Went and checked he lost TTL 2 and Warlords to viper end of 22 and start of 23 right before he started his S tier dominance. Prof ballistics was the key.
It honestly is crazy how slanted the game can look in your favor and suddenly it's completely the opposite. Armenians is a tough civ to carry like that, especially vs Franks and Mongols!
Hera is so good he even doesn't care about the number of enemies, also his dark age is extremely clean, not to mention he's tired. and he didn't have the gold for loom lmao
Yes, your opponents should be Chinese, Persian, Saracen, Turks, Goths, Tatars, Cumans. Start off with fortress walls to keep them safe till castle age.
You came close than I thought. They ha their favorite civs, super late game heavy too + you got no extra pop and a random civ. Was a great game to watch for sure.
Other ideas for making this type of game mode interesting: * if you destroy someone's starting town center they are defeated (but this doesn't apply to you) * if someone drops below 20 villagers in castle age, they are defeated * you start with extra vills and/or town center * your buildings cost 50% as much wood * you start in Fuedal Age
With the extra 10k gold or not? Because then it would be way too stacked for him. But without.. maybe this could be good. There is certainly way more content to come with this.
the tc thing is kind of dumb, there are many situations when the starting tc is done but you're still completely fine 20 vils minimum is dumb too, it makes castle drops very risky and 20 vils can still boom back if you're only being harrassed and not completely destroyed extra starting vils i can't complain about(but not tc, that's overpowered) cheaper builings make booming incredibly powerful starting in feudal age is kinda pointless but ok
@@volcanic_slothCalling the suggestions dumb is a bit harsh. Also the idea behind their suggestions is to allow Hera to remove some players with a fast push. In the current format it's impossible as anyone who gets attacked early can run and reboom. It's near impossible to beat 2 to 3 players who make it to Imp. Let alone when there are still 7 players thus forcing players to defend their starting TC would enable Hera to remove players early. Even then it's unlikely he can push that advantage that well before he's facing 3 fully boomed players.
@@AH17293 you're suggesting it to be impossible to reboom even after just being raided, removing players early by slowly destroying their tcs doesn't sound early, that would just be overpowered by allowing hera to snipe tcs but not killing off players. the only reasonable way to disallow players from rebooming is to force them to resign after they lose all of their tcs at home or are left with less than 8-10 vils(that way you must have at least 1 tc near your starting point which eliminates any attempts at escaping into the pockets and also allows heavily raided/castledropping players to continue living after losing a lot of vils) and even then, hera can win in a 1v7 with just the extra pop space, if he loses 1 game, that deosn't mean he loses all of them
In Feudal Age, you should attack the player right next to you and then work your way from there (counter) clockwise, until all 7 of them are in one spot fighting for the same ressources while trying to stay alive
Hey Hera, have you ever played Game of Thrones mod? It's called Clash of Kings (SoTL made a video about it very recently), it's for 8 players. If not, it would be legendary to watch you playing it :) I had lots of fun watching you play the lotr scenario recently and to me the GoT one is even better. I got into it just few days ago, played 4 games and managed to win one, it was the best, the best experience I've ever had in aoe2 :) you could even play with your viewers for the best experience and the coolest climate.
honestly your boom should be even more greedy, like abuse market to hit 5-6 tc´s instantly after fc abuse, also extra pop needed even if it just 300 to take proper fights with proper deathball comps
also i feel like you lose way too many of those 1v x games cause you don´t play the extra pop, like we all know you are him but you can´t play properly 200 pop vs like 600+ or in this case 1400 pop, like even full pop 700 scouts no upgrades on the field would ruin your day every time cause you can´t be everywhere with standard 200 pop
Hera do you think you'd be able to fend of against this strat: 3 players send their scouts to lame ur sheeps. 2 Players send their 3 vills to get your boars killed. 2 players focus on getting fast feudal and scout rush.
I would leave it all the same but change your max population to something like 300 to be able to battle more fronts without sacrificing villagers or waiting for new units
Really good game. Think it was a throw booming to imp instead of going for like 3 TC into buying a bunch of longswords in castle age to take out someone and then work clockwise across the map. Not making any units until imp+5 with Armenians is a really poor decision
Honestly this should be higher pop limit for solo player as otherwise you inevitably lose just to pop cap not being able to keep up to the other players
look, mom. I'm on TV! Thanks for the games. Love your content. I wish data packs worked with Xbox players. would have loved to be able to give you more pop and a neutral market or something to give you gold. I honestly would have found it hilarious if you had summoned a cobra car.
Can I just point out that, I know the Xbox symbol doesn't necessarily mean they are playing on Xbox. But the chances are he is and that flare you saw us an Xbox bug that's been there since day one. You can't flare on Xbox without everyone in the game seeing it, no matter what your chat settings are on.
I would have picked spanish in this game. Conquistador is great. Have 50 paladin. 10 conquistador. 4 cavalry monks for healing. this allows you to move super fast, go city to city taking down buildings with cavalry massacre vil with conquistador and next city. Red and orange, no need to destroy them, just gotta stall their econ a bit, focus on purple and hoot
Why not idle TC in dark age a little to get the market faster. Would have been an even faster castle age, and then bought imp right as your hit castle age primarly to get all eco upgrades and full boom. Plus allow picking up range upgrades early in case they had offered early pressure. Also bought more churches to maximize eco efficiency and get as much pop for milliarty as quickly as possible. Love infintry!iency and get as much pop for milliarty as quickly as possible. Love infintry!
Just looking at this around 15 min in, you have 3k gold in the bank, and basically never dropped below this. One or maybe 2 stables in addition to the boom when you hit castle would have been insane. most of your opponents were still deep in feudal, or even dark age. You kill 1-2 players for sure with 4-8 knights when they are stuck in dark/early feudal, no?
Hey about we repeat this but you get an extra 1k food, 1k wood, 5k gold and 2k stone with 300 pop? Then your start would be insane enough to actually do this. Atleast with a little chance.
In normal games, Hera can't wait to rush and destroy his opponent as quickly as possible. But in 1v7, Hera waits as long as he can before he attacks anybody. Makes sense ... but not if you are playing for the win. Just my 2 cents ...
if anyone below 1500 has crazy army, you can just defeat them by going onager/SO, if u go with enough numbers they can't micro their army and just die. Thats the win condition for you in these sort of games. Your SO target fire is crazy
haha looks like a fun game, the mistake was focusing too much attention taking out the noobs next door. purple and boot were up there for a long time, should have just rushed them during castle age, stall their econ. Imperial age wipe them out. Whoever imp you attack whom. You have all the privelege at the start. The longer the game, the less advantage you have. On the other hand, if i was facing you, i would come into feudal and drop a tc next to yours. Though i may not win because you have the gold to buy whatever, but i can stall valuable time for teammates to get strong.
are there agreements made for the enemy team not to do fast feudal rush builds? If I was vsing you in a scenario like this, I would probably do a 18 pop fast feudal archer rush. even if my rush fails it will hurt both our economies so my team can take over while I recover.
I don't think so, he said they should of rushed him (or at least attacked earlier). I do have a rush strategy in mind for any of these 1 vs 3(or more), I don't think Hera could stop it because of what it does. In a 7 vs 1 scenario like this it would be a nightmare.
I honestly think you should have rushed instead of boomed in this game. Being up so much gold early is a huuuge advantage early, and you let it become a mild advantage later on by letting everyone develop
bc. in castle age you should have like 100 vills, 50 knights and all the techs vs. people with just minimum army. You can even take out castles and be one big train of destruction! Can't wait to imp vs. 7 with 200 pop
'i didn't have the gold for it' (loom) 😂
Too busy making vils ❤
lmfao
😂😂😂😂
Thanks for this Hera. I'm playing Viper in a $50,000 tourny later tonight and usually don't get ballistics. I'll let you know how it goes.
Respect man
Yeah I'm having dinner with King Charles later, not sure if I'll need ballistics
Went and checked he lost TTL 2 and Warlords to viper end of 22 and start of 23 right before he started his S tier dominance.
Prof ballistics was the key.
@@1Goldie 🤣🤣🤣
Update: got Elite War Elephant rushed while on the way up to Castle Age
Bro i am watching you and it makes me so happy. This content is so good but 200 pop is not enough please get more pop in game like this
It honestly is crazy how slanted the game can look in your favor and suddenly it's completely the opposite. Armenians is a tough civ to carry like that, especially vs Franks and Mongols!
Hera is so good he even doesn't care about the number of enemies, also his dark age is extremely clean, not to mention he's tired.
and he didn't have the gold for loom lmao
Do a 1 vs 7 as Mongols and roleplay like Genghis Khan and only using Mangudais 🤣 The destruction would be hilarious.
Yes, your opponents should be Chinese, Persian, Saracen, Turks, Goths, Tatars, Cumans. Start off with fortress walls to keep them safe till castle age.
You're pretty good about throwing in witty comments while playing and narrating. Thanks for the vid!
Its nice to see you have new ideas, so it gets not boring :)
I thinkk if you just had 100 extra pop, this would be closer. 200 pop v 1400 pop is a wild challenge. Im so excited for your next attempt!
I love watching your games and learning from you. Top content!
i love infantry bc it's hard to pull off and also very satisfying. great game, watching you boom so smooth makes me feel comfortable 😂
You came close than I thought. They ha their favorite civs, super late game heavy too + you got no extra pop and a random civ.
Was a great game to watch for sure.
No extra pop is wild!!! Super excited to see how this turns out lol
Best part of my day.. and I mean the BEST part is clicking on a new Hera video
Other ideas for making this type of game mode interesting:
* if you destroy someone's starting town center they are defeated (but this doesn't apply to you)
* if someone drops below 20 villagers in castle age, they are defeated
* you start with extra vills and/or town center
* your buildings cost 50% as much wood
* you start in Fuedal Age
With the extra 10k gold or not? Because then it would be way too stacked for him.
But without.. maybe this could be good. There is certainly way more content to come with this.
the tc thing is kind of dumb, there are many situations when the starting tc is done but you're still completely fine
20 vils minimum is dumb too, it makes castle drops very risky and 20 vils can still boom back if you're only being harrassed and not completely destroyed
extra starting vils i can't complain about(but not tc, that's overpowered)
cheaper builings make booming incredibly powerful
starting in feudal age is kinda pointless but ok
@@volcanic_slothCalling the suggestions dumb is a bit harsh. Also the idea behind their suggestions is to allow Hera to remove some players with a fast push. In the current format it's impossible as anyone who gets attacked early can run and reboom. It's near impossible to beat 2 to 3 players who make it to Imp. Let alone when there are still 7 players thus forcing players to defend their starting TC would enable Hera to remove players early. Even then it's unlikely he can push that advantage that well before he's facing 3 fully boomed players.
@@AH17293 you're suggesting it to be impossible to reboom even after just being raided, removing players early by slowly destroying their tcs doesn't sound early, that would just be overpowered by allowing hera to snipe tcs but not killing off players. the only reasonable way to disallow players from rebooming is to force them to resign after they lose all of their tcs at home or are left with less than 8-10 vils(that way you must have at least 1 tc near your starting point which eliminates any attempts at escaping into the pockets and also allows heavily raided/castledropping players to continue living after losing a lot of vils)
and even then, hera can win in a 1v7 with just the extra pop space, if he loses 1 game, that deosn't mean he loses all of them
“My body’s not going through any changes.” 😂😂😂
In Feudal Age, you should attack the player right next to you and then work your way from there (counter) clockwise, until all 7 of them are in one spot fighting for the same ressources while trying to stay alive
Hey Hera, have you ever played Game of Thrones mod? It's called Clash of Kings (SoTL made a video about it very recently), it's for 8 players. If not, it would be legendary to watch you playing it :) I had lots of fun watching you play the lotr scenario recently and to me the GoT one is even better. I got into it just few days ago, played 4 games and managed to win one, it was the best, the best experience I've ever had in aoe2 :) you could even play with your viewers for the best experience and the coolest climate.
12:22 best joke of the video
Loved that you tryed infantry. Good video idea, maybe more pop is needed?
Wow, Hera is so good, how did he do that!? And so many times!
im so glad he references good cod games
pretty cool idea. maybe try the same but you are able to pick civ vs 7 random civs?
- Hi, have you seen the video?
- Ter im tagavor
No headset if you can is the way to go. Pinching your ears all day, plus the sweaty head right where the headphones sit
Hi Hera, nice game -- tense moments thus far . . .GIVE IT BACK! Hahaha
WOW heras so good how did he do that
honestly your boom should be even more greedy, like abuse market to hit 5-6 tc´s instantly after fc abuse, also extra pop needed even if it just 300 to take proper fights with proper deathball comps
also i feel like you lose way too many of those 1v x games cause you don´t play the extra pop, like we all know you are him but you can´t play properly 200 pop vs like 600+ or in this case 1400 pop, like even full pop 700 scouts no upgrades on the field would ruin your day every time cause you can´t be everywhere with standard 200 pop
Hera do you think you'd be able to fend of against this strat: 3 players send their scouts to lame ur sheeps. 2 Players send their 3 vills to get your boars killed. 2 players focus on getting fast feudal and scout rush.
They should have scout rushed with their 7 combined scouts at the beginning of the game 😂
I would leave it all the same but change your max population to something like 300 to be able to battle more fronts without sacrificing villagers or waiting for new units
The tech to reduce market costs would have paid off so fast
Really good game. Think it was a throw booming to imp instead of going for like 3 TC into buying a bunch of longswords in castle age to take out someone and then work clockwise across the map. Not making any units until imp+5 with Armenians is a really poor decision
20 games a day at Hera’s elo is WILD. I’m surprised he can even think AT ALL! 😅😅
btw, is there some sort of arrangement for not rushing hera in these games?, I feel 7 scouts attacking would be lots of pressure.
Yoo hera is amazing wow, how is he that good
Honestly this should be higher pop limit for solo player as otherwise you inevitably lose just to pop cap not being able to keep up to the other players
Maybe when you hit castle age just take a few vills and buy a castle or two in people's base (while they are still feudal age)
Would've loved to see the cobras come out. lmao
"How to get rich? Just invest your first million"
That one hit so close home for a millenial 🤣
look, mom. I'm on TV! Thanks for the games. Love your content. I wish data packs worked with Xbox players. would have loved to be able to give you more pop and a neutral market or something to give you gold. I honestly would have found it hilarious if you had summoned a cobra car.
I think You need more popspace. You were max pop at minute 29.
GG!
You did great!
Can I just point out that, I know the Xbox symbol doesn't necessarily mean they are playing on Xbox. But the chances are he is and that flare you saw us an Xbox bug that's been there since day one. You can't flare on Xbox without everyone in the game seeing it, no matter what your chat settings are on.
1 vs 7 but he don't say 7 brain rot player :D
I would have picked spanish in this game. Conquistador is great. Have 50 paladin. 10 conquistador. 4 cavalry monks for healing. this allows you to move super fast, go city to city taking down buildings with cavalry
massacre vil with conquistador and next city. Red and orange, no need to destroy them, just gotta stall their econ a bit, focus on purple and hoot
A child of light playing an age of empire, lol
Why not idle TC in dark age a little to get the market faster. Would have been an even faster castle age, and then bought imp right as your hit castle age primarly to get all eco upgrades and full boom. Plus allow picking up range upgrades early in case they had offered early pressure. Also bought more churches to maximize eco efficiency and get as much pop for milliarty as quickly as possible. Love infintry!iency and get as much pop for milliarty as quickly as possible. Love infintry!
Wow you are so good! HOW DID YOU DO THAT
I'm dying to see everyone APM side by side
@5:50 WOW Hera is so good, how did he do that??
with these conditions, don't you need to siege push 2 neighbours as soon as you hit castle age? plus, double your starting money
Wow! Hera’s so good!! How did he do that?!
is this the rematch from the car?
After watching this video, I have zero losses against Viper in tournament finals.
I belive one if the easiest way ti win fir the 7player team would be to go all drush. 21 milita coming in base would be brutal
Just looking at this around 15 min in, you have 3k gold in the bank, and basically never dropped below this. One or maybe 2 stables in addition to the boom when you hit castle would have been insane. most of your opponents were still deep in feudal, or even dark age. You kill 1-2 players for sure with 4-8 knights when they are stuck in dark/early feudal, no?
If infantry gets a buff in the next patch, hera should stop considering retirement.
Hey about we repeat this but you get an extra 1k food, 1k wood, 5k gold and 2k stone with 300 pop?
Then your start would be insane enough to actually do this. Atleast with a little chance.
Now make the same one with the other 7 starting with 10000 gold instead
WOW Hera is so good, how did he do that???
Wow hera's so good how did he do that?
At one point you had 7000 food, you need some coaching
Woah yes do again soon!
Is Dark Age scout rushing allowed? They could probably ruin you before minute 5 with 7 starting scouts right?
I like infantry. It's the bread and butter of AOE.
Try this challenge again BUT with 20k gold
Hera vs 7 but you start with a cobra car
In normal games, Hera can't wait to rush and destroy his opponent as quickly as possible. But in 1v7, Hera waits as long as he can before he attacks anybody. Makes sense ... but not if you are playing for the win. Just my 2 cents ...
Amazing micro skill
if anyone below 1500 has crazy army, you can just defeat them by going onager/SO, if u go with enough numbers they can't micro their army and just die. Thats the win condition for you in these sort of games. Your SO target fire is crazy
rematch with adjusted pop space for you? :D
haha looks like a fun game, the mistake was focusing too much attention taking out the noobs next door. purple and boot were up there for a long time, should have just rushed them during castle age, stall their econ. Imperial age wipe them out. Whoever imp you attack whom. You have all the privelege at the start. The longer the game, the less advantage you have. On the other hand, if i was facing you, i would come into feudal and drop a tc next to yours. Though i may not win because you have the gold to buy whatever, but i can stall valuable time for teammates to get strong.
how do you set up building sequence for villagers??
are there agreements made for the enemy team not to do fast feudal rush builds? If I was vsing you in a scenario like this, I would probably do a 18 pop fast feudal archer rush. even if my rush fails it will hurt both our economies so my team can take over while I recover.
I don't think so, he said they should of rushed him (or at least attacked earlier). I do have a rush strategy in mind for any of these 1 vs 3(or more), I don't think Hera could stop it because of what it does. In a 7 vs 1 scenario like this it would be a nightmare.
i guess to make it more even you play saracens and increase the pop to 400 maybe
you needed the extra pop. Otherwise even with saracens idk if its possible
can we get some hype in the chat for heras haircut.
Just in time for my lunch break
Dumb question - how do I change my settings to have UI he has? My trees are full of foliage and it makes it hard to click a specific one lol
Mods
I mean infantry vs mongols is rough, no seige either
I missed this one, silly algorithm
Why no skimmers ??? Would solve the mangudai problem
I bet it felt gooood to get Hera to resign, even with the odds stacked against you :)
wow Hera is so good, how did he made me type this ??
I honestly think you should have rushed instead of boomed in this game. Being up so much gold early is a huuuge advantage early, and you let it become a mild advantage later on by letting everyone develop
I would have liked you having the extra pop!
You should set your pop to 400 next time!
hey, if 1 on 7 , do pop boost, or do smaller map, so u can push fast n quick.. i would like to see this in ur favour on a smaller map..
Wow Hera is so good, how did he do that?
Honestly if infantry had +2 pierce armour they would be so much better
with just 200 pop and infitine resources u should spam bbt
that was a great game!
You also need maybe extra 100 pop?
32:20 That do be what the germans did
think strat here should be to amass 50knights asap and then wreck 7 TCs, 1 per minute.
bc. in castle age you should have like 100 vills, 50 knights and all the techs vs. people with just minimum army. You can even take out castles and be one big train of destruction! Can't wait to imp vs. 7 with 200 pop
200 pop cap was probs unfair
without pop boost, you'll have to cook like a michellin chef. you can do it, but it may take a few tries. 11 gg
is there a rule where they can not use scouts to attack cause 7 scouts can do some harrass early on
Try 1v7 with 200% bonus + pop space?
wtih handicap? Ive already done that, its on the channel!