So… being an 80 series guy I got my eyes opened to how good a Subi is in the sand well over 10 years ago! White hills (WA) over taken by a bog -stock povo pack 96 imprezza on road tyres! The 5 young fellas in the vehicle pissed themselves laughing as they passed me like I was standing still 😂 Subi’s, Ladas, Sierras Can’t beat em
Love the 80s but the old power to weight ratio on the NA Diesels is pretty limiting on sand climbs. The stock Subarus are the best on sand as they are light. When you start bolting all the mods on they generally get less capable due to the added weight. Also love the Ladas and old sierras, pity so many of them end their lives rolling.
That's a brutal track. They do so well. I go to Kgari and Bribie Island all the time in my SH. They are so underrated. Great video. Howdy from Brisbane.
@@wolftiedemann-jh8wg sorry yes you are correct I always treat the two as the same given their proximity. I've only ever gone down Yeagarup and up Calcup. Bornholm is quite a bit harder than Calcup.
I've seen a 2.8 hilux winching the whole way up. Didn't look like a fun time. If you go with someone with some horse power who knows how to drive on sand then you can always use that vehicle as an anchor if you can't make it. It's a hard exit, but a driver who really knows what they are doing on sand should be able to get most vehicle up.
I used to regularly do the same climb in my old 1990 4 cylinder petrol Pajero. Now I have a 1998 LandCruiser Troop Carrier. The car is nothing. Tyre pressure and driver talent is everything. Overcool those Subaru engines too. They are a bit fragile.
@procrastinator1842 EJ25 motors are highly susceptible to warping of heads and blocks. They are well known for coolant and oil leaks from cylinder heads, premature head gasket failures, loss of compression between cylinders, premature main bearing wear due to warping, etc. I'm a fan boy of EJ20. EJ25 is not so good. I was disappointed in my liberty.
I guess experiences may vary. I still see a lot of old subarus on the road with 300, 400,000 km on them. And I reckon you are talking the turbo models. Let's face it. They are a lightweight engine and people mod them and flog them. We had a fleet of RS25 imprezas converted to rally cars here, I don't remember how many, but might be up to 20. They had lots of ks on them and were rock solid. The stock fibre gaskets need to be thrown out and a MLS put in its place. When the head gasket fiasco happened, a lot of cars had the same shit gaskets put back in them.
@procrastinator1842 A car that requires a routine head gasket upgrade is not reliable. They blow the gasket and warp the block. The turbo ones are more reliable because they have a better head gasket design. They made a high compression engine that made quite high cylinder pressure during combustion but did not put a metal gasket in. Toyota Corollas were using metal gaskets years before because they were designed for longevity. It is a very stupid failure mode and it points to a lack of research, development and real world testing. They blow head gaskets more frequently than nearly all of their competitors and the gasket issue was a money saving measure that was at the cost of the end user. They also repeatedly tried to blame end users for the failures instead of issuing a recall. It really hurt the brand image. As for using them as rally cars, of course you will. Where else are you going to get a moderately powerful AWD sedan that has been homologated for rallying? You will, of course, buy a non turbo Subaru and swap gaskets when it blows. Cheaper than an EVO. Like I said, I'm not a fan boy. I have a first generation Pajero with a 2.6L petrol engine that has over 500,000km on it and has been absolutely thrashed off road for 30 years. Nothing more than routine servicing. This does not mean that Pajeros are reliable. They are not. I just got lucky. I'm not a Pajero fan boy either. I spent too long in the car industry to believe the bullshit.
@@danielbeard2656 yeah the external leaks are a problem but once fixed they are good for life. Apart from that the NAs are pretty bullet proof. Turbos somewhat less so.
Classic "i'm an IDIOT" Then have nerve to say "classic" Subaru after totally destroying the engine like a complete IDIOT xD Now repeat that with any other car and see who will survive when you go flat out at 5mph for a mile it seems.
@@vihreelinja4743 Head gaskets are pretty classic failure points for EJ25s and they had been leaking externally for some time already. Slapped some new gaskets in it and she is good to go again. Think the rings are getting a bit tired now after 300k km of abuse, but she is still going strong despite burning a bit of oil.
Heaps of cars cop that and dont blow up, we have had corollas, falcons, Commodore bush hack that live on limiter and we have them for years. Subaru engines are terrible, don't try say they aren't
@@DarrenBoxhall to be fair there is a pretty big difference between sitting at the limiter at what is actually a pretty low load condition and sitting just below the limiter at 100% load for prolonged period in 40 degree heat whilst travelling pretty slowly with one stuffed thermo fan. Not saying they are the best engines but head gasket failures are not unique to Subarus by any means. And given the fix was new gaskets and a head skim it's hardly a major failure. And it drove 5 hours home and commuted happily for the next few weeks until I got around to repairing it.
@SubaruOffRoad I'm not saying sitting on limiter doing nothing. 40+ summers, boggy sand, gravel, skids. All day long. They run for years. Never blew a head gasket, only tyres and radiator hoses and radiators. Oh, and dragging huge logs in 40+ heat holding foot too floor at 6000rpm. No problems. Subaru engines don't get made fun of for blowing head gaskets and transmissions for no reason
So… being an 80 series guy I got my eyes opened to how good a Subi is in the sand well over 10 years ago!
White hills (WA) over taken by a bog -stock povo pack 96 imprezza on road tyres! The 5 young fellas in the vehicle pissed themselves laughing as they passed me like I was standing still 😂
Subi’s, Ladas, Sierras
Can’t beat em
Love the 80s but the old power to weight ratio on the NA Diesels is pretty limiting on sand climbs. The stock Subarus are the best on sand as they are light. When you start bolting all the mods on they generally get less capable due to the added weight. Also love the Ladas and old sierras, pity so many of them end their lives rolling.
Hi guys from Greece. Definitely a demanding exit! It was like" If you loose momentum you go down with me "situation 😉
That's a brutal track. They do so well. I go to Kgari and Bribie Island all the time in my SH. They are so underrated. Great video. Howdy from Brisbane.
Greetings from Russia! First snowy days in my region - polishing the turns.
Never let a radiator hose get in the way of good old limiter bashing
Best bornholm video I've seen :)
@@jamieh4x4 cheers!
Sounds like Russell Coight Narrating😂
Haven't got anything on old Russell! 😂
legend looking at getting a subie for similar tracks
The old Nissan Terano in auto is pretty impressive in loose dry sand.
Legend mate
Great, looks a little more tricky than Yeagarup?
Quite a bit harder than Yeagarup. More chopped up so lockers come in handy. Sand is probably a bit more powdery as well
Yeagarup is easy. CALCUP is the hard one
@@wolftiedemann-jh8wg sorry yes you are correct I always treat the two as the same given their proximity. I've only ever gone down Yeagarup and up Calcup. Bornholm is quite a bit harder than Calcup.
I think you are right…Calcup wasn’t one to try with a low oil level!
As a local to the region with a super capable chassis with a super uncapble motor i really wamt to get the balls to attempt this!!!
I've seen a 2.8 hilux winching the whole way up. Didn't look like a fun time. If you go with someone with some horse power who knows how to drive on sand then you can always use that vehicle as an anchor if you can't make it. It's a hard exit, but a driver who really knows what they are doing on sand should be able to get most vehicle up.
I used to regularly do the same climb in my old 1990 4 cylinder petrol Pajero. Now I have a 1998 LandCruiser Troop Carrier. The car is nothing. Tyre pressure and driver talent is everything.
Overcool those Subaru engines too. They are a bit fragile.
Fragile? How so?
@procrastinator1842 EJ25 motors are highly susceptible to warping of heads and blocks. They are well known for coolant and oil leaks from cylinder heads, premature head gasket failures, loss of compression between cylinders, premature main bearing wear due to warping, etc.
I'm a fan boy of EJ20. EJ25 is not so good. I was disappointed in my liberty.
I guess experiences may vary. I still see a lot of old subarus on the road with 300, 400,000 km on them. And I reckon you are talking the turbo models. Let's face it. They are a lightweight engine and people mod them and flog them. We had a fleet of RS25 imprezas converted to rally cars here, I don't remember how many, but might be up to 20. They had lots of ks on them and were rock solid. The stock fibre gaskets need to be thrown out and a MLS put in its place. When the head gasket fiasco happened, a lot of cars had the same shit gaskets put back in them.
@procrastinator1842 A car that requires a routine head gasket upgrade is not reliable. They blow the gasket and warp the block. The turbo ones are more reliable because they have a better head gasket design. They made a high compression engine that made quite high cylinder pressure during combustion but did not put a metal gasket in. Toyota Corollas were using metal gaskets years before because they were designed for longevity. It is a very stupid failure mode and it points to a lack of research, development and real world testing. They blow head gaskets more frequently than nearly all of their competitors and the gasket issue was a money saving measure that was at the cost of the end user. They also repeatedly tried to blame end users for the failures instead of issuing a recall. It really hurt the brand image.
As for using them as rally cars, of course you will. Where else are you going to get a moderately powerful AWD sedan that has been homologated for rallying? You will, of course, buy a non turbo Subaru and swap gaskets when it blows. Cheaper than an EVO.
Like I said, I'm not a fan boy. I have a first generation Pajero with a 2.6L petrol engine that has over 500,000km on it and has been absolutely thrashed off road for 30 years. Nothing more than routine servicing. This does not mean that Pajeros are reliable. They are not. I just got lucky. I'm not a Pajero fan boy either. I spent too long in the car industry to believe the bullshit.
@@danielbeard2656 yeah the external leaks are a problem but once fixed they are good for life. Apart from that the NAs are pretty bullet proof. Turbos somewhat less so.
The audio levels are so low it's almost inaudible.
Thanks for the heads up. Sounds fine on my phone. Curious what device you are using?
@@SubaruOffRoadsounds fine to me. Must be his problem...
Tyre pressure for the climb?
Probably around 5psi on the light truck at and 10 on the road tyres
Go you good thing.done better than some big name brands of 4wds
Leave them( Subarus ) on the beach to rust out before they get to become another landfill problem ........ Absolute JUNK !!!!
Classic "i'm an IDIOT" Then have nerve to say "classic" Subaru after totally destroying the engine like a complete IDIOT xD
Now repeat that with any other car and see who will survive when you go flat out at 5mph for a mile it seems.
@@vihreelinja4743 Head gaskets are pretty classic failure points for EJ25s and they had been leaking externally for some time already. Slapped some new gaskets in it and she is good to go again. Think the rings are getting a bit tired now after 300k km of abuse, but she is still going strong despite burning a bit of oil.
Ej 253s running non mls gaskets are bound to pop eventually
Heaps of cars cop that and dont blow up, we have had corollas, falcons, Commodore bush hack that live on limiter and we have them for years. Subaru engines are terrible, don't try say they aren't
@@DarrenBoxhall to be fair there is a pretty big difference between sitting at the limiter at what is actually a pretty low load condition and sitting just below the limiter at 100% load for prolonged period in 40 degree heat whilst travelling pretty slowly with one stuffed thermo fan. Not saying they are the best engines but head gasket failures are not unique to Subarus by any means. And given the fix was new gaskets and a head skim it's hardly a major failure. And it drove 5 hours home and commuted happily for the next few weeks until I got around to repairing it.
@SubaruOffRoad I'm not saying sitting on limiter doing nothing. 40+ summers, boggy sand, gravel, skids. All day long. They run for years. Never blew a head gasket, only tyres and radiator hoses and radiators.
Oh, and dragging huge logs in 40+ heat holding foot too floor at 6000rpm. No problems.
Subaru engines don't get made fun of for blowing head gaskets and transmissions for no reason