MrUseur I think he's amazing and plays a lot 'younger' than he looks! :p The Adagio was the piece that really turned me on to Koopman. I cried when I first heard it. :)
Zoe Joyce Very true, the Adagio is really good, especially how Ton plays is. Btw, have you listend to BVW-540 played by Ton Koopman? High dynamic piece of Bach, it just blows me away how Koopman plays it. Kind of a different order. Of course, a question of subjective taste.
MrUseur Yes, I've listened to BWV540 many times. I have the complete organ works of Bach by Ton Koopman and I've listened to it on RUclips as well. Which version do you mean? He interprets it differently on different organs. :)
de pedaal beheersing is onder andere ook erg mooi Wat is Bach toch een heerlijke leraar en trooster in het leven en allen die hem bestuderen en spelen zijn geprezen !
The piece dictates the tempo, the structure of the music and the composers intentions do. Nothing else matters. I never tried making the old sources out to be a "bible", you are right in saying that they are not. But they do give us the best possible idea about what the composer intended.
Tempo is quite good , not because of treatises but because it has musical sense ... and what has been written on paper 3 centuries ago is not 'bible' ... the right tempo, then, is depending on the space you play in, and on the instruments you are using..
No it isn't. Study historical sources such as Kirnberger "Des Kunst des reinen Satzes" and Thieme: "Nouvelle Theorie sur les differens mouvemens de la musique moderne"~1801. I am confident you will discover that how people think of tempo today is completely alien to how they thought of tempo in the old days. Even as late as the 19th century they were still thinking of tempo in a much faster sense than they do today.
Het is wel snel maar alles is wel in balans op een vergeeflijk foutje na in het eerste deel.Het tweede deel begint traag maar dan komen die prachtige versieringen en die improviseringen die de Grootmeester Bach als hij vanuit de hemel zou toe kijken daar wel zijn goedkeuring over zou toelachen en zou zeggen; "niet voor niets heb jij een hollandse prijs gekregen"
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just the smart people understand to Mr. Koopman!!!
Correct if I am wrong: Ton Koopman is one of the best playing Bach on the organ.
MrUseur I think he's amazing and plays a lot 'younger' than he looks! :p The Adagio was the piece that really turned me on to Koopman. I cried when I first heard it. :)
Zoe Joyce Very true, the Adagio is really good, especially how Ton plays is. Btw, have you listend to BVW-540 played by Ton Koopman? High dynamic piece of Bach, it just blows me away how Koopman plays it. Kind of a different order. Of course, a question of subjective taste.
MrUseur Yes, I've listened to BWV540 many times. I have the complete organ works of Bach by Ton Koopman and I've listened to it on RUclips as well. Which version do you mean? He interprets it differently on different organs. :)
Por supuesto es uno de los mejores intérpretes de Bach. Pero en concreto la Toccata es muy superior la versión de Walcha.
Yes, that is correct.
I played this organ on our tour of Germany - Magnificent!!
de pedaal beheersing is onder andere ook erg mooi Wat is Bach toch een heerlijke leraar en trooster in het leven en allen die hem bestuderen en spelen zijn geprezen !
The piece dictates the tempo, the structure of the music and the composers intentions do. Nothing else matters. I never tried making the old sources out to be a "bible", you are right in saying that they are not. But they do give us the best possible idea about what the composer intended.
This sooths my soul.
The Adagio is the best Interpretation of this piece i've ever heard!
Thank you Bach
There is not better version of this Toccata ever recorded, ever played :D
the key is C major.
the pitch is D major.
just guess what's the right question to ask.
not 440, not 415,3 , just 493,9 Hz for the A.
5:19 Adagio
Stylé
I agree with you entirely. Thanks for your comment, I hope others read it so they can learn a thing or two. :)
Thank you! (my previous comment was some way deleted... I wrote about articulation, tempo etc...)
I am pretty sure Johan wrote this while watching the kids pilfering cherries from neighbours garden....hehe
prachtig mooie registratie van het adagio
Tempo is quite good , not because of treatises but because it has musical sense ... and what has been written on paper 3 centuries ago is not 'bible' ... the right tempo, then, is depending on the space you play in, and on the instruments you are using..
No it isn't. Study historical sources such as Kirnberger "Des Kunst des reinen Satzes" and Thieme: "Nouvelle Theorie sur les differens mouvemens de la musique moderne"~1801. I am confident you will discover that how people think of tempo today is completely alien to how they thought of tempo in the old days. Even as late as the 19th century they were still thinking of tempo in a much faster sense than they do today.
Het is wel snel maar alles is wel in balans op een vergeeflijk foutje na in het eerste deel.Het tweede deel begint traag maar dan komen die prachtige versieringen en die improviseringen die de Grootmeester Bach als hij vanuit de hemel zou toe kijken daar wel zijn goedkeuring over zou toelachen en zou zeggen; "niet voor niets heb jij een hollandse prijs gekregen"
About as close as you can get to walcha
Walcha uses no ornamentation at all in the adagio
Waarlijk indrukwekkend en geeft inzicht in Bach.
Tempo is a little bit too fast.