I’ve never been good with drywall, mud and paint and you’ve encouraged me to be better at it as I do need to run wires and I have no way of dropping from an attic and need to go “rogue” from the inside of the finished wall. I’m determined. Thanks. Subscribed.
This is the clearest video for the beginner who must work with a ceiling patch. I like your ad lib commentary, especially the part where you make a mistake (on purpose or by accident)-- then point it out, saying "don't do this". That trial and error helps us learn more quickly, because we have seen what not to do, and we can avoid making the same mistake. Your audio is very clear and the subject is well lighted, with the camera exactly where it needs to be for the best "over-the-shoulder" viewpoint. Little tips like the type of mud to buy are actually very important-- the local hardware store has mud powder as well as pre-mixed, and you clearly do not need the powder. You prescribe 15 or 20-minute mud, which saves us the guesswork. As you point out frequently, the steps you take are based on experience, which (often) is the best teacher.
I'm now retired but did home remodeling for years... just about every job I worked on needed some kind of patch work... when I was done you could not find the hole I patched, whether it was an old electrical outlet or switch to 4 foot holes in ceilings... I used to do what was called a "California patch" which is very similar to what's being done here but with a bit less work... my patch work was stronger than the wall around it... needless to say home owners and landlords loved my work and I got most of my jobs by word of mouth alone
I used your technique to repair ceiling and side wall sheet rock damaged by pex pinhole leak. The end result was near professional finish. Even I couldn't believe it. Your presentation was clear and simple - Good job and thank you for posting.
Thank you Alan for your demo video of how to patch a hole in the ceiling. The plumber cut a hole just like the size on your video but an odd shape like a kite. He has to see where the leak is coming from the upper bathroom. It was fixed but he will not patch the hole. He did not give me back the cut drywall. Instead of calling a handy man, I saw your video. I did not put a backing. I don't have tools and it will be too much for me. I put a thick cardboard and it really fit the hole. I put the nylon mesh tape and applied the mud 3 coatings sanding every application. There's still a little hump but not noticeable unless you really look at it. I don't want to put another patch because our lower bathroom has glass door and the hole is above the end of the bathtub. I was patching it sideways not like you. I will just apply paint. I am 98% satisfied with my first patching job. Thanks so much. I saved some money.
I hope this will be helpful to you. 1st. Throw thoes sticks away. Forget the screws. Now lets start over. First, when you cut the hole, cut with the blade at an angle to wall or celing. I try to cut at a 45 degree angle. Now the patching. Mix up some 5 lite and spread it on the 45 degree edges of the patch and hole. Now, push the patch in the hole. Trowel smooth. Last, use a tile sponge to wet sand. Put the spong in water. Wet sand with the abrasive side. Rince spong as needed. Now, sand smooth with soft side of sponge. Rince and sand as needed. Been doing it 40 years.
So cut the drywall at an angle, butter the edges of the patch and insert again. Trowel off the excess that squeezes out, then smooth over with a sponge while still wet mud. No need to sand after dry now? Then just paint?
Thanks for this video Alan. I'm a truck driver but I try to do as much stuff at home as I can. I literally had no idea how to fix a hole in the ceiling. Anyway, I watched this video a couple times and followed as close as I could and my ceiling came out great. The mud part was trickier than I thought. Took a few more coats for me to get it smooth. Don't underestimate the mud step people.
What you did wrong? Nothing. Here's what you did right: 1. No 30 second intro. Waste of friggin' time. 2. No music. I have a radio. If I want music, I'll turn it on. 3. Moved quickly over the steps, quickly reiterated important steps. 4. Emphasized steps that were critical and steps that were non-critical. Very important. Possibly the most watchable how-to video I've seen, and I've seen 100's if not 1000's. I've patched dozens of holes in drywall, still managed to pick up some pointers. Very well done.
That English Bloke With MS Yes , there are a ton of terrible videos. I’m appreciative of them all for taking the time to make them for whatever their reason. He did do a great job. The winded complaining somehow nudged me. We all have our moments. Cheers!
Excellent! This is the trade skill that I'm very weak at. You make it look easy, I'll have to study your video again for this weekend when I install ceiling fans with no attic space. GReat work Alan!
Alan... last year I had a leak in the bathroom upstairs that damaged the ceiling in the spare room downstairs. After the plumber left, I spent a whole day patching the ceiling. Looks like crap. LOL. A month ago I had another leak upstairs that caused damage to my living room ceiling. Plumber fixed the leak, but I have a hole in the drywall in the ceiling. I have been wanting to call a contractor to fix the damage, but I knew it would cost more than it should. So I have been inspired to attempt to patch the drywall myself. And if it works out, I will redo the patch in the spare room. Thanks for making it look less daunting.
Thanks to your video, it turned out great. It only took me two coats of mud, and the worst part was the waiting as it dried. I let my wife do the texture and she did a pro job. Just need to paint it tomorrow. Thanks again, Alan.
Thanks for your very informative and easy to follow video. I have a ceiling patch resulting from a plumbing leak and your video gives me the confidence I need to patch it.
We didn't have a power on the ceiling of the patio, and to bring it there I hired one electrician from a decent company "MileStone". He brought the wire there, but failed to cut the hole for the pan electrical box symmetrically, so the load bearing joist is going not through the center of that hole, but slightly shifted (not more that ~1/4"). The electrician attached the box not to the center of the stud, as a result, so the stud got slightly split, and the box itself was sitting on two #6 screws (~1.5") and one big (~#12-14) short screw on the end of the box. Maybe it would hold like that for couple years, but I like solid work, so decided to redo it. Not sure is it better to cut out the ceiling more (but then you need to patch it), or strengthen somehow the bottom of that joist in addition to the glue for wood "Gorilla" and pieces of wood I used with clamps to close the splits and unnecessary multiple holes the technician did. I would appreciate any opinion on the question: is it better to cut a bigger hole or just to strengthen that joist. The ceiling on our patio is from some kind of plywood, it is not drywall. Is it hard to patch it? Thank you for the great film.
After watching video then I am going to try and repair the damage to my sons bedroom ceiling caused by water damage. Never did much DIY before but trying to save money. Wish me luck :)
Great video, thanks for posting. Also, at 1:03, I thought it was kind of funny that you put that piece of ceiling debris right back into the ceiling. 🙂
My method/system is mainly for repairing holes walls but can be used for ceilings with a slight adjustment so here is my smooth and Flush hole repair for any size I have a way to patch a hole from under an inch to over 6” that will allow you finish the repair totally flush. So less sanding means a quicker repair that will be impossible to tell after painting. You will be applying the “mud”within a couple of minutes starting the repair. The fiber insert means less mud use and help keep the mud from sliding down. My smooth and flush dry wall hole repair is by far the fast, easiest, cleanest way to do the repair. Oh and the wholesale cost to repair a 6” hole would add less than a dollar. There’s more! if you use on of my wall diapers price would go up but clean up is faster and easier ending with a cleaner then before you start. In fact a lot you probably have these in your house now Thank you AKA The Wild Hair Inventor
This is what I was looking for. Thank you. I had already thought about putting the wood up there, but I couldn't figure out how to secure the patch to it. Thanks man.
As a drywall pro...I have seen many DIY videos...great vid...but one thing a tip...... when using 8 in or more drywall blades bend the outside edges in...so to make a little hump in the middle...
So that's how its done. When the HVAC guys put the unit in the roof space they cut a hole in the ceiling to install it. Now I have a hole and the drywall that went in it. Great video lesson so I can fix it.
What makes the job easier/better is to feather out the edges with a damp sponge. Let the plaster dry out a little then smooth out the edges and feather out the edges with a damp sponge. Makes a big difference to blending and reduces the need to sand.
Great video. The only patch I have done so far is what was called a California patch. Worked okay but your video helped me understand that patches seem to be easy. I won't be afraid to cut a hole and patch it in the future. The problem I usually have when doing this type of work is finding the paint that exactly matches the previous paint. Good job!
Thanks fir watching. Getting paint to match is the worst. I always clearly stated painting was not part of the project when I was bidding jobs. If you’re not careful, you’ll end up painting the whole house.
Here’s a little more advice for doing lighting. Get a rough idea of where your lighting will go and find all the studs in the area. Then adjust the lighting locations if necessary. After you locate the studs you may find some locations to be brutally difficult to pull off. Knowing what you’re up against ahead of time is a big help. Good luck!
Thanks for making a somewhat tough job easy. I was planning on hiring a drywall person to come in to repair a patch but because of your video I’m gonna do it myself
Alan I’m dealing with a huge hole in my ceiling because of water damage from a leaky pipe. Unfortunately I live in an old rent control apartment and the workers they hire are idiots! So I’ll show them your videos before they start the job. Period!!! Thanks for making this informative video.
Good job bud..I'm a plaster by trade but I do so many drywall patches on the side..you well hit on the money on drywall patch the only difference is I do it all at once including paint..I use a heat gun at every coat keeping me on that patch 100% without walking away till done..patch like that takes me around a hour tops ...good job your patch advice is dead on ..👍✊👊
Thank You for the video. I've never done this before, but now I'll try to fix a 12" dia. hole in my ceiling (from an old wood stove pipe) using your video as a guide.
You did an excellent job! And, I appreciate your awesome attitude! Your attention to detail made it easy for a woman like me (I never do stuff like that) to surprise my husband and make his load lighter. Thank you sooooo much!!!!
We have skip trowel and had to do a patch. Best way is to thin out the mud some and then spread a few random clumps over the area. Then just skim it with the knife. Comes out beautiful in one shot.
I did a ceiling patch today about the same size as this one. I had to use a stir stick because it was the only piece of scrap wood I had in the garage. It actually worked perfectly but I did pre-drill it so as not to crack it.
Fantastic video! I have to repair a ceiling hole from a light fixture in the bathroom. Going to get another longer drywall blade thing and a bucket like you have. It's time to step it up away from the pre-mixed stuff. Thank you for making this video!
Glad to help! If you're like me, you'll use those tools a couple times a year to fix minor patches around the house. (I have rough kids that break things). Good luck and thanks for watching!
Can't wait to give this a shot man thanks. I have to wait until my new roof gets installed 1st, slow leak on top floor ceiling caused the drywall to warp. it'll continue to get worse until the leak stops
Thanks for this video. I found it to be very helpful. I'm installing a ceiling fan in my bedroom but I need to make another hole about a foot away from the original light fixture hole to make it even and to hold better with the new fan mount. I'll be patching the old hole in the ceiling. I know nothing about patching holes in the ceiling but I'm pretty good with following instructions from how to videos. :)
Awesome! A follow up post would be great to know how it goes. As a side note, you can get a small, thin (1/2"), round box for ceiling fans instead of using fan brackets. They are called "pancake boxes" and since they are only 1/2" thick and your drywall is 1/2" thick, you just cut a round hole right below your joist and attach the box to the joist directly. Since the box is as thick as the drywall, it will sit flush. It's a faster, easier, and stronger way to do ceiling fans. The box is wider than the joist, so it will overlap the joist by an inch or two allowing you to run the romex (electric cable) into the box without issue.
Alan Clegg. Thanks so much for that tip. I ran into one of those pancake boxes for the first time a month ago, and I can see the labor saving benefits it provided to the contractor. Unfortunately, my customer had purchased remote control fans - there was no room to squeeze the receiver and all the extra wires into a 1/2” box, or so it seemed. That was when I learned the benefits of push-in wire connectors. They require much less space than the usual wire nuts and made the impossible possible. Thanks for a really great video on patching holes - I can now undertake projects that scared me off in the past. CML
Alan , Well done. Very informative video. I have a water leak stain in my bedroom ceiling and all it requires is a bit of drywall tape and the mud to repair it. I do believe after watching your video that I can do it. Thank you for the lesson...............
Thank you for making this video. I've never had anyone teach me how to fix things around the house and I had a hole just like yours and I can't wait to fix it now that I see how to do it and it looks a lot easier than I thought. Thanks again.
Good explanation. I’ve been patching for a long time. I like to to do a third coat with pre mixed topping compound - sands easier. Two coats of 20 and a third coat of topping but whatever works for you.
I use fiba fuse fiberglass tape and black and green bucket pre mixed mudd it takes longer but I can usually coat it later on in the day. I work as a commercial electrician and I’ve never seen them use bag mudd unless filling in holes
You wouldn’t use bag mud on a commercial job. They’ll lay down boxes and boxes of mud in a day then come back and sand it a week later. This technique is just for patching small holes from start to finish in the same day. Thanks for watching.
Search out the "California patch" I started using these for drywall patching a while back during new cable pulls & rewires... The results are really good.
I’ve used the California patch a few times. You’re right. It is very helpful. I actually made a video on how to do them. Check it out and leave some feedback. ruclips.net/video/UIES4bnzeCI/видео.html
I really like your attitude man.....I work in the HVAC industry and working with people like you is a true blessing and makes going to work fun! Good job!!!
Great work, well done!!! Thanks for those ideas. I'm new with this. I've never done this, but I'll with your tutorial. Looks so easy. Thanks, God bless you and all the other great people that are open to give knowledge. God bless you all.
Alan Clegg Doesn't anybody know the blowout patch? Let me see if I can make this simple Say you cut a Hole 12in x 12in like he has up there in his ceiling. Cut a sheetrock patch 2" bigger than the hole you you are repairing. Turn the patch material over, face down and on the back measure 1" along the outside edge on all four sides, scoring only the back paper and the gypsum but leaving the front paper intact. Then snap the gypsum and peel it from the front paper. So in effect what you made is a drywall patch that is a 12 x 12 gypsum plug with 1 inch tape all around all in one piece. Butter up the paper edges, carry some on to the edges of the gypsum, press the patch into place, trowel smooth the compound from under the paper edges then finish taping as you would any other drywall repair. What I like to do is make sure the gypsum remaining on my patch is slightly bigger than my hole repaired, that way the patch holds itself up without sagging and allows to push the patch slightly further-in, past the surface leaving a slight indent which then can be filled as you tape to assure there is no high spot in your surface. A high-end Builder I worked for when I first broke in in the 80s had bought a house on a property he was to subdivide and a complete renovation of that house was the first order of business. In the kitchen the cabinet floor plan was changed therefore the 20-odd high hat lights were to be repositioned with the existing locations patched and repaired but otherwise the ceiling was left intact. His tapers always gave him the best price so part of the deal was the carpenters would patch all the holes and they follow and tape. The old guys threw me in there because nobody wanted to hassle with 20+ down light patches. But with this blow-out patch I had learned from a remodeler I worked under one year, I made quick work of it I used a drywall Circle cutter and made patches 2 inches larger in diameter than the hole, flipped the patch over, set my circle cutter to the hole size plus 1/8" and scored that Circle. Scoring the gypsum around a circle required a little more hand work than a straight line, though if your patch material is fresh drywall the gypsum is easily released from the paper making sure the back of your paper "tape" is completely clean of any bits The tapers appreciated my efforts to make their job easy by eliminating the need for them to run any tape themselves, and I did not have to set the patches. I put them in a box on top of the Rolling Baker and they came by on their stilts and affected all the repairs. So it's no bits of wood, no screw gun, no sheetrock screws ripping old paper or cracking old gypsum near the edge your hole, no fiddling around up above the ceiling or behind the wall. It even works on a plaster repair in a pinch . So there you have it... a blowout patch... a plug and paper tape all in one go and a couple of coats of compound and voilà you're finished Everything I ever learned in the trades and almost everything that I finally know now has been handed down to me or picked up by me as I walked through buildings under construction noticing the details of how things are put togethet There's no course to take and not found in any books this knowledge has been passed along for generations, over hundreds maybe even thousands of years. This above anything else is what I loved about my life working in the Building Trades
Great video with plenty of demonstration. That's the same way I do it when I have to cut out a wall job well done you'd be surprised at how many people do not know how to do that
Exactly! I've used it a couple of times. I didn't do as good a job as the video did but paint helped. I'm sure I can do better in the future especially after watching your video today. Thanks again.
Very helpful! I have to patch a 9"X11" piece in my ceiling. It's right up to the wall. I believe the texture is a "knock-down" so that will be a new experience for me to match the texture. But, the random texture should help disguise the patch.
Great video Alan.Good workmanship.Almost nothing worse than a hole in the ceiling.Cant believe i put my foot through but repairs look good as new.Cheers.
This is exactly how I've been fixing drywall patches for about 18 years. I always talk people out of using those hot patches from Lowes and Home Depot. They're a waste of money.
If u put 5mm packers between the ceiling and the support battens and fix the battens as shown then fix the cut out as shown you should be left with a 5mm difference between the existing ceiling and the patch fill it in as shown in the video and finish as shown to a level finish then there is no need to put the tape around ( in England this is called scrim)
Great tips that almost no other videos mention: apply pressure on the border to smooth the mud, mix your own mud for costs and better consistency. These should really help my next project.
Even better than using tape is a caulking gun around edge with fast drying liquid nails. Then you only need a tiny amount of mixture to level out. Quick sand then it’s flawless
Protip: Buy Sheetrock 45, add warm water and a bit of salt. The salt and warm water will cause the joint compound to set up faster. Then it's 5 minute mud.
Very informative and well presented as well as enjoyable to watch. Thank you Alan; this is a great DIY video. You have a great speaking voice and you are very charismatic.
There's another way that I use and that's to bridge the hole gap with a piece of plasterboard and stick it down using the wet plaster and then screw the patch to that, finish plastering as you demoed.
im a girl and my boyfriend punched two holes in my wall ...and i rent this place so i was so scared to ask my landlord to fix it and this helped so much ...very informative video and you made it so easy for me to do it ...now that i know how to do this it makes me want to fix ither things lol
After seeing your video I have the confidence to fix my similar patch in the ceiling. But my texture is different. I don't know how to paint similar texture.
Luckily, getting a smooth patch in preparation for application of the texture is the hard part. If you don’t like the texture you apply, wipe it off with a towel or use a 12” drywall knife to smooth it out. I didn’t make a texture video but I’m sure there are plenty on RUclips. Good luck!
That video was very informative. I've got a ceiling patch that I'm doing, and with all the videos available and this one, I think I can do a pretty good repair. Thank you.
Thank you for making this video🙂. I've always been scare to make a hole on the ceiling, I want to find wood studs for my daughter's swing that she has been asking, before, every time my stud finder lights up I happen to ran into metal, I tried so many times even different directions and nothing, so I'm just gonna make a hole find a wood stud then patch the hole.
Do you live in a condo? Your home may have been framed with steel studs. You might also be hitting some square ducting. Cutting a hole isn’t a bad idea. You can also check by taking off a face plate to a light switch. The electrical box in the wall will be attached to a stud so you can peak at the stud there. Good luck!
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV thanks, I'll definitely try that. And yes I live in an apartment building and we are on the top floor, my other guess could be that I have only a drywall ceiling with duct or rafter ties, and then after that maybe a few feet above is where the structure of the actual roof is, and that's where I might find studs but if that's the case I won't be able to go further since I'm only renting. I appreciate you taking the time to reply🙂
My guess is that your studs are metal. If you have a cement building, I would guarantee your studs are metal. Unfortunately metal studs aren’t very strong. I wouldn’t hang a swing from them for sure and I wouldn’t try to anchor it to the cement either. That’s risky. Maybe build her a frame to hang the swing from?
I’ve never been good with drywall, mud and paint and you’ve encouraged me to be better at it as I do need to run wires and I have no way of dropping from an attic and need to go “rogue” from the inside of the finished wall.
I’m determined. Thanks. Subscribed.
That's what made me learn. I had to run wire and figured I better be ready to patch some holes. Thanks for watching!
And this is why I love RUclips. Just done my first ever patch , and absolutely chuffed with my effort. Thanks.
I have no idea what chuffed is
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV
It means "so pleased"
This is the clearest video for the beginner who must work with a ceiling patch. I like your ad lib commentary, especially the part where you make a mistake (on purpose or by accident)-- then point it out, saying "don't do this". That trial and error helps us learn more quickly, because we have seen what not to do, and we can avoid making the same mistake. Your audio is very clear and the subject is well lighted, with the camera exactly where it needs to be for the best "over-the-shoulder" viewpoint. Little tips like the type of mud to buy are actually very important-- the local hardware store has mud powder as well as pre-mixed, and you clearly do not need the powder. You prescribe 15 or 20-minute mud, which saves us the guesswork. As you point out frequently, the steps you take are based on experience, which (often) is the best teacher.
Wow! What a great compliment. Thank you very much!
I'm now retired but did home remodeling for years... just about every job I worked on needed some kind of patch work... when I was done you could not find the hole I patched, whether it was an old electrical outlet or switch to 4 foot holes in ceilings... I used to do what was called a "California patch" which is very similar to what's being done here but with a bit less work... my patch work was stronger than the wall around it... needless to say home owners and landlords loved my work and I got most of my jobs by word of mouth alone
Is this the patch you’re talking about?
How to patch drywall or lathe and plaster ruclips.net/video/UIES4bnzeCI/видео.html
I used your technique to repair ceiling and side wall sheet rock damaged by pex pinhole leak. The end result was near professional finish. Even I couldn't believe it. Your presentation was clear and simple - Good job and thank you for posting.
I love hearing these stories! Thanks for letting me know!
Thank you Alan for your demo video of how to patch a hole in the ceiling. The plumber cut a hole just like the size on your video but an odd shape like a kite. He has to see where the leak is coming from the upper bathroom. It was fixed but he will not patch the hole. He did not give me back the cut drywall. Instead of calling a handy man, I saw your video.
I did not put a backing. I don't have tools and it will be too much for me. I put a thick cardboard and it really fit the hole. I put the nylon mesh tape and applied the mud 3 coatings sanding every application. There's still a little hump but not noticeable unless you really look at it. I don't want to put another patch because our lower bathroom has glass door and the hole is above the end of the bathtub. I was patching it sideways not like you. I will just apply paint. I am 98% satisfied with my first patching job.
Thanks so much. I saved some money.
YES!!!!! I love a good victory story.
I hope this will be helpful to you. 1st. Throw thoes sticks away. Forget the screws. Now lets start over. First, when you cut the hole, cut with the blade at an angle to wall or celing. I try to cut at a 45 degree angle. Now the patching. Mix up some 5 lite and spread it on the 45 degree edges of the patch and hole. Now, push the patch in the hole. Trowel smooth. Last, use a tile sponge to wet sand. Put the spong in water. Wet sand with the abrasive side. Rince spong as needed. Now, sand smooth with soft side of sponge. Rince and sand as needed. Been doing it 40 years.
So cut the drywall at an angle, butter the edges of the patch and insert again. Trowel off the excess that squeezes out, then smooth over with a sponge while still wet mud. No need to sand after dry now? Then just paint?
@@Purifiedinfire yes you got it. Good luck.
Thanks for this video Alan. I'm a truck driver but I try to do as much stuff at home as I can. I literally had no idea how to fix a hole in the ceiling. Anyway, I watched this video a couple times and followed as close as I could and my ceiling came out great. The mud part was trickier than I thought. Took a few more coats for me to get it smooth. Don't underestimate the mud step people.
Sweet!!! I love hearing these comments. Thanks for watching!
Alan: you're a gangster of skill and your teaching method is genius. Thanks for taking the time to put this together! GREAT work.
Glad to help and thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great tutorial. The humor thrown in makes it fun to watch too. Great job.
Thanks for watching!
Probably the best patch video I have ever seen. Informative, clear and “spot on”.
Probably the best RUclips comment I have ever seen. Spot on!
I'm a begineer in plaster ceiling, this video makes me a bit confident in patching plaster ceiling
You're gonna do an amazing job and you'll be surprised at how easy it is
Thank you for this. I’m so glad I found this video. I was one of those people that thought you had to cut stud to stud.
I used to think the same thing. Thanks for watching!!
I find it much easier to make a square cut and use a "California patch."
why?
@@BigKeithDogwhat’s a California patch?
I love this guy’s energy. The Emeril of home improvement.
I love YOUR energy! You’re the Rachel Ray of RUclips commenters.
Alan Clegg Oh my heart! Thank you for being a day-maker. :)
What you did wrong? Nothing. Here's what you did right:
1. No 30 second intro. Waste of friggin' time.
2. No music. I have a radio. If I want music, I'll turn it on.
3. Moved quickly over the steps, quickly reiterated important steps.
4. Emphasized steps that were critical and steps that were non-critical. Very important.
Possibly the most watchable how-to video I've seen, and I've seen 100's if not 1000's.
I've patched dozens of holes in drywall, still managed to pick up some pointers.
Very well done.
Wow!! Great feedback. I really appreciate it. You’re the best!
@@tonyd4346 For the complainers, if you already know better, why are you watching? I'm a painting contractor and I know I can always learn.
That English Bloke With MS Yes , there are a ton of terrible videos. I’m appreciative of them all for taking the time to make them for whatever their reason. He did do a great job. The winded complaining somehow nudged me. We all have our moments. Cheers!
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Excellent! This is the trade skill that I'm very weak at. You make it look easy, I'll have to study your video again for this weekend when I install ceiling fans with no attic space. GReat work Alan!
Thanks for watching! I hope it turns out awesome!
Alan... last year I had a leak in the bathroom upstairs that damaged the ceiling in the spare room downstairs. After the plumber left, I spent a whole day patching the ceiling. Looks like crap. LOL. A month ago I had another leak upstairs that caused damage to my living room ceiling. Plumber fixed the leak, but I have a hole in the drywall in the ceiling. I have been wanting to call a contractor to fix the damage, but I knew it would cost more than it should. So I have been inspired to attempt to patch the drywall myself. And if it works out, I will redo the patch in the spare room.
Thanks for making it look less daunting.
What kind of texture is on the ceiling? Good luck!
Thanks. Planning to do it this weekend. The texture is like your ceiling.
Thanks to your video, it turned out great. It only took me two coats of mud, and the worst part was the waiting as it dried. I let my wife do the texture and she did a pro job. Just need to paint it tomorrow. Thanks again, Alan.
Awesome! I love hearing of successful repairs!
Thanks for your very informative and easy to follow video. I have a ceiling patch resulting from a plumbing leak and your video gives me the confidence I need to patch it.
You’re going to do great!
We didn't have a power on the ceiling of the patio, and to bring it there I hired one electrician from a decent company "MileStone". He brought the wire there, but failed to cut the hole for the pan electrical box symmetrically, so the load bearing joist is going not through the center of that hole, but slightly shifted (not more that ~1/4"). The electrician attached the box not to the center of the stud, as a result, so the stud got slightly split, and the box itself was sitting on two #6 screws (~1.5") and one big (~#12-14) short screw on the end of the box. Maybe it would hold like that for couple years, but I like solid work, so decided to redo it. Not sure is it better to cut out the ceiling more (but then you need to patch it), or strengthen somehow the bottom of that joist in addition to the glue for wood "Gorilla" and pieces of wood I used with clamps to close the splits and unnecessary multiple holes the technician did. I would appreciate any opinion on the question: is it better to cut a bigger hole or just to strengthen that joist. The ceiling on our patio is from some kind of plywood, it is not drywall. Is it hard to patch it? Thank you for the great film.
Superb video. No background music is appreciated! I needed this refresher course. Thanks!
Sweet! I'm glad to help. I hope your patches turned out well.
After watching video then I am going to try and repair the damage to my sons bedroom ceiling caused by water damage. Never did much DIY before but trying to save money. Wish me luck :)
GOOD LUCK! You don't need luck though- it's easy! Thanks for watching!
Did as you had shown and really pleased with the result. Saved £££'s, thank you.
Installing a Meraki AP in my home and this video has helped tremendously
Sweet! I'm glad to help and thanks for watching
Really well done, man. I haven't patched for years, but your teaching style is so good that I feel totally comfortable now.
Thank you! As a matter of fact, I’ll be back in that room today patching new holes from a kitchen flood. Best of luck! You’ll do great!
Great video, thanks for posting. Also, at 1:03, I thought it was kind of funny that you put that piece of ceiling debris right back into the ceiling. 🙂
I hate to separate a family.
My method/system is mainly for repairing holes walls but can be used for ceilings with a slight adjustment so here is my smooth and Flush hole repair for any size I have a way to patch a hole from under an inch to over 6” that will allow you finish the repair totally flush. So less sanding means a quicker repair that will be impossible to tell after painting. You will be applying the “mud”within a couple of minutes starting the repair. The fiber insert means less mud use and help keep the mud from sliding down.
My smooth and flush dry wall hole repair is by far the fast, easiest, cleanest way to do the repair. Oh and the wholesale cost to repair a 6” hole would add less than a dollar.
There’s more! if you use on of my wall diapers price would go up but clean up is faster and easier ending with a cleaner then before you start. In fact a lot you probably have these in your house now
Thank you
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Such a good ceiling patch method! I once had some guy say to just use ductape and paint over it. You get it done and get it done right! Keep it up!
I've seen worse. Thanks for watching
This is what I was looking for. Thank you. I had already thought about putting the wood up there, but I couldn't figure out how to secure the patch to it. Thanks man.
Glad to help!
As a drywall pro...I have seen many DIY videos...great vid...but one thing a tip...... when using 8 in or more drywall blades bend the outside edges in...so to make a little hump in the middle...
Thanks, Alan. You make this look easy, so now I'm less nervous about DIY repair.
You’re going to do a great job!
So that's how its done. When the HVAC guys put the unit in the roof space they cut a hole in the ceiling to install it. Now I have a hole and the drywall that went in it. Great video lesson so I can fix it.
You’re gonna do awesome! Good luck and thanks for watching.
What makes the job easier/better is to feather out the edges with a damp sponge. Let the plaster dry out a little then smooth out the edges and feather out the edges with a damp sponge. Makes a big difference to blending and reduces the need to sand.
Great tip!
Excellent help.
Thank you for no background music so we can hear what you are teaching us.
Glad to help and thanks for watching!
Great video. The only patch I have done so far is what was called a California patch. Worked okay but your video helped me understand that patches seem to be easy. I won't be afraid to cut a hole and patch it in the future. The problem I usually have when doing this type of work is finding the paint that exactly matches the previous paint. Good job!
Thanks fir watching. Getting paint to match is the worst. I always clearly stated painting was not part of the project when I was bidding jobs. If you’re not careful, you’ll end up painting the whole house.
Is this the patch you’re talking about?
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@@AlanCleggYouDoAV You're right. And I have.
This is the best easy patch ever
You’re the best ever!
Nice job, I’ve been wanting to add recessed lighting in my home theatre for a couple of years now. Thanks for the video.👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Here’s a little more advice for doing lighting. Get a rough idea of where your lighting will go and find all the studs in the area. Then adjust the lighting locations if necessary. After you locate the studs you may find some locations to be brutally difficult to pull off. Knowing what you’re up against ahead of time is a big help. Good luck!
Good job but next time dont put the screw at your mouth and talking.
I repaired a 5x7 hole in my garage ceiling and used thick paint sticks as a backer. I taped three sticks together for 1/2" thickness. It worked well.
That’s creative. Once the mud dries, it is strong enough to hold up a small patch anyway so that backing will be fine.
Seems to be holding up well. I only applied two coats of mud since the garage is unfinished.
Thanks for making a somewhat tough job easy. I was planning on hiring a drywall person to come in to repair a patch but because of your video I’m gonna do it myself
Sweet! You’re gonna do great! Then charge your buddies dinner to do theirs.
Alan I’m dealing with a huge hole in my ceiling because of water damage from a leaky pipe. Unfortunately I live in an old rent control apartment and the workers they hire are idiots! So I’ll show them your videos before they start the job. Period!!! Thanks for making this informative video.
Hahahahaha! That’s awesome!
Using the 1xs to make it easier to put up the patch helped me a lot.
Cool! I wish I could take credit for making it up, but someone taught it to me years ago.
Great tips and you are freakin hilarious! I literally laughed out loud with that comment about the 25" drywall knife
YOU are hilarious! Thanks for watching!
Good job bud..I'm a plaster by trade but I do so many drywall patches on the side..you well hit on the money on drywall patch the only difference is I do it all at once including paint..I use a heat gun at every coat keeping me on that patch 100% without walking away till done..patch like that takes me around a hour tops ...good job your patch advice is dead on ..👍✊👊
Thanks! I picked up most of this advice from drywallers on the jobsite.
Thank You for the video. I've never done this before, but now I'll try to fix a 12" dia. hole in my ceiling (from an old wood stove pipe) using your video as a guide.
How did it turn out?
You did an excellent job! And, I appreciate your awesome attitude! Your attention to detail made it easy for a woman like me (I never do stuff like that) to surprise my husband and make his load lighter. Thank you sooooo much!!!!
Best news I heard all day! Glad to help and thanks for watching!
We have skip trowel and had to do a patch. Best way is to thin out the mud some and then spread a few random clumps over the area. Then just skim it with the knife. Comes out beautiful in one shot.
That’s good advice. Thanks for watching!
I did a ceiling patch today about the same size as this one. I had to use a stir stick because it was the only piece of scrap wood I had in the garage. It actually worked perfectly but I did pre-drill it so as not to crack it.
That’s a good idea!
Great video. Fond memories of my time working in New York. I will say, I always preferred to use a hawk. Thanks for posting.
Fantastic video! I have to repair a ceiling hole from a light fixture in the bathroom. Going to get another longer drywall blade thing and a bucket like you have. It's time to step it up away from the pre-mixed stuff. Thank you for making this video!
Glad to help! If you're like me, you'll use those tools a couple times a year to fix minor patches around the house. (I have rough kids that break things). Good luck and thanks for watching!
Dude, you just saved me $200. Easy fix, thank you!
Sweet! Glad it helped you
Can't wait to give this a shot man thanks. I have to wait until my new roof gets installed 1st, slow leak on top floor ceiling caused the drywall to warp. it'll continue to get worse until the leak stops
You’ll do great! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for this video. I found it to be very helpful. I'm installing a ceiling fan in my bedroom but I need to make another hole about a foot away from the original light fixture hole to make it even and to hold better with the new fan mount. I'll be patching the old hole in the ceiling. I know nothing about patching holes in the ceiling but I'm pretty good with following instructions from how to videos. :)
Awesome! A follow up post would be great to know how it goes. As a side note, you can get a small, thin (1/2"), round box for ceiling fans instead of using fan brackets. They are called "pancake boxes" and since they are only 1/2" thick and your drywall is 1/2" thick, you just cut a round hole right below your joist and attach the box to the joist directly. Since the box is as thick as the drywall, it will sit flush. It's a faster, easier, and stronger way to do ceiling fans. The box is wider than the joist, so it will overlap the joist by an inch or two allowing you to run the romex (electric cable) into the box without issue.
Alan Clegg. Thanks so much for that tip. I ran into one of those pancake boxes for the first time a month ago, and I can see the labor saving benefits it provided to the contractor. Unfortunately, my customer had purchased remote control fans - there was no room to squeeze the receiver and all the extra wires into a 1/2” box, or so it seemed. That was when I learned the benefits of push-in wire connectors. They require much less space than the usual wire nuts and made the impossible possible. Thanks for a really great video on patching holes - I can now undertake projects that scared me off in the past. CML
Alan , Well done. Very informative video. I have a water leak stain in my bedroom ceiling and all it requires is a bit of drywall tape and the mud to repair it. I do believe after watching your video that I can do it. Thank you for the lesson...............
You got it! I’m glad it helped and good luck on your patch.
3:06 99 people. haha. Best mudding video I've seen yet; and it didnt have 6 parts that take an hour to watch. thanks!
Thanks!
Great advice and super proud of myself for completing my first wall repair thanks to yourself 👏
Nice work! Glad to help
Nice
Never realized, so much to learn in Drywall, mud, etc. Gonna try 20 minute next time. I used premixed on current patch. Took me 4 days lol.
20 min mud is a life changer.
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Thank you for making this video. I've never had anyone teach me how to fix things around the house and I had a hole just like yours and I can't wait to fix it now that I see how to do it and it looks a lot easier than I thought. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching and let us know how it went.
It went perfect I wish I took a picture to share with you but it looks really good the only person that can see it is me. thanks again.
Awesome! Glad to hear of your success!
Good explanation. I’ve been patching for a long time. I like to to do a third coat with pre mixed topping compound - sands easier. Two coats of 20 and a third coat of topping but whatever works for you.
That’s good advice! Thank you for that
The best drywall patch instruction I have seen, Thanks.
Thanks! You’re the best.
I use fiba fuse fiberglass tape and black and green bucket pre mixed mudd it takes longer but I can usually coat it later on in the day. I work as a commercial electrician and I’ve never seen them use bag mudd unless filling in holes
You wouldn’t use bag mud on a commercial job. They’ll lay down boxes and boxes of mud in a day then come back and sand it a week later. This technique is just for patching small holes from start to finish in the same day. Thanks for watching.
Search out the "California patch" I started using these for drywall patching a while back during new cable pulls & rewires... The results are really good.
I’ve used the California patch a few times. You’re right. It is very helpful. I actually made a video on how to do them. Check it out and leave some feedback.
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I really like your attitude man.....I work in the HVAC industry and working with people like you is a true blessing and makes going to work fun! Good job!!!
Thanks! I enjoy working and it makes it more fun with a positive attitude. I bet you're a fun guy too! Thanks for watching!
Good teaching and training. I love the humor. Thank you
Well you’re awesome!
Great work, well done!!! Thanks for those ideas. I'm new with this. I've never done this, but I'll with your tutorial. Looks so easy. Thanks, God bless you and all the other great people that are open to give knowledge. God bless you all.
Thanks for watching. I'm glad these videos are helping people get their projects done
I like how you blessings the people's with GOD
Alan Clegg
Doesn't anybody know the blowout patch? Let me see if I can make this simple
Say you cut a Hole 12in x 12in like he has up there in his ceiling. Cut a sheetrock patch 2" bigger than the hole you you are repairing.
Turn the patch material over, face down and on the back measure 1" along the outside edge on all four sides, scoring only the back paper and the gypsum but leaving the front paper intact.
Then snap the gypsum and peel it from the front paper. So in effect what you made is a drywall patch that is a 12 x 12 gypsum plug with 1 inch tape all around all in one piece.
Butter up the paper edges, carry some on to the edges of the gypsum, press the patch into place, trowel smooth the compound from under the paper edges then finish taping as you would any other drywall repair.
What I like to do is make sure the gypsum remaining on my patch is slightly bigger than my hole repaired, that way the patch holds itself up without sagging and allows to push the patch slightly further-in, past the surface leaving a slight indent which then can be filled as you tape to assure there is no high spot in your surface.
A high-end Builder I worked for when I first broke in in the 80s had bought a house on a property he was to subdivide and a complete renovation of that house was the first order of business. In the kitchen the cabinet floor plan was changed therefore the 20-odd high hat lights were to be repositioned with the existing locations patched and repaired but otherwise the ceiling was left intact.
His tapers always gave him the best price so part of the deal was the carpenters would patch all the holes and they follow and tape.
The old guys threw me in there because nobody wanted to hassle with 20+ down light patches. But with this blow-out patch I had learned from a remodeler I worked under one year, I made quick work of it
I used a drywall Circle cutter and made patches 2 inches larger in diameter than the hole, flipped the patch over, set my circle cutter to the hole size plus 1/8" and scored that Circle. Scoring the gypsum around a circle required a little more hand work than a straight line, though if your patch material is fresh drywall the gypsum is easily released from the paper making sure the back of your paper "tape" is completely clean of any bits
The tapers appreciated my efforts to make their job easy by eliminating the need for them to run any tape themselves, and I did not have to set the patches. I put them in a box on top of the Rolling Baker and they came by on their stilts and affected all the repairs.
So it's no bits of wood, no screw gun, no sheetrock screws ripping old paper or cracking old gypsum near the edge your hole, no fiddling around up above the ceiling or behind the wall. It even works on a plaster repair in a pinch .
So there you have it... a blowout patch... a plug and paper tape all in one go and a couple of coats of compound and voilà you're finished
Everything I ever learned in the trades and almost everything that I finally know now has been handed down to me or picked up by me as I walked through buildings under construction noticing the details of how things are put togethet
There's no course to take and not found in any books this knowledge has been passed along for generations, over hundreds maybe even thousands of years. This above anything else is what I loved about my life working in the Building Trades
I think that this method is called the "California" patch. It is quite effective, if you can plaster it nicely.
That’s an appropriate name! I learned it while living in California. Thanks for watching.
Really easy, thanks. Better than sub filling with fixall and topping with wall joint cmpd....less messy or time consuming.
Thanks for watching!
Great idea for the use of wood to solve the "in between stud" issue, never thought of that! Awesome, thanks for the tips!
I wish using the wood backing had been my idea, but it wasn't. I was lucky to have a few skilled guys show me some great tips. Thanks for watching!
Thank you! We have a hole 🕳 now in our ceiling and I had no idea where to even start to begin patching it!
This is great tutorial video!
Thanks!
Great video with plenty of demonstration. That's the same way I do it when I have to cut out a wall job well done you'd be surprised at how many people do not know how to do that
Great video Allan, thanks. I think with your assistance my wife and I can patch a hole in our ceiling.
Awesome! I'm sure it will turn out great and you'll find that it's easier than you think. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe!
Exactly! I've used it a couple of times. I didn't do as good a job as the video did but paint helped. I'm sure I can do better in the future especially after watching your video today. Thanks again.
Awesome! With even a little practice, you'll be shocked at how good you get and how easy it is
Awesome video from scratch to finish! I'm now confident in my ability to patch drywall! Thanks Alan!
You got it!
Great video. Much better than the other ones out there.
Great job Alan. I'm going to do my ceiling
You’ll do great. Good luck!
Very helpful! I have to patch a 9"X11" piece in my ceiling. It's right up to the wall. I believe the texture is a "knock-down" so that will be a new experience for me to match the texture. But, the random texture should help disguise the patch.
If you dry sand the patch before applying texture, it will blend WAY better.
Great video Alan.Good workmanship.Almost nothing worse than a hole in the ceiling.Cant believe i put my foot through but repairs look good as new.Cheers.
Awesome! It’s a relief when it comes out well. Thanks for watching.
Im so ready to challenge a few holes in my rental property. Awesome video. Thanks.👍
Thanks for watching!
Your videos are awesome and your commentary is HILARIOUS!
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching!
This is exactly how I've been fixing drywall patches for about 18 years. I always talk people out of using those hot patches from Lowes and Home Depot. They're a waste of money.
Preach!
I have a ceiling patch about the same size that I’m going to finish up for tomorrow.
Very helpful. Thanks!
Awesome! I'm glad to help. Good luck!
If u put 5mm packers between the ceiling and the support battens and fix the battens as shown then fix the cut out as shown you should be left with a 5mm difference between the existing ceiling and the patch fill it in as shown in the video and finish as shown to a level finish then there is no need to put the tape around ( in England this is called scrim)
Great tips that almost no other videos mention: apply pressure on the border to smooth the mud, mix your own mud for costs and better consistency. These should really help my next project.
Glad to help! Good luck with your project.
Even better than using tape is a caulking gun around edge with fast drying liquid nails. Then you only need a tiny amount of mixture to level out. Quick sand then it’s flawless
Like your positive attitude and reckon you’d be a good teacher at a school! Thanks for sharing buddy.
Thanks! I like your positive attitude too.
Wow you make it seem so easy. Good work and thank you so much.
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One of the most well explained videos and entertaining I've seen thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Alan,i like your ceiling job lots.esp the putting in your own studs.
Thanks. I wish it was my idea but I was taught by an old time drywaller.
Protip: Buy Sheetrock 45, add warm water and a bit of salt. The salt and warm water will cause the joint compound to set up faster. Then it's 5 minute mud.
That’s clever. Never heard of that one before. Thanks for that
Very informative and well presented as well as enjoyable to watch. Thank you Alan; this is a great DIY video. You have a great speaking voice and you are very charismatic.
Thanks! Glad you like the video!
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Thank you. This will definitely help me on my first ceiling patch.
Awesome. You'll do great! Thanks for watching!
There's another way that I use and that's to bridge the hole gap with a piece of plasterboard and stick it down using the wet plaster and then screw the patch to that, finish plastering as you demoed.
Sounds like that would work too. Thanks for watching.
Thank you. I have a potential repair to do myself and this is the exact type of tutorial that I was looking for.
Sweet!! Glad to help
another tip would be to use a sponge to float out the edge of your patch to blend it in
That's a good tip!
Funny and informative without the filler. Thanks to you, I did AV!
Haha! That's great! Thanks for watching
Thx Alan. I'm ready to patch my ceiling now. I also have that same textured ceiling. :). PS Love your sense of humor
Glad to help!
Great instructions. I followed them exactly as described and it worked perfectly. Thank you!
im a girl and my boyfriend punched two holes in my wall ...and i rent this place so i was so scared to ask my landlord to fix it and this helped so much ...very informative video and you made it so easy for me to do it ...now that i know how to do this it makes me want to fix ither things lol
lizamairy valle I hope you got rid of the holes and the boy friend!
get a new boyfriend
Dump him you can do better.
first its the walls, then its you......leave that little girl
Find a real man like me. Very handy in every way.
After seeing your video I have the confidence to fix my similar patch in the ceiling. But my texture is different. I don't know how to paint similar texture.
Luckily, getting a smooth patch in preparation for application of the texture is the hard part. If you don’t like the texture you apply, wipe it off with a towel or use a 12” drywall knife to smooth it out. I didn’t make a texture video but I’m sure there are plenty on RUclips. Good luck!
Good presentation! I liked your moving outlets and going through multiple studs video.
Sweet! Glad to help
That video was very informative. I've got a ceiling patch that I'm doing, and with all the videos available and this one, I think I can do a pretty good repair. Thank you.
This is going to be a huge help in my future home improvement/repair endeavors. Thank you so much!
Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
Great video Alan. I've always been scared of patching but after watching your video I'll certainly give it a go. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Alan, it's great to watch a skilled tradesman at work and helps us ordinary folk to make a better job.David Barber
We're all ordinary folk! I was just lucky to have an expert drywaller share his knowledge with me.
You make this so easy. I am due to fit a projector by myself this helps so much
Thanks for watching!
I don't know nothing about drive wall but this is correct to make a repair.
Hahahahaha! Thanks!
Thank you for making this video🙂.
I've always been scare to make a hole on the ceiling, I want to find wood studs for my daughter's swing that she has been asking, before, every time my stud finder lights up I happen to ran into metal, I tried so many times even different directions and nothing, so I'm just gonna make a hole find a wood stud then patch the hole.
Do you live in a condo? Your home may have been framed with steel studs. You might also be hitting some square ducting. Cutting a hole isn’t a bad idea. You can also check by taking off a face plate to a light switch. The electrical box in the wall will be attached to a stud so you can peak at the stud there. Good luck!
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV thanks, I'll definitely try that. And yes I live in an apartment building and we are on the top floor, my other guess could be that I have only a drywall ceiling with duct or rafter ties, and then after that maybe a few feet above is where the structure of the actual roof is, and that's where I might find studs but if that's the case I won't be able to go further since I'm only renting. I appreciate you taking the time to reply🙂
My guess is that your studs are metal. If you have a cement building, I would guarantee your studs are metal. Unfortunately metal studs aren’t very strong. I wouldn’t hang a swing from them for sure and I wouldn’t try to anchor it to the cement either. That’s risky. Maybe build her a frame to hang the swing from?
@@AlanCleggYouDoAV yes, that's exactly what I'll do. Thank you so much!🙂