Wow. This was ahead of it's time. Can only imagine the miles of film it took to record those slow motion scenes. Love the Hogan one at 29:33 You can see how he goes from a cupped left wrist at the top of his backswing to a bowed left wrist at impact with the left arm and shaft in a straight line. Priceless!!
Watching this in 2023 ....70 years on from when this was made ...absolutely wonderful . One tiny issue ..no mention of left handed golfers . I'm one of them but I guess just reversing it all works the same.. I often wonder with the new gear we have now , how well Sammy Snead , Ben Hogan , Cary Middlekoff etc would go with their beautiful swings ..It'd be incredible to see eh..
Great stuff! Wonderful summary of the best golf techniques of the 1950's and 1960's. Love the reminder to let the left side control the swing; and the inclusion of the forward press. Basically the swing in those days was triggered and controlled by the hips and legs. Now days left side control, and forward press are gone. Now it's upper body in the back swing and lower body in the down swing. Works great; but it is not as natural as these old swing techniques.
Fantastic...I love this game. Great video...very grateful! Will help everyone break 80 on a regular basis. Many do not love the game enough to watch, study, and learn. Peace!
Snead had such a huge shoulder turn because he had such a huge hip turn, which look like they turn about 60 degrees, a good reason why his swing and game lasted so long. Many of today’s players that have maybe 25 degrees of hip turn and with some even less, and why so many are having back problems before they reach 40. Nicklaus had a relatively injury free career which in no small part is due to his big turn of the hips in backswing.
@Dean Mitchell everyone's hips eventually go regardless of if or how they play golf. Playing a professional sport is going to be hard on the body. If it's a choice of back injuries in your 30s or hip injuries in your 50s, it doesn't seem like difficult decision.
Scott Willi A PURE GOLF SWING, ON PLANE, HAS NO TIME DEFAULT. 🏌️ ⛳️ MUCH LIKE BASEBALL IN 1919 IS BASEBALL IN 2019. ONLY THE EQUIPMENT CAN CHANGE FOR THE BETTER... THE “PURE” SWING ON CONTACT NEVER WILL.
9:24 - Sam Snead's first move from the top, pulling the lead hip back, but not letting the trail hip come forward. By far the hardest thing for amateur golfers to learn. Once you get this move sequenced correctly it opens up access to a lot of power in the swing.
@@nigelskipping7941 Most amateurs think the hips only rotate. If one moves, the other must move too, but what we are talking about is hip (pelvis) depth not rotation. The hips can be thrusted forward toward the ball at address or they can be pulled back (depth) away from the ball. Once the amateur golfer learns how to do pull both back, the next thing to learn is; First, pull the trail hip back (depth). Second, pull the lead hip back too, but don't let the lead hip rotate forward. When done correctly both hips will be pulled back away from the ball. At first it will feel weird and very difficult to do, but after a while you get real good at it, just like Sammy Snead!
@@Mr8T1 - Try this with no club. First, stand straight up normal, then bend your knees a little and push your butt (hips) back a lot, like you're about to sit down. At this point, both hips are back correct? This first point is to get you to understand you can have "both hips back at the same time." Second, stand straight up again, but this time, only push your trail butt (hip) back just like before, as if you were going to sit, and stay standing like this as you do the 3rd part next. Third, while your trail hip is still pushed back, very very slowly push your lead side hip back too as if it was about to sit down, however DON'T let your trail hip come forward to the standing position. This may take some practice, just start very slowly, and after a while you'll master moving both hips INDEPENDENT of each other. When I first was learning how to do this, I literally had to hold my trail hip back with my hand while I pushed back the lead side hip. Eventually you'll understand you DO NOT have to spin the hips, instead you can push them both back in sequence, one after the other.
At the 28 minute mark he mentions that professional golf is a job. This is what people seem to forget, that the reason McIlroy, Woods, Koepka, and every one of them are so damn good is the fact that it is their job, and they work every day at it, and hard. 90s shooters don't even practice, and yet they expect improvement by using tips and subscribing to instruction sites. Golf, if you want results, has to be worked at. Don't expect ridiculous things.
Ok buster, explain why I can't even break 150 when I've been practicing 4-5 times a week for 4 months now. Come on, let's here that fucking wisdom. Tell me why all the gudies and irl tips aren't working for me even tho i try hard? Exactly, so shut the fuck up.
This is the moment when golf instruction took a wrong turn and started obsessing about static positions as seen on slow motion cameras and on course playing lessons were replaced by swing lessons conducted on a driving range. So many of these "5 fundamentals of all sound swings" are just things that happen when you swing smooth and relaxed with a good swing speed, they aren't things you actively try to do.
Snead had quite a weak right hand grip and the V formed by the thumb and forefinger of right hand did not point to the right shoulder as the video said, but pointed more toward his chin or left eye. And Snead definitely did not have a 3 knuckle left hand grip more like 2 or 1.5, in video when he actually grips club with both hands he weakens the club from what he was demonstrating his left hand grip.
Exactly right. My guess is that the instructors knew that amateurs would slice even worse if they showed Snead's neutral grip as the recommended method.
You really need to rewatch this when he opened his hands to show each one he put his left back to the strong position. Watch other videos of Sam strong left with a neutral right. Same as Jones
Andrea Bowman when Snead is showing his grip with the left hand only he initially does take a strong 3 knuckle grip with his left hand but then he moves it back to a weakish neutral grip before he puts the right hand on. You can tell Snead had pretty much a weakness neutral grip because at the top his left wrist is pretty flat and the toe of club is parallel to his left wrist if Snead’s grip was strong he would need to Cup his left wrist to have the toe of the club pretty much pointing down at the top of his swing.
the golf swing is not a swing or a turn, that is the miss conception, that's what you see, it took years to understand this, after watching video after video then the pandemic come in and finally I got it now I'm shooting in the top sixties ....
This film from the fifties exposed the weight shift myth. In spite of this, many club pros continued teaching a weight shift from left to right and back left for years. It was a trend until Stack and Tilt made it a focal point not to do so.
The latest technology of the time. Imagine what Jones, Hogan, Sneed, Palmer & others would have done with trackman & other modern devices. Or would they just laugh and say, ‘tell mr trackman to do this...’, followed by a sweet, crisp strike.
Mike Haynes Jones put out some instructional video back in the thirties and Hogan watched it to learn. Hogan’s wife father was the local movie house projectionist and would play the films over and over again for Hogan.
O yeah there's one... that's why i told "nothing said" but watch carefully if you know where ! You can work on your swing for a zillion years and strugle without the constant of the swing !! Ben Hogan did not say but he gave a hint
Forget the swing man first order of business is learning how to dress with supple clothing..there is a firm reason why PGA pros have discontinued the old button down and tie..restricts somewhat a smooth shoulder turn
@@ag358 yes he did..he also had a supreme pronation with a closed stance and over the top move..try wearing this instead of a normal polo and youll see an instant change in your swing..most like not good
This is Hogan after Power Golf and before 5 Lessons. check out his grip - lot stronger before he put the thumb on top and stated to win. and look at his reverse pivot! No wonder he later dug it out of the dirt.
@@ag358 Hogan's swing was legendary because of the ball flight it produced and the way it looked live and in person. This video ignores those 2 qualities of the golf swing and promotes the idea that you can reverse engineer it by recreating little details that can only be seen in stop motion. It mentions "that elusive quality known as rhythm" during the intro but then omits it when discussing "the fundamentals of all sound swings". You could hit all of these "fundamentals" and still look like Charles Barclay.
Except for the misogynistic demeanor and other comments common to film featurettes of this time, I thought the material was very good. Especially considering this was without video cameras or computers. High speed film (that took a long time to process) and decades of combined experiences touched on several nuances I thought were only discovered since video and computer analysis.
Not going to watch this ….. I would have been a 1-year-old when this was produced. Hard to believe that in my own lifetime, stuff like this was common - condescending vibe which sounds like the presenters are talking to children or intellectually-challenged adults. The disturbing thing is, people accepted it.
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Out on the course I've started incorporating high trousers and I've shaved 4 strokes off my game.
unfortunately, we can all see that you shaved those legs too ;-(
Those pencils with the rubbers are pretty fabulous too.
Joker 😂
This was amazing. Most of this stuff is forgotten in modern golf advice. Thanks!
To be honest, nothing's really changed. Everything I see now, I've watched or read in all the old teachings. It just keeps coming around.
Wow. This was ahead of it's time. Can only imagine the miles of film it took to record those slow motion scenes. Love the Hogan one at 29:33
You can see how he goes from a cupped left wrist at the top of his backswing to a bowed left wrist at impact with the left arm and shaft in a straight line. Priceless!!
Watching this in 2023 ....70 years on from when this was made ...absolutely wonderful . One tiny issue ..no mention of left handed golfers . I'm one of them but I guess just reversing it all works the same.. I often wonder with the new gear we have now , how well Sammy Snead , Ben Hogan , Cary Middlekoff etc would go with their beautiful swings ..It'd be incredible to see eh..
Great stuff! Wonderful summary of the best golf techniques of the 1950's and 1960's. Love the reminder to let the left side control the swing; and the inclusion of the forward press. Basically the swing in those days was triggered and controlled by the hips and legs. Now days left side control, and forward press are gone. Now it's upper body in the back swing and lower body in the down swing. Works great; but it is not as natural as these old swing techniques.
Fantastic...I love this game. Great video...very grateful! Will help everyone break 80 on a regular basis. Many do not love the game enough to watch, study, and learn. Peace!
Thanks for sharing Edwardo.
This video is a golf-gold!
What kind of person downvotes a thing like this? Good _God_.
Thanks for posting.
Never has there been a guy with more class than Bobby Jones. Not only an inspiration for golf, but an inspiration for life.
As a kid, got to take lessons from Pat Abbott. Amazing instructor and fine man. Grateful for the things he taught me that I still employ today
Snead had such a huge shoulder turn because he had such a huge hip turn, which look like they turn about 60 degrees, a good reason why his swing and game lasted so long. Many of today’s players that have maybe 25 degrees of hip turn and with some even less, and why so many are having back problems before they reach 40. Nicklaus had a relatively injury free career which in no small part is due to his big turn of the hips in backswing.
@Dean Mitchell everyone's hips eventually go regardless of if or how they play golf. Playing a professional sport is going to be hard on the body. If it's a choice of back injuries in your 30s or hip injuries in your 50s, it doesn't seem like difficult decision.
Dean Mitchell yes but that was really late in his life and he had no back problems that I know.
@Dean Mitchell zyes the Moe Norman swing pattern. Good call.
Great post, going to use this information the next time I go the range!
Thank you for the upload. This is a fantastic learning tool for every level golfer.
As old as the stuff is, you can't refute it. It's still applicable.
Scott Willi A PURE GOLF SWING, ON PLANE, HAS NO TIME DEFAULT. 🏌️ ⛳️
MUCH LIKE BASEBALL IN 1919 IS BASEBALL IN 2019.
ONLY THE EQUIPMENT CAN CHANGE FOR THE BETTER... THE “PURE” SWING ON CONTACT NEVER WILL.
@Justin Peterson If you can repackage the lessons, you can make more money.
best instructional ever!!!! priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's a lot missing but it was at the time a major step forward in understanding swing mechanics
13:36 Matthew Wolffe does this essentially... It actually causes you to rebound into a more natural backswing and avoid freezing over the ball.
Basic fundamentals always win the day. They turn my game around in an instant.
if you read the opening, it was actually 1954 (MCMLIV=1954)
9:24 - Sam Snead's first move from the top, pulling the lead hip back, but not letting the trail hip come forward. By far the hardest thing for amateur golfers to learn. Once you get this move sequenced correctly it opens up access to a lot of power in the swing.
@@nigelskipping7941 Most amateurs think the hips only rotate. If one moves, the other must move too, but what we are talking about is hip (pelvis) depth not rotation. The hips can be thrusted forward toward the ball at address or they can be pulled back (depth) away from the ball. Once the amateur golfer learns how to do pull both back, the next thing to learn is; First, pull the trail hip back (depth). Second, pull the lead hip back too, but don't let the lead hip rotate forward. When done correctly both hips will be pulled back away from the ball. At first it will feel weird and very difficult to do, but after a while you get real good at it, just like Sammy Snead!
@@zero2herogolfhow is it possible to pull both trail and lead side back without the other going forward? I’m genuinely confused loo
@@Mr8T1 - Try this with no club. First, stand straight up normal, then bend your knees a little and push your butt (hips) back a lot, like you're about to sit down. At this point, both hips are back correct? This first point is to get you to understand you can have "both hips back at the same time." Second, stand straight up again, but this time, only push your trail butt (hip) back just like before, as if you were going to sit, and stay standing like this as you do the 3rd part next. Third, while your trail hip is still pushed back, very very slowly push your lead side hip back too as if it was about to sit down, however DON'T let your trail hip come forward to the standing position. This may take some practice, just start very slowly, and after a while you'll master moving both hips INDEPENDENT of each other. When I first was learning how to do this, I literally had to hold my trail hip back with my hand while I pushed back the lead side hip. Eventually you'll understand you DO NOT have to spin the hips, instead you can push them both back in sequence, one after the other.
Wow this was wonderful
It's a shame that someone thought it necessary to place the 'T3 Media' logo in the center of the screen.
As much as I enjoy watching this, I’m still half-expecting the three silhouettes from MST3K to pop up
At the 28 minute mark he mentions that professional golf is a job. This is what people seem to forget, that the reason McIlroy, Woods, Koepka, and every one of them are so damn good is the fact that it is their job, and they work every day at it, and hard. 90s shooters don't even practice, and yet they expect improvement by using tips and subscribing to instruction sites.
Golf, if you want results, has to be worked at. Don't expect ridiculous things.
Agreed!
Many have been playing since childhood as well.
Ok buster, explain why I can't even break 150 when I've been practicing 4-5 times a week for 4 months now.
Come on, let's here that fucking wisdom. Tell me why all the gudies and irl tips aren't working for me even tho i try hard?
Exactly, so shut the fuck up.
I can’t get over the freakishly long arms of the guy sitting on the couch with Bobby at 4:15.
That's Horton Smith who won the first Masters tournament.
Some of these guys swings are like modern tour players and they would all do well in todays game.
I saw an interview with Walter Hagen & he said that he believed the players of his day would be competitive using modern technology & preparation.
This is the moment when golf instruction took a wrong turn and started obsessing about static positions as seen on slow motion cameras and on course playing lessons were replaced by swing lessons conducted on a driving range. So many of these "5 fundamentals of all sound swings" are just things that happen when you swing smooth and relaxed with a good swing speed, they aren't things you actively try to do.
Was thinking the exact same thing
I'm built like a 2 iron!
He would be built like a hybrid 2 iron now heh
Sand Wedge here.
I'm built like a modern driver. Large, round, and a big face. My personality is more like a 10 wood, generally useless.
Thanks for this.
Hogan's swing is most beautiful, but they are all very pretty
I hit an simple 3 irin once 250 yards mid fairway and found a $20 bill. I knew then to keep em in the fairway cause good things can happen
🤣
Snead had quite a weak right hand grip and the V formed by the thumb and forefinger of right hand did not point to the right shoulder as the video said, but pointed more toward his chin or left eye. And Snead definitely did not have a 3 knuckle left hand grip more like 2 or 1.5, in video when he actually grips club with both hands he weakens the club from what he was demonstrating his left hand grip.
Exactly right. My guess is that the instructors knew that amateurs would slice even worse if they showed Snead's neutral grip as the recommended method.
You really need to rewatch this when he opened his hands to show each one he put his left back to the strong position. Watch other videos of Sam strong left with a neutral right. Same as Jones
Andrea Bowman when Snead is showing his grip with the left hand only he initially does take a strong 3 knuckle grip with his left hand but then he moves it back to a weakish neutral grip before he puts the right hand on. You can tell Snead had pretty much a weakness neutral grip because at the top his left wrist is pretty flat and the toe of club is parallel to his left wrist if Snead’s grip was strong he would need to Cup his left wrist to have the toe of the club pretty much pointing down at the top of his swing.
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awesome vid thanx! :)
mrnomore in
you dont see players today waggle at the extent of players back then did, if they do it its its not real noticeable
Jordan sprite does
4:11 Does Horton Smith have freakishly long arms and hands or am I just tripping out?
24:24 "Mr Davis is still trying to hit like a 30 year old man". LOL! That's my problem. I need to watch more Champions Tour and less PGA Tour.
Sam Snead's last name is misspelled in you video title.
7:55 got that Sergio?
Cool
The Pga should have watched this in 1953...
A 4 iron for a 175 yd shot. Times have changed!
Most modern golfers keep the left foot planted.
Trackman who needs it every is here😂😂
This guy's a feminists nightmare. "We do have to find a way to overcome their natural shortage of strength". Lol Today he would get hate mail
How many feminists playing NHL hockey? Or bullring? Feminists are great at delusions and not good at reality
“Today he would get hate mail” Yes, probably so - and if he had half a brain he wouldn’t give a #@$&
Lmfaooo
the golf swing is not a swing or a turn, that is the miss conception, that's what you see, it took years to understand this, after watching video after video then the pandemic come in and finally I got it now I'm shooting in the top sixties ....
Emperor Jones and the ghost (Horton smith)
Bob hope and bing Crosby's cameo was priceless
Pat Abbott longtime pro at Memphis Country Club!!
What happened to National Golf Day?
Also “SneAd.”
This film from the fifties exposed the weight shift myth. In spite of this, many club pros continued teaching a weight shift from left to right and back left for years. It was a trend until Stack and Tilt made it a focal point not to do so.
I was expecting Phil Mickelson to be in this video...
The latest technology of the time. Imagine what Jones, Hogan, Sneed, Palmer & others would have done with trackman & other modern devices. Or would they just laugh and say, ‘tell mr trackman to do this...’, followed by a sweet, crisp strike.
Mike Haynes Jones put out some instructional video back in the thirties and Hogan watched it to learn. Hogan’s wife father was the local movie house projectionist and would play the films over and over again for Hogan.
Why don't pros ever explain that on their backswing, their head always stays in the same spot. Only their hip and left knee go back a little.
JayZoop Most pros heads move at least a few inches to their right in swing and many at least half a head.
Dang. Our friend is getting ROASTED.
Bobby jones
Louise Suggs looked like she could rip it
Could you reload this video, but this time put more letters. numbers and abstract shapes over the film so as to make it even MORE difficult to watch.
lol
Ever heard of copyrights? Go figure it out.
Way to complain about something absolutely free- You shank
"sound dope" LOL
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If this don’t help your game come get lessons from me I’ll make you 4 strokes better your next round! 💯
commentators just spewing poetic bullshit about his swing around like 7:30 hahahaha
No secrets release as usual
here's a secret... go hit some balls and work on your swing. Why is everyone looking for "secrets" Practice and Study Ben hogans principles...
O yeah there's one... that's why i told "nothing said" but watch carefully if you know where ! You can work on your swing for a zillion years and strugle without the constant of the swing !! Ben Hogan did not say but he gave a hint
Forget the swing man first order of business is learning how to dress with supple clothing..there is a firm reason why PGA pros have discontinued the old button down and tie..restricts somewhat a smooth shoulder turn
Bobby jones always wore a tie while playing a tournament, he was smooth as maple syrup.
@@ag358 yes he did..he also had a supreme pronation with a closed stance and over the top move..try wearing this instead of a normal polo and youll see an instant change in your swing..most like not good
What a p I g a p a p I g a p a p a p a p a p a p a p a p a a p I g a p a p I g a p a p a p a p a p a
Sam "Sneed"?
Formerly Sam "Chuck"
K l k l
The water mark makes this impossible to watch. See ya
This is Hogan after Power Golf and before 5 Lessons. check out his grip - lot stronger before he put the thumb on top and stated to win. and look at his reverse pivot! No wonder he later dug it out of the dirt.
This was filmed in 1953...he was at the top of his form here. Reverse pivot? Do not teach yourself golf- go to your local Pro, like yesterday
@Mike S because his body was pre-bus after bus he shortened swing and adopted neutral grip to eliminate the left side
@@ag358 Hogan's swing was legendary because of the ball flight it produced and the way it looked live and in person. This video ignores those 2 qualities of the golf swing and promotes the idea that you can reverse engineer it by recreating little details that can only be seen in stop motion. It mentions "that elusive quality known as rhythm" during the intro but then omits it when discussing "the fundamentals of all sound swings". You could hit all of these "fundamentals" and still look like Charles Barclay.
Ben Hogan. Reverse pivot ? Go smoke another bone goofy !
Except for the misogynistic demeanor and other comments common to film featurettes of this time, I thought the material was very good. Especially considering this was without video cameras or computers. High speed film (that took a long time to process) and decades of combined experiences touched on several nuances I thought were only discovered since video and computer analysis.
The “misogynistic demeanor” of this was my favorite thing about it. We need to return to the eminent sanity of “misogyny.”
BE 10 TIMES BETTER WITHOUT THE BURN IN THE VIDEO!
Not going to watch this ….. I would have been a 1-year-old when this was produced. Hard to believe that in my own lifetime, stuff like this was common - condescending vibe which sounds like the presenters are talking to children or intellectually-challenged adults. The disturbing thing is, people accepted it.
We have national waffle day but never heard of national golf day.bring that shit back.