I have owned a 750 king quad for almost 10 years now no problems what so ever fast smooth and reliable no replacement parts as yet 3500 miles no problem.
29 miles a month? Honestly that’s quite a bit more than most people. Unless they’re a kid or something that ride all day everyday on mommy and daddy’s gas fund.
My 18 was fantastic, would have loved the cvt exhaust to be higher, but I got an insane trade in value, I couldn't have sold it privately for more. So I tried out Polaris. Nit disappointed, but I do miss it sometimes
@@dangrimes5078 the KQ is a short wheelbase. Sofast riding and cornering through the logging roads at high speed is great since the Japanese ATV's have separate brakes you can use just the front to really swing the rear out to get the drift going. The big single has a good amount of power out of the hole but over 60kmh the power just smoothly goes up unlike my Polaris 850 V-twin that seems to have great power through the whole band. The KQ is also basically maintenance free. Change the oils and ride, zero grease zerks. If you don't get power steering, DO NOT get grippy radials like the big horns. You'll have a machine that turns too tight and too easily due to geometry and wheelbase. I stuck with bias tires 1 size up and it was fantastic. I would never criticize anyone who buys a KQ. The only change I would make, if you do water crossings, extend the rear CVT exaustt at min. The airbox can hold nearly a gallon of water before getting to the engine and I had never gotten a single drop of water in the airbox.
I have this 19 KQ 750. While I have only plowed snow with it for 5 hours, it is a MUCH stronger engine and engine brake than my 17 Rugged Edition 750. As we know these 19's have different clutches, shocks, power steering, brake leverage and designs on front and back and more. I cant wait to hit the trails soon here in Western New York
These two machines are very close in comparison .. I chose the grizzly .. better power steering probably best in the industry, better suspension,led lights, better low end power , and I find it handles better.. and yes I drove these bikes back to back many times.. I find sitting in them back to back there very similar but the grizzly has a way more cushioned seat but the handle bars are a bit low for my taste but easy fix with some risers .. all in all either bike would be great to own and if I had to have a second choice it would be the king quad ..
I've had 2 kingquads. 2007 I put 5600 miles on it in 4 years. Never had a wrench on it other than a lug wrench to change tires. My 2013 has 2000 miles and I replaced the stator last year. Belt, brakes and exhaust are like brand new. I just bought 2 leftover 2023s a 500 for wifey, and a new 750 for me. I couldn't own anything else just because of the luck that I have had . I know Yamaha, Honda, and Kawasaki are all good, but man I sure love my king and queen quads.
@@aidancoole4535 The brute is twice as fun as the KQ, I’m pretty sure everyone knows that. The KQ has a smoother ride but doesn’t have that thrill factor the brute has. Kawasaki does need to give the bike an update though. better headlights, better stock tires, more cushion in the seat, etc... just subtle changes and the brute would be the best on the market. They both have their pros and cons but I would pick the brute over the KQ any day.
I have a 2020 king quad 750, here's my review. The Good: amazing engine and best cvt, best sounding and feeling atv, handling very good. By far the best seating position and seat of any atv. The grizzly you sit on top of, the king quad you sit in it. Its one of those things on paper is never mentioned but so important and rarely discussed. The Bad: the rear brakes are terrible sealed wet brake not worth the tradeoff. Why did they put the front brakes (primary brakes) on the right side with the throttle making the right hand too busy. I much prefer the setup of polaris sportman brakes (single lever and on left side). If you ride somewhere with lots of sharp rocks or tree roots the short suspension travel does become an issue. Conclusion: excellent ATV but Suzuki could make just a few small changes to make it the best.
@@sihyungpark8311 Polaris has the unified braking controlled by one lever. Most Japanese manufactures offer a single lever for which ever brake you want to use. Myself and most experienced riders prefer to use which ever brake that is needed vs the one brake lever does everything. With some more experience you'll get use to and appreciate that right hand brake lever for the front brake and left hand (or foot) for the rear brake. Really hard to brake slide the rear end with a single lever on the bars for both brakes.
@@williamconlon4183 youre being a little presumptuous arent you? I am a very experienced rider with over 4 atvs over last 15 years and several dirt bikes for the last 40 years. For dirt bikes yes a lever for each brake makes sense, for ATVs the single lever for both, or foot pedal for just the rear is preferred by experts also. Also having a rear wet brake (which doesn't work well or feel good) reinforces the preference for a single lever.
@@sihyungpark8311 each to there own and I've got 55 years of riding dirt bikes, 30 years of racing dirt bikes and have owned 4 ATV's (all with dual brake levers) in the last 20 years. With your amount of experience I would think that if you didn't have a ATV or bike that had a rear brake the didn't work, or worthless, you'd buy another. Like I said each to there own!
I had problems with the fuelpump relay freezing up. But that was in -25° f temps. Otherwise I've had no problems in any other temps. Note: after researching I found out people would warm the relay up in their pocket. This has been a problem In other brands as well.
Looks like Suzuki was listening, the 2021 models on the website show "plastic rack covers". Good video, no doubt 2 of the all time best trail machines imo.
Love that they added composite racks, which hasn't made any mention by any ATV reporting that I've seen. I despise steel racks, the get paint scuffed off, sure you can hook anywhere, but it always slides. And nothing really fits, a 5L can rubbed my rack paint off, caused hazing o the plastics, and it was on there seeming tight as can be.
Plastic racks are the worst damn thing ever in an ATV. I see so many can am and Polaris out on the trails with cracked and or broken plastic racks. That is a major downgrade on an ATV imo
I have had both brand new. 16 Grizz and 17 KQ. Either is a bullseye, and in my opinion the KQ is a bit better for my needs as I LOVE a wet brake. The Grizz ate brake pads. Also, the KQ is quieter at the rider area as the tranny isnt quite as busy sounding as the Grizz. Again, both are great.
Do you guys feel it was quick and fun on trails? Debating between this and Brute Force. I know Brute might be a little quicker. Do you feel the KQ was quick enough for you?
I have been riding dirt bikes and quads for 40 years I raced Motocross for 20 of those. All of those on Yamahas so I know what I'm talking about. I have scene Suzuki's Transmissions go south the first time they are put in gear, my brother-in-law has a brand new Suzuki 750 that has already had welds crack. I have a 2006 Grizzly 660 with 14800 MI never had an issue, and I have a 2015 Grizzly 700 with is 1800 miles absolutely zero issues. So first-hand experience yamaha's are the way to go,Hondas are just as reliable.
Well I'm Honda foreman with 80 000 km's so would you say that Yamaha is junk compared to Honda. Because for sure the Yamahas don't stand up like the Hondas. I know they are more capable, but more reliable not a chance
@@paulcu130 that's cute you couldn't even get a Honda Foreman into where we normally go. But they are both very reliable. You got to bring that little Honda Foreman down to the Gila Wilderness and see how you like it.
Agree and I did state that the Foreman won't go where the Grizzly well. Totally agree, but that Grizzly will be in a land fill somewhere while most Foreman are still are still running for Farmers and surveyors
@@paulcu130 well I don't see that happening anytime soon. Like everything else you take care of it it'll last. And I maintain mine well, there is also a reason most of the hunting guides down here run Yamaha because they are dependable and tough.
WOW>>>My 19 KQ 750 was picked up yesterday. As I mentioned, I have had new grizzlies and a 17 King Quad. (aslo brand new when I bought it) In case you missed it, I picked up a new KQ yesterday, and not a Grizzly. Grizz is awesome and you wont catch me knocking it, but I picked up another KQ!!! While it has only been ridden in the driveway, the motor and engine brake are WAY MORE NASTY and STRONGER than my 17 Rugged Edition!! I cant wait to hit the trails here in Western NY this weekend. Many people base opinions on machines that they bought used. They also assume the way they ride is the way EVERYONE rides, and that your terrain is EVERYONES terrain. Cmon guys grow up.
Yup. I grew up and bought a Honda 20 years ago (Honda rancher 350 $5000.00), sold it 2021 for $4500.00. Did nothing other than fuel, oil, filter, tires, insurance. Honda/Yamaha hold value. $500.00 depreciation/21 years. Wish my truck was same.
I know this means nothing but We had a 1998 teal LT160. Used it every weekend for the next 15 years. Only changed the oil once. Only had to replace the starter and battery. Sold it to a friend for $500 and he uses it every weekend now. We now have a Rhino and swear at it on a regular basis. I know things change and small engines are more reliable but nobody will ever get me to hate on a Suzuki motor. UTVs are great tho.
Your UTV prayers might well be answered by Suzuki soon. Persisting rumors that they are working on a sport / utility machine keeps coming around here and there. With Kawasaki and honda entering the super sport UTV arena, Suzuki will be the only one left not in the game. Being an automotive company, they have the means to do so. Even if the brass at Suzuki keep denying they are working on a UTV, i'm fairly certain it will happen in the near future. -Marc
How about the cvt vent location on the KQ? I had a 2015 and water would get splashed in and end up in the cvt. The intake was right behind the throttle side front tire behind the flap.
@@mathews0618 not the same engine anymore on the yamaha has an even snappier kick with less torque in the midrange being the 686 shortstroke engine. The latest gen KQ with the new mapping is even better in the midrange but up top the yamme walks away in a dragrace
In all fairness I shot this segment much too fast right after shooting for my TV show. So yeah, i missed a lot of details that my co-hosts talked about in the french version. Sorry about that. My thoughts: The best all rounder is the KQ. It hauls *ss like never before with the top notch suspension upgrades to flog around an clutch tuning. It's confortable to boot. The Grizz remains the most fun and the return of the rev happy 686cc yamaha built mill makes it much more fun to keep it high in the rev range. It's faster than the KQ on top speed has better suspension. the one negative is the low rev fueling that is set way to lean to pass emission that turn the Grizz into a rolling BBQ which was what affected the previous subaru built 708cc and caused excessive oil consuming. Either or and you will not be disappointed, i've always had a softspot for Suzuki motorcycles and have owned many over the years and I'm happy they finally updated the KQ to current standards to compete with Yamaha that was standing alone on top of the mountain in the latest years.
The Suzuki is a really great looking machine. All of a sudden I’m not happy with my Yamaha’s round lights! Steel racks are the way to good, positively.
You've lost your mind if you think that Suzuki Is better than the grizzly SMH. The grizzly 686 engine is hands down bulletproof, They weigh significantly less than the king quad, at the same time the grizzly has better fuel capacity, The grizzly looks better the visuals are way ahead of king quad, that thing is ugly af, and the grizzly stock has better ground clearance. In no way is the king quad better than the grizzly. It is worse and you guys didn't give any evidence to back it up because there is no evidence to back up that the king quad is "better" get some facts together before you try to make blind comparisons. Yamaha for life.
I am A king quad lover. I have a 2015 500 and that machine is a great ATV. My buddy just purchased a Yamaha Grizzly 708 2018. He let me take it for a rip and he took mine. I have to say the Yamaha's power was nice and certainly much more than my 500, but less than what I suspected. However, I would rate it about 7.5 out of 10. That being said, that was the only thing that I could even come close to criticizing , this was the most amazing ATV I had ever been on. Smooth, unstoppable refinement , quality and styling all hit the marks for me. I have to say it would be the bike I would buy if i was to purchase now. However, to say that the Grizzly is more reliably than the KQ or Visa Vera just isn't true and from my personal experience my 450 KQ ( I have 2 KQ) has been bullet proof. I would think they would be very close. Finally, comparing it to the new 2019 750 I would think that the Grizzly would edge it out in a head to head, but I do believe it would be close. I totally disagree with you on the styling on the new 750. I think it looks awesome and to say " you've lost your mind if you think that Suzuki Is better than the grizzly " states that you think Grizzly is miles a head and that clearly shows you have never experienced both because if you did you would realize that at best it is only marginally better in a few areas. MHO. Oh and my buddy thinks that in some ways my 500 KQ is better for his style of riding. Just goes to show that it isn't a blow out for Grizzly.
Paul Cumby I have to disagree with you there is nothing that the king quad does better than the grizzly I listed facts you listed “preferences” and to say reliability of a king quad is just as good or better is ignorant lmao Yamaha is known for reliability and very rarely fails you, I can give hard proof and evidence of the reliability if needed . It’s very rare to find a used king quad in decent shape to say the least nowadays.
Jay, just for the record you listed little facts and neither did I. I cleanly used statements of option based on my personal experience and if you read down through this comments section you will see more options from other people, because trying to quantify an ATV's qualification is general all a collection of options from people's experiences. Even when people write reviews of these machines they are nothing more than options. So when you say the King Quad is "ugly" is about as factual as saying oranges taste bad. However, because you seem to be rooted in "facts" lets look at some. You made the statement " there is nothing that the King Quad does better than the grizzly. " So Fact: The King Quad 750 has a larger displacement engine which translates into greater HP. The King Quad is 49.6 Hp compared to the 48.3HP for the 708 and 45.6 for the 686. Fact: On 400 yard sprint the King Quad is faster. There is enough evidence of short races on You Tube of the 2 and I have seen enough races myself first hand to say the Grizzly stock has no chance. Fact. King Quad as a greater top speed. Roughly between 110 km's to 115 km's depending on weather and elevations. Grizzly is 105 KM's on a good day. Now if you are like me none of these things are important. However, to make the statement " there is nothing that the King Quad does better than the Grizzly. " is factually incorrect. So if you are getting facts incorrect it is safe to say that some of your options are based on strong bias for the Grizzly also and not being totally objective. I will revert back to MHO like I stated before. I believe, for what I feel is important to me in an ATV, that between the Grizzly 2019 and the King Quad 2019 the Grizzly edges out the King Quad. However, I think they are so closely matched that which ever gave me the best deal at the time I was buying would be the direction I would take and knowing the reliability of Suzuki first hand could also push me a little harder in the direction of the King Quad.
Okay let me restate myself on why the king quad is a dud compared to the grizzly in a little more detail, other than a few ccs of engine wise lmao.... 1. King quad is 730 lbs/ the grizzly is 692lbs Grizzly wins on that one. 2. The king quad has a ground clearance of 10.2 in/ the grizzlys ground clearance is 11.3 Grizzly wins that one. 3.king quad fuel capacity 4.6 gal/ the grizzly 4.8 and at the same time is more fuel efficient Grizzly wins that one. 4. King quad comes with worse than average 25in stocks/ grizzly comes with 26in maxxis brand tires Grizzly wins that one. 5. King quad springs shocks front and rear coming in at a whopping 6.7 in of travel in the front and 7.7 in of travel in the rear/ The grizzly comes in with 5 way adjustable shocks, which are still not the best by any means but come in at 7.6 inches of travel in the front and 9.1 in the rear , Grizzly wins that one. 6.Visuals can be personal preference but a few things Yamaha does better, King quad is still rocking those outdated halogen lights while Yamaha has incorporated leds, Yamaha has come a long way with their stock rims also. Another great thing Yamaha has added is the new special editions with the 27 in zillas they just look amazing with that red matte black look and or the country blue. I just don't see king quad to the same standard of visuals but that is my OPINION. 7. The King quad is sporting the same engine it's had for years with some small tunes, same with Yamaha but there is talk of the 850 inline going in the grizzly but for now Yes the 750 has a little more power, I can't attest to the reliability of the king quad motor because I've actually never seen anyone that owns a king quad lmao but I can say the grizzly motor is solid but for power reasons, king quad wins one. 8. A Yamaha puts a 10 year limited warranty on their belts just to show how well built that transmission is. I can say Yamaha's cvt is the smoothest setup I've ever ridden on and all ate reviews agree, once again grizzly wins that one. You wanted facts here's the hard truth that a Grizzly is absolutely ahead of the king quad, I can't see a person passing a grizzly for that KiNg QuAd@@paulcu130
Good review on the ride comparison but more details should be provided. For example, it's worth talking about the engines which are different in size displacement. Yamaha has a 686cc engine and the Suzuki has a 722cc engine. This amounts to and extra 34 cc displacement for the Suzuki. And, that may mean a slight horsepower difference. Yamaha has historically used an awesome drive belt which lasts a very long time. The headlights on the bars is a good feature on both atvs. In Canada most riders like grip warmers, and I like a windshield which makes riding in cooler temperatures more bearable against cold air. Also I hope that these machines are providing a minimum of 26 inch heavier ply tires for durability. A winch is always a useful addition to an atv, as is a trailer hitch. Other then that - I've owned Yamaha but would consider a Suzuki.
Only Yamaha offers a winter package in Canada includinf the windshield, hand and thumb warmer and heated seat, all oem accessories with full factory warranty. Nice eh? We talked with Suzuki Canada execs about bringing such a winter package on the KQ. They did not say no but we've yet to see it. Both companies offer purchase incentiveslike a free winch a few times per year. Wish they would include the winch all the time. The Yamaha LE with maxxis tires have a 6 ply rating and are inded much better thant the generic Maxxis offered on the base model, the Suzuki's tires are the worst of the two. I wish manufacturers would stop skimping on tires... _ Marc
Just caught your channel. Looks like you're just getting back into the videos? Always good to have people doing proper reviews of machines and accessories for those of us looking to buy!
Nice to get your thoughts and opinions concerning the pitting of these two against each other. Would be nice to see more expansion on this using these two great machines. Let’s be honest. You can’t go wrong with either one of these. But it would be nice to see more testing.
I have a 2020 King Quad 750. The good: awesome drive train, best sounding engine, good power, excellent cvt transmission, best engine braking, seating position perfect where you sit "inside" vs on top like a grizzly (feels wierd and uncomfortable), best seats, handles well, oozes quality just look under the plastic looks like everything is powder coated and seals and wire harnesses are much better than sportman. The bad: suspension travel is too short and you can feel it especially when comparing to a polaris sportsman. Front brake (primary brake) on right side with throttle making right had too busy (sportsman does this right with single lever on left side), rear brake terrible not a fan of the wet brake. Overall: excellent quality, plenty of power, fun to ride atv that needs more suspension travel and better brake layout.
The upgraded shock made the KQ so much faster in bumps, whoops and pretty much everything a trail can throw at it that it now rapidly exceeds it's suspension design, Lets see if Sufuki will come up with and updated suspension.
I got a 700 grizzly and a buddy of mine has the new king quad and I can say they are darn close in comparison .. I thinking sitting on both is pretty much the same only the grizzly has lower bars and gives the impression your sitting more on top of the quad .. but the seat on the grizzly has way more cushion.. I feel it handles better and the suspension is better and my friend thinks this also.. the power is very close but feel the grizzly has more low end where the Kingquad has more top end.. fit and finish on both bike are very good .. arched a arms on the grizzly .. and better placed cv intake on grizzly for sure. End of the day I like the looks better on the grizzly but these two machines are about as close as you can get in comparison and booth very well built bikes .. can’t go wrong with either
Alain St-Pierre , don’t know who Tim Horton is, maybe that’s who made the video. This video just lacked any useful information. I have ridden both bikes, IMO the grizzly is better all around quad, at least for how/ where I ride. If the Suzuki were considerably less, I’d buy the king quad, it’s a good quad. In all honesty, comparison videos are always opinion and not facts. In terms of quality, durability, and reliability, nothing better than a Yamaha.
I’ll agree to disagree with you on this. The KQ is leaps and bounds better than it was before, Engine is more responsive, much more control on the CVT, SUSPENSION and handling is by far the most noticeable. The KQ is now what it should have been years ago. It can match the Yamaha Grizzly almost everywhere now and that says a lot for me. I’m a Yamaha fan, I always been. The Grizz is the best sporty ATV in the single cylinder market and still retains that against the Suzuki IMHO but the KQ has the complete package. Yamaha has a workhorse with the Kodiak and the sport with the Grizz. If you want one machine that does a good job doin both, well, the KQ 750 is the way to go.
ATV GUYS didn’t mean to give you the impression that I was knocking the Suzuki, I agree it’s a great quad. All the Japanese brands are of good quality and design. After many years of owning Yamahas, I’m jumping over to can am. I think all 4 of the “j” models are in bad need of a complete redesign, as they are lacking compared to the North American models. Truth be told, it’s hard to go wrong with anything on the market these days, it’s a good time to be enjoying this great hobby.
What makes you think the Suzuki wouldn't be running just as well as the Yamaha? The Japanese motorcycles, ATVs, side by sides, or cars will out last anything. And the big four are all pretty much equivalent when it comes to longevity. It's not like comparing Toyota up against Chrysler...of course Toyota will outlast Chrysler. It's more like you're comparing Toyota cars against Honda cars, they are pretty much equivalent. BTW, my Suzuki Vinson is 13 years old and still running fine.
Start Me Up you're right Suzukis are awesome. Every car Honda makes is on a consumer watch list right now oil corrosion problems gas keeps leaking into their oil. Plus bad Transmissions. I recently purchased a Toyota Tacoma I love it. I wish Suzuki would come back out with a sports quad.
I also have a Suzuki Vinson 500 04 with 6500 miles on it still pulls hard before you talk smack about Suzuki's ask yourself who made the world's first four wheel drive ATV😉
Watch Jacob rice quads videos those kids beat the shit out of there machines, he’s got all the big three Honda Suzuki Yamaha the Yamaha’s they have stay broken down it’s about the same story around here Honda and Suzuki are the only quads I see take abuse and keep coming back for more
I see you understood how close these two ATVs are now. the Yamaha was superior by a few notches before the Suzuki's redesing but now in certain areas the Suzuki is on top. That's the way i'm used to see thing between these two brands.
utah wanderlust700 I’m with yah! My trusty Brute amazes me every time. You can give specs all day on paper, then fire up the Brute V-Twin and it just washes it all away. I still get the involuntary grin every time.
He picked the king for best all around rig, I've ridden (friends have them)both extensively .. grizzly has the superior suspension , king has way better engine imo ...both very close
I had the 19’ king quad, it was pretty good but brakes have very little feel, steering is ok only, and definitely lacking in suspension travel. Traded back to to 20’ grizzly, much happier, handles better, the Suzuki does have a great motor tho...of course all my opinion. You can’t go really wrong with either....
@@PowerSportsQuebec my Yamaha grizzly 700 is heavy mud modified and I love it. I have done every mod on it,it's big ,stronger,more powerful than ever.😁
Whatever floats your boat dude. Seriously, I love the Yammy. I dissed Suzuki for years about the old king quad 750 with no major update in 10 years. Stock for stock, the Suzuki and Yamaha are very close with the sportier one being the Grizzly
Bought new KQ 750 last year - 2019 - basic - no power steering - I'm pretty big boy at 6'2" and 230 lbs so I didn't need power steering - never did, and this machine is great so far - if you have little bit power in your arms no need for power steering and there is almost 0-zero feedback when riding over rocks etc. Says on the title 49.6 hp and I think you can feel all of them
I have the exact same bike as you. I test drove both power steering and non power steering models. The only time I could tell a difference was at low speeds the power steering model turned much easier.
@@TeeLocky i just bought another one, king quad 500 power steering for my wife and yeah there is a bit difference at low speed but i like 750 better 500 has only 38.2hp (that's what title says ) but keeps up just fine
Your size has nothing to do with needing power steering or not. Lol it's about comfort inn the arms at the end of the day, absorbing the sick of hitting rocks and roots all day.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 i was riding couple sport quads and it's a great difference between them and sport utility, like i said before -if you a woman you might need power steering
I've been thinking about buying the 22 KQ 750 without the eps, finally found someone who has one a gave some positive feedback on the machine. Thanks, I think I will purchase the King Quad 750 base model !
I've owned 7 Grizzlies... current grizzly is a 2014... the only reason I'd choose the griz z over the king is because of the foot floor... king feels like driving a bicycle with broken pedals...
Try the 2019 in a demo ride, it's driving position is a little different and the dynamics very different... just try it for shits and giggles you might be surprised. I'm a BIG fan of the Grizzly especially the newer revisions and the KQ caught me off guard cauz i really thought it was not that much different on paper. It's just that good, I dissed the old KQ because it was too soft and too old witohut a major overhaul, guess my wish came true, the KQ 750 edges over the Grizz in my book for the first time in over 10 years.
I guess we just take his word on it as he really didn't compare and contrast them. Who is he anyway? Any credibility? He sounds like he needs another beer or three.
I had plastic/molded racks before. Not very durable, broke the front one twice. I prefer metal, it's durable, better, if you do manage to break it then it can be welded back together.
I understand, as I have replied on this topic here. I was stressed for time, just finished another reviews with guests for TV and my french channel. It’s not an excuse to produce incomplete content I know. I can only promise to do better in the future. Bear with me. Without comments or critics I’m limited in my ability to learn and make our videos more entertaining and informative. I’m just a lifetime mechanic, that’s where i’m at pro level. I’m learning filming, editing and managing my social media platforms as I go. English is also my second language and the first mistake I make is to try and do this in a single take adlib instead of segmenting the takes to make sure I have covered all the bases. That’s my mea culpa. :)
Why make or label the New King Quad 750 a 750 and it’s not its a 722cc & the KQ700 has 700cc. Yeah I grew up on Suzuki. If the 700 beat Grizzly 700 why even do a vs against the KQ750? If I confused you I apologize but you confuse me
Can't compare them, we had a Brute force on hand for blocking off cartains areas for security. its a 2018 unit. it's just way more powerful than the singles but the Kingquad outhandles it brutally
When I was shopping for my atv I was lookig at Bruteforce, Grizzly and Kingquad. I was undecided but finally bought a Bruteforce because of the motor. I figured it would be easier to make the Bruteforce handle better like the Kingquad and Grizzly than to get the Bruteforce power out if the other 2. But I must say I do really like the 2019 King and Grizzly.
The thing I like about my Bruteforce, is that, every time I crack the throttle on it, my smile goes from ear to ear. My Can-Am on the other hand ends up in the shop every time I crack the throttle.
I know the question is kind of off the mark But Honda Yamaha Suzuki and Polaris most of them are Japanese brand four by four wheelers I would think that they are all good personally being biased I would probably go with Honda and Suzuki and Yamaha as a toss-up but back in the day Yamaha the reverse gear was an actual ever down by the motor which I did not like but overall I would think that they would all be pretty good I should hate you
I have a hard time understanding these reviewers, and I've watched a few now, that all take a lumbering, farm/work machine and attempt a review of it by flying through mud puddles on hard packed trails/roads and, for some reason I cannot understand... JUMPING it? I'd like to see a review of these things with a couple hundred pounds of moose strapped onto it and have it tug its way through 20 miles of muskeg. See how good it starts at -30 and hauls 200 lbs of feed through 2 ft of snow out to a feedlot. I've got an 85 YFM 200 and it works a good deal harder than any of these reviews I've seen. These are great quads, no doubt about it, but the reviews do not address what I would consider to be the intended purpose of these machines
Hummm. I review these as trail machines, this is what I do. Everybody knows that an ATV can and should be able to handle some decent work load. Just like what you stated here... Why use a 700cc class ATV for a job a 450 can do? The Grizzly 700 and the new King Quad 750 are evenly matched in trails and close enough in specs for a comparison. The Yamaha is no match for the KQ for a heavy workload. The Kodiak is built for that. So I matched them up in a level playing field. This is not my best video...
@@ATVGUYS Fair enough Sir, and I apologize for tone of my comment. After watching several reviews I was getting frustrated at not seeing anything like what I want a quad for. For simple trail riding, I'd say you did the exact review for that and I appreciate your respectful reply. I'm going to let my comment stand but I am going to amend it so that my tone is less... "snotty". You guys all do us a service and you don't deserve snotty comments for doing it. Thanks
If Yamaha had put a Twin in there it should be a sweet atv, and like the new design on the se with the big tires. But still not much power... Suzuki has done a decent atv this time around, but I have been on Polaris and canam for years...and most other atv brands are way behind both of them if you after a mixed "fun" atv. The new sportsman 1000 and outlander 1000 is just sweet machines..😀
I just sold a 2000 Grizzly 600 and a 2015 Sportsman 570. Over 5000 mi. on the Grizzly and it is still strong and reliable. We are looking at a possibly heavy snowfall in the Cascades this Winter and I don't trust the Polaris to get me through. I have seen 14" of snow overnight and I need something dependable. The Polaris has had 2 master cylinder failures. Generator seems to only work when it feels like it. My neighbor bought one the same day as I did and has had problems with his. It is a 80 mi. round trip to the nearest dealer so bye bye Polaris. It has many good points but I have lost faith in it.
Like I’ve mentioned before, I know I could have done better. I was really on a high note of having the only King quad available in Canada for a very limited time. I made a good video in french with a bunch of rider giving their opinion individually but none of them spoke english so I jumped in made this video all emotional and left a lot on the table.. Sorry, I’m trying to make better content. I promise i’ll do better.
@@ATVGUYS we’re only human my friend, I apologize if I came off like an a hole, I’ll probably get a king quad.... well maybe a grizzly, hell I can’t make up my mind lol
@@duanesnow424 the power steering is waaaay better , foot boards are better , the plastic is way better , Suzuki inner wheel wells flop around . I get 225 km to a tank of fuel .
Based off of reading these comments, I came to the conclusion that they are both really good quads. I see about the same amount of people pulling for both of them.
I will take my 2018 Grizzly LE over all of them..Plenty of power zero issues Ultramatic and 4x4 are best in class..And to top it off out of all the trail rideing and atv park,s me and my crew have been to and ride at I have never seen a Suzuki 750 king quad or anything else for that matter made by Suzuki out on the trail,s...NEVER...
@Anthony Rodriguez If they are going for that much and it,s a base model then yeah pricey.Just traded my 2018 LE for a 2019 SE My local Dealer had these for $9,300 all other,s were $10,999. And got a good deal.You want Quality/Reliability it,s just worth the extra $$$$ to me. It pays for itself Everytime Me and Friends are out on the trails ...
Not a super helpful review. Sorry. Too much stumbling for words. Not enough specifics. "Suspension was nuts." What did you mean? Rides nicer? Handles better? More travel? Help us understand.
@@jasonguy6572 It's all good. If you want to be a youtuber you have to take critics. It all depends on how you take it. I try to make better content but still I am imperfect. Thanks for commenting. Marc
Chuck Demings If Suzukis are junk Yamaha’s are the definition of trash a lot more trouble free high hour Suzuki’s than Yamaha’s around here that’s for sure
Chuck I have own a suzukis since 2011 and I can say everyone that I know that own a Yamaha ( and that is 4 686 Grizzlies, 2 450 Grizzlies 1 550 Grizzly and a Bruin.) as not had the reliability of my 450 King Quad or my neighbors 700 King Quad except for a friend that just bought a 2018 708 which in my option is too early to call. However, I do know that this is just a very small sample of all the king Quad owns and all the Yamaha out there, in my option it shoots lots of holes in your statement that Suzuki in junk.
Ross Tripodi Sure did, if you pay attention in the video you’ll see we had one there. Not the same class of machine. Can’t compare a V-twin monster of an engine to single cylinder machines. Plus the Kawi dates back to the stone age. When Kawasaki wakes up and takes notice that we are in 2020 maybe we’ll get the bad boy 1000 v-twin we should have got like almost 10 years ago.
ATV GUYS sorry bud I must have skipped that bit. The old saying goes why fix something if it ain’t broken. The 750 still pulls harder out of the hole then any 1000 so a 1000 kawi is not needed yet.
@@mirin3181 No prob man, not sure about the Brute being faster then a Can-am 1000 out of the box in stock form. Don't get me wrong here, I like the Brute and it will hang all day with 1000s but take a 1000cc single seat Outlander 1000 and the Kawi is gonna get dusted. Been there, done that many times. The Kawi should be sooo much better, they have the tech to do it. Right now it's way behind on the suspension and handling also, missing that Oomph it used to have when the big vtwins ou parallel we're 800s. It's still a great machine but it desperately needs a refresh.
Current market information point to the suzuki and Yammy to be pretty much neck a neck in term of reliability with a slight advantage for Suzuki. Blame the 708cc Subaru built oil burning engine of recent years for that sharp (for a Japanese company) dip in customer satisfaction in the last ten years. Let's see in a couple of years how the Suzuki's redesign holds up versus the return of the 686cc mill for Yamaha. But in truth, these two are pinacles of ATV goodness with very few bugs over the last decade and a half.
More like Suzuki and Honda got a lot of friends that traded in new 19s that we’re straight shit from day 1 ,I know hellcat channel on RUclips did ,Jacob rice quads Channel got rid of theres Yamaha is not building machines like they use to bottem line ,Suzuki has stepped up big in the quality and reliability department still not as good as Honda but very close
@@shanebarnett4249 If you take the 708cc mill (2015 * 2018) out of the equation, I will keep to exactly what I said. Yeah Hondas are dead reliable but they had their share of issues with the 1st gen dct on the rubicon (hard shift issues) They simple dont have a contender in this large displacement segment with the Rincon 680 that was discontinued. But you can't take a rubicon 500 or the new 620 aginst these units... not a fair fight
I've had both, the KQ is better at everything except the power steering. But Suzuki is too comfortable ruling the 700-750 category, it really is the perfect quad compared to it's in-class competition. if one of the Jap companies or Textron beats Suzuki to the punch going to the big bore category, I don't think it'll be long before Suzuki just dumps the ATV business or just keep hanging on using reputation.
The king quad updated the power steering. It’s 30% stronger now. They have a lot of new features but I think it was all in 2019. 2021 does have plastic racks that’s what I have. So far it’s been an awesome machine but I only have about 15 hours on it ha ha. Coming from Honda the quality seems to be on par
KQ has never "ruled" the 700 class, ever, and still don't. I'm a Honda guy, converted to Yamaha guy now after litterly years of research on my next new bike and lots of seat time on them. Yamaha beats the Suzuki in every spec except total CC which is pointless anyway. Yamaha has the better machine on paper and on the dirt.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 sorry to hear you spent years of research and you still think the Grizzly is superior. Ride both machines and watch actual comparison reviews. Yamaha suspension isn't better even though it has more travel, they have 1 inch more ground clearance with one inch bigger tire. And the King Quad is 50 pounds heavier, and even so the engine on a king quad will walk all over a Grizzly and with better fuel economy. Grizzly has better power steering, that's it. And at $1000 more for a Grizzly, its not worth it unless you only want a Grizzly.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 and never had been the top of it's category? You have the Rincon, Brute Force, Grizzly, Textron, and King Quad that are always being compared. Rincon, Brute Force, and Textron are always at the bottom of the reviews and more often than not, the King Quad has been above the Grizzly. Call it want you want, but that's ruling the 700 class in most everyone's book.
This is comical. KQ has like 6 inches of travel or something silly like that lol. Yamaha is heads and shoulders above Suzuki and Kawasaki. And way above EVERYONE with their CVT. By far the best... nobody even close. Once they slap one of their twins in the grizzly it will be magic
But did you ride them back to back like I did Hayden? Specs is not everything man. FYI the suzuki is using pratically the same bullet proof CVT system with a wet clutch primary drive to drive the cvt. never burned a belt in a KQ either. Ride them back to back and then, you'll see exactly how I felt about the units.
I’ve ridden them back to back a bunch of times and bought the 22 grizzly xtr and man these machines are very very close in comparison .. I chose the grizzly because I prefer the looks but the power steering is spot on for me and I find it handles better and has better low end .. I don’t care about top end as I just traded my 21 outlander 850 .. most important to me is trail speed and I find it’s the real king in the trails..
The KQ cvt is similar, but it ends there. Burned belts Jason more often in a KQ than a Yamaha. Just can't beat that CVT. Yamaha different have a twin that will fit the grizzly or Kodiak without major frame redesign. Therefore, it's very doubtful you will ever see a larger engine in the Yamaha. ATV Drivetrain can't handle the big power without breaking, look at the 2 big boys, always snapping axels and looking for tougher aftermarket diffs. Can't keep that reliability with all that extra power
Suzuki’s cvt has better quality bearings take one apart one time .How bout Yamaha using cheap plastic and not supporting there footwells .Seen 4 off them crack in half once they hit a log lmao .And How bout how they just randomly shut off when steam hits the air box .If that’s your version of quality I feel bad for ya
I have owned a 750 king quad for almost 10 years now no problems what so ever fast smooth and reliable no replacement parts as yet 3500 miles no problem.
10 years only 3500 miles?
William Herrington yeah most people dont ride 200 miles a week dumbass. They use them around the house and only go 4 wheeling once a year
@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 Roger that the guys a clown
@@williamherrington491 the miles add up slow on an offroad machine. Thats why people go off engine hours.
29 miles a month? Honestly that’s quite a bit more than most people. Unless they’re a kid or something that ride all day everyday on mommy and daddy’s gas fund.
LOVE my King Quad. The suspension and acceleration are amazing. Not to mention the beautifully designed body.
I love my 2019
My 18 was fantastic, would have loved the cvt exhaust to be higher, but I got an insane trade in value, I couldn't have sold it privately for more. So I tried out Polaris. Nit disappointed, but I do miss it sometimes
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors wow, I have a Polaris and it's a lot of fun and now I'm thinking about getting a Suzuki also. I wonder what the main difference is.
@@dangrimes5078 the KQ is a short wheelbase. Sofast riding and cornering through the logging roads at high speed is great since the Japanese ATV's have separate brakes you can use just the front to really swing the rear out to get the drift going.
The big single has a good amount of power out of the hole but over 60kmh the power just smoothly goes up unlike my Polaris 850 V-twin that seems to have great power through the whole band.
The KQ is also basically maintenance free. Change the oils and ride, zero grease zerks.
If you don't get power steering, DO NOT get grippy radials like the big horns. You'll have a machine that turns too tight and too easily due to geometry and wheelbase.
I stuck with bias tires 1 size up and it was fantastic.
I would never criticize anyone who buys a KQ.
The only change I would make, if you do water crossings, extend the rear CVT exaustt at min. The airbox can hold nearly a gallon of water before getting to the engine and I had never gotten a single drop of water in the airbox.
I still like the looks of the Grizzly better.
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I have this 19 KQ 750. While I have only plowed snow with it for 5 hours, it is a MUCH stronger engine and engine brake than my 17 Rugged Edition 750.
As we know these 19's have different clutches, shocks, power steering, brake leverage and designs on front and back and more. I cant wait to hit the trails soon here in Western New York
I just took mine out yesterday and love it. Its comfy, powerful, fast enough for me, and will go through anything I want. Lol.
These two machines are very close in comparison .. I chose the grizzly .. better power steering probably best in the industry, better suspension,led lights, better low end power , and I find it handles better.. and yes I drove these bikes back to back many times.. I find sitting in them back to back there very similar but the grizzly has a way more cushioned seat but the handle bars are a bit low for my taste but easy fix with some risers .. all in all either bike would be great to own and if I had to have a second choice it would be the king quad ..
I've had 2 kingquads. 2007 I put 5600 miles on it in 4 years. Never had a wrench on it other than a lug wrench to change tires.
My 2013 has 2000 miles and I replaced the stator last year. Belt, brakes and exhaust are like brand new.
I just bought 2 leftover 2023s a 500 for wifey, and a new 750 for me. I couldn't own anything else just because of the luck that I have had . I know Yamaha, Honda, and Kawasaki are all good, but man I sure love my king and queen quads.
Nothing beats the king quad suzuki
Hell yeah
The brute force does
@@Joe-mp4nw hell no
@@aidancoole4535 The brute is twice as fun as the KQ, I’m pretty sure everyone knows that. The KQ has a smoother ride but doesn’t have that thrill factor the brute has. Kawasaki does need to give the bike an update though. better headlights, better stock tires, more cushion in the seat, etc... just subtle changes and the brute would be the best on the market. They both have their pros and cons but I would pick the brute over the KQ any day.
@@Joe-mp4nw the kawi is ugly as heck and like you said it dont have a good ride and their just as fast as the kawi
More of a review would have been nice. All I got out of that is its radical......what about comparison of different areas of each.
Yeah, Sorry about that Joe, we will do better next time!
I have a 2020 king quad 750, here's my review. The Good: amazing engine and best cvt, best sounding and feeling atv, handling very good. By far the best seating position and seat of any atv. The grizzly you sit on top of, the king quad you sit in it. Its one of those things on paper is never mentioned but so important and rarely discussed. The Bad: the rear brakes are terrible sealed wet brake not worth the tradeoff. Why did they put the front brakes (primary brakes) on the right side with the throttle making the right hand too busy. I much prefer the setup of polaris sportman brakes (single lever and on left side). If you ride somewhere with lots of sharp rocks or tree roots the short suspension travel does become an issue. Conclusion: excellent ATV but Suzuki could make just a few small changes to make it the best.
@@sihyungpark8311 Polaris has the unified braking controlled by one lever. Most Japanese manufactures offer a single lever for which ever brake you want to use. Myself and most experienced riders prefer to use which ever brake that is needed vs the one brake lever does everything. With some more experience you'll get use to and appreciate that right hand brake lever for the front brake and left hand (or foot) for the rear brake. Really hard to brake slide the rear end with a single lever on the bars for both brakes.
@@williamconlon4183 youre being a little presumptuous arent you? I am a very experienced rider with over 4 atvs over last 15 years and several dirt bikes for the last 40 years. For dirt bikes yes a lever for each brake makes sense, for ATVs the single lever for both, or foot pedal for just the rear is preferred by experts also. Also having a rear wet brake (which doesn't work well or feel good) reinforces the preference for a single lever.
@@sihyungpark8311 each to there own and I've got 55 years of riding dirt bikes, 30 years of racing dirt bikes and have owned 4 ATV's (all with dual brake levers) in the last 20 years. With your amount of experience I would think that if you didn't have a ATV or bike that had a rear brake the didn't work, or worthless, you'd buy another. Like I said each to there own!
Sounded more like an old vs new Suzuki not Suzuki vs Yamaha.
How good do the Suzukis start in the cold? like below zero cold
The one I used last winter had no issues, started right up at -25c.
I had problems with the fuelpump relay freezing up. But that was in -25° f temps. Otherwise I've had no problems in any other temps.
Note: after researching I found out people would warm the relay up in their pocket. This has been a problem In other brands as well.
Here's an idea find the words then make a video
No shit.
Looks like Suzuki was listening, the 2021 models on the website show "plastic rack covers". Good video, no doubt 2 of the all time best trail machines imo.
Love that they added composite racks, which hasn't made any mention by any ATV reporting that I've seen. I despise steel racks, the get paint scuffed off, sure you can hook anywhere, but it always slides. And nothing really fits, a 5L can rubbed my rack paint off, caused hazing o the plastics, and it was on there seeming tight as can be.
Plastic racks are the worst damn thing ever in an ATV. I see so many can am and Polaris out on the trails with cracked and or broken plastic racks. That is a major downgrade on an ATV imo
@@jasonmorehouse3756 they are plastic covers the steel racks are still underneath .
Grizzly is king of the woods. I would love to see an update after more real world testing
I have had both brand new. 16 Grizz and 17 KQ. Either is a bullseye, and in my opinion the KQ is a bit better for my needs as I LOVE a wet brake. The Grizz ate brake pads. Also, the KQ is quieter at the rider area as the tranny isnt quite as busy sounding as the Grizz. Again, both are great.
I have a 2000 Kodiak 400, and my uncle had a newer King Quad; I still have mine.
@@donschlonski2936 Go out and test ride the Suzuki, you'll get it as soon as you've ridden it a few minutes
@@ATVGUYS I bought one 2 months ago!! Wow nothing like my fine 17 KQ...its even better by far!!!!!
Polaris is as good as it gets
Do you guys feel it was quick and fun on trails? Debating between this and Brute Force. I know Brute might be a little quicker. Do you feel the KQ was quick enough for you?
Yes mine has good get up and go
Here is the deal I have then both and love them both but if I had only 1 choice it will be the king quad ,
I agree - Marc
Why??? Im very interested. Im in the market. Thanks!!!
I have been riding dirt bikes and quads for 40 years I raced Motocross for 20 of those. All of those on Yamahas so I know what I'm talking about. I have scene Suzuki's Transmissions go south the first time they are put in gear, my brother-in-law has a brand new Suzuki 750 that has already had welds crack. I have a 2006 Grizzly 660 with 14800 MI never had an issue, and I have a 2015 Grizzly 700 with is 1800 miles absolutely zero issues. So first-hand experience yamaha's are the way to go,Hondas are just as reliable.
Well I'm Honda foreman with 80 000 km's so would you say that Yamaha is junk compared to Honda. Because for sure the Yamahas don't stand up like the Hondas. I know they are more capable, but more reliable not a chance
@@paulcu130 that's cute you couldn't even get a Honda Foreman into where we normally go. But they are both very reliable. You got to bring that little Honda Foreman down to the Gila Wilderness and see how you like it.
Agree and I did state that the Foreman won't go where the Grizzly well. Totally agree, but that Grizzly will be in a land fill somewhere while most Foreman are still are still running for Farmers and surveyors
@@paulcu130 well I don't see that happening anytime soon. Like everything else you take care of it it'll last. And I maintain mine well, there is also a reason most of the hunting guides down here run Yamaha because they are dependable and tough.
Now we agree.
WOW>>>My 19 KQ 750 was picked up yesterday. As I mentioned, I have had new grizzlies and a 17 King Quad. (aslo brand new when I bought it) In case you missed it, I picked up a new KQ yesterday, and not a Grizzly. Grizz is awesome and you wont catch me knocking it, but I picked up another KQ!!!
While it has only been ridden in the driveway, the motor and engine brake are WAY MORE NASTY and STRONGER than my 17 Rugged Edition!! I cant wait to hit the trails here in Western NY this weekend. Many people base opinions on machines that they bought used. They also assume the way they ride is the way EVERYONE rides, and that your terrain is EVERYONES terrain. Cmon guys grow up.
@Hunter Qualtrough email me! We have 4 or 5 places we hit all year round!!
Donschlonski@gmail.com
@Hunter Qualtrough waiting for your email to me!
Yup. I grew up and bought a Honda 20 years ago (Honda rancher 350 $5000.00), sold it 2021 for $4500.00. Did nothing other than fuel, oil, filter, tires, insurance. Honda/Yamaha hold value. $500.00 depreciation/21 years. Wish my truck was same.
@@donschlonski2936 did hunter ever email you? Or is he still being scared 😱.
@@goldentrucker7921 never heard a word from him!
I know this means nothing but We had a 1998 teal LT160. Used it every weekend for the next 15 years. Only changed the oil once. Only had to replace the starter and battery. Sold it to a friend for $500 and he uses it every weekend now. We now have a Rhino and swear at it on a regular basis. I know things change and small engines are more reliable but nobody will ever get me to hate on a Suzuki motor. UTVs are great tho.
Your UTV prayers might well be answered by Suzuki soon. Persisting rumors that they are working on a sport / utility machine keeps coming around here and there. With Kawasaki and honda entering the super sport UTV arena, Suzuki will be the only one left not in the game. Being an automotive company, they have the means to do so. Even if the brass at Suzuki keep denying they are working on a UTV, i'm fairly certain it will happen in the near future. -Marc
@@ATVGUYS Cool, hopefully it's more balanced than sport. They just need to make a reliable Rhino-esqe product. Dumpable bed and strong axels
How about the cvt vent location on the KQ? I had a 2015 and water would get splashed in and end up in the cvt. The intake was right behind the throttle side front tire behind the flap.
We have a longtermer coming in soon as a project unit. we will dig in it and find out how it ticks.
@@ATVGUYS thanks! Does the king quad accelerate as fast as the grizzly?
@@mathews0618 better midrange acceleration but the Yamaha takes it up top, relative same top speed though
@@PowerSportsQuebec I felt like my buddies grizzly was snappier than my kq. They were both 2015 models. I appreciate the response
@@mathews0618 not the same engine anymore on the yamaha has an even snappier kick with less torque in the midrange being the 686 shortstroke engine. The latest gen KQ with the new mapping is even better in the midrange but up top the yamme walks away in a dragrace
So the new KQ is better than the old KQ, but how is it better than the Grizz? Didn't give any actual comparison.
In all fairness I shot this segment much too fast right after shooting for my TV show. So yeah, i missed a lot of details that my co-hosts talked about in the french version.
Sorry about that.
My thoughts:
The best all rounder is the KQ. It hauls *ss like never before with the top notch suspension upgrades to flog around an clutch tuning. It's confortable to boot.
The Grizz remains the most fun and the return of the rev happy 686cc yamaha built mill makes it much more fun to keep it high in the rev range. It's faster than the KQ on top speed has better suspension. the one negative is the low rev fueling that is set way to lean to pass emission that turn the Grizz into a rolling BBQ which was what affected the previous subaru built 708cc and caused excessive oil consuming.
Either or and you will not be disappointed, i've always had a softspot for Suzuki motorcycles and have owned many over the years and I'm happy they finally updated the KQ to current standards to compete with Yamaha that was standing alone on top of the mountain in the latest years.
The Suzuki is a really great looking machine.
All of a sudden I’m not happy with my Yamaha’s round lights!
Steel racks are the way to good, positively.
You've lost your mind if you think that Suzuki Is better than the grizzly SMH. The grizzly 686 engine is hands down bulletproof, They weigh significantly less than the king quad, at the same time the grizzly has better fuel capacity, The grizzly looks better the visuals are way ahead of king quad, that thing is ugly af, and the grizzly stock has better ground clearance. In no way is the king quad better than the grizzly. It is worse and you guys didn't give any evidence to back it up because there is no evidence to back up that the king quad is "better" get some facts together before you try to make blind comparisons. Yamaha for life.
I am A king quad lover. I have a 2015 500 and that machine is a great ATV. My buddy just purchased a Yamaha Grizzly 708 2018. He let me take it for a rip and he took mine. I have to say the Yamaha's power was nice and certainly much more than my 500, but less than what I suspected. However, I would rate it about 7.5 out of 10. That being said, that was the only thing that I could even come close to criticizing , this was the most amazing ATV I had ever been on. Smooth, unstoppable refinement , quality and styling all hit the marks for me. I have to say it would be the bike I would buy if i was to purchase now. However, to say that the Grizzly is more reliably than the KQ or Visa Vera just isn't true and from my personal experience my 450 KQ ( I have 2 KQ) has been bullet proof. I would think they would be very close. Finally, comparing it to the new 2019 750 I would think that the Grizzly would edge it out in a head to head, but I do believe it would be close. I totally disagree with you on the styling on the new 750. I think it looks awesome and to say " you've lost your mind if you think that Suzuki Is better than the grizzly " states that you think Grizzly is miles a head and that clearly shows you have never experienced both because if you did you would realize that at best it is only marginally better in a few areas. MHO. Oh and my buddy thinks that in some ways my 500 KQ is better for his style of riding. Just goes to show that it isn't a blow out for Grizzly.
Paul Cumby I have to disagree with you there is nothing that the king quad does better than the grizzly I listed facts you listed “preferences” and to say reliability of a king quad is just as good or better is ignorant lmao Yamaha is known for reliability and very rarely fails you, I can give hard proof and evidence of the reliability if needed . It’s very rare to find a used king quad in decent shape to say the least nowadays.
Jay, just for the record you listed little facts and neither did I. I cleanly used statements of option based on my personal experience and if you read down through this comments section you will see more options from other people, because trying to quantify an ATV's qualification is general all a collection of options from people's experiences. Even when people write reviews of these machines they are nothing more than options. So when you say the King Quad is "ugly" is about as factual as saying oranges taste bad. However, because you seem to be rooted in "facts" lets look at some. You made the statement " there is nothing that the King Quad does better than the grizzly. " So Fact: The King Quad 750 has a larger displacement engine which translates into greater HP. The King Quad is 49.6 Hp compared to the 48.3HP for the 708 and 45.6 for the 686. Fact: On 400 yard sprint the King Quad is faster. There is enough evidence of short races on You Tube of the 2 and I have seen enough races myself first hand to say the Grizzly stock has no chance. Fact. King Quad as a greater top speed. Roughly between 110 km's to 115 km's depending on weather and elevations. Grizzly is 105 KM's on a good day. Now if you are like me none of these things are important. However, to make the statement " there is nothing that the King Quad does better than the Grizzly. " is factually incorrect. So if you are getting facts incorrect it is safe to say that some of your options are based on strong bias for the Grizzly also and not being totally objective. I will revert back to MHO like I stated before. I believe, for what I feel is important to me in an ATV, that between the Grizzly 2019 and the King Quad 2019 the Grizzly edges out the King Quad. However, I think they are so closely matched that which ever gave me the best deal at the time I was buying would be the direction I would take and knowing the reliability of Suzuki first hand could also push me a little harder in the direction of the King Quad.
Okay let me restate myself on why the king quad is a dud compared to the grizzly in a little more detail, other than a few ccs of engine wise lmao.... 1. King quad is 730 lbs/ the grizzly is 692lbs Grizzly wins on that one. 2. The king quad has a ground clearance of 10.2 in/ the grizzlys ground clearance is 11.3 Grizzly wins that one. 3.king quad fuel capacity 4.6 gal/ the grizzly 4.8 and at the same time is more fuel efficient Grizzly wins that one. 4. King quad comes with worse than average 25in stocks/ grizzly comes with 26in maxxis brand tires Grizzly wins that one. 5. King quad springs shocks front and rear coming in at a whopping 6.7 in of travel in the front and 7.7 in of travel in the rear/ The grizzly comes in with 5 way adjustable shocks, which are still not the best by any means but come in at 7.6 inches of travel in the front and 9.1 in the rear , Grizzly wins that one. 6.Visuals can be personal preference but a few things Yamaha does better, King quad is still rocking those outdated halogen lights while Yamaha has incorporated leds, Yamaha has come a long way with their stock rims also. Another great thing Yamaha has added is the new special editions with the 27 in zillas they just look amazing with that red matte black look and or the country blue. I just don't see king quad to the same standard of visuals but that is my OPINION. 7. The King quad is sporting the same engine it's had for years with some small tunes, same with Yamaha but there is talk of the 850 inline going in the grizzly but for now Yes the 750 has a little more power, I can't attest to the reliability of the king quad motor because I've actually never seen anyone that owns a king quad lmao but I can say the grizzly motor is solid but for power reasons, king quad wins one. 8. A Yamaha puts a 10 year limited warranty on their belts just to show how well built that transmission is. I can say Yamaha's cvt is the smoothest setup I've ever ridden on and all ate reviews agree, once again grizzly wins that one. You wanted facts here's the hard truth that a Grizzly is absolutely ahead of the king quad, I can't see a person passing a grizzly for that KiNg QuAd@@paulcu130
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Good review on the ride comparison but more details should be provided. For example, it's worth talking about the engines which are different in size displacement. Yamaha has a 686cc engine and the Suzuki has a 722cc engine. This amounts to and extra 34 cc displacement for the Suzuki. And, that may mean a slight horsepower difference. Yamaha has historically used an awesome drive belt which lasts a very long time. The headlights on the bars is a good feature on both atvs. In Canada most riders like grip warmers, and I like a windshield which makes riding in cooler temperatures more bearable against cold air. Also I hope that these machines are providing a minimum of 26 inch heavier ply tires for durability. A winch is always a useful addition to an atv, as is a trailer hitch. Other then that - I've owned Yamaha but would consider a Suzuki.
Only Yamaha offers a winter package in Canada includinf the windshield, hand and thumb warmer and heated seat, all oem accessories with full factory warranty. Nice eh? We talked with Suzuki Canada execs about bringing such a winter package on the KQ. They did not say no but we've yet to see it.
Both companies offer purchase incentiveslike a free winch a few times per year. Wish they would include the winch all the time. The Yamaha LE with maxxis tires have a 6 ply rating and are inded much better thant the generic Maxxis offered on the base model, the Suzuki's tires are the worst of the two. I wish manufacturers would stop skimping on tires... _ Marc
have a 2001 quad master 500 belt is still going strong . @@ATVGUYS
I have the 2021 KQ 750, its been great so far
Just caught your channel. Looks like you're just getting back into the videos? Always good to have people doing proper reviews of machines and accessories for those of us looking to buy!
i will by atv this week and its not easy to chose.... yamaha or suzuki ??
Nice to get your thoughts and opinions concerning the pitting of these two against each other. Would be nice to see more expansion on this using these two great machines. Let’s be honest. You can’t go wrong with either one of these. But it would be nice to see more testing.
I have a 2020 King Quad 750. The good: awesome drive train, best sounding engine, good power, excellent cvt transmission, best engine braking, seating position perfect where you sit "inside" vs on top like a grizzly (feels wierd and uncomfortable), best seats, handles well, oozes quality just look under the plastic looks like everything is powder coated and seals and wire harnesses are much better than sportman. The bad: suspension travel is too short and you can feel it especially when comparing to a polaris sportsman. Front brake (primary brake) on right side with throttle making right had too busy (sportsman does this right with single lever on left side), rear brake terrible not a fan of the wet brake. Overall: excellent quality, plenty of power, fun to ride atv that needs more suspension travel and better brake layout.
The upgraded shock made the KQ so much faster in bumps, whoops and pretty much everything a trail can throw at it that it now rapidly exceeds it's suspension design, Lets see if Sufuki will come up with and updated suspension.
I got a 700 grizzly and a buddy of mine has the new king quad and I can say they are darn close in comparison .. I thinking sitting on both is pretty much the same only the grizzly has lower bars and gives the impression your sitting more on top of the quad .. but the seat on the grizzly has way more cushion.. I feel it handles better and the suspension is better and my friend thinks this also.. the power is very close but feel the grizzly has more low end where the Kingquad has more top end.. fit and finish on both bike are very good .. arched a arms on the grizzly .. and better placed cv intake on grizzly for sure. End of the day I like the looks better on the grizzly but these two machines are about as close as you can get in comparison and booth very well built bikes .. can’t go wrong with either
Not a very informative video. Obviously you like the king quad, but why? What makes it better?
Alain St-Pierre , don’t know who Tim Horton is, maybe that’s who made the video. This video just lacked any useful information. I have ridden both bikes, IMO the grizzly is better all around quad, at least for how/ where I ride. If the Suzuki were considerably less, I’d buy the king quad, it’s a good quad. In all honesty, comparison videos are always opinion and not facts. In terms of quality, durability, and reliability, nothing better than a Yamaha.
I’ll agree to disagree with you on this. The KQ is leaps and bounds better than it was before, Engine is more responsive, much more control on the CVT, SUSPENSION and handling is by far the most noticeable. The KQ is now what it should have been years ago. It can match the Yamaha Grizzly almost everywhere now and that says a lot for me. I’m a Yamaha fan, I always been. The Grizz is the best sporty ATV in the single cylinder market and still retains that against the Suzuki IMHO but the KQ has the complete package. Yamaha has a workhorse with the Kodiak and the sport with the Grizz. If you want one machine that does a good job doin both, well, the KQ 750 is the way to go.
ATV GUYS didn’t mean to give you the impression that I was knocking the Suzuki, I agree it’s a great quad. All the Japanese brands are of good quality and design. After many years of owning Yamahas, I’m jumping over to can am. I think all 4 of the “j” models are in bad need of a complete redesign, as they are lacking compared to the North American models. Truth be told, it’s hard to go wrong with anything on the market these days, it’s a good time to be enjoying this great hobby.
right on suzuki
Why don't you rank them in five years when the Yamaha still running.
Jeff Macey the Suzuki will be running better if not way better
What makes you think the Suzuki wouldn't be running just as well as the Yamaha? The Japanese motorcycles, ATVs, side by sides, or cars will out last anything. And the big four are all pretty much equivalent when it comes to longevity. It's not like comparing Toyota up against Chrysler...of course Toyota will outlast Chrysler. It's more like you're comparing Toyota cars against Honda cars, they are pretty much equivalent. BTW, my Suzuki Vinson is 13 years old and still running fine.
Start Me Up you're right Suzukis are awesome. Every car Honda makes is on a consumer watch list right now oil corrosion problems gas keeps leaking into their oil. Plus bad Transmissions. I recently purchased a Toyota Tacoma I love it. I wish Suzuki would come back out with a sports quad.
I also have a Suzuki Vinson 500 04 with 6500 miles on it still pulls hard before you talk smack about Suzuki's ask yourself who made the world's first four wheel drive ATV😉
Watch Jacob rice quads videos those kids beat the shit out of there machines, he’s got all the big three Honda Suzuki Yamaha the Yamaha’s they have stay broken down it’s about the same story around here Honda and Suzuki are the only quads I see take abuse and keep coming back for more
I got a 2018 King 750- ill take either one - no competition for me..
I see you understood how close these two ATVs are now. the Yamaha was superior by a few notches before the Suzuki's redesing but now in certain areas the Suzuki is on top. That's the way i'm used to see thing between these two brands.
There is literally no good comparison videos on quads 😐
Really hard to do too.
They both still sound like big singles. My dog makes the same sound when I feed him Hormel chilli.
They both need v twins. Kawasaki for the win!
utah wanderlust700 I’m with yah! My trusty Brute amazes me every time. You can give specs all day on paper, then fire up the Brute V-Twin and it just washes it all away. I still get the involuntary grin every time.
still have that kawi or is it in the junk yard now 4 years later?
@@darrell5363 Still going strong and I just rolled over 26,000 miles on it. I'm loading it up and heading to Moab next weekend.
GREAT review guys!
Two great machines however your review lacked useful information, specifically you’re not concise succinct or relevant in discussion.
He picked the king for best all around rig, I've ridden (friends have them)both extensively .. grizzly has the superior suspension , king has way better engine imo ...both very close
I’ll do better next time... Sorry you did not like my review.
Stella Inverso lol def not in the 2020 the king quad is far far better
David you are flat out lying. He was the definition of succinct concise.
I had the 19’ king quad, it was pretty good but brakes have very little feel, steering is ok only, and definitely lacking in suspension travel. Traded back to to 20’ grizzly, much happier, handles better, the Suzuki does have a great motor tho...of course all my opinion. You can’t go really wrong with either....
Can anything really be better than a grizzly🤔👍📽
Yup, the Suzuki... But, for how long?
@@PowerSportsQuebec my Yamaha grizzly 700 is heavy mud modified and I love it. I have done every mod on it,it's big ,stronger,more powerful than ever.😁
Whatever floats your boat dude. Seriously, I love the Yammy. I dissed Suzuki for years about the old king quad 750 with no major update in 10 years.
Stock for stock, the Suzuki and Yamaha are very close with the sportier one being the Grizzly
Yup. Honda.
Bought new KQ 750 last year - 2019 - basic - no power steering - I'm pretty big boy at 6'2" and 230 lbs so I didn't need power steering - never did, and this machine is great so far - if you have little bit power in your arms no need for power steering and there is almost 0-zero feedback when riding over rocks etc. Says on the title 49.6 hp and I think you can feel all of them
I have the exact same bike as you. I test drove both power steering and non power steering models. The only time I could tell a difference was at low speeds the power steering model turned much easier.
@@TeeLocky i just bought another one, king quad 500 power steering for my wife and yeah there is a bit difference at low speed but i like 750 better 500 has only 38.2hp (that's what title says ) but keeps up just fine
Your size has nothing to do with needing power steering or not. Lol it's about comfort inn the arms at the end of the day, absorbing the sick of hitting rocks and roots all day.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 i was riding couple sport quads and it's a great difference between them and sport utility, like i said before -if you a woman you might need power steering
I've been thinking about buying the 22 KQ 750 without the eps, finally found someone who has one a gave some positive feedback on the machine. Thanks, I think I will purchase the King Quad 750 base model !
I've owned 7 Grizzlies... current grizzly is a 2014... the only reason I'd choose the griz z over the king is because of the foot floor... king feels like driving a bicycle with broken pedals...
Try the 2019 in a demo ride, it's driving position is a little different and the dynamics very different... just try it for shits and giggles you might be surprised. I'm a BIG fan of the Grizzly especially the newer revisions and the KQ caught me off guard cauz i really thought it was not that much different on paper. It's just that good, I dissed the old KQ because it was too soft and too old witohut a major overhaul, guess my wish came true, the KQ 750 edges over the Grizz in my book for the first time in over 10 years.
I can find the words… The grizzly will always be the best
Test ride the 2019 Suzuki for shits and giggles... and get back to me. You understand then.
@@ATVGUYS YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!
I guess we just take his word on it as he really didn't compare and contrast them. Who is he anyway? Any credibility? He sounds like he needs another beer or three.
Sounds like someone owns a Yamaha
I had plastic/molded racks before. Not very durable, broke the front one twice. I prefer metal, it's durable, better, if you do manage to break it then it can be welded back together.
They’re not plastic racks, they’re plastic covers.
Drag Race ?? Cmon guys!
Why? that isnt a criteria for shit in a utility quad. Grow up
@@donschlonski2936 yikes.. that's a little harsh.. you can't steal my joy
@@soundnessofmind7196 lol just referencing the drag racing criteria. Ride on!
heres the 2018 vs 2019 kq 750 dragrace ruclips.net/video/aNDI4YAVR4U/видео.html
Proves shit on a utility quad. Shit.
It's radical, it's awesome and no real reason why is not a review. Please provide more information more "why".
I understand, as I have replied on this topic here. I was stressed for time, just finished another reviews with guests for TV and my french channel. It’s not an excuse to produce incomplete content I know. I can only promise to do better in the future. Bear with me. Without comments or critics I’m limited in my ability to learn and make our videos more entertaining and informative. I’m just a lifetime mechanic, that’s where i’m at pro level. I’m learning filming, editing and managing my social media platforms as I go. English is also my second language and the first mistake I make is to try and do this in a single take adlib instead of segmenting the takes to make sure I have covered all the bases.
That’s my mea culpa. :)
Why make or label the New King Quad 750 a 750 and it’s not its a 722cc & the KQ700 has 700cc. Yeah I grew up on Suzuki. If the 700 beat Grizzly 700 why even do a vs against the KQ750? If I confused you I apologize but you confuse me
32mpd they didn’t do a kingquad 700
Yamaha copied Suzuki body style and diff lock engagement
The buttons for the diff lock are different. Yamaha has too many. My king quad much easier to switch.
How did Yamaha copy the King Quad body style Yamaha and Suzuki have never looked like each other.
So how does that Bruteforce rank vs the Grizzly and Kingquad?
Can't compare them, we had a Brute force on hand for blocking off cartains areas for security. its a 2018 unit. it's just way more powerful than the singles but the Kingquad outhandles it brutally
@@ATVGUYS Thats what I figured. Brutes need shocks and tires then they are a whole new beast.
When I was shopping for my atv I was lookig at Bruteforce, Grizzly and Kingquad. I was undecided but finally bought a Bruteforce because of the motor. I figured it would be easier to make the Bruteforce handle better like the Kingquad and Grizzly than to get the Bruteforce power out if the other 2. But I must say I do really like the 2019 King and Grizzly.
The thing I like about my Bruteforce, is that, every time I crack the throttle on it, my smile goes from ear to ear. My Can-Am on the other hand ends up in the shop every time I crack the throttle.
@@MrNismopro . lol... They are a lot of fun arent they.
I know the question is kind of off the mark But Honda Yamaha Suzuki and Polaris most of them are Japanese brand four by four wheelers I would think that they are all good personally being biased I would probably go with Honda and Suzuki and Yamaha as a toss-up but back in the day Yamaha the reverse gear was an actual ever down by the motor which I did not like but overall I would think that they would all be pretty good I should hate you
And you gauged this based on riding it on dirt roads? 🙄
I have a hard time understanding these reviewers, and I've watched a few now, that all take a lumbering, farm/work machine and attempt a review of it by flying through mud puddles on hard packed trails/roads and, for some reason I cannot understand... JUMPING it? I'd like to see a review of these things with a couple hundred pounds of moose strapped onto it and have it tug its way through 20 miles of muskeg. See how good it starts at -30 and hauls 200 lbs of feed through 2 ft of snow out to a feedlot. I've got an 85 YFM 200 and it works a good deal harder than any of these reviews I've seen. These are great quads, no doubt about it, but the reviews do not address what I would consider to be the intended purpose of these machines
Hummm. I review these as trail machines, this is what I do. Everybody knows that an ATV can and should be able to handle some decent work load. Just like what you stated here... Why use a 700cc class ATV for a job a 450 can do? The Grizzly 700 and the new King Quad 750 are evenly matched in trails and close enough in specs for a comparison. The Yamaha is no match for the KQ for a heavy workload. The Kodiak is built for that. So I matched them up in a level playing field. This is not my best video...
@@ATVGUYS Fair enough Sir, and I apologize for tone of my comment. After watching several reviews I was getting frustrated at not seeing anything like what I want a quad for. For simple trail riding, I'd say you did the exact review for that and I appreciate your respectful reply. I'm going to let my comment stand but I am going to amend it so that my tone is less... "snotty". You guys all do us a service and you don't deserve snotty comments for doing it. Thanks
@@darrylwbraun Don't apologize Darryl, I understand your point of view. :)
Yep i'm dumb founded 2
If Yamaha had put a Twin in there it should be a sweet atv, and like the new design on the se with the big tires. But still not much power... Suzuki has done a decent atv this time around, but I have been on Polaris and canam for years...and most other atv brands are way behind both of them if you after a mixed "fun" atv.
The new sportsman 1000 and outlander 1000 is just sweet machines..😀
I just sold a 2000 Grizzly 600 and a 2015 Sportsman 570. Over 5000 mi. on the Grizzly and it is still strong and reliable. We are looking at a possibly heavy snowfall in the Cascades this Winter and I don't trust the Polaris to get me through. I have seen 14" of snow overnight and I need something dependable. The Polaris has had 2 master cylinder failures. Generator seems to only work when it feels like it. My neighbor bought one the same day as I did and has had problems with his. It is a 80 mi. round trip to the nearest dealer so bye bye Polaris. It has many good points but I have lost faith in it.
you made a comparison video without a bit of detail, comparison or explanation. Congratulations.
This was a very disappointing video, I was on the fence about purchasing one of these and this was no help
Like I’ve mentioned before, I know I could have done better. I was really on a high note of having the only King quad available in Canada for a very limited time. I made a good video in french with a bunch of rider giving their opinion individually but none of them spoke english so I jumped in made this video all emotional and left a lot on the table..
Sorry, I’m trying to make better content. I promise i’ll do better.
@@ATVGUYS we’re only human my friend, I apologize if I came off like an a hole, I’ll probably get a king quad.... well maybe a grizzly, hell I can’t make up my mind lol
Traded a 2019 king 750 on a grizzly XTR 2020 glad I did . Yamaha is way better .
I what ways was the grizzly better?? Im stuck between buying one of these
@@duanesnow424 the power steering is waaaay better , foot boards are better , the plastic is way better , Suzuki inner wheel wells flop around . I get 225 km to a tank of fuel .
@@duanesnow424 it’s not at all the king is superior I then the overpriced grizzly
Yamaha is better becouse i have one!!! :-) #poncinif46
Based off of reading these comments, I came to the conclusion that they are both really good quads. I see about the same amount of people pulling for both of them.
Radical
Yamaha plz
faites faires de la pub par dautre chaines ou des marques vous avez beaucoup de potentiel
plastic racks instead of metal?? wtf nobody wants that
Personal taste dude. Seriously, they are quite sturdy and way better looking than tubes.
I will take my 2018 Grizzly LE over all of them..Plenty of power zero issues Ultramatic and 4x4 are best in class..And to top it off out of all the trail rideing and atv park,s me and my crew have been to and ride at I have never seen a Suzuki 750 king quad or anything else for that matter made by Suzuki out on the trail,s...NEVER...
@Anthony Rodriguez If they are going for that much and it,s a base model then yeah pricey.Just traded my 2018 LE for a 2019 SE My local Dealer had these for $9,300 all other,s were $10,999. And got a good deal.You want Quality/Reliability it,s just worth the extra $$$$ to me. It pays for itself Everytime Me and Friends are out on the trails ...
Anthony Rodriguez if you thinks that's high go check can am prices and Polaris cost more and break more also
If you’ve never seen a Suzuki atv on the trails you don’t ride much haha
I bought a new KQ, for many reasons... and imma post lots of vids of it tearing up the trail
Not a super helpful review. Sorry. Too much stumbling for words. Not enough specifics. "Suspension was nuts." What did you mean? Rides nicer? Handles better? More travel? Help us understand.
Sorry, it was a bad day. I promise i'll do better next time.
@@PowerSportsQuebec Sorry if i was critical and negative. At least you were trying to put out content. I respect that.
@@jasonguy6572 It's all good. If you want to be a youtuber you have to take critics. It all depends on how you take it. I try to make better content but still I am imperfect. Thanks for commenting. Marc
All take the Suzuki any day
King Quad is a great Quad.
Suzuki's are junk
Chuck Demings If Suzukis are junk Yamaha’s are the definition of trash a lot more trouble free high hour Suzuki’s than Yamaha’s around here that’s for sure
Chuck I have own a suzukis since 2011 and I can say everyone that I know that own a Yamaha ( and that is 4 686 Grizzlies, 2 450 Grizzlies 1 550 Grizzly and a Bruin.) as not had the reliability of my 450 King Quad or my neighbors 700 King Quad except for a friend that just bought a 2018 708 which in my option is too early to call. However, I do know that this is just a very small sample of all the king Quad owns and all the Yamaha out there, in my option it shoots lots of holes in your statement that Suzuki in junk.
@@paulcu130 . I guess you are one of the lucky ones they just don't have the quality that Yamaha does and there is no denying that.
Will be at this bickering all day mines better than yours blah blah blah 🙄
He hasn’t ridden a brute 750 😉
Ross Tripodi Sure did, if you pay attention in the video you’ll see we had one there. Not the same class of machine. Can’t compare a V-twin monster of an engine to single cylinder machines. Plus the Kawi dates back to the stone age. When Kawasaki wakes up and takes notice that we are in 2020 maybe we’ll get the bad boy 1000 v-twin we should have got like almost 10 years ago.
ATV GUYS sorry bud I must have skipped that bit. The old saying goes why fix something if it ain’t broken. The 750 still pulls harder out of the hole then any 1000 so a 1000 kawi is not needed yet.
@@mirin3181 No prob man, not sure about the Brute being faster then a Can-am 1000 out of the box in stock form. Don't get me wrong here, I like the Brute and it will hang all day with 1000s but take a 1000cc single seat Outlander 1000 and the Kawi is gonna get dusted. Been there, done that many times.
The Kawi should be sooo much better, they have the tech to do it. Right now it's way behind on the suspension and handling also, missing that Oomph it used to have when the big vtwins ou parallel we're 800s. It's still a great machine but it desperately needs a refresh.
ATV GUYS all good man point taken 👌
Yeah wait till u blow head gaskets or need a rebuild and it cost twice as much
suzuki the best ever
Use both quads for 5 years and the Yamaha will out last any machine out there hands down.
Current market information point to the suzuki and Yammy to be pretty much neck a neck in term of reliability with a slight advantage for Suzuki. Blame the 708cc Subaru built oil burning engine of recent years for that sharp (for a Japanese company) dip in customer satisfaction in the last ten years.
Let's see in a couple of years how the Suzuki's redesign holds up versus the return of the 686cc mill for Yamaha. But in truth, these two are pinacles of ATV goodness with very few bugs over the last decade and a half.
More like Suzuki and Honda got a lot of friends that traded in new 19s that we’re straight shit from day 1 ,I know hellcat channel on RUclips did ,Jacob rice quads Channel got rid of theres Yamaha is not building machines like they use to bottem line ,Suzuki has stepped up big in the quality and reliability department still not as good as Honda but very close
@@shanebarnett4249 If you take the 708cc mill (2015 * 2018) out of the equation, I will keep to exactly what I said.
Yeah Hondas are dead reliable but they had their share of issues with the 1st gen dct on the rubicon (hard shift issues) They simple dont have a contender in this large displacement segment with the Rincon 680 that was discontinued. But you can't take a rubicon 500 or the new 620 aginst these units... not a fair fight
No comparison, Yamaha all the way.
Sorry, terrible review.
I can only promise we will try our best to be better.
I've had both, the KQ is better at everything except the power steering. But Suzuki is too comfortable ruling the 700-750 category, it really is the perfect quad compared to it's in-class competition. if one of the Jap companies or Textron beats Suzuki to the punch going to the big bore category, I don't think it'll be long before Suzuki just dumps the ATV business or just keep hanging on using reputation.
The king quad updated the power steering. It’s 30% stronger now. They have a lot of new features but I think it was all in 2019. 2021 does have plastic racks that’s what I have. So far it’s been an awesome machine but I only have about 15 hours on it ha ha. Coming from Honda the quality seems to be on par
KQ has never "ruled" the 700 class, ever, and still don't. I'm a Honda guy, converted to Yamaha guy now after litterly years of research on my next new bike and lots of seat time on them. Yamaha beats the Suzuki in every spec except total CC which is pointless anyway. Yamaha has the better machine on paper and on the dirt.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 sorry to hear you spent years of research and you still think the Grizzly is superior. Ride both machines and watch actual comparison reviews. Yamaha suspension isn't better even though it has more travel, they have 1 inch more ground clearance with one inch bigger tire. And the King Quad is 50 pounds heavier, and even so the engine on a king quad will walk all over a Grizzly and with better fuel economy. Grizzly has better power steering, that's it. And at $1000 more for a Grizzly, its not worth it unless you only want a Grizzly.
@@jasonmorehouse3756 and never had been the top of it's category? You have the Rincon, Brute Force, Grizzly, Textron, and King Quad that are always being compared. Rincon, Brute Force, and Textron are always at the bottom of the reviews and more often than not, the King Quad has been above the Grizzly. Call it want you want, but that's ruling the 700 class in most everyone's book.
This is comical. KQ has like 6 inches of travel or something silly like that lol. Yamaha is heads and shoulders above Suzuki and Kawasaki. And way above EVERYONE with their CVT. By far the best... nobody even close. Once they slap one of their twins in the grizzly it will be magic
But did you ride them back to back like I did Hayden? Specs is not everything man. FYI the suzuki is using pratically the same bullet proof CVT system with a wet clutch primary drive to drive the cvt. never burned a belt in a KQ either. Ride them back to back and then, you'll see exactly how I felt about the units.
I’ve ridden them back to back a bunch of times and bought the 22 grizzly xtr and man these machines are very very close in comparison .. I chose the grizzly because I prefer the looks but the power steering is spot on for me and I find it handles better and has better low end .. I don’t care about top end as I just traded my 21 outlander 850 .. most important to me is trail speed and I find it’s the real king in the trails..
The KQ cvt is similar, but it ends there. Burned belts Jason more often in a KQ than a Yamaha. Just can't beat that CVT.
Yamaha different have a twin that will fit the grizzly or Kodiak without major frame redesign. Therefore, it's very doubtful you will ever see a larger engine in the Yamaha. ATV Drivetrain can't handle the big power without breaking, look at the 2 big boys, always snapping axels and looking for tougher aftermarket diffs. Can't keep that reliability with all that extra power
Suzuki’s cvt has better quality bearings take one apart one time .How bout Yamaha using cheap plastic and not supporting there footwells .Seen 4 off them crack in half once they hit a log lmao .And How bout how they just randomly shut off when steam hits the air box .If that’s your version of quality I feel bad for ya
The real king is Can Am
King of what?