How can a guy with almost 300 LOSSES in his career and the all time leader in walks be the 6th best right handed starter of all time. Above Seaver? If I had one game to win and had to choose between those 2, I'd take Seaver every time. Ryan was a .500 pitcher because of the walks, not because of the teams he played on. Look at Steve Carlton, Walter Johnson or Seaver.
@@barrygeorge7066 That's one season out of 27. He got the walks under control later in his career, but he led the league in walks 8 times in 11 seasons. No way he is above Seaver, who led his league wins 3 times, ERA 3 times and never in walks.
@@username-zj9id Seaver was a stud, no doubt. I'm just glad to see a list that goes back more than 10 years! A lot of them don't. Walter Johnson may have been the best, and he played a hundred years ago.
I have nothing against Nolan Ryan....greatest strikeout pitcher ever obviously, his longevity was absurd. But....he wasn't as good as Jim Palmer, Catfish, Juan Marichal to name a few. I like your Pedro Martinez pick....and analysis.
Bob Feller not in top 5!? Big oversight. 266 wins despite missing almost 4 years in military during WWII. 2581 Ks during era when players didn’t strike out 100X per year. Come on!'
I get a lot of of flak for not mentioning Feller. Definitely an oversight on my behalf. However, he still does not make my top ten. Satchel is the GOAT!
Ryan was a highlight film. But his win-loss was no better than the teams he played on. Would you want Nolan or Fergie Jenkins or Marichal or Gibson etc pitching game 7 of a WS?
Interesting! But if Satchel Paige is number 1 ... where does that leave Smokey Joe Williams? There are so many players who saw both and/or who played against both Paige and Williams who felt Williams the greatest of the two! Ty Cobb felt that had Williams been allowed to pitch in the major leagues “he would have won 30 games every year.” Tough call and I respect your choices! Thanks for posting it.
In 1999 Pedro won the pitcher’s Triple Crown (K/W/ERA). But that’s not it. He won five more games than anyone else, his ERA was a full point better than anyone else, and he struck out 100 batters more than anyone else. And in 2000 he was just as good. …and you forgot Ol’ Hoss Radbourne.
Loved this man! Thanks for including Gibby- although I might have bumped him a little higher! (Cardinal fan- sorry). Totally agree with Paige at 1. And I hated seeing Maddux so high, but it’s so true. Dude was a painter.
I'm 74, lived in San Francisco, and grew up watching many great players. I loved/hated Gibson. I thought he and Dave Stewart were the most menacing appearing pitchers I watched. Gibson's '68 season may be the best single-season any pitcher had. In 34 appearances, he was 22-9, 28 complete games, 13 shutouts, struck out 268 batters, and in 304 innings gave up 38 runs with an ERA of 1.12. He won the Cy Young/MVP/4th Gold Glove.
I feel like Dean should have similar consideration to Koufax, only difference was when their ineffectiveness and dominance occurred during their respective careers
sorry but in all honesty the turn of the century pitchers just can't be on the list,hell it was a completely different game then.. if you could pitch both ends of a double header that says it all
Love that you put Satchel Paige #1. Totally agree. I wouldn't argue against any of these picks with the exception of Nolan Ryan. I think his longevity and strikeout and no-hitter totals are incredible but overall, I don't think he makes the top 10 mainly because his ERA+ isn't high enough and walks are too numerous. Juan Marichal or Fergie Jenkins at #10.
Good list. All are worthy of consideration, but can't overlook Bob Feller. He lost 4 prime years serving his country in WW2, otherwise he probably would have won 350 games Don't want to say whom he should replace, but I can think of 5 pitchers on your list whom he should outrank.
No argument with Satchel. Others who may be in the 11-20 group: Jim Palmer, Dwight Gooden, Don Drysdale, Jim Bunning, Jack Morris, Gaylord Perry, Don Sutton.
1- Wallter Johnson 2- Christy Mathewson 3- Grover Clev. Alexander 4 - Roger Clemens 5 - Tom Seaver 6 - Greg Maddux 7 - Juan Marichal 8 - Bob Gibson 9 -Jim Palmer 10 - Pedro Martinez & Bob Feller.
1. Walter Johnson 2. Tom Seaver 3. Roger Clemens 4. Cy Young 5. Greg Maddux 6. Christy Mathewson 7. Grover Alexaner 8. Pedro Martinez 9. Nolan Ryan 10. Bob Gibson I have no idea how to rate Nolan Ryan. Pedro just didn't have the endurance and got pulled from WAY too many games in the 6th inning due to pitch count for me to rate higher. As always I leave off the negro leaguers because I just don't pretend to know. I imagine Paige would otherwise be up there.
Clemens was a juicer and a headhunter in the league that did not make him go to the plate. Gibson had to go take at bats, Don Drysdale for one was just as hard throwing and willing to go inside on anyone. Before the DH pitchers faced retaliation personally, Clemens was a phony tough guy.
Greg Maddux had the brain and the accuracy, and Randy Johnson had the intimidating power, enough to give me the best ever from both sides of the rubber. Pedro Martinez is probably 1A from the right side.
Ryan never won a Cy Young because he was considered a thrower, not a pitcher. When his fastball was in the strike zone, good things happened. When it wasn't, he walked an MLB-record 2,795 batters.
@davidwilliamson2341 Great choices, but this video was righties only. Here is Gentry's Top-10 All-Time Lefties. ruclips.net/video/ecoLFwZZC6k/видео.html
A list of ten right-handed starters without Bob Feller. JOKE! Listen to who Williams and DiMaggio, the greatest hitters of his generation, talk about how was the toughest they ever faced. NOBODY was even CLOSE to Feller in a 20 year span!
You talk about Williams and DiMaggio, but none of the pitchers on his list are from that generation. All the pitchers from the 40’s and 50’s are underrated.
Have to disagree with Nolan Ryan. Despite his spectaculars, he was little better than a .500 pitcher, third all-time in losses while only fourteenth in wins.
Gibson as 10! Yikes. He had a season with an E.R.A. of 1.16. They lowered the mound because of him. Who else generated a rule change. Ryan as 6th, not high enough. 7 no-hitters.
You lose ALL credibility by leaving Bob Feller off this list. First ballot HOF'er, 3 no no's, set single season strike out record and was a beast of a workhorse. Regularly lead the league in innings pitched with over 300+ ... and often had more complete games than wins (but won 24-27 games regularly).
Roger had TWO games with 20 Ks. Deserving of his place in your Top Ten. Too bad all those guys got on the juice. They were all timers without it, as their career numbers pre-steroids show.
Your list is a joke Bob Feller is probably the greatest RHP of all time and nobody would even argue that. He Easily wins 350-370 Games if he had not served in WW2 and he was the first baseball player to enlist to fight in the War even before Ted Williams signed up to fight. He had 3 no hitters and only him and Nolan Ryan hold the record for most 1 hitters with 12 he had (6) 20 win seasons and was also a World Series Champion. He has a record of 266 Wins with 2,581 Strikeouts with a 3.25 ERA did I forget to mention he missed 3.5 years of his prime serving in WW2. His 3 seasons prior to serving he had 24-9 , 27-11 and 25-13 he led the AL all 3 years in Wins, Innings Pitched and Strikeouts and once in ERA during that time well what do you know I believe that is a Pitching Triple Crown. His first full season on the mound in 1946 after missing the previous 3.5 years he was 26-15 with a 2.18 ERA with 36 Complete Games and 10 Shutouts with 371.1 Innings pitched with 348 Strikeouts he led the AL in each one of those categories. His career winning % is .621
@@GentrovoKolyovaWalter Johnson would be number one he had a 2.17 ERA with 110 Shutouts with 417 Wins and a .599 winning% along with 2 MVPs and 531 complete games yeah he would be #1 but Bob Feller hands down not even debatable is #2 like I said look at what his stats would have been if not serving in WW2 if you do it for Ted Williams you have to do it for Feller also. Remember when he left he was healthy and in his prime he didn’t miss those years cause of injuries. He had 1 Pitching Triple Crown and holds the record with Nolan Ryan for 1 hitters with those 3.5 years your easily looking at 4 more Strikeout crowns to go along with probably 90 or more wins with maybe 4 straight Pitching Triple Crowns probably at minimum 2 or 3 Pitching Triple Crowns and he adds how many more no hitters to his resume and he easily smokes past the tie with Nolan Ryan with career 1 hitters pitched. There is just no way he can’t be at the number 2 spot. Also remember 4 straight years at a sub 3 ERA also lowers his career ERA of 3.25 to maybe 2.40 to 2.70 just depends how historical those years would have been. The fact he was that dominant the 3 seasons prior to the WAR and the first full season back being one of the greatest pitched season in history you can easily say 1939 to 1947 if uninterrupted by WW2 for Bob Feller would have been the greatest Pitching stretch of any Pitcher in Baseball History.
Missing bob Feller and Robin Roberts Ryan and Martinez don’t belong on the list. Clemons was better than Maddox Johnson is #1 but Paige is very high. Hard to rank. He belongs. Gibson needs to be higher on the list. That said, really good job.
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Surprised you left off Rapid Robert Feller. Dominant for a decade, stats hurt due to military service.
Absolutely!!!
Nice list
Gibson was on relatively soft hitting teams. Greatest single season in history. Should be higher than 10
Juan Marichal was so underrated. He was at least the equal of Gibson. 20+ wins 6 times in 7 seasons
How can a guy with almost 300 LOSSES in his career and the all time leader in walks be the 6th best right handed starter of all time. Above Seaver? If I had one game to win and had to choose between those 2, I'd take Seaver every time. Ryan was a .500 pitcher because of the walks, not because of the teams he played on. Look at Steve Carlton, Walter Johnson or Seaver.
@@username-zj9id I'll have to disagree. An example is 1987 in Houston. A 2.76 ERA, which I think led the league. But a record of 8-16.
@@barrygeorge7066 That's one season out of 27. He got the walks under control later in his career, but he led the league in walks 8 times in 11 seasons. No way he is above Seaver, who led his league wins 3 times, ERA 3 times and never in walks.
@@username-zj9id Seaver was a stud, no doubt. I'm just glad to see a list that goes back more than 10 years! A lot of them don't. Walter Johnson may have been the best, and he played a hundred years ago.
@@barrygeorge7066 Agreed. It was a different game then, so hard to compare, but tough to argue with Johnson being the best ever.
Those are all big names. Like the Mt Rushmore.
Robin Roberts dominated the early 1950’s on a losing team for the most part.
I have nothing against Nolan Ryan....greatest strikeout pitcher ever obviously, his longevity was absurd. But....he wasn't as good as Jim Palmer, Catfish, Juan Marichal to name a few. I like your Pedro Martinez pick....and analysis.
Thanks!
Bob Feller not in top 5!? Big oversight. 266 wins despite missing almost 4 years in military during WWII. 2581 Ks during era when players didn’t strike out 100X per year. Come on!'
Dizzy Dean
Love that you put Seaver in there, except he should be # 6!! And Bob Feller doesn't even make honorable mention? Satchel= #1? YES!!
I get a lot of of flak for not mentioning Feller. Definitely an oversight on my behalf. However, he still does not make my top ten. Satchel is the GOAT!
No way Ryan should be this high. No way...no how . Barely above 5 hundred. Seaver was IMMENSELY better
Yeah! 7 no hitters! 5,000 K's! Piece of cake.
@@heyboo4764 If you think that way, Johnny Vander Meer had the most unbreakable record in the history of sports .
Ryan was a highlight film. But his win-loss was no better than the teams he played on. Would you want Nolan or Fergie Jenkins or Marichal or Gibson etc pitching game 7 of a WS?
@@davidwasserman3815 Marichal > Ryan.
Gibson!
Interesting! But if Satchel Paige is number 1 ... where does that leave Smokey Joe Williams? There are so many players who saw both and/or who played against both Paige and Williams who felt Williams the greatest of the two! Ty Cobb felt that had Williams been allowed to pitch in the major leagues “he would have won 30 games every year.” Tough call and I respect your choices! Thanks for posting it.
Smokey Joe Williams does deserve a mention! He was amazing. Thanks for the feedback.
How about Smokey Joe WOOD for about 4 years??
Bob Feller? Smokey Joe Wood? Don Drysdale? Sooo many overlooked
@@user-co7fb6qe5w Smokey Joe's level of greatness was at the top...but the longevity was near the bottom
😅 was also great
In 1999 Pedro won the pitcher’s Triple Crown (K/W/ERA). But that’s not it. He won five more games than anyone else, his ERA was a full point better than anyone else, and he struck out 100 batters more than anyone else.
And in 2000 he was just as good.
…and you forgot Ol’ Hoss Radbourne.
Seaver was far better than Ryan. Ryan was a superb athlete. But Tom was a far better pitcher.
Ryan would be fortunate to be an honorable mention
Loved this man! Thanks for including Gibby- although I might have bumped him a little higher! (Cardinal fan- sorry). Totally agree with Paige at 1. And I hated seeing Maddux so high, but it’s so true. Dude was a painter.
I'm 74, lived in San Francisco, and grew up watching many great players. I loved/hated Gibson. I thought he and Dave Stewart were the most menacing appearing pitchers I watched. Gibson's '68 season may be the best single-season any pitcher had. In 34 appearances, he was 22-9, 28 complete games, 13 shutouts, struck out 268 batters, and in 304 innings gave up 38 runs with an ERA of 1.12. He won the Cy Young/MVP/4th Gold Glove.
Addie Joss!!!! Beers on me brother!
Paige/smokey joe williams/ walter johnson/ nolan ryan/pedro martinez.
Jenkins 267 complete games
Bob Feller, Jim Palmer and Dizzy Dean don't even get honorable mention? Seaver too low.
Yea, forgot to shout out those guys in my honorable mentions. My bad.
Dizzy Dean only had 150 career wins and 3 dominant seasons before arm troubles ruined him.
I feel like Dean should have similar consideration to Koufax, only difference was when their ineffectiveness and dominance occurred during their respective careers
Seaver is number one.
As a Yankee fan that hurts. But it's true, imho.
Seaver, Walter Johnson, Pete Alexander, Bob Feller, Gibby. Cy Young, Mathewson, Clemens, Satchel, Maddux.
No particular order.
sorry but in all honesty the turn of the century pitchers just can't be on the list,hell it was a completely different game then.. if you could pitch both ends of a double header that says it all
I would replace the old timers with Juan Marichal, Bob Feller, Robin Roberts, and Ferguson Jenkins
Love that you put Satchel Paige #1. Totally agree. I wouldn't argue against any of these picks with the exception of Nolan Ryan. I think his longevity and strikeout and no-hitter totals are incredible but overall, I don't think he makes the top 10 mainly because his ERA+ isn't high enough and walks are too numerous. Juan Marichal or Fergie Jenkins at #10.
Thanks!
I noticed that all but 3 or 4 on the list are before pitch count became a thing.
Walter Johnson-411 wins
Whitey Ford-highest win percentage in BB history
He was a southpaw.
@@luberdoo1950 Yes, Ford was a lefty.
Cy Young with over 500 wins was a righty.
Good list. All are worthy of consideration, but can't overlook Bob Feller. He lost 4 prime years serving his country in WW2, otherwise he probably would have won 350 games Don't want to say whom he should replace, but I can think of 5 pitchers on your list whom he should outrank.
No argument with Satchel. Others who may be in the 11-20 group: Jim Palmer, Dwight Gooden, Don Drysdale, Jim Bunning, Jack Morris, Gaylord Perry, Don Sutton.
So you going to leave Bob Feller off the list and not even an honorable mention? Crazy
He also pitched 267 complete games
1- Wallter Johnson 2- Christy Mathewson 3- Grover Clev. Alexander 4 - Roger Clemens 5 - Tom Seaver 6 - Greg Maddux 7 - Juan Marichal 8 - Bob Gibson 9 -Jim Palmer 10 - Pedro Martinez & Bob Feller.
1. Walter Johnson
2. Tom Seaver
3. Roger Clemens
4. Cy Young
5. Greg Maddux
6. Christy Mathewson
7. Grover Alexaner
8. Pedro Martinez
9. Nolan Ryan
10. Bob Gibson
I have no idea how to rate Nolan Ryan. Pedro just didn't have the endurance and got pulled from WAY too many games in the 6th inning due to pitch count for me to rate higher. As always I leave off the negro leaguers because I just don't pretend to know. I imagine Paige would otherwise be up there.
Clemens was a juicer and a headhunter in the league that did not make him go to the plate. Gibson had to go take at bats, Don Drysdale for one was just as hard throwing and willing to go inside on anyone. Before the DH pitchers faced retaliation personally, Clemens was a phony tough guy.
Amen!!
Greg Maddux had the brain and the accuracy, and Randy Johnson had the intimidating power, enough to give me the best ever from both sides of the rubber. Pedro Martinez is probably 1A from the right side.
Pedro is the greatest pitcher of all time period
Randy is a lefty.
Juan Marichal
You cant go off fokelore at #1. He didnt pitch in mlb. He is the player you but at 10 because we just dont know how good he was.
If you are going to list Satch, you should include Rube Foster who was considered the best ever by both Negro Leaguers and John McGraw
Not even a simple mention of Jim Palmer.
No argument here. Mr. Paige was The Show !
No Don Drysdale ?
Where would you place him?
BOB FELLER!!! Who by the way, competed against Satchel Paige.
dennis sollars That was a tough decision.
Feller and Paige were also teammates. And World Series Champions together.
I love satchel Paige. There's no doubt he's a top 10. Bob feller, hello, Bob feller is the number one guy if that's on your list. Bob feller
What about Bob Feller, Dave Palmer, Don Drysdale, and Vida Blue
I think Nolan should be higher
Respectfully, I think Babe Ruth, Bob Feller and Sany Kofax are very obvious omissions on your list. However, your list is very impressive!
Thanks, but it is not lefties for this list. I get plenty of flack for not putting Feller on here. Thanks for the feedback.
blyleven?
Ryan never won a Cy Young because he was considered a thrower, not a pitcher. When his fastball was in the strike zone, good things happened. When it wasn't, he walked an MLB-record 2,795 batters.
Thanks for weighing in! It's good to hear from dummies!
Good list but Randy Johnson has to be in the top 10 all-time he's the first Lefty I pick just ahead of Koufax an Carlton!
@davidwilliamson2341 Great choices, but this video was righties only. Here is Gentry's Top-10 All-Time Lefties. ruclips.net/video/ecoLFwZZC6k/видео.html
@jefffuhr2393 yes sir l knew it was I'll check out your lefty's list.
A list of ten right-handed starters without Bob Feller. JOKE! Listen to who Williams and DiMaggio, the greatest hitters of his generation, talk about how was the toughest they ever faced. NOBODY was even CLOSE to Feller in a 20 year span!
Feller was close for me. Where would you place him?
You talk about Williams and DiMaggio, but none of the pitchers on his list are from that generation.
All the pitchers from the 40’s and 50’s are underrated.
Have to disagree with Nolan Ryan. Despite his spectaculars, he was little better than a .500 pitcher, third all-time in losses while only fourteenth in wins.
Yeah. You’re right. He’d strike out fifteen and give up six runs.
Fergie Jenkins
Google his career 284 wins playing for poor teams
Gibson as 10! Yikes. He had a season with an E.R.A. of 1.16. They lowered the mound because of him. Who else generated a rule change. Ryan as 6th, not high enough. 7 no-hitters.
You lose ALL credibility by leaving Bob Feller off this list. First ballot HOF'er, 3 no no's, set single season strike out record and was a beast of a workhorse. Regularly lead the league in innings pitched with over 300+ ... and often had more complete games than wins (but won 24-27 games regularly).
@@jim72068 All of it?
No Bob Feller makes it a joke.
Roger had TWO games with 20 Ks. Deserving of his place in your Top Ten. Too bad all those guys got on the juice. They were all timers without it, as their career numbers pre-steroids show.
Yeah they should have let the black guys play 1876-1946. A prick calked Cap Anson was instrumental in keeping them out.
Your list is a joke Bob Feller is probably the greatest RHP of all time and nobody would even argue that. He Easily wins 350-370 Games if he had not served in WW2 and he was the first baseball player to enlist to fight in the War even before Ted Williams signed up to fight. He had 3 no hitters and only him and Nolan Ryan hold the record for most 1 hitters with 12 he had (6) 20 win seasons and was also a World Series Champion. He has a record of 266 Wins with 2,581 Strikeouts with a 3.25 ERA did I forget to mention he missed 3.5 years of his prime serving in WW2. His 3 seasons prior to serving he had 24-9 , 27-11 and 25-13 he led the AL all 3 years in Wins, Innings Pitched and Strikeouts and once in ERA during that time well what do you know I believe that is a Pitching Triple Crown. His first full season on the mound in 1946 after missing the previous 3.5 years he was 26-15 with a 2.18 ERA with 36 Complete Games and 10 Shutouts with 371.1 Innings pitched with 348 Strikeouts he led the AL in each one of those categories. His career winning % is .621
Who would you put him ahead of then?
@@GentrovoKolyovaWalter Johnson would be number one he had a 2.17 ERA with 110 Shutouts with 417 Wins and a .599 winning% along with 2 MVPs and 531 complete games yeah he would be #1 but Bob Feller hands down not even debatable is #2 like I said look at what his stats would have been if not serving in WW2 if you do it for Ted Williams you have to do it for Feller also. Remember when he left he was healthy and in his prime he didn’t miss those years cause of injuries. He had 1 Pitching Triple Crown and holds the record with Nolan Ryan for 1 hitters with those 3.5 years your easily looking at 4 more Strikeout crowns to go along with probably 90 or more wins with maybe 4 straight Pitching Triple Crowns probably at minimum 2 or 3 Pitching Triple Crowns and he adds how many more no hitters to his resume and he easily smokes past the tie with Nolan Ryan with career 1 hitters pitched. There is just no way he can’t be at the number 2 spot. Also remember 4 straight years at a sub 3 ERA also lowers his career ERA of 3.25 to maybe 2.40 to 2.70 just depends how historical those years would have been. The fact he was that dominant the 3 seasons prior to the WAR and the first full season back being one of the greatest pitched season in history you can easily say 1939 to 1947 if uninterrupted by WW2 for Bob Feller would have been the greatest Pitching stretch of any Pitcher in Baseball History.
@@early_crypto_investor4451 Thanks for the feedback.
Gibson is way way too low on your list!
Where would you place him?
Grover Cleveland Alexander is not Pete.
Yes he was. “Pete” was one of his nicknames
Keep reading a card stupid question
Missing bob Feller and Robin Roberts
Ryan and Martinez don’t belong on the list.
Clemons was better than Maddox
Johnson is #1 but Paige is very high.
Hard to rank. He belongs.
Gibson needs to be higher on the list.
That said, really good job.