Jacob Vining Well I just checked and Japan got Quasar early 2011, and DN has OCG cards on it, so you could already use it. It is possible though that his opponent was only playing TCG cards. I don't ever use OCG cards myself.
@omgineedusers He discards Fabled Krus(When this card is discarded to the Graveyard, select 1 Level 4 or lower "Fabled" monster in your Graveyard, except this card, and Special Summon it.) for Kush. Add Kush to hand. Effect of Krus. Target Chawa that has been in grave. Special summon said Chawa. No misplay that I can see with regards to Chawa's summoning
Shooting Quasar Dragon was released as a promotional card during December of 2011. As far as I know, Dueling Network currently adds cards un-released for the community to try out new archetypes, but I'm not 100% sure about Quasar being added, the only option back then for fabled's most broken card being Trishula back then, using context clues such as seeing azneyes and his pro bro not even consider Quasar, Quasar wasn't available back then
To everyone mentioning Quasar, this video was uploaded September of 2011. I don't think Quasar was even out when this was made. However T.G. Halberd Cannon was but I don't think anyone used him.
2) Even if you do succeed in stopping a card like BLS, CED, etc, cards like those are just as easy to bring back: MR if destroyed after being properly summoned, DDR if removed after properly summoned, etc. If BLS, etc., gets warning/judged, then that's just 3 summoning prevention traps out of the way that allows me to summon something else that is just as useful
I agree, as any reasonable person should, that AznEyes made a misplay of not using Veiler on the Librarian. However, THE misplay that cost someone the win was made by the Fabled dude, as his was far more detrimental/severe. This is shown by, even though it was due (in part) to luck, AznEyes still managing to come back for the win despite his own misplay; yet, despite having all those combos and pluses going for him, the Fabled's one misplay (a big one) of not summoning Quasar cost him the win.
Before they had the option to call admins, they had the Anti-Sportsmanship Spirit, or A.S.S. button. If you're opponent was being a troll or an asshole you could use it to admit defeat and to lower their rank. It got replaced because people kept using it for the wrong reasons.
no, then the Trish would've banished cards and you don't want that... No Sagan for BLS also no Veiler for BLS and the possibility that the would've hit BLS with the banish from hand.
_Kaliber_ Consider, though, that Librarian draw a lot of cards during that string. Some of them might have been the cards that enabled the Fabled player to continue going off. Veilering Librarian could’ve possibly meant that the opponent couldn’t make Trish. Now, it did turn out that not Veilering Librarian worked out here, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that holding Veiler was the correct play. I don’t know whether or not it was, but there is certainly an argument to be made for both sides.
Yes, it HAS been game changing. The fact that BLS and CED, along with Chaos Sorc, were the first "trio" of Chaos monsters means it literally changed an aspect of how the game was played. You can NOT say otherwise and expect to be correct. The fact that those cards also happened to be good due to their effects just made them even more OP/broken, which is why they have all, at one point or another, been banned because of it.
I also forgot the effect of Quasar that lets him summon Shooting Star Dragon if he leaves the field. So even if things went your way and he managed to remove Quasar he still couldn't win. Shooting Star + Catastor = loss, he'd have Catastor run over BLS and then hit the Leviathan with the Shooting Star, and he still had other plays to summon more monsters...he lost yes, but only because he didn't use the cards the right way is all I'm trying to say.
And Veiling the Librarian would have been the much safer route. It would have cut off all of the crazyness that he did, and still gave him the light he needed for a BLS. In short the clear misplay came from AznEyes, it just happens that he was lucky and it paid off where as the Fabled guy had so many options but simply didn't anticipate a Veiler that late into his play.
What I meant is that if the Fabled dude is prone to make the misplay of not summoning Quasar, the win condition, then he is also more than likely (if not guaranteed) to misplay in using Quasar as well. Don't assume that anyone can use Quasar and win just because of how easy it is to use. For all we know, if the Fabled guy is too hesitant to even summon the Quasar, then he is also just as hesitant to activate any of its effects, regardless of the lack of risk in doing so.
1:56 The other guy with AznEyes said "Maybe he's going for Shooting Quasar." Don't make a comment if you weren't paying attention, or at least look the card up before commenting.
Simple: if he went Quasar, AznEyes could have just veiler'd, get veiler negated (but still have a light in the grave, get attacked by Quasar (sending Sangan to grave and get Honest) and have a few life points left to keep going, then come his next turn he'd use Smashing Ground to force opponent to use up his negation effect, then summon BLS to banish Quasar~
It sounds like you're saying that the Fabled player can never win no matter what series of moves he makes or even if he makes the right moves that would counter Azn's hand/field just because he lost here...Lol it doesn't make sense that he'd summon a Quasar and not know how to use it, yet he went through a 5 min play that led to a trish and drew a bunch of cards for him, while also taking care to get his Dopple Warrior effects and Fabled monsters SS's and graveyard effects along the way.
You seem to miss the entire point I was trying to make. 1) No matter how many ways there are in which you can stop a card/deck, that does not change the fact of how over-powered/broken that particular card/deck may be. So sure, you can use that "will you always have Monster Reborn? ... (against my) Judgement, Warning, BTH... etc" type of logic, but I can just as easily have ways to stop you from doing that to my BLS, as well as you not always having those cards to stop it.
MetaKaios Fuck Exodia, Infernities had crazy long turns when they went off. They could take, like, fifteen minutes looping through Mirages, Hundred Eyes, and Leviairs, Trishing you multiple times (not sure if infinitely), then ending with a bunch of Level 8 Synchros and a back row of 2 Breaks and 3 Barriers.
Not really. There are events that caused Azneyes to win this duel, not just BLS 1. Lelouch11 chose to activate the optional effect of dopplewarrior and special summon two weak atk position tokens. 2. Lelouch11 also had a facedown spell or trap that could do nothing to stop a summon or attack. 3. Azneyes was able to get an honest to his hand by sangan, thus making the OTK possible. 4. He had a starting veiler in his hand along with a sent sangan to the grave to quickly summon a BLS right away.
While watching this i was thinking of how he could have gone for Quasar, i concluded that kushano was the most logical way. Then he summoned kushano and was thinking, "This guy is a god". When he went for Trish, i think i died a little inside.
Now that being said, I'm not going to lie it is a much more intricate play than Quasar and he might not have thought of it. However it is still an alternative to the the win condition most people would have went for (myself included) which is Quasar. Also I don't understand what you mean by he could have misplayed in trying to make certain moves, because if you're going for a move then its clear what you have to do. Its not like he can mistakenly summon Scrap Dragon while trying to go Trish
why did he quit? he had a catastor on field and a 2700 beater. bls cant kill both of those in the same turn. I know his hand had smashing and honest, but his opponent didn't know that. He couldn't think that one through?
Hell no. BLS is broken, but CED is a different story entirely. He can attack for 3000, then nuke both players' hands and fields Main Phase 2 and burn your opponent. Not to mention that, the way effects like his work, the sending to the grave and the burn happen simultaneously. That means if Lightpulsar gets sent by this effect, he can bring back REDMD, which can bring back Lightpulsar or CED, all while leaving your opponent with nothing. If you don't win because of that, you're doing it wrong.
I'm not understanding how you're failing to see what I'm saying...I'm not saying what if he attempted to make a quasar or do the other plays I mentioned. I'm saying if he had DONE the plays that I mentioned he would have won. Also the only reason it seems like the moves he did was bad was because AznEyes had a Veiler (which he had no way of knowing) and even then he himself misplayed by not Veiling the Librarian because there was also no way for him to know his opponents hand either
Actually I do in fact know this..seeing as how in my examples I never mentioned a card that the opponent didn't play. I only mentioned cards that he used in the vid, and simply did a different play with them than he did. Also the whole point of mine and your comments are to speculate what could have occurred with a different set of plays, and to see if AznEyes would have been able to defend himself if those plays had in fact taken place instead of the ones the opponent opted to use.
Clearly he drew as much as he could, and still had the quasar play. and he even opted to abandon an extra draw by using Librarian as a material for Trish over Catastor =/
TheAkid007 Lol cool. That's all fine and dandy, but that doesn't detract from the fact that it's a 3000 beater than you can practically get out for free (especially in that format) that attacks twice and has fantastic removal. It's not quite as insane in the current meta, but still.
think about the time he was released... back then, chaos monsters were new, not as easy to summon and the game was a lot slower paced. SO according to its time BLS is a fair boss monster... plus with ALL the new cards that are super plashable hit the ban list sooner or later. BLS was on it. Trishula and now brio both hit the ban list.
Following up on the comment I made seconds/minutes before THIS one (find and READ that comment before reading all of this one if you wish to not misunderstand me, AGAIN): Even if he DID NOT make any hesitations and truly believed there was no way in failing to minus his opponent, then WHY did he hesitate in summoning Quasar by not doing so at all? We BOTH agreed that it would've been the better option, yet he did not do so? After all of the comments I've made explaining this: I rest my case~
With Trish still not on the Ban List and during the year Quaser wasn't out yet. Now some one will argue but Tuner sycns came out during same time no they didn't anyway just a tip why people understand this
You seem to be confused by what I'm saying to you; what I'm saying is as simple as 1+1=2. And what I mean by that is if he had in fact done the exact moves as I described them, and used the effects as I would have used them, there would be no doubt that he would have won that match. You seem to think that I'm leaving the plays up to his competence or ability as a player. Which brings me back to 1+1=2, its an equation that will ALWAYS be true just as my plays are in this situation
Its not all about Chaos Dragons.the goal of chaos dragons is to USE CHAOS DRAGONS. BLS is just too splashable in too many decks. It's also hard to run over when its summoned. Generally it means game for the other player.Also it's way too easy to get out on the field.
Actually now that i think about it, it didn't even have to go as far as using Instant Fusion. Lol he could have went Quasar, negated veiler, discard Krus for Kushano, SS Chawa in ATK mode, then SS the Dopple Warrior in ATK mode and run over Sangan doing 3k, then attack again doing 4k, then hit for 200 + 800 totaling 8000 lol >
Lol, and that's the point that I'm trying to make: you didn't need to "say" that at all; it's obvious the only reason the Fabled dude lost is because of his misplay/poor choice in not getting out Quasar. Still, even with that last hypothetical situation you proposed, it still cannot be said that the Fabled dude would have won (or not), simply because he didn't summon Quasar. If he's prone to that kind of a misplay, then he's even more prone to failing at doing any/all of what you hypothesized~
+Ian Cullinan Not sure why though as they haven't banned Jar of Avarice. PoA only lets you choose monsters, then draw 2. But JoA let's you to choose any five cards in grave, though draw 1. So you can use Raigeki 4 times if you run 3 JoA, and if the duel runs that long
+Joshua Naruto King because jar of avarice requires a turn to use, pot was a straight up card you can use and get a plus one out of it not to mention. Pot of avarice is out of jar's league, possibly never coming back
Fine lets say he doesn't have a Quasar in his extra deck, that wasn't the only way to win. He could have also used Insta Fuse, made a Brio with formula to bounce Sangan, and if Azn didn't negate its game, and if he does negate its game still. Because then he could have went Catastor with Kushano and Dragonfly, SS Cerebus and Dopple with Krus, then went Trish with Catastor+Cerebus+Dopple, and remove a card or get negated, then get 2 tokens and swing with all for 9200 damage
And he went Trishula using Librarian instead of Catastor? He should have been able to get Unicore alongside a Quasar with his hand. No one realizes how much pressure that move applies to the opponent.
Problem with BLS is how splashable he is. There aren't many boss monsters in the game that are as easily summonable, has 2 effects that are pretty broken (attacking twice and banishing any monster), have no cost, has 3000 ATK, and is a light monster, making Honest and BLS a possible OTK. He is far from fair.
You don't know that, and neither do I. Hypothetically, BOTH situations that we stated COULD have happened, but neither did. Since we have no way of knowing what was that dude's entire hand, neither of us can say what "would" have happened, but only what "could" or "should" have happened. Besides, even if the dude had everything needed to do all of what you said, it doesn't mean he would have done so without fail/misplay---the fact that he didn't summon Quasar at all proves this. #HumanError~
I don't see how people think BLS is fine now. It still wins games on its own. That, or your opponent wastes some of his power cards to stop it, and then you get out your real boss monsters and punch him. But, oh no! They couldn't re-ban him for the March format. That would be too balanced.
Okay, I'll say this as plainly as possible; I am NOT ASSUMING ANYTHING, I'm looking at FACTUAL EVIDENCE (cards USED IN THE VID) and STATING that if said cards were to be played in a different order, the outcome would have changed. I'm NOT guessing that Azn didn't have any other outs, I KNOW he didn't and I'm not guessing that Fabled had plays for days, I KNOW he did. So either look up the definition of assume so you can use it correctly, or learn to read so you can understand what I'm saying.
he saw he drew honest and he got useless dopples so he would stay take like a ton of damage; he might survive 1 turn but it comes down to luck of next draw
All these hypothetical situations you're spouting out sound great and all, but that still doesn't mean he would have: 1) been competent enough to even consider these strategies 2) been able to do them, or 3) actually done any of those strategies. As I have said before: what's proof of this is that if he's prone to misplay by not summoning/using something as easy to use as a Quasar, then he's just as likely (if not more so) to misplay in doing a more complicated/unconventional alternative.
To everyone wondering why he didn't make Quasar: Quasar wasn't released until late 2011, which is after this video was uploaded.
But azneyes mentions Quasar in the video around 1:55. If it wasn't released, then why would he be worried about it?
Jacob Vining Well I just checked and Japan got Quasar early 2011, and DN has OCG cards on it, so you could already use it. It is possible though that his opponent was only playing TCG cards. I don't ever use OCG cards myself.
tails512 Makes sense.
Jacob Vining AznEyes didn't mention Quasar, PinkReaper did.
Jeff Clark Regardless of who said it, Quasar was a known card at the time.
Isn't it incredible that this guy creates a Shooting Quasar Dragon field before its released?
Japan had it already, and DN gets OCG cards on it. so it was already on DN.
@omgineedusers He discards Fabled Krus(When this card is discarded to the Graveyard, select 1 Level 4 or lower "Fabled" monster in your Graveyard, except this card, and Special Summon it.) for Kush. Add Kush to hand. Effect of Krus. Target Chawa that has been in grave. Special summon said Chawa. No misplay that I can see with regards to Chawa's summoning
Shooting Quasar Dragon was released as a promotional card during December of 2011. As far as I know, Dueling Network currently adds cards un-released for the community to try out new archetypes, but I'm not 100% sure about Quasar being added, the only option back then for fabled's most broken card being Trishula back then, using context clues such as seeing azneyes and his pro bro not even consider Quasar, Quasar wasn't available back then
that was INSANE! all those moves and you beat his ass in 1. freakin hysterical.
Azneyes added Honest with Sangans effect. It showcased itself into his hand on the screen for everyone to see when it did it.
To everyone mentioning Quasar, this video was uploaded September of 2011. I don't think Quasar was even out when this was made.
However T.G. Halberd Cannon was but I don't think anyone used him.
2) Even if you do succeed in stopping a card like BLS, CED, etc, cards like those are just as easy to bring back: MR if destroyed after being properly summoned, DDR if removed after properly summoned, etc. If BLS, etc., gets warning/judged, then that's just 3 summoning prevention traps out of the way that allows me to summon something else that is just as useful
You weren't around for the dark days of DN having that button
@Gahdekoms777 exactly!
His friend clearly says "Hes going to go for shooting quesar dragon" in the video
@omgineedusers Unless there is a misplay much farther or behind the time he linked to, the play is completely valid. Rewatch it.
I'm curious as to why the librarian didn't get veilered
He thought another card was coming out, which would've been better to veiler.
I agree, as any reasonable person should, that AznEyes made a misplay of not using Veiler on the Librarian. However, THE misplay that cost someone the win was made by the Fabled dude, as his was far more detrimental/severe.
This is shown by, even though it was due (in part) to luck, AznEyes still managing to come back for the win despite his own misplay; yet, despite having all those combos and pluses going for him, the Fabled's one misplay (a big one) of not summoning Quasar cost him the win.
Clearly he saw quasar, he just wanted to keep drawing...
no it only needs a tuner synchro monster so like formula it can't be made with out one
Before they had the option to call admins, they had the Anti-Sportsmanship Spirit, or A.S.S. button. If you're opponent was being a troll or an asshole you could use it to admit defeat and to lower their rank. It got replaced because people kept using it for the wrong reasons.
Doppelwarrior special summoned from its own effect. (When Cerburrel reborned itself from the graveyard)
Wouldn't it have been a better idea to just use Veiler on Hyper Librarian?
Well bujins go plus bujinion ;)
no, then the Trish would've banished cards and you don't want that... No Sagan for BLS also no Veiler for BLS and the possibility that the would've hit BLS with the banish from hand.
_Kaliber_ Consider, though, that Librarian draw a lot of cards during that string. Some of them might have been the cards that enabled the Fabled player to continue going off. Veilering Librarian could’ve possibly meant that the opponent couldn’t make Trish.
Now, it did turn out that not Veilering Librarian worked out here, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that holding Veiler was the correct play. I don’t know whether or not it was, but there is certainly an argument to be made for both sides.
Yes, it HAS been game changing. The fact that BLS and CED, along with Chaos Sorc, were the first "trio" of Chaos monsters means it literally changed an aspect of how the game was played. You can NOT say otherwise and expect to be correct. The fact that those cards also happened to be good due to their effects just made them even more OP/broken, which is why they have all, at one point or another, been banned because of it.
I also forgot the effect of Quasar that lets him summon Shooting Star Dragon if he leaves the field. So even if things went your way and he managed to remove Quasar he still couldn't win. Shooting Star + Catastor = loss, he'd have Catastor run over BLS and then hit the Leviathan with the Shooting Star, and he still had other plays to summon more monsters...he lost yes, but only because he didn't use the cards the right way is all I'm trying to say.
And Veiling the Librarian would have been the much safer route. It would have cut off all of the crazyness that he did, and still gave him the light he needed for a BLS. In short the clear misplay came from AznEyes, it just happens that he was lucky and it paid off where as the Fabled guy had so many options but simply didn't anticipate a Veiler that late into his play.
What I meant is that if the Fabled dude is prone to make the misplay of not summoning Quasar, the win condition, then he is also more than likely (if not guaranteed) to misplay in using Quasar as well.
Don't assume that anyone can use Quasar and win just because of how easy it is to use. For all we know, if the Fabled guy is too hesitant to even summon the Quasar, then he is also just as hesitant to activate any of its effects, regardless of the lack of risk in doing so.
I found it funny that the duel was 10 minutes long, but only consisted of 4 turns. 2 of which lasted a minute lol.
@uUUu314
He discarded Krus for Kushano's eff, then specialed Chawa from the grave using Krus' eff.
@uUUu314 He discarded Fabled Kruz, which special summons Fabled chawa from teh graveyard
1:56 The other guy with AznEyes said "Maybe he's going for Shooting Quasar." Don't make a comment if you weren't paying attention, or at least look the card up before commenting.
Im pretty sure quasar wasn't out when this was recorded... but i can't be sure
I thought this was a fabled quasar which is a net deck but this guy was just like out there
Simple: if he went Quasar, AznEyes could have just veiler'd, get veiler negated (but still have a light in the grave, get attacked by Quasar (sending Sangan to grave and get Honest) and have a few life points left to keep going, then come his next turn he'd use Smashing Ground to force opponent to use up his negation effect, then summon BLS to banish Quasar~
It sounds like you're saying that the Fabled player can never win no matter what series of moves he makes or even if he makes the right moves that would counter Azn's hand/field just because he lost here...Lol it doesn't make sense that he'd summon a Quasar and not know how to use it, yet he went through a 5 min play that led to a trish and drew a bunch of cards for him, while also taking care to get his Dopple Warrior effects and Fabled monsters SS's and graveyard effects along the way.
You seem to miss the entire point I was trying to make. 1) No matter how many ways there are in which you can stop a card/deck, that does not change the fact of how over-powered/broken that particular card/deck may be. So sure, you can use that "will you always have Monster Reborn? ... (against my) Judgement, Warning, BTH... etc" type of logic, but I can just as easily have ways to stop you from doing that to my BLS, as well as you not always having those cards to stop it.
longest turn ever
Shenanigans seems you've never seen an Exodia player
Gouki lol
MetaKaios Fuck Exodia, Infernities had crazy long turns when they went off. They could take, like, fifteen minutes looping through Mirages, Hundred Eyes, and Leviairs, Trishing you multiple times (not sure if infinitely), then ending with a bunch of Level 8 Synchros and a back row of 2 Breaks and 3 Barriers.
azneyes anyway I can get those Cover sleeves I need it for ygo ? any download link for the Cover sleeve ?plz thank you
Quasar wasn't out yet.
Azn's Sangan is in the top percentage of Sangan
Not really. There are events that caused Azneyes to win this duel, not just BLS
1. Lelouch11 chose to activate the optional effect of dopplewarrior and special summon two weak atk position tokens.
2. Lelouch11 also had a facedown spell or trap that could do nothing to stop a summon or attack.
3. Azneyes was able to get an honest to his hand by sangan, thus making the OTK possible.
4. He had a starting veiler in his hand along with a sent sangan to the grave to quickly summon a BLS right away.
While watching this i was thinking of how he could have gone for Quasar, i concluded that kushano was the most logical way. Then he summoned kushano and was thinking, "This guy is a god". When he went for Trish, i think i died a little inside.
Now that being said, I'm not going to lie it is a much more intricate play than Quasar and he might not have thought of it. However it is still an alternative to the the win condition most people would have went for (myself included) which is Quasar. Also I don't understand what you mean by he could have misplayed in trying to make certain moves, because if you're going for a move then its clear what you have to do. Its not like he can mistakenly summon Scrap Dragon while trying to go Trish
why did he quit? he had a catastor on field and a 2700 beater. bls cant kill both of those in the same turn. I know his hand had smashing and honest, but his opponent didn't know that. He couldn't think that one through?
Hell no. BLS is broken, but CED is a different story entirely. He can attack for 3000, then nuke both players' hands and fields Main Phase 2 and burn your opponent. Not to mention that, the way effects like his work, the sending to the grave and the burn happen simultaneously. That means if Lightpulsar gets sent by this effect, he can bring back REDMD, which can bring back Lightpulsar or CED, all while leaving your opponent with nothing. If you don't win because of that, you're doing it wrong.
I'm now gonna name my Rattata Sangan because of you. Thank you sir
I'm not understanding how you're failing to see what I'm saying...I'm not saying what if he attempted to make a quasar or do the other plays I mentioned. I'm saying if he had DONE the plays that I mentioned he would have won. Also the only reason it seems like the moves he did was bad was because AznEyes had a Veiler (which he had no way of knowing) and even then he himself misplayed by not Veiling the Librarian because there was also no way for him to know his opponents hand either
Actually I do in fact know this..seeing as how in my examples I never mentioned a card that the opponent didn't play. I only mentioned cards that he used in the vid, and simply did a different play with them than he did. Also the whole point of mine and your comments are to speculate what could have occurred with a different set of plays, and to see if AznEyes would have been able to defend himself if those plays had in fact taken place instead of the ones the opponent opted to use.
Your Sangan is in the top percentage of Sangans.
Just to clear this up, he could have went for quasar, It was released in Japan at the time, and DN gets OCG cards, therefore he could have got it.
Clearly he drew as much as he could, and still had the quasar play. and he even opted to abandon an extra draw by using Librarian as a material for Trish over Catastor =/
TheAkid007 Lol cool. That's all fine and dandy, but that doesn't detract from the fact that it's a 3000 beater than you can practically get out for free (especially in that format) that attacks twice and has fantastic removal. It's not quite as insane in the current meta, but still.
think about the time he was released... back then, chaos monsters were new, not as easy to summon and the game was a lot slower paced. SO according to its time BLS is a fair boss monster... plus with ALL the new cards that are super plashable hit the ban list sooner or later. BLS was on it. Trishula and now brio both hit the ban list.
it didnt even matter if he went quasar, veiler the quasar, then he will have to negate smashing ground, and then bls would remove.
it wasnt out at that point
he discarded a krus, which got back the chawa
at the end of the match he only went +3, and that was including his PoA, so I wouldn't really call it a Bajillion.
That guy had the better play, all that summoning, and still 5 in hand. BLS, too good.
So, I guess he used his Extra Deck room for fusions for Instant Fusion...
since magic was released,
im pretty sure magic is still the most played card came to date
though to be fair it has been about for about 20 years
Holy shit, that guy´s turn xD and really, you just got lucky with that BLS in hand, no pro play or anything
this is an old video, it was call an admin, i have no clue what it stood for.
i dont get y when he had catastor, and hyper, and formula he didnt go for quasar....like wtf?
Following up on the comment I made seconds/minutes before THIS one (find and READ that comment before reading all of this one if you wish to not misunderstand me, AGAIN):
Even if he DID NOT make any hesitations and truly believed there was no way in failing to minus his opponent, then WHY did he hesitate in summoning Quasar by not doing so at all? We BOTH agreed that it would've been the better option, yet he did not do so? After all of the comments I've made explaining this: I rest my case~
♫Didnt matter had BLS, oohh i just got BLS and i never lose this duel, i just bls♫
@AznEyesWhiteDragon no what he did was discard kruz for kushano then kruz's eff brought back chawa
He had smashing ground as well. so he would have to negate smashing ground first.
so unfair, that guy knew what he was doin
His opponent had Quasar first turn yet didn't summon it...
If he had gone for Quasar Azneyes would have lost
With Trish still not on the Ban List and during the year Quaser wasn't out yet. Now some one will argue but Tuner sycns came out during same time no they didn't anyway just a tip why people understand this
You seem to be confused by what I'm saying to you; what I'm saying is as simple as 1+1=2. And what I mean by that is if he had in fact done the exact moves as I described them, and used the effects as I would have used them, there would be no doubt that he would have won that match. You seem to think that I'm leaving the plays up to his competence or ability as a player. Which brings me back to 1+1=2, its an equation that will ALWAYS be true just as my plays are in this situation
Its not all about Chaos Dragons.the goal of chaos dragons is to USE CHAOS DRAGONS. BLS is just too splashable in too many decks. It's also hard to run over when its summoned. Generally it means game for the other player.Also it's way too easy to get out on the field.
Actually now that i think about it, it didn't even have to go as far as using Instant Fusion. Lol he could have went Quasar, negated veiler, discard Krus for Kushano, SS Chawa in ATK mode, then SS the Dopple Warrior in ATK mode and run over Sangan doing 3k, then attack again doing 4k, then hit for 200 + 800 totaling 8000 lol >
Lol, and that's the point that I'm trying to make: you didn't need to "say" that at all; it's obvious the only reason the Fabled dude lost is because of his misplay/poor choice in not getting out Quasar.
Still, even with that last hypothetical situation you proposed, it still cannot be said that the Fabled dude would have won (or not), simply because he didn't summon Quasar. If he's prone to that kind of a misplay, then he's even more prone to failing at doing any/all of what you hypothesized~
What is the spellcard called played at 4:02 ?
Pot of avarice. It's banned now tho.
Thanks :)
+Ian Cullinan yeah u plused way much with that card
+Ian Cullinan Not sure why though as they haven't banned Jar of Avarice. PoA only lets you choose monsters, then draw 2. But JoA let's you to choose any five cards in grave, though draw 1. So you can use Raigeki 4 times if you run 3 JoA, and if the duel runs that long
+Joshua Naruto King because jar of avarice requires a turn to use, pot was a straight up card you can use and get a plus one out of it not to mention. Pot of avarice is out of jar's league, possibly never coming back
can you exceed summon neo-galaxy eyes photon dragon?
Fine lets say he doesn't have a Quasar in his extra deck, that wasn't the only way to win. He could have also used Insta Fuse, made a Brio with formula to bounce Sangan, and if Azn didn't negate its game, and if he does negate its game still. Because then he could have went Catastor with Kushano and Dragonfly, SS Cerebus and Dopple with Krus, then went Trish with Catastor+Cerebus+Dopple, and remove a card or get negated, then get 2 tokens and swing with all for 9200 damage
And he went Trishula using Librarian instead of Catastor? He should have been able to get Unicore alongside a Quasar with his hand. No one realizes how much pressure that move applies to the opponent.
not to mention a possible otk. that 7000 from the difference, the 200 from chawa, and 800 from dopple. 7000+200+800= 8000 exactly... super fail...
It wasn't out yet
I haven't kept up with Yugioh since Yugioh GX started playing on tv. I watched the whole vid and I have no idea what the hell just happened here
He couldn't have made that Fabled Unicorn, he had 2 tuners, you guys said there was 2 tuners, and you watched him do it x.x
I don't really know why blue didn't go Quasar. I feel like he could've.... Maybe I'm crazy though I am posting this at like 3 am...
Problem with BLS is how splashable he is. There aren't many boss monsters in the game that are as easily summonable, has 2 effects that are pretty broken (attacking twice and banishing any monster), have no cost, has 3000 ATK, and is a light monster, making Honest and BLS a possible OTK. He is far from fair.
BLS attack trish, drop honest on attack, BLS now has 5700 and can attack twice, and Number 17 can clean up a token
@ioOreOoi Afetr that he sends chawa to grave for kush back. Confusion between chawa and cerebell? Yes. happens to me alot
he discarded krus to bring kushano to his hand. and he special summoned chawa with krus`s effect.
get your fact right
hmmmm was this before quazar was released?
thats so dumb. that guy had like an amazing first turn and BLS is so fucking broken, that you get to win on your next turn anyway.
You mean was broken. Now almost every deck in existence can get over BLS. It's broken for like turn one, then it's a pretty weak card now.
I honestly can't think of a card more broken than Chaos Emperor Dragon. Lol
You don't know that, and neither do I. Hypothetically, BOTH situations that we stated COULD have happened, but neither did. Since we have no way of knowing what was that dude's entire hand, neither of us can say what "would" have happened, but only what "could" or "should" have happened.
Besides, even if the dude had everything needed to do all of what you said, it doesn't mean he would have done so without fail/misplay---the fact that he didn't summon Quasar at all proves this. #HumanError~
Was this before quasar or something?
@ioOreOoi Don't see how getting kush back specials chawa
I love how u guys r calling every one of his moves
I'd also like to remind you that CED would make decks like Vayu turbo absolutely lulz.
I don't see how people think BLS is fine now. It still wins games on its own. That, or your opponent wastes some of his power cards to stop it, and then you get out your real boss monsters and punch him. But, oh no! They couldn't re-ban him for the March format. That would be too balanced.
6:00 First turn Quasar possible 2+5+5
Okay, I'll say this as plainly as possible; I am NOT ASSUMING ANYTHING, I'm looking at FACTUAL EVIDENCE (cards USED IN THE VID) and STATING that if said cards were to be played in a different order, the outcome would have changed. I'm NOT guessing that Azn didn't have any other outs, I KNOW he didn't and I'm not guessing that Fabled had plays for days, I KNOW he did. So either look up the definition of assume so you can use it correctly, or learn to read so you can understand what I'm saying.
how, if he smashing quasar would negate, and if he bls he would just get shooting star
He saw him add honest with sangan.
he saw he drew honest and he got useless dopples so he would stay take like a ton of damage; he might survive 1 turn but it comes down to luck of next draw
the fabled guy had game if he summoned quasar and spammed other synchros
first thing i see is an advertizement for the CFV anime.
All these hypothetical situations you're spouting out sound great and all, but that still doesn't mean he would have:
1) been competent enough to even consider these strategies
2) been able to do them, or
3) actually done any of those strategies.
As I have said before: what's proof of this is that if he's prone to misplay by not summoning/using something as easy to use as a Quasar, then he's just as likely (if not more so) to misplay in doing a more complicated/unconventional alternative.