It's Not Just You... Google Sucks Now.
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- Google's search engine is broken. What happened to Google Search? It feels like its getting harder to find the info you need with google search, and other AI tools that were supposed to help are making things worse. Tons of SEO, affiliate marketers, and ads have flooded the search page, how can we avoid it? Will chat GPT 4o save the day?
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Howdy hey, this vid is a bit different than normal but I really wanted to make it - so lmk if you wanna see more hipyo rambles.
Edit: this vid was made before the google summit and further AI integrations into search (I'll talk about those later)
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Nice how you solved the maze.
Nice video I want to see more rants
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Google dropped its company motto "Don't be evil" in 2015. So there is that.
It has always been evil.
It seems unavoidable for corporations to become evil when they get big... and the only ways we can effectively fight back are through unions and gov't.
A motto never changed anything.
Actually, dropping a fake motto might have been one of the few honest things they ever did.
Google became Alphabet and changed the motto to "Be evil".
Seriously? "Don't be evil" is code for "we're gonna be evil. Oooohhh yeah, so goddamn evil."
The biggest issue I have had with Google lately is more RUclips. Why is the RUclips search so bad now? It gives me like 10 videos on the subject I searched and then it's just my recommendations tab. Like huh?
It's all shorts tbh
@@HipyoTech heh, the experience is wildly different depending on what video you watch. I never watch any short so i never see any either in my recommended or in my search result.
it's also why you need to be careful about what you watch, because watching one wrong video can contaminate your feed and lead down a spiral of trash content.
It's also why I dislike video's as soon as I feel they might influence my recommended in a bad way. Like and dislike is a tool you can use to influence what is recommended to you. And you NEVER want to like anything you don't want to see a looooot more of.
There's quite a lot of issues. They're gatekeepers to information. Whether comments get deleted, how videos get recommended or pushed down to nonexistence, and irresponsible behavior is glorified. Many important topics are removed as well. The way dislikes are removed was incredibly questionable. It was helpful in finding trustworthy information.
They can do so much without justification.
Yeah RUclips search is completely unusable outside the first few results.
WIth RUclips I also still hate that they removed dislikes. When you're looking into something and you can only see a like, you just can't tell if it's any good unless you put in a lot more time and effort. You used to be able to just see the massive dislike count and know to move on.
Ai articles suck so fucking bad.
nahh
@@NLdude77_Minecraftonly an ai, fed or an article writer who writes these articles.
to be fair, most human articles also really suck
You’re probably referring to heavily behind ai models, try perplexity and thank me later :)
Human written article are worse imho
It has gotten so bad that I have to use Google, Reddit, and RUclips to cross reference each other to make sure that the information is moderately accurate.
I think this is the real solution, have to basically do college level fact references
@@HipyoTechyeah but I was doing that since forever. I don’t get the point you are trying to make in the video. Do you think you should get 100% relevant and accurate information from 1 google search on a specific thing that is kinda not factual? Like with the example of keyboards you even said it’s mostly preference with 3 important criteria, what if somebody values other criteria for their keyboards. Who is now correct and whose info google should throw at you?
The cat example was definitely better but still maybe the result are technically correct and you can get that plant without the beans growing. I don’t know shit about them so it was just a theoretical possibility.
So my point is this was an issue and will ever be an issue because you cannot encompass everything you are trying to find out in a single google search.
... all three of those a very bad for references.
use brave search, and a couple of other search engines, if you want to cross reference what is actually being shown.
it's a known fact that all 3 of the sites you mention are removing, reranking and delisting any result they don't like, even if the information is correct and relevant.
This is exactly what I ended up searching and cross-referencing when I was first getting into the hobby. This is kinda what I still do, when trying to find an answer.
You should not use any of those options. Use brave
The search: "How to fix loose connection in headphone jack"
The article: "A headphone jack is an adapter for a TRS cable..."
_scrolls_
"...TRS cables are a common method to transmit data, especially audio..."
_scrolls_
*website subscription needed*
_disables javascript and reloads_
"...Sometimes, 2.5mm TRS cables can have loose connections with their adapter..."
_scrolls_
"...might need to replace the cable..."
_scrolls_
"...can get professional help or replace the device entirely..."
*what?* _scrolls_
"...A good audio cable to use is [affiliate promotion]"
_closes laptop_
sounds about right
This perfectly captures it
If you actually need help with a loose headphone jack. You've gotta replace the port or try a better quality jack. Some cheap cables will have smaller then normal jacks and they won't connect properly. If it's a problem where the cable only works at certain angles then you'll have to cut and re-solder the end on since it's a connection issue inside the cable. It'll require soldering though so it's not an option for everyone.
@@Splomf yeah i gotta replace the port itself, ive delayed doing it for as long as i can though lol
So true 🥲
I started adding "reddit" or "youtube" to these kinda searches which for the most part improves the results (so far...)
I'm a veterinarian and I regularly have issues with people coming in and quoting actual MISinformation they found online. I work in ER, so your dive into cat-safe plants is a regular issue we have. It's become a serious medical problem. Google searches will tell people to give medications to their pets that are fatal, or cause liver or kidney failure, seizures, etc. I have no idea how to fix this, but it's nearing epidemic levels.
People are choosing to do their own medicating for their pets as vet bills are atrociously expensive. People are strapped for cash and will cut corners where they can so they don’t end up with a fat vet bill when they needed that money to pay their bills
I saw someone show me a screenshot of google’s ai thing tell them lilies are safe to have around cats and my heart dropped! Like NO! Lilies are very poisonous! They aren’t safe to have around any animal, especially cats, by the time they show signs of lily poisoning then it’s too late! Argh wtf! 😭
How much thought is put into your vet website (assuming you have one)? I’d think the best thing to do is provide some articles on the topic and direct people there. Encourage vets in your network to do the same. Spread awareness about finding the correct resources. As long as the top results don’t have your field as the final authority, it’s going to continue. I think enough people care about their pets to want to change the culture by discouraging misinformation, they just need to know what it is and where to go instead.
It's not "dash" in this case, it's "minus". But also pretty much none of the operator tricks work in Google anymore because they are more concerned with guessing what you really want and what is the most profitable to show you than actually giving you what you said you wanted.
making a worse product to boost "user engagement."
@@lvcsslacker Showing results for user pain
seriously, i even put stuff in quotation marks and it still doesn't include those words in the search
@@simpson6700jesus i thought this was just me. it makes searching for niche resources for my patients nearly impossible now (i work in healthcare)
@@simpson6700 I KNOW RIGHT?
Is it finally time to stop telling
people to "just google it" when they ask a question.
Just DuckDuckGo/Yandex/Mojeek etc. it!
I mean, the time to stop was actually probably a decade ago. But it is never too late to start.
I tell them to "ask jeeves" it
It always sounds dumb hearing someone
@@CptJistuce
What was so bad about misinformation in 2014? 2014 was waaay better than today.
Amazon is ATROCIOUS nowadays. It's so entirely overrun by Chinese junk that it's almost pointless searching for some things on there anymore, and you certainly can't rely on the reviews.
Yep Amazon doesn't ban sellers that offer cash to delete your bad review.
Or the ones that offer $ for good reviews.
On the contrary, they might ban the user exposing the seller instead from being able to post reviews at all.
not only is it full of chinese junk, but it's also expensive. that same chinese junk is half the price on ali express and a high quality equivalent is still cheaper than what they are selling on amazon.
yupp and it’s all the same product being drop shipped by 15 different ppl using Chat GPT to write their product listings for them
You can buy a lot of the same crap from temu
The Amazon algorithm actively promotes sponsored garbage. I tried searching for a home video camera that wasnt wireless/cloud connect and guess what every single item was?
Now do how RUclips is more than happy to show advertisments that would be FTC violations if they were on TV, or against their own TOS.
wait you mean Mr Beast and the federal govt aren’t actually trying to give me free money????? lol
Just FYI:
"As of September 2021, Google no longer allows users to completely exclude search terms by using a minus sign (-) before them"
Wtf
Wrong. That feature has been missing for nearly 20 years now.
FYI...? and what's your source for this? I see nothing about it anywhere.
I will say that you're not wrong. Just searched "dolphins", got a bunch of Miami Dolphins results so I tried excluding Miami. I get linked straight to the Miami Dolphins X account.
But I'm not seeing where you get this quote that reads like a policy update.
2021 lol yup they didn't want people searching for truth abd reality and being forced to do "-news" or actual name all the msm outlets to get real information.
They saw this and were like "nope must read c0rp narrative "
Now everyone is a conspiracy theorists and the establishment and a few npcs are the only ones who are "normal and not nut jobs" like the rest of us who aren't sticking our heads in the sand
If you’re wondering why most companies drop their ethics that they seemingly upheld in the past is because there’s either almost no competition so they can get away with more, or they grew so big that the ethical concerns are seen as a money loss to them
It's all shareholder interest and short term gains now.
@@yensteel It's been like that for a while now.
@@JonLakeYes, but it's really gotten to the point they don't try to hide it anymore. They simply don't care about the customer or consumer anymore.
yeah. It all comes down to money.
They are PART of the SATANIC TAKE OVER HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
If this video gets taken down it's canon.
The data scraping that AI does is so flawed considering anyone can say anything on the internet and that'll be factored into the research
Absolutely hate using google now. I used to be able to find answers to very specific questions quite easily, but now it's like the algorithm assumes that if you didn't search something super common, that you meant to, and will only show you search results for that very common problem. And the AI answer it creates at the top of your results is even worse - it just talks around your problem instead of providing a solution, or worse, gives you false, misleading, or incredibly biased information. But what other search platform are we meant to use??
Brave Search!
I’ve noticed this issue on other search engines as well. Not as bad as Google, but it’s like I still can’t find useful results that remotely mention the phrases or keywords I used. Or useless pages will rank high because of their SEO
The real way is finding some random guy with 40k views ranting about the hyper specific topic you are researching, and that guy only makes videos on that one topic. But Google is trying to ruin that too now. If you search, they literarily won't show what you searched for, instead filling it with rubbish that is NOT SEARCH!
Sometimes I have to search not signed in in incognito to find what Im looking for without personalized junk mixed in. Its absurd.
Amazon's search is just as bad; you can say "7.5 gallon trashcan" and you'll get a 50-gallon behemoth in the search, within 10 results of the top. Which wasn't 7.5 (or even close to) gallon.
Plus hundreds of pages full of chinese trash articles with randomly generated brand names.
I was looking for a specific brand of windshield wipers on amazon. What came up was pages and pages of the six letter chinese brands (like tudbrt and pfhztg, etc.). I'm not speaking to the quality of their products, I'm speaking to the uselessness of Amazon not giving me specifically what I'm looking for.
I don't understand why so many people use amazon. I get that some things are only sold there, but trying to find anything on amazon is like trying to buy something from bigfoot himself.
@@potatoes5829 I sometimes buy tech there that isn't sold in any of the local shops.
Usually all of it has a model number which does surface on Amazon's search.
Amazon Search is worse. Google lets you keep going to the next set of results, Amazon shows you their top 200-300, and nothing else. If a search or listing has 200k products in it, you are allowed to see less than a single percent of them.
The other day I asked Siri if all chestnuts were poisonous and Siri said they were safe, I looked up the type of chestnut tree I was next to and it was poisonous.
I once asked chatgpt what tape i could use to mod my keyboard and it told me to use a conductive one💀
Treat a search engine as you would treat directions from a stranger in a foreign country.
It shouldn't be like. Where am I supposed to go for specific things? Nowhere?
Google used to be better for that, it isn't anymore.
You shouldn't have to downgrade.
Google and RUclips search have plummeted in quality, very noticeably over the last year or so. When I search for a topic, why am I getting served barely related shorts and multiple sections of unrelated videos “for me”?
My most common use for Google these days is looking up hvac manufacturer pro tech support phone numbers. Half the time the numbers they give me are to a competitor of the unit I'm working on and i have an awkward conversation with a call center worker being "why are you calling us?" Because your boss paid google to have your numbers come up when i search for your competitor.
And your boss probably pays you with the hope that you'd use your brain even a slight bit when he asked you to call hvac manufacturers. If you're just dialing and can't even figure out that the first thing you should do when you connect is verify who you are speaking with before bitching them out, you can't be helped.
@@ficklefox2171 Clearly he can tell that the number google provided wasn't the one he actually wanted; Hence his post.
You're not smart kid. Try again.
What has also become nightmarishly difficult is finding WRITTEN reviews and how-to guides. A lot of time when I'm trying to look something up I don't want to open some 10+ minute algorithm bait youtube video to get a TLDR, and sometimes I want to be able to follow along with written instructions so I'm not pausing if I'm slow or waiting for the video host to reach a step.
The other thing with written guides is they can be updated quickly and easily, and you can search keywords. Until video processing and language recognition/translation become good enough, you can't exactly search a youtube or tiktok video... and that's assuming the person making the video even knows what they're talking about in the first place or if they're just repeating information from another source they watched.
So yeah, we're stuck in an era of misguided clickbait regurgitations of information, whether it's AI generated slop or not.
This a million times over I could not agree more
this has been exactly my experience. im a wheelchair user, and it's gotten progressively more difficult to find accessibility info for places i want to go, lists of accessible attractions in places i want to travel to, non-government services for physically disabled people, stuff like that. i had to buy a new chair last year and it took several weeks of whittling down search results to find something that'd actually work for me, when even in 2019 i remember it being way easier. it's extremely frustrating when im just looking for like, clothes and tech products, but when it affects stuff i need to know for daily functioning, it's completely demoralising.
I'm here for the Hipyo rants.
Google has gone downhill and relatively quickly. I'm not bad at forcing it into better results, but I feel like I have to type up a short novel in order to get what I'm actually looking for these days.
yep and I hit the 32 word query limit :)
Not only Google. Amazon has gone to absolute garbage too.
Affiliate links and SEO are a hell of a corporate drug
Even Ebay, quite a few listings are sponsored ones that are usually not what you searched, or majorly overpriced.
The reddit trick is what I use but often what google highlights as the answer is wrong, you just have to go into the thread itself and see what people are saying. It is true that, part of searching for info now is figuring out what sources are even giving you reliable info and not just either lying or trying to make money off of you. This is why it takes me days or weeks to decide on what to buy when it comes to stuff like PC peripherals. I have to find time to read like 10 reddit threads and watch 5 youtube videos and wade through user reviews to figure out what I want to spend my money on.
I dont use reddit anymore because it can be very hivemindy. A lot of times you will see people either hating on or endorsing things theyve never even tried.
I was just tired of the ai notification option spamming me, switched to Firefox a while ago
Switched to firefox before mv3 got announced and definitely haven't looked back. A lot of people forget about firefox. I went to a friend's parent's house and told them I use firefox and they went "that still exists?".
What is the "AI Notification Option" that you've mentioned? I only use Firefox so I've never come across it, but I'm curious to know.
@@yndihalda Same. I also use FireFox never had to deal with AI notifications.
I guess Fire Fox is an old school European thing tbh.
I have a dream that one day, people will make the correct decision to use Brave
I find that using reddit to search is useful because there usually may be a discussion within the results, so you get a better understanding of what you're looking for
What I do: use search engine to get list of (best things), use search engine to go "is (best thing) good?", then access forum links that show up. Rinse and repeat step 2 for any alternatives forum users come up with
Ed Zitron's reporting on this has been scary, stuff getting worse and worse just so some exec can buy a 3rd yacht.
I'm glad I'm not the only one referencing Ed.
That's not why it's happening. People need to move on from "follow the money", there's a whole world beyond it.
@@Acetyl53 Then elucidate us. You're right there are many possible causes, but when oil companies rig prices, when Facebook inflated numbers to make companies pivot to video, when all these openly corrupt things happen, all for money, it's hard to imagine different.
So let's say it isn't pure malicious intent for money. Instead, and you're right this is more likely, it's total incompetence by the managerial class who can't see the trees nor the forest, who's only goal is infinite growth, and they have zero clue how to do that, so they just follow whatever trends are making numbers go up right now (hello Google AI).
So you're right, it isn't backroom dealings and shady emails, it's just some incompetent buffons put in charge of a company, pursuing the hottest tech trends instead of actually improving/fixing their product.
And to that, I repeat: all this for another yacht.
@@MartinDubuque Money doesn't exist, and money and power are not the same thing. There are only 3 real things, and I do mean only 3.
1) The environment / natu8ral resources
2) Human existence
3) Human behavior
There is nothing else, that's literally the extent of the human concept. All the little games and energetic gradients that form and make things move around are centered around modifying aspects of one or more of the above. There is nothing else to life, it's just energetic gradients that form sinks form movement within the system. Anyone who doesn't understand this won't be on top for long, which is why they made up money (moon eye, Horus, or mon-E, one E, one energy) to begin with.
It’s your channel man. If you need to rant, then rant! I like hearing your opinions even if I don’t agree. Plus this one was very much a PSA, so kudos for that!
I think this video is focused on products mainly, but what if you don't want to search for products? I for example want to see images of a 40 year old car with a spoiler, same make and model as mine. So I search for "(car model) spoiler", and the results are honestly awful. Image search only wants to show me products, but guess what there are no spoilers for sale for a 40 year old car. So google image search just gives me products for entirely different cars. Insanely useless.
Used to be able to find everything easy on google back in late 2000's and early 2010's. Since then, search has definitely declined :/
Thank you! I thought I was the only one and it was age issues (turning 42 next month).
But honestly, when you can buy priority in those search engines, something goes wrong. Because how they and AI work, that results in a boosting with results even in other sources who are trained with the bought search results. That really shifts the results over time.
I'm turning 42 next month too!
"Best" is terrible. These are all best: The most eco friendly keyboard, The keyboard with the largest wireless range, The keyboard with the highest polling rate, The keyboard with the longest and most durable cable, The thinnest keyboard, The keyboard with the softest buttons, The keyboard that sounds best, The keyboard that is easiest to clean, The keyboard that will last the longest, The keyboard with the biggest keys, The keyboard with the most tactile feedback, The keyboard with the smoothest travel, The keyboard with the least travel, The keyboard with the most travel, The most rigid keyboard, The most flexible keyboard, The lightest keyboard, The keyboard that moves the least on your desk, The smallest keyboard, The keyboard with the most keys, blaaaaaaaaa blaaaa bla
Yes, I was thinking exactly the same. It was a terrible search term to use as an example.
I was thinking the same thing the other day after finding out that AI summaries are now a mandatory part of search. Totally OK with the topic choice, now I know I am not the only one that thinks search is getting worse.
Finding good product results on Google is a mess, but I'm not convinced it's entirely their fault. Corporations hire SEO companies to achieve maximum hits from Google search but in order to do that you have to sacrifice accuracy. Then there's the sites themselves. I go into Home Depot, find portable air conditioners and when I try to use THEIR filter to show only dual hose. The darn site STILL shows single hose results. So what does this mean? It's a whole cluster F out there.
But companies only do SEO because Google decided that that is their business model.
The recent Google "updates" have included disabling algorithms that downprioritize spammy SEO pages, along with disabling some spell correction, to make people "google more" because they don't get the correct answers.
You got results for "dual mode high performance/energy savings, with output hose"... it had the word dual and the word hose. You have to learn tricks like using quotes. But yeah it's bad.
The other problem with review sites is that most just write up articles from spec sheets and never actually get hands on. I've also seen reports of some of the bigger sites being paid-for articles so the more the manufacturer pays the higher up they rank. :(
The problem is that these algorithms use "authority" sites to provide information for certain category. For mechanical keyboards they use same sites as for any other PC peripheral - which is really stupid thing to do, when "mechanical keyboards" became separate topic from consumer mechanical keyboards long time ago.
Its hard as hell to find anything relating to symbolism or writing. Like all of the results is just AI spammed 'witchtok' articles with no actual bearing on items and their most common symbolism uses.
Ive always been a little bit of a wikipedia addict, that being said ive noticed more and more that ive started open wikipedia first before google for some queries. Its going to give me answers for many topics faster, easier, and more reliably for somethings, especially when its a search for something thats probably gonna have the wiki page be the first thing available anyways
I did a History degree a few years ago and Google was an effing nightmare to find things. When I googled things in High school for the same subject, it was great.
It is HILARIOUS how a RUclips page I follow for something completely unrelated is also talking about this - I've been a professional Search Engine Optimization and online marketer and have been following the recent changes at Google with a lot of interest - they've really messed things up
I asked google maps for good shawarma and it suggested mostly sushi and Mexican restaurants
😂
There's a fundamental assumption that people make: That the search engine knows better than you what is real and what is not. Google isn't any better at it than you are.
- obliterates Alphabet in some teeny/childish influencer video-essay;
- post it on his channel inside Google's own (BOUGHT) platform;
- refuses to elaborate;
- leaves.
I'm a couple minutes in and waiting for something useful. Sounds like it's time to bail...
I’m in NYC for the week end and finding stores selling specific clothing items is a real chore. Like the stores exist, but you have to wrestle Google for it to give up the info and not your generic H&Ms.
Thank you for doing a video about this!
I’m researching black/goth cocktails to make since I want to make a cocktail based off my favorite Undertale character for my next video. The search results showed me recipes for drinks that don’t exist, showed me AI pictures of cocktails with no recipes and even after going out of my way to say “I want these cocktails without activated charcoal” because I take birth control, I got NOTHING BUT cocktails with activated charcoal in them.
I just switched to Brave today and it’s already been an easier experience and considering the rumors of romance artists being blocked from their Google accounts for having more… passionate love scenes in their novels that they stored on Google Drive…. I don’t think I’m going back.
Have you tried finding dark complimentary colors? Theoretically that should get you black, or at least really close to it.
Here's the thing, major websites got really good at SEO on Google. It's been figured out for years how to game Google's indexing. And it's now getting worse that companies can quickly generate hyperoptimized SEO-Clickbait with AI.
"Hipyo Rants" is great. I found you through your AirUp video, and while I appreciate your other vids the topic of keyboards just doesn't hold my attention for long. Incorporating your style into other topics like this is awesome.
I’ve recently tried finding real reviews of mattresses online. They don’t exist.
Google goes by keywords. It does not take all of the keywords into account together. That's why you get millions of responses that have absolutely nothing to do with what you asked. I literally asked Google for things and gotten the exact opposite answer. It's mind-boggling! Oh and their advanced search does nothing anymore!
Even putting the keywords you want in quotes only works about half the time.
And if you actually use the advanced search operators, Google thinks you're a damn robot and puts you through like 30 captchas so you can train their computer vision for free! 😵💫
@@cra0cristal Yeah, and the worst part is when you answer the captchas "too perfectly" 30 times in a row, so it thinks you are a really advanced bot or something and blocks you anyway. I've had to start purposefully putting in a mistake or two so that the captcha will believe that it detected "human error" and let me pass. 🤦 Or at least that's how it feels. It is so bizarre.
really hate that you can't click on the map after searching a place anymore. instead it just opens a slightly bigger map but not the actual google maps site.
it used to open it up in google maps idk why they got rid of it
Point of contention. Dampened means to be made wet, and you do that with a dampener. Whereas you're using a damper to make your keyboard damped.
SuperFastMatt pointed it out in one of his videos, and I can't not forward it. Plus, it boosts engagement.
my god I'm so dumb - still probably gonna say dampened tho its too stuck in my brain
Wait a second. While dampened does literally mean to be made wet, it is also a term used in both music and physics. Both respectively use it to describe reduction of vibrations, frequency, oscillations. So keep on using :)
@@madmax9382or the musicians and scientists using the word incorrectly?
Never heard of a sound dampener?
@@madmax9382 or like a dampener in a car
The biggest shit is that google cache is gone
I can’t ever find anything on google 🙄 I just look for RUclips reviews now 😂
I like the new video style too.
You hear about your Waveform shout-out?
My girlfriend googled the name of a movie we wanted to watch just to know where it was streamed, and Google gave her an AI-generated summary of the plot, basically spoiling the whole movie
It's scary at a minimum and dangerous at worst to have one monopoly in Google to be the gateway to everything. How did we get here? Google pays off Apple BILLIONS to be a good boy and just take the money and not ask questions and just make them default. It's impossible for anyone, even a huge tech company with deep pockets like Microsoft to make a dent.We need government to step in. This is crazy. We desperatley need competition in search.
It's technofeudalism.
Please stop with this whole tone and vibe you're doing. Calm down.
@@Acetyl53 relax, I’m just stating the obvious. Tell the prominent people in the industry who say the exact same thing. Take a deep breath go outside and touch grass.
@@qwertyzxaszc6323 Projection. Total yawn.
Compared to the youtube search the google search still works great.
The youtube search is completely messed up nowadays. If you want to find videos on a certain product and there is a similar, more popular product, sometimes 90%+ of results are videos on the other more popular product. Even if you type in the exact name. With monitors it's really bad because a single different letter in the name usually means that it uses a completely different pannel. And as you scroll down more and more it just repeats the videos it has already shown earlier in the search instead of showing the less popular videos that you were actually looking for.
Stopped reading at "compared". That's "lesser evil" thinking. Purge that from your mind. They're both garbage. They're all garbage. Duckduckgo, garbage. Google, garbage. Bing, garbage. Yandex, eh... garbage. Startpage, garbage.
There is no "works great". Not by an absolute metric, and not by a comparative one either. All of them of them are 100% complete garbage and it's intentional.
Don't use the word "best" when searching, because "best" is subjective, and what is best for you might not be best for someone else. I would instead search for the phrase "Custom mechanical keyboard", and then if i knew nothing, i'd make sure to read through at least a half dozen of the top results.
It's not just keyboards. Anything i wanna find, don't use "best" in the search. It's like a cursed search term that always gives you crap results.
Being good at searching google is definitely a skill, a lot of people are bad at it. You have to know what words to avoid and what words to use to get the results you want.
And that shouldn't be the case. It didn't used to be the case.
Nowadays most sites compete with each other for engagement. Because advertisements on the internet are cheap, they usually include words like "best", "top", "most [subjective description, like suitable for regular people]", ... . You need to examine the source first, their offer later. For instance NYTimes is definitely not trusted in tech, thus everything they propose from tech products is an advertisement.
@MamaMOB yeah but before it wasn't any auto-generated affiliate sites with extremely perfect SEO either....
Good video. It's depressing to think about how much sales has driven the internet towards being an unusable hellscape and will probably continue to do so unless something changes... Scary about your cat. Glad you caught that!
search being commercialized is possibly the worst thing that happened to the internet.
the other day i was trying to look up how to program midi signals and some more technical stuff for my DIY synth, none of the first two pages told me anything about what i was looking for, it was all just "here buy this midi cable and plug it into this spot on your midi controller.
You're too young to have seen the old google.
It is unusable compared to what it used to be.
Which period were you referring to? It was ok in 2002 onwards at least. Pre 2000, ask jeves, alivista, and yahoo were popular, although terrible.
@@yensteelJeaves was good tho, did a pretty decent job at times. R.I.P. Jeaves wherever you are. 😢
@@yensteel When you could buy the IPO stock for $100 USD.
Rtings isn't an affiliate farm. And they are actually hella good for TV and monitor reviews.
But yeah, as a grizzled ancient tech nerd from Gen X... the internet as a whole has gone to shit. Google is a dumpster fire, and some of that is definitely due to things they have done intentionally, but they only get partial credit.
Ironically, because I got signed out automatically while watching this video, i press the back button and it brings me back to this page and I get "Google sucks right now". Perfect.
"Just show me the first post that wasn't sponsored." Google: "Oh, oh, oh you're doing a bit of scrolling"
Glad I found you before Google's enpoopification.
Cory Doctorow knows what he's talking about on this one. So does Ed Zitron.
To be honest, I don't really see this as a fault of Google, but more the internet as a whole. Especially since the insurgence of LLMs, the internet has had an extreme overflow of low quality content (AI-generated). And I think it's pretty hard for Google to sort that stuff out of searches, because they still use the same SEO techniques...
So there's a big problem I have noticed, I call it search poisoning. Marketplaces offer the ability for small companies to sell their products (Newegg, Amazon, Walmart...) but then they label their products incorrectly. This allows them to show up on search results they don't belong in. It makes doing product comparison difficult. So a lot of the blame is with the marketplaces for not cracking down on this. It means that there are no fines for what I would call false advertising.
There's a second problem, and that is fake products. I'm not just saying like a "Guchi" purse or "Niky" shoes that are knockoffs and still work, but stuff like SD cards and USB drives where it presents a fake size and doesn't work. This makes price comparisons difficult because you have no way of knowing if you are buying the best price or a scam. There seems to be little consequences for these flash in the pan stores.
I think a modern search engine is no longer possible without manual moderation to eliminate garbage sites from search results
i don't know about google, i use duckduck since a decade
They are getting AI search now as well :D
Duckduckgo is just a white label Bing
Same
Duckduckgo is essentially a frontend for Google.
Adblockers help tremendously, and common sense does aswell.
I once saw a post on imgur that showed you how to use google to properly search for things, and my first reaction was "Wow, I basically have to know programming to use a search engine! totally understandable."
I've been saying for a long time now that Google search has become useless, I've used it a lot in my life but get sick of the damn useless results that it spits out all the time now.
GJ expanding your topic domain. You put out something different but used keebs as kind of an anchor. I think you could do a lot of stuff on user experience with devices - keyboards or other things related to user experience.
I had an odd niche question, wanted specifics, and i went to bing as a last resort. As soon as i saw the AI logo, i turned away; aint no way in hell i'm going to read language model hallucinations
i can't help but wonder if the issue with google claiming that one restaurant has a certain food while the actual menu doesn't include the item is a problem with the algorithm compiling information from outdated menus. idk if that's a thing in those restaurant compilation websites elsewhere in the world, but here we have a website called OpenRice where users can basically take a photo of a restaurant's menu and then upload it onto the restaurant's page. which means if it's a niche restaurant (or restaurants where the main clienette aren't tech-savvy), it's easy for the website to hold outdated information even when the menu hasn't been the same for years. i imagine that special offers, limited edition foods/drinks, and collaborations will also corrupt the data compilation.
and ik this is a video about google and idk if it's an issue on there, but i imagine that the chain restaurants can mess up the data, especially when different stores have different events/specialties going on at the same time. it's especially evident on amazon listings with variations of the same item e.g. different colours of the same keyboard. for example, let's say the paint only chips on the white version, but since the white/black/blue/purple/red versions are all under the same listing, 'paint chipping' would be listed as a problem with the product if enough people who bought the white version talked about it - even though the problem is not present in the other models - because the algorithm treats them as 'the same product'. and i imagine that restaurants can be the same because the food quality and availability can drastically vary depending on which store you're going to.
This video greatly summarizes my thought when trying to buy a new bicycle. I've never bought a proper bicycle myself for me or anyone else and have no idea what to really look for in a bike. I've heard that Shimano is a good brand to look for in a bike parts but not anything else. Tried to Google and use other search providers and did not find any good options for me. I tried to learn about what to look for before going to physical shop and be potentially scammed. I found some pointers form a old local bike forum but that did not help me much. Visited multiple stores to see what's available but ultimately went with a bike that was in a professional bike shop with a enthusiastic bike lover sales person and gave me couple of options that I could choose from.
It's crazy how I can no longer find stuff that I researched recently and I'm only trying to confirm or expand on, and it's nowhere to be found. Lucky sometimes I have some quotes in my notes, so I google for a phrase in quotation marks in order to find the phrase verbatim, and only THEN the actual source appears in searches again. It's infuriating.
I don't know if I'm just searching for them wrong, but if I ever want to search for a full size, good key, *With* the numpad, all I get is results for keychron or random unknown brands on amazon which I have little faith. As someone who wants and needs(for work) a full size keyboard, either google shows me little to know options, or I really am on an island far from the mainland. It really sucks because I really want to buy a full size, custom, premade keyboard, yet my options are so limited and I have no idea what to do or where to go
What you're looking for is a 104-key keyboard, and there are dozens of decent offerings by reputable brands.
I gave a recommendation for an alternative search, and it got removed by youtube... and that's actually kinda concerning.
Deeply concerning
Too bad deal with it.
The auto Moderater did it because it was in violation of the Channel Guidelines
If they don't want links the ya better get used to it
Good rant, validates my own frustration. It took me about 30 minutes of searching to find a solution to a Reaper problem I encountered. Even using specific language, I could not find anything directly relating to my issue. I ended up just trying stuff with plugins until what I wanted to happen happened. Information, information, everywhere, Nor any drop to drink.
All of this. Needing to double checking search results is not new... but I'd argue incorrect information has never be presented so confidently
Dude, finding you was fate. I have been dealing with this exact same thing all day, and thankfully discovered your channel, and here you are describing what happened before i discovered you
I don't need examples for AI being no suitable replacement for a real working search! Direct access to a huge, unfiltered index is the only way to be able to find and do the right thing yourself. Ony seeing some other one's interpretaton and paternalism instead of being able to see all data myself is not even remotely acceptable, be it an AI or a natural person!
I thought i'm just getting older because my googling skill become worse
Great video, I was thinking that it is 'my issue' that I could not find reliable info when trying to purchase new tech for my house . Everything seems to be just advertising and nor real product evaluation. Same goes for trying to buy furniture - very flowery descriptions, AI regurgitating promotional materials written by very young people who never bought furniture so you cannot search for a dining table by size...
I regularly get requests from friends to search things for them if a topic has even a hint of complexity, there's so many dumb tricks and things you have to look out for when searching around that you genuinely do need to figure out a way to optimize your searches yourself. The same things that took me merely 5~ish or so minutes to look up 5-10 years ago now can take up to literal hours.
Amazon and walmart will show a widget, for $2.00, and then when you go to sort the results from prices low to high, the first result (after sponsered garbage, of course) is widgets for $5.00 and the price only ever goes up as you go down the list. (and/or a bunch of things that aren't widgets)
Google is so much worse. I've resorted to different apps/sites for each category of search interest. Pinterest for images, Meetup for events, opentable for restaurants, etc
I found you when I was considering building a mechanical keyboard for a new computer I got. You helped me to understand that I don’t type! I then went and bought the keyboard that should go with the computer. No matter what we use, we’re gonna have to do the research! Your content rocks by the way, that’s why I still watch you!
There is a term for these monopolies making their services worse in pursuit of profit once there is no real completion - enshittification.
Great video!
I ran into the dual-hose portable AC thing myself, but here in the netherlands. At some point i thought i actually found one, but it was another single hose unit when it actually arrived. I dont think they are actually on sale here at all. I got a nice single-hose AC now.
I've been stuck and frustrated and burned out with the keyboard thing and you're a great source of info. I regularly have to go on these long quests, these long consumer reports quests. Either for myself or family members that I don't want to see get screwed, again, by Amazon or whatever else. It's never-ending and it has only gotten worse.
Nice video. Year, lately i had more luck going to forums and search there directly for people that had similiar questions, than getting the answer directly on google.
This is also happening to RUclips’s search engine. Ita HORRIBLE. Keeps suggesting the same thing over and over even if it isn’t related to the topic searched. It’s so frustrating cause RUclips used to be my favourite place. 😞😞😞😞😞
I tried looking up specialty pharmacies close to me, since I was having trouble getting my specialty medication on time with the one I had. Literally NONE of the pharmacies they recommended were specialty pharmacies. There were 5 CVS's, one Walgreens, two Wal-Marts, and the only specialty pharmacy they recommended was the one I was having problems with. When I tried looking up for my entire state, just to see if it might've been that there wasn't any other specialty pharmacies near me, the same thing happened. They just showed me every pharmacy, specialty or not, in the state.
It's frustrating wanting to know what the best in tech is when all these big editorial sites google shows are just showing the budget option that most people will buy.