The Problem With God of War Ragnarok... And Its Fans
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2023
- This is a rant about God of War Ragnarok's horrible, outdated, and bad aging game design. I give ideas that can easily fix this broken formula for future hardware as well.
While this IS my thoughts and opinions, no one is losing here with these updates. Simply NOT agreeing to move along with these fixes will result in nothing but tedium for the years to come for this franchise.
Don't bring up the "Then play the old games" argument. Bring arguments that make sense. I love the old games more than anything, but that doesn't mean i SHOULDN'T play the new games which i also love. Don't bring up any "Then don't play it" on us. The combat is what's keeping me engaged forever in gaming. Cooperate. 
Игры
Just wanna make one thing clear, and it's that it's FINE if YOU enjoy Atreus sections and combat, fine if you love walky talkies and unskippable cutscenes.
All of that is totally fine, fellas. I'm saying _i_ don't enjoy that and would prefer to have options to skip them, speedrunners don't enjoy these much, neither do challenge runners, and many other gamers don't enjoy them on repeated walkthroughs.
It is fine if you like having a little break after a difficult encounter. All of what i hate about this game is fine if it all stayed in the game. I'm saying give me options to decide if i want to play them or not.
You prefer running to a mystic gateway(that might take some minutes sometimes), enter and wait for another gate, and THEN arrive to your realm, over a 10 seconds loading screen? Over the traditional 'FAST' travel rules?
It is FINE if that's what you prefer. Me? Speedrunners? Challenge runners? Game replayers? Combat enjoyers? RUclipsrs? Guys who need to test something in a realm and come back to business after being done in a 'FAST' way?
We would rather have an option to access an ACTUAL fast travel through the map menu. We would rather skip walky talkies, skip Atreus sections, and for the love of GOD.
SKIP. CUTSCENES.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW INSANE IT IS THAT THE GAME DID NOT *SHIP* WITH A CUTSCENE SKIPPING OPTION.
Again, a mission select hurts no one and fixes nearly every single issue.
its like they chose not to watch the video and just commented
Speed runners and RUclipsrs are such a niche category of gamers. They would they never tailor the game that way off rip.
I hate atreus
#skipcutscenes 💯
Ng+ will have skippable cutscenes 2018 game didn’t have it untill ng+ came out
Modern God of War fans seem to think Gow 2018 and Ragnarok are the only good games ever made and will fight you if you even dare to criticize them.
This lmao I've seen people like that, and I'm not afraid to say most of those are scrubs who never touched a GoW before the modern ones.
God of war fans when they find out it wasn’t the first game to do the single camera take:😳😱😱
That's because it's true. Old GoW games are awful, didn't play them when they came out and they're outdated. Clunky, boring, ACTUAL bad game design. I thought I was losing a "passion" for gaming until Ragnarok released. I've not had a game drag me in like that since in five years. Ragnarok is one of the best games of all time imo.
@@kamay7021 Tell me you played on Easy without telling me you played on Easy.
@@Gui_Silva_GIA I played on give me no mercy and I’m on GMGOW now
Both Ragnarök and Elden Ring fans gains full rage meter the moment you say something slightly bad about their games
Blame hype culture for that. Companies pay more money just to get people convinced that their game is PERFECT before even playing it
@@YEY0806
Not fromsoftware tho
Tbh most ER community acknowledge its bad sides like the dungeons, caves, boss reuse and etc..
GOW Ragnarok community on the other hand..
True, the only thing that bothers me is Elden Ring fans hating and talking trash even though they won over GoW Ragnarok, they pushed them, stomped them and then start spitting on them too.
And the moment I say "the combat is unrealistic and unimmersive" everyone treats my statement as if I'm Santa Monica's wh*re
Sorry for the way I'm saying it, they're so aggressive BOTH SIDES
Yup. Ragnarok fans are slightly more anoying with the "Gow is deep" and Story bullshit, but both can be anoying.
The moment I fully watched the "a disaster disguised as a masterpiece", I realized why I felt so bad discovering the world after story and so many other flaws in the story. People should open their eyes, I'm with you
This isn't about Zesty disliking Ragnarok though.
@@astralchaos3441 I know, but he mentioned this exact video that I said. In this video, you actually feel why something is wrong with the game. I'm not disliking it completely either, I was just more aware of the flaws and it did bug me that I didn't see it the first time
@@Amir-gn8nc Fair.
Combat was okay personally, it felt more like a sidegrade than an outright upgrade to the previous Norse GOW, like Ragnarok was afraid to be a sequel.
The story was honestly my biggest issue however, the game's advertising and the hype around it kept telling everyone that it *was* Ragnarok, the biggest event where several great Norse figures perish.
Yet all we really got was Dad of Son 2. Ragnarok was literally just a family drama when it was advertised as a full-blown war, almost like a return to the heights we saw in God Of War 3.
But if you criticise absolutely any of this, you are immediately ridiculed by the fanbase because the story is absolutely perfect or whatever.
When we accept mediocrity, we get mediocre games.
Tell me about it lol.
It was Disney Soap Opera. That Ratatoskr shit is straight out of Marvel. Thor is fat as shit and doesn't have a single muscle definition while his wife and daughter have some. He is also depressed alcoholic. Odin is just a weak old man. He is supposed to be War God and usually uses disguises to appear as old man yet in this game he IS old man. Freyr is a joke and acts like some funny guy from Marvel, him and his Avengers squad. Freya uses bow and arrows like some random human soldier and Atreus sings lullaby songs. Why is Atreus Loki??? It spits on his name lol.
Only Heimdall felt like a God and a threat. Everyone else look and act like trash.
And Kratos??? What a bitch he is lol. He killed like one God in this "apocalypse" lol. His "must be better" is so fucking annoying and the "open your heart to it" shit. Last fight lasts for like 30 minutes and you fight two Gods in front of Jarl's hut from Whiterun.
Absolute clown world if you ask me.
Greek Gods (and era as a whole) >>> Norse Gods
Your last sentence is what is happening with many people today. Mediocrity is permitted or unrecognizable because it's so very very common nowadays. "Oh at least I can throw this axe, I'm having fun, so I don't see how what you're saying makes any sense". It's being content with the bare minimum because many are so used to the bare minimum being done for games. Just because on a personal basis someone may like a game, that is just not an excuse to attack criticism of a game or defend a game from criticism. (Or return your criticism with their own criticism of a previous game of a franchise. Someone really did that with Zelda Ocarina of Time, specifically with the eye switches you had to target. I have seen so few complaints about it, a personal and practically petty complaint that almost no one has ever had)
One of my biggest issues with Ragnarok is that the you get the heavy runic attack after so long and I feel like there’s something missing without it
You get your first heavy runic attack late if you only do the story. Doing side quests in midgard alfheim and svartalfheim get you them before halfway through the game
@@mrsandhu1215 correct but I don’t like doing side quests during story quests in the first playthrough so that’s still an issue for me
@@lightmohamed5700 Maybe you dont like openworld design like this this isn’t a linear god of war game that you just focus on the main story this game is a hubworld base that you need to explore doing side quests and main quests at the same time.But i do agree with the runic attacks its very limited and you only get alot of good runic when you do side quests
@@sakuragi1062 I do like openworld design but if the Game want to force me on side quests to get the stuff I should usually get for normal its.. it’s just wrong
@@lightmohamed5700 the game needs to reward you for doing the side quests, it isn’t necessarily forcing you to do anything since you can do them at any point that you feel like 🤷🏽♂️
They literally act like it’s a crime to not like these new games. I once said that I liked the Greek games better and I had dozens of comments just telling me that I’m blinded my nostalgia or just plain stupid. I started playing this franchise in 2020 so that nostalgia insult is just completely wrong.
"Uhmm sorry that you don't like this MATURE game and don't like this MATURE developed version of kratos" 🤓
I feel you man, I've been having this issue with the community since day 1 but for the story.
How dare you critique, bro? This game perfect.
Don't lie man. You can express your feelings but most of the people that respond to you are pretty respectful and have valid arguments to counter yours and you yourself realize things that make the story better as you watch it more because you didn't pay attention in your first and second playthrough. Your opinion is respectable if you didn't like how some parts of the game were executed but it doesn't mean they are not well done and people were just pointing out how they are well excecuted and written, not putting any kind of issue...
@@andresdanielem Exactly man
Honestly the only part I hate about God Of War Ragnarok is the Atreus and Angrboda section, the reason why I hate that section is because it was too long and boring to play through, and most of it was a walking and farming simulator, but other than that, I really liked the game
The giant gramma fight was cool too
@@darthmaul4454 that was probably the only thing that was fun in the section, and maybe the racing scene, but other than that, everything else is pretty much the same.
The endfight of that section was brillant tho..only that Part was a bit to long...dont have that much of a Problem with it as most ppl here...i dont get it
And the main reason to not play again that game.
This was also a massive issue with gow 2018 fangirls. They could never stand to hear any criticism of their holy game. One thing that’s actually hilarious is one guy said he was more experienced than me because he platted ragnarok. He got humbled very fast when I told him to look up my profile and he saw i platted all gow mainline games (except for 1 at the time, done now), not that that’s even impressive, lil bro just didn’t know what he was talking about.
p.s this story is about a ragnarok fan but gow 2018 fans are the exact same
Seriously, on reddit during 2018's heyday if you dared to criticise it, the "fans" would scream bloody murder and act like your a retard.
How much platinums do you have?
@@F62541 11
What was the discussion about?
@@n_word_gaming nice
I had a similar experience with reddit. I pointed out an issue I had with Ragnarok , which being the characters not shutting up in combat for example "use a shield strike" like I know I have eye balls. I got massively down voted to oblivion, at least some sane god of war fans came to my aid. Just because you love someone doesn't mean it's immune to criticism, without criticism how are people going to improve.
I likely saw your post at one point. To be fair reddit has an issue with downvoting in general. I've seen it in every subreddit where someone says something and gets downvoted all the way down to hell despite it being a genuine question or something
I gonna be honest here Reddit is stupid but yes they never shut up in the battle it’s so weird
Don’t go on Reddit haha. But yeah, I agree
reddit is soooo toxic lmao. dont take it personally over there. they represent the worst of society LMFAO
How dare you touch my game and critique it like that? That's assault and i wanna talk to your manager!
this is why definitions are important. Nobody knows what "outdated" means. People usually use it when talking about an old game that they don't like, but pretty much nobody can give you a definition. For you outdated might be one thing and for him, it could mean something completely different.
Fair, honestly.
The wildest thing is that I got flamed by my friends when I said the story was mid and the Angroboda sections sucked the life out of the game, when they didn’t even play the game. They just watched a play through.
Ahh, so they played the game on youtube? Good.
The Story is flawed. Wouldn't say it's mid.
@@astralchaos3441 You people are the reason we keep getting games with 25 hours of cutscenes and 3 hours of gameplay.....
Stop pretending you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about..... I don't want to hear it ....
Do you people have ANY clue how expensive and labor intensive all this motion capture bullshit is .... It's 95% of the development budget.... Understand? Good.
It's the reason you only get 3 hours of gameplay.
The Last of Us 2 has 9 HOURS OF CUTSCENES. 9 hours - probably $200 million dollars - 2000 people earning $50 an hour.....and on ....and on ....and on.....
Is this the future of "gaming"???
This industry is a pathetic joke. It's a dumpster fire....
The story is irrelevant. This is a game - not a movie. Understand?
Red Dead 2 had the same problem..... The game is literally in the Guinness book of world records for the longest input lag..... ( 5 seconds ) ..... Electromagnetic signals travel at 300,000 kilometers per second..... My gaming console is 5 feet away from me.
Do the math.
.... Something seems a little off.
Something I've never seen anyone talk about is the fact that companion armor doesn't give your allies buffs anymore, this is especially unacceptable for those atreus sections where you just have to go with the stats the game devs give you, I just feel like companion armor has no value especially when atreus has 2 new armors and they get lazily re-skined same goes for freya but she at least got the queen armor which looks nice but doesn't do anything to help out, just feels like lazy design tbh
The most disappointing thing I found about ragnarok is that vanaheim looks nothing like what it looks like in freya's house. It's just a jungle, and it's a pain to traverse it. The design their looks good but I wish we could got the other design.
if they made gow ragnarok in 2000 the game would have mission selection, cutscene selection, a movie mode and a combat mode, challenges, secret collectibles, concept art, model showcase, weapons showcase, training mode, dummy mode, cheats, OST player, dev mode, play as atreus the whole game, play as kratos the whole game with secret dialogue for doing that, hud scaling option etc
wtf kind of 2000’s games are you playing that has ALL of that let me in
@hubbybubby7867 I think he means a lot of these features were present in 2000s games
Norse Fans can never handle criticism towards their favorite games, nor can they accept the fact that Old Kratos is weaker than Young Kratos.
"b-bu-but Cory s-s-said old k-k-kratos is s-stron-n-ger" 🤓
it is true that some of the fans of the new GOW games can't handle criticism but old kratos is stronger as in his strength and RAGE than GOW Ghost of sparta - 3 Kratos...
old kratos still has remains of the power of hope mind you that kratos only used the power of hope twice so all of kratos' feats (apart from ares' fight with ares and zeus at the end of GOW3) is very impressive even at his weakest aka GOW ascension where he takes down the 3 primordial beings who aren't bound to anything such as time itself which scales them to immeasurable speeds but anyways old kratos just got stronger as he aged because hes a full God now... don't know why many ppl believe that kratos got killed by thor when kratos only got knocked out because 1st, the death screen isn't canon and was just meant to shock the players thinking that they're dead withing gameplay... 2nd thor isn't even the strongest Norse God... magni and baldur are supposed to be stronger and more powerful than thor in GOWs universe... when magni was just a child, he lifted a giant that fell on thor who couldn't even lift up the giant himself and magni easily lifted the giant up and baldur is stronger because of him going against the world serpent where he defeated in 3 hits but kratos descibes both of thors and baldurs strength quite similarly because of how kratos explains thors strength in the journal which is almost the same as kratos' first fight against baldur in the GOW novel where the impacts are just as hard as he thought before but that doesn't mean that both are just as strong as each other nor the Norse Gods being scaled to the Greek Gods...
Yet saying who's stronger is based on assumption. I can see what both version did and deduce that A lifted a rock and A² lifted a car. Tho it doesn't mean that A can't lift a car like A² did.
@@godzillazfriction “Old Kratos still has remains of the Power Of Hope”
He only has a small fraction of Hope left. If he releases it, he be around the same level as the lesser Hope Kratos in GOW 1, possibly even weaker since we can’t quantify how small it is.
“Old Kratos just got stronger as he aged because he’s a Full God Now”
I don’t know who told you that but Kratos isn’t a Full Fledged God anymore. He’s lost Hades’s Soul, and he no longer has his GOW Powers. He’s only a Demigod now.
Young Kratos is both magically and physically stronger than Norse Kratos. He possesses Hades’s Soul (which makes him an actual full fledged God), and he possesses the Blade Of Olympus (which contains his GOW Powers that he draws from). He was able to overpower Hercules; in the 12 Labors, Hercules replaced Atlas of holding entirety of Greece. Greece contains infinite realms such as the Upperworld, Underworld, Heaven, and Domain of Death.
@@fisiax5460 Yet that logic is flawed in this scenario. Old Kratos lost all of his amps, and Godly Powers.
I know people will get mad at me for even mentioning it , but i think last of us 2 did this balance between experience and replay best
The main quest is great but it’s hella slow ,and would get old on other playthoughs BUT
You have the option to pick a specific chapter , whenever you feel like it , to get the specific part of the game that you want to revisit
But even better , you can pick any of the main encounters in the game , and replay them as many times as you like
This way you get the best of both worlds
See? A full on story game doing SOME of its job (being a game) better than a game that is supposed to be a game.
That's the thing tlou2 did a lot of great things gameplay wise but it was overshadowed by the hate it got some of it was valid hate and some was just stupid
Mission select is a must when it comes to long story driven games like GoW 2018 and Ragnarok. I do not see how anyone could disagree with Zesty on this one. Replayability is a huge factor of the Greek Era GoW Games, and it should be for the new ones too. Let's hope NG+ adds a mission select feature and some armors from the Greek Era too, preferably the God Armor and the cape from the beginning of the game.
Critiquing something means you like it and you want to improve it
Thanks for saying it, man. The world of twitter is not ready for this sentence.
,,to help make game better'' yea sure only if developers listen but they won't @2_e28k8
Moustachefa tried to make sense out of Twitter. What could possibly go wrong? NPCs be NPCs.
No Brain Run+
Mission/chapter select is a feature that is such a simple concept that it just shows arrogance whenever a developer insists that it "breaks immersion" or whatever new bull crap they'll use. The same goes with NG+ and skipping cutscenes. For example, the Mr. Freeze boss fight in Arkham City is something I'd love to replay without having to start an entire campaign all over again. There's a reason that a combat-focused gamer like myself often gravitate towards games like Sleeping Dogs, Midnight Fight Express, Hotline Miami, Sifu, The Darkness II, and so on. All these games have that core feature of replay value without the need to bog down the gameplay experience with too many unskippable cutscenes. For a first-time playthrough, it's fine. However, the ability to go back and play the best parts of any game should be an industry standard.
i will never understand the reason why they refuse to put a skip cutscene option at release
I definitely agree with your take on unskippable cutscenes. I don't care how plot heavy a game is or how important the cutscenes are to the story, in my opinion, EVERY game should have an option to skip cutscenes. Sure, they make for a great first time viewing experience, but on subsequent playthroughs or if you end up dying and have to redo a certain part, when you have to keep watching the same cutscene you've already seen before over and over again, it just becomes obnoxious and completely ruins the pacing of the game. This doesn't just apply to Ragnarok, by the way. It applies to any game that doesn't allow for cutscene skipping. Even if they add an option to skip cutscenes in a post-launch update, it's a basic feature that should have been there from the very beginning.
I personally don't mind video games having a bigger emphasis on story and long cutscenes are not inherently bad, but at their core, video games are supposed to be VIDEO GAMES. They're not movies. When I play a video game, I want to spend almost all of my time actually playing the game. If I wanted to watch a movie, I would just go to the movie theater or turn on the movie channel.
You want to have a bunch of story-driven cutscenes in your game? Fine, by all means, go for it. But for the love of God, please just give us the option to skip them at the very least!
Yh and theres a another of ppl...me f.e., i wanna have both...im in 3rd playtrough now and dont even use the New skipping Option, why? Cuz i like These moviescenes after a hard fight...👍
@@komix1873 And that's completely fine. If you want to watch the cutscenes, you totally can. But like I said on another video, there are people like Zesty here who don't want to sit through a cutscene they've already seen before and just want to get back to the gameplay, and the developers should be taking those people into consideration as well. Adding an option to skip cutscenes pleases both sides. If you want to watch the cutscenes, you can choose to not skip them, while the people who don't can now skip them all they want. Everyone's happy in the end. We all play video games in our own way, and that's great. So by all means, you go ahead and keep on watching those cutscenes. More power to you. And the people who just want to get right back into the action-packed gameplay and would rather skip the cutscenes? More power to them as well.
Kratos: the idiots at Santa Monica Studios have abandoned me, now there is no hope
*and replaced me with Freya Sue and little boyness
I totally agree with you Zesty. The recent Norse god of war games has had terrible replayablitiy design. You should be able to skip cutscenes, have an encounter mode, chapter select, character select mode, adding the option of loading screen instead of going through the realm between realms, having a walke talkie skipping section, etc.... They mostly should all be in the base game except for a few others cuz some probably takes a while. The new game plus i can understand why it isn't in the base game cuz they add armors and shit (maybe add the bare-handed tree as well plz) but everything else should be there. The game is excellent in a lot of aspects but objectively the relpaybility is terrible compare to the greek gow games. Me subjectively dont really care cuz this type of game I'm here for the story and gameplay and I wouldn't skip any cutscene 95% of the time but there always some points where I wish I can could. If these companies are so big on accessibility, they should have these feautres in the base game. And for the fans thing, I just think the gow community is just so toxic and divided they are bound to be some people to blindly defend their fav game. GOWR is my favorite game of all time but even I can see its flaws. It would really suck if they don't add these features to new game plus cuz it could really enhanced the game even further. And people are crazy asf thinking you hate the game. You defended the ragnarok battle, so that just goes to show you still fuck with the game, but you just want it to be better!
I don't understand GOW4-RAGNA's combat, any tips for me?
also eschatos and outrun has done the one-shot camera before
For gow 4 spam runic attacks as much as physically possible, most fights will be gone within a couple of seconds also do as much side quest as you can you should be able to easily over level yourself aside from the bosses the best advice I can give for that is just to gIT GuD.
God of war ragnarok on the other hand has much weaker runic attacks so you can’t just spam them although they can still help you get out of tough situations. Do not button mash that will easily get you killed look for the red and yellow rings on enemies before they attack to learn their patterns this can also be useful in god of war 4. Another thing for both games use your companions to distract stronger enemies if your struggling with them. For customization I recommend using the stone wall shield if you’re Struggling with the combat as it can block yellow ring attacks but personally I think the guardian shield is the best shield in the game for the rage mode i personally think fury is the best but use valor if you’re struggling with low health. some people say wrath is the best rage but it’s not good for new players as it is complicated.
One last thing change the controls to the classic style!
I LOVED 2018 but Ragnarok didn't click for me, maybe it was the pacing.
It's just a bad game. Awful story, awful characters, awful pacing, combat is alright but too much visual noise.
Even tho there are some scripted sections in old gow, they are still exciting as hell, like what is more exciting getting killed by the king of the gods or carrying a boar around
What's more fun fighting thor or balancing on a beam
When Atreus being revealed as Loki leads to nothing. When the mystery of who blew the horn leads to nothing. When Atreus meeting jormungandr in the past leads to nothing….wtf were the writers smoking?
I feel like kratos "holding back" has more to do with the devs trying to be more pc than a story arc. Cause if it was just for story purposes they could show kratos letting lose somwtimes. Like an alcoholic still sometimes turns to alcohol
Like thor
Kratos has been alive for over 100 years post God of War 3. The man probably hasn't had to "let loose" in a long time. If an alcoholic hasn't turned to alcohol in that long of a time, then it's safe to say that they aren't an alcoholic anymore.
So what does Kratos holding back have anything to do with being "PC"?
@M.A.K. Dynasty it makes the game less violent so it can be consumed by a wider audience
@@kobecross3298 The Heimdall & punching Thor scene IS him letting lose. They're not as violent as before but that's him tapping into his old anger.
@@HishamA.N_Comicbroe that kinda proves my point
what i would like the most is to skip the cutscenes, mission select would be great so if u wanna replay the missions without having to play the atreus mission u can do that or just play whatever mission u want to without having to start a ng+ every time. the thing i want the most is a menu where u can replay every boss encounter in the story and optional bosses like gna and the berserkers without having to make multiple saves for every boss (way to many saves) or starting a new ng+ every time u wanna replay them. i rly love the story but what keeps me replaying and probaly alot off other people is the combat and getting better / fighting bosses and not the story so i can fight odin as many times as i want without having to replay the entire story cuz i dont have saves for every boss
I never thought that you were hating on this game. Despite loving the game, I can see that your criticism is fair and very understandable. The cut scenes being unskippable is literally outrageous!!
Not surprising. It’s the same mistake they made with the 2018 game before the ng+ update.
@@Littleknockoutkidmac I mean for the first play through it's understandable that the studio would want the audience to appreciate the cut scenes and even walkie talkies. That being said, they literally make it ten times harder to replay the new games than it is to replay the old games.
@@alibaghdady9710 careful. One could argue that even the old games wouldn’t allow players to skip cutscenes. Just look at god of war 3. They might not feel as long as ragnarok’s or 2018, but it’s a flaw that’s been there a whole longer time.
@@Littleknockoutkidmac that's true but the games being much longer and having about ten hours of cut scenes really makes this flaw show even more than the old games
But why would some1 skip cutscenes before even finished it once?? I dont even skip them in my 3rd ng+ playtrough...i dont get it...
Soooooo anyone know when NG+ coming? Sometime soon?
The fact that game didn't include NG+ at launch is the biggest mind fuck to me, like.. do you not want people to replay the game again? Many armour and handle combos are tied to optional or endgame bosses that by the time you get to leaves you with empty map pretty much unless you go and to trials over and over again.
Not sure if you played or care for FF games, but FF7 remaster IMO did amazing job of giving you the semiopen/linear world gameplay with story, but the moment you want to you get to skip the boring shit and just jump into the boss rush or hard story fights with Chapter select or Chadley respectively.
damn this shit aged like butter, we're now getting a free roguelike pure combat dlc
Damn, if the video is that long...it means its gonna be interesting!
Gow 2018 brought in a whole new audience, and now it's more toxic than ever.
You should most definitely be able to replay all the berserkers encounters, the lack of replayability is disappointing
That was the most annoying thing in that game. I've had my defense on more than 800 and they still managed to cause so much damage which makes no sense. The logic is supposed to be building defence is kratos to be able to EAT the attacks to minimize damage like wtf
@AlexTheDominator1453 you're meant to play against them flawlessly so you're able flood youtube with "no damage gmgow berserker fight"
@@redcenturion88 where did you learn English, in Disneyland? Speak clearly
There are fans and there are fanboys. Fans give credit where credit is due and take critique where its applicable. But them fanboys dgaf about anything beside what they want
Yeah it kinda hurts considering a lot of development time goes to mocap and acting, takes ages for them to act it and then animators have to clean it and then artists have to set the scene etc. This is what takes so long with these games, it's great for a first time run but it's unnecessary. I personally love the new story they have but they could speed up development a lot, I think the single camera shot thing especially hinders them from a lot of things, sure it's kind of impressive if you're looking at it casually, technically it's a pretty easy feat if you set the cutscenes up correctly, it has also been done in a ton of other games too, GTA 5 for example did it way better in my opinion.
Wait wait wait now that I think of it, did we ever get an explanation how Kratos survived after GOW3 or how he got to Norse Realm?? I didn't play Ragnarok.
I love GOW and Ragnarok. This man is 100% correct. I've jumped ship for DMC5. Don't get me wrong, Mihir Sheth locked down a metal combat system in Ragnarok, but the quality of life updates of new game plus don't beat a mission select system. An I dig playing as Atreus, but I can't deal with the "immersive," -- sometimes pretentious -- story scenes.
I 100% agree with you on this, as a massive fan of the old god of war games i can't really enjoy god of war ragnarok. It just doesn't feel like god of war to me anymore :(
I tried replaying tlou2 and I got the same feeling I have with God of war ragnarok. I "played" for over an hour and didn't get more than a single combat encounter, just walkie-talkie parts and what feels like 14 cut scenes
I’m 50 years old I got some Viking blood I just beat this game today I think it’s one of the worst games I ever played in my life and I’m a veteran gamer and this game sucked everyone that worked on it should be fired
Man i just wish for new games to be like the old ones , you start the game , boom! Welcome to fighting! Press square for light attack and triangle for heavy attack ( not particularly these buttons , it could be anything ) and you progress with combat , your dopamine level increase as you play , you get goosebumps as you play , you hear badass dialouges , you impove your combat you unclock new skills and so on ... ; games nowdays are becoming fuc*** movies! Like whyyy are we walking so much and just talking?? pleasee give me dopamine please make me excited ! Old god of war games wereee greaatt man , for instance, in gow 2 when you are fighting the colossus of rhodes , in the seccond encounter he tries to squish you , but you lift his whole body weight and throw him!!!! Like wtf im an ANT compared to him and i lifted him? You get goosebumps you get dopamine you are excited , in 2018 and raganrok kratos lift heavy things aswell but just in cutscenes and boring walking encounters not in real fights ! , such a waste oppurtunity for devs to make a badass scene of kratos lifting mjolnir and throw it back at thor , we just see that kratos trying to lift mjolnir and then gets jumped likee do you even know what the fans want?? We want kratos to kickass ! Ok he is calm now ? Great let me see him kick ass when he is calm , after feww hours of walking you see kratos smashing heimdall arlight thats great , then you go back to walking and movie again , man i remeber like every old gow dialouges from everycharacter , even the npc soldiers( gow 2 soldiers saying dialouges like die with honor , show no mercy! ) ; we remember them even tho they are not important characters because you are in action while hearing them , you have dopamine , but man i don't even remember the most of the ragnarok dialouges , they dedicated 2 hours of atreus and angrboda talking and i forgot the most of their converstation because it was boring ! Man i installed a ps2 emulator on my highend pc and playing old games like gta VCS , GTA LCS , Dead to rights , RE4 and .... even tho i have a ps5 ; bacause they are much more entertaining than new titles
No matter how much I ADORE ragnarok, even I know and believe this game has flaws.
I just wanna make something very clear.
NO GAME IS PERFECT. ALL GOW GAMES HAVE THEIR FLAWS, DMC HAS ITS FLAWS sue me. RED DEAD HAS ITS FLAWS. Zesty speaking major facts here.
Hello,good video, have you played Onimusha?
Good Critique. Some games are too Story focused for their own good.
Most of GOW 2018 and GOW Ragnarok fans never play the old games and they will say it's bad because of the graphics, story, clunky, etc
Gow “fans”
even if it had skip cutscenes there is still a lot of places where you cant move but the camera doesnt take it as a cutscene but still you have to watch a 5 minute long animation over and over again like inside the profecy paintings things or riding that bull and man I've been playing the new game plus for 5 hours now skipping the cutscenes and I feel I just played about 3 hours of the entire thing, the rest was going in the boat or long alleys with kratos talking to someone
From a gameplay/combat standpoint, Atreus is completely redundant and useless. Atreus was in GOW 3....he was just called the *Bow of Apollo.* They really came up with (recycled) a whole character and backstory for a periphery combat gameplay element that already existed in the franchise at 2010. I got lots of love for GOW 2018, but when you boil the Norse games down to their essence they are just repackaging and remixing of all the core gameplay/combat elements of the Greek games, just presented to the players in a different package. *There is virtually nothing new implemented in the combat since 2010.*
GOW 3 (2, if that's your preference) is and will always remain the peak and most refined GOW game/experience. A single boss fight of your choosing from the Greek games is better than the entirety of the Norse saga.
The 3 is amazing has a Ragnarok Game
Ragnarok in 2022 is just fight this 3 areas, Boss fight in A HOUSE and Next Boss fight without creativity
Zeus pull teleportation, clones even the fuck#_# black ghost, Odín Who Can transform in Tyr and is more a god of Battle than a mage never pulls a good trick
Only a SHIELD and a whip
Whn playing Ragnarok on GMGOW where I’m constantly being tested for my gow skills and basically only can get hit once during encounters,in my opinion it’s great to chil & relax during long cut scenes & walkie-talkies after dying 50 times trying to beat a certain enemy or area
Brother, it's FINE if you want that. As i said, it's fine if you want to be immersed, rest and chill with cutscenes and walking sections, maybe try out some Atreus combat, be completely inside the game and have a good time with the narrative for however many times you want.
I'm saying _I_ and a huge number of people want to replay to perfect combat scenarios. You want to chill after a hard encounter? Fine. Perfectly fine.
I don't want to, Speedrunners don't want that, challenge runners don't want it, and any other player that just wants ACTUAL gameplay does not want that.
It's a critique for the old games as well. THOSE also didn't allow cutscene skipping without NG+, but the difference is that the old God of Wars have 2 hours of cutscenes MAX, while the new ones have around 10 hours of cutscenes and walky talkies.
I forgot to add in my comment I agree one hundred percent with you that there should be a skip scenes option & level selection like they got on last of us 1 & 2
@@ExtremeGameplays1 With the Cutscenes, yeah for example Gow 3 had 2,5h of Cutscenes, which may not seem long but is still quite a lot for a 6h Game. The New Gow's are much bigger do obviously there'll be more Cutscenes in those games.
Pandora’s melody behind the video 😢😢😢
Even Santa Monica has great use of criticisms. They aknowledged that Npc's spoiling puzzles was a flaw, despite reviewers not mentioning it, and it's now much more likely that it'll be fixed.
I would love to watch a video about your thoughts on soul sacrifice since you have a ps vita
Everytime I play this game it’s always a bug .still can’t get past the damn ice wall
Honestly. I hate the Atreus sections. They are honestly boring knowing the sections we play in aren’t explorable and for the most part have nothing to go back to. Mostly it’s the same experience each time unlike with kratos. The stupid one shot camera really limits story telling. Imagine if when we hear about Faye fighting Thor we got a little cutscene. Or showing the destruction of the crater. Or showing some of Surtrs past in a way other than the particle shows.
I love GOW, Yakuza, RDR2 etc.
I agree with most if not all of the youtube video criticism on the story of GOW Ragnarok. Ragnarok does not feel like what Ragnarok should feel like. I did not feel that I was at the end of the world in the end. That was one of the worst things in GOW Ragnarok.
I found a small solution to ironwood. Just put it into story mode, don't bother picking up loot. Turn the sound off, put some music on. And you can get through it in around an hour. 😊
man, would be great if you make a video with some things that you expect for the new game, (talking about combat and gameplay, since it's your main focus), in my opinion they should stick with the current gameplay style with the addition of a jump button for Kratos, of course, for this to work they would have to move the camera a little bit further, but the game would gain SO MUCH, imagine the possibilities of combos by using the throwing mechanic + the jumping, even exploration would be upgraded by the addition of platforming, also, I wish they get rid of the companions, I want the square button as another combat tool for Kratos, maybe magic or something like that, after all, if they are going to add a new weapon for Kratos, the most ovious way to access it's by using the up button on the D'pad, and currently this button is used to change the type of arrow Freya or Atreus uses...
Gatta say the worst part of ragnarok is traveling once you finish the game. I 100% the game and it was hell to travel and get the little things. Other than that the game is like a beautiful movie with amazing combat
I love how you said this. i hate the cutscenes. i liked some of them. but some were unneeded for it. maybe the end cutscenes, and the thor part, or even freya getting her wings back is what i didn’t skip in new game +. the video was literally made into reality two days later, yes i counted the days don’t @ me.
My biggest problem with it is genuinely the story. Like seriously people praise it for that and it’s not even good. It reminds me of endgame which is factually just a fan service film with little focus on actual in depth story beats beyond maybe one or two scenes. The rest is a glorified carnival ride with a lot of fighting and killing.
God of war is insanely bland especially with how they demonize Odin. He’s the Allfather and he could have easily justified much of his actions by simply explaining himself. But no... he’s just evil madman obsessed with knowledge... basically an even worse version of Zeus from the original games.
Lacking complexity and depth. Honestly the community just gets off on the idea of people who think they are monsters and pretends that alone is good writing. It isn’t. It’s edgy and over the top. I’m literally laughing my backend off listening to Thor talk about him being a “destroyer”... honestly just put him in Mortal Kombat if he’s gonna be that dangerously simple.
And before I get it. Character development matters none at all. Especially since it’s not even done properly in the game. Kratos says he doesn’t want a war...
Yet when Odin offers peace he says “no” like a moron. It doesn’t matter if he even is lying... you don’t want war then take the deal. Hell how tf do we even know that Odin does want one? Because Mirmir the guy who was imprisoned for betraying the Asguardians says so? Please...
Its shameful that this game was advertised as Ragnarok, the massive world ending event that saw about the death of many Norse figures, and kept pushing the hype and advertising to make it seem like we'd be seeing another massive event like we saw in God Of War 3.
Instead it was just a family drama. And all we really got to indicate that the game was about Rangarok was the final quarter of the game.
It's pretty obvious why he says no he was lied to and used by gods his entire life and he knows Odin wants a war because of Ragnarok and why wouldn't he trust mimir. Also Odin is obviously a bad guy why would him explaining himself justify his actions he's also nothing like zeus
Whole walking, talking and cutscenes are good for the first time you play the game or play after a long time to revisit the game. That's it, because people hardly play God of War games for the story, they want to PLAY not watch the game. The story they get the first time but second time onwards they want to play.
If you think people hardly play any of the previous God of War games for the story, I don't know what to tell you. God of War has been consistently praised for its great story telling since the first game and is one of the many game franchised to prove that video games can have great gameplay AND story telling without sacrificing one for another. Do not devalue what God of War has done for the gaming medium.
@@m.a.k.dynasty4504 I am not saying those games are bad. They literally started the hack and slash genre, but I am saying that if a person played the game once loved the combat and wants to play again so next time he should be able to play the game consistently.
this is why i've started and finished older games almost 10 times (maybe more) each
I haven't played ragnarok but I have played 2018 and One complaint is that I absolutely hate is the way you travel through realms, we have to first go to broks shop and then we have to get inside the travel room and select the realm and then we have to wait 5000 years for the animation to load and then we reach the realm, this is just so annoying, I heard that they fixed it in ragnarok and I am happy since travelling through the world tree is still better than this, the worst part is that they were thinking of adding the option for us to be able to travel realms through the realm between realms door in gow 2018 but it required a loading screen for the ps4 and thats why they never added this, i dont understand why they hate loading screens so much and there are still loading screens in this game like when you load a save file or skip a cutscene
The Goat is back 🐐🐐 but actually i agree with you half of Gow Ragnarök is bad to replay i actually i get 100% in every realm and all max armors and builds but i haven't replay it 3 time just 2 times i Hope NG+ remove these boring sections
WHEN AM I GETTING NEW GAME PLUS FOR GOW RAGNAROK?!
Sounds like every fanbase ever created. Film from music to movies to games and TV shows, die hard fans do not understand the importance of criticism. And they usually hypocrites because when they critique something they don't like it's okay but when you critique something they love you're in the wrong. The the video game industry as a whole lives off criticism, if we don't criticize the things we like they'll never get any better.
Look at dmc 2 criticized for its poor gameplay and then they went all out with 3. The reboot was criticized and then decided to go with a DMC 5. The DMC series is a perfect example of why criticism helps the games.
I once got into an argument with a guy who said, quite unironically, that Ragnarok was literally perfect because it made a lot of money, and that it literally has no flaws.
Ragnarok is like 6/10, max, gameplay wise. An 8/10 would be Arkham Knight, or Insomniac Spiderman and a 10/10 is Devil May Cry 3&4&5.
Have you ever played DMC4?
@@newgodv9624 Yes, yes I have. I never said it was a perfect game, just that it has perfect combat.
Theres fair criticism and than theres people just being a hater because a game they don’t like gets well received or can’t play on the box they own i stay away from them people
The only thing I didn’t like about the game was when you went to fight the dragon in vanaheim it would glitch out and you have to reset the game or restart it. To beat the dragon that would attack you had to used a another glitch that supposedly got you the items from the fight but I never got them which piss me out thankfully that didn’t stop me from getting my first Platinum Trophy. So the glitch from the dragon not attacking and the other glitch to beat it while it won’t attack didn’t help me out which piss me off and I hope when the new game plus comes out the glitches will be fixed.
The new fans are so obsessed with the idea that 2018 and Ragnarok are perfect in every way and also outshines all of its predecessors (Yes they even say the music is better)
The music in all God of War games are equally good, so what does it matter if they like the newer music more?
@@m.a.k.dynasty4504 Thats were you are wrong. They are not equal, 2018 and Ragnarok has okay music but the trilogy is just another level
@@tadrosse3786
Okay. That's your opinion. I don't share it all. Every song in all of the God of War games were excellently composed and fit the atmosphere and spectacle of the series. They are equal. And this is coming from the mouth of someone who has experienced the God of War series since it's very inception, so don't even try to pull this "new fan" crap on me as well.
@@m.a.k.dynasty4504 They fit indeed but looking at it from an overall perspective its clear that the trilogy had superior music, you are the only one who thinks that they are equal I never denied the fact that the new gow music is decent but its not on par. The only music that rivals the old music is deliverance and thats about it
@@tadrosse3786
No, I am not the only one who believes that they are equal. You are just the only other person opposing me right now. And what is this "overall perspective" that you are talking about? From a pure technical standpoint, many of the tracks from the newer God of War games are more complex in their composition and production value. The scores are designed to coincide with the scenes as they play out and ramp up our ease down accordingly.
The boss fight scores typically elevate their tension in coordination with the advancing stages adding in vocals, more instruments, etc. as can be seen in the very first battle against Thor in Ragnarok. The closest thing that I can remember to the original games coming close to achieving something like this are two occasions in God of War 3. One where "The Glory of Sparta" theme immediately ramps up as soon as Hercules enters the fight and the other during the 2 Zeus boss fights that use a different intro for "Brothers of Blood" in each battle.
The one thing I believe that the older God of War games did much better than newer ones is how the created more ambiance during the quieter moments of the game's by using using actual ambient music instead of mostly pure silence.
This is why I believe that the music in the games are equal even if they are technically on fully even terms. Each saga does something better than the last, but ultimately, it's your personal preference which one that you like better. However, saying that older soundtracks are superior without question is definitely a bad take. I love many of those old OSTs and even listen to them outside of the games from time to time because of just how good they are as songs, but the way the newer God of War OSTs are produced is definitely what has me listening to them more often these days.
I still don't know why preferring the newer God of War music over the older music (Or just anything from the newer games for that matter.) bothers you so much. They're good games and brought many new fans to the franchise, which is also good. Sure, it is annoying seeing people not appreciating the older games, but many new fans have gone back to experience the older game sout of curiosity and have enjoyed just as much if not more than the new ones because God of War is a franchise that has always been about preserving quality since the very begining.
Why bother Zesty? Clearly the new gow fans are story lovers, which is ok, and they don’t care about combat. They are also butthurt when someone says that there game isn’t perfect. Hell, you even ranted about gow3, which is your favorite. They are blind from the critics, saying the game is perfect when it’s not. The same guys that don’t understand Kratos character and say the old saga sucks. L fans+L Norse saga
it's a bit of a contradiction for you to say 🤓'L Norse saga' when you yourself said that 'they' dont understand kratos' character.... the problem i have with your comment is that it's too black and white... for me I always valued GOWs story from the beginning especially its gameplay formula but I definitely think that GOW as a serious is popular because of its story... look at the outrage the fans had when Ascension came out... not only they changed quite a lot about the combat and the addition of multiplayer but ppl complained that it was a prequel and that the story didn't even matter because kratos' story already someehat ended but there were ppl who wanted something greater but some where just tired from GOW as well as other things elsewell
and it's quite ironic that you're basically acting the same like the so called 'new gow fans' where they bash the older games.... ffs why can't we just be nice and just be in the middle
@@godzillazfriction I understand your point of you view. But, my dear friend I understand Kratos character more than you do, trust me. See Santa Monica, that fabulous company, changed Kratos character. What a lot of people like you don’t understand is that gow is a tragedy. A Greek tragedy. As a Greek myself I know I thing or two about what a tragedy is. The gow3 ending was perfect, chaos, hatred and Kratos being the broken man that sacrificed himself. That’s where the game should had ended. There shouldn’t be any continuation. Why do you think the company made the new ones ?? For profit. Do you really think they care about the old fans (Greek saga). They don’t give a fuck. The moment they saw that the new Kratos sold crazy amount of copies, BOOM the whole formula changed. Now in the Norse saga all of the sudden kratos lives( yeah I know about the curse) but you can’t after 6 games changer his character. I get it that he grows and is more calm but why for what reason there is Atreus and why he started conquering the Norse worlds. What’s the point in all, since in 3 all he wanted was peace.
And about the black and white. There is no in between you either hate the Norse and love the Greek or the opposite, and it’s not our fault but the developer’s
@@donalddarko10 oh stfu with the 'I understand Kratos character nore than you do, trust me' - don't fucking come at me like that when I already debunked the 'Nobody understands Kratos' video in the comments where the youtuber got involved into it which Zesty got inspired and that's where I also debunked Zesty's characterisation of kratos from GOW 3
@@donalddarko10 and wtf do you mean by 'a lot of people like you'
They think they are proper scalers believing old kratos is stronger cuz of statements
Thank god someone else noticed it, the biggest issue with the gow community is that they cannot accept criticism and as soon as you say something bad about gowr they come at you like crazy it sucks it made me dislike the community a lot
i get the point being made here but I don't think it's bad game design as much as the change in genre. Despite the combat being great and a nod to the old hack and slash games the game is honestly closer to a narrative focused open world game like RDR2. The first 6 games are definitely hack n slash. Highly replayable individual sections, 5-10 game length, and gameplay being encounter focused with building combo or rank. I find it a bit silly to say that straying away from this style of game is poor game design even though there is flaws with the game itself. As someone who went from playing 2018 to GOW 2005 initially, I was a bit off put by how different the game was. Eventually I had the itch for GOW after ragnarok and played through the original 3 and the 3 spin off games and ended up really enjoying them.
After that I went on to play other Hack n Slash games like DMC5, MGRR, and Dante's Inferno and now the genre is one of my favorites of all time. I could imagine approaching new GOW being a longtime fan though would make you more attentive to these issues. My biggest issues with GOW 2018/Ragnarok were the puzzles being uninspired and some pacing issues in Ragnarok.
Oddly I didn't really have an urge to replay specific enemy encounters or sections of the game despite really enjoying the combat but would rather replay bosses so I'd have manual saves for them.
RDR2. A HEAVILY story focused game, offers the option to replay missions...
If that doesn't ring some bells, i don't frankly know what does.
Genre change? Correct, but the combat is still really good and is fun to perfect. Fellas who want to replay? Uh uh uh. Not this day, Joe.
@@omaralsharabati5873 Interesting take although I’m confused by it having played both Ascension and the newer games
@@ExtremeGameplays1 With RDR2 replaying segments I suppose makes sense since it has a mission structure. The mission structure and gameplay is honestly the worst part of RDR2, NakeyJakey explains it well especially since I went back to get gold on every mission and found it tedious. Which I think really highlights the issue of gameplay/combat sections in these types of games. Sure replaying sections in RDR2 to perfect them would be great and all but the gameplay itself is really janky and isn’t justifiable on its own.
Ragnarok on the other hand I think you’re right about, it has a good balance between combat and narrative but the replay value is sort of lost. The primary reason I think this is is because of shift in genre causing the game to be a 30-40 experience with narrative value. The original GOW games have amazing replay value due to being shorter in length at around 5-10 hours and being completely linear. The newer games aren’t completely linear having sidequests, and longer dialogue sequences detracting to the experience of jumping from enemy encounter to enemy encounter. The original series never had to accommodate these things because they were completely linear and never had dialogue sequences in gameplay much to begin with besides a tiny bit in GOW3. Which is why I primarily see this as really being a difference in games, neither game really has a mission select like DMC or MGR either. Yet I’d argue the method of backing up saves to replay specific sections is easier in GOW:R, the biggest issue I really find here is dialogue sections not being skippable which I’ll admit was quite annoying when NG+ing 2018. While I can agree GOW2018 and GOW:R could’ve done more to accommodate gameplay better I don’t see it s a fatal flaw especially with NG+ almost definitely resolving unskippable cutscenes.
The biggest issue I really find is the missed opportunity of Niflheim not allowing for a sort of reflection of strength like Sekiro (another game I really love for replay value due to how quickly you can beat it on subsequent playthroughs), I think using niflheim better could be a great solution to your criticisms as a way to replay various encounters although I personally would prefer bosses since the Ragnarok seems much more boss heavy with about 70 bosses.
I tried to replay it but i can't I really hope new game+ fixes more than one thing cause i want to enjoy the game but i cant
sounds the same as the dmc5 community. they couldnt accept that the games enemies are just punching bags and a downgrade from prev dmc games
Honestly, I don't like the Atreus walkthroughs. it was my least favourite in the game. AND i miss kratos being alone. I really miss the old one man missions. sure, if they allowed you to cboose weather you want a companion then once in a while I would get a companion to fight with me.
My first run, I had a good time. Recently, Ive had a hard time staying engaged on a second play through. Im not once to ignore pros or cons of the game itself but I do find the shift in my feels jarring.
I mean a few bad experiences don’t make a trend
But I forget the time we live in
My biggest gripe with Ragnarok was that I felt 2018 set up a really majestic world that Ragnarok went out of its way to ‘humanise’ so we could get another family-drama instead of a mystical Norse Epic.
I was hoping 2018 was just a set-up for a larger-scale game but Ragnarok for the majority of the time was the same (but somehow more annoying) family-drama with a side of saving animals.
And hey, maybe that’s what you wanted, but it definitely wasn’t what I wanted from a series called “God of War”. Just my honest opinion.
I just got this game yesterday too, so far it seems alright, not great yet but alright. I do love the fighting style so far, the controls are a little odd but all in all it's definitely got great acting and emotionally deep and intense moments. I haven't found anything wrong with it other than the controls are hard getting used to. It feels like I'm playing god of war to me but it's just a different camera view and animations, really.
Yall mad at synthetic man for telling the truth lol
Oh yeah for sure he did say the truth, the truth that he doesn't like to parry multiple attacks, doesn't adapt, lied about rpg stats not mattering, and the final nail in the coffin, doesn't pay attention to the story
truly one of the synthetic people of all time
The Norse God of Wars don't even feel like a God of War game at all, yet so many people don't even seem to care about it goes to show that majority of GOW 4 and 5 fans ONLY played the new ones and are ignorant fans who barely know anything about the REAL God of War games. Also, God of War wasn't meant to be a Third Person game with RPG elements and with long cinematic like gameplay with a massive amounts of story dialogue, thats not a god of war game, they feel more like Skyrim instead.
There are valid criticisms - like Zesty’s - and then there is this. Just say you can’t handle change.
A right critique can fix a game
Conclusion: gow3 is still one of the 10 kings of gaming
The pacing towards the ending and certain the plot points regarding the mask are two big gripes I have with it. I still love the game to death though.
Kinda surprised the Chapter select from GOW Ascension never returned
Same
And Ascencion even had an skip cutscenes option even if it was your first playtrought lol
@@ivanmartinez743 but you cant skip ingame cutscenes
@@creeperYT9824 Yup, there some cutscenes you can't skip, but they're nothing comapared to Ragnarok ingame cutscenes man...
For how half-assed it is, it still was a very neat addition.
Just because the new series is different doesn’t mean its bad both series are great in there own ways
He didnt say its bad?? He loves the game but on second playthrough its hard to play the game with all talking sections and cutscenes… and atreus sections 💀
Tell me you haven't watched the full video without telling me you haven't watched the full video.
It's fine to not listen to a 40 minutes rant about your favorite youtuber's favorite game, but if you're gonna leave a comment, see where i'm coming from and carefully listen to what i have to say.
@@ExtremeGameplays1 😂😂😂
@@GowSpeedrunsAndMemes hopefully ngplus has skippable cutscenes which i think it will I remember ghost of tsushima not being able the skip scenes
The issue with every community is that there will always be that toxic side which doesn’t allow you to have an opinion.
The game is overall good imo but that doesn’t make it perfect. 2018 was a very good game but it had its issues too, the lack of enemy variety for example. It’s because people complained about it that they fixed it.
Personally, I really liked Ragnarök but I ain’t riding SM studios’ meat and give them praises where it’s not due. Whatever comes next for this series, I want it to be better. I want more balance between story and gameplay, no more fake climbing, better fast travel, better mechanics, I want them to commit entirely in what they do, the verticality they bragged so much about is not present as much as it should in gameplay, Atreus gameplay feels incomplete and doesn’t evolve much throughout the game, there are multiple ways they could’ve made him more enjoyable.
I am no game designer and I know how hard it is to make games nowadays and that this is still a PS4 game but I really hope they learn from their mistakes the same way they did for 2018 and make the next entry of this franchise a banger.
As a fan that’s all I want, to play a good game
When a game released in 2022 (GoWR) STILL suffers from unskippable cutscenes just like games released in the mid 2000s (GoW1, 2), surely it's safe to say we're not improving?
Not at all. It's excusable (to some extent) that the old games don't allow it. Those are 5 hour long game with 2 hours of these 5 being unskippable cutscenes, the new game? 10 hours of nonstop, unadulterated cutscenes and walky talkies.
@@ExtremeGameplays1 It's not really excusable though. A Third of Gow 3 was Cutscenes.
Gow3 is 5-6hours that had 2 and half hours cutscenes and doesn't have NG+ and yet no one ever complained I like gow3 but I don't want to replay a short game half of it cutscenes and I have start from level 1 because shit it doesn't have NG+
Didn't like Ragnarok after I finished it. It's good but It didn't feel like It was a continuation of 2018 but a story that could just stand on its own because most of the plot threads from the first was forgotten about Not to even mention the tone change. It was more about dialogue, family connections but forgot this is God of war and Ragnarok. This game wasn't Ragnarok nor even a fimblewinter just something else. The gameplay mechanics although good don't make me feel strength. All the stuff that showed that got removed.
Edit: even tlou2 say what you want about that game but I love it and it had encounter select and chapter select🤣
yep people are too busy going ''' OMG GOD OF WAR'' they don't accept the fact that Ragnarok's Plot is fucking stupid respectfuly, some old man does bad things cause he wants a mask that grants him the purpose of his existence, main character refuses to start ragnarok until some blue dwarf dies even tho countless died before, loki want's answers but he destroys the mask that's gonna give him the answers to everything, now everyone mad at old man cause they destroyed his hopes and dreams , Erectile dysfunction ending, marvel level, yay.
Im sure when ng plus comes out it will have skippable cutscenes like 2018
You're on Twitter , that's the problem
Something that burns me inside or more like a lot of things are:
This game is black or white not just "good or bad game" because of the public, no the game is gods bad except Tyr giants good
In the myths the giants are CAOS meaning are good bad even neutral as AEGIR and the gods are ORDER not just good because they create mankind because they have they own agenda
Naaaah here they tell you about Thors giant mother or Freya being good even if she kill like a lot of gods in the war but she is GOOD AND ODÍN BADDDDD
Other example the "whale" (lynkbark or similar), if the creature is LORE ACCURATE setting free means like the whale killing a lot of dwarfs BUT HERE is good you only do good things
If the mission was from The Witcher you could CHOOSE killing, free or do nothing about the "whale"
BAD DESIGN WRITING and they are gonna pull a GOW Loki egypt even if they wanna "not doing a trilogy"