That is 100% authentic. I own a 1944 Ithaca and a 1945 Remington Rand. Your finish and wear is very authentic, there are no re-work marks. All of your cartouche's are correct. Very beautiful example of a rare 1911a1. Ithaca only made roughly 35,000 of these, making it more rare than Colt and Remington Rand (less rare, however, than Union Switch and Singer). Thanks for sharing! (btw, your screws are correct).
Ithaca's are more rare than others. Mine was put together in VIETNAM by my commanding officer and a Marine armorer. The slide is Ithaca the frame is probably a Remington Rand. The barrel was a Colt but I replaced it with a Colt target barrel. I don't know how anyone can say yours is one hundred percent Ithaca. Good Luck with it, none the less you have a great shooter.
cross = factory proof, HS = High Standard sub contract barrel, Flaming bomb under firing pin stop = Ordnance inspector mark, Star in grip panels = Keyes Manufacturing Ithaca needed help early on. Flaming bomb indicates ordnance dept help which occured up to approx. sn 1279673. Your stamps look correct. It is an Ithaca Model 1911A1, not a Colt. It has the correct stamps for a WWII production pistol. SN puts production into 1943-44 in the Ithaca assigned range.
Also, the FDA means it was personally inspected by colonel Franklin James Atwood!I think his name was. You can match your slide to the receiver also by looking for the P mark on receiver when the gun Is field stripped and matching P mark on top near rear of the slide.
That is an authentic piece of history, my friend. I have an Ithaca 1911a1 from Vietnam that was passed down from my great grandfather. Wonderful shooter it is, and my prized possession. Keep that thing in good shape, cus it will only appreciate in value if you do. I don’t plan on ever selling mine, though. Haha
I think its a genuine Ithaca 1911A1. I have mine, Ithaca slide made 1943 with a Colt frame manufactured 1915 with 6-digit SN and "UNITED STATES PROPERTY" on the left side of the frame. It shoots well with any brand of ammo and pretty accurate at 1.5-2.0-inch groupings.
@MrColt45acp I am just speechless about your answer! Thank you very much that you found the time for that! This pistol has been and will be one of my little treasure´s in my safe! Thank you very much! Regards from Austria, Eric
IF it's a fake. ... it's a damn good one. All the provenance marks are there in the correct places.. I would call it genuine and NEVER SELL IT. Either way it's a keeper.
It looks real to me. I would check barrel and trigger as well to see what parts they are. Some guns might be Ithaca frame with Remington barrel and singer trigger( for example). Mine was all Ithaca. Nice gun. I wish I had mine back.
Ithica guns company in New York starting making the M1911A1 in 1942 for various military contracts many to US Army. They were the second company only next to Colt to make the M1911a1. And they made them from 1942-1945. This is authentic and you can look up serial number. The P mark means it was tested with overloaded ammo; +p ammo. I have a colt m1911A1 made by colt in 1919. My serial number is in the c111k range made for the Argentina army in 1919 I think. I love the history and mine is a gem too. So is your Ithica. It's very real and worth probably at least 1500$-1600$ range maybe. Cherish it, the most widely used and longest used military handgun in history.
In all respects, it looks like a very nice (and genuine) 1911A1. The FJA is the initials of "Col Frank J. Atwood" who was small arms inspector at Ithaca and Remington-Rand (at different periods.) Ithaca's were known to be "mutts" when it came to parts, but what you have looks to be a very good example of an Ithaca.
Authentic 1911a1. But maybe a "remake" in the sense that it may have gone through an arsenal rebuild process at some point in its service history.. is this what you mean?
That looks like an original Ithaca gun. . FJA markings means Lt. Col. Franklin J. Atwood, the assigned ordnance officer to examine the piece at that time. .
Is your pistol authentic? It looks like it from the stamps. Further examination of the small parts would help verify. I hope this helps you out, let me know.
There was time at the beginning of the War that Colt could not keep up with demand, and they made the frames and Ithaca made the slide assembly. You can go on the Colt web sight and input your serial number and it will tell you if you have a Colt/Ithaca gun, I believe they only did this in 1943 but don't nail my foot to the floor on that, check on colts web page it will tell you.
Hi, is it possible that they got this screw from another manufacturer like Colt in Hartford or Remington? I heard that some parts came from other manufacturers. regards eric
I'm far from being an expert but I can't see why anyone would go through the trouble of faking an Ithica. If it was a Singer I'd be more suspect of it being a fake.
Ithaca, was one of several companies that turned out these handguns for the War effort. I own one made by the General Motors Corporation. Your Gun is real.
That is 100% authentic. I own a 1944 Ithaca and a 1945 Remington Rand. Your finish and wear is very authentic, there are no re-work marks. All of your cartouche's are correct. Very beautiful example of a rare 1911a1. Ithaca only made roughly 35,000 of these, making it more rare than Colt and Remington Rand (less rare, however, than Union Switch and Singer). Thanks for sharing! (btw, your screws are correct).
Thanks a lot for this info, even if there are 350000 of them for me my 1911 will always be a special one! Regards eric
Ithaca produced a total of about 382,000 pistols during WWII.
"FJA" = Col Frank J Atwood; "P" = proof mark (next to mag release); "7" on trigger bow = assembler mark. Crossed cannons = US Army Ordnance Accpt Mk.
Ithaca's are more rare than others. Mine was put together in VIETNAM by my commanding officer and a Marine armorer. The slide is Ithaca the frame is probably a Remington Rand. The barrel was a Colt but I replaced it with a Colt target barrel. I don't know how anyone can say yours is one hundred percent Ithaca. Good Luck with it, none the less you have a great shooter.
It is a genuine Ithaca. It is a lend lease pistol issued to Great Britain!
Nice find!
cross = factory proof, HS = High Standard sub contract barrel, Flaming bomb under firing pin stop = Ordnance inspector mark, Star in grip panels = Keyes Manufacturing
Ithaca needed help early on. Flaming bomb indicates ordnance dept help which occured up to approx. sn 1279673.
Your stamps look correct. It is an Ithaca Model 1911A1, not a Colt. It has the correct stamps for a WWII production pistol. SN puts production into 1943-44 in the Ithaca assigned range.
Also, the FDA means it was personally inspected by colonel Franklin James Atwood!I think his name was. You can match your slide to the receiver also by looking for the P mark on receiver when the gun Is field stripped and matching P mark on top near rear of the slide.
That is an authentic piece of history, my friend. I have an Ithaca 1911a1 from Vietnam that was passed down from my great grandfather. Wonderful shooter it is, and my prized possession. Keep that thing in good shape, cus it will only appreciate in value if you do. I don’t plan on ever selling mine, though. Haha
Nice piece of history you have there!
I think its a genuine Ithaca 1911A1. I have mine, Ithaca slide made 1943 with a Colt frame manufactured 1915 with 6-digit SN and "UNITED STATES PROPERTY" on the left side of the frame. It shoots well with any brand of ammo and pretty accurate at 1.5-2.0-inch groupings.
Thanks for your comment! Regards eric
@MrColt45acp I am just speechless about your answer! Thank you very much that you found the time for that! This pistol has been and will be one of my little treasure´s in my safe! Thank you very much! Regards from Austria, Eric
IF it's a fake. ... it's a damn good one.
All the provenance marks are there in the correct places.. I would call it genuine and NEVER SELL IT. Either way it's a keeper.
It looks real to me. I would check barrel and trigger as well to see what parts they are. Some guns might be Ithaca frame with Remington barrel and singer trigger( for example). Mine was all Ithaca. Nice gun. I wish I had mine back.
Ithica guns company in New York starting making the M1911A1 in 1942 for various military contracts many to US Army. They were the second company only next to Colt to make the M1911a1. And they made them from 1942-1945. This is authentic and you can look up serial number. The P mark means it was tested with overloaded ammo; +p ammo. I have a colt m1911A1 made by colt in 1919. My serial number is in the c111k range made for the Argentina army in 1919 I think. I love the history and mine is a gem too. So is your Ithica. It's very real and worth probably at least 1500$-1600$ range maybe. Cherish it, the most widely used and longest used military handgun in history.
Thanks a lot for your comment, my Ithaca 1911 is one of my special treasures in my collection, I really love it! Regards eric
+Rory Richter how can you look up the serial number?
In all respects, it looks like a very nice (and genuine) 1911A1. The FJA is the initials of "Col Frank J. Atwood" who was small arms inspector at Ithaca and Remington-Rand (at different periods.) Ithaca's were known to be "mutts" when it came to parts, but what you have looks to be a very good example of an Ithaca.
Authentic 1911a1. But maybe a "remake" in the sense that it may have gone through an arsenal rebuild process at some point in its service history.. is this what you mean?
@mflo11 Hopefully, but I will never sell this pistol, I am just happy that I got one of these.
That looks like an original Ithaca gun. . FJA markings means Lt. Col. Franklin J. Atwood, the assigned ordnance officer to examine the piece at that time. .
I carried one in the early 80s when I was in the US Army stationed in Germany.
Is your pistol authentic? It looks like it from the stamps. Further examination of the small parts would help verify.
I hope this helps you out, let me know.
You gotta DREAM Gun Brother. NE VER SELL it cos it's pure History! Who knows where that 1911 has been.
Fine 1911a1,Authentic ,treasure,carried that model in Korea 1976..MILITARY POLICE
Thanks for your comment! Regards eric
There was time at the beginning of the War that Colt could not keep up with demand, and they made the frames and Ithaca made the slide assembly. You can go on the Colt web sight and input your serial number and it will tell you if you have a Colt/Ithaca gun, I believe they only did this in 1943 but don't nail my foot to the floor on that, check on colts web page it will tell you.
** 350,000 not 35,000**
A very real Ithaca 1911. Wish the Chinese made copies that good. 😂
looks to be authentic, and in very good shape.
really enjoyed the vid
Thanks! Regards eric
Thank you very much for your answer, the most important thing for me is that it is no chinese fake. regards eric
Hi where his Ithaca is stamped 7 , mine is 0 , can anyone elaborate on the 0 mark
@lanceshizzyy Thank you for your help! Regards from Austria, Eric
Hi, is it possible that they got this screw from another manufacturer like Colt in Hartford or Remington? I heard that some parts came from other manufacturers. regards eric
that looks kinda real u can see the bit of rust and how black it is but its possible to be a remake but looks very real
I'm far from being an expert but I can't see why anyone would go through the trouble of faking an Ithica. If it was a Singer I'd be more suspect of it being a fake.
Ithaca, was one of several companies that turned out these handguns for the War effort. I own one made by the General Motors Corporation. Your Gun is real.
+Steven McElroy Thanks for your comment! Regards eric
Did you know international harvester made firearms during the Second World War ?
Very interesting, never heard about that! Regards eric
Are you sure that GMC made 1911 A1 during WWII ???
Bloke where you get it
Is ithaca and colt are one?
WW 2 Ithaca Model 1911A1 Pistol .45 acp Everything you would want to know about that pistol.
Thanks a lot, I already had contact with MrColt45acp, he gave me a lot of information. Regards eric
HS= HIGH STANDARD
It's not a Colt. It's an Ithaca and yes it's the real Mccoy from WWII.
nice one..
Looks real to me!
Looks like the real thing. But look up the sn to be sure. Could even get some history.
WW 2 sure
It looks real just like mine I have a SN of 1218400 anyone know how we trace them?
@MrEk78 Go to m1911.org website and you'll find everything you ever wanted to know. Good looking pistol....
I think this is worth a lot of money!!!
Have one, not fake. 1944
Send it to me immediately.
Dude that’s a real one it is not fake
Rework stamps
Fja shows its real Frank J Atwood
VERY REAL!!! NOT A COLT. ITHACA was an excellent gun company. Real WW2
Keith Thomas I rather have an Ithaca than a colt these are more rare
It’s real
trur
I can tell you that i'm a real expert in guns from ww2 and it's seriously a real one.
123ACTION! Thanks a lot for your comment, I love this peace of history more and more, one of the special treasures in my collection. Regards eric
And i'm only 12 years old
Sorry to tell you it is fake i have 5 Ithacas the screw on the handle is wrong