Animal Farm (Hanslope) | Series 12 Episode 13 | Time Team
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An unusual horse bit, some posh finds and carved stonework lead the team on a search for a Norman hunting lodge in Northamptonshire, but it isn't long before the lodge's massive stone walls begin to look a little less impressive, and, under the forensic trowels of the diggers, the lodge shrinks in every direction.
Series 12, Episode 13
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Phil is my spirit animal, I could work, watch and listen endlessly
May not be high status but still important. So often history focuses on the elite. Good to see how ordinary people live.
Couldn't agree more with you... It does give you an interesting inside, and they even got wiser about the use of a horse bit.
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I'd say in some ways more important. It's a lot easier to find out about how the high and mighty lived. They left so much behind: castles, books, histories, etc.
But the peasants would have so little, and wouldn't have left behind much if anything.
Speaking as a low status peasant, I agree!
That is what annoys me about Tony and always has over the years . Tony ALWAYS focuses too much on every dig about ‘is it high status’ as if that’s the only sort of archeology he wants found. Whereas Mick seems to understand it isn’t the use, it’s the history and try’s to calm him down.
“To you Tony this must seem like some massive charger’ Sir Phil Harding is a national treasure. Let’s hope there’s still all the great banter between the Time Team in the new episodes that was one of the great things about it wasn’t stuffy
Llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll less
It did take them years to get to know each other, though. It's not like this was the first season. Give the new episodes a few years to build its own character.
Total bullsh1t nonsense
It was also mainly staged and fake as hell with clearly planted “finds” especially later on when it clearly became more about ratings and “entertainment” and they started bringing in fake experts who gave out blatantly false information (like in an episode that was about the greys and they brought in some female author who was supposed to be an “expert” on the matter but it was basically a shameless plug for her new book at the time about the “white queen” and basically everything she said was complete bullshit and was like nobody even bothered fact checking her “ information” before they put all the lies on air.... also they kept on referring to the castle as where the greys first lived when in fact the greys never lived there and in fact they never lived in the area in any of the houses they kept on mentioning until WAYYYY later when one moved there and demolished the older houses to build a brick house that you never heard about except during the introduction and that person was only a grey through marriage and the person that they married was only a grey through marriage down their blood line so they weren’t even really a grey).... also I think it was at this time that both Phil and mic decided they were done with the show and Phil refused to come back for the new one cause safe money that much like the history channel now it’s going to be more about entertainment than about actual history which is why they got two commentators/narrators/presenters who judging by the small preview I saw know absolutely jack crap about either archeology or history (much like tony)
@@richardgrace4500 We could start a GoFundMe account for you to be able to afford punctuation. Would that help?
I appreciate the absolute hell out of Time Team. I'd watch them excavate anywhere in the world in a heartbeat!
Are you satanic by any chance?
@@CharlesStevenage Are you bored and picking on people in the comment section like a coward throwing insults from behind a locked door where you're never confronted by those you abuse?
So much fascinating information in this episode, like "after curfew", who knew?! The size of their warhorses, and "forest" so totally different from our understanding of the word. Love it!
I'm very late in commenting however the Mongols conquered vast amounts of the continent with horses of the very same small stature. China did not have horses much larger as well. What they have in common is weather hardiness, endurance and the ability to graze on scrub. A Mongol's most important piece of equipment was his horse and then his weapons. Mistreating or loosing equipment earned you instant death. Quite a military 'motivator'.
Murphy is a sweetheart. It was clear that Phil had never been on a mount. It was just as clear that sweet Murphy had long managed cumbersome flailers.
i rather like to see everyday life - we all like high status, but seeing how the mass of humanity scraped along is fascinating :)
Me too! It’s always been the everyday people that do most of the work in keeping things running. The high status people just benefit from the work.
Me too!
@@lilykatmoon4508 i think it's because high status were administrators, more than anything - and administration is (and has been since the dawn of humanity) incredibly boring hahahaha
Why this one in my top favourite Time Teams, they had to get back to basics, and discover the story.
Is anyone going to mention how utterly magnificent Bobby is? I recall many a fine childhood afternoon bareback atop my gallant steed, a 13 hand Welsh pony named Gimlet. She wouldnt have accepted that bit either!
Bobby looks like a Connemara to me. His name too, would be a clue. There are a heck of a lot of Bobbys in the breed, the most famous having been Carna Bobby.
When Phil was up on the pony, he so missed the chance to exclaim "Baldrick, come hither..." 😁🤣
I thought the same thing
Oh gawds YES!!!
Chiswick! Fresh horse!
Not sure Tony would appreciate that
A beast of a war pony, not to far to fall . Sometimes you just have to laugh at these guys. Carry on boys.
I liked this episode, as I use to live in Hartwell village in Northampton and spent many happy moments playing in salcey forest as a young boy which surrounded hartwell village. Salcey forest was also a former medieval hunting forest.
Jonathan Foyle's good looking !
33:16 I like Victor's startled cat.
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Every Victor's drawings have you noticed there's always a dog 🐕 in them??
I absolutely LOVE learning about normal Life of medieval (or Any other era) Life, so this is fantastic. On modern society its hard to remember but some people dedicated their whole lifes or/and Even generations to this pig farm, Even If its not a Castle or something as grand its still was someones pride and Life.
Not to mention food and hide benefits of relatively domesticated as opposed to the dangerous wild, feral pigs and boar!
It comes down to valuing people highly whatever their circumstances or how "successful" their lives have been. The details of life down through the ages is fascinating.
I would watch an entire series on the history of horses and livestock.
You should try watching the BBC historic farm series (plus the precursor, Tales From the Green Valley). They follow a group of historians through a farming year living and working as they would in the particular time in history. There's Stuart, Victorian, Tudor, Edwardian, and WW2.
@@art.anemonejp omg that is legit my favourite series of all time. I’ve probably watched every episode at least half a dozen times and I own several of the books as well. Honestly, Ruth Goodman is my hero!
Loved the green valley series with ruth Goodman
And Alex and tom
Phil on a horse is such a delight! :)
Lmao that dig at Tony about the pony being a 'mighty charger' to him was great quip from Phil. The quick side eye glance at the end from Tony shows it stuck his core that did ahahaha.
I love Mick so much. A true scientist.
Thank you for not cutting off the iconic soundtrack of the show like quite a few of your other uploads.
"May I introduce you to a Norman Knights mighty Warhorse?"
"That's a kids pony"
"Yup".
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Aah. Time Team. My happy place.
"... prehistoric - standard stuff..." Very strange words to hear for us in the US.
I am not surprised he’s never been on a horse before he’s a big lad like me and we possibly need a Shire horse to carry our weight
Loved Phil on that pony!
When Tony says bag of pot, and the weighing is done by a gentleman that looks right out of a Guy Ritchie movie, I just had to chuckle a bit
Glad to know I wasn't alone In my line of thinking !
It was a bit of Black Adder!
This show makes my life better.
Love this show my favorite character is Phil harding
Ordinary people just like many of the viewers. It took the team a while to figure out what was going on in the area. No "big" finds and riches - but good thinking. Hurray for regular people!
Now I know I dont need to watch the video because they find nothing. Thanks
Years ago I went to a Roman museum in Köln, Germany, and my favorite stuff was the day to day stuff, things women used to apply make-up, children's toys, dentists tools. The stuff of the regular people fascinates me.
@@aelyn2909 And even better, they gave you an opportunity to be snotty and rude, something I am sure you treasure.
@@PtolemyJones ouch🤣🤣🤣
A stand out episode! Thank you for sharing it
Thank goodness for Time Team!
You didn't have to make a copy of that horse bit. it's called a "cathedral bit" and they are still made and used to this day, mostly in Latin America.
“Phil has never been on a horse before…”
Phil: “Magic!”
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Once you get over the fear of being so high up ( and the related fear of falling off!) riding a horse is a fantastic experience. I guess for a very long period of history, owning a horse was very much like owning a car or motorbike- the sense of freedom to move around is exhilarating, just as Phil's reaction shows!
Love to see phil on a horse that got spooked and watching him holding on for dear life while the horse is going 30 MPH
"GET ME ORF DIS ORSE" 😂😂😂
Nothing depressing about “peasant hovels” as it’s peasants who build a country! We need to quit only focusing on the rich. Nations are built & fed by “peasants”!!! Time they get the archeological importance they deserve
When you chase Phil with a boar spear he can break all Olympic records . LOL
I loved this one- I didn't see it when it first aired, which is a shame as I live in Bletchley, the town that makes up the southern part of Milton Keynes. It was wonderful learning some local history which for once wasn't linked to the Romans!
But in Bletchley you have a part in modern history which would be of paramount importance that would outshine mostly anything in the past!
@@dinerouk try telling that to the Normans!
@@dineroukBletchley I think goes back to magna carta,or thereabouts.
Again I say that Bletchley. (Park) (and with Alan Turing, )shortened WW2 by some 2 years@@pheart2381
I beg to differ, Murphy the pony is indeed having a fuss at the bit aka instrument of torture. The port on that bit is massive for a small horse's mouth. The chewing motion Murphy continues to exibit during the segment is indication that he's trying to come to terms with it. The fact he accepted it at all is just because he's conditioned to take a bit but not one like that.
Yes, I totally agree. I've just stopped the video at that point to see if anyone else thought the pony was not enjoying that horrible torturous bit in its mouth. I also thought Phil was too heavy for that pony. I don't care if they can tolerate someone of Phil's size/weight on them; I just don't believe it's good for the pony's spine at all.
He is probably only used to a snaffle bit, not a curb, and the bit was too low in his mouth, which makes any horse uncomfortable. But yes, the port was definitely not something he was used to, more similar to what you see used on reining horses which as the knight re-enactor noted, use very loose reins.
@@jodyknight oh get off your high horse
I am with you, it's the only time I have ever watched this show and been unimpressed.
I was standing there like "the chewing is a sign that it's uncomfortable!" (First thing I was told when learning to ride was how to recognise an incompatible bit... I was 7 so working off memories but glad to see I wasn't wrong)
Thank you for saying something, I was hoping I wasn't alone in my disapproval.
Yeah, I'm not familiar with horses at all, and I even noticed that. Hope they took that thing out quickly.
Phil, if you see this or someone tells you, I wish you a happy napping year for 2023
I feel like it's ALWAYS Matt's side-trench that makes the breakthrough :p
Best finds are the Saxons....always exciting
Great episode. Loved it. Thank you for your efforts.
0:41 "...along with... this weird corbel, isn't that strange!?"
*12th century mason* :(
5:00 that fire cover would really warm up a room for a long time.
I love seeing archeology of the ordinary. Really interesting episode.
This one still seems to be a bit mysterious! The Gordon's Lodge website says the final report didn't bear out the hypothesis of a pig processing plant, so I guess still TBC!
I was curious about Pat Lawrence too (one of the tutors & equestrian historical reenactors) as he sounded like he might've been originally a Kiwi, but I can't really find anything online about his background...? (As a history-obsessed NZer it's always interesting spotting NZ archaeologists via this programme - Bridget Gallagher is one and her partner Raysan Al-Kubaisi did architectural computer modeling in many episodes also, including the recent TT revival).
And my understanding is that a clearing in the forest where you kept the pigs was a den. One side of my family had a last name ending in “den”, which apparently was associated with their pig herding activities.
That is interesting as I know of several villages close to Ashridge forest with the names ending in den, Gaddesden and Nettleden. They are associated with the river Gade with Little Gaddesden up river of Great Gaddesden.
It could be they were pig farm areas, will need to see what records exist to back this theory up.
A facinating episode, from starting out as 2 story manor house or hunting lodge, to a place where pigs were slaughtered was quite a journey. Really informative and interesting stuff, made entertaining by the people in the shows.
That pony did NOT accept that bit. It was very irritated. The pony allowed the human to PUT it in his mouth and was not throwing a fit but was showing extreme discomfort. I’m glad it didn’t last long.
That pony may not have resisted that bit, but he sure didn't like it....
I live in Ireland, but loved time team.
Phil would have been right at home in the 12th century ;)
He allways looks out of place in modern times ;)
I love how they tease each-other
King John is one of my direct ancestors through my grandmother.
But not through your mother or father? How does that work?
Thank you YT for sending this my way! I've been bingeing this alternating with a couple of others. The only question not answered so far is Why only 3 days? As easily as I get lost in research, you would lose me there! I'd never get out in the field to help with anything else!
Originally the programme was set up on a three days basis due to the fact that the academics could only spare three days off from their main work at a time.
I thought only 3 Days because it is expensive to do those Digs. In Germany nothing is diged anymore until it is from National Interest. So we will loose more and more History. In 200 Years you will only find Plastic and defect Stuff produced in China...
It was also determined that viewers would not be interested in long, drawn-out digs where nothing changed over a season. 3 days introduced a bit of tension & change to keep the show exciting.
For all Phil's doubts about the ponies, the average Norman man was 5'7" (171cm) which means half of them were smaller. He's perhaps confused by the persistent myth that they rode draft horses like Clydesdales. They rode coursers (also for hunting) and rounceys, with a few who rode destriers. The average courser was around 14.2 to 15 hands (58 to 60 inches, 147 to 152 cm), which seems about right for the men riding them. The prime attribute was speed, followed by agility, not size.
Love Phil on the horse😂
Phil is a god.
Soon as they said it was not substantial enough to be a manor house, I was thinking workshop
Salt and smoked pork were militarily significant for feeding armies. If I was a king I would not want someone with 1,000 pigs rebelling against the crown.
If you didn't own them, they aren't working for you so you get none😮
I'm troubled by that one cooking pot breaking every week remark. Doesn't that mean pottage falling into the fire once a week? I'm not sure they wouldn't seek better pots or cooking techniques fairly quickly.
Fascinating dig!
30:10 and arrows were fired on the outside, as depicted on all art, and as done to this day by all traditional archers, horseback and foot, from Mongolia to Japan.
Horse: Get 'im off, get 'im off!
With pig slaughtering you needed to process a lot of it on-site because there was no refrigeration and transport was slow. Especially useful/expensive parts that the average person wouldn't know about like the offal, intestines, caul fat and other useful membranes, and blood in particular for black sausage/pudding needs to be processed before clotting for best results. Not a lot should to be wasted on a pig, and those bits would've been even more important back in those days, so I can see why they likely had a lot of heating/cooking areas...and it was better to keep them away from the domestic dwellings as it's not a very pleasant aroma.
I would imagine the head piece could be a mason’s apprentice practice piece, sold for cheap to somebody that wanted a budget piece for the cupboard.
What do you mean that pony is accepting that bit?? BS!!! Not even… Look at the way he keeps mouthing and chewing, he wants the damn thing out of his mouth!! What a lie… Anybody who knows anything about horses knows that he doesn’t like that thing at all.
And they laid it too low in his mouth...
Thanks , enjoyed it very much!
Tony"Aristocratic Rebel"🤪.Jona,Helen,looks good together.That finger ring is a heartbreaker though.lol.
Thanks for posting.
very different from the bags of pot I am used to.
Aaaaaaand out come the horse people who HAVE to nit-pick the comments made by Archaeologists who aren’t equestrians 🙄 38:34 How about just enjoying the fact that they’re showing such lovely enthusiasm to learn about some genuinely interesting equestrian history? This is why I don’t bother joining a riding club & thank god every day that I don’t have to agist my boys any more!
Phil riding the horse 🐎
All digs are equal. But some digs are more equal than others. Just sayin'...
"All that year the animals worked like slaves. But they were happy in their work; they grudged no effort or sacrifice, well aware that everything they did was for the benefit of themselves and those of their kind who would come after them, and not for a pack of idle, thieving human beings."
That corbel head somewhat resembled Tony with his knitted hat on😮😮😮😮😮!
That bit had to be horrendously painful to the horse
nope. there are some wild looking bits out there that don't hurt if properly used.
Soo, pottery was the medieval plastic huh?
Of course know one believed it all happened in 3 days, but we loved to see the past finders at work. Plus the fact it was a Technique on a modern medium 👌. The show was Loved
Mick was wrong about no trees on Dartmoor and Exmoor but I understand why he said that and what he meant
Good one!
new content!! yeeeee!
I sometimes think to myself that Jerry Garcia would of been an absolute banger of casting to play Mick Aston in a Scorsese bio pic of the time team.
Ok - keeping foxes and loosing them for a chase - Pigs/hogs might be just the same - as they feed back home and a bit of sport. As is done in Texas hunting hogs and lots of them. Perhaps the royals had a keeper and would stock the forest. Remember fires are needed to render fat down to 'oil' and boil hide....
Love your digs. I've watched most of them in no particular order. One thing I've noticed. Very few of your "diggers" wear knee protection! I have osteoarthritis in both knees from 33yrs as a Gas Engineer. It's very painful and stiffens my knees terribly. PLEASE PLEASE wear knee protection!!!
I love the show but sometimes the conclusions seem a bit off. If the inhabitants were processing pigs by the hundred, shouldn't there have been a mass of pig bones? I dont recall them mentioning ANY of those.
Just regular people like us
They found Baldrick's home!
Phil gets on his pony. Stone the crows!. Good Aussie saying
That may have been a royal Forrest? What happened to all the trees? I guess they didn’t replant when they harvested the trees.
Forest didn't necessarily mean woodland at that time, just a royal hunting area.
Just because they found the remains of a pony, doesn't mean they were used by Norman Knights.
That unidentified bit of metal looks like a snaffle bit, but I don't know when they were invented.
Pork crackling … yum ☺️
Helen!
Brilliant
Ohhhh arerr Toney animal farm.... Stone the crows
Alex is a genius
For all the people who ask on every video "But where did all the stone go from these sites? Who took the stone?"- now you know!
Pretty clear none of these archaeologists know the first thing about bitting up a horse; that bit was hanging down way too far in the first pony's mouth, rendering it virtually ineffective and probably quite uncomfortable for the pony.
No I dont suppose they do, since they seem to spend most of the time grubbing in the ground.
@@katerinakemp5701 They might have considered having an actual horseman around to help. They're not hard to find. They could even have looked up the information in a book. No, I think they were more interested in being entertaining than anything else in that particular moment. Still a good show; I watch it a lot.
@@lspthrattan lol they did, prior to bitting up the pony.
Live and learn..
Perhaps it was a potter`s house. Perhaps he was making high status pottery. What`s the soil, is it clay?
Tony Robinson GeoPhys Snark 8:34 :)
Has anyone identified what the strange metal ringed item shown at 14.46 is as yet?
40:40 Dating evidence for the dig. Not earlier than september 2004