No human can prepare to enter “ places with strong strange vibrations “ I don’t think Kenny was “running away” . He wrote - Help me. I’m sure we will NEVER KNOW what happened to Kenny. 🌹
This case really captures the imagination. I've followed it for several years and watched various videos that try to trace Kenny's steps. To those of us still here in this physical world, it just seems so compelling of a mystery when someone just simply disappears without a single trace.
It’s so sad that he hasn’t been found. It’s so scary how people can just disappear and never be seen again. You sound like you are feeling better. Take care:)
I'm a field Geologist and have worked extensively in the Mojave Desert. I know many places where I could completely "disappear" myself should I choose to do so. It's not difficult. Kenny would have also known how.
Yes , but Kenny wrote HELP ME. If he was “ on the run “ he wouldn’t be asking for help. Some places on earth are sending strong strange vibes. No gun can protect a human . Stay away from these places. I don’t know what it is or why “bad places” exist.
I've seen many videos over the years on this case. Of course I love yours, and brought some new things to my attention. I read a lot of the comments and people seem to think he committed suicide, but maybe we'll never really know. Thank you as always for your work!
Aquachigger made several videos, trying to find the M cave and explore the area. He thought he found the cave, because in it was a sign that said either "No trespassing" or "Area 51" - I can't remember which one it said. It is sad, and I believe he committed suicide. And, living in NM, I highly disagree with anyone who hikes with the intent to take chances. I stopped watching one channel that I liked because the couple went off trail in a desert. No one should encourage others to do that.
The strange thing is that he recorded all his worth looking at stuff but forgot to even take a picture of the cave..on the other hand you do not lie about a cave that makes your body vibrate..
There are facts about this that are both unclear and not often considered. One is the condition and circumstances of his cell phone when found near the mine. Was it just left as if just set down, or did it look as if it had fallen or been dropped by accident? We also don't know what was on it, if anything? The police have never been open about the circumstances surrounding the cell phone. The other thing that often is used as an excuse for this being a one way, suicide trip is that he left his video camera at his home. It was found there when it was searched in the days after he was reported missing. However they did not find his other camera that he often took with him mostly for the purposes of taking still photos, so it is presumed he took that along. It was a Canon Rebel DSLR that in addition to taking quality high resolution stills can also take video. So if he was in need of taking video of something he came across then he would have been more than capable of doing so. Because he took this camera I don't think he went out to commit suicide. Although it could be argued that he was suicidal by nature by being reckless in the way he purposely was unsafe and refused to take precautions, making him always one small accident away from death. In the conditions in this region, any time of the year, an ankle injury or any immobilization, can result in death in a matter of days if not hours. The desert area is brutally quick in disposing of and dispersing the remains of those who die and are not found quickly. More so even than heavily wooded temperate regions. Even clothing is broken down and destroyed over time by the elements and harsh conditions. Plastics and metals are the most likely thing to survive and those can be taken as prizes by rats that love to carry those off to use in their nests. You will often see shiny objects used inside rat nests, everything from licence plates to aluminum cans. By this time the best hope of finding any of his remains is if he died in a hollow that would prevent his remains from being washed out. This would keep at least some of his bones in one location over time. KV is most likely the victim of his own overconfidence.
Interesting post. It seems odd to me that he would enter a cave unarmed-I mean earlier when he wasn't so depressed. There could be bears, cougars, coyotes or wolves in a cave. He just looks like a nice person so, to me, the suicide part is probably remote. As Bryan said, he may have come upon some bad people. I love these videos of Bryan's but they bother me because of people just disappearing. I think of how terrified they must have been when their last moment came.
@@jerrylee8261 Possible, but he did take his gun with him often and it was not found at his home so it was believed to be with him this time. The depression/suicide issue is debated as he didn't do a lot of the things people exhibiting suicidal ideation tend to in their final stages. This hypothesis is often questioned as his girlfriend is the only source of this and it was mentioned to her just once on a hiking trip several months before. So it may have been just him talking and not being too serious about it. As far as dangerous people go, a lot of people hike in the area, even more so since his disappearance as this mystery has quite a following. I have never heard of anyone having issues with any bad people out there. Nobody has reported having their vehicle broke into while hiking that I have heard of, etc. An animal attack is possible as there are cougars around. The terrain is very rough and he often went up and down through washes and he liked to get off the normal route people might take. In fact a lot of the trails marked there now are the trails people have mapped from his M-cave hike video, as they tried to recreate the hike and searched for him by locating landmarks from his video. So it is easy to see him get into a situation where he either fell and hit his head or broke a leg with the type of hiking he normally did. Although it has been well established that he likely wasn't hunting for his M-cave on this hike as he was planning a 3-day hike and the M-cave route is one he could traverse in several hours. Having left his cell phone at the well where he liked to start a lot of his hikes from he had no way to call for help, the sporadic service in the region might have made the use of it in an emergency moot anyway (this is within site of area 51 after all). His normal habit of minimal provisions would mean by the time they reported him missing he could have been exposed and unable to seek shelter for days.
@@socket_error1000 Tks for such an interesting reply. You are much closer to that area than I as I live in SC. It seems like a complicated way to commit suicide and well, kinda disrespectful to his loved ones.
@@jerrylee8261 Yeah, I agree. While suicidal people often don't think of others being concerned about them after the fact, all the things I have seen of him in his videos and heard of his behavior, it really didn't seem like he was at that point of suicide when he went missing.
@jerrylee8261 "nice" looking people commit suicide everyday. The kindest coworker I ever had, who looked kind, and was also kind and helpful and selfless...committed suicide when we were laid off without notice or reason and being strung alone about requalifying for our positions. Suicidal people don't have a one size fits all "look". You never know. Many are good at hiding their depression and Suicidal thoughts.
Hi Bryan, it was announced today that 3 almost mummified bodies were found in a remote campsite in the mountains of Colorado, two were found in a tent, the third in front of the tent, so far they don't know who they are, they think they either died of starvation or froze to death, just thought you'd like to know maybe for an upcoming video.
Yes jst heard this apparently it was an area away from the trails so remote but not crazy far. They think they have been there a year? Sounds weird 2 in the tent and 1 outside...
@@leahhuntz6236 I hope they can find who these people are, so far after going through missing people nothing matches, sorry to say but I hope they didn't die in a sinister way but by natural causes like a storm, hope they didn't starve to death, how did they get there? Did they hike there?
I understand that some followers bail on a creator, if they don't consistently upload. I however, watch evertything you post, regardless. I have seen this and other stories covered many times, but I always, Always learn more details about them when you cover them. You do a great job, and I at least, prefer quality to quantity. Thank you, and Keep it up. (I run Canadian Search and Rescue services, and not only do you do a great job, but you provide extremely helpful tips for your followers that could potentially save lives. Koodos.)
You sound so much stronger. The idea that he found a very distinctive cave, had a really powerful experience, and then was unable to find it again? I’ve found cool or interesting things on hikes and said to myself, “I’m coming back here.” Never have I had trouble finding my way back.
A guy having a RUclips channel went out there to look. He thinks he found the location. 1. The rocks one the side of the little valley way did not look wright. 2. The location made him sick. 3. The trip back to his vehicle was in the night. 4 he heard two different foot steps following him. Here is what I found on Google map pro where I believe he was at. First will be the parking area he parked. Second is where I believe he ended up at and everything went south for him. 36°30'36.27"N 115°18'25.59"W. 36°35'50.45"N 115°17'27.56"W. What I saw this guy went through. As. How the location made him so sick. I highly do not recommend anyone to go there.
That’s my theory. The whole M cave thing was a red herring. Kenny went out there somewhere he knew he wasn’t likely to be found and ended himself. The M cave, the “disappearance” and the area were calculated to create an artificial mystery. Kenny’s final gift to the world.
A lot of these missing hiker cases seem to point to suicide :( It makes sense to me that they would want to be out in our beautiful nature one last time.
@@mr.halloween87 Why would his phone be found and nothing else? Two reasons. Either it was planted by someone who either took him elsewhere and killed him, or Kenny himself dumped it to confuse the search and gin up the mystery
@@marktwain368 and that big, huge pile of rocks...that is considered sacred... And that guy that drives around the outback..driving a tow truck. " Wolf Creek". 😨
During the time of the Julian Sands search, there was a report of a female found in her camper in the snow. I can't find anymore info online about her and concerned that the prolific YTer hasn't posted anything on her social media accts since January. She was in that area. Does anyone know anything about the person that was found?
It almost happened to me on a hunting trip, slid sideways through some thick gallbarry bushes and almost stepped in an old well. Nobody would of found me.
I've been following the Kenny Veach case since it came out and my opinion is he staged his disappearance,because he was in debt ,and losing his house and his girl friend made strange postings but no answers or clues and she obviously was closest to him .
Mountain lions pumas are hungry out there's gun no gun makes no difference ! They must eat feed themselves !! So he gets hurts no waters out ,no maps good luck s with that !! ECT.
The trail is cold now. But as an experienced Solo extreamist I would reenforce the idea that he would be difficult to find if he wanted to disappear. I'm inclined to want to find out about the cave first. Something that wierd needs to be included in his disappearance. If it's a real cave he might have stumbled into a military secret.
Hopefully wherever Kenny is he is at peace. Please stop the negative comments about Kenny. He was trying to find his own way in this world just like all of us.
Is it possible that he never actually went out there on that last hike? Somebody else (his girlfriend or someone else) could have hiked out and left his cell phone in that spot where it was found. It's even possible that the extreme hiker himself was the person pretending to be his girlfriend and commenting. Was he trying to throw people off track to disappear to somewhere else? Or did someone "unalive" him and then post the comments to throw everyone off? No one on social media has to be who they say they are. Much of the internet is deception.
This terrain and landscape is frightening in its barren wasteland character. Only a few scrub bushes and clouds make it marginally different from Mars! Why would people go out there? That suggests a darkening mood or impulse that might put someone in harm's way. Thanks, Bryan, for throwing light on a dark mystery.
From what I know from his then girlfriend Kenny liked to push himself to his physical limits in an unhealthy way and he also said himself he lost up to 10lbs on such a trip and he was a slim guy. He also didn't take much water or food with him. He had mental issues and had masochistic tendencies. Just to go up there he needed to steeply go up for 2 hours at least, there wasn't a way to bring more water with him than he could carry. He really liked to gamble with his life. So that's why he kept returning to this area. I've seen a duo trying to hike around there and they said it was barbaric.
Brilliant analysis. I have never heard before any doubt cats on the 'girlfriend' comment. That is a *fascinating* angle. Minus 'her' input how much do we really know?
He found a cave off the beaten track and killed himself... He was depressed. I've survived with serious clinical depression for years an often have suicidal tendencies, and have attempted suicide a few times. The times when I thoughts about suicide I sometimes thought how it would be great to just disappear...loved ones have no idea what happened, and it'd be better than finding a a body hanging from a tree or squashed under a truck. The so-called "M-Cave" was just nonsense. I've been on forums and other internet places and argued with folks,an it's not surprising how many people came back at me with 'definite proof' statements, who claim that they are going to provide the proof...then they never post again. I think Kenny made a statement, doubled down when challenged, and went off to kill himself and create a mystery. There's NO evidence for the 'M-Cave' only Kenny's words it existed, I can't believe how low some people's burden of proof is! He also stated it was a perfect M shape - that should be easy to identify, yet many folks have looked for it and not found it. The phone was left for more mystery--perhaps to be people believing he went into the mineshaft--but also maybe he was paranoid(sometimes paranoia is partnered with depression, this I know from personal experience) and believed he could be tracked so left the phone behind.
OMG this case is fascinating, the vibrating m cave that shook and trembled his whole body. Ive watched every video about this subject including hours of people walking in the area, its absolutely fascinating. one troubling issue is, we don't really know whats real and whats not, not all the content on this man has been credible IMO.
The fact that Kenny couldn't find this 'so important' cave again - shows that he was Not this experienced hiker as he wanted to believe... Just a beginner.
I think that you are exactly right when you said that he probably wondered off the beaten path and just too close to the government owned reservation and they probably arrested and detained him for unknown reasons or some kind of trumped up charges !!! As having done been in the Military for alot of years and I can tell you from experience that the government if they really wanted too ; they can and do possess the ability to make you disappear if they really wanted too with no problem!!!!!!
Cave exploring is terrifying. I keep getting stuck on RUclips cave disasters and if he never left a cave wkthout entering it? I think he ended up in an explored one
Bryan, did you study this one? Just vanished in Vancouver, BC; nothing ever found. Nearly 30 years after the unsolved disappearance of a UBC student, University RCMP is extending its call for information from community members. Emerson Dobroskay, a then-21-year-old meteorology graduate student from Saskatoon, disappeared in the early morning of October 28, 1988. The evening before, he had been at the Pit Pub with his friends Dave, Jim and Mark. Dobroskay separated from the group and left the venue at 1 a.m. After failing to return to his dorm in Totem Park residence, University RCMP conducted a vast search of the area with a dog team and even a helicopter survey of the area. The RCMP also received tips from across the country and abroad, but they were never able to locate Dobroskay. At the time of his disappearance, he wore a brown pull-over sweater, a blue shirt, dark pants and dark suede shoes. He was then 5’7, 125 lbs with blue eyes and light brown curly hair.
Sorry to say this guy sounds like a risk taker, especially boasting about not taking safety camp items with him. Maybe this time around it cost him plenty.
I appreciate your videos. Please know your health is most important. I look forward to your posts but don’t expect you to have a routine schedule of sharing! Take care of yourself!
I hate to be a killjoy but I think it’s irresponsible to go out hiking, caving or whatever without all the proper supplies. Search and Rescue people have died while looking for hikers. I think he’s still alive personally, especially considering his girlfriend’s posts, with smiley emojis? Thanks Bryan, I love your channel
I’ve watched some RUclipsrs who have gone searching for Kenny. It struck me how nutty some of the theories about his disappearance are when one of the searchers who wasn’t a geologist was saying look how someone has moved this rock and closed up this cave! He swore this was the M cave. Honestly I never saw the M so it seemed like wishful thinking. I believe he either committed suicide or met a tragic accident. The dizziness that he and others have experienced it was likely a combination of altitude, dehydration and low electrolytes.
I'm surprised it took you this cover this. The common theory is he made himself disappear and the M Cave is a cover; someone who hikes that much in the desert can find an m shaped cave easily. I just hope they find him or his remains for his family's sake.
Godd video. I'm always curios as to how people just disapppear. There must be an explanation sometimes they're just gone. You sound better, take care of yourself, stay healthy
Did they question any of the people who goaded him on? It almost sounds like a setup. They knew where he'd be well ahead of time. If I were a predator of some sort, I can easily picture playing on someone's overconfidence/desire to show off like that in order to get them somewhere EXTREMELY remote like that.
That entire region has many bizarre stories associated with it. The fact that it's by a notorious Airforce Base is significant. One of the most strange and suspicious stories that I ever personally heard of, came from an enlisted man who was sent and stationed there briefly. I'm not going to go into details, but he and his squadron were actually ordered to do something "fun" during their downtime. However the few that refused to do so and parted ways with the group, coincidentally had a really bad accident and were severely and permanently injured. He was still fighting to get his full medical benefits several years later. 🙄
I've easily watched a hundred or more hours about the Kenny Veach disappearance. I have no way of knowing the truth about any of the videos. I recall that there were many days delay in reporting his disappearance. Strange inconsistencies seem to exist in some of the search results which the delay in starting the search might account for. There have been multiple people showing their hikes in that region and there are many places an unintentional fall would require remarkable fortune to locate the exact spot of a fatal fall. It is a Wildlife Management Area so no drones are allowed and no motor vehicles are allowed. In the case of " the Death Valley Germans" it was years before the remains of the two adults were located and the remains of the two children have never been found. My information is only from RUclips so there is a slight possibility of new information that I am unaware of. The complexity of the Kenny Veach disappearance is so great that it will probably remain unsolved which is very unfortunate.
I thought Kenny was living alone, and he & his Girlfriend had been broken up for quite some time- (according to many reports).🤔YT channel "Aquachigger" made several videos searching for Kenny. The Chiggers was very thorough, putting himself in the mindset of someone both seeking the "M" cave( and comparing landmarks from Kenny's videos), as well as the mindset of a severely depressed person; (where would THEY go to "off" themselves)? Several YT channels have recorded searches for Kenny. One common theme is how MANY caves are shaped like an "M". One last thought; could Kenny have been arrested/incarcerated by area 51 personnel? Did he find something he shouldn't have, or wander too far into off limits territory? Great video!
This story is so lost and embedded in internet legend that it is a waste of time to cover. Serious investigation needs to be done. That has not yet been done.
I wonder when he told people when he was going out to find the cave if someone followed him and did something to him. Someone who thought he was making it up or was jealous of him.
In his original RUclips video about the M Cave..one commenter warned him never to go back there! Or he'll NEVER come out again..😳 then he disappeared!! I'd like to know why that commenter said that,and what he knows..😏
Girlfriend certainly did exhibit strange behavior online. Regardless it seems to me that he did deliberately leave his cell phone, it’s the only logical explanation. And he did this because he didn’t intend to be found or intended to exist the area alive. If he wasn’t as enamored with the desert and that particular area I could entertain the possibility of him running of to start another life. He decided to end it all in a place he loved. Sad but he’s one of millions who have and will, including my first wife.
Given the preponderance of the evidence, I lean towards the suicide theory. Although at this point anything is possible, the evidence is definitely not conclusive.
I think most likely he had an accident in a mine or a cave. Hikers lose their phones all the time, it's not really evidence of anything other than he was there at some point.
I don't care how good you are or how good you think you are. You always go prepared!!
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I think he had a death wish.
No human can prepare to enter “ places with strong strange vibrations “
I don’t think Kenny was “running away” . He wrote - Help me.
I’m sure we will NEVER KNOW what happened to Kenny.
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This case really captures the imagination. I've followed it for several years and watched various videos that try to trace Kenny's steps. To those of us still here in this physical world, it just seems so compelling of a mystery when someone just simply disappears without a single trace.
It’s so sad that he hasn’t been found. It’s so scary how people can just disappear and never be seen again. You sound like you are feeling better. Take care:)
I'm a field Geologist and have worked extensively in the Mojave Desert. I know many places where I could completely "disappear" myself should I choose to do so. It's not difficult. Kenny would have also known how.
Yes , but Kenny wrote HELP ME. If he was “ on the run “ he wouldn’t be asking for help.
Some places on earth are sending strong strange vibes.
No gun can protect a human .
Stay away from these places. I don’t know what it is or why “bad places” exist.
Hello my friend. No apologies needed. Your true fans are ALWAYS here.
I've seen many videos over the years on this case. Of course I love yours, and brought some new things to my attention. I read a lot of the comments and people seem to think he committed suicide, but maybe we'll never really know. Thank you as always for your work!
The shame about the extreme hiker leads others to take extreme chances. Always hike with due caution.
Aquachigger made several videos, trying to find the M cave and explore the area. He thought he found the cave, because in it was a sign that said either "No trespassing" or "Area 51" - I can't remember which one it said. It is sad, and I believe he committed suicide. And, living in NM, I highly disagree with anyone who hikes with the intent to take chances. I stopped watching one channel that I liked because the couple went off trail in a desert. No one should encourage others to do that.
The strange thing is that he recorded all his worth looking at stuff but forgot to even take a picture of the cave..on the other hand you do not lie about a cave that makes your body vibrate..
Yes all very strange 🤷♂️ who knows what happened out in that desert. Just unbelievable
What a convoluted situation. I don't know how you kept pace with this Bryan,so many variables.
How are you doing Bryan , you certainly sound in your voice a lot better !
Bryan, it's GREAT to hear you sounding stronger. 🙂
There are facts about this that are both unclear and not often considered. One is the condition and circumstances of his cell phone when found near the mine. Was it just left as if just set down, or did it look as if it had fallen or been dropped by accident? We also don't know what was on it, if anything? The police have never been open about the circumstances surrounding the cell phone.
The other thing that often is used as an excuse for this being a one way, suicide trip is that he left his video camera at his home. It was found there when it was searched in the days after he was reported missing. However they did not find his other camera that he often took with him mostly for the purposes of taking still photos, so it is presumed he took that along. It was a Canon Rebel DSLR that in addition to taking quality high resolution stills can also take video. So if he was in need of taking video of something he came across then he would have been more than capable of doing so.
Because he took this camera I don't think he went out to commit suicide. Although it could be argued that he was suicidal by nature by being reckless in the way he purposely was unsafe and refused to take precautions, making him always one small accident away from death. In the conditions in this region, any time of the year, an ankle injury or any immobilization, can result in death in a matter of days if not hours.
The desert area is brutally quick in disposing of and dispersing the remains of those who die and are not found quickly. More so even than heavily wooded temperate regions. Even clothing is broken down and destroyed over time by the elements and harsh conditions. Plastics and metals are the most likely thing to survive and those can be taken as prizes by rats that love to carry those off to use in their nests. You will often see shiny objects used inside rat nests, everything from licence plates to aluminum cans.
By this time the best hope of finding any of his remains is if he died in a hollow that would prevent his remains from being washed out. This would keep at least some of his bones in one location over time. KV is most likely the victim of his own overconfidence.
Interesting post. It seems odd to me that he would enter a cave unarmed-I mean earlier when he wasn't so depressed. There could be bears, cougars, coyotes or wolves in a cave. He just looks like a nice person so, to me, the suicide part is probably remote. As Bryan said, he may have come upon some bad people. I love these videos of Bryan's but they bother me because of people just disappearing. I think of how terrified they must have been when their last moment came.
@@jerrylee8261 Possible, but he did take his gun with him often and it was not found at his home so it was believed to be with him this time. The depression/suicide issue is debated as he didn't do a lot of the things people exhibiting suicidal ideation tend to in their final stages. This hypothesis is often questioned as his girlfriend is the only source of this and it was mentioned to her just once on a hiking trip several months before. So it may have been just him talking and not being too serious about it.
As far as dangerous people go, a lot of people hike in the area, even more so since his disappearance as this mystery has quite a following. I have never heard of anyone having issues with any bad people out there. Nobody has reported having their vehicle broke into while hiking that I have heard of, etc.
An animal attack is possible as there are cougars around.
The terrain is very rough and he often went up and down through washes and he liked to get off the normal route people might take.
In fact a lot of the trails marked there now are the trails people have mapped from his M-cave hike video, as they tried to recreate the hike and searched for him by locating landmarks from his video.
So it is easy to see him get into a situation where he either fell and hit his head or broke a leg with the type of hiking he normally did. Although it has been well established that he likely wasn't hunting for his M-cave on this hike as he was planning a 3-day hike and the M-cave route is one he could traverse in several hours.
Having left his cell phone at the well where he liked to start a lot of his hikes from he had no way to call for help, the sporadic service in the region might have made the use of it in an emergency moot anyway (this is within site of area 51 after all). His normal habit of minimal provisions would mean by the time they reported him missing he could have been exposed and unable to seek shelter for days.
@@socket_error1000 Tks for such an interesting reply. You are much closer to that area than I as I live in SC. It seems like a complicated way to commit suicide and well, kinda disrespectful to his loved ones.
@@jerrylee8261 Yeah, I agree. While suicidal people often don't think of others being concerned about them after the fact, all the things I have seen of him in his videos and heard of his behavior, it really didn't seem like he was at that point of suicide when he went missing.
@jerrylee8261 "nice" looking people commit suicide everyday. The kindest coworker I ever had, who looked kind, and was also kind and helpful and selfless...committed suicide when we were laid off without notice or reason and being strung alone about requalifying for our positions. Suicidal people don't have a one size fits all "look". You never know. Many are good at hiding their depression and Suicidal thoughts.
Hi Bryan, it was announced today that 3 almost mummified bodies were found in a remote campsite in the mountains of Colorado, two were found in a tent, the third in front of the tent, so far they don't know who they are, they think they either died of starvation or froze to death, just thought you'd like to know maybe for an upcoming video.
Yes jst heard this apparently it was an area away from the trails so remote but not crazy far. They think they have been there a year? Sounds weird 2 in the tent and 1 outside...
@@leahhuntz6236 I hope they can find who these people are, so far after going through missing people nothing matches, sorry to say but I hope they didn't die in a sinister way but by natural causes like a storm, hope they didn't starve to death, how did they get there? Did they hike there?
They found out who they were they were trying off grid living. Sad.
mummified???
@@janblackkat7607could you give me any other details so I can look this up? Thanks in advance
I understand that some followers bail on a creator, if they don't consistently upload. I however, watch evertything you post, regardless. I have seen this and other stories covered many times, but I always, Always learn more details about them when you cover them. You do a great job, and I at least, prefer quality to quantity. Thank you, and Keep it up. (I run Canadian Search and Rescue services, and not only do you do a great job, but you provide extremely helpful tips for your followers that could potentially save lives. Koodos.)
You sound so much stronger.
The idea that he found a very distinctive cave, had a really powerful experience, and then was unable to find it again? I’ve found cool or interesting things on hikes and said to myself, “I’m coming back here.” Never have I had trouble finding my way back.
I don't doubt that he could have trouble finding a place in that kind of environment, it happens to anybody that spends much time out there.
A guy having a RUclips channel went out there to look. He thinks he found the location. 1. The rocks one the side of the little valley way did not look wright. 2. The location made him sick. 3. The trip back to his vehicle was in the night. 4 he heard two different foot steps following him. Here is what I found on Google map pro where I believe he was at. First will be the parking area he parked. Second is where I believe he ended up at and everything went south for him. 36°30'36.27"N 115°18'25.59"W. 36°35'50.45"N 115°17'27.56"W. What I saw this guy went through. As. How the location made him so sick. I highly do not recommend anyone to go there.
Depressed, extreme hiking and exploring caves? Kenny would know where to be lost and not found. Get well
That’s my theory. The whole M cave thing was a red herring. Kenny went out there somewhere he knew he wasn’t likely to be found and ended himself. The M cave, the “disappearance” and the area were calculated to create an artificial mystery. Kenny’s final gift to the world.
@@ThatGuy182545 like finding his phone. Looking for him there instead of elsewhere.
A lot of these missing hiker cases seem to point to suicide :( It makes sense to me that they would want to be out in our beautiful nature one last time.
@@mr.halloween87 Why would his phone be found and nothing else?
Two reasons. Either it was planted by someone who either took him elsewhere and killed him, or Kenny himself dumped it to confuse the search and gin up the mystery
@@ThatGuy182545 Kenny planted it. I would not want anyone to find me!
An extremely sad case Bryan....but depression mixed with being alone out in the desert....I don't think he ever meant to make it out of that desert.
Summed it up nicely.
Exactly how I see it!
Good to have you back Bryan!
You sound better!❤
Some people disappear in mine shafts in Australia near Cooperpeady, opal mining area.
Lots of spooky places in Aus: the Olgas, Hanging Rock, the Outback as it really is. An ancient and mysterious land of many secrets.
@@marktwain368 and that big, huge pile of rocks...that is considered sacred... And that guy that drives around the outback..driving a tow truck. " Wolf Creek". 😨
@@thegreencat9947 Mick Taylor
in Cooper peedy its easy to end up as someone's rape puppet underground
@@marktwain368 hanging Rock, now that is an interesting one. Just how did those girls disappear without a trace?
During the time of the Julian Sands search, there was a report of a female found in her camper in the snow. I can't find anymore info online about her and concerned that the prolific YTer hasn't posted anything on her social media accts since January. She was in that area.
Does anyone know anything about the person that was found?
I think he fell down a mine shaft; there’s 100’s of shafts. Some can be covered up with shrubs and can easily mistaken for solid ground
It almost happened to me on a hunting trip, slid sideways through some thick gallbarry bushes and almost stepped in an old well. Nobody would of found me.
Love your voice ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I've been following the Kenny Veach case since it came out and my opinion is he staged his disappearance,because he was in debt ,and losing his house and his girl friend made strange postings but no answers or clues and she obviously was closest to him .
Thankful to hear you sound so much better!!
Mountain lions pumas are hungry out there's gun no gun makes no difference ! They must eat feed themselves !! So he gets hurts no waters out ,no maps good luck s with that !! ECT.
The trail is cold now. But as an experienced Solo extreamist I would reenforce the idea that he would be difficult to find if he wanted to disappear. I'm inclined to want to find out about the cave first. Something that wierd needs to be included in his disappearance. If it's a real cave he might have stumbled into a military secret.
I believe him! Sad that he vanished. 😪
Hopefully wherever Kenny is he is at peace. Please stop the negative comments about Kenny. He was trying to find his own way in this world just like all of us.
Thanks Bryan
Bryan, you sound great! I love your videos! Keep up the great work. :)
Is it possible that he never actually went out there on that last hike? Somebody else (his girlfriend or someone else) could have hiked out and left his cell phone in that spot where it was found. It's even possible that the extreme hiker himself was the person pretending to be his girlfriend and commenting. Was he trying to throw people off track to disappear to somewhere else? Or did someone "unalive" him and then post the comments to throw everyone off? No one on social media has to be who they say they are. Much of the internet is deception.
Hey Bryan!!! You sound great!! Yay!❤❤See we are still here!!!
This terrain and landscape is frightening in its barren wasteland character. Only a few scrub bushes and clouds make it marginally different from Mars! Why would people go out there? That suggests a darkening mood or impulse that might put someone in harm's way. Thanks, Bryan, for throwing light on a dark mystery.
Some people like the desert. Its very quiet and peaceful sometimes. Sundown and night time is beautiful in the desert.
From what I know from his then girlfriend Kenny liked to push himself to his physical limits in an unhealthy way and he also said himself he lost up to 10lbs on such a trip and he was a slim guy. He also didn't take much water or food with him. He had mental issues and had masochistic tendencies. Just to go up there he needed to steeply go up for 2 hours at least, there wasn't a way to bring more water with him than he could carry. He really liked to gamble with his life. So that's why he kept returning to this area. I've seen a duo trying to hike around there and they said it was barbaric.
When I moved to Arizona 40 years ago I thought the desert seemed hostile. I still do, but now I also see it's otherworldly beauty.
Brilliant analysis. I have never heard before any doubt cats on the 'girlfriend' comment. That is a *fascinating* angle. Minus 'her' input how much do we really know?
He found a cave off the beaten track and killed himself...
He was depressed. I've survived with serious clinical depression for years an often have suicidal tendencies, and have attempted suicide a few times. The times when I thoughts about suicide I sometimes thought how it would be great to just disappear...loved ones have no idea what happened, and it'd be better than finding a a body hanging from a tree or squashed under a truck.
The so-called "M-Cave" was just nonsense. I've been on forums and other internet places and argued with folks,an it's not surprising how many people came back at me with 'definite proof' statements, who claim that they are going to provide the proof...then they never post again. I think Kenny made a statement, doubled down when challenged, and went off to kill himself and create a mystery.
There's NO evidence for the 'M-Cave' only Kenny's words it existed, I can't believe how low some people's burden of proof is! He also stated it was a perfect M shape - that should be easy to identify, yet many folks have looked for it and not found it.
The phone was left for more mystery--perhaps to be people believing he went into the mineshaft--but also maybe he was paranoid(sometimes paranoia is partnered with depression, this I know from personal experience) and believed he could be tracked so left the phone behind.
OMG this case is fascinating, the vibrating m cave that shook and trembled his whole body. Ive watched every video about this subject including hours of people walking in the area, its absolutely fascinating. one troubling issue is, we don't really know whats real and whats not, not all the content on this man has been credible IMO.
The fact that Kenny couldn't find this 'so important' cave again - shows that he was Not this experienced hiker as he wanted to believe... Just a beginner.
You sound much better! Thanks for everything you do!
I think that you are exactly right when you said that he probably wondered off the beaten path and just too close to the government owned reservation and they probably arrested and detained him for unknown reasons or some kind of trumped up charges !!! As having done been in the Military for alot of years and I can tell you from experience that the government if they really wanted too ; they can and do possess the ability to make you disappear if they really wanted too with no problem!!!!!!
I remember hearing about this case...thank you for bringing it back to memory
You sound stronger Bryan ❤ Take care and thank you for sharing this.
Cave exploring is terrifying. I keep getting stuck on RUclips cave disasters and if he never left a cave wkthout entering it? I think he ended up in an explored one
If you want to read Sheryon's comment it is on the M cave hike video made by Kenny eight years ago.
I left the info on the description as well. Thank you for watching and you comment!
Wow. What an interesting story. It never ceases to amaze me that people disappear like that without a trace…like, poof, gone. 😮😢
Really not too hard when that is what you want.
you're sounding a lot better today Bryan!
Bryan, did you study this one? Just vanished in Vancouver, BC; nothing ever found.
Nearly 30 years after the unsolved disappearance of a UBC student, University RCMP is extending its call for information from community members.
Emerson Dobroskay, a then-21-year-old meteorology graduate student from Saskatoon, disappeared in the early morning of October 28, 1988.
The evening before, he had been at the Pit Pub with his friends Dave, Jim and Mark. Dobroskay separated from the group and left the venue at 1 a.m.
After failing to return to his dorm in Totem Park residence, University RCMP conducted a vast search of the area with a dog team and even a helicopter survey of the area. The RCMP also received tips from across the country and abroad, but they were never able to locate Dobroskay.
At the time of his disappearance, he wore a brown pull-over sweater, a blue shirt, dark pants and dark suede shoes. He was then 5’7, 125 lbs with blue eyes and light brown curly hair.
I pray that she is found......this is tragic.
You’re sounding stronger and healthier. ❤
Sorry to say this guy sounds like a risk taker, especially boasting about not taking safety camp items with him. Maybe this time around it cost him plenty.
Very Strange 🤔
I used to watch his channel. I liked him. I was just like OMG I hope he's found
Just shows how à nasty comment can harm someone.
I appreciate your videos. Please know your health is most important. I look forward to your posts but don’t expect you to have a routine schedule of sharing! Take care of yourself!
Thanks
I hate to be a killjoy but I think it’s irresponsible to go out hiking, caving or whatever without all the proper supplies. Search and Rescue people have died while looking for hikers.
I think he’s still alive personally, especially considering his girlfriend’s posts, with smiley emojis?
Thanks Bryan, I love your channel
This channel is great
It's a mystery. His girlfriend was almost vague. I dont feel he committed suicide.
This is a typical 411 disappearance case. No body, no belongings, just a cell-phone.
They never said if the searched the shaft they found his phone at..
I’ve watched some RUclipsrs who have gone searching for Kenny. It struck me how nutty some of the theories about his disappearance are when one of the searchers who wasn’t a geologist was saying look how someone has moved this rock and closed up this cave! He swore this was the M cave. Honestly I never saw the M so it seemed like wishful thinking. I believe he either committed suicide or met a tragic accident. The dizziness that he and others have experienced it was likely a combination of altitude, dehydration and low electrolytes.
and/or nasty gases that can come out of caves or underground openings.
Well, if He was depressed and wanted to disappear, most people people usually get over it and would rather be depressed than some alone ...forever
I'm surprised it took you this cover this. The common theory is he made himself disappear and the M Cave is a cover; someone who hikes that much in the desert can find an m shaped cave easily. I just hope they find him or his remains for his family's sake.
Bryan is a dashing man with much bravado!
Godd video. I'm always curios as to how people just disapppear. There must be an explanation sometimes they're just gone.
You sound better, take care of yourself, stay healthy
Did they question any of the people who goaded him on? It almost sounds like a setup. They knew where he'd be well ahead of time. If I were a predator of some sort, I can easily picture playing on someone's overconfidence/desire to show off like that in order to get them somewhere EXTREMELY remote like that.
My best guess is he either got bit by a venomous snake, fell into a different abandoned mine shift, got trapped in a collapsed cave.
I met an extreme hiker on the PCT trail this year, dude was not ready for any type of emergency
I think he found that cave again and the deros got him
We'll probably see this on an episode of Buried in the Backyard one day.
You sound as though you feel better, love the video s, take care of yourself.
I feel we should all have some sort of tracker; either a device we hook on to our clothes or a phone application. Something with a long battery life.
That entire region has many bizarre stories associated with it. The fact that it's by a notorious Airforce Base is significant. One of the most strange and suspicious stories that I ever personally heard of, came from an enlisted man who was sent and stationed there briefly. I'm not going to go into details, but he and his squadron were actually ordered to do something "fun" during their downtime. However the few that refused to do so and parted ways with the group, coincidentally had a really bad accident and were severely and permanently injured. He was still fighting to get his full medical benefits several years later. 🙄
Every time you say " HEY, everyone" I jump....😃
Where can I find this musical tune..
Proves the old wisdom. Less said the better. 👂👂👂👂
Thank you.
This guy was a few french fries 🍟 short of a happy meal.😮
I've easily watched a hundred or more hours about the Kenny Veach disappearance. I have no way of knowing the truth about any of the videos. I recall that there were many days delay in reporting his disappearance. Strange inconsistencies seem to exist in some of the search results which the delay in starting the search might account for. There have been multiple people showing their hikes in that region and there are many places an unintentional fall would require remarkable fortune to locate the exact spot of a fatal fall. It is a Wildlife Management Area so no drones are allowed and no motor vehicles are allowed.
In the case of " the Death Valley Germans" it was years before the remains of the two adults were located and the remains of the two children have never been found. My information is only from RUclips so there is a slight possibility of new information that I am unaware of.
The complexity of the Kenny Veach disappearance is so great that it will probably remain unsolved which is very unfortunate.
People do strange things if they are mentally confused including leaving objects in random places.
kenny probably homeless on streets now he just checked out with help
Shame on the people who egged him on and didn't believe him.
There are probably many open vertical mine shafts. He could have jumped into or fell into a shaft. That’s all it would take to disappear completely
I thought Kenny was living alone, and he & his Girlfriend had been broken up for quite some time- (according to many reports).🤔YT channel "Aquachigger" made several videos searching for Kenny. The Chiggers was very thorough, putting himself in the mindset of someone both seeking the "M" cave( and comparing landmarks from Kenny's videos), as well as the mindset of a severely depressed person; (where would THEY go to "off" themselves)? Several YT channels have recorded searches for Kenny. One common theme is how MANY caves are shaped like an "M". One last thought; could Kenny have been arrested/incarcerated by area 51 personnel? Did he find something he shouldn't have, or wander too far into off limits territory? Great video!
My thots exactly- the military is fierce when it comes to Area 51!!!
Never bought into that being a real girlfriend.
I think he strayed and _the Man_ got to him.
This story is so lost and embedded in internet legend that it is a waste of time to cover. Serious investigation needs to be done. That has not yet been done.
I wonder when he told people when he was going out to find the cave if someone followed him and did something to him. Someone who thought he was making it up or was jealous of him.
Hmmm… is the “girlfriend” actually Kenny?
Part of the fault is Kenny's... Part of it is all the people who goaded him and egged him on to go 'out there'. God Sees.
In his original RUclips video about the M Cave..one commenter warned him never to go back there! Or he'll NEVER come out again..😳 then he disappeared!! I'd like to know why that commenter said that,and what he knows..😏
I believe so
Ask a native American they've a reason why they don't go in certain areas .
Looking for the M....like all those in the movie....looking for the W.
Girlfriend certainly did exhibit strange behavior online. Regardless it seems to me that he did deliberately leave his cell phone, it’s the only logical explanation. And he did this because he didn’t intend to be found or intended to exist the area alive. If he wasn’t as enamored with the desert and that particular area I could entertain the possibility of him running of to start another life. He decided to end it all in a place he loved. Sad but he’s one of millions who have and will, including my first wife.
Maybe he found the M cave & entered it...
if only he would have left a trail of Reese's Pieces.
Faked his disappearance. Lives in Costa Rica now. 🤔
The mine where his phone was found has a collapsed collar. What is under that wreckage?
Given the preponderance of the evidence, I lean towards the suicide theory. Although at this point anything is possible, the evidence is definitely not conclusive.
Extremist hiker 1. US taxpayers 0.
I think most likely he had an accident in a mine or a cave. Hikers lose their phones all the time, it's not really evidence of anything other than he was there at some point.
Did Kenny have life insurance? And was this lady the beneficiary?
You sound perkier.
Same ducks given for Kenny as the 5 on the sub.