Yesugei repeatedly attempted to convince Arvida to become a member of the Vth Legion, since the Thousand Sons were now considered Excommunicate Traitoris. He even went so far as to commission his Legion's artificers to create a hybrid pauldron, incorporating the iconography of both Legions, to replace the one of Arvida's that had been severely damaged during the fighting against the Death Guard. Yesugei is such a bro
‘I do not doubt your visions,’ the Khan said, quietly. ‘But what do they change? Shall we stare up at the shadows and let our blades fall from our hands?' 'Know this, son of Magnus. There is more under the arch of heaven than victory and defeat. We may fall back, but not forever. We may feint and we may weave, but not forever. We may yet be doomed to lose all we cherish, but we shall do so in the knowledge that we could have turned away, and did not.’ ‘We remained true,’ the Khan said. ‘They can never have this, not if they burn all we ever built and scorn us through the dancing flames. You hear me? We remained true.’
As a Son of the Khagan, thank you for this. This story - the Scars treatment of Arvida is one of the big reasons I follow them. It is one of the Legion's proudest moments. When Russ and his butchers escorted the wounded V Legion to Terra, they placed patrols and heavily armed squads on Scars ships. Yet the V Legion kept them away fron the section where Arvida was contained, leading to many tense armed confrontations as the Wolves tried to figure out what Jaghatai was hiding from them. But the Warhawk would have fought the Wolves to the last man rather than give them Arvida.
Also the Scars treatment and respect for Ilya Ravallion. She is a brilliant logistician and basically molded the Legion into an effective military force. Being the one to deal with all the political and logistical problems any Legion needs. They basically protected and respected her only second to their Primarch. They had a damn veteran Captain as basically a chauffer/bodyguard for her.
White Scars is also the legion I follow. I took the Horus Heresy quiz and it made me interested in them, now tbh they are my favorite legion. Completely independent in their own thinking but also the comradery and the pure loyalty they bring to others
one of the great failings of the emperor was his tendency to treat his sons like glorified servitors rather than thinking, feeling beings. I like the theory that in making the primarchs he had given away so much of himself that he could no longer fully understand them let alone ordinary people.
The more I read of the Scars the more I love them. How many other instances can we think of where another Chapter/Legion would accept someone else into their Chapter not of their lineage.
Love the who concept of his character and how he becomes the first Grand Master of the Grey Knights just wish we had more lore on him during that time.
I am not gonna lie, I have always loved psykers, Grey Knights and even Pre Heresy Thousand Suns. I wanted them to be good, but alas when you mess with the warp.. It is nice to know there is a loyal brother amongst the legion.
I really find it so cool when the Remembrancer says His imperium.. Like damn. You have very quickly become my favorite Warhammer lore guy!! Thanks. For the Emperor!
Love the thousand sons and their last remaining brother. Has anyone else figured out that Janus is not just the first Supreme grand Master of the grey knights but the (kind of) primarch of the blood ravens by way of magnus' noble shard.
Arvida is proof that the tutelaries weren't all chaos daemons. Warp entities, sure, but not all evil. My theory has always been that they are shards of each Thousand Sons' own souls made sentient and manifest in the Warp. Their inner daemons, perhaps, which is why the TS get betrayed by them when they become too angry, too prideful, too aggressive. This also creates a bit of beautiful rhyming poetry with Magnus, who also is forever missing a piece of his soul, which is also an independently sentient entity. Finally: The Crimson King shows us that when a mortal entity that has absorbed a shard of Magnus dies, the shard is released. We know the Grey Knights on Titan have a secret prisoner that none ever are to speak of. My theory? After Janus died, the Magnus shard loyal to the Emperor was released... And has been kept on Titan ever since.
Here's a thought. Maybe warn Gulliman, the Lion, Rogal, Leman and Sanguinius? Like if there was some kind ward or blockage through the warp. Use other means through the materium by warning people who aren't under such wards and whom you know fully to be loyal.
As a Grey Knight enjoyer & a White Scars enthusiast, I love this guy. I had no idea some of my two favourite things intersect sp closely like this. I just thought the og master of the Grey Knights was a Thousand Son called Janus. Turns out he's an adopted son of the Khagan.
Janus kind of explains mephiston how he is a new being so its kinda obvious he carries the part of the great angel that is the source of the black rage.
While Russ was certainly loyal, I wouldn’t call him the most loyal. Personally I would say that the Lion was more loyal. Russ wasn’t trusted enough to be given the massive dark age arsenal that the Lion was which, let’s not forget, included things like men of iron and weapons that would eradicate your very soul. Yes he was secretive, but was never disloyal to the emperor. While Russ went and fought Horus and wounded him with the Emperor’s spear, his goal of killing him failed because he hesitated at the last second. Something the Lion would never have done. In the end, we must remember: while Russ was indeed the emperor’s executioner, the Lion was the emperor’s exterminator.
Actually, if I remember correctly the Lion was hesitant to kill Konrad because he was his brother, despite the fact that Psycho Batman was a psychopath, I could be wrong though and that is from new and returned Lion not Horus Heresy Lion
They resisted fiercely? That's all you have to say on the approach? The knowledge of what was coming was kept from them. They were barely given chance to mount what little resistance was offered.
Prospero was a tragedy....but seriously big E why the fuck did you send one of the most anti psyker primarchs to stop Magnus? I mean for fuck sake just tell the primarchs they're all minor warp gods and that'll properly shut Leman up for fuck sake.
Russ was sent for 2 reasons: 1. It's Russ' job to basically be the proverbial sword of Damocles which hangs over the heads of the other primarchs. He's an enforcer. 2. Russ and the Space Wolves are the most psychically resistant of all the legions. Russ himself has near Sister of Silence level resistance to warp shenanigans. That's why.
@@chrisfrombeyond4240 I mean fair enough however would it fucking kill big E to just send over some custodes just so Russ does exactly as big E ordered AND to help Russ see through the lie and horus's bullshit? Like c'mon E you need to be fucking more big brained than this.
All of BIG E's warriors should have been custodes even if it took another hundred years. Absolutely no question of their loyalty. The Astartes were loyal to each other and primarch more than the Emperor....
Yesugei repeatedly attempted to convince Arvida to become a member of the Vth Legion, since the Thousand Sons were now considered Excommunicate Traitoris.
He even went so far as to commission his Legion's artificers to create a hybrid pauldron, incorporating the iconography of both Legions, to replace the one of Arvida's that had been severely damaged during the fighting against the Death Guard.
Yesugei is such a bro
"Do not grieve. We were made to do this, szu. We were made to die."
@@bvdemier1 I cried
Despite being of a traitor legion, he still bore the symbol of his legion with pride. Where most had forsaken theirs he kept it.....that is bravery.
"Traitor legion" there fixed it for you
@@esukgfjyijlgul5335 yeah the Thousand Sons got screwed. First by the Emperor in the Council of Nikea, and then by Horus
And by Magnus' own arrogance. @@seanclark9891
‘I do not doubt your visions,’ the Khan said, quietly. ‘But what do they change? Shall we stare up at the shadows and let our blades fall from our hands?'
'Know this, son of Magnus. There is more under the arch of heaven than victory and defeat. We may fall back, but not forever. We may feint and we may weave, but not forever. We may yet be doomed to lose all we cherish, but we shall do so in the knowledge that we could have turned away, and did not.’
‘We remained true,’ the Khan said. ‘They can never have this, not if they burn all we ever built and scorn us through the dancing flames. You hear me? We remained true.’
As a Son of the Khagan, thank you for this. This story - the Scars treatment of Arvida is one of the big reasons I follow them. It is one of the Legion's proudest moments.
When Russ and his butchers escorted the wounded V Legion to Terra, they placed patrols and heavily armed squads on Scars ships. Yet the V Legion kept them away fron the section where Arvida was contained, leading to many tense armed confrontations as the Wolves tried to figure out what Jaghatai was hiding from them. But the Warhawk would have fought the Wolves to the last man rather than give them Arvida.
Nice
Also the Scars treatment and respect for Ilya Ravallion. She is a brilliant logistician and basically molded the Legion into an effective military force. Being the one to deal with all the political and logistical problems any Legion needs. They basically protected and respected her only second to their Primarch. They had a damn veteran Captain as basically a chauffer/bodyguard for her.
@@Wafflemarine22 If the Khan comes back into the 41st/2nd Millenium, I hope he names his Flagship The Ravallion.
White Scars is also the legion I follow. I took the Horus Heresy quiz and it made me interested in them, now tbh they are my favorite legion. Completely independent in their own thinking but also the comradery and the pure loyalty they bring to others
Same here, this event really showed the character of the Scars.
Glad you talked about this guy. The Khan loved him enough to call him his own, that kind of thing is one of my favorites in lore
one of the great failings of the emperor was his tendency to treat his sons like glorified servitors rather than thinking, feeling beings. I like the theory that in making the primarchs he had given away so much of himself that he could no longer fully understand them let alone ordinary people.
The conversation between the khan and the Magnus shard had me in tears.
May he never be forgotten, so long last son of Prospero
The more I read of the Scars the more I love them. How many other instances can we think of where another Chapter/Legion would accept someone else into their Chapter not of their lineage.
Jagathai and Vulkan are the Chad-Dads of Warhammer.
huuuuumongous terminator daddieeeeeessss
Jaghatai is a good step-dad.
Jaghatai has one of the best relations with normal mortals and space marines
Love the who concept of his character and how he becomes the first Grand Master of the Grey Knights just wish we had more lore on him during that time.
I am not gonna lie, I have always loved psykers, Grey Knights and even Pre Heresy Thousand Suns. I wanted them to be good, but alas when you mess with the warp..
It is nice to know there is a loyal brother amongst the legion.
I really find it so cool when the Remembrancer says His imperium.. Like damn. You have very quickly become my favorite Warhammer lore guy!! Thanks. For the Emperor!
Love the thousand sons and their last remaining brother. Has anyone else figured out that Janus is not just the first Supreme grand Master of the grey knights but the (kind of) primarch of the blood ravens by way of magnus' noble shard.
Request a video on Qin Xa please? Dude deserves a place in the remembrancers history and chronicles.
You know, you should make this request in the discord server of the channel, it's in the description of the videos
@@natanaelsantos3924 thanks for the heads up
the last bit, over the pursuit of knowledge, is greatly narrated!
Hell yeah dude, I love these videos on less talked about characters. I've been having a great time binging these.
Excellent telling. That is quite an in depth account of one’s inner spirituality, with the result when one stays true to oneself.
My son, where are you now? The imperium needs you.
Damn, I really hope this is an introduction to the Grey Knights because brother, We are the Hammer!!!!
You are one of best channels, alongside Baldemort, Vox in the Void, Aborder Prince. I wish you growth to match this fact.
Outstanding! ☠️ Thanks for the content.
Arvida is proof that the tutelaries weren't all chaos daemons. Warp entities, sure, but not all evil.
My theory has always been that they are shards of each Thousand Sons' own souls made sentient and manifest in the Warp. Their inner daemons, perhaps, which is why the TS get betrayed by them when they become too angry, too prideful, too aggressive.
This also creates a bit of beautiful rhyming poetry with Magnus, who also is forever missing a piece of his soul, which is also an independently sentient entity.
Finally: The Crimson King shows us that when a mortal entity that has absorbed a shard of Magnus dies, the shard is released. We know the Grey Knights on Titan have a secret prisoner that none ever are to speak of. My theory? After Janus died, the Magnus shard loyal to the Emperor was released... And has been kept on Titan ever since.
Targutai Yesugei! Greatest name in fiction!
Thank you for another great video. Ending was very deep
Beautiful, thank you.
the ending was awesome such wise words and absolutely true.
Nice work Remembrancer
Here's a thought. Maybe warn Gulliman, the Lion, Rogal, Leman and Sanguinius? Like if there was some kind ward or blockage through the warp. Use other means through the materium by warning people who aren't under such wards and whom you know fully to be loyal.
As a Grey Knight enjoyer & a White Scars enthusiast, I love this guy. I had no idea some of my two favourite things intersect sp closely like this. I just thought the og master of the Grey Knights was a Thousand Son called Janus. Turns out he's an adopted son of the Khagan.
Keep up the great work!
Janus kind of explains mephiston how he is a new being so its kinda obvious he carries the part of the great angel that is the source of the black rage.
Would be great if you could do one of Epimethius and the tales and rumors around who he is.
dope video as usuall. amazing voice. keep up..
While Russ was certainly loyal, I wouldn’t call him the most loyal. Personally I would say that the Lion was more loyal. Russ wasn’t trusted enough to be given the massive dark age arsenal that the Lion was which, let’s not forget, included things like men of iron and weapons that would eradicate your very soul. Yes he was secretive, but was never disloyal to the emperor. While Russ went and fought Horus and wounded him with the Emperor’s spear, his goal of killing him failed because he hesitated at the last second. Something the Lion would never have done. In the end, we must remember: while Russ was indeed the emperor’s executioner, the Lion was the emperor’s exterminator.
Actually, if I remember correctly the Lion was hesitant to kill Konrad because he was his brother, despite the fact that Psycho Batman was a psychopath, I could be wrong though and that is from new and returned Lion not Horus Heresy Lion
They resisted fiercely? That's all you have to say on the approach? The knowledge of what was coming was kept from them. They were barely given chance to mount what little resistance was offered.
Great episode
Legend and Beast 💯💯
Prospero was a tragedy....but seriously big E why the fuck did you send one of the most anti psyker primarchs to stop Magnus? I mean for fuck sake just tell the primarchs they're all minor warp gods and that'll properly shut Leman up for fuck sake.
and Motoarian would have commited sepoku, which would have saved everyone a lot of trouble.
Well, who else was he suppose to send?
@@raspherion someone who isn't fucking rabid against psykers lmao.
Russ was sent for 2 reasons:
1. It's Russ' job to basically be the proverbial sword of Damocles which hangs over the heads of the other primarchs. He's an enforcer.
2. Russ and the Space Wolves are the most psychically resistant of all the legions. Russ himself has near Sister of Silence level resistance to warp shenanigans.
That's why.
@@chrisfrombeyond4240 I mean fair enough however would it fucking kill big E to just send over some custodes just so Russ does exactly as big E ordered AND to help Russ see through the lie and horus's bullshit? Like c'mon E you need to be fucking more big brained than this.
My boy
I love your videos
Did you say the 666th legion did I hear that right?
Is it too late to ask from which books his lore come from? Thousand Sons make me sad every time.
All of BIG E's warriors should have been custodes even if it took another hundred years. Absolutely no question of their loyalty. The Astartes were loyal to each other and primarch more than the Emperor....
He’s up there with Dantioch. 🫡