Replace Bike Headset With Cheap Homemade Tools
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2014
- I change a bike headset using tools that can be made easily and cheaply. I remove the old headset, and install a brand new headset. This includes a homemade bearing cup remover, bearing cup press, and crown race setter. I include links to videos that explain how to make these tools yourself. This is a threadless headset on an Ironhorse mountain bike. The original heaset was an Aheadset, and I replaced it with one made by FSA. The on part I didn't replace was the star nut.
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How To Remove/Install A Crown Race With Cheap/Homemade Tools:
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Hi RJ. I just wanted to thank you for this, and all your other videos. Over the years, I've wasted hundreds of £ and lots of time with incompetent repair shop workers who couldn't fix half the things I've learned to fix myself - using only your fabulous videos as guidance. The camera angles are perfect; and everything you do and say is clear, concise, informative and easy to follow.
Your instructions and advice seem to be spot on - every single time. Thanks to you, I built up the confidence to buy my own tools (and make a few of my own too - again - thanks to you) - to fix everything myself...to my (and your) high standards.
I've gone from knowing jack$hit about bike maintenance and the tools...to stripping the whole thing down, cleaning, greasing and changing/upgrading almost every part on my trusty 2 wheeled steed. The cups on the front headset/fork are the last things I want to change - and I came straight to you for the perfect instructional video.
Now I need to go and buy the bits to make my own cup presser!
So - thank you RJ. You've given me the knowledge and confidence to do it all myself, and the best part is - I now know how to fix other people's bikes - it impresses them as much as you impress me :-)
Matt
Cardiff, Wales, UK
Thank you sir. I refer to your videos all the time. I flip vintage bikes. I clean them up, replace components and sell them for what I put into them, not including labor. The labor is my hobby.
I appreciate the bare foot state during the works; it promotes better concentration and a spiritual connection with the ground.
yes, I also work barefooted, I was welding once and had a spark get between my toes and di I jump around lol
@@jimpruett4005 you did it wrong... You could have felt a better spiritual connection if the ground was wet
Thank you very much, sir. You're smart and generous. I'm currently building a bike from scratch (to travel around the world) and the headset mount was a concern because i'm inexperienced and it's sensitive. Your video was very precious to me. It is what the bike should always be: democratic and affordable. Your message was heard. All the experience I've gathered in bikes I'll try to transmit to others in the same spirit. Again, thank you, and good luck to you. From France.
Thank you so much for your videos. I never would have attempted replacing the headset, bottom bracket and other repairs without your videos. For the headset, I made a tool that you described. I added a 7/8" size socket on a 1/2" rod. The socket barely fits into the frame tube. It holds the cup straight and it cannot slant. A few turns of the wrench and the cup was in. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Haha I have already replaced the headset of my MTB using this exact same method a couple of years ago and still completely watched this video. I just find it relaxing to watch.
New to fixing bikes in general. Followed your advice and I recently got the crown race off and installed it to the new fork without expensive tools. Felt damn good as if I won the lottery. Thanks RJ
Love these vids RJ! nobody covers older tech quite like you, and I've followed these guides for freewheels/freehubs and all the bearing related things
Thank you for the info on making the tools. Saved me so much time and money! The bearing cup remover, and press worked perfect. Thanks again for sharing the knowledge!
Thank you so much! Built a cup remover and pressing tool as per your instructions. Saved a lot of money and got the job done.
Thank you for sharing your expertise! Great channel!
Thanks for this. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these movies. As a bike newbie (but an 'older' guy) these have taught me bike mechanics and saved me money. A great combination! Thank you.
Watched the video then did exactly the same myself. Now I have my own headset cup remover. Everything this guy does works so well. RJ is THE Bike Guy.
I realize this is an old video, but wanted to thank RJ for these great tools and techniques. I used this exact method to replace the rusted headset on my 1984 Miyata 710.
Hi RJ, Sincere apologies. After re watching your video I realise you are right and I was wrong about the bearings. I'll shut up in future. Keep the great tips coming☺
Andrew Scougall Hey, no problem. I do occasionally make mistakes in my vids.
Thanks for the great tips. I made the conduit cup remover and cup press, and they worked great! The new headset is awesome. Now I just have to figure out what to use the other 8' of conduit for...
Thank you so much for this instructional video. The instructions which came with it is useless, but this really helped me get it right the first time to install FSA headset. Thank you once again for taking the time to make this video and posting it.
Just replaced the fork on my Trek 930 tonight! bike shop told me it would of have cost 2-300 dollars to put a suspension fork on the bike. I did it for less than 80! Not l high end parts or new, but it is good for my riding level! Thanks for the video!
So many bike shops are a scam. $200 for basic work at the one near me. I:
love your videos, very practical advice, brilliant home made tools that won't break the bank. Cheers
Great video , don't think I would of attempted this without videos like this . Took me 2 hours but I did have to improvise on one of the tools and a rear 175mm axle with washers works great for compressing the cups in. Thanks ;-)
I followed these directions and got my new headset installed on my mtn bike. Thanks!
Dude, you the man! Just saved me about $100 in tools! Beautiful.
love all your videos sir. i have 2 bikes now, i usually watch your how to's to maintain both of my bikes :)
I have a fancy headset/BB press tool, but tell you the truth, I found the simple tool such as what you made and use actually better.
I love all the homemade tools! Thanks for posting this.
Worked like a charm... Thank so much for posting this.
Hope you’re doing well RJ! Helped me a lot today! Cheers
i just want to say: my headset installation press cost was 4 euros after watching this videos. Thanks a lot!
Nice, simple and competent explanation and demonstration. Thanks...
Had an iron horse bike !
Awesome bikes , thanks for the video
I need to do the same thing on my bike. Awsome tutorial, thanks!
those are cool tools..easy to make too...thanx ,RJ..
Best video that I have seen. Good Job!
You're a genius. Excellent vids.
Great video will make the tools and have a go myself thanks tony
Great vid, nicely demonstrated.
I just made myself the exact same cheap tools u used.
For the headset press I used an M14-threaded steel rod with this stuff on it, top to bottom:
- M14 nut
- 45 mm washer with 15 mm hole
- 50 mm washer with 17 mm hole (These should even fit the biggest headsets I may ever encounter)
- - - head tube and headset cups go here - - -
- 50 mm washer with 17 mm hole
- 45 mm washer with 15 mm hole
- 2 M14 nuts countered against each other
The whole assembly is about 40 cm long (roughly a foot and a third) so no head tube should ever max it out.
For the cup removal tool I used a part of an extendable pull-up exercise bar. It even has a thick end cap with a threaded hole on the former inner end which now makes a perfect spot for the hammer to hit.
The tools have yet to prove that they work but looking at what I used to make the headset press I'm pretty damn confident it's gonna work perfectly.
Great tutorial video. Thank you much.
Thanks for the video. The tool was so easy to make. I had a 1/2" piece of EMT and I sawed it in half. It saved me an extra cut and it worked perfectly. I just made the slit about 8 inches from the end and carefully pried the two pieces apart. One quick smack with a hammer and the end pieces popped out. I thought I'd put this out there since it saves a little time.
Very nice video. That's some good advice you served up using the allthread and the pvc. I work with both daily and never considered it as a useful tool on this type project. Thanks for the lesson.
Your videos are very informative and useful. I have watched them all.
Thanks! I don't think I have even watched them all. LOL!
Thank you, RJ. You are an angel.
Iron horse bike,,the same brand my bike,,,thanks for making this video
Can I come hangout in your garage someday and watch you work on a bike or two? Love your videos, you're the only reason I know how to build bikes now.... I'll even make some homemade pizzas and mix a few Grey Goose and 7UP's! 😀
Thank You RJ for this video and all the others , no nonsense stuff and to the point usable info/tips/tricks. About the headset press & cone removing tube ,they saved me over 50$ my total cost to make the two tools was $22.60 that is less than the cheapest of the two tools price i found online. the saved $ can now be used for upgrade parts when the time come Only one piece/part i could not find in the hardware store i went to it's the nylon spacer/washer, any suggestion as to where they may be obtained? sometimes i purchased something cheap to split it apart to get a component on it.
Fair enough RJ. I wonder if Ivan (bellow) has a different type of headset. I've only ever seen it done the other way. Hello from Scotland BTW☺
what is the reccomended hammer weight for using on a headset removal tools? 8oz 16 oz or 32oz? do rubber hammers work ok
Thanks for posting
great video very helpful
I have the same bike and want to change the fork to a carbon road fork. I'm trying to make a gravel bike. I figure I can drop a lot of weight just by replacing the fork. Any suggestions? Do's or don'ts ? I was going to put drop bars on it but it just going to use a riser bar with a little sweep so I don't have to change shifters. I'd like to also eventually go to a 1x11 with a single chainring.
very useful thanks so much
great vid saving people tons of money i like every bit of it
I'm pretty sure the cap only tightens the tension on the bearings if the steerer tube limit/lip is below the stem - otherwise youre limit is the lip of the steerer tube itself and you get no tension
if im right i think this might cause some problems for ppl
pls correct me if i am wrong!
That is the way it is supposed to be.
I lol'd at the tv at 16:40, that's the Walking Dead! :D
Hi RJ, what headsets do you use? Thanks
I ordered a new headset and it came with the integrated bearing whereas the one i removed (from the old headset) was with the ball bearing as seen in your video. Is it now ok to use the integrated one or should i stick to the old bearing ?
Going bare foot in the winter heap um race have good bearing in tribe or under floor heating in basement.
I actually like your idea boit these homemade tools. Btw are all the bearings size for the rear the same? Thanks!
LOL! There are not absolutes! There are always going to be variations.
i am currently trying to rebuild my 28yr old MTB, have a similar headset with caged bearing. I am wondering if it is possible to change them to sealed bearing type of headset?
Your videos are the best way better then bikemanforyou.
Is a iron horse bike a good bike? Will You recomended
may i know what size of pvc to make crown race setter both 1" n 1 1/8" steer tube.thanks RJ. love all ur vids
I use the one tube for both: ruclips.net/video/VkY879pMafE/видео.html
I may have to try it. The closest bike shop is about 90 miles away, a bit far to go back and forth. Long story here and why. I have a new headset I believe will fit and this vid is right on time.
Hey RJ!! Where can I get that hand grease dispenser? Thanks for sharing your bike knowledge.
www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0025UGOVW/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
Wow it's the first time I saw his face. I'm a huge fan of you RJ.
+Oguz Bayram Over 60,000 subscribers and I doubt most could pick me out of a line up! LOL
Thankyou!
Great video. Could you please add a list of the parts needed for that DIY headset tool?
The only part I bought was the headset. That comes as a unit with the cups, bearings, crown race, cap, star nut. They come in many sizes, so you will have to figure out what size your bike needs. The video included links to videos of how to make each of the individual tools. I added links into the video description too.
Great video. Will hopefully become very useful when I rebuild my old bike!
I'm a little confused with all the different types of headsets mind. As long as it's the correct size (1 1/8" on my old 2006 Gary Fisher Piranha) does it matter? A lot of these terms like 'zero-stack' have me a little confused.
Also, your workshop looks like a really sweet man-cave. Chilled man, chilled.
There a multiple flavors of threadless headsets. Some are more common than others. Check out this chart for an idea: www.canecreek.com/resources/products/headsets/PDFs/canecreek-shis-poster.pdf
I like your videos,thanks for doing them,wanted to ask you what type of blue grease are you using?tks Karmen Malta EU
+Karmen Fava It's marine grease. Grease for use around water.
+RJ The Bike Guy have a question it's not about what the video is about it's about something else that concerns me today about came in my breaks up today and I don't understand because one day when you ride the bike pedals hit the ground like when you turn it hit the ground the pedales so I'm not sure it's one of those little shark bikes de mountain bikes on the cheap ones from other department store so I'm not understanding what to do on that if you can give me a little question have her to see what is going on with that um please let me know it's a full suspension bike with a little suspension in the middle thank you very much let me know the IDeal of suggestions.
I bought the same headset follow every you did idk if it's me but when you turn the fork does it making a roaring kinda noise like if bearings are dry? I packed the bearings with a lot grease and redid again and put even more grease
You might have tightened the headset too much. You only want to tighten it until there is no play.
thankyou verymuch
thank you
Hey RJ, If the whole "bike thing" doesn't work out for you, I think you have a bright future being a "stunt voice-double" for Drew Carey! ;)
Brilliantly simple Bike Tool hacks! Thank U sir, for this SO-O-O very helpful bike repair video! You $aved me Big $$! (Subbed)
Would this be the same process for a tapered head tube?
Yes. You would need a different headset obviously.
Rocking the crown race off is the most important part i dont even know how many i bent as a kid until i figured that out
I still find bent ones in my parts bins
Would it help to put the bearing cups in the freezer so they install easier
I have heard it will but I haven't done it.
I have seen other videos in which people place bearings in the opposite orientations. The video emphasized that proper orientation depends on the bike design.
ruclips.net/video/61Gygv82DAM/видео.html
I love that wooden mallet. I need to find one.
I made it on my wood lathe from a dead tree in our back yard.
My mallet weighs almost 2lbs. Here is something similar: www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B018JOUYG8/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
I would use a piece of head tube with a star nut in it before the washer near the cup centered
Do you have a video on completely replacing a threaded headset?
Not completely. I have videos on overhauling: ruclips.net/video/kv4lAAkDtKM/видео.html
Then just pop out the cups/crown race like in this video.
HI RJ...currently have a Ti Frame with a 44mm Headtube and a Columbus Futura Gravel fork with a 1-1/4 crown race. I have a headset which is a 1-1/2 on the bottom and I would like to be able to use this with the current fork. Do you know if anyone makes a "Step-down" spacer to allow a larger headset to work with a smaller crown race?
I don't know. You need to do research. blue.canecreek.com/resources/products/headsets/technical-specifications/headset-tech-specs-rev-e.pdf
I see the image in the video showing the PVC crown race setter ,but the link is not in the description,how I'm I missing it.
It IS in the description. Under the title "How To Remove/Install A Crown Race With Cheap/Homemade Tools"
I know my bike has a 1 1/8 straight steerer fork, so could I just buy any 1 1/8 headset kit and not have to measure anything?
You should always measure.
The only ones under the description of that video are the headset cup press,headset cup removing tool,If you haven't saw it I would look under that videos description.
What is the size of that headset and the cups?
I think it was a 1 1/8" headset. You need to measure what your bike has.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
help please, ive been watching your videos regarding headset on mtb. i have a semi integrated headset but still my headset is rocking. ive tighten everything but still i have a play on my headset. what do i need to do and how to do it please
Without working on the bike, I can't really tell you much. The usual fix is to loosen the stem, tighten the cap down, and retighten the stem. ruclips.net/video/ZsjZx9Kg7ng/видео.html
It could be be something is worn, or damaged. I don't know.
thank you let me try that.
RJ The Bike Guy you know what, id figured it out. its the star nut thats not holding or compressing well. ive replaced it and everything is ok now.
There was no link to the cup tapper thingy.
Why the removal of brake calipers?
Can you not put both cups on at the same time?
It's hard enough trying to get one cup to go in straight, without worrying about two cups at the same time.
I made mine from an off cut of a fork steerer
Very helpfull, want to swap my fixed forks for sprung ones on my old Koga bike, but the forks didn't seem to have the threaded top part like my old Koga fork has, which uses a screw on top cup.
The races and cups top and bottom are orientated the same direction.
So I didn't understand what holds the top race in place on this newer system.
Now I understand that the handlebar stem keeps it in place, as it slides over the steering tube opposed to the old system where the stem slides into the tube and is fixed with an expansion nut.
That's why new forks seem to be sold with overlength steering tubes, you are supposed to cut these to the right length, which is the length of the front tube with the whole headset mounted in, plus the steering stem height minus a couple of milimeters, which allows you to pretension the bearings.
After seeing another video someone using an expensive tool to press in the cups I already thought that it could be done with threaded bar and some large washers, when 2 pieces of thick threaded bar can pull a cylinder liner from a huge locomotive diesel engine it can do this job.
he is going to go ahead
Where did you get your grease gun. What is the name brand.
It's a Dualco Mini Grease Gun. I bought it on Amazon, but it doesn't look like it's available there now. There are some similar mini grease guns, but I can't vouch for them. I know Harbor Freight sells one that looks the same, but I have read poor reviews of it.
It's back on Amazon again. It seems to disappear for short stretches and then come back: www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0025UGOVW/ref=nosim/youtube25-20
Thank you RJ. Just ordered it.
Where is the link to the homemade crown race setter
In the description. ruclips.net/video/9G5R8-qitgM/видео.html
Does it matter that my pipe on top is threaded?
+Chris Green If you have a threaded headset, then parts of this will be applicable, and parts won't.
Hello there, great video. I think you put the bearings in the wrong way round. Sorry.......just saying☺
Andrew Scougall It depends on the headset/bearings. Sometimes they go one way, sometimes the other. Often the flat side of the cage goes towards the cup. But not always. It depends on the cage and the cone.
Should you replace your headset if you are swapping forks?
Not if it fits the new fork and there are no problems with it.
Great video, how can companies charge £90+ for something you can make for like £3
+The Redster one works and the other MIGHT- just finished...with a mallet and small piece of wood : [
I build bikes a lot and never sacrifice working parts i only do old school unless a new one is free or dirt cheap i would replace whats broken on the headset because a headsets are good headsets and i always fix cantilevers because it looks weird with cantilever mounts and v brakes that makes the bike look like what i call shop raped where a shop cons you into buying all new parts because their "old"