thing is.. if you bought intel at 12th gen you can still buy intel at 14th gen. Thats what decide what to buy and upgrade here. The i5 x600k is AWESOME at 13-14th gen. much better then AMD's tbh (with optimization OC etc) starforge pc's runs alot of riggs with that and you can bust oout alot of performance. Watch how much more it utilze that 4090 in % as well. with opt you can utilize it even more. imo Intel is alot more worth then AMD still, only the 7800*3d is in another league. AND what MB you already have decides'---
@@mattiashakansson3210 The Ryzen 7800X3D is the best CPU for gaming and you will be able to buy the 9800X3D in the future while keeping the same motherboard. The Intel 14th gen is a flop because it's basically the 13th gen. i5 14600K is noticeably more expensive than the 7600X and you won't be able to upgrade. For gaming Intel makes no sense
@@Pawcio2115 It really comes down to what you sitting on currently. the I5 13600k and 14600k is VERY good for gaming. no cap. the 14th gen as you say has not much more to offer more then ALOt faster memory support. so 7000 ddr5 is possible. Watch benchmarks in games and you see that its not that far behind as you think. the am5 platfor is not that great as the 5800x*3d was compared to its competition tbh.. This AMD CPU in this video barely push that GPU . barely tickes it. bottleneck hard.,
Is it only me that notices the huge discrepancies in the videos? E.g. in FS2020 the same CPU perform completely different and the lower tier are even better: 14600k (this video): 105 FPS 14600k (in comparsion with 13700): 97 FPS 14700k (in comparsion with 13900k): 131 FPS 13900k (same video): 131 FPS 14900k (in comparsion with 7800x3d): 79 FPS 7800x3d (same video): 90 FPS
In the benchmark for the 14900k vs 7800x3d, he flew over New York which is both gpu and cpu intensive. This benchmark for FS2020 had a relatively flat area. For the 14700k vs 13900k, it's a mountain area. That's where the inconsistency is coming from, just different areas the dude was flying in.
some games are sponsored by amd and they are better optimized for amd cpus most of them also dont have dlss support, just amd’s cheap tactics if you wanna know real performance difference then compare their cinebench/ geekbench scores
Still Intel did good with their lga1700, they gave 3 years of support 12th, 13th and 14th gen. Though 14th gen is kind of over locked verison of 13th gen apart from 14700k
The difference between these two cpus is not related to gaming but video editing etc. For that the 14600k is much better. So for those who just game either is fine but if you use your pc for productivity too it would be worth going for the Intel chip.
Ryzen processors don't get much more performance maybe 3% more from overclocking. If you overclock the 14600k you can push it to 5.7ghz without touching the voltages which will give you an extra 15 fps maybe more on some games.
@@devonaokiz you may think it's over rated but most see it as free performance. I pushed my 14600k to over 6ghz which got it to perform similarly to processors twice its price.
Actually, Starfield is optimized for Intel processors. In the video card market, things are even worse for Intel, and AMD video cards for Starfield are more preferable than Nvidia, but this does not mean that the game is optimized for AMD.
@@qwertyuseradmin Starfield patch 1.8.83 bumps Nvidia performance across the board even with DLSS disabled, Daniel Owens noted a 29% boost without DLSS on a 4060 Ti running 1440P Ultra settings vs. the previous Starfield version.
@@The2029isComing older AMD CPU ? What is the new AMD CPU and where i can buy ? ^^ If you say with the argument the newest will win then thats a never ending story. ^^
Really interesting to see that 14600k have less usage but for a higher power to get some FPS more. I think that it still a good value even if compared to upgrade possibility on AMD side you just cannot challenge it.
Cpu usage is the same, intel has more cores (e cores) thats why "overall" cpu usage looks different, but game use same core count for both amd and intel for example 8 threads is used but since intel has more overall cores in the segment so avg % is lower and that 8 cores work for around 100% and rest is just "resting" with 0% :D
@@OmnianMIU What does the 5% refer to? You're throwing random numbers around here. You've obviously never heard of Framepace, 1% FPS and frametime! What do productive applications such as AutoCAD have to do with gaming? I think you're on the wrong channel here
The 14600k actually seems like a very good competitor for the Ryzen 7600X/7700X, but you also have to take into account that it can potentially need 80% more power than the AMD counterpart. So even comparing to 7700X, the total price is actually higher. Considering its TDP, it might be a necessity for a better cooling system too. Still a good buy though.
@@expert8665 i5 14600k can go up to 80 more watts at max efficiency compared to same tier Ryzens, resulting in around 20 more dollars per year, depending on where you live and how much you use your computer. Yes, I know it doesn't seem that substantial, but you could look at it as getting a guaranteed 50 to 100 free dollars over the next 3 or 4 or 5 years. Meaning that instead of that Intel CPU you could've ended up with an arguably much better Ryzen 7800X3D and still have some money saved. I just find it weird how people never take the cost of electricity into account when buying a new CPU, especially a budget one. And modern AMD processors are NOT hotter than Intel's. I'd like you to show me atleast one test where that was the case, because so far every single one I've seen in the last two years are either tied or with the exact opposite conclusion. If anything there are a lot of posts/articles about Intel chips running hot rn.
yeah, it consumes more power if you're running a poor man's rendering farm. 15w while gaming is a drop in the bucket. Also, if someone is gaming 8 hours each day, they prob don't have a job and they're not paying the power bill to begin with.
@@m8x425 Be it 15 more average watt usage, it's still gonna stack up over a period of time. When in the near future you're gonna think to yourself "damn, I could've paid those 30 dollars more for a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and still have solid option for upgrade, without needing to spend nearly 300 pointless dollars for a new motherboard". Now, if you buy Ryzen 5 7600X for now, you have 100 + 300 = 400 dollars saved. If you invest those 400 dollars into a better GPU in the future, you're gonna end up with ~50 more FPS instead of those measly ~15 shown in the video. So for the long term AMD's options are just better. 14600k is still a good option depending on how often you change PC parts, don't get me wrong, but for me personally AMD still has a solid edge over Intel with its 7800X3D option. The rest of the AMD CPU's are a bit slower, but it's obviously not surprising given they are over a whole year older. Even though they're slower, the possibility for a way cheaper upgrade in the future is just something most people should be taking into account. And saying stuff like "someone who plays games a lot probably doesn't have a job" is just a stupid point to make. It's a wide generalization and even assuming your argument was true, it would in no way change the fact that someone has to pay those extra bucks for electricity.
There's no reason to lock RAM to the same speed. Get a super high binned kit that is validated for both, let the memory controllers on each processor get it as fast as it can go, and then compare. I think Intel might be able to run the same RAM faster.
while that is true, the amd system usually profits more from tightening subtimings than the intel part because of the way their respective memory controllers work. but yes, i agree that the best test would be to max out both mem controllers on each platform for a fair test.
The 14600 gets more out of the graphics and is more relaxed in its own ability to work. It would even be useful to compare it to a processor of even a higher class like the Ryzen 7, just out of curiosity.
Wouldn't call any of them poison, but both of these CPU's will need to be upgraded sooner or later, meaning that the AMD upgrade is gonna be 300 dollars cheaper. That's a lot of money that personally would be better spent on a better GPU.
Depends on the region. Where I live its 50% more money (220€ vs 330€) for 10% more in game performance + 50% more productivity performance not counting energy consumption and platform upgradebility of course
Yes, but for gaming any of this CPU will last a very long time, by the time they aren't enough anymore it might be better to sell the whole pc and buy a new one, or one might have lost interest in video gaming, maybe temporarily. Imagine you have an am4 system with a Ryzen 1600 with 8 GB of ram and you want to upgrade, now you could buy a 5700x3d and new ram, and maybe a new cooler, with the risk of the power supply or the motherboard or the SSD failing, and with your GPU working on pcie 3.0, or you could sell it and buy a 7600 with a cheap motherboard and new ram, the cooler would be included, and once you activate pbo you'll have better performances than with the 5700x3d. It might be slightly more expensive even after the selling of your old pc but it's much more reliable and a bit faster.
Yes, because of AM5 longevity even after 3 years, the MB will support modern high-end CPUs. So, there will be no need to replace the entire PC. If any AM6 comes the new processors for the AM5 will still enter the market making it all even better.
In real life, you will NEVER have such cases. 1080p, Ultra, RT-max, cheapest CPU paired with RTX 4090. These two CPUs have a 2-3% difference. Only because Intel needs twice the power.
Intel fanboys: 14600K better cuz it more FPS, and no one upgrade CPU AMD fanboys: 7600X better cuz it uses 10W less power and cheap!!! Only chads realize that both CPUs are excellent for their intended applications - the 7600X for games, and the 14600K for general purpose/productivity.
The 14600k is better but its more expensive , and its also on a motherboard chipset that will be replaced next generation. So question really is , do you go for better performance or you accept the Ryzen with marginally lower performance so you could upgrade in future with the same motherboard? Thats up to you
So basically either go for small performance boost with Intel but you will have to switch motherboard if you want to upgrade to Intel 15th Gen later down the line. Or go AMD which is slightly less performance but has an upgrade path where you don't need to change motherboard.
@@kenos6939 that really does not matter to me as I upgrade every 4-5 years sometimes even more. I can still reuse my ddr4 and just buy a b760 then 14600k or 14700 (depending on budget) and im done.
@@justanobody4983 In 5 yrs the Ryzen 5 of that time will be more powerful than 14700k, more efficient, cheaper too and available as an upgrade for people with current AM5 motherboards without needing to replace them, you will literally save money with AMD but if you wanna lock yourself with that Intel path which is already obsolete and more expensive in the long run then go right ahead, its your money🤷♂️
Thank you for the video. AMD is the best in terms "value-for-money". And 7600X shows that more than any other CPU. I can compare 13900K + 4080 GPU and 7600X + 4070ti GPU, which I´ve been using last months. That Intel setup needed much more cooling and the purchase (market) price was nearly double of the AMD setup. With 7600X, you can use some good air cooling, and save even more money. The difference in power is not that huge, especially while gaming. For now, I would consider 7600X and 7500F. I think that theese two are the best CPU for gaming, considering purchase price. If you compare high end CPUs, Intel is still the way to go. 14900 compared to 7950 offers much better single thread power and the price is very similar.
thing is.. if you bought intel at 12th gen you can still buy intel at 14th gen. Thats what decide what to buy and upgrade here. The i5 x600k is AWESOME at 13-14th gen. much better then AMD's tbh (with optimization OC etc) starforge pc's runs alot of riggs with that and you can bust oout alot of performance. Watch how much more it utilze that 4090 in % as well. with opt you can utilize it even more. What current MB you sit on decides what to upgrade atm. Intel did good with 3 gen support if you bought the 12th gen MB's.. thats alot tbh
Its really not worth it too spend that extra 150 dollars for i5 14600k. In Canada the i5 14600k is 439 dollars while 7600x is 309 dollars. I think i could even get away with getting ryzen 7600 and I'll be it.
Impressive its look like intel coming back to the game good to see competition coming back to market or Who is stoping amd to become intel with there bs650 over priced crap mob
Cry why? Because 50$/16% more expencive cpu deliver 2-6% more fps? 😂 AMD fanboys are actually chillin and waiting for next intel fail in 2024, as expected😪.
7600x is a lot cheaper in eu, 200 Vs 300, if you're building from scratch and use it just for gaming is a no brainer. Different if you're upgrading from 12600k.
The higher GPU Utilisation is a good thing because it means that the CPU is able to provide a higher workload for the GPU. So most basically the whole package is faster. Generally in a gamingPC the GPU will be more utalized than the CPU and a really fast GPU can only bring its full potential using an adequate/suitable CPU. Whats really interesting in benchmarks like this is the way the package performs: In most cases as you can see here the CPUs are like between 20% and 70% usage and the GPU is far away from its limits, too. What you see here is that the CPU-Cores are not fully utilized not even the testet Hexacores (Yep, the 14600 has it's eight additional efficiancy-cores but they will most likely not be used for the workload of modern games anyway). So for example if a game only utilizes 2 out of 6 cores (Or 4/12 threads, whatever) it simply utilizes at most 33% of what the CPU is capable off. This is a total theoretic szenario because in reality you wouldn't use a RTX4090 @1080p and it will be 100% used @4k in most basically all modern games but it shows pretty good that a CPU no matter how much cores it has is only as capable as the software is able to utalize the amount of cores. But because of this in most games a hexcore is totally fine and will be for some more time.
@@Phan1hs since when? 14600K demolishes 7600X in every task, and even beats it in a lot of games. 7600X is good if you want to only game and do nothing else dueto its lower price point, but the 14600K is a no brainer for general purpose or workloads
Also its not a bad idea to pair up that CPU and GPU combo if you play at 1440p or 4K with RTX on. Especially since games are so unoptimized on the GPU end.
it depends. If you leave it on by default (all top brand like Asus, Lenovo, Acer, HP...), the temp expected should be 80°c to 92°c. If you switch to high performance mode (which i don't recommend), the temp goes a little bit higher, but you can lower it down by tune the fan speed to max (avoid doing this at night if you don't want to wake your parents up). Just remember to create a small gap between your laptop and the table to make sure your laptop air vent works properly.
Well, if he has weak gpu or plays in 4k it shouldnt matter much, but indeed 14600k has a great performance especially comparing to old cpus, sadly it consumes a lot of power as well as overheats with a dead platform on top of that..
@@raze618 if you look at the c.pwr stats & cpu temps in these tests the 14600K isn't consuming much more power than 7600X and the 14600K is running cooler.
If you only game 60hz and with some old gpu that is true, but for some people who want to enjoy rt, or fps games at 360hz you really need something faster that won't drop 1% fps to below 100fps xd
even though the i 5 has better performance id get the 7600x for better upgradeability later on when they release the 8000 series as even though the 7600x is older than the i5 itrs shocking how a new gen processor is on the same level of the year old cpu
Games :
Hitman 3 - 0:06 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesHitman3
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 1:00 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Forza Horizon 5 - 2:12 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
Hogwarts Legacy - 3:22 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
Starfield - 4:23
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 5:17 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
The Last of Us Part I - 6:14
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 - 7:08 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20
Horizon Zero Dawn - 8:00 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesH0D
The Witcher 3 - 8:53 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher
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remember, kids: the cpu isnt giving you more fps. the cpu is allowing more % of your 4090 to be used, i.e. less bottleneck :D
AKA more performance ... more FPS
Technically that's what givin you fps
Why do you think a higher percentage of the GPU is being utilized? Oh wait, the CPU is preparing more frames for the GPU.
That might change with direct storage in near future but now yes CPU is important to unpack all the game data
not exactly 🙃
This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thx for the video.
thing is.. if you bought intel at 12th gen you can still buy intel at 14th gen. Thats what decide what to buy and upgrade here.
The i5 x600k is AWESOME at 13-14th gen. much better then AMD's tbh (with optimization OC etc) starforge pc's runs alot of riggs with that and you can bust oout alot of performance.
Watch how much more it utilze that 4090 in % as well. with opt you can utilize it even more.
imo Intel is alot more worth then AMD still, only the 7800*3d is in another league. AND what MB you already have decides'---
@@mattiashakansson3210 The Ryzen 7800X3D is the best CPU for gaming and you will be able to buy the 9800X3D in the future while keeping the same motherboard. The Intel 14th gen is a flop because it's basically the 13th gen. i5 14600K is noticeably more expensive than the 7600X and you won't be able to upgrade. For gaming Intel makes no sense
@@Pawcio2115
It really comes down to what you sitting on currently. the I5 13600k and 14600k is VERY good for gaming. no cap. the 14th gen as you say has not much more to offer more then ALOt faster memory support. so 7000 ddr5 is possible.
Watch benchmarks in games and you see that its not that far behind as you think. the am5 platfor is not that great as the 5800x*3d was compared to its competition tbh..
This AMD CPU in this video barely push that GPU . barely tickes it. bottleneck hard.,
Is it only me that notices the huge discrepancies in the videos?
E.g. in FS2020 the same CPU perform completely different and the lower tier are even better:
14600k (this video): 105 FPS
14600k (in comparsion with 13700): 97 FPS
14700k (in comparsion with 13900k): 131 FPS
13900k (same video): 131 FPS
14900k (in comparsion with 7800x3d): 79 FPS
7800x3d (same video): 90 FPS
For real bro, i was thinkin the same thing. Maybe dif graphic settings ?
In the benchmark for the 14900k vs 7800x3d, he flew over New York which is both gpu and cpu intensive. This benchmark for FS2020 had a relatively flat area. For the 14700k vs 13900k, it's a mountain area. That's where the inconsistency is coming from, just different areas the dude was flying in.
some games are sponsored by amd and they are better optimized for amd cpus most of them also dont have dlss support, just amd’s cheap tactics
if you wanna know real performance difference then compare their cinebench/ geekbench scores
@@hueman69420 jajaaj
@@hueman69420 Everyone I think we found userbenchmark here
For example, in Serbia 7600X is 130-150 euros cheaper than 14600K 🙄... And, same story abouth MB, AMD MB is noticeably cheaper than Intels MB 😕...
and you'll be able to upgrade the CPU down the line on the AMD side
@@Maitreya3001 Exactly ☺...I have 1600AF, 2700X, 5600X and 7600X and many generations of MB...For Intel it's mental noun 🤷
Still Intel did good with their lga1700, they gave 3 years of support 12th, 13th and 14th gen. Though 14th gen is kind of over locked verison of 13th gen apart from 14700k
@@SrdjanPoznanovic amd mb cheaper than z690? what
@@artur9782 same or cheaper 🙄...
The difference between these two cpus is not related to gaming but video editing etc. For that the 14600k is much better. So for those who just game either is fine but if you use your pc for productivity too it would be worth going for the Intel chip.
Ryzen processors don't get much more performance maybe 3% more from overclocking. If you overclock the 14600k you can push it to 5.7ghz without touching the voltages which will give you an extra 15 fps maybe more on some games.
@@moc5661yea and what will the power consumption be? Overclocking is overrated
@@devonaokiz you may think it's over rated but most see it as free performance. I pushed my 14600k to over 6ghz which got it to perform similarly to processors twice its price.
@@moc5661 idk maybe I'm a bit behind, I just remember overclocking my i5 4670k and my room would turn into a sauna. what are your temps?
@@devonaokizthat's just relative from person to person people with cheaper electricity will benifit out of it it's not over rated
its funny to see the "next gen" game Starfield "optimzed for AMD" runs better on Intel 🤣🤣🤣
Actually, Starfield is optimized for Intel processors. In the video card market, things are even worse for Intel, and AMD video cards for Starfield are more preferable than Nvidia, but this does not mean that the game is optimized for AMD.
@@qwertyuseradmin Starfield patch 1.8.83 bumps Nvidia performance across the board even with DLSS disabled, Daniel Owens noted a 29% boost without DLSS on a 4060 Ti running 1440P Ultra settings vs. the previous Starfield version.
How is a 100 dollars cheaper and a whole year older CPU performing worse in any way surprising?
@@jasonroberts8416 Yeah now Nvidia is faster than AMD in starfield. seems like AMD did not provide any more money for their starfield sponsorship.
@@The2029isComing older AMD CPU ? What is the new AMD CPU and where i can buy ? ^^ If you say with the argument the newest will win then thats a never ending story. ^^
Really interesting to see that 14600k have less usage but for a higher power to get some FPS more.
I think that it still a good value even if compared to upgrade possibility on AMD side you just cannot challenge it.
Cpu usage is the same, intel has more cores (e cores) thats why "overall" cpu usage looks different, but game use same core count for both amd and intel for example 8 threads is used but since intel has more overall cores in the segment so avg % is lower and that 8 cores work for around 100% and rest is just "resting" with 0% :D
An overall win for Intel my friend. Runs cooler, less utilization, more fps and tons of cores. :)
CPU usage less cuz it has more cores. One of the reasons why the 14600K demolishes the 7600X in productivity.
7800X3D > ALL
For 5% fps gain and big lose in productivity but yes
@@OmnianMIU What does the 5% refer to? You're throwing random numbers around here. You've obviously never heard of Framepace, 1% FPS and frametime! What do productive applications such as AutoCAD have to do with gaming? I think you're on the wrong channel here
@@clubsound1483and I think you’re on the wrong video
go sleep, lay down again@@wr8079
@@clubsound1483 🤦🏻♂️ classic fanboy AMDumb be like:
🤡
sitting with my 7800X3D, eating popcorn and watching people fight over these processors.
ruclips.net/video/RWRVTmT6EoM/видео.html
I'm sitting here happy with my 5700x
its bcs theyre competitive but really doesnt matter if youre gaming 75hz
The 14600k actually seems like a very good competitor for the Ryzen 7600X/7700X, but you also have to take into account that it can potentially need 80% more power than the AMD counterpart. So even comparing to 7700X, the total price is actually higher. Considering its TDP, it might be a necessity for a better cooling system too. Still a good buy though.
I bought AMD, mainly for the upgrade path to Ryzen 9000 series.
AMD's ihs isn't good. They pull fewer watts and are still hotter. Also, 40 more wats is less than $10 difference a year.
@@expert8665 i5 14600k can go up to 80 more watts at max efficiency compared to same tier Ryzens, resulting in around 20 more dollars per year, depending on where you live and how much you use your computer.
Yes, I know it doesn't seem that substantial, but you could look at it as getting a guaranteed 50 to 100 free dollars over the next 3 or 4 or 5 years. Meaning that instead of that Intel CPU you could've ended up with an arguably much better Ryzen 7800X3D and still have some money saved.
I just find it weird how people never take the cost of electricity into account when buying a new CPU, especially a budget one.
And modern AMD processors are NOT hotter than Intel's. I'd like you to show me atleast one test where that was the case, because so far every single one I've seen in the last two years are either tied or with the exact opposite conclusion. If anything there are a lot of posts/articles about Intel chips running hot rn.
yeah, it consumes more power if you're running a poor man's rendering farm. 15w while gaming is a drop in the bucket.
Also, if someone is gaming 8 hours each day, they prob don't have a job and they're not paying the power bill to begin with.
@@m8x425 Be it 15 more average watt usage, it's still gonna stack up over a period of time. When in the near future you're gonna think to yourself "damn, I could've paid those 30 dollars more for a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and still have solid option for upgrade, without needing to spend nearly 300 pointless dollars for a new motherboard". Now, if you buy Ryzen 5 7600X for now, you have 100 + 300 = 400 dollars saved. If you invest those 400 dollars into a better GPU in the future, you're gonna end up with ~50 more FPS instead of those measly ~15 shown in the video. So for the long term AMD's options are just better.
14600k is still a good option depending on how often you change PC parts, don't get me wrong, but for me personally AMD still has a solid edge over Intel with its 7800X3D option. The rest of the AMD CPU's are a bit slower, but it's obviously not surprising given they are over a whole year older. Even though they're slower, the possibility for a way cheaper upgrade in the future is just something most people should be taking into account.
And saying stuff like "someone who plays games a lot probably doesn't have a job" is just a stupid point to make. It's a wide generalization and even assuming your argument was true, it would in no way change the fact that someone has to pay those extra bucks for electricity.
There's no reason to lock RAM to the same speed. Get a super high binned kit that is validated for both, let the memory controllers on each processor get it as fast as it can go, and then compare. I think Intel might be able to run the same RAM faster.
while that is true, the amd system usually profits more from tightening subtimings than the intel part because of the way their respective memory controllers work. but yes, i agree that the best test would be to max out both mem controllers on each platform for a fair test.
@@Fidelius1992 what? intel is even more sensitive to subtimings.
@@HeartOfAdel watch hwunboxed vid on memory scaling 1700 vs am5
Still rocking with Ryzen 5600x rtx 2060 gaming like a Boss 😎
Alan Wake 2: 35-40 fps, low settings, 1080 😂
@@chameechkamaybe he like to play whatever games he like to play?
Your setup still good enjoy😊
@@chameechka Alan Wake 2 is just a boring tech demo game 😪
@@chameechka Alan Wake isn't the only game available for PC right!
The 14600 gets more out of the graphics and is more relaxed in its own ability to work. It would even be useful to compare it to a processor of even a higher class like the Ryzen 7, just out of curiosity.
I agree. The 14600k runs much cooler than 7600x and is more relaxed less utilization and more fps. Power draw isn't even that far of diff.
7600x is 100$ cheaper and has better platform support. But you get less cores. Pick your poison.
Unless you're getting a 4090, or maybe a 4080/7900xtx level GPU performance, the 7600x is prob the better pick due to longer platform longevity.
Wouldn't call any of them poison, but both of these CPU's will need to be upgraded sooner or later, meaning that the AMD upgrade is gonna be 300 dollars cheaper. That's a lot of money that personally would be better spent on a better GPU.
at 14600k price the only way to go is 7800x3d
14600 к лучше !
15% in price for average 10% performance
And 50% faster in work tasks
Depends on the region.
Where I live its 50% more money (220€ vs 330€) for 10% more in game performance + 50% more productivity performance not counting energy consumption and platform upgradebility of course
please please please make a video of 7700x vs 14600k gaming benchmark.
Well that comparison wouldnt really make sense you would want the 14700 because they have the same number of cores
Doesn't AM5 have a much better support for longer term and much better CPUs in long term, for example 7800X3D, or 9800X3D and so on?
Yes, but for gaming any of this CPU will last a very long time, by the time they aren't enough anymore it might be better to sell the whole pc and buy a new one, or one might have lost interest in video gaming, maybe temporarily.
Imagine you have an am4 system with a Ryzen 1600 with 8 GB of ram and you want to upgrade, now you could buy a 5700x3d and new ram, and maybe a new cooler, with the risk of the power supply or the motherboard or the SSD failing, and with your GPU working on pcie 3.0, or you could sell it and buy a 7600 with a cheap motherboard and new ram, the cooler would be included, and once you activate pbo you'll have better performances than with the 5700x3d. It might be slightly more expensive even after the selling of your old pc but it's much more reliable and a bit faster.
Yes, because of AM5 longevity even after 3 years, the MB will support modern high-end CPUs. So, there will be no need to replace the entire PC. If any AM6 comes the new processors for the AM5 will still enter the market making it all even better.
This is way more accurate than when people just compare the 7600x with a 14400F, I mean, it is unfair to do that comparison.
In real life, you will NEVER have such cases. 1080p, Ultra, RT-max, cheapest CPU paired with RTX 4090. These two CPUs have a 2-3% difference. Only because Intel needs twice the power.
Intel fanboys: 14600K better cuz it more FPS, and no one upgrade CPU
AMD fanboys: 7600X better cuz it uses 10W less power and cheap!!!
Only chads realize that both CPUs are excellent for their intended applications - the 7600X for games, and the 14600K for general purpose/productivity.
But if you compare 5 7600x with 4070 super and 14600k with 4070 super difference world be not able to see
Exactly but Intel fanboys need to justify high prices of CPU and MB, high power usage, high temps, and expensive cooling solutions.
I don't even know what's better
That one what gives you more fps but if you care about price that one what gives good fps and lower price
The 14600k is better but its more expensive , and its also on a motherboard chipset that will be replaced next generation.
So question really is , do you go for better performance or you accept the Ryzen with marginally lower performance so you could upgrade in future with the same motherboard? Thats up to you
@@plopolip01 Will someone upgrade after buying 14 th gen i5?
@@anti-lgbt0743 you wont, guaranteed youll be pleased w 14600k
So basically either go for small performance boost with Intel but you will have to switch motherboard if you want to upgrade to Intel 15th Gen later down the line. Or go AMD which is slightly less performance but has an upgrade path where you don't need to change motherboard.
or go same price as intel with ryzen 7700, get both the performance and upgrade path
50 bucks more and cheaper motherboard AND better performance? 14600k it is.
The 7600x is actually at 230-250 bucks and you will be able to upgrade to a 3 years newer CPU without changing the motherboard
@@kenos6939 that really does not matter to me as I upgrade every 4-5 years sometimes even more. I can still reuse my ddr4 and just buy a b760 then 14600k or 14700 (depending on budget) and im done.
And a new motherboard sooner when upgrade time comes.... big savings... the pcpartpicker way.
@@m8x425 highly doubt you even upgrade your cpu.
@@justanobody4983 In 5 yrs the Ryzen 5 of that time will be more powerful than 14700k, more efficient, cheaper too and available as an upgrade for people with current AM5 motherboards without needing to replace them, you will literally save money with AMD but if you wanna lock yourself with that Intel path which is already obsolete and more expensive in the long run then go right ahead, its your money🤷♂️
If you nuying 14 and 13th gen cpu's remember only i7 and i9 have that problem
only the first game i can see why the price difference between both CPU. but I lost it when i saw the next games
Thank you for the video. AMD is the best in terms "value-for-money". And 7600X shows that more than any other CPU. I can compare 13900K + 4080 GPU and 7600X + 4070ti GPU, which I´ve been using last months. That Intel setup needed much more cooling and the purchase (market) price was nearly double of the AMD setup. With 7600X, you can use some good air cooling, and save even more money. The difference in power is not that huge, especially while gaming. For now, I would consider 7600X and 7500F. I think that theese two are the best CPU for gaming, considering purchase price. If you compare high end CPUs, Intel is still the way to go. 14900 compared to 7950 offers much better single thread power and the price is very similar.
afaik 7700x is really fast already i must say amongst top 5 gaming cpu atm
Cough AM5 support longevity Cough
thing is.. if you bought intel at 12th gen you can still buy intel at 14th gen. Thats what decide what to buy and upgrade here.
The i5 x600k is AWESOME at 13-14th gen. much better then AMD's tbh (with optimization OC etc) starforge pc's runs alot of riggs with that and you can bust oout alot of performance.
Watch how much more it utilze that 4090 in % as well. with opt you can utilize it even more.
What current MB you sit on decides what to upgrade atm. Intel did good with 3 gen support if you bought the 12th gen MB's.. thats alot tbh
you dont afaik, 14gen requires different board, but maybe now supported i havent checked
14 gen already?
Its a refresh so nothing impressive
@@hman2875 same socket? I mean, Intel changes sockets faster than a french changes underwear
@@thiagorodrigues5211 yep, same socket. 14th Gen CPU's are refreshed 13th Gen CPU's.
nope the 13gen is 12 refresh
Its really not worth it too spend that extra 150 dollars for i5 14600k. In Canada the i5 14600k is 439 dollars while 7600x is 309 dollars. I think i could even get away with getting ryzen 7600 and I'll be it.
true 150 can be alot better gpu
Impressive its look like intel coming back to the game good to see competition coming back to market or Who is stoping amd to become intel with there bs650 over priced crap mob
2 gerações atrás e o 7600x ainda leva no custo beneficio
нет ,этот тест лож ! 14600 к местами 7800 х 3 д обходит ! 7600 х днище по сравнению с 14600 к !
For Games, Intel of course
ryzen 7000 is fast too, if theyre sitting at 200-300$ itll be better
Now amd fanboys will cry:
b-but its consumes less power🤓
Edit- they all started crying 😂😂
...and costs less money? and isn't in a dead platform? lol it isn't about fanboys it's about common sense
I'm not a fan of AMD, but for a Ryzen 5 7600x (6 cores 12 threads) vs Intel i5 14600k (14 cores 20 threads) , the Ryzen is very good.
Cry why? Because 50$/16% more expencive cpu deliver 2-6% more fps? 😂
AMD fanboys are actually chillin and waiting for next intel fail in 2024, as expected😪.
7600x is a lot cheaper in eu, 200 Vs 300, if you're building from scratch and use it just for gaming is a no brainer.
Different if you're upgrading from 12600k.
You're probably desperate if you're comparing i5 14600K to a processor that's over a year old. And 6 vs 14 cores.
Nah way bro
7600x is 23k rupees
14600k is 30k rupees
you need to pay for better
Let's wait and see AMD's next CPU generation. Then we compare with Intel's 14th generation again.
is a higher percentage of Gpu utilisation better or worse?
The higher GPU Utilisation is a good thing because it means that the CPU is able to provide a higher workload for the GPU.
So most basically the whole package is faster. Generally in a gamingPC the GPU will be more utalized than the CPU and a really fast GPU can only bring its full potential using an adequate/suitable CPU.
Whats really interesting in benchmarks like this is the way the package performs:
In most cases as you can see here the CPUs are like between 20% and 70% usage and the GPU is far away from its limits, too.
What you see here is that the CPU-Cores are not fully utilized not even the testet Hexacores (Yep, the 14600 has it's eight additional efficiancy-cores but they will most likely not be used for the workload of modern games anyway).
So for example if a game only utilizes 2 out of 6 cores (Or 4/12 threads, whatever) it simply utilizes at most 33% of what the CPU is capable off.
This is a total theoretic szenario because in reality you wouldn't use a RTX4090 @1080p and it will be 100% used @4k in most basically all modern games but it shows pretty good that a CPU no matter how much cores it has is only as capable as the software is able to utalize the amount of cores.
But because of this in most games a hexcore is totally fine and will be for some more time.
AMD people : proceeds to write comments about Intel sucking everywhere
AMD perfomance :
better in every game and task
@@Phan1hs since when? 14600K demolishes 7600X in every task, and even beats it in a lot of games. 7600X is good if you want to only game and do nothing else dueto its lower price point, but the 14600K is a no brainer for general purpose or workloads
Wait the new 9000 series for amd.
Is it possible to make a 12600k vs 14600k comparison? 😊
The difference would be about 10-20%
The difference would be about 1-2%
In gaming, around 15-20% better on average
In workloads, around 30-40% better on average
brother i ryzen 5 7600x vs i5 14500 one video please
INTEL'S POWER HUNGRY
AMD WINS THIS ROUND AGAIN ❤
10W more is 'POWER HUNGRY' 💀you AMD fanboys make me laugh
Is it stock or oc?
Stock
Очередной лживый проплаченный тест!!!😂😂😂😂 всё подстроенно в пользу синих!
Who is gonna pair a 4090 with a 7600x or 14600k
And who is going to get a 4090 to play at 1080p...
Bro its a CPU test
Me
Also its not a bad idea to pair up that CPU and GPU combo if you play at 1440p or 4K with RTX on. Especially since games are so unoptimized on the GPU end.
Queue the fanboys. GO!
Такой проц, нужно сравнивать с ryzen 7 7700
How much cpu temperature is ok for laptops while gaming
80°c to 90°c
just below 90 Celcius is amazing, but a little peak to like 91-93 is not that bad
it depends. If you leave it on by default (all top brand like Asus, Lenovo, Acer, HP...), the temp expected should be 80°c to 92°c. If you switch to high performance mode (which i don't recommend), the temp goes a little bit higher, but you can lower it down by tune the fan speed to max (avoid doing this at night if you don't want to wake your parents up). Just remember to create a small gap between your laptop and the table to make sure your laptop air vent works properly.
30°
if no smoke come out from your laptops, then its fine 😉
i am first give me noble prize pls
Porque se Intel utiliza más la gpu que amd
Si corres mas, tus brazos se moveran mas no?
because intel is the faster cpu
Потому что так настроили тестеровщики по заказу синих!😂
Hogwarts legacy under 70 fps, it's right? My goodness
cpu intensive scenario + RT
14 gen seems like a shit. Still sitting on i7-8700K in stock, enought for me absolutely!
an i5 is literally 2 times faster than your i7 nowadays
Well, if he has weak gpu or plays in 4k it shouldnt matter much, but indeed 14600k has a great performance especially comparing to old cpus, sadly it consumes a lot of power as well as overheats with a dead platform on top of that..
@@raze618 if you look at the c.pwr stats & cpu temps in these tests the 14600K isn't consuming much more power than 7600X and the 14600K is running cooler.
@@mathesar unless you're running a rendering farm, like these other people seem to be doing
If you only game 60hz and with some old gpu that is true, but for some people who want to enjoy rt, or fps games at 360hz you really need something faster that won't drop 1% fps to below 100fps xd
Why does the same processor have higher FPS here? the game has the same graphics settings
ruclips.net/video/2t5y0QsD2dA/видео.html
is APO enable on 14600K this test?
APO is only available for 2 Games rigth now
@@shleft9938 And only available to 14700k and 14900k. Not 14600k sadly.
@@gtgaming7282wow that too much, even they didn't support 12+13 gen
@@rlifeh Yes i think its the only way for intel to sell their new cpu because other than that its exactly the same as 13th gen.
@@gtgaming7282 you are right, very cheap way to sell their cpu
even though the i 5 has better performance id get the 7600x for better upgradeability later on when they release the 8000 series as even though the 7600x is older than the i5 itrs shocking how a new gen processor is on the same level of the year old cpu
гораздо выгоднее будет продать и купить новую сборку !
😘😘😘😘😘R5 7600x😘😘😘😘😘
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Nice😊
turn off the E core and let's see what it can do Intel
don't need to with APO
Starfield on test? hahahahahahahahaha
Yeaaa intel🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉