I'm the same way and I think it's because science is so cut and dry. If something is a scientific "fact" it's been tested over and over and the same outcome is always observed. Politics is literally just interpretations of what society should be and that's infinitely more interesting to me.
@@bigchilling420 Yeah you can personally dislike science without shitting on people who like science. I like listening to hasanabi + like science. I mean even tho he says this people still like some form of science media like marine biology, I just think science is interesting because there is an infinite amount of knowledge to learn. Politics is too subjective
How do the Japanese feel about the bomb? Godzilla. They literally made an unkillable radioactive behemoth as an allegory for their fear of nuclear destruction.
Hideko anno and kojima are two prominent film and video game makers, all of their messaging about the US is clear resentment towards the US turning them into a puppet after commiting genocide. Kojima being more anti war and anno being anti nuclear war and both being anti Japanese rearmament
Oppenheimer seemed to face the same type of harassment after the war, as Alan Turing in England. Turing was the lead mathematician who helped break the Enigma codes of the German U-boats, thus saving thousands of lives and millions of tons of shipping for the Allied navies. In1952 Turing was prosecuted for homosexuality and forced to undergo chemical castration or face prison...he committed suicide 2 years later.
Yup, and apparently allies left pink triangle “sex criminal” concentration prisoners in Nazi camps. Many of the prisoners were “sex criminals” for being gay, trans, or performing in drag. Also apparently Turing was likely autistic. Autists were interned under the black triangle for “Disabled” or “Work shy” and were often executed immediately for being useless wastes of resources. Both marginalized peoples, the queer and disabled, as well as others faced castration, execution, and more on both sides. Just some not-so-fun-facts about fascism.
@@bendover7841the cheating aside, dude did that so many times, forced the woman he was cheating on to give birth. He was a coward, at least Einstein was true to his ideals, Oppenheimer gave up his leftist ideals to join in on the trinity project. Willingly accepted the authoritarian nature to him and his colleagues for being liberals and socialists, then had the audacity to act like he felt guilty for not only building two atomic weapons, but creating nuclear war as we know it.
What? How are you comparing Allan Turing to Oppenheimer who willingly created a mass murder weapon? one's invention saved lives the other's killed lives?
@@yuzan3607the nuclear bomb 100% shouldn’t have been used, and with that I also think that Oppenheimer was put in a very tough spot as it was thought the nazis would get the bomb soon
I would like to point out that when the bomb was being developed by Oppenheimer the idea was not killing Japanese people, but creating the technology before the Nazis. Both the Nazis and the Americans were trying to build the nuclear bomb and it was assumed that the Nazis wouldn't hold off using it. By the time the bomb was completed, however, Germany had surrendered, and the US government decided to use it on Japan. This was not a decision Oppenheimer had any part in, it was not what he had in mind when he designed the weapon, and, along with many other scientists at Los Alamos, he was against dropping the bomb. He thought that a demonstration of the bomb's power out in the desert would be enough to persuade the Japanese, without people needing to die. Even during the bomb's development he went contrary to the American exeptionalist narrative by advocating for scientific progress to be shared with the USSR. He spent the remainder of his life campaigning against nuclear weapons, to the point that the US government had to brand him a traitor and removed all his power. The narrative in this community that he was some kind of mass murdering monster is a completely one-sided, ignorant view. Even if the bomb was never used, it would need to have been built because the Nazis were building it. The only objectionable thing Oppenheimer did is thinking it was a good idea to nuke Nazi Germany.
Yep, its weird that for how much he know about political side of the war he seem to not know that Oppenheimer was very open in opposing the use of the bomb. I also hate that Veritasium didnt clarify what is his stance on the matter, I always thought that the blame put on him are way too overblown treating him like some kind of genocidal maniac when in reality he and pretty much every physicists & scientists who have worked on the manhattan project not named Teller was opposed to the idea of using the bomb. Hasan's reaction is very surface level, especially when he said copium when it is stated that Oppenheimer's situation was complicated (which it was, had he known even a bit of history)
@@BaldwinIV_of_Jerusalem Hasan doesn't know very much. He mostly regurgitates what he's heard before, and if it happens to be wrong he will never know because it's not like he reads or researches this stuff.
The test truly was not an actual 0% that it could end the planet(in Los Alamos), so simply put Oppenheimer, his team and the US government were willing to bet humanity for a stupid atomic test to scare Japanese and the world. If you dont call that a monster, i dunno what you call a monster.No consent , no information of the public, they literally put all life ont his planet up for a test. Yes, he did some correct steps along the road but the main idea remains, they all played with our futures, and you dont create a weapon of mass destruction and think nobody is gonna use it - I know Rob could have been naive, but that does not excuse anything. If I give sb power hungry a gun, and they shoot sb with it, I dont get to act surprised.For a genius he really lacked the basic understanding of humans.
In reality, the Nazi government had spent almost nothing on nuclear development, seeing it as ‘Jewish’ and their lead scientists such as Dr Heisenberg dragging his feet on the project (many say purposely). No, the Nazi government was focusing their forward facing scientific development on ROCKETRY.
I mean, he did have some massive blind spots wrt who the people he was dealing with were, but yeah. I don’t think he wanted millions of people to die because of something he built. But he kinda should have seen something like that coming, unfortunately his ego was way too big to predict anything involving the bomb could happen without his permission. Which it clearly did, and he realized what was going on *way* too late.
Speaking from experience, when your love is theoretical physics, lab work is torture. I had to take physics 1 lab 3 times before I managed to force myself through all of the boredom. A big part of my success that time was I was paired with a football player. We had a deal where I would basically do the entire experiment (unless it took an extra hand, and I would just tell him to hold whatever), and he would go through the tedious work of doing lab reports (then I would check the math). Which I could never force myself to do. In other classes I often found ways of getting out of doing them, or doing the least I had to do pass. Even in math and physics classes where i had to do "computer labs" to cut down the math work by hours, I just did the math by hand. Labs fucking suck.
@dankmemester1066 agreed. doing lab work without a grade attached is so much more gratifying/exciting -- and possibly more stressful if the PI sucks -- than mandatory class labs
Labs are the most fun part of science imo. I loved chem lab and hated having to sit through an hour a day of markovnikov, non markovnikov blahblahblah reactions each documented by me on a 3x5 index card. For physics one, I'd like to recommend the velocity vs time chart which is 90% of algebraic physics in a single chart. For chem and other forms of physics get good at Stoichiometry, which is just canceling out units to arrive at an answer. You dont even need the equation if you have the units.
@dankmemester1066 yes lol. Unfortunately, due to fucked up fraud, the foundation that provided my scholarship went bankrupt, so I had to drop out (between that and some other very trying situations, switching to another, much less expensive school, saving up through working for a while, and other things were not an option for me). But in the years I was there, I was very stubborn and almost exclusively took math and physics classes, as that was my double major. I had to get written permission for classes starting my first semester in school, but I was very quickly able to gain access to masters classes. They were SUCH a breath of fresh air. Though I did run into some problems when the dean of the physics department would block my access to certain resources, because I was "too young" to be doing the projects I was doing. I wasn't supposed to be doing independent research in analytic number theory. I wasn't allowed to have any access to any extra computing power I would have needed for my project that merged chaos theory and plasma physics, so I had to present it purely theoretically without any data. Still got a great grade though because I was one of two people to actually understand how to come up with a hypothesis that could have resulted in a strange attractor (in theory). Ect. It was very frustrating, and the dean was vengeful. I had an A in relativity, which I had studied since 7th grade as a hobby, but I had medical issues (which the school recognized). I had to take my final and turn some stuff in late. I could only take the final (which I would have gotten an A on, or passed the class with a 0), if she administered and graded it. She forced the professor to ignore my grades and fail me. My advisor said am appeal would go nowhere. So that was another reason I walked away, especially because I had developed severe PTSD by that point from something else, and the only way to gain favor with her the mext year would be to attend every class. My ptsd made that an impossibility. I still read textbooks when by brain allows, I still have the issues from severe head trauma I had back then, and now I have MS. But I have found that nerds don't like to discuss things. It tends to be what they went into for money, not their passion. Or they dumb things down, and we both end up frustrated. I do tutor a lot though. That way all of the kids who dream of going into science degrees but see math as impossible... well, that changes. One of the people I tutored even became a math tutor lol. It's too bad I don't have my college degree officially, though I was only a few classes away from completing all of the math and physics requirements, and I could have tried filling in the rest at a community college maybe. I'm a really good calculus teacher. Far from my dream job. But when all of your dreams are dead and buried, helping kids reach theirs is the next best thing I suppose.
@@wodthehunter8145 hated chem lol. And the higher up physics classes with no labs were much better, like relativity and chaos theory. Though chaos did have some bullshit cumputer labs, but I cheated. I traded teaching people the actual subject matter, they shared their typed up programs that were not too difficult, but I had never taken programming, I'm dyslexic, and I had a head injury that made me get migraines if I focused on a computer screen too long. Sadly, when it came to a true understanding of chaos theory, I was one of two that understood. Though I was the best at it, and I would say it was closer to the understanding of my teacher, who was working on her doctorate. I had to explain my final project twice. But all of it came to me pretty easily, she only excelled in a small part of chaos theory, which was on the mathematics side vs. physics side. It is taught in two different ways in college.
I agree. Sadly, I wasn't able to experience doing lab work in graduate school because of COVID. I wonder if I'd had enjoyed it given the chance. But, yes, lab work during college was so boring.
Hasan being concerned out about Veritasium (briefly) going over nuclear fission is funny to me. Understanding the science of a nuclear bomb isn't that difficult. Getting the resources to actually build one is a different story
I mean, Japan should have surrendered the first time, no? But it’s hard for me to pity them considering one of my older relatives were part of their “comfort women” shit. In my opinion, they fucking deserved it. My home country, Philippines, was there sitting quietly and not bothering them.
@@purplegorilla9592“They could’ve surrendered” “They shouldn’t have fought back” dude- hundreds of thousands murdered barely a weekend after even more hundreds of thousands is not a chance at surrendering peacefully its a mass murder followed very very speedily by another mass murder. Surrender isn’t just “I give up” its “have your way with my homeland”. Emotional intelligence of a squirrel.
Japan military leaders attempted a coup when the emperor wanted to surrender. It also took two Atomic bombs before the emperor chose to surrender. Forgien policy is complicated.
The use of nuclear weapons in WW2 were for several reasons and most had nothing to do with ending the war. As far as options for ending the war it seems the Allies could of either gone with a land invasion of mainland Japan(which probably would of ended up splitting Japan into 2 countries like Korea) or perhaps an isolation option via embargo similar to Cuba or continued bombing(nuclear or firebomb) to force Japan to surrender. The reason they went with the nuclear option was to signal to the Soviets(and the rest of the world) we had the bomb and were willing to use it(power play). Also to further the science experiment. We had detonated a bomb in the middle of the desert but scientists and those in the military wanted to know how it would effect a targeted area/environment(buildings and people etc). Another reason is the potential of the American public response(politics) to NOT using the weapon to try and end the war vs sending American troops into harms way via a land invasion. Along with the MASSIVE amount of tax payer funds that went into the project of creating the device....as sad as it sounds the people would want to see something for their investment. Bottom line war is madness. You cant try and rationalize anything when it comes to killing others. Unfortunately given our short time on this planet as a species it seems perhaps human's destiny is to destroy ourselves....either directly through war or via proxy from killing the planet.
I've heard this, but I don't know if it is true. Also, you should mention communications by Japanese diplomats feigning surrender to Soviets. But, the idea is that it would end the war sooner, which is was partially responsible, and prevented the death of millions more. Idk the utilitarian math on that, but I don't know if one can safely say that it was not in ambition to end the war or prevent further deaths.
What an extremely ignorant observation... The invasion of Japan would've costed nearly a million deaths on both the Japanese side and the allies in only the first year. Which is already 8x more deaths compared to the bombs
@christopher5784 we'll never know for sure, but I find the evidence that the decision to drop the bombs was unjustified, to be compelling. See for example Shaun's video on the topic, I saw it a while ago and it's quite long so I wouldn't do it justice if I tried to summarize it here, but it's pretty solid.
My PhD work focuses on other things, but Hasan’s take on US Allied position in WWII is pretty good. Weirdly, Hitler didn’t take advantage of the obvious Klan-Nazi potential alliance. Complicated. But mostly a nationalistic thing, I think.
If you're at all familiar with US history you'd know that what he said was pretty much bs. The broadly held attitude in America at the time was isolationist, the perception being that European wars were their own problem and only server to entangle American in problems that historically had nothing to do with them. Hasan acts like it was almost a coin flip to determine which side the US joined, ignoring that joining the axis was an extremely unpopular opinion. The most likely outcome would have been neutrality if the US hadn't joined the allies. Id love to see Hasan show some evidence for this claim beyond "corporate something something, populism something something"
@yayap001 As someone with a history degree he's 100% correct. He didn't say it was a coin flip at any point more so that we had equal hate to Germans and Commies before and at the start of the war. That's why the population was isolationist and why FDR supplied both sides. Hasan literally says "thank god for pearl harbor" because if we didn't get that skin in the game we would have stayed on the fence and probably not be the first nation with nuclear weapons and who would have? Probably the Germans or the Soviets...Hasan is not trying to get in the mind of an average US citizen in the early 40s but describe how if we stayed netural, the US would've probably bent the knee to Germany or the USSR if we didn't join either side.
@@yayap001 For one thing, the US refused to cooperate with the early USSR, but signed a peace treaty with Nazi Germany almost sooner than any other Allied country did. And let's not act like the desires of the populace of the US dictates US gov't policy. Nazi Germany was certainly very popular with American business, whereas the USSR had no material gains to offer the US- in fact, the rise of the USSR was a threat to the interests of the US capitalist ruling class. I'll just quote Michael Parenti, because he said it best in Blackshirts and Reds: "Italian fascism and German Nazism had their admirers within the U.S. business community and the corporate-owned press. Bankers, publishers, and industrialists, including the likes of Henry Ford, traveled to Rome and Berlin to pay homage, receive medals, and strike profitable deals. Many did their utmost to advance the Nazi war effort, sharing military-industrial secrets and engaging in secret transactions with the Nazi government, even after the United States entered the war. During the 1920s and early 1930s, major publications like Fortune, the Wall Street Journal, Saturday Evening Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune, and Christian Science Monitor hailed Mussolini as the man who rescued Italy from anarchy and radicalism... "As with Mussolini, so with Hitler. The press did not look too unkindly upon der Fuehrer's Nazi dictatorship. There was a strong "Give Adolph A Chance" contigent, some of it greased by Nazi money. In exchange for more positive coverage in the Hearst newpapers, for instance, the Nazis paid almost ten times the standard subscription rate for Hearst's INS wire service. In return, William Randolph Hearst instructed his correspondents in Germany to file friendly reports about Hitler's regime. Those who refused were transferred or fired. Hearst newpapers even opened their pages to occasional guest columns by prominent Nazi leaders like Alfred Rosenberg and Hermann Goring. "By the mid to late 1930s, Italy and Germany, allied with Japan, another industrial latecomer, were aggressively seeking a share of the world's markets and colonial booty, an expansionism that brought then increasingly into conflict with more established Western capitalist nations like Great Britain, France, and the United States. As the clouds of war gathered, U.S. press opinion about the Axis powers took on a decisively critical tone." (Pgs 10-11)
you may be the best hasan clip channel. really love the nice edits here and there, without changing the content too much. really good balance, good job!!
@@nevadanate4957 Yes but soldiers, while coerced and indoctrinated into doing so, are still a direct threat. Killing a soldier who is convinced he must kill you is self defence. The moment he sees you and he is armed it is likely you’ll either die there at his hand or gamble wether you will in his prison. Taking his life is likely saving yours. Killing his parents, siblings, children, partner, cousins, friends, all in one fell swoop, indiscriminately, that is an evil unlike anything.
It's honestly funny in a sad way that Hasan was talking about how these weapons of mass destruction were being made with the express purpose of killing civilians, and someone in chat was like "Oh so there were no military bases in Japan?". Like dude, of course there was but they weren't using them on military bases, now were they?
Hiroshima and Nagasaki did have military value, though. The US, and pretty much EVERY major nation involved in the war, that had the capability, bombed civilian cities. Obviously, cities had factories that could help in the war, but it was also to instill fear on the general population. All this to say, the Atomic Bombs really weren't unique from a strategic viewpoint. Thankfully, war isn't conducted as such since the Korean War...unless you are Russia in Ukraine...
@@FloofyMinari I would have agreed with you, but the choice of the bombing location was clearly concerned with increasing civilian casualties and affecting the morale of the Japanese population which was being trained to resist an armed invasion of the homelands. They wanted the "most effective use of the bomb". Lawrence, if I recall correctly, told them that an effective demonstration of the device at sea should be enough to spook the Japanese. But, ... why would anyone listen to the scientists?
I like to think oppenheimer actually came up with that “destroyer of worlds” line way ahead of time and couldn’t wait to drop it (bomb goes off, scientists celebrating) “yeah. yeah. so sick. now I am-“ (more cheering) “ha ha. right? you guys, guess what: now I am be-“ (another scientists interrupts him) “damnit! guys: _nowiambecomedeathdestroyerofworlds!”_ (everyone is like “Whoaaa dude that’s like the PERFECT thing to say right now, opp”) “yeah that’s just some cool shit I just thought of. just now. someone write that down that I said that”
oh yeah im convinced he couldnt wait to drop that line, and how can you blame him? its one of the hardest in the history of physics and science overall.
@@nevadanate4957 oh I know. just to explain the joke: it’s always portrayed that he’s just like this worldly multidisciplinary scholar who, familiar with the bagavad gita, and in a stroke of sublime inspiration, simply _recalled_ the quote at the moment of the test. but this joke post presupposes this notion. what I am attempting to subvert here (again, can’t stress this enough, in JOKE form) is the idea that he wasn’t divinely inspired at that moment… that he actually had been planning to drop that line at that moment, in order to come across as smart and insightful. but yeah, sometimes not every internet comment is serious. sometimes posts are jokes. it’s crazy, but there you have it.
Ignorance is the lack of knowledge, Arrogance is the inability to obtain new knowledge through stubborn pride. It is with in my belief Hasan shares both of these traits in spades.
Not necessarily, if you have some sort of fundamental understanding of quantum physics and its mechanics then this video can be subjectively considered to be heavily dumbed down. This is just the wrong audience for this video, I mean it's twitch of all places come on now. Most of Veritasuim's videos are about the same as far as the depth of information that is presented, albeit some might be harder to understand than others. So this isn't out of the ordinary or over-informative at all. His channel is just not for everyone.
@@darkmatter9233precisely. If science is not your thing, and if you struggle with math, this is likely not your lane. People swerve and wonder why they crash. 😂😂😂
Oppenheimer is not an evil person. His reason to make the bomb was based on his interpretation of information he had access too and assumptions on how the tool he made could be used. At the time the bomb was dropped it would have been a reasonable assumption that it would take capturing the capital and the death of the leader to end the war like it had with Germany if one had the information available to Oppenheimer. Most of the blame of the bombings should be on Truman, high level us military and intelligence leadership. Also consider the fact that Japan employed suicide bombers and people fighting to the last man on multiple occasions would make the idea of them giving up hard to believe when their there soldiers had shown such fanatism. The idea that the bomb was necessary would have been seen as completely valid if you didn't consider that their leadership were cowards compared to their airman.
Just say "war crimes are okay if they don't submit" and be done with it. There is no reason to ever do war crimes, it is never a good strategic decision unless you are trying to do genocide. Time and again countries that commit war crimes always end up having a long term issue of having to have constantly heightened security to stop "terrorists".
@@MrCrunch808 I probably said it wrong because I’m drunk on vacation but I’m not saying the use of the bombs was justified. I’m saying that Us leadership misled many into committing war crimes with by misleading them. I stated facts that would have been used to justify said actions so that those who were ignorant to the wider realities ended up a part of atrocities they might not have imagined beforehand.
Not a perfect analogy but like I hope I get the idea across that people more often than not believe they are doing good beyond their own self interest. Our modern society gives used far far more information and more importantly perspective on any any conflict in almost real time that makes the atrocities of WW2 seem inhuman
Oppenheimer somehow manages to edgelord the Gita quote while simultaneously underselling Vishnu's terrible true form as a guy with simply many arms. Highly recommend the Mahabharata, do not recommend building nuclear bombs
didn't really know Hasan talked about 731 and Nanking massacre, it's simply nice for more people at least know about Japanese war crimes in the Eastern front of WWII.
He has always been very good about making those aspects of history clear and not letting them be lost by the cultural significance of Japan today. If you enjoy his efforts spreading awareness on the subject, search his coverage of the Shinzo Abe assasination and Abe's political history.
It was all about that during the Shinzo Abe assassination. But obviously the Kempetai had a very small presence in those bomb cities. Nor does it justify the damage by those explosions and the after effects of radiation. Not all Japanese were fascists either
@@Reprodestruxion Oh ofc I get what you mean. I’m also a weeb, but the recognition of the historical facts are crucial if we want to understand the geopolitical stands of the countries in the past
@@mikaelwalker3327 for sure! I learned about Nanjing in highschool, but it was from personal reading material, not because they actually teach it in many if any schools at all. Perhapse it is because its in the best interest of "American exceptionalism" propoganda to not look too deeply into war crimes, or else the record shattering amount of human attrocities committed by America may come under greater scrutiny. American interests always seem to gravitate around these vague notions of "good guys vs bad guys" that require you to delegate your understanding to authority. Not too different to civilians of Imperial Japan or Fascist Germany. I understand the scars of the evil acts Japan did in Nanjing and beyond in the greater Indochina region will never be forgotten. But I certainly hope you dont believe the droppings of the Atomic Bombs were justified.
The use of atom bombs in ww2 will always be debated, but it becomes evident that a lot of people take it the context of total war out of it. The Manhattan project scientists worked on this because most of them believed it to be a preferable option to either the nazis getting a bomb, or a total invasion of Japan. There are multiple sources to confirm this. The killings of civilians is horrific don't get me wrong, but unfortunately it seemed then, as it does now, that civilian deaths are an inescapable part of modern warfare
Let's not huff copium. Let's not be a whataboutist about what happened. From a Japanese (We are one of the heaviest addicts of copium) to my Americans brothers and sisters. Peace.
one of the worst cases of hasan streamer brain, pause the video to say something that gets talked about later. Said copium at the end when the declaration itself was against the bomb lol
If we didn't want to be evil and kill a bunch of civilians we could've dropped the first bomb in an area that was noticeable but relatively harmless followed by a warning that we'd drop a second bomb on either Hiroshima or Nagasaki if they didn't surrender in a week so they could evacuate both cities and would have to either guess which city to defend or split their forces to stop the bombing.
They had been bombed silly by every country and their mothers for weeks, maybe months, before the two big bombs. They didn't give a fuck about civilians, which is why people say dropping the bombs was not the reason for their surrender
The issue was that we only had enough material for two bombs, hence why one was gun style and one plutonium. If the Japanese called the Americans bluff, it would be several months at best before a third bomb could be produced. In terms of the evacuation warning, the Air Force dropped leaflets over (I believe) Hiroshima, giving warning.
my man the japanese high command didnt even react after the first bomb was dropped lmao, they were literally doing the hasan chair meme and the japanese navy was basically saying "oh you got another one where that came from? probably not." some of you REALLY should read up on the last days of war in japan because its really wasnt in any way how either you or hasan are portraying it. you FUNDEMENTALLY misunderstand the motivations and convictions of the japanese militarists.
The US was absolutely going to invade mainland Japan. Mainly so they wouldn't have to split it with the USSR like the did with Germany. But they were also still pissed at Japan for Pearl Harbor, inhumane treatment for allied POWs, kamikazes, brutal fighting to the last man when they were already beaten (Iwo Jima, Okinawa)etc. They wanted to make Japan pay, and the nukes were the quicker, simpler options. I'm not saying it is right, but people seem to undersell how much the US hated Japan, and how American propaganda sold to the public how they were less human, even compared to the Nazis.
I mean the death count would have been way higher with a full scale invasion also and if the Soviets also invaded and split the country it would be like Korea and we all know how shit that is with current knowledge
Did America care about communism in the 40s? Yes, very much. We invaded Soviet union in 1918, from two sides, for unknown reasons, deployed troops were too small for ground invasion or to stop the revolution, but two army units, one in the tundra in the north west near Finland, and another in kamchatka in the east next to Japanese expedition earn polar bear insignias for valor in combat. Then after their withdrawal, soviets are isolated and under sanctions. Their only trading partner until 1941 was Germany, until they suddenly become the allies when the Nazis attack them. Enemy of our enemy kind of thing.
I love that there are people pretending that calling out your own nation for war crimes is somehow a distraction, excuse, AND DEFENCE of the war crimes of others??
Just found out that as early as July 11 1945 the American government was aware of discussions of a Japanese surrender between the Empire and the USSR should the latter declare war against the former. A second bomb was not necessary and absolutely did not have to be dropped on the next most heavily populated city.
to get in on the fun. th idea that aliens where picking up the Nuke blast. like we do with tracking earthquakes and volcanic movement. if i was an alien who was keeping track of some wild looking mammals, and then a blast like the Czar bomba is picked up. id be really interested in wtf was going on.
I went to Hiroshima, went to all museum and memorials. Can t shake the feeling that humanity really should have never been able to create something this deadly. It truly feels like the power of God, but in awfully shakey, petty, impulsive hands.
Stating the reason the US joined the Allies and failing to mention anything about the Nazi's is the same as Nikki Haley forgetting to say that slavery was a cause of the civil war.
They did show a lot of the "boring science stuff," though (iirc) they messed up the timeline of some stuff (at least terms that were being used). I could be misremembering though, I didn't take notes while watching lmao.
@@ciarz_what this user is saying is that they saw a German Ad for the Oppenheimer movie and since we dub EVERYTHING, the trailer/ad was fully in German. So it was kind of odd to them to hear them talk about tue nazis in the movie while it being said in German :D
Lots of things uses to use whale oil. It's actually what made mobey dick relevant at the time it was made, because whaling was a big profession because whales were actually people main source of oil
@@Morbing_Time No... I didn't miss it. I was just kidding. Ya know like the kind of dumb joke that only a real fucking downer would feel inclined to set someone straight about? But now that I'm thinking about it "extremely unlikely" is not the same as impossible. And how unlikely? Like if I throw 3 D20s and all three land on 20 would we be annihilated? Your buzz kill ass comment made me think more about this and honestly, I'm changing what was meant as a dumb joke to what I actually understand to be correct. If we are talking about lighting Earth's fucking atmosphere on fire anything short of Dream's Minecraft odds aren't going to cut it.
31:53 woah chill its not created to bomb civilians, well maybe technically it is considering the nazis started their work before the americans did. For the manhattan project that was not the intended use of it (atleast in the beginning), it was mainly for the nazis. It only really changed when the US found out that the russians were also trying to create their own.
I really think that the people that put that much weight on the atomic bomb need to get some perspective. The actual use of the atomic bomb was not really all that remarkable in terms of human carnage, other than its speed. It was able to kill tens of thousands in seconds. However, the fire bombing was just as bad in total numbers. Let's not forget that 70 million people died in WWII, most of them civilians. The Japanese killed millions of Chinese civilians because the could. They were almost worst than the Nazi's when it came to the horrendous war crimes they committed. It was felt at the time that using the bomb to win the war earlier was the best thing to do. It was thought that mass destruction would demoralize the civilian population nd force a surrender. it would only be months later that a study would be published by the US military that revealed that strategic bombing of this kind does not lead to surrender but only leads to further galvanization of the population. This was not known at the time as the study was not complete. Regardless, it was estimated that 50,000 US solders would be lost in the taking of japan and likely around 1 million Japanese would be killed in the effort. To most at the time, the use of the nuclear bomb was a far better deal. Whether or not you agree with this kind of cold calculous does not mean that the people who made it were just bloodthirsty monsters. History is much more complicated than that.
Japan literally tried to surrender multiple times with a few concessions, but we decided that we ain't gonna give them concessions, we dropped the bomb and then we gave them much more concessions than Japan wanted We literally dropped the bomb to show our ego
Yeah unconditional surrender to utterly destroy japans military establishment, and punish war crime perpetrators. The whole point was to bring Japan down like Germany and Italy not give them a special deal.
Germany also tried to surrender to the allies but we refused because the allies new that Germany had to be utterly destroyed in order for a long peace.
They wanted a conditional surrender. Meaning they keep their war in China going, keep Korea as a colony and keep their emperor as a god. That was off the table for many reasons, nobody with a sound mind would agree to that
He's one of history's greatest monsters. Then again I would be saying the same thing if someone else had done it. But that just confirms that it makes no difference what else you do, to make the most deadly weapon mankind can think of should put you on everyone's shitlist
@@Morbing_Time we could've ended WW2 by just accepting Japan's conditions that we not execute the emperor. And Russia likely would've left us to our own devices if we hadn't decided that we had to be kings of the world and every other country should bend to our sensibilities
@@laurenmartinez55 oppenheimer isn't responsible for any of that though. his job was just to develop the bomb before the nazis might've since they had their own nuclear weapons program
@@nohbdy1122 and? I'm saying it wasn't necessary to end the war and in fact is something that without any doubt should have never existed. Everyone who contributed to the project is a monster and the biggest monster of all is the man who made it all possible
That's one of the things that always bothered me about the dropping on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Like...couldn't we just drop it on known military sights? I guess the counter is that they plane would get shot down before they could even drop it. And just blow up overhead.
That, and, as Matt Walsh once said defending the bullying of schoolchildren part of marginalized peoples, “The suffering is the point” if you want to end things. Nothing short of disabling the entire military or murdering hundreds of thousands of innocents will crush the fighting spirit of a nation convinced it is fighting for it’s future. At least that’s the idea we’re told.
I mean both hiroshima and nagasaki are valid military target,both city are industrial city especialy nagasaki also important port city,ww2 is total war and sadly in total war city can be valid military target,its the same way british RAF bomb german city like frankfurt,dresden or hamburg or in japan usa airforce bomb tokyo
It's because they believed in blanket bombing. The allies were intentionally targeting civilians under the false premise that the German and Japanese governments cared about the lives of civilians. Bombing civilians has little impact. It failed in the battle of Britain, it failed in Germany and it wasn't what changed things in Japan. The emperor overruled his incompetent cabinet, and he said it was because he wanted to avoid a land invasion destroying shries and treasures.
Every fucking city in Japan had war material production, the Japanese government had to know they could be destroyed from the air in a far more effective manner than fire bombing. The nukes did just that
for anyone who didn't understand the hindu scripture bhagavad gita part,as a hindu,let me explain// firstly,the line oppenheimer isn't entirely the correct translation,but its somewhat similar,this is the reak one "The Supreme Lord said: I am mighty Time, the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds. Even without your participation, the warriors arrayed in the opposing army shall cease to exist." and when krishna says destroyer he worlds,he means that he is time,time gives life and takes life,no escapes it.... that takes place during the battle of kurukshetra where arjuna(the prince) undergoes immense betrayal from his own family members,cousins,uncles,teachers etc,they stole his kingdom,send him to a forest exile for 14yrs etc,disrobed his wife,but still,on the battlefield,he couldn't bring himself to fight the injustice because they were family.. it is to this situation where the supreme lord krishna or vishnu tells him that as a prince,a warrior,his dharma or duty is to fight injustice and restore righteousness,and if violence as the last option is needed,then it must be used as dharma holds the upmost priority and therefore,to make him believe,krishna takes his supreme reality form,which according to arjuna was to overwhelmingly scary for the mere human eyes but also way too beautiful for the human eye,then Krishna tells that he is mighty time(death),he gives life and takes them(destoyer of worlds),even if arjuna doesn't do anything,the warriors on the other side will cease to exist(no one escapes time),but as he was born,it is arjuna's duty to fight and restore justice....that is when arjuna gains his confidence and uses the brahmastra(look it up),which was a weapon almost identitical to the atomic bomb with almost the same effect and impact as described
I found two of my cat's baby teeth, they were so tiny. Tiny bastards. I think they usually just swallow and pass them or vomit them? IDK what's normal. Cheers to Kaya! Hope she keeps thriving!
About the chatter whom Hasan went off on, he is kinda right about the best option argument. Japan was determined to continue the war indefinitely. An actual invasion of Japan would have been not only more expensive and costly in terms of American lives, but also would cause a lot more Japanese civilian casualties too.
You do know they dropped those bombs on civilians right? You are just repeating USA WW2 propaganda. Controversial opinion dropping nukes on civilians is bad
The problem with debating this is that we only know for sure what actually happened. And what actually happened was we (I'm american) killed a hundred thousand Japanese people, the government was likely preparing to surrender (there's historical evidence of this), and we did it again because we needed to test the damage of the other mechanism. At that point the Japanese were basically alone in their crusade; the chances that we could've found another way were high.
The Soviet Union was rolling over the Japanese Empire in Manchuria. The repeating victories were going to end the war soon, since the energy resources in Manchuria were needed to continue. The Japanese later admitted that the Soviet Union had destroyed all hopes of expansion. Further, the US military wanted to test the bomb’s effectiveness in cities. For the military and scientists, those cities were just experimental ‘hunting grounds’.
The atomic bombs saved millions of lives if you look at the scale of casualties a Japanese invasion would have brought not just 400000 Americans but an estimated 5 million Japanese civilians would have died considering their peoples army consisted of 18 million they were going to fight to the last women and child once you realize that, the atrocities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ultimately brought a significantly better outcome
No Fr who the fuck could get bored learning about the very nature of the universe and it’s weaponization against innocents? Like it’s exciting. Not ha ha exciting. But WHAT THE SCTUAL FUCK exciting.
@@redmoon383Just like there's a non zero chance that lightning will strike you dead the minute you leave your house. Doesn't mean you shouldn't go outside. Keep in mind that the chances of a cascading reaction are astronomically smaller than the chances of getting hit by lightning. It's more like everyone in your city gets struck by lightning at the exact same time.
the mr. blimps comment proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that azan is truly americanised. only an american could be such a dunce when it comes to historical details.
He was depressed because of his work so he tried to kill his professor and, after failing that, he decided to destroy humanity. Worst human in history contender?
Do gotta say, What did hasan want the US to do in ww2? like hes almost saying we should have just let Japan be. He also believe we should have accepted Japans first surrender which was them saying they will return to pre 1939 borders. AKA owning Korea Taiwan Manchuria ect.... Once again its just pacifism to an extreme. I dont think Hasan realizes that wars has no good guys, Just one side defending themselves and the other trying to take. and most of the time you want to support the defender. Like France the Soviet Union Iraq Afghanistan Vietnam and Ukraine.
I like how he calls science boring but has the ability to talk about politics for 12 hours straight lol
The science doesn't have enough cussy for him.
I'm the same way and I think it's because science is so cut and dry. If something is a scientific "fact" it's been tested over and over and the same outcome is always observed. Politics is literally just interpretations of what society should be and that's infinitely more interesting to me.
@@bigchilling420 Yeah you can personally dislike science without shitting on people who like science. I like listening to hasanabi + like science.
I mean even tho he says this people still like some form of science media like marine biology, I just think science is interesting because there is an infinite amount of knowledge to learn. Politics is too subjective
Great Minds Discuss science; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss Politics - Oppenheimer
Yeah regurgitating the same progressive talking points takes no brain cells idk how this amazes u
How do the Japanese feel about the bomb? Godzilla. They literally made an unkillable radioactive behemoth as an allegory for their fear of nuclear destruction.
Hideko anno and kojima are two prominent film and video game makers, all of their messaging about the US is clear resentment towards the US turning them into a puppet after commiting genocide. Kojima being more anti war and anno being anti nuclear war and both being anti Japanese rearmament
Not to mention every iconic mech characters or franchise (Mazinger, Ultraman, Evangelion, Gundam), as well as the Eikon from Final Fantasy XVI.
Also Akira
notice how it's caleld GODzilla and not SCIENCEzilla checkmate atheists
I didn't know why people called Hasan a "Himbo" until this video lol, holy shit.
To be fair he calls himself a himbo as well
@@frankguy6843 Yeah but damn lol. Having worked around ICBMs myself in the military it was just a lot to get through this one
whats a himbo? i've heard it on a post talking about Ken from Barbie ahahahah
@@laksmiranilim3903it's the male equivalent of bimbo, which refers to a good looking but dumb man/woman
@@laksmiranilim3903term for men who're good looking but dumb
Oppenheimer seemed to face the same type of harassment after the war, as Alan Turing in England. Turing was the lead mathematician who helped break the Enigma codes of the German U-boats, thus saving thousands of lives and millions of tons of shipping for the Allied navies. In1952 Turing was prosecuted for homosexuality and forced to undergo chemical castration or face prison...he committed suicide 2 years later.
Yup, and apparently allies left pink triangle “sex criminal” concentration prisoners in Nazi camps. Many of the prisoners were “sex criminals” for being gay, trans, or performing in drag. Also apparently Turing was likely autistic. Autists were interned under the black triangle for “Disabled” or “Work shy” and were often executed immediately for being useless wastes of resources. Both marginalized peoples, the queer and disabled, as well as others faced castration, execution, and more on both sides. Just some not-so-fun-facts about fascism.
Oppie was a pretty scummy guy tbh
@@bendover7841the cheating aside, dude did that so many times, forced the woman he was cheating on to give birth. He was a coward, at least Einstein was true to his ideals, Oppenheimer gave up his leftist ideals to join in on the trinity project. Willingly accepted the authoritarian nature to him and his colleagues for being liberals and socialists, then had the audacity to act like he felt guilty for not only building two atomic weapons, but creating nuclear war as we know it.
What? How are you comparing Allan Turing to Oppenheimer who willingly created a mass murder weapon? one's invention saved lives the other's killed lives?
@@yuzan3607the nuclear bomb 100% shouldn’t have been used, and with that I also think that Oppenheimer was put in a very tough spot as it was thought the nazis would get the bomb soon
If you want to feel the pain of the bombs, watch Grave of the Fireflies. But actually don’t because that shit still haunts me 30 years later.
Watching this movie is a right of passage for emotional intelligence, a painful one 😭
That little candy tin 😢
Fuck that movie, I've got bursts of emotional breakdowns for 1 week after watching it.
when i was little my mother gave me a manga about the bombs called barefoot gen (based on the life of the author) absolutely traumatized me as a kid
@@user-gw5kq1hi5g There's an anime movie too. I think most people outside of Japan saw the anime. That manga is terrifying
I would like to point out that when the bomb was being developed by Oppenheimer the idea was not killing Japanese people, but creating the technology before the Nazis. Both the Nazis and the Americans were trying to build the nuclear bomb and it was assumed that the Nazis wouldn't hold off using it. By the time the bomb was completed, however, Germany had surrendered, and the US government decided to use it on Japan. This was not a decision Oppenheimer had any part in, it was not what he had in mind when he designed the weapon, and, along with many other scientists at Los Alamos, he was against dropping the bomb. He thought that a demonstration of the bomb's power out in the desert would be enough to persuade the Japanese, without people needing to die. Even during the bomb's development he went contrary to the American exeptionalist narrative by advocating for scientific progress to be shared with the USSR. He spent the remainder of his life campaigning against nuclear weapons, to the point that the US government had to brand him a traitor and removed all his power. The narrative in this community that he was some kind of mass murdering monster is a completely one-sided, ignorant view. Even if the bomb was never used, it would need to have been built because the Nazis were building it. The only objectionable thing Oppenheimer did is thinking it was a good idea to nuke Nazi Germany.
Yep, its weird that for how much he know about political side of the war he seem to not know that Oppenheimer was very open in opposing the use of the bomb. I also hate that Veritasium didnt clarify what is his stance on the matter, I always thought that the blame put on him are way too overblown treating him like some kind of genocidal maniac when in reality he and pretty much every physicists & scientists who have worked on the manhattan project not named Teller was opposed to the idea of using the bomb. Hasan's reaction is very surface level, especially when he said copium when it is stated that Oppenheimer's situation was complicated (which it was, had he known even a bit of history)
@@BaldwinIV_of_Jerusalem Hasan doesn't know very much. He mostly regurgitates what he's heard before, and if it happens to be wrong he will never know because it's not like he reads or researches this stuff.
The test truly was not an actual 0% that it could end the planet(in Los Alamos), so simply put Oppenheimer, his team and the US government were willing to bet humanity for a stupid atomic test to scare Japanese and the world. If you dont call that a monster, i dunno what you call a monster.No consent , no information of the public, they literally put all life ont his planet up for a test. Yes, he did some correct steps along the road but the main idea remains, they all played with our futures, and you dont create a weapon of mass destruction and think nobody is gonna use it - I know Rob could have been naive, but that does not excuse anything. If I give sb power hungry a gun, and they shoot sb with it, I dont get to act surprised.For a genius he really lacked the basic understanding of humans.
In reality, the Nazi government had spent almost nothing on nuclear development, seeing it as ‘Jewish’ and their lead scientists such as Dr Heisenberg dragging his feet on the project (many say purposely).
No, the Nazi government was focusing their forward facing scientific development on ROCKETRY.
I mean, he did have some massive blind spots wrt who the people he was dealing with were, but yeah. I don’t think he wanted millions of people to die because of something he built. But he kinda should have seen something like that coming, unfortunately his ego was way too big to predict anything involving the bomb could happen without his permission. Which it clearly did, and he realized what was going on *way* too late.
Speaking from experience, when your love is theoretical physics, lab work is torture. I had to take physics 1 lab 3 times before I managed to force myself through all of the boredom. A big part of my success that time was I was paired with a football player. We had a deal where I would basically do the entire experiment (unless it took an extra hand, and I would just tell him to hold whatever), and he would go through the tedious work of doing lab reports (then I would check the math). Which I could never force myself to do. In other classes I often found ways of getting out of doing them, or doing the least I had to do pass. Even in math and physics classes where i had to do "computer labs" to cut down the math work by hours, I just did the math by hand. Labs fucking suck.
@dankmemester1066 agreed. doing lab work without a grade attached is so much more gratifying/exciting -- and possibly more stressful if the PI sucks -- than mandatory class labs
Labs are the most fun part of science imo. I loved chem lab and hated having to sit through an hour a day of markovnikov, non markovnikov blahblahblah reactions each documented by me on a 3x5 index card. For physics one, I'd like to recommend the velocity vs time chart which is 90% of algebraic physics in a single chart. For chem and other forms of physics get good at Stoichiometry, which is just canceling out units to arrive at an answer. You dont even need the equation if you have the units.
@dankmemester1066 yes lol. Unfortunately, due to fucked up fraud, the foundation that provided my scholarship went bankrupt, so I had to drop out (between that and some other very trying situations, switching to another, much less expensive school, saving up through working for a while, and other things were not an option for me). But in the years I was there, I was very stubborn and almost exclusively took math and physics classes, as that was my double major. I had to get written permission for classes starting my first semester in school, but I was very quickly able to gain access to masters classes. They were SUCH a breath of fresh air. Though I did run into some problems when the dean of the physics department would block my access to certain resources, because I was "too young" to be doing the projects I was doing. I wasn't supposed to be doing independent research in analytic number theory. I wasn't allowed to have any access to any extra computing power I would have needed for my project that merged chaos theory and plasma physics, so I had to present it purely theoretically without any data. Still got a great grade though because I was one of two people to actually understand how to come up with a hypothesis that could have resulted in a strange attractor (in theory). Ect. It was very frustrating, and the dean was vengeful. I had an A in relativity, which I had studied since 7th grade as a hobby, but I had medical issues (which the school recognized). I had to take my final and turn some stuff in late. I could only take the final (which I would have gotten an A on, or passed the class with a 0), if she administered and graded it. She forced the professor to ignore my grades and fail me. My advisor said am appeal would go nowhere. So that was another reason I walked away, especially because I had developed severe PTSD by that point from something else, and the only way to gain favor with her the mext year would be to attend every class. My ptsd made that an impossibility. I still read textbooks when by brain allows, I still have the issues from severe head trauma I had back then, and now I have MS.
But I have found that nerds don't like to discuss things. It tends to be what they went into for money, not their passion. Or they dumb things down, and we both end up frustrated.
I do tutor a lot though. That way all of the kids who dream of going into science degrees but see math as impossible... well, that changes. One of the people I tutored even became a math tutor lol. It's too bad I don't have my college degree officially, though I was only a few classes away from completing all of the math and physics requirements, and I could have tried filling in the rest at a community college maybe. I'm a really good calculus teacher. Far from my dream job. But when all of your dreams are dead and buried, helping kids reach theirs is the next best thing I suppose.
@@wodthehunter8145 hated chem lol. And the higher up physics classes with no labs were much better, like relativity and chaos theory. Though chaos did have some bullshit cumputer labs, but I cheated. I traded teaching people the actual subject matter, they shared their typed up programs that were not too difficult, but I had never taken programming, I'm dyslexic, and I had a head injury that made me get migraines if I focused on a computer screen too long. Sadly, when it came to a true understanding of chaos theory, I was one of two that understood. Though I was the best at it, and I would say it was closer to the understanding of my teacher, who was working on her doctorate. I had to explain my final project twice. But all of it came to me pretty easily, she only excelled in a small part of chaos theory, which was on the mathematics side vs. physics side. It is taught in two different ways in college.
I agree. Sadly, I wasn't able to experience doing lab work in graduate school because of COVID. I wonder if I'd had enjoyed it given the chance. But, yes, lab work during college was so boring.
I laughed so hard when Hasan realised they weren’t talking about whale sperm omg
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He’s lucky that Austin and QT weren’t there , he’d never get back on track with the conversation and video after saying that
That’s our himbo
Haha that was hilarious
@@Reprodestruxion Austin pissed me off when I was trying to watch the video about WV KY like he was feeling himself way too much
Step #1: Get Nukes
Step #2: DO NOT Give Up Your Nukes
WHAT DO I ALWAYS SAY CHAT
Step #1.5: If someone accuses you of having nukes, stop everything and FIND NUKES
read this in adrew tate voice
step #3: two wasn't enough /j
Hasan being concerned out about Veritasium (briefly) going over nuclear fission is funny to me. Understanding the science of a nuclear bomb isn't that difficult. Getting the resources to actually build one is a different story
Its wild that they waited three days to drop a second atom bomb. They saw how horrifying it was over three days and were like "yeah more of that"
They gave Japan a chance to surrender. They didn't do it.
I mean, Japan should have surrendered the first time, no? But it’s hard for me to pity them considering one of my older relatives were part of their “comfort women” shit. In my opinion, they fucking deserved it. My home country, Philippines, was there sitting quietly and not bothering them.
@@purplegorilla9592“They could’ve surrendered” “They shouldn’t have fought back” dude- hundreds of thousands murdered barely a weekend after even more hundreds of thousands is not a chance at surrendering peacefully its a mass murder followed very very speedily by another mass murder. Surrender isn’t just “I give up” its “have your way with my homeland”. Emotional intelligence of a squirrel.
you people forget that they gave the japanese goverment a change to surrender. they clearly didnt and they found out real horrors
@@shanuz9886the leaders didn’t. The people did.
“I’ve suddenly become Kaya, destroyer of floors”
How’d they get a guy who looks so much like Cillian Murphy?
Japan military leaders attempted a coup when the emperor wanted to surrender. It also took two Atomic bombs before the emperor chose to surrender. Forgien policy is complicated.
The use of nuclear weapons in WW2 were for several reasons and most had nothing to do with ending the war. As far as options for ending the war it seems the Allies could of either gone with a land invasion of mainland Japan(which probably would of ended up splitting Japan into 2 countries like Korea) or perhaps an isolation option via embargo similar to Cuba or continued bombing(nuclear or firebomb) to force Japan to surrender. The reason they went with the nuclear option was to signal to the Soviets(and the rest of the world) we had the bomb and were willing to use it(power play). Also to further the science experiment. We had detonated a bomb in the middle of the desert but scientists and those in the military wanted to know how it would effect a targeted area/environment(buildings and people etc). Another reason is the potential of the American public response(politics) to NOT using the weapon to try and end the war vs sending American troops into harms way via a land invasion. Along with the MASSIVE amount of tax payer funds that went into the project of creating the device....as sad as it sounds the people would want to see something for their investment.
Bottom line war is madness. You cant try and rationalize anything when it comes to killing others. Unfortunately given our short time on this planet as a species it seems perhaps human's destiny is to destroy ourselves....either directly through war or via proxy from killing the planet.
I've heard this, but I don't know if it is true.
Also, you should mention communications by Japanese diplomats feigning surrender to Soviets.
But, the idea is that it would end the war sooner, which is was partially responsible, and prevented the death of millions more.
Idk the utilitarian math on that, but I don't know if one can safely say that it was not in ambition to end the war or prevent further deaths.
What an extremely ignorant observation... The invasion of Japan would've costed nearly a million deaths on both the Japanese side and the allies in only the first year. Which is already 8x more deaths compared to the bombs
@@christopher5784you are right, Japan was planning to surrender to the soviets. The bombs were to secure a puppet state next to the soviets
@christopher5784 we'll never know for sure, but I find the evidence that the decision to drop the bombs was unjustified, to be compelling.
See for example Shaun's video on the topic, I saw it a while ago and it's quite long so I wouldn't do it justice if I tried to summarize it here, but it's pretty solid.
Bro same conclusion I came to. It's really like humans just want the suffering to end as quick as possible.
My PhD work focuses on other things, but Hasan’s take on US Allied position in WWII is pretty good.
Weirdly, Hitler didn’t take advantage of the obvious Klan-Nazi potential alliance. Complicated. But mostly a nationalistic thing, I think.
Many don't know the united states could have joined Hitler but the Japanese attacked and cemented us in the war
Maybe he felt that the Klan wouldn’t be willing to work with the Japanese.
If you're at all familiar with US history you'd know that what he said was pretty much bs. The broadly held attitude in America at the time was isolationist, the perception being that European wars were their own problem and only server to entangle American in problems that historically had nothing to do with them. Hasan acts like it was almost a coin flip to determine which side the US joined, ignoring that joining the axis was an extremely unpopular opinion. The most likely outcome would have been neutrality if the US hadn't joined the allies. Id love to see Hasan show some evidence for this claim beyond "corporate something something, populism something something"
@yayap001 As someone with a history degree he's 100% correct. He didn't say it was a coin flip at any point more so that we had equal hate to Germans and Commies before and at the start of the war. That's why the population was isolationist and why FDR supplied both sides. Hasan literally says "thank god for pearl harbor" because if we didn't get that skin in the game we would have stayed on the fence and probably not be the first nation with nuclear weapons and who would have? Probably the Germans or the Soviets...Hasan is not trying to get in the mind of an average US citizen in the early 40s but describe how if we stayed netural, the US would've probably bent the knee to Germany or the USSR if we didn't join either side.
@@yayap001 For one thing, the US refused to cooperate with the early USSR, but signed a peace treaty with Nazi Germany almost sooner than any other Allied country did. And let's not act like the desires of the populace of the US dictates US gov't policy. Nazi Germany was certainly very popular with American business, whereas the USSR had no material gains to offer the US- in fact, the rise of the USSR was a threat to the interests of the US capitalist ruling class.
I'll just quote Michael Parenti, because he said it best in Blackshirts and Reds:
"Italian fascism and German Nazism had their admirers within the U.S. business community and the corporate-owned press. Bankers, publishers, and industrialists, including the likes of Henry Ford, traveled to Rome and Berlin to pay homage, receive medals, and strike profitable deals. Many did their utmost to advance the Nazi war effort, sharing military-industrial secrets and engaging in secret transactions with the Nazi government, even after the United States entered the war. During the 1920s and early 1930s, major publications like Fortune, the Wall Street Journal, Saturday Evening Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune, and Christian Science Monitor hailed Mussolini as the man who rescued Italy from anarchy and radicalism...
"As with Mussolini, so with Hitler. The press did not look too unkindly upon der Fuehrer's Nazi dictatorship. There was a strong "Give Adolph A Chance" contigent, some of it greased by Nazi money. In exchange for more positive coverage in the Hearst newpapers, for instance, the Nazis paid almost ten times the standard subscription rate for Hearst's INS wire service. In return, William Randolph Hearst instructed his correspondents in Germany to file friendly reports about Hitler's regime. Those who refused were transferred or fired. Hearst newpapers even opened their pages to occasional guest columns by prominent Nazi leaders like Alfred Rosenberg and Hermann Goring.
"By the mid to late 1930s, Italy and Germany, allied with Japan, another industrial latecomer, were aggressively seeking a share of the world's markets and colonial booty, an expansionism that brought then increasingly into conflict with more established Western capitalist nations like Great Britain, France, and the United States. As the clouds of war gathered, U.S. press opinion about the Axis powers took on a decisively critical tone." (Pgs 10-11)
you may be the best hasan clip channel. really love the nice edits here and there, without changing the content too much. really good balance, good job!!
We really gotta use "innocent civilians" instead of "people" for stuff like this, it hits harder I feel
Well, soldiers are people, but most still see a distinction there. I don't necessarily agree with it, but most people do.
@@nevadanate4957
Yes but soldiers, while coerced and indoctrinated into doing so, are still a direct threat. Killing a soldier who is convinced he must kill you is self defence. The moment he sees you and he is armed it is likely you’ll either die there at his hand or gamble wether you will in his prison. Taking his life is likely saving yours. Killing his parents, siblings, children, partner, cousins, friends, all in one fell swoop, indiscriminately, that is an evil unlike anything.
Yeah, that's how propaganda works.
They weren’t innocent
Truman was like: i hate communism lets make a bomb that's essentially a piece of the sun
Anybody else notice how kaiya wags her tail whenever the Nazis are mentioned? Suspect
Sometimes I forget how brain dead Hasan’s chat can be
He has good knowledge of politics and stuff but not an all rounder in other stuff
hasan's jock himbo is very prevalent in this video lolol
It's honestly funny in a sad way that Hasan was talking about how these weapons of mass destruction were being made with the express purpose of killing civilians, and someone in chat was like "Oh so there were no military bases in Japan?". Like dude, of course there was but they weren't using them on military bases, now were they?
Hiroshima and Nagasaki did have military value, though.
The US, and pretty much EVERY major nation involved in the war, that had the capability, bombed civilian cities.
Obviously, cities had factories that could help in the war, but it was also to instill fear on the general population.
All this to say, the Atomic Bombs really weren't unique from a strategic viewpoint.
Thankfully, war isn't conducted as such since the Korean War...unless you are Russia in Ukraine...
@@FloofyMinarithose aren't wars now are they, they're markets.
Yeahhh you don't know what you're talking about.
It was supposed to be Kokura anyways and the civilian casualty percent was wayyy higher.
@@FloofyMinari I would have agreed with you, but the choice of the bombing location was clearly concerned with increasing civilian casualties and affecting the morale of the Japanese population which was being trained to resist an armed invasion of the homelands. They wanted the "most effective use of the bomb". Lawrence, if I recall correctly, told them that an effective demonstration of the device at sea should be enough to spook the Japanese. But, ... why would anyone listen to the scientists?
Japan deserved it but civilians didn’t
I like to think oppenheimer actually came up with that “destroyer of worlds” line way ahead of time and couldn’t wait to drop it
(bomb goes off, scientists celebrating)
“yeah. yeah. so sick. now I am-“
(more cheering)
“ha ha. right? you guys, guess what: now I am be-“
(another scientists interrupts him)
“damnit! guys: _nowiambecomedeathdestroyerofworlds!”_
(everyone is like “Whoaaa dude that’s like the PERFECT thing to say right now, opp”)
“yeah that’s just some cool shit I just thought of. just now. someone write that down that I said that”
oh yeah im convinced he couldnt wait to drop that line, and how can you blame him? its one of the hardest in the history of physics and science overall.
I mean of course he did, because he didn't make it up? Have you not heard it's a quote from the Baghavad Gita? He read it beforehand.
@@nevadanate4957 oh I know. just to explain the joke: it’s always portrayed that he’s just like this worldly multidisciplinary scholar who, familiar with the bagavad gita, and in a stroke of sublime inspiration, simply _recalled_ the quote at the moment of the test. but this joke post presupposes this notion. what I am attempting to subvert here (again, can’t stress this enough, in JOKE form) is the idea that he wasn’t divinely inspired at that moment… that he actually had been planning to drop that line at that moment, in order to come across as smart and insightful.
but yeah, sometimes not every internet comment is serious. sometimes posts are jokes. it’s crazy, but there you have it.
@@AwesometownUSA and jokes that are good make people laugh, and jokes that aren't good just cause confusion
Ignorance is the lack of knowledge, Arrogance is the inability to obtain new knowledge through stubborn pride. It is with in my belief Hasan shares both of these traits in spades.
This was way more informative than it should have been lol
Not necessarily, if you have some sort of fundamental understanding of quantum physics and its mechanics then this video can be subjectively considered to be heavily dumbed down. This is just the wrong audience for this video, I mean it's twitch of all places come on now. Most of Veritasuim's videos are about the same as far as the depth of information that is presented, albeit some might be harder to understand than others. So this isn't out of the ordinary or over-informative at all. His channel is just not for everyone.
@@darkmatter9233precisely. If science is not your thing, and if you struggle with math, this is likely not your lane. People swerve and wonder why they crash. 😂😂😂
Everyone mentioned in that vedio is among the most influential men of all time..100
Hasan watching Veritasium is something I never expected
I know I usually don't have to watch veritasium twice. Also, veritasium is a billionaire funded CIA asset, but I still love him.
He watched several videos already.
@@Michaelroni-n-cheese ayo really veritasium is getting that bag for a youtuber
@@Michaelroni-n-cheese how is he a billionaire funded cia asset
@@SharkWithADrill ruclips.net/video/CM0aohBfUTc/видео.html
Just a place to start.
Oppenheimer is not an evil person. His reason to make the bomb was based on his interpretation of information he had access too and assumptions on how the tool he made could be used. At the time the bomb was dropped it would have been a reasonable assumption that it would take capturing the capital and the death of the leader to end the war like it had with Germany if one had the information available to Oppenheimer. Most of the blame of the bombings should be on Truman, high level us military and intelligence leadership. Also consider the fact that Japan employed suicide bombers and people fighting to the last man on multiple occasions would make the idea of them giving up hard to believe when their there soldiers had shown such fanatism. The idea that the bomb was necessary would have been seen as completely valid if you didn't consider that their leadership were cowards compared to their airman.
Just say "war crimes are okay if they don't submit" and be done with it. There is no reason to ever do war crimes, it is never a good strategic decision unless you are trying to do genocide. Time and again countries that commit war crimes always end up having a long term issue of having to have constantly heightened security to stop "terrorists".
@@MrCrunch808sometimes you need to do a smaller crime to prevent a bigger crime
@@MrCrunch808 I probably said it wrong because I’m drunk on vacation but I’m not saying the use of the bombs was justified. I’m saying that Us leadership misled many into committing war crimes with by misleading them. I stated facts that would have been used to justify said actions so that those who were ignorant to the wider realities ended up a part of atrocities they might not have imagined beforehand.
@@MrCrunch808 like how an 18 year old Russian conscript with a trusting nature thinks he’s doing the right thing in Ukraine. Ignorance vs malice.
Not a perfect analogy but like I hope I get the idea across that people more often than not believe they are doing good beyond their own self interest. Our modern society gives used far far more information and more importantly perspective on any any conflict in almost real time that makes the atrocities of WW2 seem inhuman
Oppenheimer somehow manages to edgelord the Gita quote while simultaneously underselling Vishnu's terrible true form as a guy with simply many arms.
Highly recommend the Mahabharata, do not recommend building nuclear bombs
didn't really know Hasan talked about 731 and Nanking massacre, it's simply nice for more people at least know about Japanese war crimes in the Eastern front of WWII.
He has always been very good about making those aspects of history clear and not letting them be lost by the cultural significance of Japan today. If you enjoy his efforts spreading awareness on the subject, search his coverage of the Shinzo Abe assasination and Abe's political history.
It was all about that during the Shinzo Abe assassination. But obviously the Kempetai had a very small presence in those bomb cities. Nor does it justify the damage by those explosions and the after effects of radiation. Not all Japanese were fascists either
@@thomasingram8713 oh I’m Chinese…yeah but it’s really invigorating to see people mention it, especially towards a broader western audience
@@Reprodestruxion Oh ofc I get what you mean. I’m also a weeb, but the recognition of the historical facts are crucial if we want to understand the geopolitical stands of the countries in the past
@@mikaelwalker3327 for sure! I learned about Nanjing in highschool, but it was from personal reading material, not because they actually teach it in many if any schools at all. Perhapse it is because its in the best interest of "American exceptionalism" propoganda to not look too deeply into war crimes, or else the record shattering amount of human attrocities committed by America may come under greater scrutiny. American interests always seem to gravitate around these vague notions of "good guys vs bad guys" that require you to delegate your understanding to authority. Not too different to civilians of Imperial Japan or Fascist Germany.
I understand the scars of the evil acts Japan did in Nanjing and beyond in the greater Indochina region will never be forgotten. But I certainly hope you dont believe the droppings of the Atomic Bombs were justified.
you should let your dog win in tug of war around 50% of the time.
The use of atom bombs in ww2 will always be debated, but it becomes evident that a lot of people take it the context of total war out of it. The Manhattan project scientists worked on this because most of them believed it to be a preferable option to either the nazis getting a bomb, or a total invasion of Japan. There are multiple sources to confirm this. The killings of civilians is horrific don't get me wrong, but unfortunately it seemed then, as it does now, that civilian deaths are an inescapable part of modern warfare
Let's not huff copium. Let's not be a whataboutist about what happened. From a Japanese (We are one of the heaviest addicts of copium) to my Americans brothers and sisters. Peace.
Classic Himbo moment thinking the oil from sperm whales was actually whale sperm
No one questioned his sanity for loving New Mexico?
New Mexico got some charm. Not the cities obviously, but it ain't the worst
As a person allergic to apples and pears, can confirm.
one of the worst cases of hasan streamer brain, pause the video to say something that gets talked about later. Said copium at the end when the declaration itself was against the bomb lol
If we didn't want to be evil and kill a bunch of civilians we could've dropped the first bomb in an area that was noticeable but relatively harmless followed by a warning that we'd drop a second bomb on either Hiroshima or Nagasaki if they didn't surrender in a week so they could evacuate both cities and would have to either guess which city to defend or split their forces to stop the bombing.
They had been bombed silly by every country and their mothers for weeks, maybe months, before the two big bombs. They didn't give a fuck about civilians, which is why people say dropping the bombs was not the reason for their surrender
The issue was that we only had enough material for two bombs, hence why one was gun style and one plutonium. If the Japanese called the Americans bluff, it would be several months at best before a third bomb could be produced. In terms of the evacuation warning, the Air Force dropped leaflets over (I believe) Hiroshima, giving warning.
my man the japanese high command didnt even react after the first bomb was dropped lmao, they were literally doing the hasan chair meme and the japanese navy was basically saying "oh you got another one where that came from? probably not."
some of you REALLY should read up on the last days of war in japan because its really wasnt in any way how either you or hasan are portraying it. you FUNDEMENTALLY misunderstand the motivations and convictions of the japanese militarists.
@@pissfather6798No.
@@voxomnes9537
Yes.
Christopher Nolan did in fact show all that science stuff lol
As a th year cheist student its very funny seeing people outside of stem reacting to this
The US was absolutely going to invade mainland Japan. Mainly so they wouldn't have to split it with the USSR like the did with Germany. But they were also still pissed at Japan for Pearl Harbor, inhumane treatment for allied POWs, kamikazes, brutal fighting to the last man when they were already beaten (Iwo Jima, Okinawa)etc.
They wanted to make Japan pay, and the nukes were the quicker, simpler options. I'm not saying it is right, but people seem to undersell how much the US hated Japan, and how American propaganda sold to the public how they were less human, even compared to the Nazis.
I mean the death count would have been way higher with a full scale invasion also and if the Soviets also invaded and split the country it would be like Korea and we all know how shit that is with current knowledge
Did America care about communism in the 40s? Yes, very much. We invaded Soviet union in 1918, from two sides, for unknown reasons, deployed troops were too small for ground invasion or to stop the revolution, but two army units, one in the tundra in the north west near Finland, and another in kamchatka in the east next to Japanese expedition earn polar bear insignias for valor in combat.
Then after their withdrawal, soviets are isolated and under sanctions. Their only trading partner until 1941 was Germany, until they suddenly become the allies when the Nazis attack them. Enemy of our enemy kind of thing.
I love that there are people pretending that calling out your own nation for war crimes is somehow a distraction, excuse, AND DEFENCE of the war crimes of others??
Just found out that as early as July 11 1945 the American government was aware of discussions of a Japanese surrender between the Empire and the USSR should the latter declare war against the former. A second bomb was not necessary and absolutely did not have to be dropped on the next most heavily populated city.
to get in on the fun. th idea that aliens where picking up the Nuke blast. like we do with tracking earthquakes and volcanic movement. if i was an alien who was keeping track of some wild looking mammals, and then a blast like the Czar bomba is picked up. id be really interested in wtf was going on.
I went to Hiroshima, went to all museum and memorials. Can t shake the feeling that humanity really should have never been able to create something this deadly. It truly feels like the power of God, but in awfully shakey, petty, impulsive hands.
Stating the reason the US joined the Allies and failing to mention anything about the Nazi's is the same as Nikki Haley forgetting to say that slavery was a cause of the civil war.
They did show a lot of the "boring science stuff," though (iirc) they messed up the timeline of some stuff (at least terms that were being used). I could be misremembering though, I didn't take notes while watching lmao.
Pretty sussy that we made 2 different types of bombs, and then later decided to drop 2 bombs on Japan, one of each type.
I just got an Oppenheimer ad while in Germany and hearing them talk abt nazis in german is wild to me
Elaborate
@@ciarz_what this user is saying is that they saw a German Ad for the Oppenheimer movie and since we dub EVERYTHING, the trailer/ad was fully in German. So it was kind of odd to them to hear them talk about tue nazis in the movie while it being said in German :D
@@katarinasg5259 yeah I apparently just can't read
Just look how big Kaya is now 😭
I definitely lack that sitting-flesh
Puppy needs a walk
Lots of things uses to use whale oil. It's actually what made mobey dick relevant at the time it was made, because whaling was a big profession because whales were actually people main source of oil
5:32 for 10 min of Kaya pets
Highlights:
6:56
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This helps, I'm gonna skip those parts
Sometimes you gotta roll the dice on planetary annihilation. 🤷 Fuck it
Did you miss the part where they did the math and found out that its extremely unlikely?
I wish the planet ignited fr fr
@@Morbing_Time No... I didn't miss it. I was just kidding. Ya know like the kind of dumb joke that only a real fucking downer would feel inclined to set someone straight about?
But now that I'm thinking about it "extremely unlikely" is not the same as impossible. And how unlikely? Like if I throw 3 D20s and all three land on 20 would we be annihilated? Your buzz kill ass comment made me think more about this and honestly, I'm changing what was meant as a dumb joke to what I actually understand to be correct. If we are talking about lighting Earth's fucking atmosphere on fire anything short of Dream's Minecraft odds aren't going to cut it.
God this is such a meme. They didn't actually think it would happen lmao
12:40 being German: hahaha funny
Everyone expect a visit from Homeland Security. Be cool
Tankies and Imperial Japan apologia, name a more iconic duo.
31:53 woah chill its not created to bomb civilians, well maybe technically it is considering the nazis started their work before the americans did. For the manhattan project that was not the intended use of it (atleast in the beginning), it was mainly for the nazis. It only really changed when the US found out that the russians were also trying to create their own.
I really think that the people that put that much weight on the atomic bomb need to get some perspective. The actual use of the atomic bomb was not really all that remarkable in terms of human carnage, other than its speed. It was able to kill tens of thousands in seconds. However, the fire bombing was just as bad in total numbers. Let's not forget that 70 million people died in WWII, most of them civilians. The Japanese killed millions of Chinese civilians because the could. They were almost worst than the Nazi's when it came to the horrendous war crimes they committed.
It was felt at the time that using the bomb to win the war earlier was the best thing to do. It was thought that mass destruction would demoralize the civilian population nd force a surrender. it would only be months later that a study would be published by the US military that revealed that strategic bombing of this kind does not lead to surrender but only leads to further galvanization of the population. This was not known at the time as the study was not complete. Regardless, it was estimated that 50,000 US solders would be lost in the taking of japan and likely around 1 million Japanese would be killed in the effort. To most at the time, the use of the nuclear bomb was a far better deal.
Whether or not you agree with this kind of cold calculous does not mean that the people who made it were just bloodthirsty monsters. History is much more complicated than that.
Great video reaction!
You never wast your score streaks
The pressure needed for 6 kg of plutonium to go critical is literally higher then at the bottom of the mairiana trench!
crazy people thinking two war crimes make a right
The puppy pick up so cuteeee
I think of some inventions that were way more destructive than the nuclear bomb
That was a bomb movie!!!
that movie was The Bomb!
@@churro6160 It blew my skin right off dude!
@@FEARPHYSIC 😶💀
Me as a german physiks teacher talk about this to my 9th Graders in a similar manner.
Even will Show this Video
Japan literally tried to surrender multiple times with a few concessions, but we decided that we ain't gonna give them concessions, we dropped the bomb and then we gave them much more concessions than Japan wanted
We literally dropped the bomb to show our ego
The Japanese government refused to surrender.
Not true.
Yeah unconditional surrender to utterly destroy japans military establishment, and punish war crime perpetrators. The whole point was to bring Japan down like Germany and Italy not give them a special deal.
Germany also tried to surrender to the allies but we refused because the allies new that Germany had to be utterly destroyed in order for a long peace.
They wanted a conditional surrender. Meaning they keep their war in China going, keep Korea as a colony and keep their emperor as a god.
That was off the table for many reasons, nobody with a sound mind would agree to that
He's one of history's greatest monsters. Then again I would be saying the same thing if someone else had done it. But that just confirms that it makes no difference what else you do, to make the most deadly weapon mankind can think of should put you on everyone's shitlist
Yes he knew exactly what he was doing just because he felt bad about it after doesn't undo what he did
His work ended WW2 and prevented a war between the west and eastern block
@@Morbing_Time we could've ended WW2 by just accepting Japan's conditions that we not execute the emperor. And Russia likely would've left us to our own devices if we hadn't decided that we had to be kings of the world and every other country should bend to our sensibilities
@@laurenmartinez55 oppenheimer isn't responsible for any of that though. his job was just to develop the bomb before the nazis might've since they had their own nuclear weapons program
@@nohbdy1122 and? I'm saying it wasn't necessary to end the war and in fact is something that without any doubt should have never existed. Everyone who contributed to the project is a monster and the biggest monster of all is the man who made it all possible
That's one of the things that always bothered me about the dropping on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Like...couldn't we just drop it on known military sights?
I guess the counter is that they plane would get shot down before they could even drop it. And just blow up overhead.
That, and, as Matt Walsh once said defending the bullying of schoolchildren part of marginalized peoples, “The suffering is the point” if you want to end things. Nothing short of disabling the entire military or murdering hundreds of thousands of innocents will crush the fighting spirit of a nation convinced it is fighting for it’s future. At least that’s the idea we’re told.
I mean both hiroshima and nagasaki are valid military target,both city are industrial city especialy nagasaki also important port city,ww2 is total war and sadly in total war city can be valid military target,its the same way british RAF bomb german city like frankfurt,dresden or hamburg or in japan usa airforce bomb tokyo
It's because they believed in blanket bombing. The allies were intentionally targeting civilians under the false premise that the German and Japanese governments cared about the lives of civilians.
Bombing civilians has little impact. It failed in the battle of Britain, it failed in Germany and it wasn't what changed things in Japan. The emperor overruled his incompetent cabinet, and he said it was because he wanted to avoid a land invasion destroying shries and treasures.
Every fucking city in Japan had war material production, the Japanese government had to know they could be destroyed from the air in a far more effective manner than fire bombing. The nukes did just that
for anyone who didn't understand the hindu scripture bhagavad gita part,as a hindu,let me explain//
firstly,the line oppenheimer isn't entirely the correct translation,but its somewhat similar,this is the reak one
"The Supreme Lord said: I am mighty Time, the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds. Even without your participation, the warriors arrayed in the opposing army shall cease to exist."
and when krishna says destroyer he worlds,he means that he is time,time gives life and takes life,no escapes it....
that takes place during the battle of kurukshetra where arjuna(the prince) undergoes immense betrayal from his own family members,cousins,uncles,teachers etc,they stole his kingdom,send him to a forest exile for 14yrs etc,disrobed his wife,but still,on the battlefield,he couldn't bring himself to fight the injustice because they were family..
it is to this situation where the supreme lord krishna or vishnu tells him that as a prince,a warrior,his dharma or duty is to fight injustice and restore righteousness,and if violence as the last option is needed,then it must be used as dharma holds the upmost priority and therefore,to make him believe,krishna takes his supreme reality form,which according to arjuna was to overwhelmingly scary for the mere human eyes but also way too beautiful for the human eye,then Krishna tells that he is mighty time(death),he gives life and takes them(destoyer of worlds),even if arjuna doesn't do anything,the warriors on the other side will cease to exist(no one escapes time),but as he was born,it is arjuna's duty to fight and restore justice....that is when arjuna gains his confidence and uses the brahmastra(look it up),which was a weapon almost identitical to the atomic bomb with almost the same effect and impact as described
Op was such a barbie girl boss
20 thousand tonnes of teenage ninja turtles
Spoiler about a historical biopic. That's so funny. 😂
3:33 OOOOOOOOHHHHH BEEEEEEG STRETCH
I found two of my cat's baby teeth, they were so tiny. Tiny bastards. I think they usually just swallow and pass them or vomit them? IDK what's normal. Cheers to Kaya! Hope she keeps thriving!
About the chatter whom Hasan went off on, he is kinda right about the best option argument. Japan was determined to continue the war indefinitely. An actual invasion of Japan would have been not only more expensive and costly in terms of American lives, but also would cause a lot more Japanese civilian casualties too.
You do know they dropped those bombs on civilians right? You are just repeating USA WW2 propaganda.
Controversial opinion dropping nukes on civilians is bad
The atomic bombes weren’t the reason the Japanese gave up
dont try genuine historical fact with these people they actually just dont care.
The problem with debating this is that we only know for sure what actually happened. And what actually happened was we (I'm american) killed a hundred thousand Japanese people, the government was likely preparing to surrender (there's historical evidence of this), and we did it again because we needed to test the damage of the other mechanism. At that point the Japanese were basically alone in their crusade; the chances that we could've found another way were high.
The Soviet Union was rolling over the Japanese Empire in Manchuria. The repeating victories were going to end the war soon, since the energy resources in Manchuria were needed to continue. The Japanese later admitted that the Soviet Union had destroyed all hopes of expansion. Further, the US military wanted to test the bomb’s effectiveness in cities. For the military and scientists, those cities were just experimental ‘hunting grounds’.
ok fast forwarded thru top of the hour description, that was wicked sick dude.
SMH
They're gonna make Opp WOKE.
/s
The atomic bombs saved millions of lives if you look at the scale of casualties a Japanese invasion would have brought not just 400000 Americans but an estimated 5 million Japanese civilians would have died considering their peoples army consisted of 18 million they were going to fight to the last women and child once you realize that, the atrocities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ultimately brought a significantly better outcome
Yay using Veritasium
This isn't boring.
No Fr who the fuck could get bored learning about the very nature of the universe and it’s weaponization against innocents? Like it’s exciting. Not ha ha exciting. But WHAT THE SCTUAL FUCK exciting.
Also, no, there wasnt a non zero chance of the world ending. The guy THEORIZED that there MAY be a chance that this COULD happen
So.. non-zero then?
@@redmoon383Just like there's a non zero chance that lightning will strike you dead the minute you leave your house. Doesn't mean you shouldn't go outside. Keep in mind that the chances of a cascading reaction are astronomically smaller than the chances of getting hit by lightning. It's more like everyone in your city gets struck by lightning at the exact same time.
Don’t agree here hasan. Bad take
the mr. blimps comment proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that azan is truly americanised. only an american could be such a dunce when it comes to historical details.
The bombs saved millions of lives.
Kill even more
Science is not boring.
Just...who names their kid "Wolfgang". Like, come on.
He was depressed because of his work so he tried to kill his professor and, after failing that, he decided to destroy humanity. Worst human in history contender?
What is this, critical mass theory?!
english isnt my native,so i also was gazed when heard sperm whale,hahaha
Do gotta say, What did hasan want the US to do in ww2? like hes almost saying we should have just let Japan be. He also believe we should have accepted Japans first surrender which was them saying they will return to pre 1939 borders. AKA owning Korea Taiwan Manchuria ect.... Once again its just pacifism to an extreme. I dont think Hasan realizes that wars has no good guys, Just one side defending themselves and the other trying to take. and most of the time you want to support the defender. Like France the Soviet Union Iraq Afghanistan Vietnam and Ukraine.
This man really just thought they double tapped Japan with whale nut
... ooooooh
I'm leaving to watch Barbie in about 10 minutes
Calling Einstein a dumbass has me ☠️😂
Kaya’s 1st baby toof??! 😮❤
We already learnt the science of a nuclear chain reaction in the final year of HS lol
Hasan getting a dog has made me watch so much less of his videos