+R3dhawk yep. no clue why they do this. Any other game they are trying to get new players into the game suckered in whatevs. WOTs nope. Sell seal clubbing tanks, make it so any 1 can play tier 1,-5 with any tank. This is by far the hardest game to get started on and enjoy.
+ProWotGamers well... it might not be the only proof we have, but we don't need more than one. And this tanks, especially with this speacial offer, is absolutely and surely 100% pay to win.
+Grammar Nazi Agreed. Only bad players complain about 'pay to win'. Am so sick of seeing players who don't pay anything slagging off players who do. Without people who make purchases, no game for people that can't. I mean it's not like all the staff at Wargaming are going to work on the game for nothing.... Same as +ProWotGamers I played the game for along ass time before I spent any money on it.
+DubstepinWithSmoke LoL wouldn't it be nice, if when we came across rare gems like this, WE could email wargaming and get it back? Or even half price? LOL
+SpeedyCraft51 That's how it used to be. Now they allow you 1 a year that you can get back no matter the circumstance. They will just deduct the credits from your account that they gave you when they sold it to you.
you get 25'000 gold with the package -> 1 shot = 1 gold -> max 400 shots per round -> you have enough ammo to play at least 65 battles without spending credits.
In case anyone's ever had any doubts as to WG's approach to balance, and the level of contempt in which they hold their player base (which, to be fair, is largely stupid enough to tolerate it), one need only watch this video.
Jingles + Pz2J videos sort of reminds me of that Top Gear episode where Jeremy mocks Jaguar owners. "Oh no, it's a sealclubber wiping the floor in tier 3." "Don't worry, he's doing it in his Pz2 Jjjjaaaaagggggg."
I really want a PZ 2J but I'm not willing to spend $135 Canadian for one of them... That comparison though, that blocked damage is good for an e100 made me have a good laugh
+Adam Mendoza lol your forgetting the cruiser mark ii if it has the 3.7 howitzer that thing will still kill you if it's being driven by a decent player
Yeah but when a pz2j meets a su76i your pz2j will be shitting more bricks then premshells as it cant pen the tank since it has 60mm frontal armor and is a tier 3 too
This is a Premium tank you can buy that WG sells. They know EXACTLY how OP the tank is, they sell it that way. Only because it's a low tier tank do they do it.
+Slotmech It reminds me of the Imperator Nikolai in world of warships. WG has decided that the ship is so OP that they are never going to sell it again.
They knew that they couldn't nerf it because people had already spent alot on it, so instead they upgrade it, and sell it for a high amount to profit on it :D
Actually you have a panzer 2 G on the enemy team which has the 89 pene on AP standard rounds .... I have the Pz G and I did manage to kill a PZ J once when i meet it in battle
+KrekerisT Dont know what u are trying to insinuate, but i have never played that game. And before someone asks, no i also do not play Warthunder anymore.
+austinpowersfasjer dont know about WoT but in WoWs? what kind of pay to win do you mean? I have sole bad expierences in other f2p games but wows seems prett fair to me
Thanks to you Mr. J this tank become the single most sought after tank for my garage, and I managed to procure it about a year ago when SEA run it in the prem shop for about a week. It cost precisely one arm, one leg and one of my twin children but I was blinded by seal fur and made the sacrifice. Ever since that day it is the first tank I play in each morning...and then I spend the entirety of that day earning enough credits to run it again the next day. :-)
any time ive had a bad day at work and need to let off steam i load up my pz 2 j and after a few battles im usually smiling and laughing its an excellent stress relieving tank
BT-SV is just the Ultimate counter to the II J. You'll bounce 90% of his auto cannon or more, and just butter through his armour.. The gun on the SV, just makes it vastly superior.
+mynameispuffs Na the Cruiser II with a HEAT round from its derp gun is the ultimate counter, disregard its Armour with 110mm pen and one shot the guy with 280 alpha XD
Hope that you read this, Jingles: Statistically, on EU at least, the Pz B2 actually still has a higher average WR than the Pz II J according to vBAddict :P
+CyberMaroon Well, it only works if it's top tier, oh and if you only load gold ammo, oh and if there isn't a tank that can pen it (of which there are several at T3) It's probably the most situational tank in WoT, and no matter how he bigs it up, watching someone club new players is really really boring. Time for the guy playing it to get a real tank and show us what he can do in a regular game.
+The not so Mighty FL_3 it is only ever top tier, it's standard rounds are OK if you can aim, I only load gold for matilda's, other b2's and a couple of other specific tanks. and angle and keep the tank moving and the armour is more than good enough.
So WG was giving away the LTP on NA this past week, so I took the logical course of action, which is re-buying my Cruiser II and having some fun with the derp on it. Came across a Pz II J and I just 1shot it xD
+Xavier Moavero Yea, cruiser II with the howitzer is the best tier 3 tank you can tak into a tier V match, only rivaled by FCM 36 Pak 40. I won a fight with a full hp Kw - 1 with it, running around a house :D
I met one on the enemy team once on the low tier map with the valley down the middle, monastery on one side and town on the other (can't remember the name). It lasted about 30 seconds, everyone simply loaded premium ammo and ripped it a new one.
+Unfluffy Dave ...because those seals aren't going to club themselves. I see these things fairly frequently, but the red team just had the bad luck of not having the PzIIJ's kryptonite on their team. There are a number of tanks that can deal with this pest pretty decisively at tier 3, but most are known as seal clubbing machines as well. If there'd been a SU76i on the other team, this could have ended very differently.
"That's the only justice, you will ever see when there is a Pz. II J in your tier 3 match." I once killed a pz.II J in one hit with the American tier 2 arty. Guy came strolling across the field on Malinovka, feeling invincible. One arty shell later, he wasn't feeling so invincible anymore. Still have mixed feelings about the maps currently in the pool for low tier matches. I get that Malinovka and Province basically reward the guy, who has a 100% camo crew, camo net and binoculars and give far too many advantages to sealclubbers. These maps still taught new players exactly, what to expect from a game about tanks, rather than the bait-and-switch with the action-packed Mittengard on low tiers and a campfest on higher tiers.
I had some epic matches in Provence with TDs during the "charge of the noobs" beginning of those matches. 😎 Oh, and my Renault Otsu, that was a good one too.
I usually play a T-127 or a Panzer 38(t) in Tier III. Both can penetrate a Panzer IIJ from the sides and rear with standard ammo, and both can pen from the front with APCR, which I store in my tanks for just such occasions. It's fun to watch them helplessly try to pen my T-127 from the front (barely possible even with APCR) while I casually chop them down.
What I was quite surprised by was that the Cruiser II on the opposite team wasn't using the howitzer that tank gets. Using that gun makes the Cruiser II quite the nemesis for the Pz. II J.
now BT-SV to compare which one is more OP x) BT is more balanced and fun imo. it can actualy be killed by it's ennemies, and its gun doesnt require you 100k credits in gold each game.
Its a Micro ISU-152 So you do the math, gets the same matchmaker as the 2j, and unlike the btsv and the 2j, this little monster can punish tier 4s and 5s!
The cupola is not a weakpoint. It has 80mm of armor. The only weakspots are the top of the tank, like any other tank, but it can be hit from behind if you are slightly above the tank. And the lower part of armor on the back. Those are both 25mm but are very well angled.
You know, the silly thing about this is, I play on the SEA server and I bought a box set from Russia which came with a panzer II J. Anyway, I asked Tanitha, the producer for the Asia server if i could get the activation code activated and he said that he didn't want this tank on the server but, if i contact support they would do it. So I raised a ticket, sent a copy of my activation code along with pictures of the box set I had purchased and I had my II J sitting in my garage within the hour. Now, here's the thing, Tanitha is the one who decides which tanks are allowed in the premium shop etc etc, he really didn't want the II J on the server and all of a sudden, we have the II J being sold in the shop, so what a sell out. Just goes to prove that it's just about the money and nothing else!! Also, I have never had a battle in my II J like this. I am always bottom tier and get completely owned by tier 4's, not being able to pen them at all. So Jingles, you failed to say that this is a battle in a thousand. Tell it how it really is and stop making this tank out to be something it's not. Yes, it has great armour but it has terrible mm'ing and so ridiculously expensive to run it's hardly worth the bother. Seal clubbing only happens very rarely! Edit: Jus to prove a point to myself, I just went into a battle in my II J and low and behold, I am bottom tier and the enemy are all tier 4's except like me one tier 3 (poor bastard). My team win but not because i can actually do anything. I lose most of my health because a marder 38T pen's my angled frontal armour easily and I do 109 damage to him and that is with premium ammo and I have to fall back because his two shots at me have taken me down to 53HP. So anyone watching this video, don't even think about wasting your money on this tank because it's not just worth it no matter what. If only I could ever get a totally tier 3 and below match with this tank but i know that it will never happen. At $132 Australian, WG are ripping their customers a new arsehole and they don't give a damn, integrity went out the window a long time ago....
+Sir_Forsaken actually, that's something that wargaming has done recently. It used to see tier 3 matches most of the time. when they "removed" the weak spots they gave it tier 4 match making.
+Stubbari Now, here's the thing, Tanitha is the one who decides which tanks are allowed in the premium shop etc etc, he really didn't want the II J on the server and all of a sudden, we have the II J being sold in the shop, so what a sell out. Just goes to prove that it's just about the money and nothing else!! Also, I have never had a battle in my II J like this. I am always bottom tier and get completely owned by tier 4's, not being able to pen them at all. So Jingles, you failed to say that this is a battle in a thousand. Tell it how it really is and stop making this tank out to be something it's not. Yes, it has great armour but it has terrible mm'ing and so ridiculously expensive to run it's hardly worth the bother. Seal clubbing only happens very rarely! Edit: Jus to prove a point to myself, I just went into a battle in my II J and low and behold, I am bottom tier and the enemy are all tier 4's except like me one tier 3 (poor bastard). My team win but not because i can actually do anything. I lose most of my health because a marder 38T pen's my angled frontal armour easily and I do 109 damage to him and that is with premium ammo and I have to fall back because his two shots at me have taken me down to 53HP. So anyone watching this video, don't even think about wasting your money on this tank because it's not worth it no matter what. If only I could ever get a totally tier 3 and below match with this tank but i know that it will never happen. At $132 Australian, WG are ripping their customers a new arsehole and they don't give a damn, integrity went out the window a long time ago....
If you didn't get it, I am Australian and the dollary-doo is from the Simpsons where they portray the AUD as dollary-do's. Not too long ago, a petition was started on Change.org to change the dollar to dollary-do's. I was being a smartarse.
It was Legendary.. but now WG have sold it so many times you see one on each team at lower tiers. And It was overpowered... until the SU-76I came along to counter it. I've ruined many a padders day with that one. Pz II J can't even pen me head on with gold and I only need 2 shots to kill him. And mine only did cost 4 euro, not 99 :P
Jingles do you know how many tier 2 and 3 tanks can penetrate Panzer II J from the front? Its armor is not that overpowered. Here we go: standard ammo: Marder II FCM 36 Pak 40 Type 97 Chi-Ha Type 91 Heavy Valentine AT T56 GMC SU-76M SU-76I Type 2597 Chi-Ha (China) LT vz. 38 Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G Renault UE 57 premium ammo: Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. A Panzerjäger I Stuart I-IV Cruiser Mk. IV Cruiser Mk. III Cruiser Mk. II Cruiser Mk. I Vickers Medium Mk. III Universal Carrier 2-pdr T3 HMC T-60 T-26 BT-2 Tetrarch BT-7 BT-SV LTP T-127 T-46 T-70 AT-1 MS-1 (tier 1!!!) Vickers Mk. E Type B Renault FT AC D2 Somua S35 43 M. Toldi III Großtraktor Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f) Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) M2 Medium Tank So 12 tanks using standard and 32 tanks using premium ammo that can kill this thing form the front! Thats 44 total (not counting artillery). So there is a lot of tanks that can take this sucker down, but not a lot o f player on this tier know what they are doing.
out those il pick the valentine AT, i think it has the best gun of its tier and has good enough armor to bounce pz2j ammo, hell i took on 3 pz2js in my VAT and just ripped them to pieces,
The only thing that sickened me more than the pz 2 J play itself...was the player's absolutely sickening, horrible, complete noob aim. I don't mean to be harsh, but he seemed to want to shoot the scenery more than the enemy tanks. So much skill in right click left click apcr. Oh, the enemy drove behind cover...? I'll just fire a clip into the wall anyways...
GrittyMoonBear My comment was more on how overpowered the tank was, not how good the player was, I guess I should have made the sarcasm a little bit easier to discern.
+Frederick Schulze I guess this shows just how overpowered the tank is. There's the whole fact that a player with that skill set could obtain such a crazy result with relative ease.
This guy really needs his pz 2 j, because he played like shit, unloading a full clip on a tank behind a wall while auto aimed? Kidding me? Ok, you dont care about ammo costs, but you can actually run out like that.
+Slartibarfart Here's a copy paste of my comment: "The only thing that sickened me more than the pz 2 J play itself...was the player's absolutely sickening, horrible, complete noob aim. I don't mean to be harsh, but he seemed to want to shoot the scenery more than the enemy tanks. So much skill in right click left click apcr. Oh, the enemy drove behind cover...? I'll just fire a clip into the wall anyways..."
Jingles I have one of these. The trick to making a profit is to load 200ap rounds for tier 2 tanks and then use prem on anything in tier 3 unless it is a BT-7
A long while back I was taking out my Pz 38H into a match to seal club some poor people, and I ran into a platoon of not one, not two, but THREE PANZER TWO Js!!! The match ended in a draw. It ended up being me vs the Pz II Js, and nobody could pen anybody, so I just fell back to cap and started derping their tracks when they tried to cap the base. Lol.
Some say his father was a TOG 2 and his mother was the HMS Warspite others say he hates onions because they made him cry for the first time... all we know is HE'S CALLED THE MIGHTY JINGLES
Admittedly if there's two enemy tanks going up against a Panzer II J, they could probably win. One sits on the cap, the other distracts and/or harries the Panzer II and constantly keeps him tracked, if possible.
Jingles, you forgot to mention that it has preferential matchmaking as well. It will never see tier five tanks. That is good news for seal clubbers because the Pz II J suffers severely against tier four tanks (at least I had never had problems with Pz II Js when I take out my tier four tanks). In tier three there are some machines (Marder e.g.) that can hurt the II J from the front. AND shooting HE against the "middle" front plate still works very well. If you can't do that: try to get above the II J it's "roof" armor is very thin. Otherwise: sacrifice your tank and ram it in the side ;)
Unloading the whole clip even after the enemy has died. Autolocking on tanks peaking corners. Not continuing to head back to the cap circle while resetting. Trying to snipe with an autocannon on full auto. Imagine how fast the game would have been if he was actually good at it!
The fun usually ends when the last ones standing on each team are IIJ´s. Its like toddlers in plate armour throwing cotton balls at each other... but now when i think about it, that´s kind of funny too.
I recently saw one in a tier 3 game as I was lvling a new line, once I located him I loaded the premium (which I keep just in case this happens) and targeted him with extreme prejudice. His whining when he died was glorious.
My personal seal club tank is my Marder 38T... I normally get between 4 and 8 kills in a match and as a matter of course I tend to do between 400 and 1500 damage.
The Pz2J is definitely one of those vehicles originally balanced around Premium rounds costing Gold. That match would have cost him at least 340 gold. Maybe more, I can't remember if it's the first 2 gold per round tier. That tank definitely didn't get played that much with those operating expenses, and has a hard time killing anything without paying that.
and then no one saw any of the enemy team's players in world of tanks ever again
probs
+R3dhawk yep. no clue why they do this. Any other game they are trying to get new players into the game suckered in whatevs. WOTs nope. Sell seal clubbing tanks, make it so any 1 can play tier 1,-5 with any tank. This is by far the hardest game to get started on and enjoy.
change your pic
NightPhoenix652 Why tho.
@@FastDuDeJiunn WarThunder is much harder & way more frustrating for me than WOT ever was.
Panzer II J - the only proof we need to call this game pay to win.
+ProWotGamers well... it might not be the only proof we have, but we don't need more than one. And this tanks, especially with this speacial offer, is absolutely and surely 100% pay to win.
+clockyro In theory, Yes. In practice its more Pay to Pay. Even when you win you lose.
oh no, a dumbass.
+ProWotGamers technically you have to pay a shit ton of silver to win
+Grammar Nazi Agreed. Only bad players complain about 'pay to win'. Am so sick of seeing players who don't pay anything slagging off players who do. Without people who make purchases, no game for people that can't. I mean it's not like all the staff at Wargaming are going to work on the game for nothing.... Same as +ProWotGamers I played the game for along ass time before I spent any money on it.
I killed a panzer 2J with my Marder 2 using gold he called me a gold spamming noob he didn't even say it with irony how I laughed 😂
It would be funnier if the pz2 J went afk and none alive could even scratch it.
+jacob turner
Except that in normal battles, sitting on your own cap doesn't stop the cap process. That's only on neutral (white) flags.
My idiot friend sold his when he thought it was 'bad'. He's been kicking himself about it ever since I told him to look up a replay of this thing.
+Max Bude All he has to do is email Wargaming, and they will give it back to him.
+DubstepinWithSmoke LoL wouldn't it be nice, if when we came across rare gems like this, WE could email wargaming and get it back? Or even half price? LOL
+JackG79 well that is if he sold it less than a month ago. over that time period it's gone forever ^^
+SpeedyCraft51 That's how it used to be. Now they allow you 1 a year that you can get back no matter the circumstance. They will just deduct the credits from your account that they gave you when they sold it to you.
+JackG79 I had sold my Lowe at one point, and really started to regret it. I emailed them, and got it back about 6 months after I had sold it.
This is the earliest I have ever been to a Jingles video....
same
+oseansoldier You better make a joke then
+oseansoldier same lol
+oseansoldier He's posting earlier and earlier, yeah?
+oseansoldier same
This was what the E-100 was when it was a baby!...Then it grew up and became all balanced!...
No, this is what the MAUS was as a child.
Basically,Jagdpanzer E100 was created to destroy that little rock
you get 25'000 gold with the package -> 1 shot = 1 gold -> max 400 shots per round -> you have enough ammo to play at least 65 battles without spending credits.
I went to the prem shop for the first time in weeks and I saw this package it sooo stupid they still sell this tank
*****
lol
+Olecarnivorous That isn't an ass. :P
maybe because its a penis
+Gonun excellent math, but thats if you use all your rounds every match. if you only use a portion you may be looking at more rounds
In case anyone's ever had any doubts as to WG's approach to balance, and the level of contempt in which they hold their player base (which, to be fair, is largely stupid enough to tolerate it), one need only watch this video.
Jingles + Pz2J videos sort of reminds me of that Top Gear episode where Jeremy mocks Jaguar owners.
"Oh no, it's a sealclubber wiping the floor in tier 3." "Don't worry, he's doing it in his Pz2 Jjjjaaaaagggggg."
Thank god the shakes went away. Almost went a full day without my daily dose of Jingles.
I really want a PZ 2J but I'm not willing to spend $135 Canadian for one of them... That comparison though, that blocked damage is good for an e100 made me have a good laugh
i have the pz II j on ps4 and it bounces so many shells lol tier 3 with 80mm of frontal armor lmao
+Adam Mendoza lol your forgetting the cruiser mark ii if it has the 3.7 howitzer that thing will still kill you if it's being driven by a decent player
Yeah but when a pz2j meets a su76i your pz2j will be shitting more bricks then premshells as it cant pen the tank since it has 60mm frontal armor and is a tier 3 too
TheGoldenWolf on ps4 PS+ players get them for free. i sold it. it's slow and low damage for class. I'm a glass cannon player
Zach Haus glass cannons are the way to go, got the FV4005 and the FV215B 183 :D
this has to be the worst Pz-II J player I've ever seen..
You don't need to be the best tanker in the world in one of these.
+EirikXL And he STILL got away with it. This thing looks unbelievably overpowered, and I don't even play WoT.
This is a Premium tank you can buy that WG sells. They know EXACTLY how OP the tank is, they sell it that way. Only because it's a low tier tank do they do it.
+Slotmech It reminds me of the Imperator Nikolai in world of warships. WG has decided that the ship is so OP that they are never going to sell it again.
TuxPenguin I've fought and seen a few Nikolais in WoWS. They've never beaten off other ships at even close to the same rate the P2J does.
i bet schrader has 40 seperate accounts just to dislike jingles' videos
cemp bush unfair plane
They knew that they couldn't nerf it because people had already spent alot on it, so instead they upgrade it, and sell it for a high amount to profit on it :D
business in a nutshell
Actually quite surprising, all there's left to do is put the Pz.II J as a russian tank.
Wg isn't done with IIJ yet...this can't be.
+Nila95 *insert a funny joke here* You certainly wouldn't need any buffs because you are so damn OP!
It was like that when I played AT2 years ago at top tier. Sweet memories.
Actually you have a panzer 2 G on the enemy team which has the 89 pene on AP standard rounds .... I have the Pz G and I did manage to kill a PZ J once when i meet it in battle
That's my clanmate great guy and he sent me this video to watch a few days ago, very entertaining!
+StuInTokyo Same.
Too much Pay-to-Win is one of the reasons I quit WOT (and few other games) and won't go back.
+Draconisrex1 I left that game for the same reason. As well as World of Warships.
+austinpowersfasjer But I bet you still enjoy World of Warplanes?
+KrekerisT Dont know what u are trying to insinuate, but i have never played that game. And before someone asks, no i also do not play Warthunder anymore.
Cry me a river
+austinpowersfasjer dont know about WoT but in WoWs? what kind of pay to win do you mean? I have sole bad expierences in other f2p games but wows seems prett fair to me
It's 4 o'clock in the bloody mornin', Jingles! Move!
No seal's where actually clubbed to death in this video.
Am very disappointed
Thanks to you Mr. J this tank become the single most sought after tank for my garage, and I managed to procure it about a year ago when SEA run it in the prem shop for about a week. It cost precisely one arm, one leg and one of my twin children but I was blinded by seal fur and made the sacrifice.
Ever since that day it is the first tank I play in each morning...and then I spend the entirety of that day earning enough credits to run it again the next day. :-)
any time ive had a bad day at work and need to let off steam i load up my pz 2 j and after a few battles im usually smiling and laughing its an excellent stress relieving tank
BT-SV is just the Ultimate counter to the II J. You'll bounce 90% of his auto cannon or more, and just butter through his armour..
The gun on the SV, just makes it vastly superior.
+mynameispuffs Or Chi-Ha or most russian lights or any TD, come to think of it there are a lot of tanks that can destroy the J in 3-4 shots.
+mynameispuffs I have both and I consider the BT-SV far more op, faster better gun and angle the BT and You'll bounce any auto cannon
+mynameispuffs Cruiser II Howitzer two or three shots this trash-bin.
+mynameispuffs Na the Cruiser II with a HEAT round from its derp gun is the ultimate counter, disregard its Armour with 110mm pen and one shot the guy with 280 alpha XD
+VenomGhost1 wy not take the t82 that thing doesnt even need heat to wreck js
Ladies and Gentlemen, the bottomless pit of horror that is free to play gaming. Enjoy.
Actually I got mine from Christmas calendar for gold which was basically free for me since I earned a LOT of gold via clans. :)
This thing shouldn't exist at all, not in its current form...
It isnt it final form Xd
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+Mike Koble Xbox 360 is World of Console tanks and every one of them would be eatin alive against PC players....gamepads are only so good lol.
Ahh, nothing better than enjoying a Pz II J video from Jingles :)
btw, you should do a TOG II video! Been so long since the last one!
Hope that you read this, Jingles: Statistically, on EU at least, the Pz B2 actually still has a higher average WR than the Pz II J according to vBAddict :P
yup, I have a pz.B2 and personally have a 76% win rate in it! (i am a 53% overall). whenever I feel down, B2 it is! 😂
+Matt Shimell WOuldn't that be due to so many more people owning the Pz B2?
+JackG79 Why would that matter?
+CyberMaroon Well, it only works if it's top tier, oh and if you only load gold ammo, oh and if there isn't a tank that can pen it (of which there are several at T3) It's probably the most situational tank in WoT, and no matter how he bigs it up, watching someone club new players is really really boring. Time for the guy playing it to get a real tank and show us what he can do in a regular game.
+The not so Mighty FL_3 it is only ever top tier, it's standard rounds are OK if you can aim, I only load gold for matilda's, other b2's and a couple of other specific tanks. and angle and keep the tank moving and the armour is more than good enough.
And 2000 Pz II J.'s were just sold in the SE server.
So WG was giving away the LTP on NA this past week, so I took the logical course of action, which is re-buying my Cruiser II and having some fun with the derp on it. Came across a Pz II J and I just 1shot it xD
+Xavier Moavero Yea, cruiser II with the howitzer is the best tier 3 tank you can tak into a tier V match, only rivaled by FCM 36 Pak 40.
I won a fight with a full hp Kw - 1 with it, running around a house :D
the first sign of jingles withdrawal is a sudden urge to shout "tog" randomly
+Cultureghost TOOOG!!!
I met one on the enemy team once on the low tier map with the valley down the middle, monastery on one side and town on the other (can't remember the name). It lasted about 30 seconds, everyone simply loaded premium ammo and ripped it a new one.
It's name is Abbey :)
Province.
I have one on blitz and when I was young and foolish I wasn't loading all prem so with 3 tanks left I couldn't kill them. Sadly a draw
+Jo Simes You grew up in two months bravo
+Unfluffy Dave ...because those seals aren't going to club themselves. I see these things fairly frequently, but the red team just had the bad luck of not having the PzIIJ's kryptonite on their team. There are a number of tanks that can deal with this pest pretty decisively at tier 3, but most are known as seal clubbing machines as well. If there'd been a SU76i on the other team, this could have ended very differently.
"That's the only justice, you will ever see when there is a Pz. II J in your tier 3 match."
I once killed a pz.II J in one hit with the American tier 2 arty. Guy came strolling across the field on Malinovka, feeling invincible. One arty shell later, he wasn't feeling so invincible anymore.
Still have mixed feelings about the maps currently in the pool for low tier matches. I get that Malinovka and Province basically reward the guy, who has a 100% camo crew, camo net and binoculars and give far too many advantages to sealclubbers. These maps still taught new players exactly, what to expect from a game about tanks, rather than the bait-and-switch with the action-packed Mittengard on low tiers and a campfest on higher tiers.
I had some epic matches in Provence with TDs during the "charge of the noobs" beginning of those matches. 😎 Oh, and my Renault Otsu, that was a good one too.
lol, seal clubbing and op yes, funny? hell yeah, now i know what i want for my 40th!
+John Sharpe good profile picture :D
+rudkacka lol
That FT BS driver did a hell of a job for artillery on a city map.
The low tier Brit derp gun is useful against these
+MorningGI0ry It's so funny, when a Pz. II J thinks he's going to club some seals and you turn up with a 3.7-Inch Howitzer.
+MorningGI0ry should be the Cruiser II or something right?
Yes, Cruiser Mk II
iatsd Haven't played WOT since 2013 so I wouldn't know.
If Pz2js get on your nerves? Take the cruiser 2 for a run! ;)
I usually play a T-127 or a Panzer 38(t) in Tier III. Both can penetrate a Panzer IIJ from the sides and rear with standard ammo, and both can pen from the front with APCR, which I store in my tanks for just such occasions. It's fun to watch them helplessly try to pen my T-127 from the front (barely possible even with APCR) while I casually chop them down.
....fires ammo when nothing to shoot, doesnt bother tryin to play normal.... yeh this tank is op if someone that bad can have that kind of game
i dont think he really cared about that game :D
What I was quite surprised by was that the Cruiser II on the opposite team wasn't using the howitzer that tank gets. Using that gun makes the Cruiser II quite the nemesis for the Pz. II J.
this is the perfect tank to make new players quit
It was about time for another pz II J video.
now BT-SV to compare which one is more OP x)
BT is more balanced and fun imo. it can actualy be killed by it's ennemies, and its gun doesnt require you 100k credits in gold each game.
Why the fuck is he just spamming his ammo on walls for no reason. He isn't a very good player :/
+Opa Pelailee But he's a rich player...
+jack carrington that dosent make good
No he just does not care, it's a pz 2j
jack carrington True
Jo Simes Well he almost ran out of ammo! 1 more tank and he would have lost all of his ammunation and lost the game.
I dont know why but i love watching these videos
Jingles.. Do a tank review on the mighty Su-76i the Pz2j Killer!
+Bazil Grimstride I guess su-76i is as OP as the Pz2J but it's soo much mroe rare because it's been sold in EU for only like 20h?
Its a Micro ISU-152 So you do the math, gets the same matchmaker as the 2j, and unlike the btsv and the 2j, this little monster can punish tier 4s and 5s!
3-4 hours to be exact
And there was no warning of the tank appearing
The cupola is not a weakpoint. It has 80mm of armor. The only weakspots are the top of the tank, like any other tank, but it can be hit from behind if you are slightly above the tank. And the lower part of armor on the back. Those are both 25mm but are very well angled.
You know, the silly thing about this is, I play on the SEA server and I bought a box set from Russia which came with a panzer II J. Anyway, I asked Tanitha, the producer for the Asia server if i could get the activation code activated and he said that he didn't want this tank on the server but, if i contact support they would do it. So I raised a ticket, sent a copy of my activation code along with pictures of the box set I had purchased and I had my II J sitting in my garage within the hour. Now, here's the thing, Tanitha is the one who decides which tanks are allowed in the premium shop etc etc, he really didn't want the II J on the server and all of a sudden, we have the II J being sold in the shop, so what a sell out. Just goes to prove that it's just about the money and nothing else!!
Also, I have never had a battle in my II J like this. I am always bottom tier and get completely owned by tier 4's, not being able to pen them at all. So Jingles, you failed to say that this is a battle in a thousand. Tell it how it really is and stop making this tank out to be something it's not. Yes, it has great armour but it has terrible mm'ing and so ridiculously expensive to run it's hardly worth the bother. Seal clubbing only happens very rarely!
Edit: Jus to prove a point to myself, I just went into a battle in my II J and low and behold, I am bottom tier and the enemy are all tier 4's except like me one tier 3 (poor bastard). My team win but not because i can actually do anything. I lose most of my health because a marder 38T pen's my angled frontal armour easily and I do 109 damage to him and that is with premium ammo and I have to fall back because his two shots at me have taken me down to 53HP.
So anyone watching this video, don't even think about wasting your money on this tank because it's not just worth it no matter what. If only I could ever get a totally tier 3 and below match with this tank but i know that it will never happen. At $132 Australian, WG are ripping their customers a new arsehole and they don't give a damn, integrity went out the window a long time ago....
+Sir_Forsaken
actually, that's something that wargaming has done recently. It used to see tier 3 matches most of the time. when they "removed" the weak spots they gave it tier 4 match making.
+Sir_Forsaken Does your story continue, or?
Stubbari What more can I say really?
Sir_Forsaken Oh. For some reason it didn't load the rest of the text for me. Ended at "Now here's the thing"..
+Stubbari Now, here's the thing, Tanitha is the one who decides which tanks are allowed in the premium shop etc etc, he really didn't want the II J on the server and all of a sudden, we have the II J being sold in the shop, so what a sell out. Just goes to prove that it's just about the money and nothing else!!
Also, I have never had a battle in my II J like this. I am always bottom tier and get completely owned by tier 4's, not being able to pen them at all. So Jingles, you failed to say that this is a battle in a thousand. Tell it how it really is and stop making this tank out to be something it's not. Yes, it has great armour but it has terrible mm'ing and so ridiculously expensive to run it's hardly worth the bother. Seal clubbing only happens very rarely!
Edit: Jus to prove a point to myself, I just went into a battle in my II J and low and behold, I am bottom tier and the enemy are all tier 4's except like me one tier 3 (poor bastard). My team win but not because i can actually do anything. I lose most of my health because a marder 38T pen's my angled frontal armour easily and I do 109 damage to him and that is with premium ammo and I have to fall back because his two shots at me have taken me down to 53HP.
So anyone watching this video, don't even think about wasting your money on this tank because it's not worth it no matter what. If only I could ever get a totally tier 3 and below match with this tank but i know that it will never happen. At $132 Australian, WG are ripping their customers a new arsehole and they don't give a damn, integrity went out the window a long time ago....
So nice when you buy yourself tortilla chips and you see on youtube that Jingles had upload a video 1 hour ago :D
132 dollary-doos! That's absurd.
+FarmingtonS9 It's $100 USD. You also get 25000 gold (worth 100$,) so you're basically getting a free pz2j.
If you didn't get it, I am Australian and the dollary-doo is from the Simpsons where they portray the AUD as dollary-do's. Not too long ago, a petition was started on Change.org to change the dollar to dollary-do's. I was being a smartarse.
Always love seeing a Pz II J replay
It was Legendary.. but now WG have sold it so many times you see one on each team at lower tiers. And It was overpowered... until the SU-76I came along to counter it. I've ruined many a padders day with that one. Pz II J can't even pen me head on with gold and I only need 2 shots to kill him. And mine only did cost 4 euro, not 99 :P
+Balc0ra's Gaming Haha, when I play tier 3, it's always in the Marder II (115mm or so pen) or Pz II G (90mm+ pen). Pz II J players can suck my dong :D
The Crazy Pineapple
Well it's mostly just TD's that can take it down. But if they can it's usually in 2 shots.
That was a great video and the sounds are amazing. Did anyone else notice that the deflected shots that went of the tank looked blue?
You saying he got blue balled
Jingles please come to New Zealand
yey jingles, in class watching this and I'm proud
get 4 tanks next him on all 4 sides then cap
That Jackie Brown quote was awesome!
God the guy playing that tank is bad, the lack of trigger discipline and stopping to fire hurts to watch
also he doesn't know how to manual reload
+EirikXL the reload is so fast doesn't really need manual reloads ut it does show how stupid this tank is
and when I used to pay that tier 3 derp crusier and get 6 kills plus people woud just go op tank making a bad player look good
This is the earliest I've been in a jingles video
Jingles do you know how many tier 2 and 3 tanks can penetrate Panzer II J from the front? Its armor is not that overpowered. Here we go:
standard ammo:
Marder II
FCM 36 Pak 40
Type 97 Chi-Ha
Type 91 Heavy
Valentine AT
T56 GMC
SU-76M
SU-76I
Type 2597 Chi-Ha (China)
LT vz. 38
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G
Renault UE 57
premium ammo:
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. A
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. A
Panzerjäger I
Stuart I-IV
Cruiser Mk. IV
Cruiser Mk. III
Cruiser Mk. II
Cruiser Mk. I
Vickers Medium Mk. III
Universal Carrier 2-pdr
T3 HMC
T-60
T-26
BT-2
Tetrarch
BT-7
BT-SV
LTP
T-127
T-46
T-70
AT-1
MS-1 (tier 1!!!)
Vickers Mk. E Type B
Renault FT AC
D2
Somua S35
43 M. Toldi III
Großtraktor
Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f)
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t)
M2 Medium Tank
So 12 tanks using standard and 32 tanks using premium ammo that can kill this thing form the front! Thats 44 total (not counting artillery). So there is a lot of tanks that can take this sucker down, but not a lot o f player on this tier know what they are doing.
+Stanisław Szczypuła ad a little bit of angle and its none :D
out those il pick the valentine AT, i think it has the best gun of its tier and has good enough armor to bounce pz2j ammo, hell i took on 3 pz2js in my VAT and just ripped them to pieces,
valentine at dose have armor, the gun sheild may be thin but can be angled between shots to bounce even pz2j ammo....iv done it so i know
did i say all tier 3-4 tanks or just the panzer 2j with 45mm of pen?
im not saying it has armor, it has just enough armor to take on a panzer 2j
when you see a P2j and the word sealclubbers in the tittle...you know it's going to be absolute gold
*likes video even if haven't watched video yet*
No XCOM.
Jingles, what have you done?!
The only thing that sickened me more than the pz 2 J play itself...was the player's absolutely sickening, horrible, complete noob aim. I don't mean to be harsh, but he seemed to want to shoot the scenery more than the enemy tanks. So much skill in right click left click apcr. Oh, the enemy drove behind cover...? I'll just fire a clip into the wall anyways...
+Frederick Schulze yeah, but he still carried with 12 kills and 1400 damage...
+Nathan Excoffon He couldn't be penned by basically anything in the match, no shit he gets 12 kills
GrittyMoonBear My comment was more on how overpowered the tank was, not how good the player was, I guess I should have made the sarcasm a little bit easier to discern.
+Frederick Schulze I guess this shows just how overpowered the tank is. There's the whole fact that a player with that skill set could obtain such a crazy result with relative ease.
I do love 2J videos. I think I'll go and find the Jingles video where two 2Js are trying to kill each other and watch it again 8-)
This guy really needs his pz 2 j, because he played like shit, unloading a full clip on a tank behind a wall while auto aimed? Kidding me? Ok, you dont care about ammo costs, but you can actually run out like that.
+Slartibarfart Yeah, that was bothering me as well.
+Slartibarfart Here's a copy paste of my comment: "The only thing that sickened me more than the pz 2 J play itself...was the player's absolutely sickening, horrible, complete noob aim. I don't mean to be harsh, but he seemed to want to shoot the scenery more than the enemy tanks. So much skill in right click left click apcr. Oh, the enemy drove behind cover...? I'll just fire a clip into the wall anyways..."
I remember the first time i saw this tank way back when and i spent 10 whole mins in the tech tree looking for this tank
Add a spall liner for added lols ;)
+dobiem1 wow... now that's just Inhumane!
Tommy Johansen
Shields up buddy lolol
Jingles the tank package was actually pretty nice (the 25 000 gold cost 131.04$ on its own in the SEA gift shop) so you get the 2 tanks has a bonus
I'm tired of wargaming buffing a tank and then nerfing the tank that can take it out
Jingles I have one of these. The trick to making a profit is to load 200ap rounds for tier 2 tanks and then use prem on anything in tier 3 unless it is a BT-7
this is what the maus should be
this is what the maus used to be like actualy, if you played the game 3-4 years ago that is...
+DEZiiRE_GH0sTy Lee shame i wasn't around at that time, now when i drive the maus it just gets heat spammed and it bloody ridiculous
well back then tier6s could face the maus....
"Join the Navy see the world they said." *joins the WoT community and CONTINUES to see the world ahahahhaha. Have fun man.
A long while back I was taking out my Pz 38H into a match to seal club some poor people, and I ran into a platoon of not one, not two, but THREE PANZER TWO Js!!!
The match ended in a draw. It ended up being me vs the Pz II Js, and nobody could pen anybody, so I just fell back to cap and started derping their tracks when they tried to cap the base. Lol.
You can't fool me JANGLES CLONE.
Some say his father was a TOG 2 and his mother was the HMS Warspite others say he hates onions because they made him cry for the first time... all we know is HE'S CALLED THE MIGHTY JINGLES
Jingles you are the best youtuber I've been watching you since you had 20000 subs keep being tje best
5:42 is when the Cruiser I - namo_33 decided for his team that they will lose.
Admittedly if there's two enemy tanks going up against a Panzer II J, they could probably win. One sits on the cap, the other distracts and/or harries the Panzer II and constantly keeps him tracked, if possible.
been here sub'ed for 4 years u got me into world of tanks thanks
I once met a II J in a tier 4 battle, full mag from my covenanter into his rear and his reign of terror was cut terribly short.
Jingles, you forgot to mention that it has preferential matchmaking as well. It will never see tier five tanks. That is good news for seal clubbers because the Pz II J suffers severely against tier four tanks (at least I had never had problems with Pz II Js when I take out my tier four tanks).
In tier three there are some machines (Marder e.g.) that can hurt the II J from the front. AND shooting HE against the "middle" front plate still works very well. If you can't do that: try to get above the II J it's "roof" armor is very thin. Otherwise: sacrifice your tank and ram it in the side ;)
Unloading the whole clip even after the enemy has died. Autolocking on tanks peaking corners. Not continuing to head back to the cap circle while resetting. Trying to snipe with an autocannon on full auto.
Imagine how fast the game would have been if he was actually good at it!
Pz. II J replays never gets old...
The fun usually ends when the last ones standing on each team are IIJ´s.
Its like toddlers in plate armour throwing cotton balls at each
other... but now when i think about it, that´s kind of funny too.
Everyone's got to have their daily dose of Jingles! :D
What's with the unusual tracers? Mine don't look like that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but despite the low pen, the tier five derp that the cruiser II can mount would theoretically have a chance, yes?
Yes
I recently saw one in a tier 3 game as I was lvling a new line, once I located him I loaded the premium (which I keep just in case this happens) and targeted him with extreme prejudice. His whining when he died was glorious.
My personal seal club tank is my Marder 38T... I normally get between 4 and 8 kills in a match and as a matter of course I tend to do between 400 and 1500 damage.
The Pz2J is definitely one of those vehicles originally balanced around Premium rounds costing Gold. That match would have cost him at least 340 gold. Maybe more, I can't remember if it's the first 2 gold per round tier. That tank definitely didn't get played that much with those operating expenses, and has a hard time killing anything without paying that.
The top plate of the Pz II J is only 25mm so yes it can penetrate itself if you shoot down on it.
Hello from Darwin Australia, love your videos Paul
2 years later. Still watching
You Jingles , you can do a 10 or 20 min video with no word , just your laught ... about anything ... and will take only thumbs up !
almost at 500k subs jingles :D keep it up
The thing is the Panzer II J can be one shot 100% by a cruiser 2 using the derp with heat
I have found that the hatch at the top of the Pz. II J actually is a weak spot and can be penetrated even by another Pz. II J using APCR.
4:42 , what were those electric sparks when those BT tanks shot him? i've never seen that before
lol I've never seen them too o_0
Probably the emperor who's behind all this :p
Haven't you only shown one other replay with this little devil, also in winter-himmelsdorf?
Great vid, that IIJ is just wrong. Kudos for the Jackie Brown reference :)
Well there's almost a 100 dollars worth of gold in the package too jingles.