39:31 Lee outgeneralling McClellan in this campaign seems like a massive stretch, although it‘s easy to see how it might have appeared that way to the Southern Newspapers.
I visited malvern hill. It is shocking how small and narrow the battlefield is. You can easily walk the full perimeter in under 30 minutes. No wonder it was such a savage fight
The "Hill" is really a gentle rise and widely plateaued. it does not resemble a typical hill, like say big and little round top. The Unions left flank was nicely protected by a huge bluff that is not visible. I have to go back and take another tour.
It's a fascinating study in psychology. In 1862 McClellan effectively defeated Lee in the Seven Days Battles, the only one of which was a Confederate victory was Gaines Mill. After the Seven Days McClellan had lost less men than Lee and still had a significant numerical advantage over Lee. But he treated it as a defeat - he created defeat from the jaws of victory. In contrast, two years later in the same part of Virginia in 1864 Lee gave Grant a series of defeats and inflicting terrible losses on Grant, far more than he had inflicted on McClellan two years earlier. And yet, unlike Lee, Grant refused to accept defeats as defeats, and despite his terrible losses moved south, and eventually defeated Lee, but at terrible cost.
I am very confused by the 7 Days Series, but perhaps between my education in New York state, and Texas state, both had represented Lee's campaign as one where McClellan was soundly beaten and decisively so. This whole series; especially with the numbers in the end, shows Lee had assaulted the Union and maybe all but once, failed every single assault, but still McClellan ran. I struggle to make sense of it. I can't imagine any general with or without hindsight, doing that. He was never beaten, but he chose to let himself be beat. It's insane.
To give a simple answer, McClellan was convinced that he was facing 200k confederates which outnumbered his own 110k men. Lincoln refused to provide him with enough reinforcements to successfully combat these phantom legions that plagued his mind. All the while Lee attacked and attacked, even after losing most of the battles, which further convinced McClellan that he was outnumbered.
@@WarhawkYT While his strategy worked in the beginning, the mass casualties this strategy caused came back to bite them in the end. Awful and reckless assaults at Mechanicsville and especially Malvern Hill. Grant could get away with that style, but not Lee. Pure insanity to think your breaking the Yankee line atop Malvern Hill.
Or to say it straight McClellan just needed an excuse to retreat to the safety of the US Fleet guns. As James McPherson and also this chanel pointed out brilliantly McClellans decision to "change base" for the whole Army of the Potomac after the succesful defense at the first day at Mechanicsville was just to abandon the siege of Richmond. The Soldiers of the Army of the Potomac were not beaten decisivly be the Army of Northern Virginia but unfortunly McClellan was a beaten men by his own mind. Cartoons of his cowardly personal retreat to the coastline while his Army was fighting were very sucesfullused by Republican press in the Presidential campaign of 1864. McClellans training commitments in the build up period of the Army of the Potomac in 1861 were important. He would be a competent adminiatrative Inspector General of Chief of Staff but a the Commanding General of the most important Union Field Army he was a costly failure and if McClellan would have won the Presidential Elections of 1864, which Lincoln himself expected before the Fall of Atlanta he would have given away the Union victory by poor judgement and lack of nerves as he had given away Richmond
I remember a quote from Bruce Catons book "Mr. Lincolns Army" made by Robert E. Lee himself after the battle at Malvern Hill. Lee said, "With Rebel Infantry and Yankee artillery I could whip the world!"
Something I just realized that is interesting. I've never really thought about the fact that with all the major battles and duration of the civil war, neither side was ever really able to deliver a decisive blow. No instances where entire cores or armies were cut off and either destroyed or captured.
Thank you for the replies. I have a much better understanding of napoleonic strategy than civil war Era. Knowing a lot of the overall grand strategies were similar I guess didn't get why the fighting in the east didn't play out the same.
The Army of Tennessee was shattered and ceased being an effective fighting force following the Battles of Franklin and Nashville. It’s the best example of an army being destroyed in the field during the war.
Visiting Malvern Hill is one of my Bucket List items. My Great-Grandfather, Abner W Weatherly was wounded there with Company K, South Carolina 8th Infantry.
The 17 year old younger brother of my great great grandfather fought in the battle as part of the Irish Brigade of the NY 69th Infantry Regiment. Peter F Rafferty was wounded and was later awarded the Medal of Honor for his valor in this battle. The medal proudly remains within the Rafferty family to this day.
Thank you for putting the history of Malvern Hill into perspective. My Great, Great, Great, Grandfather Milas J S Parks, First Artillery (10th State Troops NC) was wounded in the battle that day. He died 13 Dec. 1862 from Varicela (chicken pox) at the pest house which was moved to the Old City Cemetery in Lynchburg, VA where he is also buried. Magnificent Video!!
As someone who grew up outside of Champions Hill (part of Grants Vicksburg Campaign) it would be awesome if you did some in the future on the Vicksburg Campaign. I appreciate all the videos!
For what erasing history you voted for wokness not us confederate battle flag is wrong soon chickenhawk will change union flag you nitwit get some nuts
Is this a repeat of last week's video ? At 75 yro my memory is not at it's best, but I seem to remember everything in this video. Perhaps I watched someone else's video of Malvern Hill last week ?
I asked once before why some of the southern regiments or colored and gray and others and blue or tan. You said it was because of the uniforms of the unit. What does tan represent? I am particularly interested in the fifth in North Carolina.
July 1 1862 - just think how much will happen and just how different things will be 1 year from this battle. Almost a prophetic result of Lee trying to attack a strong Union position.
Im not a fan of Mclellan but to be fair at this point in time he was in command of the largest army ever fielded on the entire continent and probably had a hard enough time coordinating with 1 or 2 corp let alone 6 or 7 of them.
I wanted to leave a comment as a prayer to the Algorithm Gods. Another great video, from a channel full of great videos. I wonder why the Union command didn't try to fortify the two hills north of the command; Poindexter's Hill and the other to the northwest. It seems like a couple batteries of artillery on each hill could support each other and greatly hinder the Rebels during their advance and from forming up. Maybe they felt they didn't have the numbers in the area to do it correctly? Just a thought from an armchair general.
bro, I listen to these when I shower. haven't told anyone this! haha. thanks for a killer channel! where are you from? I know it's somewhere in the south.
@@WarhawkYT haha always knew I liked you but never knew why.... Texas, that's why... NC here, thanks again for all you do it's really quite impressive and truth be told I've used your series in educating a few kids I tutor, I've also recommended it to many visitors and young learners who ask me all the time for anything but "more books" haha .. I'm a seasonal tour guide for the park service usually from April to August, sometimes September, I do "walk n talks" at Gettysburg and Pamplin Park, also occasionally volunteer at Manassas battlefield park for private tours.. I also make accurate/correct reproductions of uniforms in private and museum collections for a few buyers but mostly museum displays ALL proudly made in the USA in the mountains of NC correct materials all sourced and made here in the great state of N.C. thanks to a great and very smart and able couple Ben and Beth Tart of BnB tart textiles 2 minutes drive from Bentonville battlefield. I always wanted to do documentaries or work in media ed like your doing but I never seem to get involved, I like educating and speaking directly to people too much to be tempted to video productions yet it seems, anyway have a great day! And thanks so much for your obvious dedication to history!
Hey Warhawk! Nice vid as always, but i have one question: you called Rodes' brigade "Gordons Brigade", but Gorgon will have his comission as a brigade commander only November 1st 1862. This brigade (3rd, 5th, 6th, 12th and 26th Alabama Regiments) was under command of general Robert Rodes, wasnt it? Correct me if im wrong, with no offence, just want to clarify this one :)
While the Army of the Potomac was with McClellan on the Peninsula, there were troops covering Washington under the newly organized Army of Virginia under Pope (composed of McDowell's I Corps, Banks' Department of the Shenendoah, and Fremont's Mountain Department). These formations were already covering Washington, so there wasn't much opportunity to make a go at the capital, not to mention the formidable defensive ring of forts around DC.
This honestly feels like a prelude to Fredericksburg and Cold Harbor. Lee's penchant for taking risks and "stick to the plan" mentality are also present.
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It's crazy how much information you jam into every video. I don't believe one could put more effort into subject.
39:31 Lee outgeneralling McClellan in this campaign seems like a massive stretch, although it‘s easy to see how it might have appeared that way to the Southern Newspapers.
I visited malvern hill. It is shocking how small and narrow the battlefield is. You can easily walk the full perimeter in under 30 minutes. No wonder it was such a savage fight
The "Hill" is really a gentle rise and widely plateaued. it does not resemble a typical hill, like say big and little round top. The Unions left flank was nicely protected by a huge bluff that is not visible. I have to go back and take another tour.
Edwin Jameson the " boy soldier" died at Malvern Hill that day. He was only 17. Cruel fate. RIP in Macon GA.
It's a fascinating study in psychology. In 1862 McClellan effectively defeated Lee in the Seven Days Battles, the only one of which was a Confederate victory was Gaines Mill. After the Seven Days McClellan had lost less men than Lee and still had a significant numerical advantage over Lee. But he treated it as a defeat - he created defeat from the jaws of victory. In contrast, two years later in the same part of Virginia in 1864 Lee gave Grant a series of defeats and inflicting terrible losses on Grant, far more than he had inflicted on McClellan two years earlier. And yet, unlike Lee, Grant refused to accept defeats as defeats, and despite his terrible losses moved south, and eventually defeated Lee, but at terrible cost.
Yes the seven days campain costs a lot to the fresh confederate army...Men that cannot be replaced.
because McClellan is a jabroni
When confidence makes a difference
I am very confused by the 7 Days Series, but perhaps between my education in New York state, and Texas state, both had represented Lee's campaign as one where McClellan was soundly beaten and decisively so. This whole series; especially with the numbers in the end, shows Lee had assaulted the Union and maybe all but once, failed every single assault, but still McClellan ran.
I struggle to make sense of it. I can't imagine any general with or without hindsight, doing that. He was never beaten, but he chose to let himself be beat. It's insane.
To give a simple answer, McClellan was convinced that he was facing 200k confederates which outnumbered his own 110k men. Lincoln refused to provide him with enough reinforcements to successfully combat these phantom legions that plagued his mind. All the while Lee attacked and attacked, even after losing most of the battles, which further convinced McClellan that he was outnumbered.
@@WarhawkYT While his strategy worked in the beginning, the mass casualties this strategy caused came back to bite them in the end. Awful and reckless assaults at Mechanicsville and especially Malvern Hill. Grant could get away with that style, but not Lee. Pure insanity to think your breaking the Yankee line atop Malvern Hill.
Or to say it straight McClellan just needed an excuse to retreat to the safety of the US Fleet guns. As James McPherson and also this chanel pointed out brilliantly McClellans decision to "change base" for the whole Army of the Potomac after the succesful defense at the first day at Mechanicsville was just to abandon the siege of Richmond. The Soldiers of the Army of the Potomac were not beaten decisivly be the Army of Northern Virginia but unfortunly McClellan was a beaten men by his own mind. Cartoons of his cowardly personal retreat to the coastline while his Army was fighting were very sucesfullused by Republican press in the Presidential campaign of 1864. McClellans training commitments in the build up period of the Army of the Potomac in 1861 were important. He would be a competent adminiatrative Inspector General of Chief of Staff but a the Commanding General of the most important Union Field Army he was a costly failure and if McClellan would have won the Presidential Elections of 1864, which Lincoln himself expected before the Fall of Atlanta he would have given away the Union victory by poor judgement and lack of nerves as he had given away Richmond
@@Folgeantrag McClellan is the epitome of "Right man for the wrong job."
If anyone else had been in command, even someone like Burnside or Hooker, the Union army might have captured Richmond in 1862.
I remember a quote from Bruce Catons book "Mr. Lincolns Army" made by Robert E. Lee himself after the battle at Malvern Hill. Lee said, "With Rebel Infantry and Yankee artillery I could whip the world!"
Something I just realized that is interesting. I've never really thought about the fact that with all the major battles and duration of the civil war, neither side was ever really able to deliver a decisive blow. No instances where entire cores or armies were cut off and either destroyed or captured.
Grant captured three different armies at Fort Donelson, Vicksburg, & Appomattox.
Well, Vicksburg, Atlanta, Richmond, and a few out west, but those were exceptional
The days of one grand battle were over. It was industrialized warfare from then on
Thank you for the replies. I have a much better understanding of napoleonic strategy than civil war Era. Knowing a lot of the overall grand strategies were similar I guess didn't get why the fighting in the east didn't play out the same.
The Army of Tennessee was shattered and ceased being an effective fighting force following the Battles of Franklin and Nashville. It’s the best example of an army being destroyed in the field during the war.
Already seen the separate videos afew times , But the long cut is very much appreciated!
youre welcome!
Visiting Malvern Hill is one of my Bucket List items. My Great-Grandfather, Abner W Weatherly was wounded there with Company K, South Carolina 8th Infantry.
The 17 year old younger brother of my great great grandfather fought in the battle as part of the Irish Brigade of the NY 69th Infantry Regiment. Peter F Rafferty was wounded and was later awarded the Medal of Honor for his valor in this battle. The medal proudly remains within the Rafferty family to this day.
Thank you for putting the history of Malvern Hill into perspective. My Great, Great, Great, Grandfather Milas J S Parks, First Artillery (10th State Troops NC) was wounded in the battle that day. He died 13 Dec. 1862 from Varicela (chicken pox) at the pest house which was moved to the Old City Cemetery in Lynchburg, VA where he is also buried. Magnificent Video!!
Thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos!
Thanks CCM!
Awesome content. Thanks for keeping history alive.
Great job. I love how you go into great detail. This was a lot of hard work. Thank you.
Thank you very much!
i love the long ones, thank you for your hard work!
That's what she said.
A great finale to the 7 days.
As someone who grew up outside of
Champions Hill (part of Grants Vicksburg Campaign) it would be awesome if you did some in the future on the Vicksburg Campaign. I appreciate all the videos!
Armistead does the hat trick in Pickets Charge in the movie Gettysburg. Sick scene.
Another awesome documentary my brother !! Keep up the hard work, enjoy these and look forward to them, I’m watching every week for them
Awesome as always!
thanks Dave!
For what erasing history you voted for wokness not us confederate battle flag is wrong soon chickenhawk will change union flag you nitwit get some nuts
My Great Great Great uncle Captain Wesley Mellard of Co D 13th Mississippi Infantry under Colonel William Barksdale fought at Malvern Hill
love the longer videos like this. awesome stuff!
Glad you like them!
Excellent as always, gents, got to this one late, but damned fine job!
Is this a repeat of last week's video ? At 75 yro my memory is not at it's best, but I seem to remember everything in this video. Perhaps I watched someone else's video of Malvern Hill last week ?
nope this is the same video, we consolidated the two parts into a single video for those who would like to watch it in 1 sitting.
Great Job!
Thanks Alan!
Thanks for your effort making this videos.
I asked once before why some of the southern regiments or colored and gray and others and blue or tan. You said it was because of the uniforms of the unit. What does tan represent? I am particularly interested in the fifth in North Carolina.
The colors represent the uniforms the regiment wore
@@WarhawkYT SO, you are saying the 5th NC wore a tan uniform
I think tan uniforms were dyed with tree nuts and called butternut.
@@robertrobert7924 thanks
@@WyomingTraveler yes exactly
Is that when little Mac said im done?
yep it is
July 1 1862 - just think how much will happen and just how different things will be 1 year from this battle. Almost a prophetic result of Lee trying to attack a strong Union position.
Just imagine if the union had a competent general instead of McClellan
Im not a fan of Mclellan but to be fair at this point in time he was in command of the largest army ever fielded on the entire continent and probably had a hard enough time coordinating with 1 or 2 corp let alone 6 or 7 of them.
@@Brandon_737 largest army ever fielded in the Western Hemisphere, a gigantic turd :D
@@tremainetreerat5176 lmao thats rough X)
Well, let's see how well burnside did
It's funny how McClellan, nowadays remembered as an inept General was well liked by his troops even after his defeats.
Great job! Keep up the good work!
super well done
I wanted to leave a comment as a prayer to the Algorithm Gods. Another great video, from a channel full of great videos.
I wonder why the Union command didn't try to fortify the two hills north of the command; Poindexter's Hill and the other to the northwest. It seems like a couple batteries of artillery on each hill could support each other and greatly hinder the Rebels during their advance and from forming up. Maybe they felt they didn't have the numbers in the area to do it correctly? Just a thought from an armchair general.
A war of attrition.
bro, I listen to these when I shower. haven't told anyone this! haha. thanks for a killer channel! where are you from? I know it's somewhere in the south.
lol thats interesting to hear, thanks Im from Texas!
@@WarhawkYT haha always knew I liked you but never knew why.... Texas, that's why... NC here, thanks again for all you do it's really quite impressive and truth be told I've used your series in educating a few kids I tutor, I've also recommended it to many visitors and young learners who ask me all the time for anything but "more books" haha .. I'm a seasonal tour guide for the park service usually from April to August, sometimes September, I do "walk n talks" at Gettysburg and Pamplin Park, also occasionally volunteer at Manassas battlefield park for private tours.. I also make accurate/correct reproductions of uniforms in private and museum collections for a few buyers but mostly museum displays ALL proudly made in the USA in the mountains of NC correct materials all sourced and made here in the great state of N.C. thanks to a great and very smart and able couple Ben and Beth Tart of BnB tart textiles 2 minutes drive from Bentonville battlefield. I always wanted to do documentaries or work in media ed like your doing but I never seem to get involved, I like educating and speaking directly to people too much to be tempted to video productions yet it seems, anyway have a great day! And thanks so much for your obvious dedication to history!
Pretty good show but it's hard to see the maps when you have them crowded with the flags.
Let's Go Battery A, 5th USA(Adelbert Ames) and the Abercromie's Brigade!
less go!
Hey Warhawk! Nice vid as always, but i have one question: you called Rodes' brigade "Gordons Brigade", but Gorgon will have his comission as a brigade commander only November 1st 1862. This brigade (3rd, 5th, 6th, 12th and 26th Alabama Regiments) was under command of general Robert Rodes, wasnt it? Correct me if im wrong, with no offence, just want to clarify this one :)
Gordon had temporary command of the brigade at the end of the seven days because Rodes was sick.
@@WarhawkYT thank you! Cheers :)
@warhawk why did Lee not send a portion of his troops directly to occupy Washington?
Because there were 3 corps defending it at this period
While the Army of the Potomac was with McClellan on the Peninsula, there were troops covering Washington under the newly organized Army of Virginia under Pope (composed of McDowell's I Corps, Banks' Department of the Shenendoah, and Fremont's Mountain Department). These formations were already covering Washington, so there wasn't much opportunity to make a go at the capital, not to mention the formidable defensive ring of forts around DC.
As usual, well made, well edited, well narrated. Great video all around ❤
This guy is terrible at speaking
This honestly feels like a prelude to Fredericksburg and Cold Harbor. Lee's penchant for taking risks and "stick to the plan" mentality are also present.
McClellan was a great corp commander not supposed to be a General of Armies
Rather quiet in here...
Everyone is deaf from the cannons.
I thought so too ...
its not really new content but rather a consolidation of the last two
if the confederates hadn't gone in piece meal, they may have taken the day
Ya, And I have you to thank Joe!!!!!! NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!
Huger is a old clown. Over and over again! he rly gets under my skin!
Magruder and huger is alot alike. over and over again! mistake by mistake!
HUGER= OOJEE????
Yes, it’s french
Huger pronounced U Gee
Wow what a hot mess of a battle conducted by the confederates. Constant poor coordination