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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- In this vlog we make the long journey from Horton on the K and A, to Pewsey. We have a lovely cruise and take in the stunning scenery, but then it all goes wrong when we meet the angriest boaters we've ever encountered. They don't like wide beams and they made sure we knew it. (Footage at the end of the vlog!)
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"Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." as the saying goes.
Wise words, Matthew
arguing with a fool is like wrestling a pig in mud. You both end up getting dirty, and sooner or later you realise the pig is enjoying it
Mark Twain quote
My partner and I have been on the canals for 40yrs between us and the mood has changed so much in that time and not for the better. CRT are now trying to make money as a charity & they have overlooked the basic needs of the average boater, they have improved the towpaths to let cyclists wizz down at a terrific rate & left the vegetation for the wildlife (ignoring the need to moor up). There are far more folks living on boats now who are not true ‘boat people’, in the past we helped each other out and were a community, now there is a new breed of anti-social behaviour which is spoiling it for those who genuinely care for the waterways. It’s a sad reflection on how society has become
There are good and bad in all walks of life but it seems to have got worse since lockdown
yes agreed -thats why i moved off the canals
@@morrislouiseeagle7161 . We are still on our boats but now moored on the River Nene in a beautiful quiet spot. Wishing you all the best 🦆💕
@@pamcullen537 best place in the world -tucked away and nice and safe xxxxx
@@pamcullen537 we moved into a house in the lake District 😂
That was just one of life's 'smile and wave' moments. At least you can sail on to happier encounters whilst he is stuck with himself and all the unpleasantness that is bound to accompany that fact. Some people are just nasty little tossers and there 'aint no cure for that nor is there any reasoning with them. Happy cruising.
Next time we will adopt that policy, for sure
@@WeirontheMove The best thing to do in that situation is be friendly and not let them get to you.
It drives them insane.
I see you've met obnoxious Corwen, we had dealings with him a while back, i am so sorry you were subjected to that abuse, we love your channel by the way and have just subscribed.
It seems he is known for this, Leah
'Corwen' that figures...
"We're going to hide the gentlemen's identity"
"Oh hey its Corwen!"
Corwen Broch. Oops - damn. Supposed to be a secret, right? Oh well - that’s his name anyway: it’s out there now!
So is he infamous?
you don't seem to have done anything wrong. You are perfectly entitled to be on that canal. I agree don't identify them on here, but i would report them to the police and CRT.
Gi Andy, we are going to leave it until we make the return journey to see if he has simmered down. If not, we will name and shame
Reading the comments it would appear that quite a few people have had a run in with him. Why not all get together and lodge a complaint with the police and CRT. He has no right to abuse people, if you had rammed his boat , then maybe. But looking at the footage I can't see you doing anything wrong. Him following you is intimidation. If he's not checked this will escalate.
Hi guys.. think you handled this individual with dignity and more kindness that he showed you! There is ALWAYS one isn’t there 😱.. hope Julie’s fingers are healing well now, was lovely to see you the other week.. catch up soon xx
Hi Sally, Julie's fingers are healing fine. Catch up soon
We would've even gone back to re-shoot the gobs***te to make sure it was right 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Us RUclipsrs are definitely getting some abuse, some days it's just not nice out there and it's getting worse 😔
Great to see you both at Crick xxxxxx
Too true. We got another tongue lashing a week later, from another boater even though we were helping refill a drained pound
Foxes Afloat, you wicked pair, absolutely agree with you…..
He can't sue you. Unless he's some kind of high standing member of the security forces or a child. He's definitely not. Show the video, so other viewers of your channel know who to avoid while on their boats
We will keep his face covered for now but if it happens again we will name and shame
@@WeirontheMove You guys are too nice.
I agree he should be shown! What’s wrong with naming and shaming, too many people get away with being twats!!
We have had dealings with him about four years ago on our narrowboat, we know Corwen and his girlfriends name and quite a bit more, he is obnoxious and aggressive, he should be named and shamed and reported to the CRT.
@@WeirontheMove I think that is a good policy. Hopefully enough of him is identifiably by those they know and they are sufficiently shamed to stop misbehaving. I dont generally agree with exposing bad situations to the infinite entire world for a finite incident. I just posted a situation I was in where the other people were 100% convinced I was a complete pile of excrement when in reality I was completely innocent and was trying to do a good thing for them. This was before phone cameras. I'm convinced if they had cameras they would have recorded me and posted me on the internet with abusive language, a completely fictitious account if what happened and everyone who watched would have assumed I was the horrible person and they did the right thing to immediately shame me forever on the internet. When I was actually innocent and was doing a good thing.
You should put it up, let him sue all he likes, he does not have a leg to stand on. Watch black belt barrister on youtube he has videos on filming in public.
Absolutely, no expectation of privacy in a public place.
We'll check him out, Trev.
We didn't want to show his face but if he does it again, we will name and shame
This jerk must have had a really bad day to be so filled with hate and spouting his foul mouth. Would certainly not spend any time on his boat with him. He would be quick to abuse someone. You handled everything with dignity. Personally, if Anyone should be reported to CRT it should be him. What he did was harassment and he should reap the consequences of his actions by being fined or restricted to using certain canals. Just saying.
We doubt the CRT would even look into it. They are so stretched financially, they don't have the staff, Sue
You should have just laughed at him. They sound like a pair of idiots. You were very placid. I'd have thrown him in the water. As for suing...public place. He wouldn't have a leg to stand on. What a knob!
I think that given the boat he was in, it was definitely a case of boat envy.
We will never know
So when this happens again you put on your top hat and tails, bust out your Unukalhai, contact the piano boat and then call three other friends that also have wide beams, and you all converge on his location . Position your selves so as to confine him and his wife. and politely say " Oh sorry we did not see you , your boat is so small,,, we are here for 14 days due to covid" then give him a nice loud concert ."TOOTLES " I am sure that the piano boat couple would love to give a concert.. "Fantasy Impromptu" would be a good choice nice and loud........lololol
CCHHEERRSSS
Or we gather a flotilla of wide beams and Moore opposite offending him with our size
So sorry you had to go through this unpleasantness. May God bless them and keep them far from you and other wide beamers.
Keep them far away from all boaters, Robert
Lithium helps most, some it doesn't. Yep, smile and wave - smile and wave.
He needs more than lithium!
I imagine Mr Nasty is a very sad individual , his remark about a floating apartment shows a degree of jealousy. Guess you can't win them all. So many nice people on the cut no doubt make up for his tantrum. Lovely to see the hounds doing so well. I think your boat is about the same size as my little Welsh cottage , I hope one day to find such a boat , looks so homely. Hope your finger heals and is better very soon.xx
He certainly had a bee inn his bonnet about something, Patricia
Pretty sure that those moorings are non residential, so Mr Angry has the luxury of another home, even if a narrow….nothing wrong with them
Why hasn't the CRT dredged the canal to clear out the extreme reed growth? Re the altercation, it seems in keeping with the insane dissatisfaction and lack of kindness seen so often in the world today. Keep safe. You two have always been kind and pleasant and a joy to view.
The reeds are tasty though mmmmm
The canal needs massive investment to bring it back under control. The CRT just don't have the funds
@@WeirontheMove They waste our licence fees on stupid new logos!
There’s just no point trying to figure people like this out. I can’t even imagine any circumstance when I would lash out at someone like they did to you. Please don’t let these people’s actions leave a mark on you. Also puppies are so darn cute!
The puppies are cute, for sure, Kathy. Luckily, these incidents are rare, so we aren't too concerned.
'Some people are born crying, live complaining and die disappointed.'
Just pissed off and venting! You can't argue,, it like pissing against the wind.
That's true, Russell
Friend almost lost three fingers from those leads. Pins and tons of stitches. Has been two years. Almost back to normal!, glad it wasn’t that bad
They are dangerous.
What a horrible experience for two of the loveliest folks on the canal, who share their lives and experiences with us 🌟. I’ll certainly keep eyes open for D***e of Bri******er. He’s obviously a very sad, jealous person and for all his canal ‘knowledge’ he shows his total ignorance of the K&A , admittedly narrowed by a couple of years massive overgrowth of the reeds. There’s a number of canals with the same problem.
Meanwhile it’s great to see you both back with your lovely humour, and gentle ways. 👏👏 🌟🌟
We got well and truly rammed up on the Llangollen this summer by a hire boat, the 3 boaters moored where we were passing had been shouting at him to slow down and the poor woman in the Cratch was screaming!!! Hey ho. The happy days of boating 😄.
Sorry to see the poorly fingers, I hope you will be able to get them flexing again soon for your beautiful paintings 😃 💐 Joan
There's good and bad everywhere. The canals are no different
We left our narrowboat after just 11 months living aboard. Primarily for personal reasons but a small percentage of our reason, was that the boating community simply wasn't what it made out to be. The early narrowboat RUclipsrs made it out to be this great place where everybody is wonderful and helpful. It isn't pleasant, there are some downright nasty slefish individuals on the canals. Yes, most are great, but the small minority that spoil it are true rotten apples. I hope you've managed to put your experience behind you and fulfill your boating adventures!
We've only had three negative instances in 5 years, so we reckon that's better than on dry land. There are idiots everywhere, more so after Covid we think.
I was so sorry to hear of your misfortunes, especially Julie breaking her finger. That was a very nasty encounter, behaviour of that sort should not be tolerated and should be reported though I appreciate your reasons for not doing so. I hope you can put it behind you and ‘Carry On Cruising’. All the best Alan x
Hi Alan, it is all behind us and we look forward to the return confrontation with him with relish. At least he gave us some good content for RUclips. Enjoyed your Cosgrove episodes very much. All the best, Mark and Julie
@@WeirontheMove Thanks for your appreciation Mark, still a very unsettling incident for you. Take care both x
I wonder what is really happening in peoples’ lives that makes them so full of anger and hatred?
#BeKind obviously passed them by. You were right to show your footage and it’s a measure of the tolerant people that you clearly are that you didn’t show them and used the word ‘gentleman’ to describe the shameful individual.
Enough of that and I hope Julie’s fingers are healing - what a horrible thing to happen. I reckon that really she took a swing at the obnoxious pair and poor old Ernie and Bertie are taking the rap.
Best wishes x
Julie's fingers are on the mend. If she could, she would have clobbered them both
Perhaps he has come from a violent background like myself? We view the world as a battle ground where 'nice' people are anything but. Most would sue their own mothers is they could all for sake of some money. Never being loved or cared for makes one a cold person and we see a different world to the lovey dovey, nicey nicey where something inconsequential can ruin the day. I don't hate anyone, I just see most as being sheep to the slaughter as they blindly abide by rules and regulations, until the day comes when finally we are in a totalitarian nightmare, and all because they hadn't the stones to stand up to governments. Just saying. Nice boat.
He did use the word gentleman, but just go back and see Julie's reaction to that.
I have been going through Canal videos for the past week or so ,it looks a beautiful slow paced life .Just watched another video before this about thugs on the toepath ,which brought me here to view your video ,first one I have watched of yourselves .Personally I think you have done well by just moving on and trying to forget an unpleasent experience .I know you can photograph anything from a public a place ,but I am not sure wether canals is considered public or private .However I do know he cannot sue you for putting him on to RUclips ,but he can request that you delete the video if you dont block his face ,so you did the right move in doing that .But it is nice to see a perspective from a widebeam boat
There is good and bad in every walk of life, Terry, and luckily, 99% of people we meet are lovely.
Oh dear, so sorry you had troubles with that man. And, sorry about your fingers. Ouch! Take care and God bless, Gloria
The fingers were worse than the shouty man. All the best Gloria
So sorry that you’ve had such a nasty encounter. I just don’t understand why people are like this. I’m glad you are both safe and speedy healing wishes to Julie.
We're fine, thanks Terry
You are both such lovely people, and we really appreciated you sharing your home on a wide beam🙏✝️🕊🙏🇨🇦
Thank you so much!
There will always be the odd tosser out there looking to vent their spleen at a world who is at odds with their way of life. The odd thing is it’s normally these very folk who most of us find objectionable. Put it behind you. You’re nice folks and have every right to go wherever you want.
Thanks, Rick. At least we got some good RUclips footage
@@WeirontheMove sorry you were both upset by these silly people. We would have liked to see and hear the full version though. Missed Mark being his usual comical self! 😘
@@5581debdo1 He'll be back to his cheeky self next time
There's a well known quote by Mark Twain; ''Never argue with idiots. Anyone watching may not be able to tell the difference!''
That's a great quote
It's a shame that some people can be so abusive, you are perfectly in your right to enjoy the K&A as will we on our wide beam next year! I love the Poundland of RUclips, you obviously haven't seen ours haha 😂 love it, keep doing what you do :)
Hi Guys, we have seen every one of your vlogs. You'll love the K and A but your paintwork will hate it.
@@WeirontheMove I think Richard will be frantic with the paint brush! We will take the Poundland sale slot then haha 😂
You two are wonderful people.
Thank you
Well Mark & Julie what a shame that man was so rude! The puppies are beautiful and big! Thank you for your video!
Hi Helly, you are very welcome
Thank goodness the people you have met in the beginning of the vlog are pleasing to talk to. Enjoy the rest of your summer.🇨🇦
What summer? It's been a washout this year
We met some very strange types on the K&A. Perhaps due to ingesting too much white powder.
Bicarbonate of soda?
Back in the days of working canals, such disputes were usually solved by the loony getting a clip around the ear with a windlass to teach them to pull their neck in. Some of us are happy to continue as many traditions as possible, including that one.
Things have changed a lot. We live in a litigious society where camera phones make prosecution much easier.
Love your vlogs..
We're living in a very narrow environment sometimes on top of each other.
Hundreds of years ago When these canals were in good order,
(1895) unity had no issues travelling the Kennet and Avon.
But its a different story now.
We're now travelling an effectively broken system.
Battered bridge's and locks, severely overgrown. With reeds in some places reducing its width less that half.. !
Tempers get frayed..its inevitable. Happy crusing to all.
We understand that but we did nothing to provoke the abuse. It's not as though we fell out over an incident. We just stopped to let a boat pass under a bridge and they started. You are right about the state of the navigation. Unity would struggle today
@@WeirontheMovehope your both feeling ok now ?
you will always meet people like that,
And the littlest thing will set them off.
You will probably keep reliving it over and over again ?
but try to put it behind you, and it will fade.
Keep the vlogs coming...lol.
Ps We're on a very desolate Chesterfield canal lol.
Rich &Marina
Mark are you coping with all the chores and being captain aswel? 😬🤣🤩
Leather leads are the answer and a Martingale collar for training. Sometimes we as people make choices that are different then others, be still in your decision and ignore the ignorance of others. Show the joy of your magnificent journey. Know this you both are wonderful and appreciated. Stay strong and know your anger and offence is acknowledged and dissipated.
What a lovely thing to say. Thank you
Having lived in an American RV in three countries. I did find quite a few people that went off their heads for no apparent reason. In fact one bloke had a panic attack so severe l thought he was having a heart attack and got him hospitalized for night . Turns out his brakes were buggerd and couldn't cope .funny ole life. People think boats and RVs is a wonderful restful life ,but it can bring the worst in people as you know.
Hi Paul, there are idiots in all walks of life. It seems that manners and respect are in short supply these days.
Mental health is a thing. I've been an active Constant Cruiser for some years and I'd say this... while hire boaters can make mistakes they are (mostly) polite and respectful of the fact that they lack experience. CCers are also mostly chilled out. In my experience the problem children are bitter old boys living in marinas with bling boats and limited experience doing daft maneuvers to preserve their paintwork and over-stayers with life problems... over-entitlement has several forms. Widebeams aren't a problem so long as they navigate with caution... so well done you.
We think the type of boat isn't the issue, it's the person on it. We've found that this kind of behaviour is getting worse, especially since lockdown ended. Luckily, it's still rare at the moment. We find most hire boaters are lovely and we can forgive them more because they are newbies. It's the ones that know the rules and ignore them that are a problem. Ignorance is easily solved by education. There is no cure for arrogance.
Regarding his name he looks very much like a Mike Hunt to me , there's a few of them on the network.
Ah, the oldies are the best
You have absolutely nothing to worry about if you did decide to put the whole nasty episode on RUclips, the law is totally on your side as it currently stands. We do not have any right to privacy in a public or publicly accessible place whether we like it or not. Best wishes and keep on cruising (from a narrowboat owner 😉)
That's good to know. If he does it on the return leg we'll name and shame
Also awesome names for the dogs
Thanks Ben
Thanks for a great vlog showing your honesty and calm during a nonsensical attack by people that are allowed in the community because the mental hospitals were shut down, you both handled the situation well and should be commended (I think I may have had difficulty with doing so and would have asked him if he could swim). It's great to see the boys are doing well and I hope that your finger gets well soon Julie. Take care and all the best. Stevie
He wasn't the full ticket and neither was his partner. To get angry about our boat for no apparent reason is nonsensical. Still, luckily these incidents are few and far between.
@@WeirontheMove
As we say down here, "Missing a kangaroo in the top paddock" or "A sandwich short of a cut lunch"
a really nice and beautiful piece of the canal there ; beautiful untouched nature and quietness.
what a peaceful stretch of canal/land .
It is a pretty stretch of Canal. We love the K and A for the beauty
@@WeirontheMove yep , a lust for the eye ; a bit wild nature , but really beautiful and so quiet and calm.
by the way ...
RESPECT for your boating ! you are doing everything so nice , calm and slow.
nobody should complain about a widebeam when you are doing it so thoughtful, slow and calm .
I have just left The K and A, in fact We followed you back up the Caen Hill flight. We had a similar encounter with the live aboards you feature on your video coming into Honey street. A boat in front of us made a late decision to moor and despite already being in Tickover I put my boat in to reverse. The additional noise made some stick their head out of the side hatch and start shouting about slowing down, despite the fact that I was going backwards from tickover. Anyway an exchange followed with the persons partner joining in who was not even on the boat. Very similar pattern, very disturbing equally wrong. I witnessed several boats get shouted at. It is in my opinion the 'Shoutiest Canal ' Oddly the one thing the canal was not built for was to be moored against. It is designed with shallow sides for movement. I personally think there should be a license barring ASBO. You shout at boats you get your license revoked!
Was it the same couple, Mark? If so, that backs up a few other comments about them being well known for doing this
@@WeirontheMove no I don’t think so it was in the same area. Our shouters were as you entered HoneyStreet moorings coming from the West
Saying that canals are not designed for widebeams as if the boats weren't passing each other very closely back in the day 🤪
We think he was on a day out from a secure facility. Either that or he was part of care in the community
The angry man from Chasing Ducks moorings, by Ladies Bridge and Wide Water, does show himself to be a complete prat, being polite there.
We also have a widebeam, 10ft 6 “, I did comment to a truly huge widebeam, when we were near Woodborough Bridge, that he moved us far less than most small narrows! He laughed and said if people were in a hurry they should get a job in an office and pick up their pace of life.
Your self control is far more than I would have had in that situation……
We just move slowly along and mind our own business. Nick, and Julie, Sapphire in Steel.
Also shows how overgrown all is.
We think they wanted a fight that day and wee were the lucky candidates
@@WeirontheMove there are at least two widebeams on those moorings, one bumped into us the other day, when he stopped to say hello…
Unfortunately, people come in all different sorts….Mr Angry made himself look like a complete fool!
For a minute I thought it was going to be the B&B guests I once had (or didn't have, as it happened). They were an older narrowboat couple who booked during Easter as a "special treat" to get time off their narrowboat.
I had a new cylinder and immersion heater, but didn't know how to work the timer properly. They were so aggressive I was shaking a fumbling. In te end, I just took it off the timer so the immersion would be on 24/7, but it wasn't good enough for them... The woman had planned to have a hot bath upon arrival and this had 'completely ruined their holiday', as the water was only tepid and she didn't want to wait... Oh, that and the heating wasn't on when they arrived, so it was risking the man's health, because they would have to wait for the house to heat up. AND there weren't enough lights for him to read or them to see each other during dinner (even though there are lights in every room, plus multiple candles, a chandelier and two candelabras... in a cottage, which is actually unusually bright for a country cottage).
I was totally gobsmacked when they announced they were going and more so when they were able to bamboozle Airbnb into a refund. I lost the entire weekend earnings and cleaning costs. I usually bend over backwards and baby my guests - no matter how demanding - but that was way too much.
Put me off of narrow boating until now. Also why I raised my prices, sadly.
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Oh my goodness, the puppies are enormous! Nearly as big as Izzy! So sorry you had to put up with such horrible abuse. Hope your fingers heal quickly
The puppies are going to be the size of a collie, we think.
Some people have nothing better to do. Thanks for sharing!
You got that right!
You're far too nice a couple to heed this advice however, a friend who owns a canal boat once told me that when dealing with idiots like this, a quick prod of the blunt end or a swing of a barge pole tends to sort out most arguments, especially during winter when the water is rather cold.
We'll probably resort to that when we pass him again
Tbf you met 8 lovely people and two gits so the overwhelming majority are nice😀
Completely agree. We have made so many friends since moving onto the boat, Emma
Love watching!! We all have ran into people who are living a shi# life and want to drag everyone they run across into there misery. You are good people who didn't deserve to have your day upset by such nasty people. Go on knowing they are waking up unhappy people everyday and we all go on enjoying our friends and neighbors with the beauty that comes with treating people with respect. Troy
That's very kind of you to say so, Troy. Glad you enjoy the vlog
We have more than our fair share of those type of people here in the states. You both seem like delightful folks , so I've subscribe . Bon voyage , I look forward to checking out your journeys.
Awesome! Thank you!
He's got a ponytail! If you have his registration details report him then the authorities will be aware of his hatred toward wide beam craft.
Nothing would happen if we did.
Maybe no action right now. But if there is a pattern to his abuse then your footage would help authorities document the pattern of abuse. You never know. Contact the authorities to ask if they are interested in your footage.
Very relaxed vlog. I'm impressed by the difference between sailing a yacht on the sea and navigating on inland waters; The land is never below the water level.
Although I've also taken a Dawncraft aling the Kennet and Avon and experienced the marvel of seeing the canal continuing across the other side of a valley; So clever how the builders made the routes around the contours.
The angry man was obviously projecting his dislike of his narrowboat's restricted cabin width onto your lovely living space wide-beam.
The K and A is one of the most spectacular canals. That angry man had issues
@@WeirontheMove There's one in every three boatyards.
I'm sure there was no need to hide the chap's identity. Show the whole thing and shame him.
If he does it again we will
One thumbs up left as apposed to two fingers. Love the dogs....
Thank you
An excellent vlog - missed you guys!
Never mind the narrow pecker, he most likely had girth (and moustache) envy, which is probably the story of his life and explains his petty demeanor. I'm glad you gave him a tongue lashing. Next time, unleash the hounds!!
lol
We gave as good as we got.
Greetings from Canada!
Well, aside from the run-in with the Canal Clown 🤡I really enjoyed this video. So much in fact that I've subbed up and will stick around. Thank you for sharing your journey with us all. Cheers!
Thank you for subbing Mike. It's great to have a new face aboard
Whenever I see or run into people behaving like that all I can think is what an unhappy person they must be. Not that it would have stopped me from calling him out as you did, and rather nicely I might add. In the heat of the moment I might not have been as kind. Unfortunately, the saying "it goes to show you that people are the same everywhere" applies to the bad as well as the good. Of course life, no matter where you live it, is not always going to be idyllic, but still, sorry you had to experience that. Julie, hope your fingers heal quickly and you can get back to your beautiful art. Take care. The pups are looking good.
Hi Elizabeth, there are good and bad everywhere. We just happened to find a real star player in this one
I have to agree with Elizabeth. Life must be hell for those who go through it so unhappy. What little we did see, I get the impression this was not an isolated incidence in the life of the gentleman, but more like a way of life. These people are generally very miserable in their lives and very difficult to be around (pity his wife and family). There. That's my "homily du jour".
What a shame , please don’t let one person ruin your vibe. Everyone else you met in the canal seemed so lovely - you guys are too . Keep spreading your goodness
Hi Claire, we won't let him get to us. Life is still good and we love the boating community just as much as before.
Hi guys... the world is like the human body... we both need @#$*holes to survive... Happy cruising x
Hi Gary, loving your cruising vlogs. We always say opinions are like A**s*holes, every body has one. Well the angry Man certainly did
This was interesting because my husband and I are considering buying a wide-beam boat after sailing on a narrowboat week. I will show him your video. Thank you for being so open and honest. Keep up the happy sailing ❤️
Best of luck!
Oh dear me how unfortunate this incident was for you both I sympatise with you greatly,I recently had a road rage incident in our small town where the local council have installed numerous sleeping policemen and other traffic calming things.I was proceeding below the sped limit and was slowing further at each bump this guy was right on my tailSo I stopped and waved him to pass which he did at high speed ,he then hit the next bump bounced violently and lost control ending up in the ditch but upright as we passed my wife Called to him we've reported you accident and we drove on with me muttering "Yea There is a god"
I will admit the speed bumpsare a shade too hig but they are well signed.Hope you enjoy Pewsey we did as thats where we had my wifes family reunion in 2018 .TaKe care guys you and I both know that so many of both Narrow and Widebeam people are the salt of the earth and are so nice.
I think it's called Karma, Ralph. There are good and bad in all walks of life. It's what makes us all different, we suppose
What a hilarious story 🤣 😂 😆
Corwen Broch, sad but he's quite famous as you now know.
Smiles and move to greener pastures. At least he wasn't going in your direction.
Well, if he wasn't famous before, he is now he's been seen by over 75k people.
How upsetting. There were other wide beams on the video. Some people have mental health problems and take to narrow boating as a therapy! Love the doggies :)
Thank you, Jan. He was. just one of those people. Mind you, his partner wasn't any better
Nice to see you two again. Don't worry about it life is to short take care and stay safe. Thank for the vlog.
Thank you! Will do!
There is no shortage of feigned outrage in this world. As you told him, he should get over himself. Did you ever think of mounting cannons aft and stern? 😉
Pardon me: fore and aft!
Duly noted
It's a possibility.
You get a thumbs up you are showing an excellent videos
Thanks, Paul
Hi Mark, Julie... Yeah certainly been one of those weeks for you both hasn't it. Poor Julie's fingers and having to set up her stock one handed as it were and then meeting His Grace the Duke. Like so many others have commented what an absolutely awful angry individual. You obviously caught him at a bad time. Having said that, generally with people like that probably no time is a good time.. He was obviously confused as to what canal you were on. He was no doubt under the impression that you were actually trespassing on His Graces own personal canal further up north... you know the one I mean... The Bridgewater Canal.... take care guys, see you next time..
Very witty Chris. We definitely think he was confused
I think you should report that man to the CRT and send them the Uncensored clip, that is verbal assault.
Apparently, he's well known for this kind of behaviour
Hope your fingers heal quickly great vlog as always was so nice to see the dogs they look happy and healthy.
What an awful nasty man that was,but I’m a great believer in what goes around comes around
He will pick the wrong person one day who will probably give him a good thumping.
Forget him carry on as usual you bring a lot of happiness to your subscribers stay safe out there and keep laughing.
What a kind thing to say. Thank you
Good taste covering his face, but lawfully you can, its a public place. Starange folk out there, stay safe, and enjoy that lovely widebeam
The canals always look like such a peaceful place .
Just proves that bellends are everywhere.
couldn't agree more, although, they are seemingly everywhere at the moment
Well I think you handled that situation well. I feel sorry for the man he must have been having a bad day!! We never know what goes on in peoples lives to make them react that way, and he might well now feel horrified at the way he reacted. ( Or he might not). I find the best solution is to smile and leave them to it, as very often trying to justify yourself and existence only makes them worse. Hope your fingers are healing well.
We agree. Mark was screamed at a week later for trying to help a boater refill a drained pound and told him to stop being so unreasonable. it worked because he skulked off like a naughty child
Storm in a tea cup..Call it envy, frazzled nerve endings, wrong place wrong time, but when a man insists that his insisting is better than your insisting, nobody wins, apart for us gawpers who just love a good old gawp:)
Our channel is about our boating life, good and bad. It was probably a combination of all of the above
So sorry that you had a nasty encounter. That guy seems to have been primed to go for anyone and it just happened to be you.
That's what we think, Cherry
Hi both - I don't think he can sue. You can legally film anywhere your camera can see from a public place. You can even point at windows if you are in public. It's up to the subject to create privacy if they require it - ie draw the curtains, shut the hatch etc...you don't need permission to film in public under UK law.
We have been told similar by others, Ian, but we just felt it was worth obscuring his face. However, he is well known for this apparently because so many people knew him
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And lockdown seems to have made it worse, Leon
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Lovely video & made me feel good' Don't worry about the nasty man it's his problem not yours
We think he has multiple problems
I must say, you showed a remarkable amount of patience. If it had been me, I'd have been tempted to get off and deck the moron. Or failing that, chuck him in the bloody canal !! It's the first time I've seen your videos, but will be looking out for more. Meanwhile, happy and safe cruising to you both. Regards, a 39yr hire boater.
Hi Barrie, glad to have you aboard and happy hiring
Seeing his tiny boat - jealousy makes him nasty... Sad... Carry on regardless you lovely peeps and pooches... Safe journeys & huge hug from South Africa...
Thanks, Denny
We are sorry you had to experience such a nasty low life on such a lovely canal . We think you handled it really well and like to think we would be the same 😉
We stayed as calm as possible, given his attitude.
Interesting vid that says quite a lot about today's waterways - and how they are not, in reality a rural idyll.
We've lived aboard for about 30 years and seen quite a lot of changes - one of which being the appearance of residential wide beams. When we started the only widebeams were the working barges (now sadly gone). The canals, which may have been built for widebeams, had by long custom (both from working days then leisure) been used by narrowboats - so widebeams are in effect a new phenomenon (outside the northern waterways). People weren't used to accommodating boats over 7'.
To add to this, we've seen the gentrification of the waterways - and the sense of entitlement that goes with it. And this is found on both narrow and broad beams. Too many people feel the need to judge and that their opinion is more valid than others. Broad beams are often a focus of this as they are perceived as being more the preserve of the wealthy.
And there's also the ongoing issues of why widebeams paid (still pay? - dunno) the same mooring fees as narrowboats - and the fact that in places widebeams are venturing onto waters not designed fir them - such as the N Oxford between Braunston and Hillmorton.
As with most things - there's right and wrong on both sides. Frustration with widebeams is at times perfectly understandable - but that's still not an excuse for threatening behaviour.
It's certainly not acceptable on a broad beam canal built for wide boats. On that we agree. We don't pay mooring fees because we CC. In marinas WB boats pay double NB charges, so not sure what mooring fees you refer to. We also pay more for our license but traverse less of the waterways. We have never judged another boater but we have had plenty of judgement heaped on us, and to date every instance has been from a narrowboat owner.
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I'd not disagree with any of that. A jerk on a boat is still a jerk - just a floating one. I think my point was to try to show that there's a back story to this which gives it context.
When we first started the only boats wider than 7' we'd see were the gravellers on the Trent tideway and the tankers on the Aire & Calder. You'd hardly ever see the old wide boats even on those canals built for them, therefore for the generation of boaters post 1960s canals are experienced as being for narrowboats - so the arrival of broadbeams in the 90s has generated tensions that weren't there before.
Gentrification hasn't helped - and the perception that broad beams are for the wealthy, especially held by (let's be generous) "bohemian" characters like in your vid, feed the resentment. That's not to accept the generalisation, just to recognise it.
I think one of the things your video does illustrate is how attitudes and motivations on the waterways have shifted over the decades. The canals have always attracted "odd balls" like the nutter you met - and down south you have lots of people whose primary motivation seems to be their Boho lifestyle. An old boatman (and a few current ones on the Chesterfield Canal where we are) would simply have lamped him one and chucked him in - but in today's more genteel waterways, that happens less and less.
Likewise though - I don't understand why people would choose to live on a widebeam and rule themselves out of about two thirds of the system - including arguably the finest third. Perhaps you can't understand why we'd choose to live in a 60' tube for 30 years?
Overall I'm saying there's a historical backstory of differences of motivations and opinions - all which contribute to the waterways becoming a more gentrified and less pleasant place than it used to be.
That's not to seek to justify any threats or anything like that - just to recognise that the canals are like any other rural community and aren't the idyll so many people think.
What a week! First 2 broken fingers and then abuse from a mad man! You handled the situation brilliantly!
By the way, I think the sister boat to Unity was called Harriet.
You are spot on, Deepak, both in your assessment of our week and the sister boat to Unity
Mark & Julie....don't you think on this anymore as these types of people are not worth it. Negative energies is all that they provide and life is certainly to short for that. BTW....the dogs look great and full of positive energies! I always appreciate each and every Vlog you two put out. Thank You So Very Much Mark from Florida.
Hi Mark, the dogs are looking great aren't they. You are very welcome for the vlogs
The widest boat allowed on any given canal is the widest that can fit through locks on that canal. that was always the guiding principal of it. If anything it is boats moored up that are the problem (yes all boats needs to moor up) since originally the canals were purely for transport, the freight motorway of the day with parking only at wharves and basins for unloading and loading again.
You guys are more polite than I would have been and seeing as how you were so polite I strongly suggest you forward a complaint of harassment against him. The fact he pursued you along the towpath is proof that it was not a passing comment but was real harassment. He appeared to be too ignorant for his own safety and having such an empty head makes him like an empty can - the type that makes the most noise. Making a report would be good to help others too. Imagine a lone boater or maybe a couple of females or an elderly boater. This shouting could cause deep alarm that could lead to an accident. If this happened at work/in a park/in a shop etc a report would likely be made, so don't hold back.
As far as I understand it you can film in public and show that footage unless it includes young children.
Anyway, glad to see you are not letting it get you down. I hope the CRT do some real cutting back work along your favourite canal this winter.
Very well said. We doubt the CRT will do any vegetation cutting as they have no funds
Your assumption is not quite true - while the limiting factor is canal gauge (width) related to lock width (broad or narrow), the waterway profile is configured to allow 2 narrow boats to pass (in opposite directions or when overtaking). In a situation where a narrow boat approaches an on-coming widebeam boat, their comined beam (width) not only exceeds the width of 2 narrow craft bot also causes one or both boats to scour the profile of the puddle. It is for this reason that wide beam craft were banned from opertating further North than the Jam 'Ole becuase the canal profile and overall width South of the Jam 'Ole was constructed to allow lighter from London Docks to off-load / transfer cargo in this region.
Further to my last post, I therefore contend that while widebeam boats make for great accommodation, they should not be permitted to cruise on any stretch of the broad canals as their passage cause great damage to the profile as outlined in my last post. The only reason CRT permit them at all is revenue - simples. So, when cruising a widebeam boat you need to accept the fact that you will get abuse - it's no different to encountering a 60' artic and trailer on a country back-road - it simply shouldn't be there ! I know of at least 2 widebeams in my area that were craned-in on the pound between 2 bridges that neither of them can pass through - it's just a pity that the owners paid for them to have engines fitted ....
@@salandjim Do have a look at the history of the boats that were used along such canals - wide beams. If anything it is the mooring of boats along the canals that is different to what used to be the case. In the days when canal boats were all working boats they were only moored up to load, unload (so quaysides, basins etc) and late evening till first light to grab some sleep, allow the horse to eat and sleep etc. Without the multitude of boats mooring along the banks for up to 14 days at a time there would not be the narrow issues you are building into a claim to displace the boats that were always designed and built for such canals. Those mooring anywhere they please of course includes narrowboats for that matter, in fact since narrowboats are more numberous by far than wide beams they would be the ones clogging up the canals due to mooring anywhere they please. The canals all over the country were mostly built with locks as the limiting factor except a few such as the Huddersfield narrow where there are also a few bits where the cut is as narrow as a lock - though all for quite short distances. The point of the canals was to move as much freight as possible per vessel (so less boats and less crews to have to pay for). It is therefore clear that the canal boat companies would maximise width as well as length for any gven canal - and they did. If they could cope then, why not now? With engines and thrusters boats are much easier to handle than when they were pulled by horses, especially when passing each other so tow ropes had to be passed one over the other and the boat on the offside had to be careful not to get pulled over towards the tow path while the other boat was passing in between. If they could manage then so people can manage now. Your argument about displacement is strange since there is no data suggesting wide beams have a deeper draft than narrow beams.
Ah he’s just jealous your boats bigger than his, I’d just smile and wave as I pass by.
We will next time
Hi Julie and mark love your video’s been watching a long time keep up the good work live in Orange NSW AU hope to move to Scotland when covid leaves us I’ve got to kids living in the UK i want to buy a second hand wide beam to suit Scotland canals any recommendations will be appreciated love your work
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If you are travelling the Scottish canals, it would make a great vlogging channel
@@WeirontheMove Hi Mark & Julie thanks for prompt reply it will be another year before we can fly anywhere can’t wait to get there stay safe 🧔🏼
Scotland has the Crinan, the Great Glen and the Forth canals - all of which are disconnected other than by the sea. Probably not the best place for extended cruising... :)
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Hi Matthew Regards from down under I’m trying to find a decent canal map any suggestions will be appreciated cheers and stay safe 🧔🏼🥃🥃🏴
Ps do you live in Scotland?
@@sebastiangaudiosi7728 yes I live in Scotland.
Maps:
canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/canal-and-river-network
This is an interactive map:
waterways.org.uk/waterways/uk-canal-map
There is another map made by one of the YT channels (can't remember who off the top of my head).
Jealousy! He was just Jealous of your nice boat vs his! What a jerk! So sorry you both had to go through that!
He probably was
Good evening to you four, I wish you a good recovery, I watch a lot of vlogs and I unfortunately notice that there are more aggressive people on the cut, can still be a fool who thinks he is allowed everything and who likes to show like he is is silly and mean
You are so right Jean-Louis. People just seem more angry after lockdown.
I live in the US and this sort of thing happens here, too. It's happened to me personally numerous times. In once instance I was finally assigned a parking permit for the apartments I lived at in crowded DC, but they assigned me the wrong space. I'd come down in the mornings to see an orange sticker and citation. After a week of humiliation and annoyance they got it sorted and I got a proper spot.
A month later I arrived home from my job in theatre about 1am really tired. Someone was in my spot. Security offered to tow them. Of course I said no, if they are innocent like I was how terrible that would be. He went to get them. I waited half asleep in my car for 30min for them to come down to move. Nice. I parked.
Awkward we all walked back in general together and to make (now I know ill advised) conversation i noted that the security wanted to tow them and I said no. They immediately assumed I was attacking them and accused me of being just as bad "We saw your car every morning with tow stickers! You can $%#$^$ off! You are one to talk!" I said no, that was a mistake I was given the wrong parking spot "A likely story! You're just mad someone did to you what you did- " I said no, I'm trying to say I didn't want them towed-- but they would not let me speak. The entire way back to the building this couple berated me after I just saved them.
Something again happened in 2016.
Ugh. People are just abusive.
Nice to know we don't have a monopoly on this type of behaviour. There's good and bad everywhere. Our mistake was engaging with them
@@WeirontheMove Yeah. Problem is, once in, it's a sticky mess if your feelings get hurt. It's that feeling of being 7 all over again and the bigger childre are playing keep away. The only solution is to simply walk away but you don't think of that until far later. You thought it's your hat, you need your hat. It's my dignity. I need my dignity.
Even as adults we (surprise!) find ourselves begging for out hat back from some random bully.🙁
So sorry you had to put up with that loud mouthed pillock. Take care and stay safe.
Thank you, Victoria
Another great vlog…I look forward to each new episode 👍
Glad you enjoy them, Donna
I believe you may have stumbled onto a new source of revenue. You could become personal trainers for Narrowboat Curmudgeons. They get exercise by chasing you down the towpath making fools of themselves. I suggest charging in 25 meter increments.
Maybe we could tie a rope to him and get him to pull the boat like in the olden days
A very sad angry little man. Three years on the canals as a cc and I’ve yet to come across one of these
They are out there, Pete. Luckily, they are rare
Well well well...on a personal note I was becoming a little concerned 🤗...good to see you again and pleased all is well 👍...it sounds as if Mr & Mrs Holiday persons have anxiety prior to trapping themselves on a boat which will always exacerbate any problems. If you see them again please wish them a happy outcome with their forthcoming divorce...this will not happen...divorces never end well....you are allowed a quiet snigger...actually no...just laugh out loud 🤣🤣🤣
Something was bothering that day. Who knows what?
love your wide beam look forward to seeing more
Awesome, thank you!