Matchplay: Female vs Male Pro (Off the Same Tees)
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I will say it is not fair since Gen said "That's not fair." on the first tee! :)
Hehehe 😄
I Can't believe how much I was clapping and cheering when you drained those putts to stay at A/S! 😄
Hahaha thank you!! 🥰
I loved watching this match. Showing what is possible with less length was a huge encouragement to me. So happy to see the smiles and cheerful attitude that brought me to this channel are still in full swing.
Aw I love that!! 🥰
From the same tees! I can't wait to watch this! With the back tees closed, and the distance advantage negated, it is hard to say who will win. Let's go Genevieve!!!!
Hope it made it interesting! ☺️
Gen I think his distance is a huge advantage, that being said you have held your own up to here. One other thing Gen the commentary is fantastic I think you may have another career doing that after golf.
For sure! I had to rely on my short game for this one 😅
He didn't really have any advantage. Gen's short game was better. People develop different skills to compensate. For example partially sighted people often have excellent hearing.
I often see these golf channels eg The one with Claire and Paris golfaholics where the ladies keep on claiming advantage of forward tees. They then drive it past the guys and use their excellent short games to win the matches easily. It's tantamount to cheating. We don't let the guys putt to larger holes because their putting and chipping is poorer for example.
Both sexes should play off the same tees.
@@PreservationEnthusiast no they shouldn’t. Men have a bigger advantage of something women can’t control,bring strength.everyone can have a good short game.that isn’t an excuse
@@markvandermerwe4676 Theoretically everyone can have a good short game, but women develop it better because they don't hit so far.
There are women long hitters cheating by using the shorter tees and men short hitters disadvantaged because they have to use the back tees.
Choo is really good! I could actually feel the pressure. Boy. That’ll tighten up your game. It was fun to watch
Pressure is fun! 😬😬
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I find matchplay far more fun than stroke play. In matchplay, if you have a bad hole, and you´re not going to halve the hole, you can just pick up and get your head back together. Then come back on the next hole. In stoke play, you have to hole out even when you´re into double figures, and then there´s no way you´re going to come back from that. Great stuff Gen, you definitely hold your own here; would be interesting for the old duffers who think ladies should play from the forward tees at all times to see this :)
Love watching matchplay Gen. Everyone brings particular strengths and weaknesses to the game so it's fascinating to see how a match seesaw from one to the other shot by shot. The 6th is a perfect case in point .... Choo had you on that hole, until he hit into the bunker and you had wedge that you knew you could hit close. Have to say, watching you stripe driver off the tee is some kind of special.
Yes for sure! Hehe thanks, its pretty fun to do too, I must say 😄😄
This is as fair as it gets - each player is playing the same holes at the same distances to the same pin location. Whether you win or lose is solely decided on how well you play.
I like it 👍
Loved your competitive nature mixed with great humour Gen. I enjoyed it. Distance is not everything. Smart, accurate play that suits your game is better.
Haha thanks Anthony!! Yes, but distance does help 😜
I went to a golf school with Tom Kite one time. He explained that he could not hit the ball far and would never be able to keep up with the big boys on driving. his advantage was that "once I am within 100 yards, I'm deadly". While long drives can be a bit of an advantage, chipping and putting is where you win or lose.
Great video. It was entertaining and fun watching two golf stars go head to head. Personally, match play is more relaxed since you can always recover from losing a hole. I got $20 bucks on you.
Gen: For the 6 holes shown in the match his length only factored in on the Par 5 and the Par 3. However, I was more surprised with the difference in wedge game from inside 100yds. I'm not sure if his wedge game is not as good as it should be or your wedge game is off the charts good. From inside 100yds, we're routinely used to you getting it inside 20 ft every time. I was quite surprised at how often he missed the green with wedges. In the long run at 6200 yds, he should have the advantage because on the Par 4s, he should be able to hit more fairways and be in better position using his 2I than you will using your driver. And on the Par 3's, he'll be approaching with shorter irons and he'll be able to reach the Par 5's.
But it was a great match and I'm dying to see the rest of the holes. When you talk about the match play, how did having to make the 4 footer for birdie compare to shots you've had to hit at either Q-school or tournaments?
Gen is the best!!! Always a pleasure to watch your channel :)
Thank you!! Glad you enjoy it 😊😊😊
Gen, this match was great. Yes, his distance is a huge advantage but, like you said, he still need to hit closer to the pin and made the putt. Gen, great shots on that four footer birdie and that bunker saved.. those were under pressure magic.. real fun to watch..
Thanks Gen, that was as much fun to watch as watching you with your father.
Glad you enjoyed it!!☺️
I really appreciated that. Recently, I just started teaching 2 young lads how to play this fabulous game, and I will show them this video to help them understand how to address a shot. Gen's setup is perfect and a number of the camera shots are excellent for showing these kids how to address the ball. Thanks so much! 👍
Just like you say Gen... Match play (like Stableford) can equalize a "better" golfer, or in your case a more powerful golfer by the way you strategize your way around the golf course. Choo can hit tee shots farther but will have longer approach shots on par 5's. Your approach shots Gen, are SO much more accurate. You have a way of flipping the pressure back on Choo!! So much fun to see. Still rooting for you to get your LET card and finally make the LPGA... LET'S GOOOOO!!!!
G! Guuurrl you have a beautiful and athletic swing! Great tempo, balance, positioning, flexibility, and power. Then Choo hit. I was mind blown how far and accurately he hits. Is it a fair match? Absolutely, in Match Play format. It’s a tough match though. Good luck to you both. And absolutely I subscribed. I subscribed to your swing. 🤣
Thanks for subscribing!! ☺️☺️
Gen, you've shown that you don't have to be intimidated by the long hitter and can play your own game. Matchplay vs strokeplay: You can be comfortably on the green in regulation and then your opponent chips in from off the green for a birdie. (The hole is never over until it's over!) If you need to hole that putt for a half, you have to go for it - it does not matter whether you lose the hole by 1 or several shots. But in strokeplay, those several shots matter.
It is a fair match from the point of view that all of the conditions are equal for everybody. Sure he hits the ball longer and that is an advantage in most golfing situations but in others it can be a disadvantage. He can only play his game and you can only play yours. We all come in different shapes, sizes, ages etc. As you said yourself you were able to attack the pin with a wedge and he was using a four iron and ended up in the sand. It isn't that his length was a disadvantage per se (he could have laid up also) but it did encourage him to try and pull off a much harder shot. This was very entertaining as you are both very good shot makers. Good job!!!
Distance is always an advantage, he can afford a bad shot or two, you can not. This was still a great video, I can't wait to see part two. Not having great distance myself, accuracy and good putting still allow me at 64 to play off the blue tees. You inspire and entertain us, thank you.
You played super solid! In spite of his extra length, it sure looks fair.
Thank you! 😊😊
Unfair... Gen should have given Choo strokes. 🤣🤣🤣
Hi Gen, Thanks for another enjoyable video. Distance is a big advantage. But I think this comes down to a putting contest. And I would never bet against you in a putting contest. Looking forward to part two.
I think it will come down who has the best approach shots!! Of course on some holes his distance advantage will come into play!! Great comparison video!! And nice golf from you two!!
Playing a 6200 yard course cuts his advantage down quite a bit, so I think this match will ultimately come down to who has the better short game...and ill take you Gen against just about anybody in that category!
True! 6600 and above i'm at a huge disadvantage 😂
I think match play is mentally harder and you have to have greater focus on each shot especially around the green. For me I tend to get more nervous in match play.
I really like this match as a showcase of how to approach golf in different ways. Attacking in different ways.
NOT FAIR!!! He was definitely outmatched... lol. Nice job though. You almost went 1 up on that last putt....
Great match. Love the different skill sets and your subtle mind game tactics. 😜
I mean, that's what's matchplay is all about am I right 😉
@@GenevieveLingGolf best part of the game. I play against an 82 year old whom is a master at it.😃
Nice to listen to your comments for mental and course management. Awesome video. Thanks
this is what i told you you should do.hard matches.keep you sharp for the tour.good luck
Unfortunately, don't always have a "sparring buddy" to go up against, so I definitely take advantage of it when I do 😊
@@GenevieveLingGolf thanks for the reply.looks like your putting like your old self again.keep the height of your shoulders level.don't get tall.good luck .trust me your only as good as you think you are.that is my mind set.ALWAYS
Interesting enough is Jon Rahm has talked about how we should have a few dual events with the men's and women's tour recently. I think that is a great idea, but the biggest obstacle is figuring out the tees. My gut says allow team events, like two player teams which exists at the Zurich on the PGA, and have the women and men tee off what their tour averages. Then go from there with alternate shots or play best ball.
Also the one downside with the men side is it's very distance heavy, and too many amateurs try to smash it like Bryson without any control or finesse like a pro. I try to pay more attention to the women's side when it comes to the swing since it is more fundamental over unique stances to add distance. I rather be more consistent at a shorter distance and go from there by slowly adding yards within my abilities. Strategy and short-game can easily shave off strokes for most amateurs without a steep learning curve like adding distance without losing control.
Anyway, good video, and I like your strategic approach since it makes me think more as a golfer with how to approach shots and a course.
This was one of your best videos ever. Absolutely riveting. Please do this again. Yes it's a fair match. He's a terrific golfer but so are you.
Good test and preparation. Love the competition.
Nothing beats a good, competitive round 😊😊
Gen. It's always good to challenge ourselves . Nice play
He's going to win more often then not. Even if you have the same distances in he's going to be hitting shorter clubs. But always rooting for The Gen😁
I agree with you, but I will probably get him on days where he can't putt (and lets be honest, we all have those days) 😉
With the distance G gives up it will always be a significant disadvantage in the long run, however this is only one match so you can still secure the 'W'. 😁
Very impressive clutch putting by both players. That's why you are the pros.
Great to watch. I might share this video on our web page for our members to see.
I don’t know if you play match play with male professionals very often or not, but I think its a good thing for your upcoming LET practice.
Nelly Corda can smash some impressive drives but if you get used to playing against that sort of distance, so long as it doesn’t bother, you then that can only be a good thing and I’d not considered your killer short game in the previous post, my bad.
That and as others point out, your commentary is excellent, I’ve learnt a lot since following you. I hope that your upcoming tournaments work to your advantage.
I think you should continue playing against people who have an advantage on you or who are better than you. If you show up to a tourney after competing vs male pros, you will have the edge. In this match, I don't think the advantage he has is as impactful on the blue tees, so I'm interested in getting to a course where the black tees are available. Great match so far, keep up the smooth well managed play, Gen!
Wow! Really fun to watch this video. Just amazing shots by both of you. Especially getting out of trouble, and making clutch putts. And the sound of your tee shots …music to my ears!!
Medal play and match play are different. In a medal-play tournament, you are playing against the field whereas in match-play, you are playing only your current opponent. In medal play, a bogey puts you a stroke back against the field for the whole tournament whereas in match play, a lost hole only hurts you in the current match. Different mindsets are required. (But you know all this already.)
My money is on Gen. Always. #ComeonGen
Hehe thank you 🥰
You played a great six hole match! Strategies are definitely different with match play! Very impressed! Awesome!
You’re a professional golfer too! Represent 🤗
Great golf by both of you 🙂 love the way you play Gen always with a smile ☺️
Thanks John!! 😊😊
Great match. Lovely swing. Always enjoy watching you play.
Glad you enjoyed it!! 😊😊
I would say it’s fair just by looking at the numbers of you being all square for six holes. It’s a nice example of how there are many right ways of playing the game.
I think your course management and techniques could make this close, but, his length off the tee and being able to shorten the course dramatically, will probably seal the match in his favor. Now, let's find out!!
Thanks for this video, I thought that the par 5 would bring you undone but you proved me wrong. In the match play that I have played one is not allowed to putt out. It is always the furtherest from the hole who has the next putt, even if you have just putted.
I really enjoyed this match. I watch the entire thing. Both of you are very good and it was very competitive. Thanks for the show and good luck in your future.
Very enjoyable video! It seemed like a slight advantage to Choo, but i loved your mental attitude and your ability to "just play your own" game and stay right with him every step of the way! GL you are awesome! :)
Fun to watch and very good course management! Just like Cam Smith showed us this weekend in the Players championship putting and short game can and often do make the difference. Well done!
I play in a 9-hole match play league on Thursdays, but I really don’t use any different strategy. It’s a friendly flight (the other nine opponents are friends). So, I try to shoot the lowest score I can on every hole and let the match play out.
Probably NOT the best strategy for match play. But I find if I play to my opponent on every hole, I feel too much pressure and inevitably make an unforced error.
I would really like a quick primer on match play; tips & tricks to play more strategically.
As always, keep up the good work 👍🏻 #TeamGen
Great video Gen. I think at the end of the day it comes down to course management. Really interesting match
Very cool video Gen! Seems like it was an exciting match. I think that the distance advantage for Choo is definitely there and a factor but it's not sealing the deal. Your play perfectly showed that it's an open match as long as you play your own game, manage it well and bring your a game around and on the green. And as it goes for every matchplay game, capitalizing on chances is huge
Genevieve you look great and your golf is fabulous ! Greetings from New Zealand.
Ball coming in for Birdie ... "OH NO!! ..."
What happened to the "gentleman" in golf, huh Gen? lolol
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Gen, great Match. I think, off the cuff, it ought to be unfair, as you had the reach disadvantage. However, your skill has saved you and therefore I feel like you really won the front 9.
I saw you featured in a swing video described as Vietnamese women golfers. You were first up.
One of the things I love about golf is that with different tees and handicaps, men can play with women and it's a fair competition.
I’ll take closer to the green 99% of the time opposed to leaving myself a distance I like. The analytics don’t lie. The closer to the pin the less strokes to get it in the hole.
Great match and great playing Gen! And of course it wasn't fair!
Great duel!! Gooooo Gen!!🤩
Wow, stumbled on this video and enjoyed watching both of you hit the ball!
Great video. Enjoyed it. But I honestly don't think it is fair. But it also depends on each other's skill level (even if both are pros). Enjoyed the video.
"Choose the one", I thought it was some kind of in-joke right there at the start!
So potential is you have more local course knowledge. He has the ability to use more controllable clubs off the tee and still get to same distance as you on most holes but should be more accurate. Big advantage for him is on Par 5 holes if he can get on the green in 2. In a Match Play format some of the built in advantages of distance is negated.
Swing thought for you Genevieve : left arm leads. .. reduce right hand dominance. You are overpowering your swing. Too many pulls left on 1st 3 holes. Better after hole 4.
You make very good videos with no nonsense! Love them.
This is so amazing. You're amazing. Learning a lot by watching your videos, please keep making them.
Great golf, love the birds. Ever notice how calling birds enhances golf videos and broadcast, l love it.
OK, I'm hooked but this just shows me again that distance is great but, the money is won on the short game.
Fair match….yes I wld think so, he has the length, u hv the course knowledge. Nail biting finish. Now looking forward to Part 2 & 3.😛
match play is definitely more fun. you can take greater risks in your shots and the worst is you'll lose the hole. in stroke play for example you may end up with a double bogey and he might birdie, giving him a 3 shot advantage on just a single hole.
Geez Gen your really good. I’d say match play is tremendously less stressful because you can shoot an 8 on a hole and your opponent shots a 3. Your only down one. That’s correct isn’t it?
yes
Thanks for showing distance to the hole in yards and metres :)
I enjoyed how the balls just rocket of both your and his clubs. Not fair in terms of distance. Your approaching with long irons and he is using short irons.
Thanks Gen it was entertaining but not fair you both teeing from same tee !
Depending on the male player’s accuracy, distance can make a big big difference. But golf is a sport of many variables and skills; short game and good green reading won’t matter between genders. So really the only slight disadvantage is in distance and power shots, imo
Match play, for me, is definitely different. I had to become mentally tougher but generally speaking i have an advantage over most just because of how my game sets up.
The better the golfer the more advantage i think i have and believing that makes me even better if that makes any sense.
Still i find it quite mentally exhausting and seldom play it now.
What a nice guy to help you out by playing a competitive round. Do it more often. You are very very close i think
This was really fun to watch and you both really played well. I think there is less pressure in Match play because in Stroke play one bad blowup hole and it's pretty much over. It's harder to make up 3 shots than one lost hole. My 2 cents : )
My moneys on my girl Gen all DAY!!!!
Amazing golf swing, swing improvement & consistency is apparent 👍👍👍
Gen I say it’s fair because you are a badass golfer and when you are on your game you would be tough to beat for a lot of people. Plus I think you are a more skilled golfer than him.
If I had a swing like G I would be a happy camper!
Nice par on 5 Jen!
Hi Gen, nice vid, as usual :-) Given the difference in distance, and assuming a comparable skill level, I think statistically, the longer distance should yield higher results in the long run, because the longer distances will more often end up closer to or on the greens, and thus the chances of a 1st putt dropping should increase. So, I think mainly on par 4 and 5 there should be a statistical advantage for the longer distances, again, given similar skill levels. Anyway, it doesn't matter for this match, because you are playing well!
Womens tees should be MILES ahead of where they usually are. The idea is not to even up the drives, but to give both the chance to go in with, say, a seven iron...
I was never better than a bogey golfer at my best. But to me, the short game is different. Shooting for score (medal play) you don't want to 'blow up' on a hole, because you can't get those strokes back. Match play, you can 'win' with a bogey, or lose with a par. Each of you approaches the pin partly based on what the opponent does! Which makes each hole a game unto itself. And fun!
This was very enjoyable to watch.
Go get'em Genevieve!!!! GOB!!!
Great match...I wouldn't bet against either one of you!
Amazing co-ed match!! You guys look good together too. 😅
Gen, you are a warrior! Great video 👍
Distance advantage depends on the course layout really. My home course is short like 6300 yards but it's narrow, hilly and a lot of carry for drives and approaches. You don't really need driver on a lot of holes because of the danger and force lay ups on par 5's if you don't hit it perfect. I can just use a 200/220 ish club because driver will bring danger into play on most holes.
you should have come out to Australia where we are having a lot of mixed events going on at the moment called tps events. good prize money and the girls have done well