To sum it up: The two cards are roughly in the same price category. The 7700XT has an overall better performance without RT, but if you want to play with RT in the handful of games where it's even remotely "worth it" (read: you get a big enough boost in image quality in exchange for the performance hit), you'd want a higher-end Nvidia card even at 1080p anyway. In exchange, it requires more juice than the 4060Ti. As for the on-board VRAM, it's kind of meaningless, as you're not going to be using either of these cards for 4k gaming, and 12Gb is already more than enough for 1080/1440p gaming, and 16GB is an overkill, but it's much better to have too much VRAM than to have too little. On a side-note: the 8GB 4060Ti version has been shown to cause stutters even in 1080p in games like CP2077 when using RT (the whole point why you'd want an Nvidia card) so avoid that version if possible. Overall, unless wattage is important to you (say, you have a 600W PSU, which is enough for the 4060Ti, but would need to be replaced for the 7700XT), the AMD card is better bang for your buck. However, you should research your local market prices first, as if you're lucky, you might just be able to get a 7800XT for just $50 more.
600w psu will do just fine for a 7700xt, it's only a 240w card, the 4060ti is around 180, so only a 60w difference for a card that's around 20% faster.
@@PineyJustice Eh, I'd personally err on the side of caution. A 600W PSU might be enough, theoretically, depending on the rest of the configuration and its power draw, but having at least a 100-150W overhead is, if not mandatory, at least very heavily recommended. It means the PSU won't be running near max capacity, so it will have a longer lifespan, which in turn reduces the chances of power failures that could brick the system, and while the 7700XT is a 240W card on paper, I've seen factory overclocked cards spiking as high as 300-310W, and I presume with manual OC, it could go even higher. All I'm saying is that, while these might be mid-range cards and will end up in mid-range systems, they still cost a pretty penny, and in today's economy, it's better to be safe than sorry.
@@Horvath_Gabor Even paired with a 13900k that's only 550w of power draw, a quality 600w psu will be just fine. Power supplies are specced to handle surge currents above their rating as well, a 600w power supply from a quality mfg should be able to handle surges and spikes 10-20% above it's rated wattage without issue. A quality powersupply is something every person building and maintaining their PC should be doing, a good PSU will last over 10 years. I put a 6950xt and a 5950x in my brothers pc with a ax760 psu and it's just fine, a 7700xt is going to use around 200w less than this.
@@aspartus_ I've heard AMD is generally more expensive outside of America because they don't have as large and efficient international supply chains as Nvidia.
@@joshuadelaughter Yes Its true, but High end is cheaper. Ofcorse nVidia have in Central Europe many main storage. In Czech we have Central building of nVidia
>Pays $500 for a console published 3 years ago >Pays 500$ or even more years later for a "console pro" version because console hardware gets outdated quickly, while a 500$ PC from 2020 ages well.
AMD clap the chicks out of Nvidia… To be honest, the biggest losers are 40’ series users, double the money for half of the performance… and they still thinks they are better… open your eyes… Thanks for the video bro!
Only card worth it is the 4090 but that’s if your super rich as the 7900 XTX beats the 4080 in raw raster 300$ cheaper fails In RT but its 300$ cheaper and RT is pretty ass in my opinion the reflections are nice not the lighting
not anymore lmao. 4060 ti all day now. cheap, more vram and almost the same performance with rt off and with rt on the ti spanks the crap out of the more expensive xt
So I’ve tried searching everywhere/ everything for a straight answer and I can’t find it, so I’m just gonna go with the 4060 ti because it’s what I want (because I like the founders edition)
Got my 7700xt for 380 Euros in Germany. Normally i wouldnt buy that because the 7800xt is just a little more expensive. For that price it is a no brainer.
Actually 7800 XT and 7700 XT are technically exactly the same chip, just with several cores and stuff deactivated in the „lower“ model. The performance difference isn’t high enough to justify paying any more than 50 bucks more for the 7800 XT in my opinion The 7700 XT is a great GPU for 1080p and 1440p gaming as is, though
hello brother, i want to change my pc and right now i am using a nvidia card and its 4 year old now. I am getting so many drops so thats why i want to change. Anyways my friends always telling me to not buy radeon card bc softwares, crashes, many problems that radeon card did to users. But i don't believe that 7000 series haves that kind of problems so do you have it? (sorry for broken english)
There are few games like The Last of Us, Ratchet and Clank and few others, were the diference in VRAM between those two graphic cards, is really huge. Why is that, can someone explain? :) Overall good video, thank you !
@@lhaceneleroux3863 Its not better, they just have a texture compression system whilst AMD doesn't use one. Texture compression leads to some image quality loss like all forms of compression does, so reality is, compressing isn't good, Nvidia has it by design to ship cards with less Vram.
Those two should play very nice together and you can find some good videos demonstrating the performance of 7700xt paired with the 5600x if you are unsure.
The games I play don't support RT, yet alone DLSS3, most games don't even support DLSS at all. Since I play 1080p or 1440p tops, any upscaler just makes the game look worse, especially in motion. (Yes DLSS2 as well), so no, I am not using upscalers since my games don't even support them!
@@YUSUF_UR its not a bad thing, its just more textures being loaded into the vram. you don't need to worry about vram unless if the gpu has only 8gb or smth like that
Do a Raytracing comparison, always, too. The 7700XT is as fast as the 4070, however it is priced like the 4060 Ti. So even if its raytracing fails compared to the 4070, it is interesting compared to the 4060 Ti. And since Nvidia cards obviously sell much better, this setting is obviously relevant, as there is no reason against it anyway.
Of course 7700 XT has more raw power, but makes no sense to not use DLSS on 1440p, there is no difference than native sometimes even better. The future is upscaling like or not.
Most games dont support dlss so most of the time you are using the raw performance figures and it isn't powerful enough for rt 1440p/1080p at this pricepoint the 7700xt is the winner 4060ti sucks and before you say i am fanboy my current gpu is rtx 3080
@@k1er4n544 Well, my case is a bit specific, here where I live the 7700 XT has always been around 25% more expensive than the 8GB 4060 Ti (yes the 8GB sucks and I wouldn't buy it) and the 16GB is practically the same price as the 7700 XT which is really bizarre and doesn't make It's worth it, I just got it because of luck on Black Friday to get one of the few 16GB units for the price of the 4060 non Ti. But I think you're wrong about DLSS, many games without support lol? Man we are in 2024, DLSS is already supported in at least 300 known games out there and it is practically a standard along with FSR so I say and repeat again, it makes NO sense at all not to use DLSS from 1440p onwards, the discussion about raw performance is not the same as it used to be whether some people like it or not, Nvidia's shares are reaching the Moon thanks to AI confirming this.
@@ricardofac47pero AMD también tiene fsr y aunque no se vea tan bien como dlss te dará más rendimiento Supongamos que el juego nativo la RX 7700 xt te da 100 fps Y la 4060 ti 80 fps Al activas dlss y fsr en calidad la diferencia de rendimiento en % se mantendrá prácticamente igual
@@AMDRyzen57500F i'm not against it, but amd gpus are not good at power efficiency. in long run it'll take more of my money slowly but sure. Even the 4070 take less than 200w and only $100 more expensive than 4060ti, just saying.
you're saying that 12gb of vram is not enough? no games in 1440p consume more than 12gb, if you really want 16gb of vram then get the 460 usd 7800 xt and it will kick the 4060 ti in the crotch and steal its lunch for only 60 dollars more
@@kosMelnik The 7700 XT consumes less than a 3070 in real tests, and a 600w power supply is recommended for the 3070. My question is why techpowerup recommends a 550w one.
@@Soimy RDNA 2 clapped Nvidia already ... when i take a look RTX 3000 vs Rx 6000 Series ... Nvidia draw more power at the same performance (better in ray tracing but the majority of games that are played have no RayTracing).
yah, you're better off getting the last gen 3070 since it still has nvidia's perks. its now 280-300 usd used and its going to perform the same, if not better than the 4060 ti
Hola compañero ... Es la rx 7700xt ... Cuesta un poquito menos que la rtx 4060 ti pero consume mucha energía ... Lo bueno que rinde un poco mejor que la rtx 4060 ti.
@@hassaanbinmajeed496 as much as I am for nvidia personally I'd take a 7700xt 8gb vram can work it can also be maxed easily and the raw power difference is massive unless you upgrade every 2 years or so take a 7700xt for abit more.
yes, ray tracing is amazing but not on a 4060ti. it's a feature that exists and unless you're completely crazy you're not going to use this actively here. so don't tell that's a point for nvidia, both cards sucks at raytracing
@@MrToastyYTIt was same price as 4060ti 16gb and its peforming badly for me im gonna return it for 4060ti 16gb i even tried reinstalling windows after ddu wipe stil having problems with pc freezing and fortnite is stuttering like crazy even on dx12 latest driver update and im getting lag spikes 5-10fps for like 30 secs its really bad also having problems on the last of us 1 when i launch it shaders are competely glithed and i have to restart and the pc complete freezes are making me furious also alt tabbing is really slow sometimes 15/20seconds i need to wait on amd card compared to my old nvidia card. I really wanted to like the switch to amd but i hate it didnt have any problems with nvidia before.
7700xt is pointless, when there is 7800xt for 50€ more. i would take one, but i am afraid of AMD drivers. Maybe i will try it, we will see, how will my 3060 handle games at 1440p.
60W for a 20-30% increase not really power hungry that’s the same efficiency roughly if you do the math maybe slightly worse efficiency but cards tend to get less efficient the higher you go up and more powerful
20% power increase with Rasterization which favours amd although both are good in their own unique ways I like the nvidia cards for dlss and better ray tracing capabilities. @@Qelyn
@@onion8109 I don’t use raytracing hardly at all i think in most cases it makes games look to bright and some games hogearts legacy its just bugged anyways amd still has fsr and usually has cheaper options that preform better apart from raytracing but yeah both have benefits
Its like buying a computer for a 1000 and running windows vista no hate amd's side but like dlss 3.5 is a thing now and raytracing is getting better in my opinion nvidia is better for a lot of uses.@@iczberkay47
why not? If you have a pcie x16 slot (haven't run into a mobo that doesn't have at least one of those) it will run. What CPU do you have and what is you psu? As long as those are not to old or underpowered you will be fine.
4060 ti 16GB 20% Lower Performance When Compared With 7700xt 12GB but Power Consumption Increases 35% DLSS 3.5 vs FSR 3.0 💔 RT Rocks If You Use It On 4060 Ti Drivers Conditions Also Great in Nvidia Side🎉 What Should I Pick RAW PERFORMANCE or FEATURE PACK
1. If you live in the US power consumption takes about 5 years to matter and make up the price difference 2. Unlike fsr 2 vs dlss 2, dlss 3.5 and fsr 3.1 are pretty much equal 3. While amd drivers used to be bad in the past, they are much better now and amd drivers being trash is mostly a myth nowadays 4. Ray tracing on this gpu is going to run very poorly on both sides due to the fact that while they aren't cheap, they are still lower midrange. Also raytracing is usually very easy to miss, and Is still very unsupported on many games I know you already probably bought your gpu already but I wrote this in case someone else is considering between these two.
Bruh comparing 2 different tiers its insane if you comparing for price then okay And ofc yes 7700xt is faster in raw power but if they cost the same i am thinking i choose 16 gigs and less power consumption 20 frames max difference is irelevantnfor me
yah, these insufferable fanboys keep buying each company's bad product. the 3050 and the 4060 (ti) are both incredibly bad value, but them fanboys still buy it. the 6400 and 6500 xt, despite also being as bad as the 3050 and 4060 (ti), still has people buying them...
Not everyone has that kind of money, though. Especially when you consider all the other components for the PC that you will need. If you get something like the 4060, you can literally build a Pc with it without having to skimp on the other components for the price of one 4070ti.
Badly optimized games are not a reason for buying MUCH more expensive GPUs... Not when you can play 1000s of other games that run much better on lower end hardware, and can give you the same or better experience. If some of those games are visual monsters where you go "wow, that really is a next generation game", sure, but lets be honest, from the recent game (Jedi, Starfield), there really is nothing spectacular or special about the visuals. The bad FPS is really down to bad developed games.
Yeah I think theyre both good in their own way but I just like being able to use ray tracing with a card that costs as much as my old pc and not have like 20 fps also dlss 3.5 is amazing
Amd has had rt support since last generation, ray reconstruction is only available in cyberpunk and requires you to have path tracing enabled and amd have made their own version of frame gen with it slowly being implemented in games. I’d say amd is definitely keeping pace since gpu’s like the 7700xt are selling for near the same price as the 4060ti yet being around 15% faster in pure performance, having extra vram, and getting closer in niche metrics like rt performance. The only major losses being power consumption (for this gen of course) and upscaling.
Good for you, but if you rely on dlss 3.5 to play ultra setting in 2023… how will it perform in the future??? This is why raw power is always the king in gpu for me.
@@Esmeranus1315 pt is rt but it is probably the next step for graphical fidelity and DLSS, or any upscaler, if implemented well will help lower/older hardware scale better for future games but I hope Frame gen doesn’t fully take off. We’re already seeing some games require some sort of upscaler to get playable framerates on even higher end hardware. Imagine if games eventually will require frame gen, something that already increases latency and other variables, to get playable fps
20% faster on average for the same price, yet you call it a big disappointment lol. Nvidia is slower at every pricepoint, and they're only like 10% lower power draw too. Also raytracing is like 10% faster on nvidia, they lose in vram and raster speed across the board, Also AFMF lets you turn on framegen in ANY game, nvidia needs it baked into the 10 games that support it.
@@krspy1337 hmm you didnt understand me. Pls firstly read about dlss or same kinda Tech. Raw perf mostly affect the for work or etc. I got a over 80 fps Rtx and full graphics cyberpunk with dlss with 2k no need to raw performance if you dont a caveman 😂
@@bugrahanteber4135 raw performance is the main reference of performance, otherwise it's all fake and not real (without the upscaling and interpolating frames)
@@bugrahanteber4135Nvidia completely brainwashed you, raw power is the real thing to be measured first, also, we should not use fsr or dlss for competitive gaming, it increases latency, native raw power is the best.
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To sum it up: The two cards are roughly in the same price category. The 7700XT has an overall better performance without RT, but if you want to play with RT in the handful of games where it's even remotely "worth it" (read: you get a big enough boost in image quality in exchange for the performance hit), you'd want a higher-end Nvidia card even at 1080p anyway. In exchange, it requires more juice than the 4060Ti. As for the on-board VRAM, it's kind of meaningless, as you're not going to be using either of these cards for 4k gaming, and 12Gb is already more than enough for 1080/1440p gaming, and 16GB is an overkill, but it's much better to have too much VRAM than to have too little. On a side-note: the 8GB 4060Ti version has been shown to cause stutters even in 1080p in games like CP2077 when using RT (the whole point why you'd want an Nvidia card) so avoid that version if possible.
Overall, unless wattage is important to you (say, you have a 600W PSU, which is enough for the 4060Ti, but would need to be replaced for the 7700XT), the AMD card is better bang for your buck. However, you should research your local market prices first, as if you're lucky, you might just be able to get a 7800XT for just $50 more.
Next time use better prompt generator 😂😂
@@ishaat_plays Wait, you think that was written by AI? Wow, the brainrot is real...
600w psu will do just fine for a 7700xt, it's only a 240w card, the 4060ti is around 180, so only a 60w difference for a card that's around 20% faster.
@@PineyJustice Eh, I'd personally err on the side of caution. A 600W PSU might be enough, theoretically, depending on the rest of the configuration and its power draw, but having at least a 100-150W overhead is, if not mandatory, at least very heavily recommended. It means the PSU won't be running near max capacity, so it will have a longer lifespan, which in turn reduces the chances of power failures that could brick the system, and while the 7700XT is a 240W card on paper, I've seen factory overclocked cards spiking as high as 300-310W, and I presume with manual OC, it could go even higher.
All I'm saying is that, while these might be mid-range cards and will end up in mid-range systems, they still cost a pretty penny, and in today's economy, it's better to be safe than sorry.
@@Horvath_Gabor Even paired with a 13900k that's only 550w of power draw, a quality 600w psu will be just fine. Power supplies are specced to handle surge currents above their rating as well, a 600w power supply from a quality mfg should be able to handle surges and spikes 10-20% above it's rated wattage without issue. A quality powersupply is something every person building and maintaining their PC should be doing, a good PSU will last over 10 years. I put a 6950xt and a 5950x in my brothers pc with a ax760 psu and it's just fine, a 7700xt is going to use around 200w less than this.
This is just embarrasing for Nvidia.
Funny is xD I my country 4060ti cost 9000kč and 7700xt cost 11000kč xd
@@aspartus_
In America they're about the same price, but the 7700 XT is occasionally a little cheaper.
@@joshuadelaughter Its nice 😂 In Czech republic HW shops know how 7700xt is better in FPS So they make it more expenzive
@@aspartus_
I've heard AMD is generally more expensive outside of America because they don't have as large and efficient international supply chains as Nvidia.
@@joshuadelaughter Yes Its true, but High end is cheaper. Ofcorse nVidia have in Central Europe many main storage. In Czech we have Central building of nVidia
Based on these AMD scores, the PS5 Pro and Xbox Pro are going to be super powerful. Wattage still kind of high though on AMD architecture.
True, but you can undervolt it, which funny enough gives you actually more performance
Xbox isn’t making another Console i think thats what they said as the Series X is basically there PRO and the S was there base model
Yea, leaks suggest that the pro will be as powerful as a rx 7700xt which is great. Fingers crossed, lets hope this is true.
>Pays $500 for a console published 3 years ago
>Pays 500$ or even more years later for a "console pro" version because console hardware gets outdated quickly, while a 500$ PC from 2020 ages well.
@@showdodocIs it possible to undervolt the 7700 xt to reach the same level of power consumption as the 4060 ti?
Damn those were some great benchmarks, well played sir.
AMD clap the chicks out of Nvidia…
To be honest, the biggest losers are 40’ series users, double the money for half of the performance… and they still thinks they are better… open your eyes…
Thanks for the video bro!
Only card worth it is the 4090 but that’s if your super rich as the 7900 XTX beats the 4080 in raw raster 300$ cheaper fails In RT but its 300$ cheaper and RT is pretty ass in my opinion the reflections are nice not the lighting
Wow, this RX 77000XT is spanking nvidia for the price
Ngreedia are also spanking themselves by overpricing
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@@MoAli-nv9cf
@@squad-kl3ek Because Nvidia price is sh*t
not anymore lmao. 4060 ti all day now. cheap, more vram and almost the same performance with rt off and with rt on the ti spanks the crap out of the more expensive xt
@@iequalsnoob 4060 ti with 8 GB is cheap and good? HAHA
So I’ve tried searching everywhere/ everything for a straight answer and I can’t find it, so I’m just gonna go with the 4060 ti because it’s what I want (because I like the founders edition)
A straight answer to what question?
Got my 7700xt for 380 Euros in Germany. Normally i wouldnt buy that because the 7800xt is just a little more expensive. For that price it is a no brainer.
Actually 7800 XT and 7700 XT are technically exactly the same chip, just with several cores and stuff deactivated in the „lower“ model. The performance difference isn’t high enough to justify paying any more than 50 bucks more for the 7800 XT in my opinion
The 7700 XT is a great GPU for 1080p and 1440p gaming as is, though
Sooo cheap man
hello brother, i want to change my pc and right now i am using a nvidia card and its 4 year old now. I am getting so many drops so thats why i want to change. Anyways my friends always telling me to not buy radeon card bc softwares, crashes, many problems that radeon card did to users. But i don't believe that 7000 series haves that kind of problems so do you have it? (sorry for broken english)
Could you send me one 7700xt to Poland next door? Here 7700xt cost 466 euro 💀
In Spain, a rx 7700 xt is at least 420€.. And a rx 7800 xt it's more than 510€...
If only 7000 series were efficient too... :(
There are few games like The Last of Us, Ratchet and Clank and few others, were the diference in VRAM between those two graphic cards, is really huge.
Why is that, can someone explain? :)
Overall good video, thank you !
Nvidia has a better texture compression algorithm then AMD
@@lhaceneleroux3863 Its not better, they just have a texture compression system whilst AMD doesn't use one.
Texture compression leads to some image quality loss like all forms of compression does, so reality is, compressing isn't good, Nvidia has it by design to ship cards with less Vram.
is ryzen 5600x with rx 7700xt is good and no bottneck?
Those two should play very nice together and you can find some good videos demonstrating the performance of 7700xt paired with the 5600x if you are unsure.
Don't be afraid of bottlenecks... I'm using 4080 with a 5600x LOL I'm wsiting for the 8800x3d
Every system has a bottleneck. It's fine. Different games run differently at different resolutions. Your system combo will be fine.
If you're trying to game at 4K for some reason, you'll get a bit of a GPU bottleneck. But for 1080 or 1440, it's a perfect pairing.
i also had the same question. did you go with this setup? how's the performance and power consumption?
The games I play don't support RT, yet alone DLSS3, most games don't even support DLSS at all. Since I play 1080p or 1440p tops, any upscaler just makes the game look worse, especially in motion. (Yes DLSS2 as well), so no, I am not using upscalers since my games don't even support them!
Aynen
Checkout the vram usage in both gpu
Amd is using more vram, is that a good thing or bad?
@@YUSUF_UR its not a bad thing, its just more textures being loaded into the vram. you don't need to worry about vram unless if the gpu has only 8gb or smth like that
@@AMDRyzen57500F ty
@@YUSUF_UR ofcourse it's a bad thing
@@AMDRyzen57500F nvidia loads a bit of good textures than and by using low vram so I guess both are balanced at their price factor
there is no bad cards, just bad prices.
Do a Raytracing comparison, always, too. The 7700XT is as fast as the 4070, however it is priced like the 4060 Ti. So even if its raytracing fails compared to the 4070, it is interesting compared to the 4060 Ti. And since Nvidia cards obviously sell much better, this setting is obviously relevant, as there is no reason against it anyway.
Of course 7700 XT has more raw power, but makes no sense to not use DLSS on 1440p, there is no difference than native sometimes even better. The future is upscaling like or not.
Most games dont support dlss so most of the time you are using the raw performance figures and it isn't powerful enough for rt 1440p/1080p at this pricepoint the 7700xt is the winner 4060ti sucks and before you say i am fanboy my current gpu is rtx 3080
@@k1er4n544 Well, my case is a bit specific, here where I live the 7700 XT has always been around 25% more expensive than the 8GB 4060 Ti (yes the 8GB sucks and I wouldn't buy it) and the 16GB is practically the same price as the 7700 XT which is really bizarre and doesn't make It's worth it, I just got it because of luck on Black Friday to get one of the few 16GB units for the price of the 4060 non Ti. But I think you're wrong about DLSS, many games without support lol? Man we are in 2024, DLSS is already supported in at least 300 known games out there and it is practically a standard along with FSR so I say and repeat again, it makes NO sense at all not to use DLSS from 1440p onwards, the discussion about raw performance is not the same as it used to be whether some people like it or not, Nvidia's shares are reaching the Moon thanks to AI confirming this.
@@ricardofac47pero AMD también tiene fsr y aunque no se vea tan bien como dlss te dará más rendimiento
Supongamos que el juego nativo la RX 7700 xt te da 100 fps
Y la 4060 ti 80 fps
Al activas dlss y fsr en calidad la diferencia de rendimiento en % se mantendrá prácticamente igual
Ok, now show us Cyperpunk 2077 RT on xD
RT is not for x60 owners
Lol both would get like 15 fps
230watt😑
230 watts power draw is acceptable for the 7700 xt, especially when the 7700 xt kicks the 4060's butt at the same price
@@AMDRyzen57500F i'm not against it, but amd gpus are not good at power efficiency. in long run it'll take more of my money slowly but sure. Even the 4070 take less than 200w and only $100 more expensive than 4060ti, just saying.
@@adamantoinain most countries power is very cheap so it would take around 5ish years to matter
Only 10% FPS increment across the board? Wait when VRAM becomes a necessity.
yeah like in 3 gpu generations from now
Only? That's pretty good for a GPU that's the same price. And 12GB of VRAM ain't gonna be the limiting factor on a mid-tier system.
wait in 2 yrs time when that 8-10 fps is what you will ask for to get you to 60
you're saying that 12gb of vram is not enough? no games in 1440p consume more than 12gb, if you really want 16gb of vram then get the 460 usd 7800 xt and it will kick the 4060 ti in the crotch and steal its lunch for only 60 dollars more
Do you think a good 600w gold power supply supports an RX 7700 XT and a Ryzen 5700x3d?
Better 700w
@@kosMelnik The 7700 XT consumes less than a 3070 in real tests, and a 600w power supply is recommended for the 3070. My question is why techpowerup recommends a 550w one.
wow it almost double the power consumption though while 20% performance increase, is it really worth it?
Si lo dices así parece mala opción la de AMD , pero en la boleta de luz la diferencia será mínima
the rx 7700xt can be found at cheaper prices and it runs cooler as you can see in the video so yes its worth it
unless ur psu is trash nobody cares about power consumption lol
Yeah it's worth it
4060 Ti 16gb cost $50 less compares to 7700xt In my country
then good, buy the 4060 ti
7700xt is more of a 4070 rival than 4060 ti both variants ngl
No it's not. It's the same price as a 4060 Ti, therefore it's a 4060 Ti rival. The names and tier are irrelevant.
@@joshuadelaughter I was saying that in terms of performance, but price was it's Def the 4060 ti
Hopefully RDNA 4 will save the day
Rdna 3 is clapping nvidia already tho
@@Soimy RDNA 2 clapped Nvidia already ... when i take a look RTX 3000 vs Rx 6000 Series ... Nvidia draw more power at the same performance (better in ray tracing but the majority of games that are played have no RayTracing).
@@SoimyYea but they need to improve on RT once they do Nvidia fanboys will have little to nothing to compare
@@Qelyn true. But dlss is good
@@Soimy
So is FSR. Not as good as DLSS, but still good.
хоть даже в 10 раз будет фпс больше у RX, все равно AMD никогда не куплю.
Ну соболезную тебе значит, чем больше таких безмозглых как ты, тем лучше
sad nvidia fanboy go cry harder
7700 XT be slaying 🔥
On Newegg right now the cheapest 7700 is $379 while the rtx 4060 ti lowest price is $449 putting it closer to the rx 7800 xt.
RTX 4060TI really good card, for gaming and 3D render
the biggest problem is price 😸
yah, you're better off getting the last gen 3070 since it still has nvidia's perks. its now 280-300 usd used and its going to perform the same, if not better than the 4060 ti
w/performance omg, amd not ecofriendly
160 and 230 watts isnt even that much of the difference, the 7700 xt is at least 10% better than the 4060 ti, so the extra power draw is acceptable 🤡
@@AMDRyzen57500Fno it's not acceptable 😂 it's barely any better
wait, why starfield on high looks so bad?? i just played ghost recon: wildlands from 2017 and it looks better hahaha
bethesda is doing an "amazing" job trying to optimize this trash game while getting "good" graphics at the same time
Es una buena tarjeta de vídeo ... Pero sin tan solo consumiera menos energía sería excelente.
Cuál ?
Hola compañero ... Es la rx 7700xt ... Cuesta un poquito menos que la rtx 4060 ti pero consume mucha energía ... Lo bueno que rinde un poco mejor que la rtx 4060 ti.
@@horfet5600 eres tonto? consume mas energia porque tiene mayor potencia, de todas formas lo que importa es la temperaturas, mira las temperaturas
Next time u can put Baldures gate 3 ? :) Good test anyway
especially the Act3 🤣
Im happy I went with the RX 7700S
everythink is good but bro 230 power usage 😭😭
230 ain't even bad though for that performance.
230 watts isnt even that much of a difference compared to 160 watts
It is when u see the electricity bill@@AMDRyzen57500F
@@AMDRyzen57500Fit much for long term. My place bills is much higher
@@MbappeKing70 oh, for me the power bills are lower so ok
245 watts tho man, I’d have to buy a new power supply too.
600w power supply is enough
@@r9gt349 It’s “enough” but there’s not really a lot of head room
La rx 7700xt sería la tarjeta perfecta si ajustara su precio acercándola más a lo que cuesta una rtx 4060.
Getting RX 7700 XT for my R5 7600x 🤣
bouta get a 4060ti for my 3700x lol
Muchas gracias!😊
Should i get RTX 4060 ti 8gb for $450 or pay $515 for RX7700 XT (these are the prices for my country), What should i do?
Go for 7800 xt at that point if it's around 500
@@CurseEnforcer I would but it's $ 670 here
@@hassaanbinmajeed496 7700 xt is a no-brainer here then
@@hassaanbinmajeed496 as much as I am for nvidia personally I'd take a 7700xt 8gb vram can work it can also be maxed easily and the raw power difference is massive unless you upgrade every 2 years or so take a 7700xt for abit more.
I'd say they're pretty evenly matched at those prices.
how am i with a 3060 getting 165 fps in 1440p at ultra in hitman while the 4060 ti ig getting less that 110????
That's Nvidia for u...😅😅
@@subhajitrouth5379 oh look, the 4060 ti's 128 bit bus is starting to cry against the 3060 12gb's 192 bit bus 😂😂😂
Upscale?
why is cod mw2 the exact same clip
thats like saying we have cars with the same horsepower oh but wait i have a turbo button and i can leave your ass in the dust nividia wins
RX consumindo mais energia, porém, mais fria. NVIDIA consumindo menos, porém, mais quente.
Sinceramente, que porcaria de 4060
Автор ты что то попутал ,такого не может быть на 4060 ti 16 gb
So don't buy an 8GB card or you will have a bad time.
yes, ray tracing is amazing but not on a 4060ti. it's a feature that exists and unless you're completely crazy you're not going to use this actively here. so don't tell that's a point for nvidia, both cards sucks at raytracing
What is better for 3D please ?
For 3d graphics, go with nvidia.
Amd SUCKS in that.
@@Киноварь no the 4060 ti SUCKS in value, get the 3070 for 280-300 usd and you'll basically be getting a 4060 ti 8gb at that price :)
Radeon no sense cards...dont buy this sh1t
The 7700xt performed better in EVERY SINGLE TEST, why wouldn't you buy it over the 4060ti 16gb?
@@MrToastyYTIt was same price as 4060ti 16gb and its peforming badly for me im gonna return it for 4060ti 16gb i even tried reinstalling windows after ddu wipe stil having problems with pc freezing and fortnite is stuttering like crazy even on dx12 latest driver update and im getting lag spikes 5-10fps for like 30 secs its really bad also having problems on the last of us 1 when i launch it shaders are competely glithed and i have to restart and the pc complete freezes are making me furious also alt tabbing is really slow sometimes 15/20seconds i need to wait on amd card compared to my old nvidia card. I really wanted to like the switch to amd but i hate it didnt have any problems with nvidia before.
Rx7700 xt consomme beaucoup plus que la rtx 4060 ti 😮
7700xt is pointless, when there is 7800xt for 50€ more. i would take one, but i am afraid of AMD drivers. Maybe i will try it, we will see, how will my 3060 handle games at 1440p.
So as 4060 times out of 16gb for $500
What a big difference, beating NVidia. It's worth comparing it to an RTX 4070.
so power hungry amd cards are
60W for a 20-30% increase not really power hungry that’s the same efficiency roughly if you do the math maybe slightly worse efficiency but cards tend to get less efficient the higher you go up and more powerful
20% power increase with Rasterization which favours amd although both are good in their own unique ways I like the nvidia cards for dlss and better ray tracing capabilities. @@Qelyn
@@onion8109 I don’t use raytracing hardly at all i think in most cases it makes games look to bright and some games hogearts legacy its just bugged anyways amd still has fsr and usually has cheaper options that preform better apart from raytracing but yeah both have benefits
200w+ 💀
That is what I call Domination. That is what AMD does, makes better graphic cards for a better price.
Rtx On and bye amd
@@mr_aplas8448 RTX on and bye anything below 4070 Ti too
Have you heard anything about DLSS 3 ?
We're not buying a software here, it's hardware. So we need to see the raw performance of the GPU's.
@@iczberkay47 Exactly
Its like buying a computer for a 1000 and running windows vista no hate amd's side but like dlss 3.5 is a thing now and raytracing is getting better in my opinion nvidia is better for a lot of uses.@@iczberkay47
have you heard anything about FSR 3 ?
@@iczberkay47i get ur point but the software comes with the hardware
no Warzone 2?
Спасибо
thought about getting my first amd cpu with a 4060ti... but i might go full amd seeing this...its cheaper and better
Ativa o Ray tracing 😂
Can I use a RX 7700 XT on a motherboard PCWARE IPMH410G?
why not? If you have a pcie x16 slot (haven't run into a mobo that doesn't have at least one of those) it will run. What CPU do you have and what is you psu? As long as those are not to old or underpowered you will be fine.
Thank You @@alexanderstults8484
My CPU is Intel Core i7 10700F @@alexanderstults8484
I got rid of the 7800xt and got the 4060ti. I couldn’t get the amd compatible no matter what I tried
instant regret mate, not an amd fanboy but your 7800xt might have had some issues and swapping it with a 4060ti is a no brainer
4060 ti 16GB 20% Lower Performance When Compared With 7700xt 12GB but Power Consumption Increases 35%
DLSS 3.5 vs FSR 3.0 💔
RT Rocks If You Use It On 4060 Ti
Drivers Conditions Also Great in Nvidia Side🎉
What Should I Pick RAW PERFORMANCE or FEATURE PACK
yeah but the point is that the 3070 is better even though its supposed to be worse
2060 > 1070
3060 > 2070
3070 > 4060 ti (for some reason)
1. If you live in the US power consumption takes about 5 years to matter and make up the price difference
2. Unlike fsr 2 vs dlss 2, dlss 3.5 and fsr 3.1 are pretty much equal
3. While amd drivers used to be bad in the past, they are much better now and amd drivers being trash is mostly a myth nowadays
4. Ray tracing on this gpu is going to run very poorly on both sides due to the fact that while they aren't cheap, they are still lower midrange. Also raytracing is usually very easy to miss, and Is still very unsupported on many games
I know you already probably bought your gpu already but I wrote this in case someone else is considering between these two.
Fsr 3 frame gen came this gpu performance well
Waarom een 4060 ti en geen AMD RX 7700xt' Bij mij zijn die goedkoper en die is gemiddeld sterker
18% more money for 20% more fps, no dlss and worse RT... AMD is so poor value right now (or Nvidia got good price cuts)
same price
Prices change, but the cheapest 7700 xt is still 13% more expensive than cheapest 4060 ti
In my country, this RTX 4060ti 16gb is more expensive than RX 7700xt.. the ones who buy this card are just stupid... I'm using RTx 3060 btw...
Bruh comparing 2 different tiers its insane if you comparing for price then okay
And ofc yes 7700xt is faster in raw power but if they cost the same i am thinking i choose 16 gigs and less power consumption 20 frames max difference is irelevantnfor me
No son 20 fps , tienes que verlo como porcentaje , la 7700 xt es alrededor de un 20% más potente que la 4060 ti , no 20 fps
20 frames in 1440p max is a huge difference bruh
Poor nvidia 😂
AMD Radeon no sense cards ..u waste your money in that sh1t
@@metalmaniac8260 just cry
@@GrifShorts you ll cry man .. radeons are sh1t! rubbish!
@@metalmaniac8260 😭cry
@@metalmaniac8260and you say that because you're an ignorant nvidia fanboy?
Its a good thing ray tracing is a gimmick
Despite out performing nvidia with performance and price to performance….. nvidia still out selling AMD
yah, these insufferable fanboys keep buying each company's bad product. the 3050 and the 4060 (ti) are both incredibly bad value, but them fanboys still buy it. the 6400 and 6500 xt, despite also being as bad as the 3050 and 4060 (ti), still has people buying them...
4070ti and 7800xt is bare minimum for that games.. Same as 3080ti and 6900xt.
4070ti and 7900xt ( not rt )
Not everyone has that kind of money, though. Especially when you consider all the other components for the PC that you will need. If you get something like the 4060, you can literally build a Pc with it without having to skimp on the other components for the price of one 4070ti.
Badly optimized games are not a reason for buying MUCH more expensive GPUs... Not when you can play 1000s of other games that run much better on lower end hardware, and can give you the same or better experience. If some of those games are visual monsters where you go "wow, that really is a next generation game", sure, but lets be honest, from the recent game (Jedi, Starfield), there really is nothing spectacular or special about the visuals. The bad FPS is really down to bad developed games.
@@quantumvideoscz20527800 xt for $500 if you can buy console for you can buy gpu for that price also
As an owner of Rtx 4060 Ti featuring ray tracing + Ray construction+ Dlss 3.5 + frame generation I found amd as an absolute looser 🎉
Yeah I think theyre both good in their own way but I just like being able to use ray tracing with a card that costs as much as my old pc and not have like 20 fps also dlss 3.5 is amazing
Amd has had rt support since last generation, ray reconstruction is only available in cyberpunk and requires you to have path tracing enabled and amd have made their own version of frame gen with it slowly being implemented in games.
I’d say amd is definitely keeping pace since gpu’s like the 7700xt are selling for near the same price as the 4060ti yet being around 15% faster in pure performance, having extra vram, and getting closer in niche metrics like rt performance. The only major losses being power consumption (for this gen of course) and upscaling.
Good for you, but if you rely on dlss 3.5 to play ultra setting in 2023… how will it perform in the future??? This is why raw power is always the king in gpu for me.
DLSS + FG + RT + PT is the future. We have to admit that
@@Esmeranus1315 pt is rt but it is probably the next step for graphical fidelity and DLSS, or any upscaler, if implemented well will help lower/older hardware scale better for future games but I hope Frame gen doesn’t fully take off. We’re already seeing some games require some sort of upscaler to get playable framerates on even higher end hardware. Imagine if games eventually will require frame gen, something that already increases latency and other variables, to get playable fps
Amd cards are big disappointment
what's the problem plz tell
20% faster on average for the same price, yet you call it a big disappointment lol. Nvidia is slower at every pricepoint, and they're only like 10% lower power draw too. Also raytracing is like 10% faster on nvidia, they lose in vram and raster speed across the board, Also AFMF lets you turn on framegen in ANY game, nvidia needs it baked into the 10 games that support it.
@@PineyJustice Top notch Amd can't even handle Alan wake's Mesh shaders 😂😂😂
Damn right.
@@ishaat_plays What, the 5700xt from 4 years ago? 1080ti doesn't handle it either.
where is the dlss or fsr comparison ? Did not hear these ? Dont need just raw performance.. Dislike
Наоборот она и нужна, а не фейковые кадры.
the raw performance is the point to even buying gpus for, u wont buy gpu that will get only 30 fps at 144p so u can get fake 120 fps with 1440p lmao
@@krspy1337 hmm you didnt understand me. Pls firstly read about dlss or same kinda Tech. Raw perf mostly affect the for work or etc. I got a over 80 fps Rtx and full graphics cyberpunk with dlss with 2k no need to raw performance if you dont a caveman 😂
@@bugrahanteber4135 raw performance is the main reference of performance, otherwise it's all fake and not real (without the upscaling and interpolating frames)
@@bugrahanteber4135Nvidia completely brainwashed you, raw power is the real thing to be measured first, also, we should not use fsr or dlss for competitive gaming, it increases latency, native raw power is the best.