Grom Clone, is it worth it? | 2020 Boom Vader 125cc | freddieRODZ
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2021
- We got a Boom Vader 125! and I love it! I got it from RedFoxPowersports.com with no issues, Bike came with MCO for registration #BoomVader #gromClone #125cc
Things i upgraded off the bat:
Levers:
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Carb:
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Sprocket:
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Handlebars:
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Grips:
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Mirrors:
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Tail Light:
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Fender eliminator:
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LED turn Signals:
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So dope!! Great mods for sure. I don't blame you on the price! Definitely can't beat that. Congrats on the new bike!!🎉
Thank you. Yes. Definitely happy with it.
Thanks a lot bro !!! Now I want one !!!!
Don’t underestimate these bikes. They are really good and save ton of money.
I almost bought a grom and then found this. This thing is so much fun.
I know me too. 9 months later and I love this little thing.
How long until you started experiencing problems
@@66Ack honestly I never had any issues with it as of yet. I’ve been proactive and upgraded everything I could so I didn’t give me problems. I have some videos on this
@@freddieRODZ I appreciate the reply bro I’ve been seriously debating getting one! Do you happen to have a video showing how to change everything?
Cool video 😎 I'm convinced
Convinced
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Is it better then the 150cc x pro x19 automatic scooter or should I get the Honda grom clone. Also I’m planning on it needing work out the box.
I never thought I would be interested in one of these. But dammit it looks like such cheap fun I can't resist
I said the same thing. Just do your research and simple maintenance and it’s all good. A year later and 5000miles later and the best thing ever. I rode it more than my Zx6r.
You made my economics teacher heart so proud...
Yay!! I did my job!!!
how many miles do you have on it now?
buying one of these form Kronik Racing soon, I hope I'm making a wise choice, there's so damn many people selling them it's hard to know who to believe, or who to trust.
They are all the same. You got no support lol.
You should bring the notta grom to grom day!😆✊️
🔥🎥 great edit✊️
Dude. I wanted to. But gotta work!! 🥲
@@freddieRODZ 😢
It’s a great first bike for those exact reasons, your gonna have to learn all that shit somehow might assert start cheap
Exactly. Thank you for watching. 🤙🏽
Wait did you have to change the handlebars to be compatible with the Kawell rearview mirrors??? If so why not mention that?
No. The mirrors are universal. I had them on stock bars then upgraded bars.
Are parts interchangeable with the grom or are they completely different?
I would say. 75% of them are. Any parts that won’t involve the engine and frame. They are. Everything I’ve gotten are parts for groms.
Perfect I just got my clone same color. Update on that mikuni carb!! Is it a fake mikuni? Jet kit used if you did? Lol I need that sticker
Everything I got is straight out the box. So yes. Fake mikuni. Jets whatever come in the box. I’m in Florida so elevation is low it runs great out the box.
@@freddieRODZ im in lauderdale and was wondering about the jets myself
@@kxry4679 yea so we have 3 clones and out of the 3. 2 have out the box carbs and one I had to go to a 105 main and it runs good.
Wish i could agree. I bought two of these and they fell apart literally at the welds in the first 3 months of very gentle use. The motor is a decent clone. Run something that looks like oil in it and this motor wont let you down. But literally everything else on this bike from the tires to the wire harness are worthless demanding and dangerous. The hardware is cheap surplus that gladly snaps without warning. The frame is so soft and the welds are so low quality that in spite of our attempts to over maintain by inspecting an torquing to spec literally every nut and bolt on the bike it obviously couldn't keep the welds from snapping off mid ride. I'm just addressing the particularly dangerous issues with this bike. This is without mention from day one both these bike broke down every 3 days. They both suffered from endless electrical issues. Mind your break lines by the way. I had to reroute mine to keep them from vibrating themselves to pieces. Unfortunately for potential buyers this may sound generic but it's easier just to say the whole bike is absolute garbage. To clarify if you buy this "bike" you should know you are buying a motor in a decorative package that looks like a motorcycle. I mean i guess the tire arn't that terrible.
Yea I understand where you coming from. We have 2 for almost a year and ride them daily. So far so good. Other than replacing some engine bolt mounts. It’s been reliable 🤙🏽. Thank for watching
What year were yours? The newer ones are supposed to be much more durable from what I’ve heard. Not 100% sure tho as I haven’t owned either
@@vilety4846 we have the 2020 bought in April 2021
This brand is Bao Diao(宝雕) which means a treasure of eagle.
Hell yeah. That’s gonna be the new name of it. Eagles treasure. 🤟
I’m still waiting on Pt 2 of the dual moto vloggy 🧐
Will this be reliable for long distances rides? Im deciding between this and the kymco spade 150. The bike will be use for long distace trip, and moto camping.
I haven’t don’t long trips. But Then I would go with the 150. A little more power and EFI. This one would be more for like city community
I also have a 2020 Vader gen 2... I love it. It's a fun stupid stuff bike, like a Grom, but 1/3 the price.
I'd only consider a Grom if I didn't want to change anything mechanical. Honda reliability is legendary, no need to mess with it. But if an owner was going to go hog wild... Might as well mod a clone.
I agree. I love that I can only build up from here. And not feel like I’m breaking the bank.
Its not bad. I also consider to buy 1 just to mess it up. Probably waiting for someone to sell it used. Doubt its will hold the resale value like Grom. My grom the only mod is done is change the stock exhaust & side mirror.
@@ohlalalala1000 you’d be surprised. On my local listings pages people in my area of NH/ME are asking more for their bikes than when they were brand new shipped to their door.
So you need a Motorcycle license to drive this?
@@valleybud1783 yes... It's a 125cc motorcycle
not a scooter or moped. I don't think there's anywhere outside of 3rd world countries where you wouldn't need a full cycle endorsement.
On the RedFox website they advertise their Vader as having a 125cc BOSS motor Special Edition. WHAT'S THAT? None of the other sellers of the 125cc Vader mini motorcycles advertise a "BOSS" motor or special edition. Is it something real or just advertising? They also say Groom 125cc??? I've finally figured out why the three different prices for the X-Pro Vader on Amazon - different levels of assembly. The lowest priced bikes need the most added assembly by the buyer. Best to go through every nut and bolt and Loctite them all, I guess. It's annoying to have to do some assembly but at least you'll know that's it's been done right if you do it yourself. The three prices were $ 1,149, $ 1,299 and $ 1,700. That $ 1,700 was with free shipping, though.
It’s just a name they doing now. Still the same bike. I don’t matter on the assembly you still got to put it together.
You mean to tell me- THATS NOT A GROM?!? 😂 They ain’t ready for the foolery!
I know right!!! They aren’t ready lol 😘😘
Hi. How many miles are on it now? Any major issues yet? Would you recommend this for its value?
Is this manual? How much mechanical work have you done on it cuz I have none whatsoever...
4K miles now. Nothing major. Just little things every now and then. I’d only recommend if you want/like working on bikes. I wouldn’t recommend if this your only bike tho. 👌.
Fun bike, thanks for the look but the carb is on backwards and the air filter is exactly were it should not be.
Oh I’ve seen it like that. On other people. I can try to swap it. I figured the throttle cable wouldn’t reach
Two years in... update? Still worth it? Also, in terms of off road, is it rated, like with spark arrestor?
If you like to mess with thing and know how turn a wrench. Yes definitely worth it. My fav bike so far.
Not sure about off-road
Have you figured out how they made the front forks as cheap as they could?
No. Not yet. I mean eventually will swap out with Honda front end
@@freddieRODZ You can do that, spend around $300 for used forks and then buy the springs and adjustable dampening kit for another $200. Do all the nesasery disassembly and reassembley put in the right amount of fork oil or you could do what I've done and get a set of very nice high quality fully adjustable direct replacement forks from Aliexpress for a little over $200. There legit and with spring preload, compression and rebound adjustments and a bargain at that price. I've got a little over 3000mi on them, no leaks no probs.
nice!!!
Thank you
i'm 5,0 is this good bike
So what if u have someone to mentor u to change carb and chain?etc
Then you good. Just do the necessary upgrades and the bike will be solid.
It's $1300 and it's been on pre order when did you place your order I've been try to buy one but not on pre order from the same web site. The engine can be replaced with a Honda. I have more parts then the bike coast right now I'm just waiting for the bike to be in stock. I'm calling mine the honda killer I'm going to put the same amount as a grom coast but it going to be twice the bike for the hater's I all ready have a zs190cc for it 👍👌✌️💯🏍️
Yes. I know. All the site are on preorder. I got mine mid March.
You can get them on Amazon, I just ordered one 2 weeks ago and it came today, 1,600 shipped to your door
Yo I'm jelly love the video 📹
Yours it’s coming
A lot less than 1/3 of a grom after dealers tack on their fees and the new grom is 5k+ out the door now.
Yea man. I love this thing. It’s so fun. And I rode with groms and they don’t know the difference 😂🤙🏽
@@freddieRODZ the company that makes Hawks came out with a grom clone. 150cc with 5 speed trans called RPS Condor.
The only reason the grom boys are hating on these clones is because they the ones who bit the bullet and bought expensive groms, they lowkey jealous that’s it
Not gonna lie. Someone said that to me. And he had a grom. 😂
How long did it take to come
Back in march 13 days.
How long did you wait for shipping bro!?
2 weeks back in March.
The best part is with the clone you can put better forks and a big bore or a 190 and still spend less than a used grom
I agree. That’s the main reason I got it. Customizable and still cheaper than a grom.
@@freddieRODZ me too. I wasn't planning on forks but mine don't work at all they stay compressed. If yours are bad I can send a link to the forks I found for these seen a video they seem really good
I changed the fork oil on mine and it works fine. Doesn’t bottom out like it used to.
What kind of mileage do you get
After the big bore kit. I’m getting around 110miles to the tank. But I haven’t ran out of gas yet.
Is the thing on the handlebars my on the 50
It’s the same one.
But it is from my bike
No. It’s from mine.
Ok
Where do you buy it???
Redfoxpowersports.com
How many miles do you have on it
Right now as of today 1,256 miles. I’m in the process of doing a big bore 141 kit on
Why they keep calling it a clone you don’t call a Yamaha a kawasaki clone right? Is just a Corolla and a prizm back in the day they looked exactly the same one was made by Chevy and one by Toyota there’s Honda grom and a Jiangsu BaoDiao From China that’s their take on a grom style just like Kawasaki has one and Yamaha has one and no one calls them clones I have a baodiao boom Vader not a clone ❤❤
I have one too it's not a grom it's not a clone it's a BOOM vader it's a different company
Where did you get the "Not A Grom" sticker?
I made it.
I bet you look like a giant on a clown bike. Lol. Looks fun!
Pretty much. Still fun lol.
U can drop a 190cc motor and swap out that 125cc
Yes. That’s the upgrade. Later on also.
If I paid twice as much and have the same fun I’d be a hater too
Waiting on mine. Talking a month :(
Yea. It’s worth it. If you can. Get all the upgrades you wanna do so when you get it you can mod it out the box. 👌
@freddieRODZ I thought about doing this, however I’m kinda skeptical I’ll get it at all lol. I placed my order April 1st but still haven’t received the bike.
Yea I know the feeling. My brother got one in April 1st too and he waiting for it. Red fox say they shipping at the end of the month.
@@ionicbreeze Did you get it yet? I'm in the same boat
@@smallboifunk1781 yes I did! And it came with the certificate of origin. I rode it 3 miles before modding it lmao. With stock carb and a cheap $30 slip on I could power wheelie in first. I then put a vm22 on there but it seems I have to tune it. All in all it’s a fun bike and im satisfied, although I’ll never order through them again since it took 3-4x as long as it should have
Everything is cool besides that shitty carburetor 🤮🤮
I mean. Yea. But I changed it and cleaned it up since this video. It’s been running and I tucked that carb back.