Nick Kyrgios Tennis Serve Review- Should You Copy This Serve?
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In this video, John Craig (A.K., The Serve Builder) presents a review of the Nick Kyrgios serve. John explains the key differences from Nick's serve to most players on tour, and also presents the key fundamentals that Nick does so well!
Nick Kyrgios Tennis Serve Review- Should You Copy This Serve?
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Great analysis John. I think Kyrgios will have one of the greatests serves of all time. And I think you'll see him clock a 150mph+ bomb at some point too.
I agree! Thanks Grant!
Awesome content John, thanks for satisfying my request on Kyrgios' serve! What I know from my experience as a former volleyball mid blocker is that a ball is hit much much easier when it has almost zero speed, BUT it is hard to hit it with zero speed. So, I totally agree that it takes a lot of talent and timing to toss and have a swift motion rhythm in order to hit the ball almost at the apex. This helps a lot with both disguise about where you're aiming and, of course, accuracy because of the very low ball speed at the moment of contact.
Hi Dennis, Glad I was able to get the video up. Lots of interest in Kyrgios at the moment. I practiced with another top player who had a similar serve to Kyrgios. I was Kevin Curren's sparring partner when he played a tournament at our club back in 1987...two years after he made the Wimbledon final vs. Becker. He Aced Jimmy Connors 33 times in the qtr finals in 85. I could rally with him until he started serving...then it was lights out! Best, John
Recreational players often have a hitch or early deceleration in their swing waiting for the ball to come down in the high toss. In the low toss this is prevented by the need for rapid racket acceleration in order for the stroke to "keep up" with a low toss. That's partly where Nicks velocity comes from. Also the low toss is easier to place precisely in space because errors in direction of the toss are magnified by a high toss.
There are certainly arguments to support a high or low toss… There are good reasons for each, and there are problems with each, but in my 40+ years experience coaching and developing players, a higher toss consistently produces better results. And if you look at the pros and high-performance players, more have higher tosses than tosses like Nick Kyrgios. Best, John
My serve is very similar to Nick’s 😎, great analysis
Thank you, Best, John
@@PerformancePlusTennis Hi John, I'm actually currently training with Nick Kyrgios former hitting partner, so this video definitely helps in understanding his low toss and racquet drop 😎
@@soccaboy2844 That's awesome! Keep me updated on your training! Best, John
John, I hear a lot of emphasis on “shoulder-over-shoulder”, from a variety of coaches. Do you agree with this emphasis? If so, does a higher toss tend to facilitate shoulder over shoulder? More difficult to achieve perhaps, with a lower toss, unless you’re very talented like Kyrgios?
Hi Ron, I do agree that "shoulder-over-shoulder" is an important movement in the serve. Not only to create power, but to be in the ideal position to transfer the power into the playing arm (long axis rotation into contact). And yes, you see more higher tosses than low tosses like Kyrgios to achieve this. Best, John
Do you want to comment on the way he sets the wrist of his hitting arm?
At one point in his serve? The start? Thanks, John
Very straight arm on the toss for a consistent toss and some but not much pronation past contact. Similar to Pliskova’s flat serve wrt to pronation. Agree that timing like that is difficult for mortals.
Thanks Mike for your comments and contribution to the video discussion. Best, John
The videos would seem to disagree with "not much pronation past contact." Just took a look several times specifically looking for pronation and I don't think his arm can pronate much more than it does in the video. It clearly pronates quite a bit after contact, unless I'm just seeing what I's seeing wrong... "some but not much" is pretty vague. None (0) Some?(3-4) Some, but not much (5) Much?(6-8) Exaggerated to the point of counter-productive?(9-10) Anyway, my opinion is that he has pronation that is obvious and falls within what is needed for a good-great serve. Hard to know if it is 'just' some or 'not much' or whatever, but... whatever.
@@reasonsreasonably look at the first serve shown in slo mo. Kyrgios sometimes does and sometimes doesn’t pronate much past contact. Pliskova on the other hand virtually never pronates past contact.
@marktace1 I'm not suggesting that he doesn't vary the amount of pronation. When I serve out wide I put some extra pronation after contact because the angle I'm hitting from makes the contact point more to the right... uggh mm hard to explain but basically to disguise my shot I guess I'm hitting it at an angle that would make it appear I put extra pronation, which is all to say that everyone is different and uses different amounts of contact and pronation after contact doesn't tell all of the story. Down the T, I might use less pronation on my flat serve. I dunno what to say. From the vids, he varies his pronation for whatever reason but it isn't like he doesn't usually have the usual amount of pronation that any other make pro uses.
Cheers
Does he use hammer grip??
Yes hi does use a Hammer / Continental Grip! Thanks, John
No you shouldn't copy anyone in particular, as the serve has to be in line with your physiology, so you maximise your potential. There are some universal basics and you can learn some things from other good servers but never copy anyone!
Hi and thanks for your feedback and contribution to the video. Copy? No? Learn from? Yes. I totally agree, we all have a natural style, and should not copy the style of others. But we should isolate the key fundamentals that are present in most great serves, and work to build them into our serves. Thank you again, John
so much of talent for no grand slam someone put some sense into this guys head.. he is a genius atleast should have won 10 grand slams and if determined could have become one of the GOATs of the game.. he is more skilled than nadal djokovic and equal to federer in all the trick shots.. nadal and djokovic dont play elegant tennis they play robotic tennis..
It takes more than talent as we know. Kyrgios is indeed full of natural ability and talent. However, as both Djokovic and Nadal proved, commitment is the prevailing factor in becoming a champion. Best, John
What grip does he use?
Hi, Nick uses the Continental Grip for his serve. Best, John
mkay?
The next tutorial should be, 'what Kyrgios has done NOT to achieve any greater than a 500 series win after being on tour for 9 years'.
There's an ex-Australian 'big serve' player by the name of Mark Philippoussis. His serve was just as lethal, but unlike Kyrgios, Philippoussis got to his first GS final in just 4 years after turning pro (also made it to the Wimbledon final in 2003), he won a Masters (something Kyrgios has failed to do), achieved a career high ranking within the top 10 (something Kyrgios has failed to do), won the Queens tournament on grass (Kyrgios is supposed to be a great grass court player but so far has failed to win a tournament on grass) ... and, I could go on and on about the facts and failures of Kyrgios.
It makes me laugh how people think Kyrgios is so great and he's such a talented player, but there's no REAL evidence to suggest this and in my opinion (after playing and watching tennis since the late 70's), Kyrgios is no more talented than the other young 'top crop' on the circuit today.
Thanks for your comments and perspective on Nick Kyrgios. Most agree his skills and ability far exceed his results. He simply doesn't care enough about winning to make the commitments to growing as a player to achieve his potential. That is most likely why the Australian greats don't support him...in their minds he is a wasted talent. Most of us would love to be in his position, and have the opportunity to achieve our full potential and win ATP tournaments. Most of the time Nick doesn't care. Perhaps it's a fear of losing. When he does care, (like in the final) he can't cope with the pressure, so he goes off on his tangents. If he really cared, he would take steps to improve his mental game, and get a coach who would establish discipline, both in practice and training, along with match play tactics and game plans. But it isn't going to happen. We heard his reply when asked if getting to the final made him hungry for more...best, John
@@PerformancePlusTennis "Perhaps it's a fear of losing"
- Bingo, you've hit it on the head. That's definitely a key factor. Having worked in the field of 'behaviour' for many years and observing Kyrgios' attitude towards 'winning', I'd go as far to say that he wants to lose or feels better losing, this way he can always come up with an excuse which makes people sympathise with him. This continues to fuel this pathetic debate that 'he could have been the best, if it hadn't of been for ....".
@@thepsychologist8159 Thanks. These are very deep issues that we may never know...you know the layers that need to be unraveled. Me? I am not a Psychologist, but I do know the fear of losing keeps many from succeeding. Thanks for your insight.
@@PerformancePlusTennis "but I do know the fear of losing keeps many from succeeding"
- A very interesting thing you say. I"m a distance runner now (at the age of 52), half-marathon/marathon, and I was having a conversation with a casual runner the other day who's never competed in an event (he's aiming for a 5km). I asked him "so when are you going to do your first 5km"? as he's been training now for about a year. The response was "probably never". I asked "why"? The response was "I have a fear of failure". Which I responded with "if you've never attempted this before, why do you have a fear of failure"? Now, I could get this if it was someone in the current generation, because they do seem to be a little precious, but of my generation? I was a astounded when I heard this response. Of course, I know the fundamental reasons why people have these thoughts across any age, but it still takes me back every time I hear it especially when they haven't attempted the activity before. Which my advice is always, "you've just got to get out there and do it, once you do, you'll do it again and again or if you don't, at least you can be satisified knowing you tried".
@The Psychologist, Kyrgios is outrageosuly talented and he should of achieved way more in the game than he's done so far.
But you and John hit it on the head. He's not been professional and 100% commited to tennis. Tennis has mostly been a part time hobby/slash great earner for him up until now. However, I think we might see Kyrgios' full potential now as he seems more commited and focused.
Secondly I think fear of losing has halted his progress. When he fears losing, he stops trying or has checked out in the match.
But I think we might see Kyrgios' true potential moving forwards now as he has a more professional approach, greater maturity and renewed vigour for the game.