Pajero vs Ranger Raptor OFFROAD Battle | Loveday 4x4 Adventure Park - Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2021
- The humble Pajero offroad, it is a beast, but against the Ranger Raptor offroad, the Ford Raptor looks good while doing it! We test what these two 4WD's can do. The Famous Loveday 4x4 Adventure Park puts the Mitsubishi Pajero and Ford Ranger Raptor to their limits.
2020 Ford Ranger Raptor- with all the standard mods
2008 Pajero. No lockers. 4H. Highway tyre pressures (just to keep it exciting).
See PART 2 - Pajero vs Ranger Raptor OFFROAD Battle | • Video
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Bloody hell the Raptor is so photogenic it looks like an Advertisement.
yeah man. they have a mean look about them at the same time. i like them.
I also have a Pajero love the details in video .. just needed more power otherwise she would have made it in the last round but still ❤️Pajero 👌thanks for sharing this amazing video
Thanks bro. Pajero can definitely hold its own offroad! 👌 Compared to other 4WDs that would cost you alot more for the same type of tech. its great value.
Probably with higher suspension and more clearance the pajero would have made it in the last part, great vehícule! So underrated
Doesn't it have rear diff lock?
I don't understand why you struggling that much.
I thought it was going pretty even Stevens until you tried that steep centre track 🤓 It’s a great advertisement for lockers, aye!
Great video, bud 😎🤙 The rolling gimble worked great 😊👍👍
Yeah for sure mate. This was all highway tyre pressures.. airing down would certainly have helped.. but definitely lockers would have done wonders.. specially with the little flex the Paj gets..
@@TabVentures Ohhhh 😯 I thought you’d aired down. I thought I could see a bit of squish but it must just have been the tyre going over a lump. Well, even more impressive then 😎👍
I was looking at getting an E-locker before I bought the boat. But now everything I think of doing revolves around said boat 🚤
Paj looks great mate👌👌
Cheers bro! She goes alright 🙏
sweet video!
appreciate it!
Hey mate, I also have a NS Pajero. Mines a 2007 vrx and I love the thing to bits.
Not airing down looks to be a lot of fun 🤙
Hey man. yeah even more so when you go 2H instead of 4H.. hehe. Having said that the driving is different because you need to compensate and give it more stick through sections..
Do the VRX comes with lockers?
@@TabVentures no mate, I don’t have any lockers. I haven’t made any vids yet but ultimate diesel made one about my paj.
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Hey Tab, always enjoy watching your videos. Is your TC working correctly or are you switching it off? It just seems like its spinning up the wheels that lift too easily and not figuring out quickly enough where to send the power. My Gen 4 also only has TC but I've found TC super effective in exactly this type of driving (best with slow and progressive throttle inputs). Sand not so much and I'd rather turn it off there. Maybe the ruts are just a lot bigger and the lack of traction all round makes it tough for the TC to decide where to send it. Cheers
Hey Jean, appreciate the feedback. There was a couple of times i turned the TC off for a bit of a play. The TC is always pretty good when used correctly.. And you are right on the money.. the Paj is best driven slow through uneven obstacles (most of the time) to allow max contact with wheels on the ground and TC to do its thing. i drove the car differently this trip (purely for something different) i didnt air down the tyre(as you will see more evidence of that in the part 2) and also drove it in 2H or 4H. didnt go down to low range. 👍👍
@@TabVentures Hey, thanks for the reply. Awesome, sounds like you guys were just having fun. Good to see how tough the Paj is. Have you broken a CV on it yet?
Can’t switch TC off in a Pajero. Only can disable ASC.
@@malikabey people make a mod to turn it off mate, but from stock your are correct
The Paj definitely needs the rear diff lock.
yeah mate. agree.
Interested to know where you in 4LLC and with aircon off ? it seemed like you were going to fast for Low ? also it would be ideal if you swapped that eliminates 4WD abilty great video also you need a 2inch lift :)
Was waiting for a "Bang" of some sorts ...
Then out with a Tow Rope .......
Man, you're definitely flogging that PAJ !!!!
Haha 😅 yep.. I was definitely trying to baby her a bit in some sections.. she needs a bit of TLC.
TC working much better in 4HLc or 4LLc mode sure ) and unfortunatelly locked rear Diff lock of P4 can`t help in all of this situations. Ranger have modern algos of usage "off road features" and I suppouse use TC even with locked rear. You hear about Vlads mod for P4 with rear locker? It keep TC enabled with locked rear.
Anyway great video! thanks )
Thanks brother 🤙
Hehe. Wow you drive it hard. I baby mine like its about to fall apart at any moment.
Haha. Don’t drive that hard all the time. I had to compensate with the air not being lowered and less traction on the climbs - with speed and momentum.
Raptor does have diff locker?? Your pajero really needs rear diff locker. Great video👍👍
Thanks mate. Yeah Raptors have the diff locks. Yeah totally agree, diff lock would’ve really helped here.
I thought the pajeros have a center Diflock. I have a 1997 nl pajero and it comes with one.
@@JJO117 yes pajeros have a center difflock, but it's not effective on diagonal situation, when differential is open type. pajero also sell with rear diff locker and it's much better
@@myfavmitsubishi2599 Ah ok cool good to know Im looking to upgrade from to an NP pajero or the NS.
Front wheel lift is the biggest hurdle in a unlocked paj
Absolutely. The best way to Drive a Pajero really, is to keep the wheel down and don’t drive as hard. Although I wouldn’t look a good video though 😂🤣
Like the look of the pajero what rims and rubbers are on it?
It's strange that some pajero (4th gen.) have better traction control than other pajero (4th gen.) from other videos I've seen. I have seen traction control working really well, even at a steep incline and 2 wheels off the ground from the front and rear but yours is not working really well or maybe that's the way it is. I don't know why it's like that but maybe it depends where it was built. I think the newer ones from 2015-present have better traction control but I may be wrong.
Hey Art, the TC on this gen 4 has always been reliable. I do find it is up to the driver and the way the car is driven. This trip i drove the car much more different to what i have in the past (maybe a review/comparison video on that is warranted). This time i've mainly stayed in 4H and didnt not air down.. which contributed to the tyres slipping etc. The Raprot with its Flex... also didnt air down, but his rear left tyre did have a slow leak which you will notice in some clips it is lower than the other wheels, that would have worked in its favour.
@@TabVentures @8.30 to 9.45 it seems your traction is not holding back any wheels at all, would be interesting to know if 4LLC with traction turned on, and slow and steady up that it would do it easily. Theres a few videos of my old NP doing vertical sand in creek area, coming to a near stop where I just ease into the loud pedal and let traction take up the slippage...
If Mitsubishi made a Raptor or Rubicon version of the Pajero/Montero oh boy would things be different.
Oh yeah.. I’d love to see that!
They did many years ago
The pajero evolution but very limited run
Excuse me sir , what the engine model of this parjero , 3.0/3.8 petrol or 3.3 desile?
Hey bro. 3.2 Litre. Engine code is the 4M41U version..
You relay have a wonderful skills, the stuck literally lead by the lack of lock and horsepower
@@fatpapercat4434 thank you bro 🙏. I wouldn’t go that far.. I just come to know how to drive it.. the Paj drives different to other cars 👍
Did you install another diflock or using stock on Pajero?
No diff lock bro..
Do you use same drive parameters? 4L no diff locks?
The Pajero was a little disadvantaged here. No Difflocks, where the Raptor was using his Diff locks. My tyres were also alot more worn than his and needing replacement.
@@TabVentures Ok, thats what I thought. The raptor was going too essy. Thx for answering! Love your content!👍🙏❤️
@@flankysixtyfour thanks mate! see you out on the tracks!
I would love to see a pajero sport there
Have a look, but I did another video with a Paj sport and triton at this same location.
Is the paj stock suspension wise, no locker but bigger tyres?
Not stock. 2inch lift, 32 inch tyres
@@TabVentures cheers. Looking at buying an nw model 2014. Good to see how they perform off road as we want to do a couple of remote trips in it. Was tossing up between a pajero and Triton but the pajero seems better being a wagon so little bit more secure.
@@sooksandsimba nice mate. Both models are great value. Give them both a test drive I reckon. With lift and tyres they both do well off-road. Personally, Paj for me though 🙂
@@TabVentures yeah had a Triton before and it was great. But think the 3.2L with the extra torque would be handy and the wagon would also be great. Guess I'll see what's around in the coming months. Cheers for the reply and great video
@@sooksandsimba all good mate. Good luck with the search. Other than that would be a bonus if you can find one with lockers.. the paj’s traction control is pretty solid, but diff lockers would be next level if you can get them.
Love the Pajero
Is that raptor double locked or just rear?
Just rear diff locks
other 4x4 pick up cannot surpass the capability of raptor ranger....raptor is like a crawling machine that's why i love this truck!
Yeah it’s a beast off-road man. I want one now ;)
@@rodolfobaliga7577 yeah true. The Ford Ranger raptor here in Australia has recently been changed to Raptor X. Can’t wait to see them in real life.
the raptor looks soo good off roading, i like this generation pajero than the sport one
Yeah I agree man. The sport is almost like a update outlander to me.
@@TabVentures the sport is an updated challenger
@@alexsallery bit more like a hybrid between Pajero/Outlander.
I'd still take the pajero over any ford product lol , but no seriously I have an 01 montero and it's a beast ,
Yeah bro!! i love the Pajero. It is a weapon!
It looks like pajero has not rear dif block. Did you turn off ASC?
No diff lock. Yes to ASC. But wheels were slipping due to tyre pressure and treads
@@TabVentures выключение ASC мне больше помогало на бездорожье, чем снижение давления. а если еще задний дифференциал заблокировать, это просто чудо)
Where's you roof rack from bro?
Google rhino pioneer roof racks 🤙
I have a stock Pajero with a rear differential lock that I drive from Europe to the middle east with lots off-road under relatively high ambient temperatures...I have seen lots of Fords or Chevies, yet having big engines with relatively high nice torques, they tend to overheat under load or make puddles of oil under the gearbox that is if nothing pops out......but for the Pajero ....reliability is amazing. Had anyone with a stock Pajero had a mechanical failure at some point during an offroad?
Very good point. They definitely punch well above their weight. 🦾🦾
Where do you drive from and to? Sounds like an epic drive.
Was the Pajero lifted? It just didn’t look like it.
Yeah just a standard 2 inch lift in this video
Not fair comparison old pajero, newer ones have better traction control and diff lock
Where is this place mate
Place called loveday.. South Australia 👍
saw the wrong way go back sign board at the end
The raptor is using BFg ko2?
Yeah they come standard with the car :)
Whats the engine size of pajero?
Hey man, 4 cylinder 3.2ltre diesel 🤙
Pajero king highway Star Dakar rally champion
🦾🦾🦾
Didnt find what the measure of Pajero tyres?
Hey mate these ones were Maxxxis MT762 in a 285/70R17
Exact size looking for my pajero 4.
Did modified for fitting just front wheels space??? Rear as i did read fits on its own
@@edasstockus1196 fit fine bro.. no rubbing under the guards with that configuration.. tricky part is the wheels.. need the rims to clear the big brake calipers.. the steel wheels I have are +30 offset and fits well..
my dream car ranger raptor
It is a sexy off-roader that’s for sure
Paj 3.2 DiD?
Yes sir 👍
@@TabVentures thank you!
I love raptor but it can not be a vs item when there is a real off-roader like Pajero. Yea if we are talking about utility truck thumbs up for Raptor but if the matter is off-road capacity we are comparing the king with a fancy neighborhood boy.
A question. Why don’t you let the momentum do it’s part ?
Some good points raised 👍.
Needed momentum as I didn’t lockers bro and traction wasn’t enough..
Pajero absolutely isn't king off-road - they are far from the best in fact.
Put good threaded tyres for Pajero... Then check.. or Pajero driver don't know how to use 4wd properly... 😂😂😂
Put a auto Lokka in the front
she NEEDS one for sure! You got one in yours?
You said you didn't have rear lockers??
Correct - no lockers mate.
High tyre pressure of pajero create problems wheel start slipping.
You are doing something wrong in that Paj. Loveday park is a easy track for a Paj mine never struggled once.
yeah i figured the same with Loveday. its as hard as you make it.. which is why i spiced it up and drove n 4H and full air in the tyres in this video anyway.
Was gonna say you can do all of that and more in 4hlc and climb a wall in 4llc haha
@@matschrepf haha yeah true. love the paj 🤙
Not sure what you’ve done to that poor Pajero but I’m sure you TC is not working at all.
I own a ns I don't have diff lock but you can't drive for you shit you give the mittsy a bad rep. You need to send it Dakar rally champions for a reason
Man thats not how you drive a TC equipped vehicle. I cringed every time I was hearing 'need more momentum'. What was needed in most, but not all cases, was less momentum and less throttle. TC does not really work well/at all over anything but a crawl. Just go at a slow walking pace into the wombat holes and add a little throttle if needed when wheels start to slip and dont back off too soon as sometimes it does take 3 or 4 seconds to figure it out. Do that and it would go through 90% of that stuff real easy. Also with the added benefit of not risking snapping a CV.
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Absolutely agree with the above .. however i didnt air down for this trip to see how the paj would go. Doing so creates alot more wheel slip - and driving style becomes different. TC on the Paj is one of its biggest strength on climbs.. (weakness in sand).
Kinda poor comparison, as the POS Ford has a rear locker which makes a world of difference.
Pinoy?
Possibly 🤙
Pajero is the King 4ever.
🔥
Pajero is the winner
💪💪💪
So sad the American Paj has the stupid TC system, and not a real rear locker like the EU one.
japanese suv im much better than american truck!
Paj is the best bro 💪
@@TabVentures yes of course 😭♥️ I'm having gen2 paj here in sri lanka 🇱🇰
@@dinithaw Very nice!!!
You must servis yours car, is not differencial you don't need, yours gearbox or engine absolutely lost power, I know what this tape cars doing only people don't servicing properly or servis where you bring yours car charge you but don't fix
I have taken diselike becouse there is not driver on pajero 4 . Mitsubishi pajero have been become recorder in gines book . With super select 2 . And very strong offroader.
Driver of the Mitsubishi don’t know how to use the momentum in this type of train you are not an experienced driver for this task