I haven't played magic in person in years, but I really enjoy your videos. Most of the technical stuff flys over my head, but you make me intersted in buying magic cards for the first since I last played in the mid-90's. So WotC should make you CEO.
My top 5 list: 5. Kid Haters These are the kinds of people who are like, "Oh, he's a kid? This should be easy." They think that every single kid out there sucks at the game, when, if you are smart, this is not true. Now many kids may seem inexperienced, and it's because they are. If they were an adult, they would be inexperienced too. Now, being a kid myself (obviously) I haven't noticed this too much. This is okay if it is minor, but I'm sure there are people who think kids suck no matter what. 4. Try Hards These people never let you go back on anything, even in a casual event. Sure, if it is a tourny, I get it. But just sitting down. playing casual commander should not be the place to tryhard. The stupidest things, like drawing before untapping, and they get all ragey. 3. RAGERS "WTF!!! I SHOULD HAVE WON THAT!!! *Flips table 2. Convincers These are the people that try with all their might to distract you to the fullest. Playing Grixis Delver (A complicated deck) in the finals against Abzan? They talk about their dog. Trying to make a crucial decision? "You should do that!" Just playing and your opponent misses something that is reasonable to not tell them about? "You forgot to do that." 1. Cheaters Do I have to explain this?
Cheaters may be bad, but if you ever steal someone's cards you may as well be wearing a sign around your neck that says "hey, just fucking spit on me!".
In order to deal with try hards, be a troll. Do everything that seems like you don't even care about the game. It will make them angry and they will make mistakes, and maybe even scoop em up.
On number 2, when you said "steal their decks", i kinda got a little teary eyed because last year i had constructed this brand new, homebrew zombie deck and it won a game here and there and then i heard of relentless dead (i was getting back into mtg) and i bought one and threw it in, eventually even bought a invocation card to make the deck flashy. And lo and behold, my deckbox got stolen while i was doing a fnm draft the next week and i didnt even get to play the deck w/ the new cards. I have nothing wrong against your video, just hit me hard to where i kept screaming in my head #1 has GOT TO BE deck thieves. Well now that i got that out of my system, just wanted to say 2 more things: 1, i really enjoyed your video, so keep up the great work; and 2, my fingers are now really cramped because i typed this on a flip-phone.
I knew what #1 was going to be because that is my #2. My number 1 is thieves. I have some old MtG cards that a ripped from packs back in the day and are now worth money. I actually HATE that they are worth money because now I'm afraid to play them anywhere. As the value of MtG cards continues to endlessly go up, a more unsavory element has made itself known more and more. I've lost hundreds of dollars in cards from thieves. It's to the point I don't want people to look at my deck because I'm afraid people are going to switch out my cards. I started running purple sleeves so no one would mistake my cards for theirs and now everyone is running purple sleeves. It's getting to be a real problem.
The Rage Guy, this is my favorite. I have been playing off and on for the last twenty years. Yeah I'm old and do not have as many good cards as you may think. I would always come back and play every once and awhile and if I was lucky enough a casual player like myself would beat one of these too good to lose guys. I have seen a few world class fits which resulted in people storming out of stores. Great video
I remember my first FNM. I managed to win the first two rounds and i was really happy. Third round i ended up against a complete prick. I was still very new, and i had no idea what 99% of the cards did, and i remember this guy would play a card, and then silently start moving the board around, playing tokens, moving counters, and i had no idea what was going on. I lost the first game pretty hard, then the store owner waved me over and literally told me to pay more attention and call the judge if i think he's cheating, because the guy had a history in the store. So halfway through second game, i notice that he stacks all his land cards on top of each other. He doesn't spread them out, nope. Flat on top of each other. So after he played a couple spells and a creature, i called the judge over. Turns out he was played 8 mana worth of cards, with only 5 lands on the field. Even though it was super minor, the judge DQ'd him because he'd been caught cheating in the exact same way several times (at the same store).
my favorite thing to do is to go to FNM and tell the person im facing i am new so they think its gonna be "so easy to win this game" and then they get steamrolled *by a mono blue control deck*
I would say some of my top people I could do without are: People. That's it. Just most people in general. I grew up playing back in high school (93-96) and after having some of my cards stolen, stopped for a while. I picked up again in the army around 98-2000, and again had cards stolen. That was basically it, I was done playing. Still, I carried my cards with me everywhere I moved, until one day, I decided I just didn't need them anymore. So I sold them and thought the $700 I got for all my cards was a pretty good deal, considering I never even used them. That is, until I started playing again (my gf's son plays, so I picked the game up again after almost 2 decades of silence.) Turns out that those Alpha through Revised cards I had were worth substantially more than $700. Add to that, the knowledge that Wizards is never printing most of them again, so I'd have to shell out $700 for most of them individually if I wanted them again just makes me that much angrier with people. Now when I go to my LGSs, I have to deal with rude people who alienate me because I'm effectively a "new" gamer because I took so long off. During my first ever draft (because we never did that stuff back in the day) the store owner asked if anyone present had never drafted before, and I raised my hand. One guy (a regular at the store unfortunately) looked over and yelled "Are you kidding me!?" And as far as just general annoyances, I'd have to say people who are slothful, and people who look through open card bins and treat the cards as though no one else is going to think about looking at or buying them.
I would say- Smelly Obese Neckbeards: clog the tables and walkways, smell, if they fart, clear the room. The Smart Assed Know it All: They always know the better card, the better deck, the better play. One of their favorite quotes,"Then you would really hate my xxxx deck, it does xxxx by turn x and kills you". The Alpha of the Betas: The guy that has the girlfriend with him, she isn't there to play so well, mixes Smart Assed Know it All with weird conversations with his girlfriend about their sex life. Forms a dynamic duo with-The Loud Fat Girl or the Whiner. The Whiner/Witch: This is that girl or woman that plays obnoxious decks, especially in two headed giant or commander. They are fun and smile when everything goes their way, but don't be the guy that sees their growing table threat and starts in on counters/removal or attacks. All of a sudden, you are the bad guy at the table when you hear the cry,"Why are you attacking me!" When you continue to, fits will be throws and names will be called. Also look out for the pouts and rages. Can also be male. See-person that plays a Purphoros deck in commander, has been trolling the table with Norin the Wary, then resolves a Thopter Assembly. Then, Purphoros gets exiled, Thopter Assembly destroyed and about 25+ swing damage coming their way. They have single handedly dropped the table at least 60 total life points in a matter of turns. They then say,"Why are you attacking me? I haven't attacked, I haven't done anything! Stop it!" The Loud Fat Girl: She is the neckbeard of female gamers and her thunderous laugh is heard all night. May be seen with Alpha of the Betas. She may be jolly, but boy does she break concentration by boisterously laughing at EVERYTHING. The Poor Sportsman: Can never admit a loss. Throws fits if he loses even one match to someone, or a deck he does not deem worthy, usually a Net-Decker and and a Try-Hard. Also mixes with Smart Assed Know it All. Don't be the guy or gal without a tier one deck that beats this guy. Its always that he was mana screwed or you were lucky or he had a horrible hand(Even if you did have to mulligan). The Net Decker: Not that it can be bad at all times, but this guy hasn't had an original idea in years. When he says he is thinking about making a new deck, you know its gonna be off of a Pro Tour top eight list. He says he likes playing the decks, when in reality, he is just a vessel for the decks to play themselves. Almost anything that doesn't fit into a net deck category leaves him on slow plays, always checking your cards and generally thrown for a loop. If he loses, he can turn into the Poor Sportsman. 9/10 times, he is also a Try Hard. The Try Hard: This guy acts like he lives and breaths cardboard. Winning means everything. It's not a game anymore folks. This guy doesn't let a thing slip. But do be aware of this guy's pride getting to him and he turns strait into the Cheater. He will make sure that, no matter who his opponent is, that their deck is smashed. There is nothing casual about the game to him. Usually a control/combo player. Their decks are as painfully annoying as the players-See Ensnaring Bridge Deck. The Cheater: This is the guy that peaks cards, double draws, free scrys, mana weaves or strait up stacks his deck. He will take advantage of newer players by missing triggers. He will misquote rules. He is the guy that always has his deck ready when you walk up to play and just taps yours and you tap his back. He then goes about getting the perfect mana curve and every answer in his deck. Has many traits of a Smart Assed Know it All and Try Hard. Usually a Twitch as well, as his cheating is his high. He probably gets more off of getting away with a cheat then he does winning. The Twitch: This guy has had too many Monsters and is doing the hand shuffle/flick...all of the time. He plays with his lands, they are never in the right position. He vibrates his cards when he attacks like they are some kind of live action JRPG. He taps lands, then second guesses, then taps, then takes it back. He looks at the table with great intent-Tapped out, no cards in hand, tapped creature on his side. You play a creature. He stares at it, plays with his lands, shuffles the cards in his hand, straitens his lands again, then says,"Ok, that's fine". As if he had an answer to begin with. Usually a Try Hard. Well, those are my tops. I can deal with casual beginners and kids(as long as they know what they are doing to some extent). I can deal with people that build good decks. Heck, I can deal with people that Net Deck, but then turn the deck into something of their own. Its all about the attitude(or hygiene).
+pine cone I would say hygiene can be a major issue as well, and it is not any particular size, gender or age group. I have played against players with such bad BO and/or breath that I wondered whether it was actually part of their strategy. I have gone home from a draft and changed my clothes because, an hour later, I still smell like that person! :P
SIeepwalker1 Its not about having a girlfriend, its when they play and start having loud conversations about how much sex they have, or some other torrid details of their relationship. Especially if they are losing. They assume no one else has a person to go home with, being MTG players, so they throw in something akin to,"Don't care if I lose, I am getting laid tonight" at their opponent. Or the lap sitting, excessive PDA or, dare I say, "helping" with drafting among other things.
Jim Fitzpatrick You are right, sometimes it has nothing to do with how overweight the person is when it comes to hygiene. I could say, embarrassingly enough, that I had bad hygiene as a gamer in high school. I have since learned and became aware of how nasty it makes other people feel. The thing about the big guys is, you constantly have to move for them, ask them to move, or wait for them to clear out the usually congested aisles of the game store. I guess its a required proximity thing with them. Not saying that all heavyweights are like this at all. Its just that the ones that are obese and smell make the whole experience all the more uncomfortable.
The only story at my lgs I've heard that's worth telling happened to me: in the Kaledesh pre-release and my opponent casts the 10/10 creature with affinity and I'm at 11 life. He casts sahelis artistry and copies it twice
I'm super new to Magic, as in 2-3 months new. Could you make a guide to a players first FNM? I have yet to attend one. Love your videos, keep up the great quality!
my friend has beat that land record I mean his deck was a joke deck and it was just hilarious it was lost in the woods just 4 copies of those and 57 lands
Lmao this video made me laugh so hard because of your side comments. What's even funnier is I was thinking of the people I play Magic with and I have one friend that is serious 4 of those "people" in one match. He talks about his most amazing games that he came out with a win when there was no hope but somehow he did it, he thinks he's the best, thinks his deck should always win no matter what deck he is playing with, and rages if someone beats him. I witnessed him pout one time and I was holding back my laughter and that was tough for me because he thinks he is a tough guy. Thanks for this video because it made my day!
When I was going to Friday night magic on a regular basis there were 3 people who I had a problem with. The one guy who just dragged out the game as long as possible. I think he thought that it gave him an advantage as his opponent would get bored and stop paying attention. There was this other guy who would make up rules midgame. When I was a new player I would fall for this a lot, but still end up winning. And then third guy, he would play mind games. He was good at it too. He would get you to focus on other things or slightly nudge ideas into your mind. I didn't have any personal issue with him or how he plays. I personally think it is a valid part of the game, even though I don't like doing it. I just didn't enjoy playing against him.
I was a judge for Star Wars and Star Trek through Decipher and we were not allowed to play in tournaments we hosted. We were there to keep the tournament going and making fair rulings. Also, I signed up on the Decipher website to be a judge ( circa 2000-2002)
just a note on number four. Being a judge is super easy and requires no test for level zero (which can still judge prereleases and such because of the hard method to get level 1). you have to work so many events a year to keep the cert
Im 14 and I play mtg. I got yelled at after going 3-0 in a draft. The guy told me i was a loser and I only won because I ripped zada's commando. I said i had 6 in the deck and he accused me of cheating so I had to get the people in my pod together and they all said red was open and they remembered seeing that many
+AliasSLH you can only have 4 in a constructed deck, but in a limited format like a Booster Draft you can have more then 4, it's just a chance of picking the same copy of that one card from each pack.
I like what you said about the cheaters , I was at a draft with one of the most well known cheaters in the town, and he brought a friend with him, I remember beating his friend, and then as i was going against the cheater in the finals , he asked me if we could split and and not play, which didn’t make any sense because I knew he was the better player and had an even better chance of winning because his deck was probably set up with cards he brought in outside the draft, and I told him I didn’t want to split that I would rather just win, I ended up beating him 2-0, which to me felt like the best game of magic I’ve ever played in my life just because of the fact I beat a well know cheater
No 3: Beating an Abzan guy's 250$ Modern deck in Round 1 with a 50$ Green Stompy (althrough by luck I admit) was the most sweet feeling ever. He was super-salty and left that FNM immediatly.
"Hey, so you guys wanna play a quick game? I only need like 6 more people c'mon just play." I've ran in to this so many times. The worst was at my Oath of the Gatewatch pre-release so there was this one guy he was like in his 30's and he didn't even participate in the pre-relase he literally sat there and waited for people to finish games early. Then he offered trades and offered to play with his modern mill deck.
I had been playing Magic for about a week when I tried my new deck that I had built myself against this pretty experienced guy who sit at my lunch table in 10th grade. The way I had made it was buying about 150- 200 low cost black cards with effective synergy from tcgplayer, but not all of my cards had been delivered yet, and I was eager to try out my creation, so I patched together an aggressive demon type and used it. The game was about 13 to 7 before we had to cut it short because our lunch period was ending (I was winning, and not through just luck). When I was mid sentence, explaining to him the premise of my deck and how it was so effective with minimal setup he cut me off and literally said, "I mean you're so new, but you act like you know what you're talking about.". He pissed me off so much that I threw a water bottle so hard at the back of his head that it busted on impact.
I play at a place where everyone is extremely competitive. I was in a tournament once where five out of eight people were running variations of R/G Energy Aggro because "That's the only thing that's good right now." To make matters worse, many of them are members of a species of asshole that I call "Standard Elitists," which means that once a card rotates out of Standard, it's no longer worth their attention. And they think everyone should follow that ideology. I was in the store once looking for Fate Reforged stuff, and a guy came up to me and said "Fate Reforged isn't Standard. Why do you care about those cards?"
I had another player at my LGS running Naya burn. at the end of the game had literally 13 land in play. he was running multiple fetch lands. and drew nothing but lands while I was at 3. he ended up losing. he was the most respectful person after that. shook my hand and told me good luck in the next round.
One reason to get mad (featured on lrr Friday nights: in command) at 100 life in commander and they wrath your board but your commander is a 10/9 indestructible. You then wrath their board then cast sorrin Markov making their life total 10
I think I may have you beat on the most land drops off the top. At OGW prerelease in the 3rd round I drew no lands at first, mulligan then draw 6 lands 1 creature. Mulligan down to 6... 5 lands and that same creature. Scry 1, land, put on bottom of library. Turn one he plays an ingest creature I draw a land (that's 6, technically 7 with the scry, of the top 8 cards at this moment). Second round he hits me with ingest, exiles my best card in the deck off the top of my library. On my turn I draw another land and pass turn. Round 3, ingests the second best card in my deck then I draw another land. Round 4 same thing again with ingest/land except now I can then play my creature. Round 5 he attacks. I say "if I block and trade with you this next one is gonna be another land, but if I eat the damage I bet you ingest something good again.. Okay I'll play the odds." So I block and we trade creatures. Next turn I draw another land, OF COURSE. After that I drew okay but quickly died
I remember to play with all kind of bad people like the ones described in the video and that is why I stopped playing Magic for years, then I moved to another city and I started to play Magic again a year ago and thanks God the local players are nice, it is impressive how different they are in here, they are very friendly and kind, I love to play here in Guadalajara, México. Have a nice day!
I remember when I pulled a Geist of Saint Traft while I was on vacation. Of course, since GoST is absolutely broken, one guy really wanted it saying it was worth 20 €. I politely rejected the offer, I don't trade Mythic Rares unless I happen to have another. He probably was happy to get his hands on Damnation, though. I got to bring GoST back to Finland as a souvenir, and guy got what he needed for his deck.
Honestly there is quite a lot to keep track of in a game of magic. I wouldn't directly call someone a cheater for missing a thing or two in a game. I remember a year ago at my first FNM I played out a Reclamation Sage for tempo and stated " You don't seem to have any enchantments, so no trigger". I had told him at the start that this is my first FNM and he had an Eidolon of the Great Revel on board. He could have told me that it was an ENCHANTMENT CREATURE. I had no idea there was such things. I feel like it was sort of a dick move. I have a couple of times pointed out that a creature has trample and such if they make a strange block. I know I don't need to tell them, but I feel like it is just fair game to point it out. One game I would have lethaled my opponent had I not told him that my token had trample. I ended up losing the game, but it was a fun game none the less. I think magic should be played a little like chess. If I'm checking my opponent he can't make a move that leaves him in a checked state. Magic could be a gentleman's sport, but sadly it isn't always.
I played Yugioh and I got talked down to for: My cards being bent and obviously old, No sleeves, No dice and or a coin although I had no cards in my deck that required them It was my first time playing in a official sanctioned thing, and my cards being "Poor man's excuse for a competitive deck." I want to go to FNM but I don't have sleeves for all of my decks or a trade binder and I'm afriad I will be ridiculed for it being my first time.
+eevee440 I don't think that will happen, 95% of magic players I've met have been pretty awesome, hopefully you'll have a similar experience. The no sleeves thing hurts some players but noone should be a jerk about it.
Best is the Yugioh rage fest witnessed at a LGS there were fists and cards flying all over the place. If only the cellphone had a camera I would have video'd that classic moment
You forgot to mention the "Casual Elitist". Because you don't play edh "for fun", even though you're clearly playing a game* where the goal of the game is to win. Because winning means you're not having fun.
I love it when people would forgive a missed trigger against/for any player, but comment on it after the game and would then help in making the triggers, like with Zulaport Cutthroat and Nantuko Husk or Kalitria Healer and Captain's Claws even when it hurts them.
We had a cheater at a prerelease at our LGS. I was up against him in the finals. He would draw two cards at a time. On turn three, he had played three lands, two permanents, one instant, had not drawn any additional cards other than the ubiquitous one per turn, and still had nine cards in hand. In spite of his card advantage, he was still trounced by my Avenger of Zendikar with a Beastmaster Ascension out.
I gotta say that I agree with most of the points raised in this video with the exception of the comments about the net-deckers. I usually love to play against those people because they're usually completely unprepared for the decks I tend to use which take advantage of the fact that I sort of expect certain cards to be used by my opponents. I'd probably have a much lower win percentage without the sheep following their shepherds ;)
the first town/non-offical tournament i went to among friends, i was the try hard. i really wanted to win, and did. but i complained and bitched and moaned very annoyingly at every bad draw and im still embarrassed about it to this day haha. never again.
Those people that put cards without sleeves on the table and then when they try to pick up the card they try to do it by forcing a nail underneath the card. And they try and try and the nail continues to flick of the card and damaging the edge of the card a tiny bit, but you can just FEEL the agony of the card. So painful to watch.
I played against #3, made him rage-drop round 1. It was RTR/Innistrad standard, he had a thragtusk, gravebane zombie, planeswalkers, 4 or 5 color good stuff deck with a mana base more expensive than my entire 75, which was a jeskai humans tempo thing using detain dudes, boros charm, and the wonky innistrad block "if you have humans: do stuff" cards. He raged because his $500+ deck lost to what he felt was a draft deck, he didn't report the outcome of the match, didn't tell the TO he was dropping, just picked up his deck and stormed off,. leaving his dice
I'm defo a nr 7!! And what about the guy who shows up at FMN and acts like he knows a lot, while he's only been playing for 2 and a half years? Those people are réally annoying!
I just moved to a new town and went to an FNM. Every player was running an alternative of W/U Flash I did not get to play Magic at my first FNM in this town. They where all nice though about countering every spell I casted post turn 3. That one night made me support the Reflector Mage ban
Cheaters definitely are the worse... I mean I've cheated while playing games, not necessarily in magic, but typically when I feel I'm doing really well, or when my opponent looks to be not having any fun, I'll start cheating so that the game evens out, and winning a close game is always more fun than blowing someone out of the water.
I'm a magician, or if I'm feeling really pretentious, a sleight of hand artist. I've never cheated at fnm. In very casual games with friends, when I lost the game so bad, I'm a dead man walking, I'll cheat to do something silly. Like, how did I get all these firebolts in my hand while playing mono blue. Or suddenly a platinum angel is on the field. It always gets a laugh and then I scoop.
One person tried to cheat a game with me and still lost. The person then proceeded to yell about how they cheated and how I must have cheated harder to win. Long story short, I've never seen them play MTG again.
DesolatorMagic, I have a dilemma. I cheated at two prerelease events. Once I allowed my opponent to miscount his damage he was swinging in with, and then subtracted the amount I could block from that total instead of adding up the total hitting me, and once I cast a spell without enough green sources. I didn't plan on doing these, I was just upset that I was going to have a below average record and saw these things happen. I want to make this right, and was going to offer the people that I cheated way more than the booster pack they didn't get, but I really worry about what will happen if it comes out. Obviously not cheating in the first place is the best way to avoid this, but that is no longer an option. I've tried seeing what other people have done in my situation but I have found nothing about anybody cheating and not getting caught and then wanting to make it right.
You forgot the people who when you're down on life and have a worse board state and its game 3 and they're like just give me the win there's no way. Have had this happen many times. But good list lol I have seen all of these people.
You could add people that forgets their triggers each turn. Its annoying as hell to see someone tap a vigilance creature, or forget to draw a card from an enchantment if it happens multiple times. I don't have a problem with it if it happens once or twice in a game, but when you have to babysit your opponent. That's when the game becomes more of a choir than fun.
This Video reminds me of Situation we had at our local Gaming Store about nearly 20 years ago. The Store owner wanted to do some sort of magic tournament but did not have a clue about the rules. So he asked one of the local players to make the rules for the tournament. The guy was also participating and we just assumed he used the standard rules but no he did not. He just changed restricted lists to fit his Deck. He had like four sol Rings in his Deck which were not restricted for this tournament (but only he knew). That guy got in first place (surprise surprise).
Man for me one of the worst things are the people who smell like decayed road kill stuffed up the ass of a landfill. One time I went to an fnm when I played (recently like dragons of tarkir) there was this guy like almost twice my size, I'm a hefty dude at like 250lbs, who apparently didn't shower and, dear god.... the stench of rotted skunk's carcass... I almost died.
At 0, I don't cheat, but will often ask how much the total amount of damage I take or will ask multiple times if there is a no draw card or some other special condition to read the card again. On the other hand, the most I've noticed people cheat with is drawing miracles, shuffling their hand, then playing it 2 turns later for its miracle cost, can't really prove it, but....
Worst imo are the try hards. Theres a group that regularly plays edh near me that had to ban player for being to aggressive. He ran a mono green which in edh grows out of control very quickly, so people inevitably end up focusing on him. Problem is if you dared to attack him he would get visibly angry. Its like he expected everyone to just leave him alone despite the fact that he was by far the biggest threat on the field. One night some kid took him out with a niv mizzet/curiosity combo. He did not like such a low cost combo beating his $400 try hard deck and started yelling at the poor kid who was around 13 years old. Full grown man yelled at a kid until he was crying over a card game. He was banned from the store after that.
I forgot my deck at a standard tournament and people were more than willing to let me use their extra standard decks; everyone offered and was super nice. Nobody minded
being number three here. but i was 3-0 facing off for the win. i'm playing r/g eldrazi ramp and he's playing thopter dragons. so we get to game three where he sideboards in two crumble to dusts, a very good card against my deck. game three goes like this, he plays pia and kiran getting the thopters and is pinging me for little by little every turn. i'm a turn away from getting out a world breaker when he crumble to dusts my two cinder glades on the field. the very next turn, he rips the second crumble off the top of his deck and targets the two shrine to the forsaken gods I have. I was so god damn pissed. I ended up getting a thought-knot seer and a dragonlord ojutai out of my packs. just remember guys, magic is a completely fair and skill based game.
I was at GP Melbourne which was modern last weekend and I was playing in a grinder on the Friday and I played against probably the most salty player I had ever met. And I had never seen someone so angry I was playing mono white soul sisters and he was playing U/W Eldrazi and after a long grind between him blinking his drowner of hope giving me three life a turn and making my Pridemates bigger I won game one and he was already pretty salty he kept saying "if I drew (blank) I would've won" so we go to game two which I lost and those two games took the whole 50mins as well as turn zero. So we were at 1-1 and we had to ask a judge what was to happen and it turned out the game was to go to sudden death which meant that the first change in life dictated the win or loss. Up resulting in a win and down resulting a loss. Soul sisters is designed to go up in life because of soul warden and other similar effects
Avacyn restored I pulled over 11 lands of the top of my deck. I was playing a mono green deck. With some mythic monsters and other big guy's. I had him on the ropes and then 11 lands..... I still won because I bluffed, he figured I had to have something in my hand and not 7 lands. Fun times. won the draft as well.
Some guy at FNM was playing me with a 400+ dollar Bant Company Control deck, and I had a 25 dollar red burn deck. The guy struggled early game with his deck, while mine was great. I ended up sweeping him becasue I took him out turn 5 or so. I kid you not he took my deck, threw it against the wall, then kicked a bookshelf on his storm out of the place, spilling games and dice everywhere. Everyone at my LGS now calls him "Rage Rick" because his mane was Rick and he went full rage monster. We never saw him again. Seriously dude, I got lucky and beat you before you could respond to red burn. Rage sucks.
+DesolatorMagic I agree with your list, just not the order. I have not seen any cheaters caught the places I have played, but their have been two times I thought the people did. Both times people worked at the shop and it was a pre-release. They were different places. The first guy had 2 rare cards of the exact same in his deck. I did defeat him. The second guy had 5 amazing rare cards in his deck and we only used the packs from a box. This was the following week also. His deck was to good, I will admit my deck stunk. Normally I do well very well winning packs. So I have an idea of the decks. He also was a judge.
+DesolatorMagic im going through a tough time, my mother was diagnosed with two cancerous tumors and is going through chemio, but you keep me going because of your happy attitude, so thank you.
I once traded a return to ravnica shockland for a guildgate... and didn't know i had been completely hosed until i told someone else at my LGS about it.
there was this guy at FNM at my LGS who would draw two cards each turn and no one would catch it until AFTER he LOST (😂) and people would look at his loosing board state and seeing that no one played card draw spells and then would WATCH him draw two cards. The judge then threw him out and gave his unfortunate opponent the guy's buy in plus an automatic round win in the tournament. 👌
I have a 45 minute commute to my job and I go right after work. After working 10 hours a day for an entire week and driving an hour and half minimum every day I forget things every now and then. Sorry I forgot my dice. I had a kid cheat against me on my first FNM after coming back from a long hiatus. I was pretty pissed.
I can't stand super serious people at my small local store tournaments. Most of the tournaments only have about 6-10 people. 15 maybe on Friday nights. Prize pool is only like 15-25$ for first place. I don't understand. I had a guy punch the table over me playing grim flayer without delirium but not be mad about my 6/6 Rhonas or 7/7 Servant of the Conduit. I've had people try to cheat me out of a wins as well when I was a new player and winning and it made me want to just stop playing at that store.
a lot of the people i usually hate to deal with are the guys who want the hottest rares you have for one of their jank rares that have no place in the meta and the only reason you want it was for a homebrew standard or commander deck. also agree with hating the guys who believe the only way you can win is with a 500+ dollar net deck with at least two Jaces in it.
YES! I 100% agree! especially the part about the new England patriots cause I am a Seahawks fan so LOL. that had nothing to do with mtg but LOL I hate cheaters. It is EXACTLY like stealing. Also you said you read our comments, so I wanted to tell you that I thought it would be cool if you also did some videos like the series "spellslingers" on youtube but hey it's your channel and you do what you want with it.
one of my friend legitimately shuffled their deck 30+times then I shuffled it like 10 Times it was casual so we weren't going to cheat or anything but she legitimately drew a full hand of land and then for the rest of the game pulled all the rest of her land which it was about 27 in total. how all her land got there we have no idea but it was there, all there on top like wtf lol
Oof, I might be a try hard. I think too slowly, I’m too nervous to joke, and I’m not confidant in my decisions so I’m constantly second guessing my choices.
Thanks for the great videos! I'm a noob at magic and appreciate the info and advice. Sad though that people throw people's decks and steal them. That was actually the first thing I was warned about if I get into it.
"He flipped the table, then caught the table in midair, then hit the ref in the face with the table..."
And the ref waved at me.
Fire Emblem Crit
james hetfield is the table
I haven't played magic in person in years, but I really enjoy your videos. Most of the technical stuff flys over my head, but you make me intersted in buying magic cards for the first since I last played in the mid-90's. So WotC should make you CEO.
My top 5 list:
5. Kid Haters
These are the kinds of people who are like, "Oh, he's a kid? This should be easy." They think that every single kid out there sucks at the game, when, if you are smart, this is not true. Now many kids may seem inexperienced, and it's because they are. If they were an adult, they would be inexperienced too. Now, being a kid myself (obviously) I haven't noticed this too much. This is okay if it is minor, but I'm sure there are people who think kids suck no matter what.
4. Try Hards
These people never let you go back on anything, even in a casual event. Sure, if it is a tourny, I get it. But just sitting down. playing casual commander should not be the place to tryhard. The stupidest things, like drawing before untapping, and they get all ragey.
3. RAGERS
"WTF!!! I SHOULD HAVE WON THAT!!! *Flips table
2. Convincers
These are the people that try with all their might to distract you to the fullest. Playing Grixis Delver (A complicated deck) in the finals against Abzan? They talk about their dog. Trying to make a crucial decision? "You should do that!" Just playing and your opponent misses something that is reasonable to not tell them about? "You forgot to do that."
1. Cheaters
Do I have to explain this?
I’m one of those kids bro I’m 15 then I go 3-1 at standard
yes you do have to answer that
1. Yes
@Amren van der Ploeg good for you ( :
I'm also that 'kid', I'm 14 and sometimes I'll pull through and make a sweaty tryhard a little mad...
My locals has the top table matches on stream for the other players to watch.
You'd be amazed at how quickly the cheaters moved to another shop.
+Nathan L Have you considered that some people don't want to be on stream?
+Mike Cast maybe he already knew they were cheaters?
star city?
"That's why no one likes the New England Patriots." Subscribed.
You don't hate the Patriots. You hate the fact we have Brady and you don't. Because everyone knows without Brady we will lose in the 4th quarter.
Hey I ! Like the patriots
*insert highly suspicious call from referee*
6 rings
The date on those replies tho.
Cheaters may be bad, but if you ever steal someone's cards you may as well be wearing a sign around your neck that says "hey, just fucking spit on me!".
"I like getting my ass kicked, so just have it hoss"
In order to deal with try hards, be a troll. Do everything that seems like you don't even care about the game. It will make them angry and they will make mistakes, and maybe even scoop em up.
The Devil now i understand your name. Lol
Good idea very good idea
On number 2, when you said "steal their decks", i kinda got a little teary eyed because last year i had constructed this brand new, homebrew zombie deck and it won a game here and there and then i heard of relentless dead (i was getting back into mtg) and i bought one and threw it in, eventually even bought a invocation card to make the deck flashy. And lo and behold, my deckbox got stolen while i was doing a fnm draft the next week and i didnt even get to play the deck w/ the new cards. I have nothing wrong against your video, just hit me hard to where i kept screaming in my head #1 has GOT TO BE deck thieves. Well now that i got that out of my system, just wanted to say 2 more things: 1, i really enjoyed your video, so keep up the great work; and 2, my fingers are now really cramped because i typed this on a flip-phone.
Number 1 will be those people who grab your deck off the table and flip through it and are like, "bro just scoop you're gonna lose"
Also, you idiot you're wrong..... Am I banned yet?
I knew what #1 was going to be because that is my #2. My number 1 is thieves. I have some old MtG cards that a ripped from packs back in the day and are now worth money. I actually HATE that they are worth money because now I'm afraid to play them anywhere. As the value of MtG cards continues to endlessly go up, a more unsavory element has made itself known more and more. I've lost hundreds of dollars in cards from thieves. It's to the point I don't want people to look at my deck because I'm afraid people are going to switch out my cards. I started running purple sleeves so no one would mistake my cards for theirs and now everyone is running purple sleeves. It's getting to be a real problem.
One word: proxies.
OooH! Official MtG proxies made by WotC that look just like the originals! Yeah, that's not going to happen.
+Redfeild RE what would be really cool was just the name and some art for the proxies
use pee yellow sleeves
Redfeild RE you mean... collectors editions of beta?
sooooo basically its be a decent and reasonable person?
I just turned thirteen and I play mtg but I live in a small town so there's no fnm so we made the teachers give us periods every day to play magic
Wheelie bro ! Boi how.
Nice
Wheelie bro ! Hmmmm. This sounds familiar. We had the same but i couldnt go there because i had chinese at exactly the same time.
You might be going to an awful school.
Wish my teachers were that much of a pushover
The Rage Guy, this is my favorite. I have been playing off and on for the last twenty years. Yeah I'm old and do not have as many good cards as you may think. I would always come back and play every once and awhile and if I was lucky enough a casual player like myself would beat one of these too good to lose guys. I have seen a few world class fits which resulted in people storming out of stores. Great video
I remember my first FNM. I managed to win the first two rounds and i was really happy. Third round i ended up against a complete prick. I was still very new, and i had no idea what 99% of the cards did, and i remember this guy would play a card, and then silently start moving the board around, playing tokens, moving counters, and i had no idea what was going on. I lost the first game pretty hard, then the store owner waved me over and literally told me to pay more attention and call the judge if i think he's cheating, because the guy had a history in the store.
So halfway through second game, i notice that he stacks all his land cards on top of each other. He doesn't spread them out, nope. Flat on top of each other. So after he played a couple spells and a creature, i called the judge over. Turns out he was played 8 mana worth of cards, with only 5 lands on the field. Even though it was super minor, the judge DQ'd him because he'd been caught cheating in the exact same way several times (at the same store).
my favorite thing to do is to go to FNM and tell the person im facing i am new so they think its gonna be "so easy to win this game"
and then they get steamrolled
*by a mono blue control deck*
I would say some of my top people I could do without are:
People. That's it. Just most people in general. I grew up playing back in high school (93-96) and after having some of my cards stolen, stopped for a while. I picked up again in the army around 98-2000, and again had cards stolen. That was basically it, I was done playing. Still, I carried my cards with me everywhere I moved, until one day, I decided I just didn't need them anymore. So I sold them and thought the $700 I got for all my cards was a pretty good deal, considering I never even used them. That is, until I started playing again (my gf's son plays, so I picked the game up again after almost 2 decades of silence.) Turns out that those Alpha through Revised cards I had were worth substantially more than $700. Add to that, the knowledge that Wizards is never printing most of them again, so I'd have to shell out $700 for most of them individually if I wanted them again just makes me that much angrier with people. Now when I go to my LGSs, I have to deal with rude people who alienate me because I'm effectively a "new" gamer because I took so long off. During my first ever draft (because we never did that stuff back in the day) the store owner asked if anyone present had never drafted before, and I raised my hand. One guy (a regular at the store unfortunately) looked over and yelled "Are you kidding me!?"
And as far as just general annoyances, I'd have to say people who are slothful, and people who look through open card bins and treat the cards as though no one else is going to think about looking at or buying them.
I would say-
Smelly Obese Neckbeards: clog the tables and walkways, smell, if they fart, clear the room.
The Smart Assed Know it All: They always know the better card, the better deck, the better play. One of their favorite quotes,"Then you would really hate my xxxx deck, it does xxxx by turn x and kills you".
The Alpha of the Betas: The guy that has the girlfriend with him, she isn't there to play so well, mixes Smart Assed Know it All with weird conversations with his girlfriend about their sex life. Forms a dynamic duo with-The Loud Fat Girl or the Whiner.
The Whiner/Witch: This is that girl or woman that plays obnoxious decks, especially in two headed giant or commander. They are fun and smile when everything goes their way, but don't be the guy that sees their growing table threat and starts in on counters/removal or attacks. All of a sudden, you are the bad guy at the table when you hear the cry,"Why are you attacking me!" When you continue to, fits will be throws and names will be called. Also look out for the pouts and rages. Can also be male. See-person that plays a Purphoros deck in commander, has been trolling the table with Norin the Wary, then resolves a Thopter Assembly. Then, Purphoros gets exiled, Thopter Assembly destroyed and about 25+ swing damage coming their way. They have single handedly dropped the table at least 60 total life points in a matter of turns. They then say,"Why are you attacking me? I haven't attacked, I haven't done anything! Stop it!"
The Loud Fat Girl: She is the neckbeard of female gamers and her thunderous laugh is heard all night. May be seen with Alpha of the Betas. She may be jolly, but boy does she break concentration by boisterously laughing at EVERYTHING.
The Poor Sportsman: Can never admit a loss. Throws fits if he loses even one match to someone, or a deck he does not deem worthy, usually a Net-Decker and and a Try-Hard. Also mixes with Smart Assed Know it All. Don't be the guy or gal without a tier one deck that beats this guy. Its always that he was mana screwed or you were lucky or he had a horrible hand(Even if you did have to mulligan).
The Net Decker: Not that it can be bad at all times, but this guy hasn't had an original idea in years. When he says he is thinking about making a new deck, you know its gonna be off of a Pro Tour top eight list. He says he likes playing the decks, when in reality, he is just a vessel for the decks to play themselves. Almost anything that doesn't fit into a net deck category leaves him on slow plays, always checking your cards and generally thrown for a loop. If he loses, he can turn into the Poor Sportsman. 9/10 times, he is also a Try Hard.
The Try Hard: This guy acts like he lives and breaths cardboard. Winning means everything. It's not a game anymore folks. This guy doesn't let a thing slip. But do be aware of this guy's pride getting to him and he turns strait into the Cheater. He will make sure that, no matter who his opponent is, that their deck is smashed. There is nothing casual about the game to him. Usually a control/combo player. Their decks are as painfully annoying as the players-See Ensnaring Bridge Deck.
The Cheater: This is the guy that peaks cards, double draws, free scrys, mana weaves or strait up stacks his deck. He will take advantage of newer players by missing triggers. He will misquote rules. He is the guy that always has his deck ready when you walk up to play and just taps yours and you tap his back. He then goes about getting the perfect mana curve and every answer in his deck. Has many traits of a Smart Assed Know it All and Try Hard. Usually a Twitch as well, as his cheating is his high. He probably gets more off of getting away with a cheat then he does winning.
The Twitch: This guy has had too many Monsters and is doing the hand shuffle/flick...all of the time. He plays with his lands, they are never in the right position. He vibrates his cards when he attacks like they are some kind of live action JRPG. He taps lands, then second guesses, then taps, then takes it back. He looks at the table with great intent-Tapped out, no cards in hand, tapped creature on his side. You play a creature. He stares at it, plays with his lands, shuffles the cards in his hand, straitens his lands again, then says,"Ok, that's fine". As if he had an answer to begin with. Usually a Try Hard.
Well, those are my tops. I can deal with casual beginners and kids(as long as they know what they are doing to some extent). I can deal with people that build good decks. Heck, I can deal with people that Net Deck, but then turn the deck into something of their own. Its all about the attitude(or hygiene).
+pine cone I would say hygiene can be a major issue as well, and it is not any particular size, gender or age group. I have played against players with such bad BO and/or breath that I wondered whether it was actually part of their strategy. I have gone home from a draft and changed my clothes because, an hour later, I still smell like that person! :P
Lol were you super baked when you wrote that? Js b/c whenever iwrite something super super long im usually pretty high.
Nah, just bored.
SIeepwalker1 Its not about having a girlfriend, its when they play and start having loud conversations about how much sex they have, or some other torrid details of their relationship. Especially if they are losing. They assume no one else has a person to go home with, being MTG players, so they throw in something akin to,"Don't care if I lose, I am getting laid tonight" at their opponent. Or the lap sitting, excessive PDA or, dare I say, "helping" with drafting among other things.
Jim Fitzpatrick You are right, sometimes it has nothing to do with how overweight the person is when it comes to hygiene. I could say, embarrassingly enough, that I had bad hygiene as a gamer in high school. I have since learned and became aware of how nasty it makes other people feel.
The thing about the big guys is, you constantly have to move for them, ask them to move, or wait for them to clear out the usually congested aisles of the game store. I guess its a required proximity thing with them. Not saying that all heavyweights are like this at all. Its just that the ones that are obese and smell make the whole experience all the more uncomfortable.
I'm a Johnny , so the biggest reaction you'll get from me is a monotone "well shit".
The only story at my lgs I've heard that's worth telling happened to me: in the Kaledesh pre-release and my opponent casts the 10/10 creature with affinity and I'm at 11 life. He casts sahelis artistry and copies it twice
I lost that game
Another type of player I can't stand: Captain Money.
I'm super new to Magic, as in 2-3 months new. Could you make a guide to a players first FNM? I have yet to attend one.
Love your videos, keep up the great quality!
my friend has beat that land record I mean his deck was a joke deck and it was just hilarious it was lost in the woods just 4 copies of those and 57 lands
justin zarzycki I hope they were all basic forests
Basic lands ftw.
I pulled 16 lands in a row... lets just say I was not gonna win in anyway possible.
I have a deck completely filled with destroy land cards, about 40 of them, it really pisses the opponent off but I always die lol
Lmao this video made me laugh so hard because of your side comments. What's even funnier is I was thinking of the people I play Magic with and I have one friend that is serious 4 of those "people" in one match. He talks about his most amazing games that he came out with a win when there was no hope but somehow he did it, he thinks he's the best, thinks his deck should always win no matter what deck he is playing with, and rages if someone beats him. I witnessed him pout one time and I was holding back my laughter and that was tough for me because he thinks he is a tough guy. Thanks for this video because it made my day!
Bruh you hit me in the feels with the patriots joke :(
When I was going to Friday night magic on a regular basis there were 3 people who I had a problem with. The one guy who just dragged out the game as long as possible. I think he thought that it gave him an advantage as his opponent would get bored and stop paying attention. There was this other guy who would make up rules midgame. When I was a new player I would fall for this a lot, but still end up winning.
And then third guy, he would play mind games. He was good at it too. He would get you to focus on other things or slightly nudge ideas into your mind. I didn't have any personal issue with him or how he plays. I personally think it is a valid part of the game, even though I don't like doing it. I just didn't enjoy playing against him.
I was a judge for Star Wars and Star Trek through Decipher and we were not allowed to play in tournaments we hosted. We were there to keep the tournament going and making fair rulings. Also, I signed up on the Decipher website to be a judge ( circa 2000-2002)
just a note on number four. Being a judge is super easy and requires no test for level zero (which can still judge prereleases and such because of the hard method to get level 1). you have to work so many events a year to keep the cert
Im 14 and I play mtg. I got yelled at after going 3-0 in a draft. The guy told me i was a loser and I only won because I ripped zada's commando. I said i had 6 in the deck and he accused me of cheating so I had to get the people in my pod together and they all said red was open and they remembered seeing that many
+MTGrehab I'd just kick him in the nuts and tell him get go away :P
haha!
+MTGrehab yea cuz zadas cmmando is such a bomb
+AliasSLH you can only have 4 in a constructed deck, but in a limited format like a Booster Draft you can have more then 4, it's just a chance of picking the same copy of that one card from each pack.
12:25 Yea the people who strom out are really annoying i hate playing storm
It's still a deck!
qGAMERACEp I've had some one throw my burn deck
I'd throw them right after that
*storm
I like what you said about the cheaters , I was at a draft with one of the most well known cheaters in the town, and he brought a friend with him, I remember beating his friend, and then as i was going against the cheater in the finals , he asked me if we could split and and not play, which didn’t make any sense because I knew he was the better player and had an even better chance of winning because his deck was probably set up with cards he brought in outside the draft, and I told him I didn’t want to split that I would rather just win, I ended up beating him 2-0, which to me felt like the best game of magic I’ve ever played in my life just because of the fact I beat a well know cheater
i think #7 is really just someone going to their first FNM
No 3: Beating an Abzan guy's 250$ Modern deck in Round 1 with a 50$ Green Stompy (althrough by luck I admit) was the most sweet feeling ever. He was super-salty and left that FNM immediatly.
"Hey, so you guys wanna play a quick game? I only need like 6 more people c'mon just play." I've ran in to this so many times. The worst was at my Oath of the Gatewatch pre-release so there was this one guy he was like in his 30's and he didn't even participate in the pre-relase he literally sat there and waited for people to finish games early. Then he offered trades and offered to play with his modern mill deck.
I had been playing Magic for about a week when I tried my new deck that I had built myself against this pretty experienced guy who sit at my lunch table in 10th grade. The way I had made it was buying about 150- 200 low cost black cards with effective synergy from tcgplayer, but not all of my cards had been delivered yet, and I was eager to try out my creation, so I patched together an aggressive demon type and used it. The game was about 13 to 7 before we had to cut it short because our lunch period was ending (I was winning, and not through just luck). When I was mid sentence, explaining to him the premise of my deck and how it was so effective with minimal setup he cut me off and literally said, "I mean you're so new, but you act like you know what you're talking about.". He pissed me off so much that I threw a water bottle so hard at the back of his head that it busted on impact.
Ophidian Princess I bet
I play at a place where everyone is extremely competitive. I was in a tournament once where five out of eight people were running variations of R/G Energy Aggro because "That's the only thing that's good right now." To make matters worse, many of them are members of a species of asshole that I call "Standard Elitists," which means that once a card rotates out of Standard, it's no longer worth their attention. And they think everyone should follow that ideology. I was in the store once looking for Fate Reforged stuff, and a guy came up to me and said "Fate Reforged isn't Standard. Why do you care about those cards?"
I had another player at my LGS running Naya burn. at the end of the game had literally 13 land in play. he was running multiple fetch lands. and drew nothing but lands while I was at 3. he ended up losing. he was the most respectful person after that. shook my hand and told me good luck in the next round.
One reason to get mad (featured on lrr Friday nights: in command) at 100 life in commander and they wrath your board but your commander is a 10/9 indestructible. You then wrath their board then cast sorrin Markov making their life total 10
Bailey Holmes love LRR too!
I think I may have you beat on the most land drops off the top. At OGW prerelease in the 3rd round I drew no lands at first, mulligan then draw 6 lands 1 creature. Mulligan down to 6... 5 lands and that same creature. Scry 1, land, put on bottom of library. Turn one he plays an ingest creature I draw a land (that's 6, technically 7 with the scry, of the top 8 cards at this moment). Second round he hits me with ingest, exiles my best card in the deck off the top of my library. On my turn I draw another land and pass turn. Round 3, ingests the second best card in my deck then I draw another land. Round 4 same thing again with ingest/land except now I can then play my creature. Round 5 he attacks. I say "if I block and trade with you this next one is gonna be another land, but if I eat the damage I bet you ingest something good again.. Okay I'll play the odds." So I block and we trade creatures. Next turn I draw another land, OF COURSE. After that I drew okay but quickly died
I remember to play with all kind of bad people like the ones described in the video and that is why I stopped playing Magic for years, then I moved to another city and I started to play Magic again a year ago and thanks God the local players are nice, it is impressive how different they are in here, they are very friendly and kind, I love to play here in Guadalajara, México. Have a nice day!
I have a friend that roars when he gets really mad if I start beating him, he just shouts "Oh god no! Why! What are you going to do next!"
I remember when I pulled a Geist of Saint Traft while I was on vacation. Of course, since GoST is absolutely broken, one guy really wanted it saying it was worth 20 €. I politely rejected the offer, I don't trade Mythic Rares unless I happen to have another.
He probably was happy to get his hands on Damnation, though. I got to bring GoST back to Finland as a souvenir, and guy got what he needed for his deck.
Honestly there is quite a lot to keep track of in a game of magic. I wouldn't directly call someone a cheater for missing a thing or two in a game. I remember a year ago at my first FNM I played out a Reclamation Sage for tempo and stated " You don't seem to have any enchantments, so no trigger". I had told him at the start that this is my first FNM and he had an Eidolon of the Great Revel on board. He could have told me that it was an ENCHANTMENT CREATURE. I had no idea there was such things. I feel like it was sort of a dick move.
I have a couple of times pointed out that a creature has trample and such if they make a strange block. I know I don't need to tell them, but I feel like it is just fair game to point it out. One game I would have lethaled my opponent had I not told him that my token had trample. I ended up losing the game, but it was a fun game none the less. I think magic should be played a little like chess. If I'm checking my opponent he can't make a move that leaves him in a checked state. Magic could be a gentleman's sport, but sadly it isn't always.
I played Yugioh and I got talked down to for: My cards being bent and obviously old, No sleeves, No dice and or a coin although I had no cards in my deck that required them It was my first time playing in a official sanctioned thing, and my cards being "Poor man's excuse for a competitive deck." I want to go to FNM but I don't have sleeves for all of my decks or a trade binder and I'm afriad I will be ridiculed for it being my first time.
+eevee440 I don't think that will happen, 95% of magic players I've met have been pretty awesome, hopefully you'll have a similar experience. The no sleeves thing hurts some players but noone should be a jerk about it.
+Dylan Durham I'm still new to Magic and everyone has been really great. A few have helped me build decks, let me borrow dice etc.
This is the first video of yours that I have seen and so far I really like your content. Keep it up.
The one where we teach a golden retriever to play MTG is even better :P
+DesolatorMagic I started around ravnica block too...I just thought it was cool
WHERE CAN I FIND THIS VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kellen liame
ruclips.net/video/JKIvz9X8A00/видео.html :D Nala is the best MTG player in all of history :P
DesolatorMagic
Thank you! love your videos, btw!
Best is the Yugioh rage fest witnessed at a LGS there were fists and cards flying all over the place. If only the cellphone had a camera I would have video'd that classic moment
+Paul Fitzsimmons Yugi-oh players are a different species than human I think :P
I can't believe "people who shower once per year" didn't make the list. Huge problem at my LGS
I just found your channel and subscribed :) you do nice videos, looking forward to see more!
Kind regards from Spain!
i was gonna go "you idiot, you're wrong" jokingly but i like this channel so i'll just say:
you genius, you're right
You forgot to mention the "Casual Elitist". Because you don't play edh "for fun", even though you're clearly playing a game* where the goal of the game is to win. Because winning means you're not having fun.
I was once milled to death
Whadya' mean *"once??"* 0.0
Me to. All tje time with my 50 card deck so... what should i have expected.
Condolences
I love it when people would forgive a missed trigger against/for any player, but comment on it after the game and would then help in making the triggers, like with Zulaport Cutthroat and Nantuko Husk or Kalitria Healer and Captain's Claws even when it hurts them.
We had a cheater at a prerelease at our LGS. I was up against him in the finals. He would draw two cards at a time. On turn three, he had played three lands, two permanents, one instant, had not drawn any additional cards other than the ubiquitous one per turn, and still had nine cards in hand.
In spite of his card advantage, he was still trounced by my Avenger of Zendikar with a Beastmaster Ascension out.
I gotta say that I agree with most of the points raised in this video with the exception of the comments about the net-deckers. I usually love to play against those people because they're usually completely unprepared for the decks I tend to use which take advantage of the fact that I sort of expect certain cards to be used by my opponents. I'd probably have a much lower win percentage without the sheep following their shepherds ;)
#5 it's not against any federal laws to offer any price. You could offer someone 50 cents for jace the mindsculptor lol
the first town/non-offical tournament i went to among friends, i was the try hard. i really wanted to win, and did. but i complained and bitched and moaned very annoyingly at every bad draw and im still embarrassed about it to this day haha. never again.
What about the people who go on for 10 minutes after the game about how you would’ve lost next turn
Those people that put cards without sleeves on the table and then when they try to pick up the card they try to do it by forcing a nail underneath the card. And they try and try and the nail continues to flick of the card and damaging the edge of the card a tiny bit, but you can just FEEL the agony of the card. So painful to watch.
I played against #3, made him rage-drop round 1. It was RTR/Innistrad standard, he had a thragtusk, gravebane zombie, planeswalkers, 4 or 5 color good stuff deck with a mana base more expensive than my entire 75, which was a jeskai humans tempo thing using detain dudes, boros charm, and the wonky innistrad block "if you have humans: do stuff" cards. He raged because his $500+ deck lost to what he felt was a draft deck, he didn't report the outcome of the match, didn't tell the TO he was dropping, just picked up his deck and stormed off,. leaving his dice
I'm defo a nr 7!! And what about the guy who shows up at FMN and acts like he knows a lot, while he's only been playing for 2 and a half years? Those people are réally annoying!
Today is going to be my first day going to a actual game store to play. I got into magic at a sleep away camp.
I just moved to a new town and went to an FNM. Every player was running an alternative of W/U Flash I did not get to play Magic at my first FNM in this town. They where all nice though about countering every spell I casted post turn 3. That one night made me support the Reflector Mage ban
Cheaters definitely are the worse... I mean I've cheated while playing games, not necessarily in magic, but typically when I feel I'm doing really well, or when my opponent looks to be not having any fun, I'll start cheating so that the game evens out, and winning a close game is always more fun than blowing someone out of the water.
I'm a magician, or if I'm feeling really pretentious, a sleight of hand artist.
I've never cheated at fnm. In very casual games with friends, when I lost the game so bad, I'm a dead man walking, I'll cheat to do something silly.
Like, how did I get all these firebolts in my hand while playing mono blue. Or suddenly a platinum angel is on the field. It always gets a laugh and then I scoop.
You smart man you're right! I can't make it to fmn at my lgs for reasons but man you make it sound like nerd heaven. That temptation of nerdvana xD
You forgot the "JUUUDGE!" guy, who nitpicks on every sigle move you make and calls you a cheater for making honest mistakes.
Funny and great content brotha. Keep on keeping with the videos.
One person tried to cheat a game with me and still lost. The person then proceeded to yell about how they cheated and how I must have cheated harder to win. Long story short, I've never seen them play MTG again.
DesolatorMagic, I have a dilemma. I cheated at two prerelease events. Once I allowed my opponent to miscount his damage he was swinging in with, and then subtracted the amount I could block from that total instead of adding up the total hitting me, and once I cast a spell without enough green sources. I didn't plan on doing these, I was just upset that I was going to have a below average record and saw these things happen. I want to make this right, and was going to offer the people that I cheated way more than the booster pack they didn't get, but I really worry about what will happen if it comes out. Obviously not cheating in the first place is the best way to avoid this, but that is no longer an option. I've tried seeing what other people have done in my situation but I have found nothing about anybody cheating and not getting caught and then wanting to make it right.
Lmao. I love the warning you gave before number 0
You forgot the people who when you're down on life and have a worse board state and its game 3 and they're like just give me the win there's no way. Have had this happen many times. But good list lol I have seen all of these people.
You could add people that forgets their triggers each turn. Its annoying as hell to see someone tap a vigilance creature, or forget to draw a card from an enchantment if it happens multiple times. I don't have a problem with it if it happens once or twice in a game, but when you have to babysit your opponent. That's when the game becomes more of a choir than fun.
This Video reminds me of Situation we had at our local Gaming Store about nearly 20 years ago. The Store owner wanted to do some sort of magic tournament but did not have a clue about the rules. So he asked one of the local players to make the rules for the tournament. The guy was also participating and we just assumed he used the standard rules but no he did not. He just changed restricted lists to fit his Deck. He had like four sol Rings in his Deck which were not restricted for this tournament (but only he knew). That guy got in first place (surprise surprise).
Man for me one of the worst things are the people who smell like decayed road kill stuffed up the ass of a landfill. One time I went to an fnm when I played (recently like dragons of tarkir) there was this guy like almost twice my size, I'm a hefty dude at like 250lbs, who apparently didn't shower and, dear god.... the stench of rotted skunk's carcass... I almost died.
At 0, I don't cheat, but will often ask how much the total amount of damage I take or will ask multiple times if there is a no draw card or some other special condition to read the card again. On the other hand, the most I've noticed people cheat with is drawing miracles, shuffling their hand, then playing it 2 turns later for its miracle cost, can't really prove it, but....
I play mtg at lunch with a group of 5 and one person in that group never stops talking, even during other people's turns.
I really like these kinds of videos because I'm new and I don't know much of the unspoken rules of fnm
Worst imo are the try hards. Theres a group that regularly plays edh near me that had to ban player for being to aggressive. He ran a mono green which in edh grows out of control very quickly, so people inevitably end up focusing on him. Problem is if you dared to attack him he would get visibly angry. Its like he expected everyone to just leave him alone despite the fact that he was by far the biggest threat on the field. One night some kid took him out with a niv mizzet/curiosity combo. He did not like such a low cost combo beating his $400 try hard deck and started yelling at the poor kid who was around 13 years old. Full grown man yelled at a kid until he was crying over a card game. He was banned from the store after that.
I forgot my deck at a standard tournament and people were more than willing to let me use their extra standard decks; everyone offered and was super nice. Nobody minded
being number three here. but i was 3-0 facing off for the win. i'm playing r/g eldrazi ramp and he's playing thopter dragons. so we get to game three where he sideboards in two crumble to dusts, a very good card against my deck. game three goes like this, he plays pia and kiran getting the thopters and is pinging me for little by little every turn. i'm a turn away from getting out a world breaker when he crumble to dusts my two cinder glades on the field. the very next turn, he rips the second crumble off the top of his deck and targets the two shrine to the forsaken gods I have. I was so god damn pissed. I ended up getting a thought-knot seer and a dragonlord ojutai out of my packs. just remember guys, magic is a completely fair and skill based game.
I was at GP Melbourne which was modern last weekend and I was playing in a grinder on the Friday and I played against probably the most salty player I had ever met. And I had never seen someone so angry
I was playing mono white soul sisters and he was playing U/W Eldrazi and after a long grind between him blinking his drowner of hope giving me three life a turn and making my Pridemates bigger I won game one and he was already pretty salty he kept saying "if I drew (blank) I would've won" so we go to game two which I lost and those two games took the whole 50mins as well as turn zero. So we were at 1-1 and we had to ask a judge what was to happen and it turned out the game was to go to sudden death which meant that the first change in life dictated the win or loss. Up resulting in a win and down resulting a loss. Soul sisters is designed to go up in life because of soul warden and other similar effects
Avacyn restored I pulled over 11 lands of the top of my deck.
I was playing a mono green deck. With some mythic monsters and other big guy's.
I had him on the ropes and then 11 lands..... I still won because I bluffed, he figured I had to have something in my hand and not 7 lands.
Fun times. won the draft as well.
Some guy at FNM was playing me with a 400+ dollar Bant Company Control deck, and I had a 25 dollar red burn deck.
The guy struggled early game with his deck, while mine was great. I ended up sweeping him becasue I took him out turn 5 or so. I kid you not he took my deck, threw it against the wall, then kicked a bookshelf on his storm out of the place, spilling games and dice everywhere. Everyone at my LGS now calls him "Rage Rick" because his mane was Rick and he went full rage monster. We never saw him again. Seriously dude, I got lucky and beat you before you could respond to red burn. Rage sucks.
Man you better find him and bring him back in your Commander team, no one will mess with you guys
Don't try hard till you're already winning? Seems legit. :P
+Yosef Estill I meant until you have a flawless winning record going into round 4 at FNM. Then try hard(er).
+DesolatorMagic I agree with your list, just not the order. I have not seen any cheaters caught the places I have played, but their have been two times I thought the people did. Both times people worked at the shop and it was a pre-release. They were different places. The first guy had 2 rare cards of the exact same in his deck. I did defeat him. The second guy had 5 amazing rare cards in his deck and we only used the packs from a box. This was the following week also. His deck was to good, I will admit my deck stunk. Normally I do well very well winning packs. So I have an idea of the decks. He also was a judge.
+DesolatorMagic im going through a tough time, my mother was diagnosed with two cancerous tumors and is going through chemio, but you keep me going because of your happy attitude, so thank you.
I once traded a return to ravnica shockland for a guildgate... and didn't know i had been completely hosed until i told someone else at my LGS about it.
there was this guy at FNM at my LGS who would draw two cards each turn and no one would catch it until AFTER he LOST (😂) and people would look at his loosing board state and seeing that no one played card draw spells and then would WATCH him draw two cards. The judge then threw him out and gave his unfortunate opponent the guy's buy in plus an automatic round win in the tournament. 👌
U/r thopters
Pia and Kin Nalaar 4
Thopter Engineer 4
Whirler Rouge 3
Chief of the Foundry 3
Vile Agregate 3
Hangar back Walker 4
Thopters Spy Network 3
Ensoul Artifact 4
Shrapnel Blast 4
Ghost fireblade 3
Fiery Impulse 3
Dark steel Citadel 4
Temple of Ephiny 3
Mountain 8
Island 7
I have a 45 minute commute to my job and I go right after work. After working 10 hours a day for an entire week and driving an hour and half minimum every day I forget things every now and then. Sorry I forgot my dice.
I had a kid cheat against me on my first FNM after coming back from a long hiatus. I was pretty pissed.
I just want people down at FNM.
I didn't know people who enjoyed unorthodox hobbies were so anti social.
I can't stand super serious people at my small local store tournaments. Most of the tournaments only have about 6-10 people. 15 maybe on Friday nights. Prize pool is only like 15-25$ for first place. I don't understand. I had a guy punch the table over me playing grim flayer without delirium but not be mad about my 6/6 Rhonas or 7/7 Servant of the Conduit. I've had people try to cheat me out of a wins as well when I was a new player and winning and it made me want to just stop playing at that store.
a lot of the people i usually hate to deal with are the guys who want the hottest rares you have for one of their jank rares that have no place in the meta and the only reason you want it was for a homebrew standard or commander deck.
also agree with hating the guys who believe the only way you can win is with a 500+ dollar net deck with at least two Jaces in it.
"you idiot ur wrong 13:55" sarcastic comments incoming :P
Being a young player, one that always annoys me is the guys that see me as free xp, and then get mad if I beat them.
702.16e. Any damage that would be dealt by sources that have the stated quality to a permanent or player with protection is prevented.
YES! I 100% agree! especially the part about the new England patriots cause I am a Seahawks fan so LOL. that had nothing to do with mtg but LOL I hate cheaters. It is EXACTLY like stealing. Also you said you read our comments, so I wanted to tell you that I thought it would be cool if you also did some videos like the series "spellslingers" on youtube but hey it's your channel and you do what you want with it.
My judge is lit, we love it when he plays
one of my friend legitimately shuffled their deck 30+times then I shuffled it like 10 Times it was casual so we weren't going to cheat or anything but she legitimately drew a full hand of land and then for the rest of the game pulled all the rest of her land which it was about 27 in total. how all her land got there we have no idea but it was there, all there on top like wtf lol
Oof, I might be a try hard. I think too slowly, I’m too nervous to joke, and I’m not confidant in my decisions so I’m constantly second guessing my choices.
11. Stinky players, my local shop won't even let you play if you have a bad odor.
Thanks for the great videos! I'm a noob at magic and appreciate the info and advice. Sad though that people throw people's decks and steal them. That was actually the first thing I was warned about if I get into it.