Videos are getting better and better. Testing and data are always more useful than guessing. Really good insights. Thank you for the best nitro related videos out there.
Loveeeee these vids!! Its going to be a bit until I get my dyno ...life got in the way lol. I have the RTX backplate and I tested it on my Reds 723 Part set but it in a Picco GT1 Team case and crank ...freaking monster of an engine I may add. I felt the same my man..Air Boost 100%. For the Reds /Picco GT hybrid it went together seamless , they are both built in the same factory after all, I shimmed the sleeve up .30(+.10 over the new stroke ) and I'm currently at .67mm clearance, once its broken in I'll time it and cut it to GT'esq specs and tighten the squish but man is it crazy . The displacement is like a .24.5 (16.8x17.3). I ran the Reds gen 3 SV part set in the same case and crank and that jammed and it wasn't modified so I figured go all out and try w the 723 part set that I had laying around . The Carb is off the Picco R2 3518 9 port since its a 9mm carby, the GT1 carby is 8mm if I recall. Long story short Nitro Rules and that RTX backplate is now hanging from my rear view mirror in my car lol. Catch you next video brother.
Thanks bro. Shit happens in life. It is what it is. I would be totally annoyed with that dangling on my rear view mirror lol Think i will give it to a rival who runs Reds and hope he installs it lol See you on the next one brother 👊
Another great vid bro! I agree with you. The RTX backplate is great marketing. My thoughts is if a pull start which uses a oneway bearing robs an engine of power, the RTX would have a similar problem due to bearings and rotating parts. Only difference is the RTX is not directly connected to the crank as most pullstarts. Anyways great to see you put the theory to the test with data.💯👊😎
Thanks bro. Yeah, genius idea but claim a drastic reduction in friction is just excellent marketing. Pull start is another story. Great idea to put that to the test some day. Facts don't lie. Appreciate the comment and you watching 👊
Great video Kings, this was a lot of work.. swapping, tuning, testing, edditing.. very interesting. Your conclusion is the same as our expectations when we first talk about that spinning backplate a while ago, no surprise there, just a nice marketing gadget. Good to see you back at the track
Thanks buddy. It was indeed quite some work and it's exactly like we thought. Genius idea, excellent marketing. To bad there isn't one advantage in using this backplate. Actually only disadvantages
Thank you very much. I expected this was more marketing. The idea is really genius though. To bad there is not one advantage when using this backplate. Appreciate the comment and you watching.
@@kings-racing Anytime! Also seems the fuel test was good in the sense that you could get the same performance on the dyno, as you could with the rtx plate vs the air boost one, but on track was another matter.
Exactly. Track tune and dyno tune are two different things. The track tune was also to lean on the highspeed on the dyno. Specially for a 6 second pull.
@@kings-racing According to my research, in air cooled 2 stroke engines we are limited by cooling when tuning for top performance, water cooled less so. So the oil/oils in the fuel are as important as the fuel itself. Back plates, whatever guides the mix to the cylinder keeping it's momentum is the best.
@@kings-racing hell ya loved that back plate testing your the man the top dog in my book in the nitro world thats for sure keep up the great work brother
rotating mass is out of the equation. The crank is not attached to the backplate. On a regular backplate are some marks of the conrod. So theoretically there is friction, although it's very minute. The idea is to reduce friction because the plate will rotated when the conrod is hitting the backplate. I don't think this backplate is spinning much tbh. Also the marks on a regular backplate are in a oval shape. Not round. So the reduction of friction theoretically is probably very very minimal. It sure doesn't out way the advantages of a airboost backplate. Appreciate the comment and you watching.
Did you 3d print the wing? My buddy made me one but with a brittle resin. I’d love to buy him a proper resin that would flex if anyone knows what I should get. That sucker rips man 🤘🏻
Yes, i have a regular Reds backplate and wanted to test that aswell. Unfortunately i forgot to bring it with me. Had the wrong package with another airboost backplate. I will need test it another time.
Man, anyone else watching those dyno pulls and just craving tuning the LSN and idle gap? Killing that motor not pulling down to idle and still revving like that. Idle gap is too big and low speed is FAT.
@@kings-racingbut the LSN and idle were too fat and too high on the track as well, it was high idling and loading up if allowed to idle longer than a few seconds. The dyno pulls only made it more apparent. Surprised you haven't soft-seized a PS running like that.
@@alexanderrichards895the high reving you are referring to after the pull is caused by a too lean HSN on a 6 second pull. The idle gap was at 0,5mm with both backplates. Definitely not to big. I did have to change the tune when switching backplates. On the rtx it needed a richer low and leaner high in order to run properly and drop back to idle. I can agree that setting was fat on the low, ( specially compared to the airboost backplate), but that has nothing to do with the reving you are referring to.
hoi woow je videos zijn beter geworden!!! jij hebt veel ervaaring met nitro, daarom mijn vraag na mijn verhaal, ik heb vanmiddag met 20c mijn nieuwe OS MAX .21 geprobeerd te starten, met een starterbox, helaas is dat na 5 maal niet gelukt, 5 maal de zuiger vast, en met een schroeven draaier weer voorzichtig los gemaakt, nu denk ik dat me starter box niet goed genoeg is opgeladen hij ook niet de OS MAX verder kon draaien, het is natuurlijk moeilijk op afstand wat er is, enkel ik heb ook zo een engine heater en temp gun, en ik kreeg met de engine heater met een gel bat 12v 5ah geladen niet warmer dan 70c, is het better een headgun te gebruiken, 70c is niet zo warm, ik denk als ik die twee dingen, in orde heb, een heatgun, en me starterbox battery geladen zijn het moet lukken, zouw ik meschien iets veel airfilter olie op gedaan hebben, zit daar wijnig marge tussen, of gebeurt dat niet zo makelijk? heb je nog tips om het starten, indraaien te laate lukken graag?, ga zo door met videos goed werk!!!
Hoi, 70C is idd te weinig. Bij een nieuwe motor is de zuiger erg strak. Vandaar dat ie vast loopt en inrijden heel belangrijk is. Bij een eerste start verwarm ik de motor tot 130C. Daar heb je zeker een heatgun voor nodig. Als ie eenmaal loopt de temperatuur tussen 110 en 120C houden. Zeker niet lager dan 100C. Je zult dus tijdens de break in de motor moeten verwarmen aangezien de rijke afstelling veel koelt.. Je zou bv de engine heater op de koelkop kunnen laten zitten tijdens de break in zodat er genoeg warmte in blijft. 1 of 2 tankjes laten idle'n, daarna rustig rondjes rijden met een rijke afstelling. Bij tank 8 kun je de motor al iets indraaien na elk tankje. Na ongeveer 12 tankjes kun je de motor tunen en rijden. Zeker nog niet te arm zetten. Na 1,5 / 2L is de motor goed ingelopen. Succes en veel plezier met je nieuwe motor.
@@kings-racing Dank je wel man!!! super dikke uitleg daar heb ik zeker wat aan!!!, gelukkig is de motor nog heel! hoop ik 😚, ik ga voor volgende poging de os max .21 warme met een heatgun, die engine heaters worden dus niet zo warm, en dan idd paar tankje's inloopen, en de temp ik dacht niet onder de 200c en niet boven 220,en tussen 110c tot 120c kan mischien ook? dan ga ik de 12v gel bat retouren, ik gebruik de engine heater enkel er over om de warmte daar te houden, zet hem niet aan dat heeft niet veel zin dacht ik? nogmaals dank!!!
Kings the mythbuster.
Good job!
Thanks buddy 👊 Facts don't lie
Videos are getting better and better. Testing and data are always more useful than guessing. Really good insights. Thank you for the best nitro related videos out there.
Thank you very much for the kind words. Agree, facts don't lie.
Appreciate the comment and you watching.
Loveeeee these vids!! Its going to be a bit until I get my dyno ...life got in the way lol. I have the RTX backplate and I tested it on my Reds 723 Part set but it in a Picco GT1 Team case and crank ...freaking monster of an engine I may add. I felt the same my man..Air Boost 100%. For the Reds /Picco GT hybrid it went together seamless , they are both built in the same factory after all, I shimmed the sleeve up .30(+.10 over the new stroke ) and I'm currently at .67mm clearance, once its broken in I'll time it and cut it to GT'esq specs and tighten the squish but man is it crazy . The displacement is like a .24.5 (16.8x17.3). I ran the Reds gen 3 SV part set in the same case and crank and that jammed and it wasn't modified so I figured go all out and try w the 723 part set that I had laying around . The Carb is off the Picco R2 3518 9 port since its a 9mm carby, the GT1 carby is 8mm if I recall. Long story short Nitro Rules and that RTX backplate is now hanging from my rear view mirror in my car lol. Catch you next video brother.
Thanks bro. Shit happens in life. It is what it is.
I would be totally annoyed with that dangling on my rear view mirror lol
Think i will give it to a rival who runs Reds and hope he installs it lol
See you on the next one brother 👊
Awesome Video Kings You Been Putting That Dyno To Work💥💥💥💪
Thanks brother. Took me some effort to get it working properly, so now is the time to put it to use.
Appreciate the comment and you watching 👊
Another great vid bro! I agree with you. The RTX backplate is great marketing. My thoughts is if a pull start which uses a oneway bearing robs an engine of power, the RTX would have a similar problem due to bearings and rotating parts. Only difference is the RTX is not directly connected to the crank as most pullstarts. Anyways great to see you put the theory to the test with data.💯👊😎
Thanks bro. Yeah, genius idea but claim a drastic reduction in friction is just excellent marketing. Pull start is another story. Great idea to put that to the test some day. Facts don't lie.
Appreciate the comment and you watching 👊
Great video Kings, this was a lot of work.. swapping, tuning, testing, edditing.. very interesting. Your conclusion is the same as our expectations when we first talk about that spinning backplate a while ago, no surprise there, just a nice marketing gadget. Good to see you back at the track
Thanks buddy. It was indeed quite some work and it's exactly like we thought. Genius idea, excellent marketing. To bad there isn't one advantage in using this backplate. Actually only disadvantages
Excellent vid Kings 🤴 👊🏻 nice laps, great comparison 👍🏻 👍🏻👍🏻 luv the layout of that track 💯💪🤘✌️
Thank you very much Jeremy 👊
Nice work Kings‼️ That’s what testing is all about
- You will never know unless you try it out 💯
Thanks for a fun and informative video 🩷
Thanks buddy. It's very nice to do these test. Really enjoy doing this stuff and facts don't lie.
Appreciate the comment and you watching 👊
One of the most important videos for rc racing. Thank you for bringing facts and show that we aren't as dumb as rc brands make out to be.
Thank you very much. I expected this was more marketing. The idea is really genius though. To bad there is not one advantage when using this backplate.
Appreciate the comment and you watching.
@@kings-racing Anytime! Also seems the fuel test was good in the sense that you could get the same performance on the dyno, as you could with the rtx plate vs the air boost one, but on track was another matter.
Exactly. Track tune and dyno tune are two different things. The track tune was also to lean on the highspeed on the dyno. Specially for a 6 second pull.
@@kings-racing According to my research, in air cooled 2 stroke engines we are limited by cooling when tuning for top performance, water cooled less so. So the oil/oils in the fuel are as important as the fuel itself. Back plates, whatever guides the mix to the cylinder keeping it's momentum is the best.
Interesting data and result, great video 👍
Thank you very much Jukka 👊
Nice nice, info is The best entertainment
Thanks bro. Appreciate it.
love the vid brother and the new song intro bad to the bone brother great job
Thanks brother. Info on the Nitro Freak show!! Huge shout out to Tandra .
@@kings-racing hell ya loved that back plate testing your the man the top dog in my book in the nitro world thats for sure keep up the great work brother
@@NitroFreak Thanks brother. Appreciate the kind words 👊
Cool vid Kings 👑👍 Is the music from you 🤔 ? « Kings on the track » « Kings burning nitro » 🤔⛽️
Merci Serial. Yes, music from me and a bit AI. Very nice to add it on the vids.
Thanks for watching 👊
I'm no engine expert by any means, but I don't think they factored in rotating mass.
rotating mass is out of the equation. The crank is not attached to the backplate. On a regular backplate are some marks of the conrod. So theoretically there is friction, although it's very minute. The idea is to reduce friction because the plate will rotated when the conrod is hitting the backplate. I don't think this backplate is spinning much tbh. Also the marks on a regular backplate are in a oval shape. Not round. So the reduction of friction theoretically is probably very very minimal. It sure doesn't out way the advantages of a airboost backplate.
Appreciate the comment and you watching.
Did you 3d print the wing? My buddy made me one but with a brittle resin. I’d love to buy him a proper resin that would flex if anyone knows what I should get. That sucker rips man 🤘🏻
It's a Jconcepts wing. Part# 2998G
Thanks for watching 👊
Does reds have a regular back plate you can test against the air boost back plate to see the difference???
Yes, i have a regular Reds backplate and wanted to test that aswell. Unfortunately i forgot to bring it with me. Had the wrong package with another airboost backplate.
I will need test it another time.
brooooooo. beter ben je een keer op helmond als ik er ook ben. superdik man. wow
Hey Anton, ik ben meestal op zondag in Helmond. Soms op een doordeweekse dag, als m'n agenda dat toelaat.
Man, anyone else watching those dyno pulls and just craving tuning the LSN and idle gap?
Killing that motor not pulling down to idle and still revving like that. Idle gap is too big and low speed is FAT.
On the contrary. When you tune a engine on the track the HSN is too lean for a 6 second dyno pull.
@@kings-racingbut the LSN and idle were too fat and too high on the track as well, it was high idling and loading up if allowed to idle longer than a few seconds. The dyno pulls only made it more apparent. Surprised you haven't soft-seized a PS running like that.
@@alexanderrichards895the high reving you are referring to after the pull is caused by a too lean HSN on a 6 second pull. The idle gap was at 0,5mm with both backplates. Definitely not to big. I did have to change the tune when switching backplates. On the rtx it needed a richer low and leaner high in order to run properly and drop back to idle. I can agree that setting was fat on the low, ( specially compared to the airboost backplate), but that has nothing to do with the reving you are referring to.
hoi woow je videos zijn beter geworden!!! jij hebt veel ervaaring met nitro, daarom mijn vraag na mijn verhaal, ik heb vanmiddag met 20c mijn nieuwe OS MAX .21 geprobeerd te starten, met een starterbox, helaas is dat na 5 maal niet gelukt, 5 maal de zuiger vast, en met een schroeven draaier weer voorzichtig los gemaakt, nu denk ik dat me starter box niet goed genoeg is opgeladen hij ook niet de OS MAX verder kon draaien, het is natuurlijk moeilijk op afstand wat er is, enkel ik heb ook zo een engine heater en temp gun, en ik kreeg met de engine heater met een gel bat 12v 5ah geladen niet warmer dan 70c, is het better een headgun te gebruiken, 70c is niet zo warm, ik denk als ik die twee dingen, in orde heb, een heatgun, en me starterbox battery geladen zijn het moet lukken, zouw ik meschien iets veel airfilter olie op gedaan hebben, zit daar wijnig marge tussen, of gebeurt dat niet zo makelijk? heb je nog tips om het starten, indraaien te laate lukken graag?, ga zo door met videos goed werk!!!
Hoi, 70C is idd te weinig. Bij een nieuwe motor is de zuiger erg strak. Vandaar dat ie vast loopt en inrijden heel belangrijk is. Bij een eerste start verwarm ik de motor tot 130C. Daar heb je zeker een heatgun voor nodig.
Als ie eenmaal loopt de temperatuur tussen 110 en 120C houden. Zeker niet lager dan 100C. Je zult dus tijdens de break in de motor moeten verwarmen aangezien de rijke afstelling veel koelt.. Je zou bv de engine heater op de koelkop kunnen laten zitten tijdens de break in zodat er genoeg warmte in blijft. 1 of 2 tankjes laten idle'n, daarna rustig rondjes rijden met een rijke afstelling. Bij tank 8 kun je de motor al iets indraaien na elk tankje. Na ongeveer 12 tankjes kun je de motor tunen en rijden. Zeker nog niet te arm zetten. Na 1,5 / 2L is de motor goed ingelopen.
Succes en veel plezier met je nieuwe motor.
@@kings-racing Dank je wel man!!! super dikke uitleg daar heb ik zeker wat aan!!!, gelukkig is de motor nog heel! hoop ik 😚, ik ga voor volgende poging de os max .21 warme met een heatgun, die engine heaters worden dus niet zo warm, en dan idd paar tankje's inloopen, en de temp ik dacht niet onder de 200c en niet boven 220,en tussen 110c tot 120c kan mischien ook? dan ga ik de 12v gel bat retouren, ik gebruik de engine heater enkel er over om de warmte daar te houden, zet hem niet aan dat heeft niet veel zin dacht ik? nogmaals dank!!!
Hello! Where is this location? :)
This track is in the Netherlands.
Ai theme song! lol
lol. I exaggerated a bit lol....... I don't wear my crown on the track at all😂 but it's f''in awesome you can do this.
@@kings-racing the amount of work it takes making a song is it’s scary how fast ai does it.
@@haywirercTrue. This only takes a couple of seconds. It's awesome you can do this, but when you think about ai it's bad news.