Time Team S11-E12 Roxburgh,.Scotland
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2013
- Five hundred years ago, a major city occupied what is now a large and empty field in the Scottish Borders.
Founded by a king as a hub for international trade, Roxburgh was, along with Edinburgh, Stirling and Berwick, one of the four great centres of medieval Scotland.
But while the other three became thriving cities, Roxburgh simply vanished. There are plenty of documents but only a ruined castle remains as a clue to the town's layout.
It has lain untouched since its final decline in the 16th century - now Tony and the Team have a unique chance to uncover whatever remains under the pasture.
One of my favourite episodes. Has it all. Geophysics, aerial, landscape, digging, pinpoint trench decision making, historical documents, deduction. Roads, church, houses, residents, burials, defences, dateable finds, and even a medieval market!! Magical.
A true showcase if the talent that this team had.
Ahhh, Professor Mick's sweater. I hope it's in a museum somewhere so I can go see one day.
...next to Phil's hat
I’d guess in the University where he was attached to
Jigger2361 Phil is still out there, wearing those old hats and making videos. ruclips.net/video/5wNFPW0SWqk/видео.html
His jumper was at the Somerset museum in Taunton 😊
When I first saw him in this episode I literally said, out loud, “oh nooo Mick! Where are your stripey clothes?!?!”
Thank goodness I’m retired so I can spend days watching these and learn so much.
When Stewart is highlighted in this programme it's wise to listen...he's very rarely proved wrong....nobody reads a landscape like he does...
When I first started watching this two years ago a guy on YT told me to listen to Stewart and that he's almost never wrong. Definitely the guy to watch in this series.
I wouldn't say he's never wrong, i'd say he's an excellent read of land and is very through and unwilling to hedge his bets on fairy tales.
i think nothing can beat or is better than years and years of experience. sometimes one just needs to look at something and can say it is,it can be, it could be or it is not.
Yea he's the goat
He would've been a kickass commander in the past
In a strange twist of fate I ended up working for the current (2020) Duke of Roxburgh and whilst doing research on my family tree, more specifically my mother's side(Scottish) turns out that 500yrs ago my 12th Great Grandfather was actually the elder son of what would have been the Duke of Roxburgh he was murdered by his younger brother and he took the Dukedom and the rest, as they say, is history and fate.
Nice. It's great that you can trace your family back that far!
I'd like to add a comment from now-2018. I love watching these shows. I get to love each person and their specialty.
Yes, they are wonderful. In the process of trying to watch them all
Nice to know I'm not the only current viewer.
I'm watching the series again in 2018 as well, third time in 5 years...
@@JayWalkerTexasRadio Same, 3rd time in 5 yrs as well. Funny thing is that because there is so much information in TT, I didn't even remember anything about this episode. It was like I was watching it for the first time.
I'm going through them for the first time in 2019. What a pleasure, too. Great television.
This is rock & roll amongst archeaology
Tony: "But dark forces are at work, in the form of Stewart Ainsworth"
And he's usually right!
Love this show! I would like to see a seminar with Stuart on the methods he uses to observe the landscape and read what is beneath.
I ran across a video like that last year. Just search on RUclips for him.
One of the most fascinating episodes of the programme, for me personally. :-) An old favourite of mine.
I agree. Excellent!
Steward is cool, with Phil my favorite person
Wild Woody same. I love Phil
The year is 2018 going into 2019, drones and new high tech equipment will change so much.
This was an excellent series.
Yes, it will be wonderful to see how technology will be applied in Archaeology.
People should join together and demand a "Time team 2" to come back to this site and at least geophys the whole area !
2020 now we have the mid evil plague return!
Rhonda Smith “Bring out your dead!”
It is now late 2020, and advances in techniques for sequencing ancient DNA have made huge advances in both archaeology and anthropology. Also, a drought that hit the British Isles turned up all sorts of evidence of ancient settlements and assorted types of tombs.
Loving all these episodes...thanks so much for sharing them!Cheers!
At the 6:02 mark it looks like Mick has his leg thrown over Tony's. I laughed so hard!😂
they're all fun to watch for me
This is quality programme-making (barring the largely artificial three-day deadline), which is increasingly rare.
Reijer, thank you so much for sharing.
I read somewhere that the three day deadline was due to the professors and archaeologists tending to their day jobs at universities during the week.
Yeah, most of the people involved had day jobs, so this was something they did over long weekends.
One of my favorite episodes!
I would have thought that another really intriguing dig would have been where The Bruce spent his last years, the Manor of Cardross.
It is surprising that so little is recorded of a such a special place.
love this show. thank you for posting it
43.00-43.08 might be the funniest moment in the entire series! I want that edited out and looped forever.
Lols, yes!
My ancestors were from here (Roxburgh) in the 12-16th Centuries and so found it interesting. There was also a (Roxburgh) palace or Castle built on high ground that had little left due to the turbulent Border history. I remember that a Scottish King helped to physically build that according to The University of British Columbia books I read.
I'm of the same line, Robert.
The Royal Castle was built by King David. And the town was never rebuilt after King James II of Scotland was killed besieging it and it was destroyed.
Stewart's got the best job.
And he's so good at it!
I like that Phil. He should have played Dr. Who!
Oh, yes! That would have been brilliant!!
Phil as Dr. Who; that would be a hoot and a half (and may have gotten me interested in the whole Dr Who series).
"Look out, Doctor! The cybermen are in your trench!!..."
"Oh-argh, jigger...Niomi, chuck us tha' mesolithic hand axe- No, the axe there! Not the paleolithic hide-scraper, the one with the beautifully re-worked cutting edge. Wheeey, tha's it alright, lovely bit o'stone that, could go in my garden tha'..."
Sorry, but that'd never work. Phil would get so caught up in excavations that he'd never notice that the Daleks had overrun the entire universe. It's much like the difference between Ford Prefect and The Doctor: given the choice between a really smashing party and saving the universe, Ford would always choose the party, while The Doctor would always choose saving the universe. And Phil would always choose the trench.
Hasn’t anybody noticed the resemblance between Stewart Ainsworth and the Dr. Who with the similar accent, the one who said, “Every planet has a North”. But Stuart is quieter and less excitable.
Poor carenza,, I felt so horrible hearing about what she went through!
What happened?
@@daylight8208 they miss diagnosed breast cancer and put her through a double mastectomy and she didn't have breast cancer
Omg I love her
What a sweet woman and to be misdiagnosed and mistreated like that how horrible
Apparently, she wasn't the only woman the doctor misdiagnosed.
I love this show and I have watched quite a few episodes now. Has anyone ells noticed that the host is always running around? Hes like the rabbit from Alice In Wonderland hahaha
+rebecah clifton that's all he does is walk and talk on his other show
by the way I love this program
@@waderone3536 I love it DESPITE the host...
I admire his planning for his intros and segues and aerial shots. If you pay attention, you can tell where things were shot twice or more from different angles, requiring planning. He's also pretty good at asking pointed questions.
@@Nangleator22 +1 and his english speaking is perfectly understandable for foreigners...
I love Micks homemade sweater. So does he. He wears it a lot.
He hated it, the show made him wear it.
Oh.
@@scarletfluerr Not really. The producers asked him to wear brighter colors so he could be easily identified. He wore the sweater to be over the top on their request for color...but instead of them hating it, they loved it and it became his trademark.
@@nevyen149 So much so that fans sent him colourful sweaters they'd knitted for him.
Any experienced gardener will tell you that where you find a heavy concentration of stinging nettles you find human activity and disturbance
Got a family tree of Sims family that lived in Roxborough in that time. They were grandkids of bueth chieflain.
Robert sims my 25th great grandfather.
“But dark forces are at work in the shape of Stewart Ainsworth.” Lol! 😂😂😂
I am begining to notice john's attitude more during these episodes. Yeah it's a pain but gosh that is why you are there. It's such a mystery until uncovered & they need you to help hitting best targets. "Nettles"?????
You do get the impression that of all the team members, he would be the easiest to upset
Have you ever had to walk back and forth for over an hour through nettles?
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@@aylbdrmadison1051 I had to pluck them for two hours.
I also think John is keeping an eye on all the work he and his team have to do. On top of the geophys he's also dealing with his own team of people.
Besides, I think that's just how John gets through a working day. Some people just thrive on complaining; they can't help it.
I happen to like John a lot. Yes, he complains quite a bit, but he does get the work done.
This is one of my favorite episodes, right behind the one where they found the sword under the barbed wire.
Oooo which one was that? I’ve been BINGING so all the episodes have started running together 😅
@@annarushlau9722 Tracked it down: ruclips.net/video/RkP7Z8U9BEA/видео.html
2021 watching! Love this show.
The girl with the magenta hair makes Roxburgh stand up and pay attention!
Thumbs up for personality!
Yes, very striking! Coming soon after Dr. Roberts and Dr. Butterworth, I wonder how many young men decided to go into archaeology for non-archaeological reasons after watching Time Team.
first episode iv seen them work the numbers so they continue a trench. heh. pill is my hero. cheers.
28:10 "This is what I love about male archaeologists. They come into the trench to help and then they just stand there with a shovel and watch the machine!" Ouch... lol.
Nothing is quite as ugly as a feminist's sexist whining.
More likely looking your curves, Bridge!
@behindthetrees. kindly take your misandrist sexist BS elsewhere!
Love watching John and Stewart ("dark forces at work"! LOL!) work together to ferret out the information needed via entirely different methods. They're both so diligent and professional. Love how Tony makes a point to ask the experts to explain things that viewers might not know without making it obvious. Great job! (And Mick and His Sweater - you just can't get better than that!)
But...*sigh*...I have yet to understand the point behind not being allowed to (carefully and diligently) archaeologically explore and document "scheduled ancient monument" sites much more fully especially when particular trenches prove extremely informative. It seems to my admittedly uneducated eye (that doesn't understand applying artificial limits to the dutiful and careful acquisition of information) that TPTB would rather those sites continue to degrade (erosion, vine and other plant life damage to structures above and below ground, rocks 'rotting' - something I'd never heard of until watching relevant Time Team episodes, underground animal/water incursions, stone/grave robbers, etc etc etc) than "risk" exploring, documenting, and preserving them more fully. It's almost as though TPTB are afraid of what they'd find! I guess I'm just flummoxed by the purposeful hiding (via not allowing exploration at all or by imposing artificial limits on actual digging regardless of how informative the particular dig site is) of information while allowing sites to continue degrading over time. It's just...frustrating.
Underground archaeological remains are generally fairly stable on most sites. If a Scheduled site is found to be under threat through changing conditions then excavation is often undertaken to preserve by record what might be lost.
One of the points of preserving stable sites is that, as the evolution of Time Team itself shows, archaeological technology and science advances rapidly. If you excavate a large proportion of a site now, you will understand less than if it was excavated several years in the future. Of course, this means for a stable site there is never a 'right' time so excavations that do take place tend to be small in scale and have very focused objectives.
I don't think anyone is 'hiding' anything about this site, they are just reluctant to destroy a large part of one that is very important and will undoubtedly reveal more to future archaeologists than at the current moment.
@@georgedorn1022 Thank you for taking the time to reply. Like you mentioned, I've enjoyed seeing the advances in the technology used and know that the future will likely bring even better ways of exploring the past while preserving even more of it. It's just...yeah, frustrating knowing that wonderful wonders of the past are RIGHT THERE but can't be explored because of artificial (read: paperwork) restrictions. The flip-side of that coin, though, is the hope that future tech. will provide even better ways of excavating those finds currently marked "explore later". Impatience is not a virtue!
If you like this episode, give a quick shout out to Richard, Duke of Gloucester (King Richard III) for it was he who led the seizure of Berwick upon Tweed and won it back for England in 1482. If not for him, Phil and the team would have had nothing to dig. Do not think he meant to kill Roxburgh though, big oops on his part.
I wonder what marvelous toys John has these days.
It seems almost impossible. A major town, city having completely disappeared under meadows.
Makes you wonder what parts of our cities will look like in 400-500 years. Its interesting to look at places like Chernobyl, thats only been a few years and its already being reclaimed by the wild.
I'm always trying to figure out what it was like for the last person to just walk away from this or that castle, town, church, etc.
@@Nangleator22 It probably wasn't as peacefull as today... Imagine an entire (small) city mainly made of wooden houses catching fire and beeing raided by greedy soldiers !
After the Brexit whole England will completely disapear under meadows...
@@Nangleator22 One thing I have wondered about. What would a certain street you know look like at the end of time?
Alternate reality, Tony just driving down a busy modern street full of cars in the city of Roxburgh, but in this reality, due to the booming textiles industry of the 19th century, it expanded 5 fold, to engulf Kelso. It has a top division footie team, known as ‘Roxburgh and Kelso United’. And is the only major city between Newcastle and Edinburgh, people commute to the city using the M68R. It’s one of Scotland most important trader city’s so has attracted a lot of global businesses to set up in the area, and has in turn made the borders quite a wealthy area to live. But, this never happened, and it’s just a boring old field. 🙂
This show is badass
Love that Tony gets a chance to dig with the team. Missing Robin...funny, they did not do any memorial for Robin Bush...
Kay Brae is here:
55.597499°N 2.448431°W
Always listen to Stewart.
Thanks.
Ohhh arrrr Tony I do love a big dig! Stone the crows read it properly
Holy cow, what did they spike Matt's coffee with? He was talking in fast forward.
And that expert! 😂😂 "um um ahh umm"
Are they grasping at straws with that last slab supporting a single grave? It looks like 2 very complete separate slabs?
got to love that baldric (Black Adder)
What's the episode where their stuff goes missing, and Phil says, "Where ever I go, my shovel goes Tony!"
Season 8 Episode 8
@@Libbathegreat Thanks
Can we show some acknowledgement for Ian (field archaeologist) who can operate a digger with such precision?!
A great shout out to Ian , the elder and Ian the younger. Both are magicians when operating the JCB. As a heavy operator skinning about 2 inches of soil, evenly is very, very difficult. I certainly can't do. Hats off to the Ian's.
A great shout out to Ian , the elder and Ian the younger. Both are magicians when operating the JCB. As a heavy operator skinning about 2 inches of soil, evenly is very, very difficult. I certainly can't do. Hats off to the Ian's.
There was a town of Roxbury just south of Boston, U.S.A., now annexed to the city. There were - and are still - rock outcrops exposed across the town, so maybe a coincidence.
I was born in Roxbury, Boston!
Love history. . wow nice to have evidence of the past. . Please dig at somewhere with suggested past life where Brian forester goes. pleeeeeeeeese?
This series has been over since 2014 sadly
The map at 5:28 is... interesting. And by interesting I mean "has whoever made that map ever actually looked at a map of Scotland?" None of those place names are in the right location - Inverness isn't too far off, but wtf were they smoking when they produced, approved, edited and reviewed this?
It's still tradition for the team to change when a building emerges from ground level x
Corenza😍
*Carenza.*
China man is a prophet. He had foreseen Corona. Hail to the Chinese prophet.
@@MelancholischerMond Just to underline this to you as you seem ignorant of the fact, *Carenza Lewis* is a female *British* archæologist of considerable renown. She had _nothing_ to do with *_CoVid-19_* and *Chinamanjw* didn't either. I appreciate that such juvenile humour obviously makes you smirk while you are hiding behind the shed smoking but nobody else is amused.
Phil, it is not worth wasting your time nor energy responding to a twit like melan.
@@johnmoss6631 I know, I just get these occasional stupid urges. 🙃
"Silly Sheep"??? LMAO, No doubt if any one of these sheep had been named "Shaun", he would have asked who were sillier ... Sheep Grazing as they were meant to do ... or those strange two-legged creatures tearing up perfectly good 'grazeable sod' to look for a town that disappeared centuries that wasn't named "Brigadoon"!
BTW, I'm on whatever side Mick put us on ... and he'd always vote to get as much knowledge as the could in 72 hours.
I ALWAYS FELT Those 3 day digs were kind of unfair - it shouldn't include the 9 plus hours the team needed to eat, sleep, and prepare for the next days dig.
Thank God, history passed Roxborough by
Everytime he says geo fiz it crackes me up.lol
"Umm... Ummm... Ummmm... Hmm..." That's why the experts get paid the big bucks.
I wonder how three year old Phil sounded.🤣
at woulda been summat
Alice Roberts wow
34:46 Time to call in an expert.
The expert: "Uhm... eh... um... hmm... hmhm..."
Contrived. They stitched together the beginnings of several different statements.
Phil is great, isn't he just?
Was that Dr Alice Roberts digging in a trench? Couldn't miss the hair!
Finding it interesting how Carenza has taken up the historical documents research now that Robin is gone.
Yes I suppose that looks slightly odd as Carenza is a professional archaeologist, however according to her Wiki page she has previously been commissioned to conduct historical research at the University of Birmingham and so I guess she was equally at home with a pile of documents, as with a trowel. Having said that she left the show not long after this in 2004, so maybe she wasn't so keen on what she was being asked to do - who knows
I miss Robin.
Has anyone noticed that on other episodes in season 11, Carenza was pregnant? In that state, perhaps being on hands and knees was not a good idea. I do miss her in later episodes.
Better late than never...LOL LOL 👍👏
When were spinning wheels in use? Those treadle lathes just bug me...
Interesting,since I was born in Roxbury, Boston, Massachusetts, USA. This could be the origin of the name.
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The map at 5:26 has Edinburgh where Sterling is. Very rare mistake from TT.
Where does the soil come from to cover layers of archeological periods? It it from natural erosion or do are they buried after they fall out of use?
Depends on location but usually a combination of nature and people robbing stone and such.
also as with most of the world of it was a good place to make a structure it usually had multiple residents over the centuries.
the movement of worms and rain over 100s of years causes the stone to sink a little , bird poo and dead leaves will compost over time and add a layer, loads of factors, on a grander scale, ice ages, volcano eruptions, plates shifting etc to reshape and "take back" the earth
thats where all the leaves,dead grass etc. go that fall in the autum
The attempt at aligning land owners woud have been essier with a platform of Styrofoam and pins to temporarily attach yet moveable with further reading.
The Time Team also did a dig at Codnor Castle. Henry de Grey, Baron Grey of Codnor was my 26th great-grandfather. Within three generations, one of Henry de Grey, Baron Grey of Codnor's first great-grandsons (and my direct line), Andrew Gray, Lord of Broxmouth (brother of Henry de Grey, 1st Baron of Codnor, who inherited the direct line of the Lords of Codnor), "obtained from King Robert [Bruce of Scotland], for his good and faithful services [in the War of Independence], a grant of several lands", one of which was Broxmouth Castle in Roxburghshire, Scotland. The next seven generations lived in the castle, the last of which was Andrew Grey, 2nd Lord Grey, Sheriff of Forfar, Justice of Scotland (born circa 1446 Roxborough Castle, Broxmouth, Roxburghshire, Scotland. Death: February 1514 Foulis Castle, Perthshire, Scotland (United Kingdom), my 16th great-grandfather. From Wikipedia: "Roxburgh Castle is a ruined royal castle that overlooks the junction of the rivers Tweed and Teviot, in the Borders region of Scotland. Its castleton developed into the royal burgh of Roxburgh, which the Scots (under James II) destroyed along with the castle after capturing it in 1460." Naturally, when one goes this far back in one's family tree, the characters feel like more than historical figures than forebearers. Still, the episode was fascinating to watch.
By the looks of it, that area is most likely prone to flooding. I can see why it was abandoned.
They moved the border and the town died. Like the modern, they moved the highway and the town was bypassed.
Ohhh arre Tony...Mary and katt
The map at @5:00 is amazingly inaccurate for TT unless one remembers the usual attitudes of the English toward anything Scottish. If London were identified on a map to be in the vicinity of Oxford, there would be angry mobs in the streets with pitchforks. I was very surprized that TT would allow anything so off scale.
Thanks to Mick, I now know what a Black Country accent sounds like.
Try listening to Robert Plant’s speaking voice. He’s Black Country born and bred, too.
Question :A scheduled Historic site is protected I get.But wouldn't they care to actually know all about that site?
Differential magnetometer to be more exact
Fluxgate gradiometers to be even more precise.
All this land belonging to Charles Robert George Innes-Ker is the 11th Duke of Roxburghe.
What is the expert in?
Time to call in an expert. Uhm, eh, um, hmm, uh, uhm.
Stuart solves it again just using his eyes and maps
Matt is such a baby!
Dec 2019
Could the "Black Death" be responsible for the abandonment of so many towns?
Yes but as I understand the plagues time line the centuries are off. I believe the plague was the 1300s. Would have to look though
Villages, yes, towns, rarely.
Scott, Roxburgh was in rebellion against King James II. In 1460 he laid siege. His wife came for a visit and he wanted to impress her with a cannonade. The gun he fired exploded and he died. The Queen, Mary of Gueldres ordered the town and the castle taken and then destroyed. When Richard of Gloucester took Berwick back for England in 1482 the need for Roxburgh evaporated and it was not rebuilt.
The stone with the carved tree had a very obvious serpent hanging in it - the garden of Eden, not Christ's crucifixion!
The town was destroyed when James II of Scotland was killed besieging the town.
First aired March 21, 2004.
Why would the church be outside the earthworks?
It might have been attached to a monastry ?...
*L2 BBOC* Churches, cemeteries and monasteries are often outside the commercial areas of a town.
Duke of Roxburghe
What's it like to own 60,000 acres and a castle?
*alex jervis* I imagine it's one _hell_ of a responsibility! 😞
@@philaypeephilippotter6532
About 94 square miles!
Nearly every beginning, Tony usually ask Mick something and he says "No, I don't think so." Usually in the context of getting the data they want in the time allowed... I can hear it in my dreams.
“Good” geophys 🤣
And Henry screws up again. The one guy whose entire job is done by a machine gets I wrong. Alwaysss
good at history not so hot on geography, Edinburgh a bit too far north
Liam Gibson ,I found out a strange thing , using longitude Edinborough is further west than Manchester.Don’t laugh go and check it out.I am over 50 and from Northumberland so found it hard to believe but it is true.Just for general info ,I thought you might like to check it out.The other thing is where I was born and raised is further north than a huge region of south west Scotland.I’d always though our shared island was more or less up and down north /south,east/west.I am writing this in friendship hope you are neither bored or annoyed
Geordie Lad, no problem at all it was just that on the map they showed during the programme Edinburgh was where Dundee is and a wee bit further west You are right about the Long of Edinburgh and Manchester!
I don’t understand why the land owner wouldn’t let them dig like they “wanted” to?
It will all grow back. The country could really use as much info for the local history and their country????
Geez....?...
Edinburgh is incorrectly sited on their map
...English map
It's part of a cunning plan to misguide those treacherous English in case the try to invade Scotland once again ;)
Where did Robin the archivist go?
He seems to only be in the earliest episodes.
He only appeared in episodes through season 10.
He retired from *TT.*
Passed away 2010
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