My son had 4 open heart surgeries before he was 5, numerous other interventions and hospitalisations and it never cost a cent in Australia. I don’t want to think about what would have happened if it did
While america doesn't have good health insurance, St. Judes will usually foot the bill for children who are dealing with terminal and life threatening illnesses, so that they can get the treatment they need
Here in Mexico; my niece, after being born on the 25th week of pregnancy was hospitalized for several months, on intensive care for a couple of them; had surgery twice, had a couple ambulance rides to another city for her to see a more specialized eye doctor... She is now making a full recovery and it did't cost a penny.
Komrade Kelly: "I hate the rich." I'm from Texas, so everything I learned specifically about my state horrified me, but it didn't surprise me. The way "small government" conservatives govern is to govern poorly and then turn around and tell you that government sucks because they do everything poorly. Can't believe I used to support the republican party years ago. Good guest today!
THANK YOU for this episode, Mr. Jim Jefferies...always a huge fan and grateful for all of the laughs through the years...and you are very intelligent with common sense...
It’s so frustrating and sad to read these comments and see how many people from other countries look at americas healthcare system and they don’t understand how it can be this fucked up here. Simple answer. In America, healthcare isn’t seen as a right, it’s seen as a business. Capitalism is sacred, and profits are all that matters. Even if it’s at the expense of peoples health and well being. Americans hate this system but tearing it all down and starting over is such a monumental task at this point. It’s nearly impossible to fix. First thing is abandoning the idea that profit is priority #1. But that’s America for you. The dollar is god.
Most of the more severe illnesses happen to people by an upsetting event happening in their lives that takes them by surprise, unexpectedly, impacting first in the brain, then in the corresponding organ which that part of the brain controls. The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, your home, your community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death. Why are so many people across the world suddenly having their appendix removed? The appendix is associated with “being in fear for one’s life”. The HEALING phase is the rupture/inflammation.
While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes.
Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way.
It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable. One hundred years later, a Fear Campaign begins, using the media to spread it......
Basicly the company’s own the congress over there, don’t start about guns right. And something like 50 % pre-packed food would be illegal europa cause we got higher standards!
When I lived in Brisbane I went to the hospital and needed an MRI for something. Got charged nothing and I wasnt even a citizen. I did have a Medibank card but I filled out zero paperwork and they sorted me out and I left.
I like My healthcare and don't quite understand the issues everyone says Canada has. I haven't experienced long wait times etc. Not to say there aren't issues, but as a father of 4 my kids hurt themselves a lot. Cost me nothing. Their births cost me nothing. My grandson had heart surgery as a baby. Cost me nothing. My ex wife and I have insurance through our work. So medical and dental costs us 200 a month. We pay nothing more.
I must shout "shut the firetruck up Forrest!" At least 6 times an episode. I listen to this through headphones while gardening for people. Have had 5 clients so far ask me at the end of the job "who's Forrest?"
Ahahahaha this made me chuckle so hard!! (And also I figured before even reading the comment that firetruck was the extended version of what was really said)
I had a serious accident here in Canada. I was hit by a truck while riding my bicycle. I was in the hospital for 5 months. It didn't cost me a dime. If I had to pay for it out of my pocket it would have been over 2 million. Thank God got OHIP coverage her in Ontario Canada.
Hey Jim and the gang, I'm from Canada and yes you have to healthcare but you can also get private health insurance on top off that. It covers things like medication, all different types of therapies like physical and mental, it also covers private rooms in the hospital and out of province expenses cause some provinces don't cover the same as the province you are from. Also with Canadian healthcare you can pick your did and any hospital.
Sorry, I also forgot to mention that I got a kidney and a pancreas transplant and it didn't cost me an arm and a leg, pun totally intended. I met some great people online while I was dialysis who don't want a transplant because dialysis is covered by the government but transplant isn't. The sad thing is the longer you are on dialysis, the greater chance of death. As someone who spent only 3 years on dialysis, I would have stopped and just ended it all because it's a horrible "life."
For our family most prescriptions are covered and sometimes maybe we have to pay 10% of the cost but that doesn’t happen often. I wonder if it varies by province.
in the US and unemployed, got insurance through my state that pays for everything and thank god they do, got a blood clot in my lungs from covid and have to take blood thinners for 6 months and if i was paying out of pocket it would cost me 800 every 2 weeks. this system is so messed up
In the UK I was paying (on the NHS) £12 for a monthly prescription for blood thinners after getting a clot, in China it was about £200/month privately, about £180/month privately in Thailand and about the same in Malaysia too. $800/fortnight you must be getting screwed, unless that included scans or an mri.
@@JK_Clark thankfully, insurance it didnt cost me a thing, they charged my insurance about 20k for the overnight visit to the ER, and insurance also covering my meds but if i didnt have that i'd be screwed
@@brennendehart3602 According to Jim and the others, uninsured are being screwed while insurers have the power to negotiate. Also, according to them Americans pay 3x what the rest of the world pays. $12,500/yr insurance on average, for an average salary in the UK ($35k) the entire tax bill ($6.5k) isn't as much .
Yes Kelly. I’m a single father of two. 9/12.both girls. You learn how to make things happen. You become a master of recycling and utilization of on hand assets lol.
@59:28 quick, fly back to Australia, I've had two MRI bulk billed in the last five years. I'm glad my health insurance isn't attached to my employment...
The hospitals have ridiculous prices because they know the insurance companies will negotiate them down . The problem is those without insurance are charged the ridiculous price as they have no one to negotiate that down
In Australia on the Gold Coast, the hospital offered us a bed in my mothers private room in palliative care, so that we can be with her when she passed away and she had no insurance and not an Australian citizen and it cost us nothing. I wonder if this is available in the US and at what cost.
The NHS was modeled on the railway workers co-op in Swindon. Each worker paid a small sum out of their wages & this paid for the dr & nurses & the hospital the also built.
When it comes to emergency life threatening illnesses and accidents, the Australian system is top notch, and they save your life for free because it is covered by Medicare. Dentistry and mental health are 2 areas that could do with major improvements though, but that's probably true of most countries systems. Also, going to your GP (also free) to try and diagnose a medical complaint can be very frustrating if the problem isn't straight forward, most doctors in my experience are reluctant to send you to specialists that bill the Medicare system, and that's if there even are any that will, or tell you the specialist that you need will cost you hundreds just for a consultation. But if you pay for that specialist and they find something that can be fixed with surgery you will get that surgery for free, just probably not by said specialist unless you have private health insurance that pays him to do it in a private hospital.... but then you have to pay extras that your insurance didn't cover, like daily bed rates (I don't remember exactly but there were some really ridiculous extra charges that were quoted to me for after surgery care). So for that reason I choose the public system, it's not perfect, but I am extremely thankful for it every time I or someone close to me gets properly sick or injured. It is definitely 1 of the things this country does a pretty bloody good job of in my experience.... As well as, aged care, unemployment, and our personal (individual) tax system.... but they are completely different topics, and I'm sure many would say controversial opinions.... But all in all, I am stoked to be living in such an awesome and beautiful country.
I will agree with everything you said but ill add the caveat that while private healthcare in Australia isn't cheap it's not like the US's version of expensive. My ex-husband wanted to get a bullet that was lodged in his heart cavity removed, he had been shot years earlier in his home country, the Dr said removing now might do more harm than good, so it would be better to leave it in there. Had the DR recommended its removal then the surgery would have been free, but since my ex was insistent on going against medical advice he would have to go private which would cost $10,000 AUD, a surgery that would cost at least ($100,000 USD in America in the public health care system). I also called up about private health insurance they said you have to be a member with us for 12months then we will pay for it, and membership was like $180 p/m which I personally thought was alot (it was in fairness the price was more expensive than the norm because of the bullet), but again it is not a lot in comparison to the US where healthy people pay like $500 on average, not to mention he probably wouldn't even be eligible for insurance in the US at all seeing that the bullet would be seen as a pre-existing condition, I pretty sure that is something that the government has mandated insurance companies aren't allowed to do in Austalia. So while I definitely agree with you on that there needs to be work done on dental, mental, and specialists (defo not enough specialists bulk bill) I would also add medication to that list some medication that in NZ would be free would cost more over $80 per month but then again the same medication would cost me hundred's in the US so its all relative, and ambulance cover, some people can't afford the $75 per year so they defo can't afford the $4000 ambulance bill (I'm not sure if that's covered by a healthcare card as I'm not eligible for those) but other than that, the system works great, but anything is better than the US system, and I got all this as a NZ citizen (I' didn't even have permanent residency in Australia) Note: aside from my NZ citizenship (which is how I live in Australia without a VISA or permanent residency) I also have US citizenship as I was born in America to an American father and a NZ mother, but there is a reason I choose to live in Australia rather than America and that reason is healthcare.
@@resolecca oh we are definitely way better off here, I definitely wasn't comparing us to the us 😆 It's not perfect, but I doubt anyone here has ever been bankrupted by getting sick. I hope everything turned out good with that surgery 👍
Most of the more severe illnesses happen to people by an upsetting event happening in their lives that takes them by surprise, unexpectedly, impacting first in the brain, then in the corresponding organ which that part of the brain controls. The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, your home, your community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death. Why are so many people across the world suddenly having their appendix removed? The appendix is associated with “being in fear for one’s life”. The HEALING phase is the rupture/inflammation.
While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes.
Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way.
It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable. One hundred years later, a Fear Campaign begins, using the media to spread it......
*_So the other day I was thinking: it's been a while since Jim has posted on RUclips, I hope he's doing well-and then I realized RUclips had un-subscribed me from your channel AGAIN_*
I've heard people's insurance cost went up because the ACA set minimum standards. Some people were paying for pos insurance and they have to actually pay for real coverage now.
Never gonna happen. Big business has bought and paid for America and we've all somehow been led to believe voting pro big business = freedom (in general)
I've got an idea! What if an American individuals health insurance premium increased with every registered firearm? Less gun crime and cheaper to be ill! X
TL;DR "It's expensive to be poor.." eg Joe can only afford $25 boots, they wear out after a year.. Frank bought some nice $60 boots and he has been using them for the past 4 years.. From medicine to cars it's always the little guy that gets the short sick..
How do I bring up "cunt" like you use it when I talk to an Australian? I make Indians get used to it but I don't know what to do with someone from down under.
You can 100% get private insurances on top of the socialized healthcare in Canada , but the show is called "idk" afterall so it's okay. Kelly is based af
@@brianthaxton229 what's that got to do with the subject? I live in the UK and health care is paid for via our taxes & is free at the point of use. We pay £9.80 for each item on our prescription. We also have private healthcare for those that are willing to pay for it
Dam, I’ve been putting off subscribing to the IDKAT Patreon for a while, I’ve been wanting it but been holding out to save money. But now that they put Jacks segment and the whole preshow on patreon I think I’m gonna have to get it. Oh well, $5/month to hear more of my favorite comedian seems worth it anyway
Will you please please please re read the ass eating hello tushy ad again? Big big fan of yours 5 star podcast and literally the only thing I listen to anymore!
As a kiwi/American person who lived in Australia for 13 years and just came back to nz pre-covid. Australia has a far far superior health care system not perfect, and nz system is superior to my homeland of the US but still far lacking comparison to the Aussies
The NHS has saved my life on numerous occasions and the subject of finding money was never even raised. Then I moved to the Netherlands and enjoyed the same deal. Americans get offended when people call them dumb, then they argue against universal medicine. That's why Forest is hedging his bets and keeps on throwing out the "that is just an opinion" disclaimer every time Jim states that which is blindingly obvious to the rest of the developed world. Then the same people who argue against universal healthcare eat themselves into a diabetic coma and lose their homes. And people think that's dumb. Go figure.
I had a terrible experience with Obamacare and so I want to share this with the expert who said that he isn't sure why people are opposed to it unless it is political. First off I am non-partisan and I abhore the Republican party, enough said about the politics. I live in Florida so I know that's part of the problem. I worked for a company whose CEO is a giant piece of shit and as soon as Obamacare was passed he fucked our insurance so badly it was unusable. My costs sky rocketed and I am not one of those people who cannot use those shitty high deductible plans. I actually go to the doctor frequently because I am special. When the employees complained about what they did to us, he would say "Well this is what Obamacare is". Later we found out the son of a bitch wanted to make our insurance so bad everyone would move over to Obamacare and get off of the company insurance. I don't know what he was thinking because I am pretty sure that's not how that worked at the time. My insurance became unusable garbage. I know it was the CEO's doing, but Obamacare was the catalyst. Lastly, I did actually have a few plans from Obamacare and they were absolute horse shit plans that cost me more than anything I have ever had. Once again I live in Florida and I know that factors in because Rick Scott is a fucking asshole. So yeah I fucking hate Obamacare, it ruined everything for me. Great that it is helping some people but it sure fucked me raw. No thanks.
@@jacobray8685 I listen to the podcast. I knew someone was going to say "That was the company you worked for". I would agree with you, but after I quit that company I had to work as a contractor before going fulltime and I had the joy of using Obamacare. It is unusable trash because the highest tier I could afford was Bronze which is trash tier. To give you an idea was $250-300 a month with hardly any coverage. I already indicated I live in Florida, it is a Republican run state that did refuse government money. Rick Scott and his colleagues can go to hell for that. To be perfectly clear, I am all for a single payer program, but not if it is going to be trash like what I experienced.
@@jacobray8685 that I can agree with. That's all I want is acknowledgement that it isn't perfect and it is absolutely unusable bullshit in red states like Florida because politicians made it political. I get that it worked for other people which is great, but it sure as shit didn't work for me and I got screwed greatly. So to hear that expert say "Yeah not sure why people hate it." Right here buddy! Giving you anecdotal life experience.
Medical Upcoding, Medical Gaslighting, Private Insurance forwarding specific bills to Medicaid or Medicare under Welfare even if a parient has private insurance with a copay?
What?.. lol sounds like a bunch of gibberish healthcare type words without any structure of a sentence. Unless this is a reference to something in the episode I haven’t got to yet I’m just confused by it lol
Whatever system is in place, people should be incentivized to avoid unhealthy habits and engage in healthy habits. And, there should be individual costs for the people who cause their own accident....for example, I don't think my taxes should pay for a snowboarder who broke their leg while going down a dangerous slope. Or something.
"there should be individual costs for the people who cause their own accident". That doesn't work, because the grey areas are massive. An insurance company could use that clause to get out of virtually all pay outs except for congenital conditions (ie stuff you are born with). Almost every other medical condition you can come up with can be laid at the feet of some or other choice you made or refused to make at some point in your life. Any diet related illness will be charged directly to the patient. Too fat? It was your choice to eat and not exercise. Anorexia? Your choice not to eat. Diabetes? Heart disease? High blood pressure? Not covered! And I haven't even mentioned anything that isn't caused by obesity, but is seriously exacerbated by it, which most conditions are. Then there's accidents. You slipped and broke your arm? Weren't you watching where you were walking? Didn't you know it was icy conditions? Lets spend two years paying lawyers to argue every single case to assess culpability? You ate a peanut and you're allergic? Fuck you, you should be more careful. You caught a disease from some guy who sneezed while standing next to you in a bar? Nobody forced you to drink in that bar... pay up! You put your back out trying to get the top off a jar or wringing out a cloth (happens a lot btw!)? Serves you right. I broke a knee pushing a car of a stranger who had broken down at the side of the road with a flat battery. The car started suddenly and lurched forward while I was pushing and I fell forward and my knee smashed into the road. The car just continued on its way as the driver shouted "thanks". Was I to blame for being a good citizen? Under your system of "your fault-you pay" medical care, an insurance company would have kept me tied up for years, and I would have to somehow prove I was forced to push the car. Nah. You really haven't thought that one through. Either that or you are a lawyer trying to drum up business.
@@resolecca I meant in America. Very few in America get Pensions those were phased out decades ago. I think maybe some government jobs still have them but that’s it.
Regarding Jim mentioning people are not in Australia and therefore shouldn’t comment on the current situation. I am in Australia and it’s terrible, limits on how far you can go from your house, limits on house guests and those people need to be specifically named, mask mandates on and off constantly, limits on how long you can exercise outside, police arresting people for posting facts and attempting to organise protests online, police beating those protestors to get them to leave, random police checks on people in isolation to ensure compliance, fines of thousands of dollars for individuals and business owners who don’t keep up with the rules, literal ‘isolation’ camps that some states are forcing people into and full scale police man hunts if they leave.. our health care here is fine but if I had to pay for private to get rid of all that stuff I’d do it in a second.
long time fan, watched every episode. and thank you for moving jack's segment behind a paywall, it was the most boring and annoying part and just ruined the flow of the show. cheers
Has anyone asked this guy yet if he still thinks his home country of Australia is as free as it could be without guns? Now that all the citizens are being rounded up and thrown into prisons? Has anyone said anything to him about this? As he bothered to come out to say anything about his country?
@@Rainbowgrrl well not all. But you're doing fine ignoring that there are people being held against their will there in places that are in centralized locations.
I am not digging the topics lately. The format is great and Jim is great with it but I was expecting more science, history, engineering and so on. Lately it seems like you just have your friends on. I mean health insurance, solar power, in vitro fertilization, these topics are so narrow and just boring to me. Whats next, pool cleaning?
My son had 4 open heart surgeries before he was 5, numerous other interventions and hospitalisations and it never cost a cent in Australia. I don’t want to think about what would have happened if it did
While america doesn't have good health insurance, St. Judes will usually foot the bill for children who are dealing with terminal and life threatening illnesses, so that they can get the treatment they need
Crikey, hope the young fellow is well now.
John Vise he’s going well considering the very shaky start
Poor lil tacker! We are very lucky with our hospitals really, even if the government does keep cutting the funding to them.
Here in Mexico; my niece, after being born on the 25th week of pregnancy was hospitalized for several months, on intensive care for a couple of them; had surgery twice, had a couple ambulance rides to another city for her to see a more specialized eye doctor... She is now making a full recovery and it did't cost a penny.
Komrade Kelly: "I hate the rich."
I'm from Texas, so everything I learned specifically about my state horrified me, but it didn't surprise me. The way "small government" conservatives govern is to govern poorly and then turn around and tell you that government sucks because they do everything poorly. Can't believe I used to support the republican party years ago.
Good guest today!
THANK YOU for this episode, Mr. Jim Jefferies...always a huge fan and grateful for all of the laughs through the years...and you are very intelligent with common sense...
I went to hospital 4 times last year. Operated on twice & was charged NOTHING in Australia 🇦🇺
were you put in a fun covid camp too?
It’s so frustrating and sad to read these comments and see how many people from other countries look at americas healthcare system and they don’t understand how it can be this fucked up here. Simple answer. In America, healthcare isn’t seen as a right, it’s seen as a business. Capitalism is sacred, and profits are all that matters. Even if it’s at the expense of peoples health and well being. Americans hate this system but tearing it all down and starting over is such a monumental task at this point. It’s nearly impossible to fix. First thing is abandoning the idea that profit is priority #1. But that’s America for you. The dollar is god.
It's fucked up alright and both parties need to agree or everyone be replaced...and drug companies should be regulated...
Most of the more severe illnesses happen to people by an upsetting event happening in their lives that takes them by surprise, unexpectedly, impacting first in the brain, then in the corresponding organ which that part of the brain controls. The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, your home, your community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death. Why are so many people across the world suddenly having their appendix removed? The appendix is associated with “being in fear for one’s life”. The HEALING phase is the rupture/inflammation.
While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes.
Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way.
It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable. One hundred years later, a Fear Campaign begins, using the media to spread it......
Basicly the company’s own the congress over there, don’t start about guns right.
And something like 50 % pre-packed food would be illegal europa cause we got higher standards!
When I lived in Brisbane I went to the hospital and needed an MRI for something. Got charged nothing and I wasnt even a citizen. I did have a Medibank card but I filled out zero paperwork and they sorted me out and I left.
Who would have thought that a podcast could turn Tuesday into my favorite day of the week? Not me, that's for fucking sure.
I like My healthcare and don't quite understand the issues everyone says Canada has. I haven't experienced long wait times etc.
Not to say there aren't issues, but as a father of 4 my kids hurt themselves a lot. Cost me nothing.
Their births cost me nothing.
My grandson had heart surgery as a baby. Cost me nothing.
My ex wife and I have insurance through our work. So medical and dental costs us 200 a month. We pay nothing more.
Its better than nothing " Americans health care"
I must shout "shut the firetruck up Forrest!" At least 6 times an episode.
I listen to this through headphones while gardening for people. Have had 5 clients so far ask me at the end of the job "who's Forrest?"
That's funny
@@PlayNiceFolkssecret, I don't actually say firetruck ;)
Ahahahaha this made me chuckle so hard!! (And also I figured before even reading the comment that firetruck was the extended version of what was really said)
Just to be clear, Forrest’s dead baby joke was gold.
I had a serious accident here in Canada. I was hit by a truck while riding my bicycle. I was in the hospital for 5 months. It didn't cost me a dime. If I had to pay for it out of my pocket it would have been over 2 million. Thank God got OHIP coverage her in Ontario Canada.
Hey Jim and the gang, I'm from Canada and yes you have to healthcare but you can also get private health insurance on top off that. It covers things like medication, all different types of therapies like physical and mental, it also covers private rooms in the hospital and out of province expenses cause some provinces don't cover the same as the province you are from. Also with Canadian healthcare you can pick your did and any hospital.
Sorry, I also forgot to mention that I got a kidney and a pancreas transplant and it didn't cost me an arm and a leg, pun totally intended. I met some great people online while I was dialysis who don't want a transplant because dialysis is covered by the government but transplant isn't. The sad thing is the longer you are on dialysis, the greater chance of death. As someone who spent only 3 years on dialysis, I would have stopped and just ended it all because it's a horrible "life."
Sounds very similar to ours in Australia
For our family most prescriptions are covered and sometimes maybe we have to pay 10% of the cost but that doesn’t happen often. I wonder if it varies by province.
@@adis95 yes it does very by province. The healthcare in our country is set by whomever is in power. Are you in a more liberal province?
in the US and unemployed, got insurance through my state that pays for everything and thank god they do, got a blood clot in my lungs from covid and have to take blood thinners for 6 months and if i was paying out of pocket it would cost me 800 every 2 weeks. this system is so messed up
In the UK I was paying (on the NHS) £12 for a monthly prescription for blood thinners after getting a clot, in China it was about £200/month privately, about £180/month privately in Thailand and about the same in Malaysia too. $800/fortnight you must be getting screwed, unless that included scans or an mri.
@@JK_Clark thankfully, insurance it didnt cost me a thing, they charged my insurance about 20k for the overnight visit to the ER, and insurance also covering my meds but if i didnt have that i'd be screwed
@@brennendehart3602 According to Jim and the others, uninsured are being screwed while insurers have the power to negotiate. Also, according to them Americans pay 3x what the rest of the world pays. $12,500/yr insurance on average, for an average salary in the UK ($35k) the entire tax bill ($6.5k) isn't as much .
The AMA is the NRA for For-Profit Medical Insurance companies.
Christ on a bike that was a rough episode. C’mon, America, let’s get our shit together
Even a pandemic hasn't significantly shifted the needle
Yes Kelly. I’m a single father of two. 9/12.both girls. You learn how to make things happen. You become a master of recycling and utilization of on hand assets lol.
@59:28 quick, fly back to Australia, I've had two MRI bulk billed in the last five years.
I'm glad my health insurance isn't attached to my employment...
The hospitals have ridiculous prices because they know the insurance companies will negotiate them down . The problem is those without insurance are charged the ridiculous price as they have no one to negotiate that down
The more I listen, the more countries I Google to emigrate to.
In Australia on the Gold Coast, the hospital offered us a bed in my mothers private room in palliative care, so that we can be with her when she passed away and she had no insurance and not an Australian citizen and it cost us nothing. I wonder if this is available in the US and at what cost.
The NHS was modeled on the railway workers co-op in Swindon. Each worker paid a small sum out of their wages & this paid for the dr & nurses & the hospital the also built.
Good morning Morocco 🇲🇦!!! Aaaaahh. Happy New Years !!! Good morning brother Jim. Nice way to start my morning!!!
Happy new year guys!!! 💚👍
When it comes to emergency life threatening illnesses and accidents, the Australian system is top notch, and they save your life for free because it is covered by Medicare. Dentistry and mental health are 2 areas that could do with major improvements though, but that's probably true of most countries systems.
Also, going to your GP (also free) to try and diagnose a medical complaint can be very frustrating if the problem isn't straight forward, most doctors in my experience are reluctant to send you to specialists that bill the Medicare system, and that's if there even are any that will, or tell you the specialist that you need will cost you hundreds just for a consultation.
But if you pay for that specialist and they find something that can be fixed with surgery you will get that surgery for free, just probably not by said specialist unless you have private health insurance that pays him to do it in a private hospital.... but then you have to pay extras that your insurance didn't cover, like daily bed rates (I don't remember exactly but there were some really ridiculous extra charges that were quoted to me for after surgery care).
So for that reason I choose the public system, it's not perfect, but I am extremely thankful for it every time I or someone close to me gets properly sick or injured.
It is definitely 1 of the things this country does a pretty bloody good job of in my experience.... As well as, aged care, unemployment, and our personal (individual) tax system.... but they are completely different topics, and I'm sure many would say controversial opinions.... But all in all, I am stoked to be living in such an awesome and beautiful country.
I will agree with everything you said but ill add the caveat that while private healthcare in Australia isn't cheap it's not like the US's version of expensive. My ex-husband wanted to get a bullet that was lodged in his heart cavity removed, he had been shot years earlier in his home country, the Dr said removing now might do more harm than good, so it would be better to leave it in there. Had the DR recommended its removal then the surgery would have been free, but since my ex was insistent on going against medical advice he would have to go private which would cost $10,000 AUD, a surgery that would cost at least ($100,000 USD in America in the public health care system).
I also called up about private health insurance they said you have to be a member with us for 12months then we will pay for it, and membership was like $180 p/m which I personally thought was alot (it was in fairness the price was more expensive than the norm because of the bullet), but again it is not a lot in comparison to the US where healthy people pay like $500 on average, not to mention he probably wouldn't even be eligible for insurance in the US at all seeing that the bullet would be seen as a pre-existing condition, I pretty sure that is something that the government has mandated insurance companies aren't allowed to do in Austalia.
So while I definitely agree with you on that there needs to be work done on dental, mental, and specialists (defo not enough specialists bulk bill) I would also add medication to that list some medication that in NZ would be free would cost more over $80 per month but then again the same medication would cost me hundred's in the US so its all relative, and ambulance cover, some people can't afford the $75 per year so they defo can't afford the $4000 ambulance bill (I'm not sure if that's covered by a healthcare card as I'm not eligible for those) but other than that, the system works great, but anything is better than the US system, and I got all this as a NZ citizen (I' didn't even have permanent residency in Australia)
Note: aside from my NZ citizenship (which is how I live in Australia without a VISA or permanent residency) I also have US citizenship as I was born in America to an American father and a NZ mother, but there is a reason I choose to live in Australia rather than America and that reason is healthcare.
@@resolecca oh we are definitely way better off here, I definitely wasn't comparing us to the us 😆
It's not perfect, but I doubt anyone here has ever been bankrupted by getting sick.
I hope everything turned out good with that surgery 👍
Most of the more severe illnesses happen to people by an upsetting event happening in their lives that takes them by surprise, unexpectedly, impacting first in the brain, then in the corresponding organ which that part of the brain controls. The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, your home, your community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death. Why are so many people across the world suddenly having their appendix removed? The appendix is associated with “being in fear for one’s life”. The HEALING phase is the rupture/inflammation.
While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes.
Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way.
It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable. One hundred years later, a Fear Campaign begins, using the media to spread it......
@@questioneverything7582 lol dropping this comment on every Jim Jefferies video, you really do need psychiatric help
One of your most interesting ✊
*_So the other day I was thinking: it's been a while since Jim has posted on RUclips, I hope he's doing well-and then I realized RUclips had un-subscribed me from your channel AGAIN_*
I've heard people's insurance cost went up because the ACA set minimum standards. Some people were paying for pos insurance and they have to actually pay for real coverage now.
Happy new year everyone 🥳
9:30 "Why would a healthy young person want to spend money on health insurance"
Bill Hicks died of Cancer at 32 years old.
1:08:54 I wonder if Forrest has ever had a heckler yell "Undefined!"
I am with Jim, as an Australian America healthcare system looks broken, make it free, it is an investment like education.
Unfortunately America doesn't invest in education either
As much as I agree with u try getting that through Americans thick skulls
Never gonna happen. Big business has bought and paid for America and we've all somehow been led to believe voting pro big business = freedom (in general)
Here's to 2022 starting off right!!!!
Jim, get Forest, Kelly, Jack their dental coverage.
Part time gig Jim doesn’t legally have to hahah
Profiting from peoples' misfortune is considered ethical nowadays?
Good thing there's no wealthy people in the public sector.
It's considered smart business.
That's how the world has always worked
I've got an idea! What if an American individuals health insurance premium increased with every registered firearm? Less gun crime and cheaper to be ill! X
What if Americans pay taxes and have free health care.
@Robert Curtis lol love that @Jeremy Moore of corse that's the best solution but in the meantime @Robert Curtis has a point
Most crimes are committed with unregistered firearms
@@yaboi4254 or borrowed/stolen from someone who is registered.
It just sounds unreal to me that there's no universal public health insurance in the USA; being used to it my whole life in Mexico.
Forgot to mention that there is next to none health care in the public hospitals. Criminal in most countries.
It's all capitalist here...
TL;DR "It's expensive to be poor.."
eg
Joe can only afford $25 boots, they wear out after a year.. Frank bought some nice $60 boots and he has been using them for the past 4 years..
From medicine to cars it's always the little guy that gets the short sick..
💯 FACTS
'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.
How do I bring up "cunt" like you use it when I talk to an Australian? I make Indians get used to it but I don't know what to do with someone from down under.
Got in my 1st 2 car Collison today no injuries but what a great time to see this
Go Kelly🎉🎉, Yes tax the rich!!📣📢
So, what, Jack's not gonna be on the podcast anymore?! Noooooo!!! I love Jack's segments, and him being there in general.... Bring back Jack!!!!!
I’m with you
very informative
You can 100% get private insurances on top of the socialized healthcare in Canada , but the show is called "idk" afterall so it's okay. Kelly is based af
Then it is not true socialized healthcare
@@brianthaxton229 what's that got to do with the subject? I live in the UK and health care is paid for via our taxes & is free at the point of use. We pay £9.80 for each item on our prescription. We also have private healthcare for those that are willing to pay for it
I need to get health insurance if I am going to ride freestyle bmx.
Grill your PB&J like a grilled cheese sandwich...it's stupid tasty! 😋
I think I can speak for most English people and say "You don't know what you're doing" when it comes to health care!
Dam, I’ve been putting off subscribing to the IDKAT Patreon for a while, I’ve been wanting it but been holding out to save money. But now that they put Jacks segment and the whole preshow on patreon I think I’m gonna have to get it. Oh well, $5/month to hear more of my favorite comedian seems worth it anyway
For a sec there Jim sounded like Aussy Courtney Barnett's
Avant-Gardner. Give a listen.
Jesus you need to hit the gym Jim. Stay healthy the world needs comedy and you bring a lot to the table. Txs 🇨🇦 moving on..................
Jokes on you I would always skip to "judging a book by its cover" segment.
Will you please please please re read the ass eating hello tushy ad again? Big big fan of yours 5 star podcast and literally the only thing I listen to anymore!
Last time I was this early my wife said "...already??"
Germany has a great health insurance, but taxes will eat up 40% of your pay check. the kiwi people did it best in my opinion.
As a kiwi/American person who lived in Australia for 13 years and just came back to nz pre-covid. Australia has a far far superior health care system not perfect, and nz system is superior to my homeland of the US but still far lacking comparison to the Aussies
Please bring Mr. Jarrod Kimber back!
The NHS has saved my life on numerous occasions and the subject of finding money was never even raised. Then I moved to the Netherlands and enjoyed the same deal.
Americans get offended when people call them dumb, then they argue against universal medicine. That's why Forest is hedging his bets and keeps on throwing out the "that is just an opinion" disclaimer every time Jim states that which is blindingly obvious to the rest of the developed world.
Then the same people who argue against universal healthcare eat themselves into a diabetic coma and lose their homes. And people think that's dumb. Go figure.
I'm in Brawley teaching
I had a terrible experience with Obamacare and so I want to share this with the expert who said that he isn't sure why people are opposed to it unless it is political. First off I am non-partisan and I abhore the Republican party, enough said about the politics. I live in Florida so I know that's part of the problem. I worked for a company whose CEO is a giant piece of shit and as soon as Obamacare was passed he fucked our insurance so badly it was unusable. My costs sky rocketed and I am not one of those people who cannot use those shitty high deductible plans. I actually go to the doctor frequently because I am special. When the employees complained about what they did to us, he would say "Well this is what Obamacare is". Later we found out the son of a bitch wanted to make our insurance so bad everyone would move over to Obamacare and get off of the company insurance. I don't know what he was thinking because I am pretty sure that's not how that worked at the time. My insurance became unusable garbage. I know it was the CEO's doing, but Obamacare was the catalyst.
Lastly, I did actually have a few plans from Obamacare and they were absolute horse shit plans that cost me more than anything I have ever had. Once again I live in Florida and I know that factors in because Rick Scott is a fucking asshole.
So yeah I fucking hate Obamacare, it ruined everything for me. Great that it is helping some people but it sure fucked me raw. No thanks.
@@jacobray8685 I listen to the podcast. I knew someone was going to say "That was the company you worked for". I would agree with you, but after I quit that company I had to work as a contractor before going fulltime and I had the joy of using Obamacare. It is unusable trash because the highest tier I could afford was Bronze which is trash tier. To give you an idea was $250-300 a month with hardly any coverage. I already indicated I live in Florida, it is a Republican run state that did refuse government money. Rick Scott and his colleagues can go to hell for that. To be perfectly clear, I am all for a single payer program, but not if it is going to be trash like what I experienced.
@@jacobray8685 that I can agree with. That's all I want is acknowledgement that it isn't perfect and it is absolutely unusable bullshit in red states like Florida because politicians made it political. I get that it worked for other people which is great, but it sure as shit didn't work for me and I got screwed greatly. So to hear that expert say "Yeah not sure why people hate it." Right here buddy! Giving you anecdotal life experience.
In the US the insurance company is the doctor they say what they can do for you Dr never decide what a load of bull
Pretty sure specialists in Australia can charge what they like.
MERRY XMAS HAPPY NEW YEAR JIM AND COMPANY EVERYONE
Kelly?
Can I get German private insurance to cover me HERE?
Govie Gives!!! Woo woo
this is the reason you couldn't pay me enough to live in the states
disliking every jack-free episode
I’m with ya on that!
fuck me that dog's alive
That's why I made a program
Medical Upcoding, Medical Gaslighting, Private Insurance forwarding specific bills to Medicaid or Medicare under Welfare even if a parient has private insurance with a copay?
What?.. lol sounds like a bunch of gibberish healthcare type words without any structure of a sentence. Unless this is a reference to something in the episode I haven’t got to yet I’m just confused by it lol
I married a Belgian/Brit. That Iis my health insurance 😄
1:02:44 Stop. $1 of savings on life saving healthcare or $1 of profits.
You’ve got to feel sorry for a widow who’s husband dies “on the job.”
Godfree nugget is the man.
lool this is the exact video on patreon..
K no ads, you cut jack out entirely
Maaaaaan; you guys could've waited to half a million subs. before putting the good stuff on patreon, come on.
jack whatever you do DO NOT SEARCH UP zebra seahorse
Walmart Fauci was a great guest
Whatever system is in place, people should be incentivized to avoid unhealthy habits and engage in healthy habits. And, there should be individual costs for the people who cause their own accident....for example, I don't think my taxes should pay for a snowboarder who broke their leg while going down a dangerous slope. Or something.
"there should be individual costs for the people who cause their own accident".
That doesn't work, because the grey areas are massive. An insurance company could use that clause to get out of virtually all pay outs except for congenital conditions (ie stuff you are born with). Almost every other medical condition you can come up with can be laid at the feet of some or other choice you made or refused to make at some point in your life.
Any diet related illness will be charged directly to the patient.
Too fat? It was your choice to eat and not exercise.
Anorexia? Your choice not to eat.
Diabetes? Heart disease? High blood pressure? Not covered!
And I haven't even mentioned anything that isn't caused by obesity, but is seriously exacerbated by it, which most conditions are.
Then there's accidents.
You slipped and broke your arm? Weren't you watching where you were walking? Didn't you know it was icy conditions? Lets spend two years paying lawyers to argue every single case to assess culpability?
You ate a peanut and you're allergic? Fuck you, you should be more careful.
You caught a disease from some guy who sneezed while standing next to you in a bar? Nobody forced you to drink in that bar... pay up!
You put your back out trying to get the top off a jar or wringing out a cloth (happens a lot btw!)? Serves you right.
I broke a knee pushing a car of a stranger who had broken down at the side of the road with a flat battery. The car started suddenly and lurched forward while I was pushing and I fell forward and my knee smashed into the road. The car just continued on its way as the driver shouted "thanks". Was I to blame for being a good citizen? Under your system of "your fault-you pay" medical care, an insurance company would have kept me tied up for years, and I would have to somehow prove I was forced to push the car.
Nah. You really haven't thought that one through. Either that or you are a lawyer trying to drum up business.
He cares about what ur doing now
Pension?? Who gets that? No one I know.
My mum for starters
@@resolecca I meant in America. Very few in America get Pensions those were phased out decades ago. I think maybe some government jobs still have them but that’s it.
@@gmotionedc5412 oh OK, my bad
that foot twitching is driving me crazy. please pan the camera up. please
you look like my mirror-image, what do you do in Hollywood? ( wanna get into those secret circles? with depp and charlie and all the other guys...
Regarding Jim mentioning people are not in Australia and therefore shouldn’t comment on the current situation. I am in Australia and it’s terrible, limits on how far you can go from your house, limits on house guests and those people need to be specifically named, mask mandates on and off constantly, limits on how long you can exercise outside, police arresting people for posting facts and attempting to organise protests online, police beating those protestors to get them to leave, random police checks on people in isolation to ensure compliance, fines of thousands of dollars for individuals and business owners who don’t keep up with the rules, literal ‘isolation’ camps that some states are forcing people into and full scale police man hunts if they leave.. our health care here is fine but if I had to pay for private to get rid of all that stuff I’d do it in a second.
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Man, I didn't know Fauci could look **more** like a Keebler elf...
I had a baby. My baby. Lost count on how many times he's said that. Says alot . None of it good.
long time fan, watched every episode. and thank you for moving jack's segment behind a paywall, it was the most boring and annoying part and just ruined the flow of the show. cheers
Bro im hearing ya
I was happy about it as well. I liked the initial episodes when they just dove in
It was mostly my fave bit!
Nothing against Jack, just that part wasn't informative or interesting.
Forrest Crappie.
Can this show stop talking about politics with almost every topic...
Has anyone asked this guy yet if he still thinks his home country of Australia is as free as it could be without guns? Now that all the citizens are being rounded up and thrown into prisons? Has anyone said anything to him about this? As he bothered to come out to say anything about his country?
We’re all being rounded up and thrown into prisons are we? What on earth are they telling you lot about us over there?!
@@Rainbowgrrl well not all.
But you're doing fine ignoring that there are people being held against their will there in places that are in centralized locations.
@@albertol2670 and what is your source of info there mate?
Take the agenda of your sources into consideration.
A country without guns sounds much more free. So many senseless killings and cycles of violence.
Cut more of the entertainment out. It is a good time to strip the show.
Also part of the reason why people need braces, it's all rigged?
I am not digging the topics lately. The format is great and Jim is great with it but I was expecting more science, history, engineering and so on. Lately it seems like you just have your friends on. I mean health insurance, solar power, in vitro fertilization, these topics are so narrow and just boring to me. Whats next, pool cleaning?
Lol what you mean? The earlier episodes were about subjects like Pies and Cheese
If you don’t think healthcare effects us all you are dumber than I thought and part of the reason our healthcare system sucks
I love these topics, shush!
Listen to something else 🙂