer has you level the steering wheel, then press ready which saves the desired position. If you turn the steering wheel a little it's not an issue because it saved the position you want anyway. You can lock it of you feel better but no need.
Get the steering wheel perfectly straight. But for a couple reasons (1 equalizing the pressures in the rack, 2 so your eyes can see what a straight/level steering wheel is better) I recommend doing the little side to side first then straighten.
@@paulkelley86 ok thanks I’ve been a little confused by that because it says to steer the wheels straight ahead. Just confusing wording I think. So straighten steering wheel, set toe, straighten steering wheel and lock, adjust drag link. Right?
It could be a couple things. A- something is bent, like inner tie rod or control arm. We only get limited adjustment and it won't compensate for something that needs to be replaced or frame pulled on alignment machine. B- the steering rack is not centered with the steering wheel. This one is harder to describe with words in a comment box. It is possible a rack or steering shaft was removed then reinstalled in a different off center location. A previous tech would have attempted to center steering wheel using tie rod adjustments rather than re doing the steering shaft to rack. A good tech would have marked the two and then lined the marks up on reinstall. Either way, if your tech can't figure it out, you should find one who can. You get what you pay for so consider who you hire. Someone who really knows this can save you more money than they are going to cost you. You don't want to muzzle the ox that is going to grind your grain, the ox wants to some too and you will get better results if they are not starving Find a better tech.
you are right, ive replace the steering rack last year, and went to get allignment after that.. it was fine until the second alignment after changing the tie rod.. i will for sure find another tech, i pretty sure he know whats up with it and dont wanna deal with it.. thankyouu @@paulkelley86
They do seize sometimes. Hopefully more heat around the outside of the part (female, not male part) using an oxygen acetylene torch. If still a no-go will have to replace the part. True whether a tie rod, track rod, eccentric, or other. Find out what it takes to replace and which specific parts and replace them. Unfortunately that's the worst case scenario.
"Can't be stuck if it's a liquid" is something I've heard a few times 😅 The key is to torch tf out of the adjustment points, get them glowing red hot. I haven't dealt with severe rust in a few years when I built my own Jeep, but at the very least, a MAP gas torch will do, you just gotta sit there for a bit on the tie rod end.
Sometimes I'll ask the customer to come and set it where they want it. Or they have a level tool to hang on the steering wheel spokes. It varies how the different drivers perceive what's straight or not. Sosmtimes they look at it compared to the dash or instrument cluster which can be sloped. Other times it's how it looks based on how they are sitting. No complaints on this one, if you are doing alignments, your attention to detail is good, if you are a customer..... well I would suggest you specifically request being able to set steering wheel position before they run win toe. Then you will be happy.
Thank you so much. I am an apprentice mechanic at a body shop and do a lot of suspension work and alignments. I struggled for a while today trying to align a jeep wrangler and this helps a ton.
Had it helped, you will be putting in your time at work learning then burning the midnight oil learning more at home. That's how we had to do it too.
Great job explaining. I’m on it!
I found the rotation opposite tho. When I turned in, the arm expanded 🤷🏻♂️. It is what it is.
Exact. Videos should give correct information, not the other way around!
Good video man. Hit all the necessary points
just the video I needed. I have a hunter Hawkeye elite at my shop and was always curious how to perform straight axle alignments. Thank you
Great vid - good sh*t. Thank you
Good luck if you can do it right
So toe first then drag link?
Do you have to lock the steering wheel when doing the drag link adjustment? No other video mentions doing that.
If you run the "win toe" function you DO NOT need to lock it. The computer has you level the steering wheel, then press ready which saves the desired position. If you turn the steering wheel a little it's not an issue because it saved the position you want anyway.
You can lock it of you feel better but no need.
So the first step it says to steer the wheels straight ahead, so does that mean move the wheels? Or straighten the steering wheel?
Get the steering wheel perfectly straight. But for a couple reasons (1 equalizing the pressures in the rack, 2 so your eyes can see what a straight/level steering wheel is better) I recommend doing the little side to side first then straighten.
@@paulkelley86 ok thanks I’ve been a little confused by that because it says to steer the wheels straight ahead. Just confusing wording I think. So straighten steering wheel, set toe, straighten steering wheel and lock, adjust drag link. Right?
my tech said my passenger side toe adjusment is max out on my accord, he couldnt figure it out whats wrong with it, do you know what should i check?
It could be a couple things.
A- something is bent, like inner tie rod or control arm. We only get limited adjustment and it won't compensate for something that needs to be replaced or frame pulled on alignment machine.
B- the steering rack is not centered with the steering wheel. This one is harder to describe with words in a comment box. It is possible a rack or steering shaft was removed then reinstalled in a different off center location. A previous tech would have attempted to center steering wheel using tie rod adjustments rather than re doing the steering shaft to rack. A good tech would have marked the two and then lined the marks up on reinstall.
Either way, if your tech can't figure it out, you should find one who can. You get what you pay for so consider who you hire.
Someone who really knows this can save you more money than they are going to cost you. You don't want to muzzle the ox that is going to grind your grain, the ox wants to some too and you will get better results if they are not starving
Find a better tech.
you are right, ive replace the steering rack last year, and went to get allignment after that.. it was fine until the second alignment after changing the tie rod.. i will for sure find another tech, i pretty sure he know whats up with it and dont wanna deal with it.. thankyouu @@paulkelley86
what if u can’t get the spin thing to actually spin no matter how much pb blaster or torching it
They do seize sometimes. Hopefully more heat around the outside of the part (female, not male part) using an oxygen acetylene torch. If still a no-go will have to replace the part. True whether a tie rod, track rod, eccentric, or other. Find out what it takes to replace and which specific parts and replace them. Unfortunately that's the worst case scenario.
"Can't be stuck if it's a liquid" is something I've heard a few times 😅
The key is to torch tf out of the adjustment points, get them glowing red hot. I haven't dealt with severe rust in a few years when I built my own Jeep, but at the very least, a MAP gas torch will do, you just gotta sit there for a bit on the tie rod end.
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@@paulkelley86 ok gracias
Still looked left to me.
Sometimes I'll ask the customer to come and set it where they want it. Or they have a level tool to hang on the steering wheel spokes.
It varies how the different drivers perceive what's straight or not. Sosmtimes they look at it compared to the dash or instrument cluster which can be sloped. Other times it's how it looks based on how they are sitting.
No complaints on this one, if you are doing alignments, your attention to detail is good, if you are a customer..... well I would suggest you specifically request being able to set steering wheel position before they run win toe. Then you will be happy.