I've ridden all of these machines, and the only one that excites me is the Brute. I'd never feel bad about having a KQ or a Grizz in my garage, but they just don't make me want to get out and hit the trails like the Brute does. I guess, to put it another way, the KQ is a good tool like a nice Snap On socket wrench. It works awesome and, every time I open my tool box, I am proud of it and glad it's in there. But I don't look forward to the next time I need to wrench something so I can use it. The Brute is like a toy that you can't put down. It makes you want to go use it. It makes you want to get out and go explore that new trail. It makes you smile every time you start it up and hear that sweet sound. To me, the best ATV has to do that to me or it's just another tool I have to change the oil on!
I got a 2007 Rincon 680 with over 12,000miles (20,000km) and I got to its a reliable bike. One of the reasons I stick to Honda cause it's the only company that hasn't gone to a cvt transmission. It shifts just fine for me and if those guys think it's to complicated to shift 3 speeds they shouldn't be riding bikes 😂
Yeah. That was so stupid. ITS AN Automatic! YOU don't ever have to shift it. It's just there if u want it. I HAVE a 05 Rincon 650 and like it. HONDAS go forever. No other company can claim that they make a Machine on par w Honda. None!
Love my brute force. I have a 06. 650. Solid rear axel. No problems yet. Use it every day. We live off frid so it caryies a lot of stuff and pulls a small trailer every say. I have changed the front axels once a month ago. The tourqe from the 650 is awesome. My next one wil be the 750
I still have an 06 KQ700 and it has been hands down the best utility quad I have owned. Zero problems, just normal maintenance through the years and still runs as new. Yeah it has its little flaws as all atvs do which can be found on any atv forum. No, not a drag racer but its mostly due to the clutching and ignition timing. There is potential in that engine to be unlocked if you wanted too. I've owned vtwin atvs and the torque and acceleration is fun, but my King has plenty for what I do. Nothing wrong with a Grizz either, good atv's and my second choice also. I just like the third headlight for plowing snow and night trail riding. Also as mentioned before the rear wet brake, and the parking brake and smooth shifting from forward to reverse. The constant tension cvt makes engine braking very nice and not jerky like some other atv's I have ridden. I ride with big Can Ams and Polaris all the time and don't feel I'm missing anything in the trails.
Honda need to get off there ass and build a new machine that is not only for farmers. Honda have great engines that last for ever time to make a 850 big bore twin that has looks power and the great Honda reliablity
@Jacob Del Bene I had a CBR 1000RR I bought new in around 2015. That would probably be enough power for one that complains about lack of power. Just have to gear correctly. Doubt even the most hardcore keyboard professional riders would need 160+ mph on a trail.
Rincon needs updated in a major way or phased out. I love Honda, but they need to get themselves back to #1 and the new 1000 engine in a new flagship rincon is a great way to get there.
Agreed. I drove their 1000 pioneer. It felt more like driving a big golf cart unfortunately.. That rincon has looked almost completely the same since 06'
I know and they've yet to put anything new on it for years including power steering. I would almost bet Honda is working something new and exciting, but most likely it will be a utility.
I just went for a long rip in the woods in upstate New York in my dad's new 750 King quad and it's hands down badass. push button 4wd , quick diff lock everything about it's just smooth
Landy Burkland Not sure I understand your reasoning. We didn't use a Kawasaki or Suzuki 700 was because they don't exist (nor do Honda or Yamaha 750s). At this level, 50cc is not a terribly big deal. In fact, the 686cc Grizzly was quicker (marginally) than the 722cc KingQuad in our speed runs and received the same engine power scores on each of our four scorecards - and both have the same $9,499 USD price tag. These are the flagship ATVs for each of the four manufacturers and are the very definition of comparable.
Yamaha uses more aggressive clutching than Suzuki but the KK 750 still puts out more hp with more top end speed in my experience ... Both great bikes if higher speeds isn't an issue
grizlly have a really good transmision.. really good fuel efiency, ultility and trail usage top one.. others are just atv, honda transmision sound like its some broke on that 9:33
I just got a 2019 750 se. It has some beef with it. Lol. In sure there is faster but it's perfect for me. And yes the tires werent the best but for what I'm doing now will work. When I need a new set I will get some better unless I absolutely have to.
Liked your honest opinion on what you guys thought was the top dog. I have a Grizzly 700 & love it. All the machines are great machines & they do take a ton of abuse out there. So hats off to all for making such rugged machines & to you ATV.com for a great video. Thanks.
I just bought a kingquad qnd to me it was down to yamaha and suzuki. Honda is reliable on the engine, but trail riding I enjoy with what I bought so far.
I own a 2020 750 brute force brand new. I'm a extremely always in the mountains and l love the brute force way better. My option after watching this video. #1 2020 Brute Force 750 I love it
I love how well it handles. I adjust my shocks for better handling. Keeping my front low for climbing hills. The shocks on back a little high. Works well no trail problems yet.
ATV probley feel sorry for Suzuki because all these years they never win and feel Suzuki is giving up so in a close comparision give them the victory and hoping Suzuki will keep there spirits up and get back into the game
Very informational I like it a lot the dirt bike magazines should take after you. I've watched 3 different 450 shootouts between 3 different magazines and all of them were lame with little to no information
Seems to me you will get completely different reviews of the same machines,given the tester age group!!! In saying this,for the "old fart" review this is right on the money!!!! Now lets test the same machines with a younger test group,and i will bet the outcome will be drasticly different!!!!!
I wonder if the same riders who thinks the Rincon transmission is to complicated and a CVT is better are the same people who hate them in automobiles. CVT's are better all around (except for towing. Hopefully one will be released that can tow over 5k).
I own an 09 Brute and I would have picked it especially based on these guys tiny little things they picked apart while praising the others . But of course I`m biased
I have rode all makes and models I currently own a King Quad I've had this thing for years and have heavily modified it for our mud riding have never then anything mechanically other than for improvements for my type of riding your typical maintenance oil changes brakes and what not so I do have to agree it is King of Kings feel free to check out some of my build videos of the king
Honda is the best handling and least tippy of the bunch. Much easier to roll the other three on tight turns and of camber trails. Honda is the lightest as well. So it sinks less in mud and with better tires its awesome in mud. I have tow Hondas and love them.
Don't mind the kingquad winning, but I disagree with some of the statements. I've owned suzukis and kawasaki's and have put thousands of miles on both and have had some experience with the grizzly's over the years as well. While it's true that the grizzly is snappier than the kinquad, the kawasaki has considerably more power than them both which was noted rightfully so in this video. However the difference in power between a brute force and a grizzly is a much bigger gap than the gap between the king and grizzly. Also, the burte force is actually not really "stiff suspension" The kingquad is actually a lo stiffer and has more clearance but you feel a smoother ride with the brute, probably is even smoother than the grizzly but I can't say for sure. The only quad that is "considerably smoother riding" is a polaris. Also, the suzuki was noted for having excellent brakes, yet the kawasaki and suzuki brakes are nearly the same considering they were merged at one point and it was suzki that took kawasaki's system. Like I said, don't mind the suzuki winning, but the info in this vid is only half accurate. I'm sure these people rode them and everything but I'm a guy that's had more seat time on those than just about anyone lol. The suzuki's advantages are simple: clearance, third light, more fuel efficient, less maintenence. The kawasaki however has much more low end power, stronger and beefier frame/racks, the best engine breaking in the business and don't forget that slightly easier power steering feel. Which brings me too the yamaha which I would have placed third because the power steering assist is very excessive by comparison and while its gt good clearance it has a top heavy feel compared too thhe other japanese makes, I also don't really care much for the engine even though it was stated too be the second fastest. Both the kawasaki and suzukis engine have superior efi mapping. The suzuki has an extremely smooth engine which at times will make the yamaha feel snappy by comparison however the suzuki really shines by having a smooth engine that has a mid range-high rpm hit that the others don't have. It's very likely these distance tests were short distance because the suzuki has the highest top speed of all of them. In reality, the suzuki has the second most powerful engine, its just the way the engine is set up that makes it seem weaker than the yamaha. Also, the kawasaki and suzuki are way more sporty than the top heavy yamaha, so I would have actually had a hard time choosing between kawasaki and suzuki myself.
Very true and agree, the kq has taller gearing. The grizz isnt bad either but I did prefer the king which is why I bought it instead. I absolutely hate polaris tbh but not as much as I hate arctic cat. I had an arctic cat, was nothing but problem after problem and was top heavy and hard to manuever. One reason I like the king so much is cause it handles so well.
The japanese brands will always be the most reliable. I would chose can-am over arctic cat or polaris easily though. Honestly though, the biggest advantage can-am has is power. Most people don't know this but the can-am 800 was never really much faster than the brute 750. The can am had more mid and top but the brute hits harder on the bottom. You're only getting a significant power advantage with the 1000. As the vid showed the griz, king and brute could all keep up with each other in most situations though. Realistically, it could be argued the japanese models are more for the money.
He's close too right, I have a 2012 model which is the same. I will say though, after riding a can-am 1000 I can say its the fastest thing I've ever ridden. From 0-40 I can say though, the can-am 1000 wouldn't be too far ahead of it, needs more distance first but I've rode both and the difference is definitely there but not as big as you'd think it should be until you really pin them. As far as the arctic cat 1000 is concerned the brute should take it actually.... the polaris 1000 is fast on mid and top but lacks low end as well. I've got bigger tires than stock on mine and it still will lift the front wheels if I'm cruising at 10-20 mph on pavement and I just decide too slam he throttle. The can am 1000 might very well do that at 30 mph if we're talking renegade.
+Mike D Well, I'm not gonna lie, kawasaki's have had valve issues in the past. I had a 650 SRA (not independent rear) brute that had that problem, but I did get it fixed (expensive though). As for the 2012's I can say that they are a lot tougher machines overall with improved frame, suspension, engine characteristics. It is my impression and experience that it is more reliable. The weight was increased on the 2012 due to tougher parts but they increased the power to make up for it. I have had mine for three years with no issues. However, I didn't put heavy miles on it like I did the 650. I put 4000 miles on the 650 and only 1800 on the 750 within 3 years. I myself wasn't afraid too buy one even though I myself actually hated the 2011 750. The old 750 had a very uncontralable throttle and the chasis was terrible. As for the hp ratings, I don't pay much attention too them in the atv world (or torque ratings for that matter). It's mostly measured at the crank instead of the rear wheels anyways. A good example i the 650 sra I had, there were plenty of 500's that had 40 hp which is what it had but that 650 was very quick, not as quick as the 750 brute but tbh even it had more throttle response than any of the single cylinders at the time I rode it. Only an 800cc or bigger engine would give it a hard time (not including its bigger brother). I'm not sure what horror stories you're referring to, chance are I've heard of them too, but I had solid conffidence in he 2012 model and while one day something "may" happen, it hasn't yet. The kinquad I had was a 2006 model before eps 750's and I put 6,400 miles on it. I'm very familiar with the 750 version however as I've spent plenty of time on most big bore, especially suzuki's. Truth be told I trust kawasaki more than most brands. Suzuki may be more reliable overall most of the time but even the most reliable quads have issues when they are pushed and most kawi riders are hardcore riders. The older suzuki's like mine had electrical problems, the newer one's are a little better from what I've seen. My suzuki zapped every battery I put in it. I would say suzuki is as reliable as they get too, kawasaki is probably in the top three though, the only atv's I'm terrified of reliability wise tbh is Polaris and Arctic Cat. I used too say can-am's but they've come along ways, but still lack Japanese brand reliability. Also, I've never been a honda fan, I hate their transmission, they never know what gear they are in and their big bore gets out run by 500's.
thelendof089 just bought a 16' brute and I tested a 16' grizz at the same time on the dealerships track. The grizz had better back breaks and the better suspension feel when it came to tipping. Yamaha changed the 16' suspension stance a lot this year and it does ride way different. But the brute is so much fun with actual throttle response at low speeds. The grizz can do all they want to there machines, the brute force is simply a fun ride that no one can match.
I like the Japanese brands all four are awesome I look for longevity and reliability If you’re going to spend $10,000 might as well Make it count The big 1000s out there are nice but They don’t seem as well-made
The 1000's are reliable for what they are. The Brute Force in the video has 50hp, the 1000's are pushing out over 90hp, almost double. That much power takes it's toll on drive train and steering components. If you drop a 90hp motor in any of the four quads in this video and the extra hp would tear them apart.
@@pnwdweler4100 very good point reminds me of my old diesel truck from 25 years ago it wouldn’t compare to these new ones that make more than double the power but that thing lasted forever lol Have a great day
***** It's not all the fault of the marketing. Suzuki has more or less ignored ATVs for half a decade or more. The trouble they had with the EPA in regards to the LT-R450 put a hurting on them. It's also weird that we still haven't seen a Suzuki UTV. That's more than half the four-wheel off-road market now.
I know this thread is ancient but: you think Suzuki ignores ATVs and puts their R and D recourses in MX dirt bikes? Or did they revamp the 2017 supersports?
Suzuki is probley thinking let the horsepower/cc wars settle down then build something once instead of waisting money on multiple different moulds/castings by producing 800 then 900 then 1000 etc
Well I think the honda would be a better pulling trailer or what ever . No belt no break you can pull heavy things that's why they made like that not made to sink in a mudhole
I agree with Honda coming in 4th it does need updated a bit but I do not agree at all with the Grizzly in 1st I have one and they are not at all what these guys have to say about them the amount of storage is very limited the seat is comfortable but all around a rough ride and the handle bars take a while to get use to
I want to put all terrain tires on my 2014 Honda rancher 420. I want the tires to go on all types of terrain but if I find a mud hole I want them to go easily through it. What do you recommend
DeereMaster445 I'm guessing being 4 months u already got tires but the mudlites seem to b pretty good my dad and I both have them along with 2 of my friends I live in Ohio so one day it's 60 dry and sunny then the next it's 10 and snowing 6 inches of snow and we don't seem to have to big of a problem with them and ware good too
Great video production. But while the hosts seem like nice genuine guys, they've got to go. It's like listening to Ben Stien read a note card about ATV's.
ATV.com Yes it would be great to see the Suzuki KingQuad 500 in a mid-size shootout. I haven't seen one in a shootout yet, and the reviews on that bike are from 6 years ago in 2009 ( www.atv.com/manufacturers/suzuki/2009-suzuki-kingquad-500axi-review-1529.html ). I would like to see how it fairs against the competition.
Id never buy anything but my brute force. I run over trees that most people go around. This thing is a beast. I have 3. A 650 sra 07. And a 2012 750i. And a 2015 750i. Problems. I've had non. I use my bikes daily cause I live off grid.
I beat my bf 750 maintain it with oil and gear oil replacement. Use throttle controll, and run moto monsters 30 inch tires. Spending tlc on your machine building for stregth and power while controling throttle will be the best bet. I find it fund up grading and maintaining. And im still below the price of a brand new 1000cc canam tricked out with my used bruteforce 750 that sounds just as good, goes anywhere they can. Sometimes I pull them out sonetimes they pull me out. Its not brand its throttle contol, maintence, spending money on right parts just not engine parts. And working on it yourself so u kno every nut and bolt on the quad there sinple to work on. Buy a 400 peice tool set and get to work. Or scroung tools like I do its a pain
Apparently the radiator is just in a bad spot, get a rad kit and it will fix that issue. I still love the brute and would take it over any of these ATV’s KQ second
ok Honda now that you have the farming industry happy with your ATV, its time to dance with the other companies and build something that isn't always over looked, Honda has reliability and their machine can take copious amounts of shit and abuse and still keep running just for the love of god we want more power! Bottom line I wish Honda would look at what the other guys are doing, Honda needs to aim for first place not last place, maybe Hondas attention is elsewhere and ATV's are really nothing to worry about..... anyhow I have the kawaski.....
+zakyum personaly I think that a factory third light is a joke, just do what i did, spend 80 bucks to get 1 of the higher end, bar mounted, pivot any which way spot lights, use it for extra travel light when needed or whatever, then when not needed take it off or pivot it out of the way in about a minute or less to free up clutter in the handle bar area, and help with forward visibility over the bars.
I find your videos to be quite informative. But fellas, please put some life into your chat, listening to you guys is more boring than watching grass grow.
like they said the brute force is good strict trail and terrain mud doest cruise well with the rpms has 4 stupid little timing chains that will stretch out way before ever think about taking suzuki apart.
If these bikes were really tested by rough terrain the Brute force would come out on top. I've owned a grizzly, ridden both Hondas and Suzukis and none of these bikes beat the raw power of the dual cylinder BF 750. I currently own a 2010 BF 750 and there's not a situation that bike can't get me out of! All great bikes. But if you want an absolute beast, get you the muscle of the bunch...the Kawasaki brute force!
I doubt it, the dude has owned Grizzly and rode the others so he knows the scoop. That raw power is right here, and right now!!! when you touch the throttle on a Brute. There is no ATV on the planet with more available aftermarket upgrades than the Brute. It is one bad machine stock, it can be upgraded to severely baddass easily and on the cheap plus it simply has the coolest name and best looks. And, trail chicks love it :)
I've ridden all of these machines, and the only one that excites me is the Brute. I'd never feel bad about having a KQ or a Grizz in my garage, but they just don't make me want to get out and hit the trails like the Brute does. I guess, to put it another way, the KQ is a good tool like a nice Snap On socket wrench. It works awesome and, every time I open my tool box, I am proud of it and glad it's in there. But I don't look forward to the next time I need to wrench something so I can use it. The Brute is like a toy that you can't put down. It makes you want to go use it. It makes you want to get out and go explore that new trail. It makes you smile every time you start it up and hear that sweet sound. To me, the best ATV has to do that to me or it's just another tool I have to change the oil on!
I have a Brute 650 and 750. I understand small details make these lists but I love my Brutes to death!
It's good to see the King Quad getting some praise. I think the King Quad, Grizzly, and Brute Force represent the best all-around quads in production.
I got a 2007 Rincon 680 with over 12,000miles (20,000km) and I got to its a reliable bike. One of the reasons I stick to Honda cause it's the only company that hasn't gone to a cvt transmission. It shifts just fine for me and if those guys think it's to complicated to shift 3 speeds they shouldn't be riding bikes 😂
I have a Rincon to, once I heard shifting gears was too complicated this review lost all credibility.
I think Honda Rincon is the best Atv
Yeah. That was so stupid. ITS AN Automatic! YOU don't ever have to shift it. It's just there if u want it. I HAVE a 05 Rincon 650 and like it. HONDAS go forever. No other company can claim that they make a Machine on par w Honda. None!
@@dmitrytim5348got to love the good ole 300 fourtrax
@@dmitrytim5348worst it has 800 Pound towing capacity which is less than a damn 250
The brute has adjustable suspension too if it’s too stiff,
3rd place for the brute? ITs the most fun you can get out of an all terrain vehicle! The sound the torque, is just on a next level between all four.
Love my brute force. I have a 06. 650. Solid rear axel. No problems yet. Use it every day. We live off frid so it caryies a lot of stuff and pulls a small trailer every say. I have changed the front axels once a month ago. The tourqe from the 650 is awesome. My next one wil be the 750
I still have an 06 KQ700 and it has been hands down the best utility quad I have owned. Zero problems, just normal maintenance through the years and still runs as new. Yeah it has its little flaws as all atvs do which can be found on any atv forum. No, not a drag racer but its mostly due to the clutching and ignition timing. There is potential in that engine to be unlocked if you wanted too. I've owned vtwin atvs and the torque and acceleration is fun, but my King has plenty for what I do. Nothing wrong with a Grizz either, good atv's and my second choice also. I just like the third headlight for plowing snow and night trail riding. Also as mentioned before the rear wet brake, and the parking brake and smooth shifting from forward to reverse. The constant tension cvt makes engine braking very nice and not jerky like some other atv's I have ridden. I ride with big Can Ams and Polaris all the time and don't feel I'm missing anything in the trails.
Honda need to get off there ass and build a new machine that is not only for farmers. Honda have great engines that last for ever time to make a 850 big bore twin that has looks power and the great Honda reliablity
If they made a old school vtec engine on one I would have bought it vs my kingquad 750. Haha you may be able to put a 1.6 motor on one. Lol
@Jacob Del Bene I had a CBR 1000RR I bought new in around 2015. That would probably be enough power for one that complains about lack of power. Just have to gear correctly. Doubt even the most hardcore keyboard professional riders would need 160+ mph on a trail.
naw man. it'll out perform anything in the mud
Rincon needs updated in a major way or phased out. I love Honda, but they need to get themselves back to #1 and the new 1000 engine in a new flagship rincon is a great way to get there.
Agreed. I drove their 1000 pioneer. It felt more like driving a big golf cart unfortunately.. That rincon has looked almost completely the same since 06'
I know and they've yet to put anything new on it for years including power steering. I would almost bet Honda is working something new and exciting, but most likely it will be a utility.
More likely would be a 720 rincon with power steering and better shocks.to compete with the king quad and brute
I just went for a long rip in the woods in upstate New York in my dad's new 750 King quad and it's hands down badass. push button 4wd , quick diff lock everything about it's just smooth
Awesome review. I like and appreciate how you added the specs to the review. No other group testing these machines has ever done this. Good job.
Landy Burkland Not sure I understand your reasoning. We didn't use a Kawasaki or Suzuki 700 was because they don't exist (nor do Honda or Yamaha 750s). At this level, 50cc is not a terribly big deal. In fact, the 686cc Grizzly was quicker (marginally) than the 722cc KingQuad in our speed runs and received the same engine power scores on each of our four scorecards - and both have the same $9,499 USD price tag. These are the flagship ATVs for each of the four manufacturers and are the very definition of comparable.
Yamaha uses more aggressive clutching than Suzuki but the KK 750 still puts out more hp with more top end speed in my experience ... Both great bikes if higher speeds isn't an issue
grizlly have a really good transmision.. really good fuel efiency, ultility and trail usage top one.. others are just atv, honda transmision sound like its some broke on that 9:33
Love my 2021 BF750. So light and powerful.
waiting for the next shootout.... i have a 2016 suzuki king quad 750 axi. the thing is a beast....
the stock tires on it is what really hurts it. you cannot judge it with those. i run 26 inch swamplites. amazing all around sno mud trail rock tire.
I just got a 2019 750 se. It has some beef with it. Lol. In sure there is faster but it's perfect for me. And yes the tires werent the best but for what I'm doing now will work. When I need a new set I will get some better unless I absolutely have to.
Love the video guys, me and my wife ride a 09 bf750 and her 08 King quad 750. Very different quads but there solid
Liked your honest opinion on what you guys thought was the top dog. I have a Grizzly 700 & love it. All the machines are great machines & they do take a ton of abuse out there. So hats off to all for making such rugged machines & to you ATV.com for a great video. Thanks.
I just bought a kingquad qnd to me it was down to yamaha and suzuki. Honda is reliable on the engine, but trail riding I enjoy with what I bought so far.
I’m a Honda dude but I agree Honda needs to remake the rincon
Great review all good bro I bought a 520 rubbicon 1.5 year's ago I made the wright choice cheers
I would pick the brute.. 100%
Now that we have th Rincon back after an update and Brute Force after a redesign, i would love to see this comparison again for 2024.
I grew up with the Suzuki King I love the Suzuki
Would like to see a similar video with the new 2022 models
I got a king quad 450 and i love it to heaven and back its the best quad out there
I knew that the king quad would win. You cant beat the zuke. But there all great machines
I own a 2020 750 brute force brand new. I'm a extremely always in the mountains and l love the brute force way better. My option after watching this video. #1 2020 Brute Force 750 I love it
How does it do in slow technical trails? Climbing?
I love how well it handles. I adjust my shocks for better handling. Keeping my front low for climbing hills. The shocks on back a little high. Works well no trail problems yet.
@@OutdoorTonez How's it compare to the outlander? I haven't ridden either
It's a match they are both fast bikes. One is a 750 & the other 1000. Brute Force power Baby. I happy with the brute.
the king quad deserves this in my opinion.
lucasdstrong did u even watch the video
I have the brute force and I love it.
This guy is really your spokesperson?Hahaha
Would like to see an updated video with the 2020/21 models
Nothing has really changed, Polaris and Can am are in a class by themselves if you want a true sport 4x4.
I think the grizzly should of won
James Cowton You are not alone, James. It was a close call.
I believe the suzuki won because of the "light" hmmm
well my picks came 2 then 3
ATV probley feel sorry for Suzuki because all these years they never win and feel Suzuki is giving up so in a close comparision give them the victory and hoping Suzuki will keep there spirits up and get back into the game
James Cowton they had nothing negative to say about the Griz and did about the King Quad but they chose the King Quad. Lol,go figure. 🤔
Very informational I like it a lot the dirt bike magazines should take after you. I've watched 3 different 450 shootouts between 3 different magazines and all of them were lame with little to no information
Yamaha should have won that
Brute force vtwin and sport suspension for fun fun fun. The others are for farmers
I guess that makes sense but it like a frog
Which is the most reliable?
Love me some King Quad!
Love this video... why not do one this / every year?
Seems to me you will get completely different reviews of the same machines,given the tester age group!!!
In saying this,for the "old fart" review this is right on the money!!!!
Now lets test the same machines with a younger test group,and i will bet the outcome will be drasticly different!!!!!
Honda’s motor will outlive every other atv motor everbuilt
Because it doesnt make any power to break anythint
Actually the 680 has all sorts of motor problems. It's pretty much their worst atv engine for reliability lol
I have a beginner question. Why is the turning radius different from left to right? Thanks for the video.
to not destroy EPS calibration, becauze eps its easy to control but that mean radius its more close
I just purchased a NEW king quad 750
I wonder if the same riders who thinks the Rincon transmission is to complicated and a CVT is better are the same people who hate them in automobiles. CVT's are better all around (except for towing. Hopefully one will be released that can tow over 5k).
I would have picked the brute force
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Bikingfordays I'm with you man brute force shoulda came out on top
Bikingfordays I own a Brute Force and I wouldn't have picked it. Lol
@Six Mile Creek Productions I own a Brute Force, and would have picked it. You probably suck at riding.
I own an 09 Brute and I would have picked it especially based on these guys tiny little things they picked apart while praising the others . But of course I`m biased
Be nice to get an updated comparison.
Yamaha all the way!!!
+Ninjuk Amen
Ninjuk Yamaha, honda, and kawasaki are just as good in my opinion.
I have rode all makes and models I currently own a King Quad I've had this thing for years and have heavily modified it for our mud riding have never then anything mechanically other than for improvements for my type of riding your typical maintenance oil changes brakes and what not so I do have to agree it is King of Kings feel free to check out some of my build videos of the king
Honda is the best handling and least tippy of the bunch. Much easier to roll the other three on tight turns and of camber trails. Honda is the lightest as well. So it sinks less in mud and with better tires its awesome in mud. I have tow Hondas and love them.
Lucky Goose lol.kawi is 650 lbs and vtwin. Better tires and stiffer suspension u can adjust to fling it around better than any yamaho
Team Yamaha all the way
Grizzly is the best
brute is way fun. blurp. twin power put to the tires. seriously is fun
Don't mind the kingquad winning, but I disagree with some of the statements. I've owned suzukis and kawasaki's and have put thousands of miles on both and have had some experience with the grizzly's over the years as well. While it's true that the grizzly is snappier than the kinquad, the kawasaki has considerably more power than them both which was noted rightfully so in this video. However the difference in power between a brute force and a grizzly is a much bigger gap than the gap between the king and grizzly. Also, the burte force is actually not really "stiff suspension" The kingquad is actually a lo stiffer and has more clearance but you feel a smoother ride with the brute, probably is even smoother than the grizzly but I can't say for sure. The only quad that is "considerably smoother riding" is a polaris. Also, the suzuki was noted for having excellent brakes, yet the kawasaki and suzuki brakes are nearly the same considering they were merged at one point and it was suzki that took kawasaki's system. Like I said, don't mind the suzuki winning, but the info in this vid is only half accurate. I'm sure these people rode them and everything but I'm a guy that's had more seat time on those than just about anyone lol. The suzuki's advantages are simple: clearance, third light, more fuel efficient, less maintenence. The kawasaki however has much more low end power, stronger and beefier frame/racks, the best engine breaking in the business and don't forget that slightly easier power steering feel. Which brings me too the yamaha which I would have placed third because the power steering assist is very excessive by comparison and while its gt good clearance it has a top heavy feel compared too thhe other japanese makes, I also don't really care much for the engine even though it was stated too be the second fastest. Both the kawasaki and suzukis engine have superior efi mapping. The suzuki has an extremely smooth engine which at times will make the yamaha feel snappy by comparison however the suzuki really shines by having a smooth engine that has a mid range-high rpm hit that the others don't have. It's very likely these distance tests were short distance because the suzuki has the highest top speed of all of them. In reality, the suzuki has the second most powerful engine, its just the way the engine is set up that makes it seem weaker than the yamaha. Also, the kawasaki and suzuki are way more sporty than the top heavy yamaha, so I would have actually had a hard time choosing between kawasaki and suzuki myself.
Very true and agree, the kq has taller gearing. The grizz isnt bad either but I did prefer the king which is why I bought it instead. I absolutely hate polaris tbh but not as much as I hate arctic cat. I had an arctic cat, was nothing but problem after problem and was top heavy and hard to manuever. One reason I like the king so much is cause it handles so well.
The japanese brands will always be the most reliable. I would chose can-am over arctic cat or polaris easily though. Honestly though, the biggest advantage can-am has is power. Most people don't know this but the can-am 800 was never really much faster than the brute 750. The can am had more mid and top but the brute hits harder on the bottom. You're only getting a significant power advantage with the 1000. As the vid showed the griz, king and brute could all keep up with each other in most situations though. Realistically, it could be argued the japanese models are more for the money.
He's close too right, I have a 2012 model which is the same. I will say though, after riding a can-am 1000 I can say its the fastest thing I've ever ridden. From 0-40 I can say though, the can-am 1000 wouldn't be too far ahead of it, needs more distance first but I've rode both and the difference is definitely there but not as big as you'd think it should be until you really pin them. As far as the arctic cat 1000 is concerned the brute should take it actually.... the polaris 1000 is fast on mid and top but lacks low end as well. I've got bigger tires than stock on mine and it still will lift the front wheels if I'm cruising at 10-20 mph on pavement and I just decide too slam he throttle. The can am 1000 might very well do that at 30 mph if we're talking renegade.
+Mike D Well, I'm not gonna lie, kawasaki's have had valve issues in the past. I had a 650 SRA (not independent rear) brute that had that problem, but I did get it fixed (expensive though). As for the 2012's I can say that they are a lot tougher machines overall with improved frame, suspension, engine characteristics. It is my impression and experience that it is more reliable. The weight was increased on the 2012 due to tougher parts but they increased the power to make up for it. I have had mine for three years with no issues. However, I didn't put heavy miles on it like I did the 650. I put 4000 miles on the 650 and only 1800 on the 750 within 3 years. I myself wasn't afraid too buy one even though I myself actually hated the 2011 750. The old 750 had a very uncontralable throttle and the chasis was terrible. As for the hp ratings, I don't pay much attention too them in the atv world (or torque ratings for that matter). It's mostly measured at the crank instead of the rear wheels anyways. A good example i the 650 sra I had, there were plenty of 500's that had 40 hp which is what it had but that 650 was very quick, not as quick as the 750 brute but tbh even it had more throttle response than any of the single cylinders at the time I rode it. Only an 800cc or bigger engine would give it a hard time (not including its bigger brother). I'm not sure what horror stories you're referring to, chance are I've heard of them too, but I had solid conffidence in he 2012 model and while one day something "may" happen, it hasn't yet. The kinquad I had was a 2006 model before eps 750's and I put 6,400 miles on it. I'm very familiar with the 750 version however as I've spent plenty of time on most big bore, especially suzuki's. Truth be told I trust kawasaki more than most brands. Suzuki may be more reliable overall most of the time but even the most reliable quads have issues when they are pushed and most kawi riders are hardcore riders. The older suzuki's like mine had electrical problems, the newer one's are a little better from what I've seen. My suzuki zapped every battery I put in it. I would say suzuki is as reliable as they get too, kawasaki is probably in the top three though, the only atv's I'm terrified of reliability wise tbh is Polaris and Arctic Cat. I used too say can-am's but they've come along ways, but still lack Japanese brand reliability. Also, I've never been a honda fan, I hate their transmission, they never know what gear they are in and their big bore gets out run by 500's.
thelendof089 just bought a 16' brute and I tested a 16' grizz at the same time on the dealerships track. The grizz had better back breaks and the better suspension feel when it came to tipping. Yamaha changed the 16' suspension stance a lot this year and it does ride way different. But the brute is so much fun with actual throttle response at low speeds. The grizz can do all they want to there machines, the brute force is simply a fun ride that no one can match.
Kawasaki the best!!!
It look like a frog
the brute force is a hidden mud monster, tires and all those goodies and shes unstopable
Kodiak will be my next atv!
I like the Japanese brands all four are awesome
I look for longevity and reliability
If you’re going to spend $10,000 might as well
Make it count
The big 1000s out there are nice but They don’t seem as well-made
Do you think Yamaha kodiak base model are reliable??
@@rubenmv91 yes I would say so
The 1000's are reliable for what they are. The Brute Force in the video has 50hp, the 1000's are pushing out over 90hp, almost double. That much power takes it's toll on drive train and steering components. If you drop a 90hp motor in any of the four quads in this video and the extra hp would tear them apart.
@@pnwdweler4100 very good point reminds me of my old diesel truck from 25 years ago it wouldn’t compare to these new ones that make more than double the power but that thing lasted forever lol
Have a great day
The grizzly is still the top selling big bore atv
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***** It's not all the fault of the marketing. Suzuki has more or less ignored ATVs for half a decade or more. The trouble they had with the EPA in regards to the LT-R450 put a hurting on them. It's also weird that we still haven't seen a Suzuki UTV. That's more than half the four-wheel off-road market now.
I know this thread is ancient but: you think Suzuki ignores ATVs and puts their R and D recourses in MX dirt bikes? Or did they revamp the 2017 supersports?
chicken It's hard to say why Suzuki hasn't done much with the ATV lineup in recent years. We just hope we get to see some new Suzuki products soon.
Suzuki is probley thinking let the horsepower/cc wars settle down then build something once instead of waisting money on multiple different moulds/castings by producing 800 then 900 then 1000 etc
Well I think the honda would be a better pulling trailer or what ever . No belt no break you can pull heavy things that's why they made like that not made to sink in a mudhole
Are they all similar in reliability and maintenance?
Pretty much, the Brute will need the belt replaced way before the Yamaha and Suzuki.
LOL the only quad here that doesnt look like a toy is the yamaha, its too classy for this
I agree with Honda coming in 4th it does need updated a bit but I do not agree at all with the Grizzly in 1st I have one and they are not at all what these guys have to say about them the amount of storage is very limited the seat is comfortable but all around a rough ride and the handle bars take a while to get use to
I know this is an old video, just wondering why you didnt include polaris or canam?
Are they Japanese or American?
This was the Japanese quad showdown.
I want to put all terrain tires on my 2014 Honda rancher 420. I want the tires to go on all types of terrain but if I find a mud hole I want them to go easily through it. What do you recommend
DeereMaster445 I'm guessing being 4 months u already got tires but the mudlites seem to b pretty good my dad and I both have them along with 2 of my friends I live in Ohio so one day it's 60 dry and sunny then the next it's 10 and snowing 6 inches of snow and we don't seem to have to big of a problem with them and ware good too
A lift kit, when your hung underneath tires don't matter.
Great video production. But while the hosts seem like nice genuine guys, they've got to go. It's like listening to Ben Stien read a note card about ATV's.
I hope Honda never gets cvt
Great video!
I'm waiting for the mid-size test!;)
We've reviewed all the major mid-size ATVs on the site, but a shootout between the top contenders would be fun.
ATV.com Thanks!
I'll check them!:)
ATV.com Yes it would be great to see the Suzuki KingQuad 500 in a mid-size shootout. I haven't seen one in a shootout yet, and the reviews on that bike are from 6 years ago in 2009 ( www.atv.com/manufacturers/suzuki/2009-suzuki-kingquad-500axi-review-1529.html ). I would like to see how it fairs against the competition.
They don’t know anything the brute force is the best
I love mine King quad!
@Brandan Redden how has it held up im looking for one and wondering
I know this was a Japanese shootout of the atv but how can you have the king atv in Polaris I know it's not Japanese but its top of the food chain
ROFLMAO..... top of a mechanic's food chain....
Suzuki FTW!!
Can you guys add the polaris sportsman 850/1000 and can ann
Cobra Viper why they will break
king quad Is the best for me
polaris is the only front and rear locked atv why would you buy one of these if your not locked?
Love my Can-Am.
sldl04 xt 1000 all the way
Brute stiff suspension? Wow what are they looking for a lazy boy?
Hahah ikr
Excellent
Suzuki .....!
Where is the Polaris?
@Yance Taylor da no kidding doofus
K A W A S A K I for me!!!!!!!!
Why it looks like a frog
Fernando Contreras but has the most power and best ride.
Grizz should've won
Honda all the way
Id never buy anything but my brute force. I run over trees that most people go around. This thing is a beast. I have 3. A 650 sra 07. And a 2012 750i. And a 2015 750i. Problems. I've had non. I use my bikes daily cause I live off grid.
I beat my bf 750 maintain it with oil and gear oil replacement. Use throttle controll, and run moto monsters 30 inch tires. Spending tlc on your machine building for stregth and power while controling throttle will be the best bet. I find it fund up grading and maintaining. And im still below the price of a brand new 1000cc canam tricked out with my used bruteforce 750 that sounds just as good, goes anywhere they can. Sometimes I pull them out sonetimes they pull me out. Its not brand its throttle contol, maintence, spending money on right parts just not engine parts. And working on it yourself so u kno every nut and bolt on the quad there sinple to work on. Buy a 400 peice tool set and get to work. Or scroung tools like I do its a pain
Am I missing the point because Honda's are made in America. South Carolina to be specific.
Chiasson Productions no they are assembled in the U.S there made in japan
honda is the best
I have a 2017 brute force 750, why does it put off so much heat?
2 spark plugs on that V-Twin making more explosions in the motor maybe?
BTW I have an 09` Brute and its the baddest boy around my area :)
I own a 2020 brute force. It has a v Twin and gives out more heat. Nice in the winter
@@OutdoorTonez nice in the winter but not in the summer
The v twin engine gives more heat. It's fine lots of power. Just a brute force thing. Enjoy that big engine
Apparently the radiator is just in a bad spot, get a rad kit and it will fix that issue. I still love the brute and would take it over any of these ATV’s KQ second
ok Honda now that you have the farming industry happy with your ATV, its time to dance with the other companies and build something that isn't always over looked, Honda has reliability and their machine can take copious amounts of shit and abuse and still keep running just for the love of god we want more power! Bottom line I wish Honda would look at what the other guys are doing, Honda needs to aim for first place not last place, maybe Hondas attention is elsewhere and ATV's are really nothing to worry about..... anyhow I have the kawaski.....
Guarantee the Honda will last the longest
Ashton I agree
Only yamaha for real riders. Honda is good for farmers 😎
Sadly Suzuki eliminated the handle bar headlight (3rd light) on the 2016 models, and now the Yamaha has added one
zakyum Crazy maybe yama will be king now lol
+zakyum personaly I think that a factory third light is a joke, just do what i did, spend 80 bucks to get 1 of the higher end, bar mounted, pivot any which way spot lights, use it for extra travel light when needed or whatever, then when not needed take it off or pivot it out of the way in about a minute or less to free up clutter in the handle bar area, and help with forward visibility over the bars.
yall should have used the Honda Foreman
I use a king quad
GRIZZLY ALL THE WAY!
I find your videos to be quite informative. But fellas, please put some life into your chat, listening to you guys is more boring than watching grass grow.
like they said the brute force is good strict trail and terrain mud doest cruise well with the rpms has 4 stupid little timing chains that will stretch out way before ever think about taking suzuki apart.
# 4 pick will still be running when the other 3 are junked out
a twin 700 in a grizzly would put all others out of business. hurry up yamaha! maybe the phazer motor??????
Kevin hahaha kawi already put yamaha out of bussiness with its vtwin
Any for 2016 shootout
We've got a Sport UTV shootout coming for ATV.com, though we weren't able to get video organized.
No utv
Grizzly is best
expensive atv's but all great , but for'' young ppl''' buying it a strain 9000.00 come on companys drop the prices.
If these bikes were really tested by rough terrain the Brute force would come out on top. I've owned a grizzly, ridden both Hondas and Suzukis and none of these bikes beat the raw power of the dual cylinder BF 750. I currently own a 2010 BF 750 and there's not a situation that bike can't get me out of! All great bikes. But if you want an absolute beast, get you the muscle of the bunch...the Kawasaki brute force!
Jeremy S of course your gonna brag the atv you own up, just means u made a mistake buying that kind the longer you own it the more your understand
I doubt it, the dude has owned Grizzly and rode the others so he knows the scoop.
That raw power is right here, and right now!!! when you touch the throttle on a Brute.
There is no ATV on the planet with more available aftermarket upgrades than the Brute.
It is one bad machine stock, it can be upgraded to severely baddass easily and on the cheap plus it simply has the coolest name and best looks.
And, trail chicks love it :)
Yamaha is made in the us
Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki ATVs are also made in the U.S.