Very happy to come across your series on the Trip+ . I haven't got enough use out of mine yet as I'd always get frustrated with random results from playing around or the fragments I'd pick up from videos here and there , but seeing an entire structured series on it is going to be worlds of help. Very nice channel.
That was a great tip at the end there! It never occurred to me you'd get a stereo sound going from the headphone jack direct into the interface. I'm embarrassed to say that only very recently did it occur to me that it's very simple to record 3 tracks out of the Trio. Although, as a general rule, the key thing I want out of the Trio is the drums, I'm generally going to add bass and the guitars, such that the original guitars form the Trio are barely audible in the final mix. That's ok, the most important role for the Trio is to act as a "guide track", i.e. it's your placeholder for the whole song. Once that's in place, you can record as many tracks as you want over it, and you can even get your musician friends involved with ease, even if they live in other cities, because you can give them a mixdown of your guidetrack as an MP3, and they can give you back their wave files to import back into your project. Good video!
After transferring the Trio .dat files to DAW and editing them, are you going to show us how to transfer the edited files BACK to the Trio? I ask because I just got the Trio and set up the songs Cocaine and Who Do You Love? on the Trio, had a blast jamming with them but I wanted to strum opening chords on my guitar first and then press the Band button on the Trio to start its recorded parts but there is a slight delay after pressing the button before the drums actually kick in, throwing the intro timing off. I would like to delete that tiny hole on the beginning of the opening track on the Trio using the DAW and then transfer it back to the Trio so that hitting the Band button synchs perfectly with my strummed guitar. I'm finding it hard to believe that the Trio will be able to read that edited file.
I don't have a trio+, yet, but the videos have me very interested in one. I have a question about your comment of recording the drums in stereo... Are you exploiting a... feature?... of the Trio+ by using the mixer out and the headphones out? Or, in other words how is what is sent out the two outputs different from just recording the drums from the mixer output only, then doubling the track in the DAW? Does the combo of the mixer out & headphones out create a stereo field effect of some sort? Thank you in advance, from a fellow Scott
Hello, and thanks a lot again for your great videos! Your channel is always my starting point whenever I have a question regarding pedals. :-) I have one more question that came up after watching the videos. If I want to record a solo after recording the drums, bass and loops from the Trio Plus into my PC, can I use my pedalboard with an audio Interface as well? Oder do I need a mixer for that? (Or something else?) I found the Yamaha AG03, would the pedals work with that? I'm quite new to recording; until now I used my Zoom Q4N to record my tracks and Audacity for a bit of editing. However I was thinking about getting a bit more professional sounding and having more control over the individual tracks after recording. Would it work with the Yamaha AG03? Or is there another way (that isn't too expensive) to use my pedals with the PC? Am I overthinking and should I just use virtual effects instead of my beloved pedals 😅?
Hi. Thanks for watching. It's hard to say as everyone approaches this in their own way. Personally, I would say whatever you're feeling more comfortable with is the right solution. If you do use your pedalboard and record straight into your DAW, you will probably need some sort of amp simulation plug-in to bring out the right tone.
@@ThePedalGuy Thank you for your answer.:-) After a little more research, I am now thinking about using a microphone (maybe a Shure SM57) in front of my amp to record my solos with my pedal sound through a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 into my PC. Maybe I could do this with my loops a well, so both tracks would have my amp sound. And for the drum and bass tracks, I would record them directly from the Trio Plus through the Focusrite into the PC, like in your videos. (Until now I use a two amp setup for the guitar and Trio Plus) I don't know if my thoughts for recording make sense, haven't done that before.😄 Maybe I will experiment a bit. And thank you again for your awesome channel! :-)
Hi, first thanks much for your tuts, very helpful. I would like to feed or input a guitar track in my daw to the Trio+ so it can create a bass n drum section for me. Is there a way that I can accomplish this?
I have tried everything , but the signal from the U-Phoria interface is not accepted in the Trio´s guitar input. or any other socket for that matter. got to be some gadget that turns the out of interface back to a guitar input signal. Anyone have any clues.
I've been researching different types of loopers and I've pretty much settled on the Trio Plus, but I still have one unanswered question in mind. Is it possible to save a guitar only file when I'm backing up my Trio Plus loop files to a computer? I guess I should mention that I don't have a DAW yet, but from everything I've seen so far it doesn't seem like a DAW is required to simply save backup files from the Trio Plus. I think I remember someone saying that turning the respective volume knobs down for the bass and the drums is the only way to create guitar only loops on the Trio Plus, but I'm wondering if the act of turning these knobs down is recognized when I back up files to a computer. Do you know if the backup files will be stored on the computer as guitar only if I turn the volume knobs down on the Trio Plus? I like the option of having bass and drums in my loops, but I'd also like to have the option to save guitar only files. Thanks in advance.
Yes you would need to turn down the bass and drums as they are part of the overall package when you use the TRIO. You could also plug the bass/drums and guitar outputs into a mixer and just mute those tracks.
@@ThePedalGuy Wow, thank you for providing such a prompt reply! I'm very new to looping and recording, I've actually only recently started playing again after going many years without even picking up a guitar so the tech side of it all has managed to get ahead of me quite a bit. Your channel is great, it's very helpful for ppl like me. I hadn't considered the possibility of using a mixer, but it's good to hear that turning the volume down on the bass and drums would work as well since I don't have one at the moment. Thanks again, I really appreciate your help. I forgot to ask before, but would turning the volume down on the bass and drums store the loop as guitar only on the pedal itself as well?
Excellent demo. Can you slow down and explain how you control all the cursor actions of Reapers editing maneuvers, click, drags, splits, move, cut, ect. Thanks you. Snap and quantize.
Thanks. I’m thinking about doing a reaper series focused on guitarists and I will be sure to keep that in mind. The Reaper Mania channel has a ton of good tutorials there in the meantime.
@@ThePedalGuy Yes Kenny does a good job, but I need the basics of Reaper editing. The Reapers editing cursor is a complete mystery to me. I will keep a look out for your tutorial. Really enjoying the current series on the Trio plus with the DAW.
Move your cursor up just above the track in that narrow space until it changes. You can then select and area. You will get two triangles that you can move, crop, etc. The big green one is simply one click and your playback will start there. You can loop it to- circle near the start arrow. There are many videos out there that making learning this pretty easy. 3 years on, you probably now know more than I do. I just got it a couple weeks ago but I love it. Very powerful software and it actually works. You can right click and cut an area. Split tracks is cool as you can then raise or lower volume in a very specific area of one track. All tracks will appear selected but click in the one you want. You just have to play with it until it sticks.
Also I do not seem to get stereo recorded following your tip for today. It only records one lane in the reaper stereo track when I plug in the headphone socket in Trio+. Could be my 3/32 to 1/4 cable is faulty so I am ordering a new one, also ordering one that has 2 - 1/4 leads to see if I can seperate the drums from the bass.
Hi Pedal Guy! Here’s a question: can the Trio+ act as audio interface so I can record directly into my DAW? And, if not, is it possible to somehow connect the Trio+ to the MG-30 in such a way that I can record the three tracks (loop, bass, drums) into my DAW without needing an audio interface? (I.e., Will the MG-30 serve as the audio interface in that scenario?). Thanks a lot!
Great videos. A couple questions, is there a way to create drums only intros and/or outros on the Trio+ That don’t sound like another verse. As an example, the drum intro on Evil Ways by Santana. Thanks for all your help.
A DAW is a digital audio workstation software. In the video I’m using Reaper, which is a pretty popular and affordable solution. I’m thinking about doing more of an all around daw demo with reaper and a couple of other apps like protools to show guitarists what’s possible
that would be great i want to record to something computer or something else not sure how to go about it yet i do have the trio plus now i need the next step ?
@@freddysnightmare8391 next two things you need is a DAW and an audio interface. The good news is that a lot of the audio interfaces on the market include a DAW software of some kind that can get you up and running. Then when you feel like plunking down some money for another software you can.
So what is the end goal? Is it to then re-sample the added tracks from your DAW back into the Trio+? At that point, isn't it just easier to create your own tracks in the DAW first and then sample them into the Trio+? I am not understanding the full purpose of this.
Not quite. The idea is to record your TRIO songs into a DAW, at which point you can record more tracks, use the DAW FX and EQ's, and create a studio quality recording. Watch the upcoming vids and it will make sense.
How many times can you add layers onto one track? For example, can I overdub infinite times over one track like I can do with the looper on my boss DD-20? If so, can you undo an overdub without erasing everything else I laid down before it on the same track?
If you're talking about the looper itself, there's one level of undo. It's a good solid looper but it doesn't have some of the more recent features that we've seen in products like the Headrush where you can peel back numerous layers.
@@ThePedalGuy It is possible. He didn't use jamsync feature. He just made a song as usual on Trio +. Then from the track that is generated from Trio +, he switched SDrum to learn mode and received a song from Trio + as learning source. So he got more polished drums sound from SDrum. I will search that video and paste that video link as soon as I find that.
I just brought this today. Ive wasted my money. Drum beats and drum sounds are terrible and the bass is too straight. No feel in the beats and bass playing..Is there an update coming soon? cheers
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Extremely well done! Thank you! You succinctly explained exactly what I wanted to find out.
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome practical demo and tips for uploading the Trio stuff into a tracked environment!
Subscribed!
Thanks!
Very happy to come across your series on the Trip+ . I haven't got enough use out of mine yet as I'd always get frustrated with random results from playing around or the fragments I'd pick up from videos here and there , but seeing an entire structured series on it is going to be worlds of help. Very nice channel.
Thanks. More vids to come.
That was a great tip at the end there! It never occurred to me you'd get a stereo sound going from the headphone jack direct into the interface.
I'm embarrassed to say that only very recently did it occur to me that it's very simple to record 3 tracks out of the Trio. Although, as a general rule, the key thing I want out of the Trio is the drums, I'm generally going to add bass and the guitars, such that the original guitars form the Trio are barely audible in the final mix. That's ok, the most important role for the Trio is to act as a "guide track", i.e. it's your placeholder for the whole song. Once that's in place, you can record as many tracks as you want over it, and you can even get your musician friends involved with ease, even if they live in other cities, because you can give them a mixdown of your guidetrack as an MP3, and they can give you back their wave files to import back into your project. Good video!
Thanks. Wait till we get to the next vids
After transferring the Trio .dat files to DAW and editing them, are you going to show us how to transfer the edited files BACK to the Trio? I ask because I just got the Trio and set up the songs Cocaine and Who Do You Love? on the Trio, had a blast jamming with them but I wanted to strum opening chords on my guitar first and then press the Band button on the Trio to start its recorded parts but there is a slight delay after pressing the button before the drums actually kick in, throwing the intro timing off. I would like to delete that tiny hole on the beginning of the opening track on the Trio using the DAW and then transfer it back to the Trio so that hitting the Band button synchs perfectly with my strummed guitar. I'm finding it hard to believe that the Trio will be able to read that edited file.
Very helpful I was looking to do this and you made my day today thanks
Glad to hear it! I'll be creating more vids for this series soon.
Really enjoy your channel. Thanks so much.
Thanks!
Dude this video is awesome!!!! Thank you
You’re welcome
Thanks much now I know how to start or sync the audio file with the beginning of beat 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Great. 🤞
I don't have a trio+, yet, but the videos have me very interested in one. I have a question about your comment of recording the drums in stereo... Are you exploiting a... feature?... of the Trio+ by using the mixer out and the headphones out? Or, in other words how is what is sent out the two outputs different from just recording the drums from the mixer output only, then doubling the track in the DAW? Does the combo of the mixer out & headphones out create a stereo field effect of some sort? Thank you in advance, from a fellow Scott
Thanks. The headphones out by itself will give you a stereo output for the drums.
@@ThePedalGuy thank you for the quick reply!
Would love to know if theres an accurate method for lining up tracks on a multitrack recorder.
Hello, and thanks a lot again for your great videos! Your channel is always my starting point whenever I have a question regarding pedals. :-) I have one more question that came up after watching the videos. If I want to record a solo after recording the drums, bass and loops from the Trio Plus into my PC, can I use my pedalboard with an audio Interface as well? Oder do I need a mixer for that? (Or something else?) I found the Yamaha AG03, would the pedals work with that? I'm quite new to recording; until now I used my Zoom Q4N to record my tracks and Audacity for a bit of editing. However I was thinking about getting a bit more professional sounding and having more control over the individual tracks after recording. Would it work with the Yamaha AG03? Or is there another way (that isn't too expensive) to use my pedals with the PC? Am I overthinking and should I just use virtual effects instead of my beloved pedals 😅?
Hi. Thanks for watching. It's hard to say as everyone approaches this in their own way. Personally, I would say whatever you're feeling more comfortable with is the right solution. If you do use your pedalboard and record straight into your DAW, you will probably need some sort of amp simulation plug-in to bring out the right tone.
@@ThePedalGuy Thank you for your answer.:-) After a little more research, I am now thinking about using a microphone (maybe a Shure SM57) in front of my amp to record my solos with my pedal sound through a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 into my PC. Maybe I could do this with my loops a well, so both tracks would have my amp sound. And for the drum and bass tracks, I would record them directly from the Trio Plus through the Focusrite into the PC, like in your videos. (Until now I use a two amp setup for the guitar and Trio Plus) I don't know if my thoughts for recording make sense, haven't done that before.😄 Maybe I will experiment a bit. And thank you again for your awesome channel! :-)
Hi, first thanks much for your tuts, very helpful. I would like to feed or input a guitar track in my daw to the Trio+ so it can create a bass n drum section for me. Is there a way that I can accomplish this?
It would be tricky, but you could route an audio track from your DAW to the TRIO input and see if that would work. No promises, but that might do it.
I have tried everything , but the signal from the U-Phoria interface is not accepted in the Trio´s guitar input. or any other socket for that matter. got to be some gadget that turns the out of interface back to a guitar input signal. Anyone have any clues.
I've been researching different types of loopers and I've pretty much settled on the Trio Plus, but I still have one unanswered question in mind. Is it possible to save a guitar only file when I'm backing up my Trio Plus loop files to a computer? I guess I should mention that I don't have a DAW yet, but from everything I've seen so far it doesn't seem like a DAW is required to simply save backup files from the Trio Plus. I think I remember someone saying that turning the respective volume knobs down for the bass and the drums is the only way to create guitar only loops on the Trio Plus, but I'm wondering if the act of turning these knobs down is recognized when I back up files to a computer. Do you know if the backup files will be stored on the computer as guitar only if I turn the volume knobs down on the Trio Plus? I like the option of having bass and drums in my loops, but I'd also like to have the option to save guitar only files. Thanks in advance.
Yes you would need to turn down the bass and drums as they are part of the overall package when you use the TRIO.
You could also plug the bass/drums and guitar outputs into a mixer and just mute those tracks.
@@ThePedalGuy Wow, thank you for providing such a prompt reply! I'm very new to looping and recording, I've actually only recently started playing again after going many years without even picking up a guitar so the tech side of it all has managed to get ahead of me quite a bit. Your channel is great, it's very helpful for ppl like me. I hadn't considered the possibility of using a mixer, but it's good to hear that turning the volume down on the bass and drums would work as well since I don't have one at the moment. Thanks again, I really appreciate your help. I forgot to ask before, but would turning the volume down on the bass and drums store the loop as guitar only on the pedal itself as well?
@@daveyboyd784 no problem. This pedal is a bit of a mystery to new users.
@@daveyboyd784 read page 23 in the manual for everything you want to know about using the TRIO as a traditional looper without the band.
@@ThePedalGuy Thanks for all your help.
Excellent demo. Can you slow down and explain how you control all the cursor actions of Reapers editing maneuvers, click, drags, splits, move, cut, ect. Thanks you. Snap and quantize.
Thanks. I’m thinking about doing a reaper series focused on guitarists and I will be sure to keep that in mind. The Reaper Mania channel has a ton of good tutorials there in the meantime.
@@ThePedalGuy Yes Kenny does a good job, but I need the basics of Reaper editing. The Reapers editing cursor is a complete mystery to me. I will keep a look out for your tutorial. Really enjoying the current series on the Trio plus with the DAW.
@@seanwalsh999 sounds good. Once you get the functions of reaper under your thumbs it’s easy.
Move your cursor up just above the track in that narrow space until it changes. You can then select and area. You will get two triangles that you can move, crop, etc. The big green one is simply one click and your playback will start there. You can loop it to- circle near the start arrow. There are many videos out there that making learning this pretty easy. 3 years on, you probably now know more than I do. I just got it a couple weeks ago but I love it. Very powerful software and it actually works. You can right click and cut an area. Split tracks is cool as you can then raise or lower volume in a very specific area of one track. All tracks will appear selected but click in the one you want. You just have to play with it until it sticks.
Also I do not seem to get stereo recorded following your tip for today. It only records one lane in the reaper stereo track when I plug in the headphone socket in Trio+. Could be my 3/32 to 1/4 cable is faulty so I am ordering a new one, also ordering one that has 2 - 1/4 leads to see if I can seperate the drums from the bass.
Sounds to me like a faulty cable to me.
Hi Pedal Guy! Here’s a question: can the Trio+ act as audio interface so I can record directly into my DAW? And, if not, is it possible to somehow connect the Trio+ to the MG-30 in such a way that I can record the three tracks (loop, bass, drums) into my DAW without needing an audio interface? (I.e., Will the MG-30 serve as the audio interface in that scenario?). Thanks a lot!
nice
Thanks
Great videos. A couple questions, is there a way to create drums only intros and/or outros on the Trio+ That don’t sound like another verse. As an example, the drum intro on Evil Ways by Santana. Thanks for all your help.
Unfortunately no
Then use audio to midi with superior drummer.. Or will it send midi via usb?
No, the pedal doesn't send MIDI. There's likely a way to convert the recorded drums into MIDI notes.
Does this apply only to the Trio+ or does it work with the basic Trio as well? TIA
Not sure about the TRIO. Never really used the little one. It should work about the same if not exactly the same.
Can the Trio produce a drum ENDING?
what is a daw ? what does it look like and interface can you show pictures please thank you Scott
A DAW is a digital audio workstation software. In the video I’m using Reaper, which is a pretty popular and affordable solution. I’m thinking about doing more of an all around daw demo with reaper and a couple of other apps like protools to show guitarists what’s possible
that would be great i want to record to something computer or something else not sure how to go about it yet i do have the trio plus now i need the next step ?
@@freddysnightmare8391 next two things you need is a DAW and an audio interface. The good news is that a lot of the audio interfaces on the market include a DAW software of some kind that can get you up and running. Then when you feel like plunking down some money for another software you can.
i am looking for it but cant find it do you a link please or proper name please
@@freddysnightmare8391 www.reaper.fm/
I had one. But there were no drum intos or out. I was told digitech were going to update this.
Don't know if they ever did.
I don't have a computer 😕
No updates yet.
So what is the end goal? Is it to then re-sample the added tracks from your DAW back into the Trio+? At that point, isn't it just easier to create your own tracks in the DAW first and then sample them into the Trio+? I am not understanding the full purpose of this.
Not quite. The idea is to record your TRIO songs into a DAW, at which point you can record more tracks, use the DAW FX and EQ's, and create a studio quality recording. Watch the upcoming vids and it will make sense.
How many times can you add layers onto one track? For example, can I overdub infinite times over one track like I can do with the looper on my boss DD-20? If so, can you undo an overdub without erasing everything else I laid down before it on the same track?
If you're talking about the looper itself, there's one level of undo. It's a good solid looper but it doesn't have some of the more recent features that we've seen in products like the Headrush where you can peel back numerous layers.
Read the simple chart that came with the Trio +! It's all there!
Infinity dubs YES
Undo LAST YES
@@camerarderie5070 being that I don’t have one yet, I don’t have the instructions. I wanted to know this before I bought one. Thanks.
Why go far when the good things are so close? Thanks a lot for your video. Good Idea !!!
You bet. Make sure to come back next week for part 2 of the series.
What about Garage band
It should work fine with GB
Anyone know how to stop drums auto fill? I just want freely play at any point.
Auto fills can't be stopped. That's how the TRIO keeps the drum parts sounding lively.
I ever seen on someone channel that Trio + can teach SDrum. Maybe you can teach us to do that in a more informative video.
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately that’s not possible with the TRIO+ as it doesn’t have a JamSync port. If it did that might work.
@@ThePedalGuy It is possible. He didn't use jamsync feature. He just made a song as usual on Trio +. Then from the track that is generated from Trio +, he switched SDrum to learn mode and received a song from Trio + as learning source. So he got more polished drums sound from SDrum. I will search that video and paste that video link as soon as I find that.
Send me the link and I’ll look.
@@ThePedalGuy I'm sorry. That was regular Trio. ruclips.net/video/tpRXm_ynm38/видео.html
Yep. Trust me if the TRIO+ could do this I would have covered that by now 😉
I just brought this today. Ive wasted my money. Drum beats and drum sounds are terrible and the bass is too straight. No feel in the beats and bass playing..Is there an update coming soon? cheers
No updates that I’m aware of. Sorry you don’t like it