Extreme Tour vs. Pure Aero VS

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @marisbiedris1694
    @marisbiedris1694 2 года назад +10

    At last, was waiting for this comparison for long! Thank you for in depth details!

  • @BS-qy3qm
    @BS-qy3qm 2 года назад +9

    Loved this video! Super informative and included qualities of frames most people don't consider in reviews . Too many reviews are purely based on specs that anyone can read off of a site ...

  • @gregiffer
    @gregiffer 2 года назад +11

    Awesome comparison review. On a side note, your strokes looks great!

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +2

      Hahaha thanks for inflating my ego even more

  • @ACTennis
    @ACTennis 2 года назад +6

    Finally bout to get my Briffidi SW machine this week, so i can measure SW, but also TW at home
    Also...I got too curious with all your vids, so i finally put in a demo for the Aero VS , and retrying the Extreme Tour, which also makes me want to buy the SX Tour since i can't demo it

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      i'm very jealous! The SW Machine looks sick.

    • @johnjohn-ik1kt
      @johnjohn-ik1kt 2 года назад

      SX Tour 2022 version was the worst purchase to date. It is the most muted yet stuff racquet I have ever played with. I couldn't feel the ball and it hurt my wrist. lose-lose. It's actually a huge fail on Dunlop. On the FX500 Tour is a really great racquet.

  • @kaanozalpay2113
    @kaanozalpay2113 2 года назад +2

    thank you so much, not only for the information bu also for the video quality.100!

  • @kimmorrison9169
    @kimmorrison9169 Год назад +3

    I’ve been watching tennis racquet comparison videos for a few yrs now and have NEVER heard the term “twist rate”. Thanks for explaining it. I believe it should be advertised with all the other racquet specs as its a valuable thing to know. As the owner of a 2017 model Pure Aero VS I can agree with all you said about it. Not sure thou whether I would prefer it to the Head Extreme. I would surely like to demo one though. Thank u

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  Год назад +1

      Hi Kim, happy to help! I think that one of the reasons that manufacturers don't like twistweight is because its hard for them to quality control for.

  • @juanvicencio2390
    @juanvicencio2390 3 месяца назад

    Hi!...late to the party here, but since the new extreme came out, I was thinking to choose between the new one and the babolat pure Aero....seems the extreme is a little more customizable? Have you tried the extreme with the swing weight of the babolat?...that compromise in power is what put me off, but I have always preferred head frames than babolat....(ironically, I always felt babolat frames too flexible...but seems in this case it is the opposite)

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 месяца назад

      Yeah. I just hit the new Extreme Pro and have been hitting the Aero 98 extensively. IMO they are almost not even that comparable. The Extreme Pro is a pure player's racquet, lots of control and feel, low power and below average stability. The spin is good, but only because it lets you modulate spin well, in other words, it let's you swing with a ton of spin if you want or flatten it out. There's nothing for free with the Extreme Pro. The PA 98 has way more for free. Free spin on every shot. Free power. Way more stability. Much less feel and control. Less variability in every swing.

  • @adriellepretre9047
    @adriellepretre9047 2 года назад +1

    Hi. I’ve used the pure aero but find it stiff and it hurts my elbow. Is it different with the vs? Also I used the extreme tour and was planning to buy one. I’m in a dilemma. I adjust well to the aero design. Because of my technique but I like also the head feel. Maybe I’ll have to play with both fue sine tube ti decide. Also, what do you think of using signum pro firestorm string with these rackets?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      I love FIrestorm, one of my faves in the Extreme Tour. PA VS will still give you troubles if the PA does. Extreme Tour + VT Advantec grip and 2 strips should be comfortable enough.

  • @etiennebyrde4781
    @etiennebyrde4781 2 года назад +4

    Hello good video with a lot of info as usual 👌🏼 I demoed the extreme tour with lynx tour on main 1.25 and prince synthetic gut nylon durables on the cross 1.35. Tensions was about 25 kg
    Do you recommend to put a litlle bit of lead tape to get a litlle bit more power ? Or maybe try a bull bed of lynx tour with a litlle bit less tension? What is your tension on your raquet ? Thx in advance for your coments and congrats for your channel 🎾💪🏼😎

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +3

      Thanks for the kind words Etienne! I recommend putting a few grams of lead at 12 o clock to bump up the swingweight for put away power.
      I string with Volkl Cyclone at 52lbs, but if I would using Lynx Tour in a full bed I would go 50lbs or 22.5 kg.

  • @edx1000
    @edx1000 Год назад

    Hello. I've been playing with an aero VS (I ended up abandoning my VCore 98). It's fantastic. I like everything. I'm loving her, but unfortunately it's kind of sadomasochistic love for my elbow (😁). My elbow started to hurt and I never had pain with my previous one (VCore 98). Do you think the current Extreme Tour is very similar "in practice" to aero VS? Is it less permissive than VS? It seems that a partner of yours said this in another review on your channel, when he complains that outside the sweet spot the ET ball comes out very strange. I had the same problem with the VCore 98. Do you think it would be a good change to leave the VS (because of the elbow) and go to the ET? If so, what kind of customization do you recommend to solve this problem your colleague said about hitting outside the sweet spot and the ball getting really bad? I would really like to find a racket that gives me the same performance as the VS but without the pain

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  Год назад +1

      The PAVS is way more powerful and forgiving off centre compared to the ET and ET Auxetic. You’d need to string looser and add weight at 3 and 9 to get similar results. I would look at the Radical MP before the ET. Also, new Radical MP and Pure Aero 98 in January if you can wait. If the PA98 follows the 2023 PA, it should be more comfortable. I’d even say the 2023 PA is worth considering. Control is much improved from the previous gen.

    • @edx1000
      @edx1000 Год назад

      @@TennCom Thanks a Lot. I Will think about. I can wait for these New models

    • @edx1000
      @edx1000 Год назад

      @@TennCom I saw this on a website: "Compared to the Pure Aero VS it replaced, the 98 has flax fibers at 3 and 9 o'clock - but not in the cable like the standard Pure Aero - and a little lower for better control." It's worth waiting until January.

  • @pesorodri727
    @pesorodri727 2 года назад +1

    Hello love your reviews!! Would you recommend switching from head extreme MP(previous version) to the new latest one ? Would go for head extreme tour now. But is it worth it? Or SOME customization could do? Thank you for an answer

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +1

      Probably not worth switching from MP to MP. What do you want out of your racquet? Any problems with the current MP?

    • @vecek7654
      @vecek7654 2 года назад +1

      @@TennCom Thank you very much for your response :) I think it works pretty good to me. Just was wondering if there is some ESSENTIALS in the new one..

  • @thomaskuhn6541
    @thomaskuhn6541 2 года назад +1

    How does the twist weight of the new Ezone 98 compare with the 14.3 and 14.6 of these two racquets. 14.3 vs 14.6 doesn't sound like that big a difference, but I'm not familiar with the scale that is measured on.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      It’s a 2% change, which I find about as noticeable as a 2% change in swingweight. Here is my source twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/twistweight.cgi

  • @aj520605
    @aj520605 2 года назад

    I play with Head Speed Pro now (great stick but I without access to an explosive power and spin) and want to choose between the Head Extreme Tour and Babolat Aero VS now. Head Speed Pro is quite easy to swing with

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +1

      The Aero VS is slower through the air than the Extreme Tour and the EZone 98 in my opinion, but based on what you are looking for, I think you'll like it the most. It's a lot more stable than the Speed Pro and gives you a lot more put away power than the Extreme or the EZone. The Aero VS isn't slow or unwieldy at all, it's just the least maneuverable of some of the fastest sticks on the market.

  • @chadallen3211
    @chadallen3211 Год назад

    Beckett, are you still playing with the Extreme Tour? Do you think there's a chance that you may switch to the new Pure Aero 98 when it comes out?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  Год назад

      Yeah decent chance. Liked the new Aero a lot

  • @jorgeandrescoppiano
    @jorgeandrescoppiano Год назад

    Bennett, how would you rank these from most to least powerful?
    Pure Aero VS
    Pure Drive VS
    Pure Strike 16x19 3rd gen
    Auxetic Extreme Tour

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  Год назад

      I haven’t tried the PD VS, but Strike > Aero >>> Extreme

    • @jorgeandrescoppiano
      @jorgeandrescoppiano Год назад

      @@TennCom wow, the Strike the most powerful of the 3…would have thought it was the most controlled. Where would you place the Strike 18x20?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  Год назад +1

      String pattern doesn’t change my power rating. It shouldn’t really have a big impact on heaviness of the ball you hit unless there’s a psychological impact on your game. Different patterns won’t result in an change in ball speed, which is what I call power. 16x19 will give you easier access to depth, which may be perceived as power by the user. On the other hand, maybe the lower launch angle makes you hit harder so you might perceive the 18x20 to have more power. Or maybe 18x20 has more mass in the head because there’s more strings, meaning higher swingweight and more power.
      For control, or predictability of the string bed, I would say
      Extreme Tour > Strike 18 x 20 > aero VS > strike 16x19

    • @jorgeandrescoppiano
      @jorgeandrescoppiano Год назад

      @@TennCom really nice explanation. I was thinking, then the 18x20 should be more predictable and lower launch angle, but also a bit less trampoline, so less ball speed

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  Год назад +1

      The reading I’ve done in tennis warehouse university and when I studied for the USRSA Master Racquet Technician test say they there’s nothing conclusive about string pattern and ball speed. I think that the 18x20 strike is trending a slightly higher avg sw but who knows due to QC anyway.
      I think the Aero is the best all around racquet if the bunch anyway and we are getting a new one (Pure Aero 98) in January too

  • @samjung2297
    @samjung2297 2 года назад +1

    You need to check out the Regna 98 if you look at the TW racquet comparison tool the regna 98 and the Extreme Tour are almost an identical racquet but very few differences. At least according to TW U Regna has a lower twistweight (14 vs 14.3) slight more power 41 vs 40 and bigger sweetzone 17 vs 16.. You might actually fall in love with a Regna if you like the Extreme Tour, that is if you are able to find one..

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      I strung a Regna once. The guy said I could try it if I ever saw him on the courts. I haven't seen him since. :'(

    • @kimmorrison9169
      @kimmorrison9169 Год назад

      Harry at Tennis Spin loves the Regina. He got one months ago

  • @masseyfergusonab
    @masseyfergusonab 2 года назад

    which one you would recommend between radical mp, extreme tour, clash 100, ezone 100 to a 4 months serious beginner

  • @SRKarting
    @SRKarting 2 года назад

    Great video mate, fantastic explanation. Ive just ordered a Head Extreme Tour, looking for a new stick to replace my DR98;s

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      I hope you love it!

  • @andreilaki1060
    @andreilaki1060 2 года назад

    I have them both and they are strung with hyper-g at 23kg - the VS is stiffer works better on my semi-western forehand and has better control on most shots while the extreme tour is much plusher has a lower lunch angle and works better for my one handed backhand..but also has more power. Maybe mine has a higher swingweight but it definitely has more pop than the babolat.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      Sounds like you got a copy of an ET with a high SW, or a PA with a low SW.

  • @pauliusvoveraitis8035
    @pauliusvoveraitis8035 2 года назад

    Head Extreme tour vs Babolat AeroPro Drive 2013. Your thoughts?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      It been a long time since I last hit with the APD 2013, but I did use it for 5 years from 2013 to 2018. I would think of the Extreme Tour as a control oriented version of the 2013 APD. Less free power, but better feel and control.

  • @musicman9945
    @musicman9945 2 года назад +2

    I am trying out the VS tonight. Great insight and curious how I will like it compared to the extreme tour which is my favorite racket I have demoed so far

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      let me know how it turns out!

    • @musicman9945
      @musicman9945 2 года назад

      @@TennCom I tried the VS tonight and although I liked it better than the original Pure aero it was still to unstable for me. I also tried the prestige mp but that was a bit sluggish. I am going to try a few more but I will probably lean towards the extreme tour with customization if needed like yourself

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      @@musicman9945 Have you tired the Radical MP? I was pretty impressed with its stability as well, though would need some lead for a bit extra power.

    • @musicman9945
      @musicman9945 2 года назад +2

      @@TennCom Good to know. I will try that next. I am a 3.5 and playing a hard hitting 3.5/4.0 player tomorrow so a good test on stability

    • @musicman9945
      @musicman9945 2 года назад

      @@TennCom thanks for the suggestion on the radical it was a great racket and for me was better than the extreme. It does need a little more weight that the extreme had but I will probably go with that. It was super close though I liked both

  • @niberdoom
    @niberdoom 2 года назад +1

    Great review. Please do a Extremt Tour vs the new TF40 18x20 305g?

    • @jabirout
      @jabirout 2 года назад +1

      No need, they are so different, higher sw, less manoeuvrability, equal feel, you got more pop on flat shots with the tf and at serve.
      I own the extreme tour and tf40 16x19 305 at the very same weight (304g), I clearly prefer the feeling of the head, the slice to, the tf40 is a bit less manoeuvrable, has the same pace, the same stringbed, ra is lower but it doesn't feel so. Also the head ET has a bigger sweetspot but the Tf40 is just gorgeous.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +1

      Please see the comment before mine, as I have not tried the TF40

  • @johnjohn-ik1kt
    @johnjohn-ik1kt 2 года назад +1

    you HAVE to do the demo of Dunlop FX500 Tour I've been a Extreme Tour user for 2 years and I am making a switch to this racquet. this racquet is a gem hiding in our plain sight. an absolute TITAN of a racuqet.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +1

      Hahaha ok you give me no Choice

    • @ForbiddenTechs
      @ForbiddenTechs 2 года назад +2

      @@TennCom I second this claim. Dunlop FX500 Tour is a different animal.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      Your motion is granted I will try to find one

    • @johnjohn-ik1kt
      @johnjohn-ik1kt 2 года назад +1

      @@TennCom I've been playing it for two days now and I really like it. It actually feels a lot like Bab Pure Aero VS with a bigger sweet spot. Yonex PTP strung at 54/54.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      @@johnjohn-ik1kt who knew the FX500 was such a sleeper haha

  • @The127Greg
    @The127Greg 2 года назад

    What do you think between Vcore 95 and the Pure Aero VS ?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +1

      I havent had enough playing time with the newest VC95, but I really preferred the 2018 version to the current model. This is mainly because the feel on the new one was completely sacrificed for power, which is funny because we are trying to compare to a Babolat. So in that way, I almost feel like the new VC95 doesnt bring as much to the table as the PA VS, due to the extra forgiveness and stability from the PA VS.

  • @dockerface
    @dockerface 2 года назад +1

    I'd really appreciate your insight on Technifibre TF40 and RS lines.

  • @jpwjpwjpw
    @jpwjpwjpw 2 года назад

    Try double lead strips on pure aero vs because right now they are too wide hence increasing the twist weight.
    Cheers

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      Thank you for the suggestion, but I am not sensitive enough to notice double stacked at 12 vs. a longer strip. I did a comparison when I had matched VCORE 95's with 6g of lead, one double stacked and one single strip and I could not tell.

  • @nicolelee7440
    @nicolelee7440 2 года назад +1

    I'm torn between the new Yonex Ezone 98 and the Ezone 100. I'm currently playing with an older version of the Head Speed Pro 18x20 (11.8 oz, 9 pt HL), which has great control and feel but I'm considering a 16/19 for the higher launch angle and a bit more spin. Possible considerations include the Head Extreme Tour and the new Speed MP and either the new Yonex 98 or 100. Of note, maneuverability and control are important racket characteristics and I do plan to customize. Thanks.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      Which Speed are you using? Is it the Graphene Touch or 360?

    • @nicolelee7440
      @nicolelee7440 2 года назад

      @@TennCom it's the Graphene 360. Hope this helps. Also, great job on the videos, which are very informative.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Nicole!
      I think that the Speed Pro is actually a little more forgiving that the Extreme Tour and the newest EZONE 98. That said, I worry the EZONE 100 is going to be too much of an increase in power.
      I would recommend the Gravity MP or the Radical MP. These both feel quite solid and stable for their weight, offer a slightly higher launch angle that blends control nicely. They both also offer more power than the EZONE 98 or the Extreme Tour on off centre shots. The low weight also leaves a LOT of room for customization which I really like.

    • @nicolelee7440
      @nicolelee7440 2 года назад +1

      @@TennCom Thanks for the recommendations and I appreciate the prompt response.

  • @onimaxiis1
    @onimaxiis1 2 года назад

    Which racket of these two produce havier ball?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      In stock form, Aero VS by a mile

  • @Bambotb
    @Bambotb 2 года назад +1

    Pure strike VS ?

  • @MaxWeishan
    @MaxWeishan 2 года назад +1

    love it. could you please do Extreme tour vs Gravity pro??

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +5

      Gravity Pro review to release in a few days!

  • @MaxandChee
    @MaxandChee 2 года назад

    How much lead did you add on the Extreme Tour?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      My personal Extreme's are leaded at 12 o'clock to 338 SW, with a leather grip and 6g of lead at 7 inches. I made a video on it: ruclips.net/video/cFTAryG_F_8/видео.html&ab_channel=TennCom

  • @Francisyrah
    @Francisyrah 2 года назад

    Great review, have you tried the Head pro version? It’s my favourite of the line

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      I haven't, as it's not available in Canada. I didn't like the previous version (all yeellow), but have heard a few really good things about the current model.

  • @K4R3N
    @K4R3N 2 года назад +1

    Great content

  • @liamdendekker318
    @liamdendekker318 2 года назад

    Where should i put lead tape on the head extreme tour

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      What do you want to change about it

  • @raghuveer9887
    @raghuveer9887 2 года назад

    Bablot Pure Aero *VS* and Yonex Ezone 98 *Tour* comparison could you please review

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      Won’t be doing anything in the Aero VS until it’s replaced with the new Aero 98 in 2023.

  • @chadjohnson8639
    @chadjohnson8639 2 года назад

    What courts are these ?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +1

      Batman never reveals the location of the Batcave

  • @bruhhvalo7594
    @bruhhvalo7594 2 года назад

    heya can u do a comparison between the head speed pro and the head gravity pro

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      I still haven’t found a new speed pro to demo sadly

  • @dockerface
    @dockerface 2 года назад +1

    Do you know how is racquettech's health? I'm concerned.

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад +2

      No idea. Never actually talked to him sadly. I really hope things are well for him. He's always been a great contributor to the community.

  • @andreaantili920
    @andreaantili920 2 года назад

    What about head extreme 315g?

    • @TennCom
      @TennCom  2 года назад

      not avail in my country sadly

  • @blockchainmitv3379
    @blockchainmitv3379 2 года назад +1

    one punch man in tennis. cool

  • @pengchen2285
    @pengchen2285 2 года назад

    Your video is good stuff, mate, but you always sound like you are whispering. You could use more stomach when you are speaking to make your sound firmer and avoid sounding weak.

  • @Bambotb
    @Bambotb 2 года назад

    You don't tell whixh strings you used for each so not a good comparaison unless both had same strings and type of it

  • @udallfalcone3703
    @udallfalcone3703 2 года назад

    ᵖʳᵒᵐᵒˢᵐ 🙏