An **anti-hero** is a protagonist with flawed, morally ambiguous traits who does good but in unconventional or selfish ways. A **villain** is an antagonist who opposes the hero and acts with malicious or destructive intent. Anti-heroes can be relatable; villains are typically adversarial.@@malimoor2654
How did you know that? Because how family was used against him? What made you think that was his mindset? His body language showed me it was coming before he said “I can’t take you with me this time”
@@BeyondtheBox1Sofia said ozs greatest strength is that he’s close to no one …I knew oz would take Vic out eventually…ever since the first episode when he was gonna body him after he helped him …
@@donrog5035 honestly I don't mind the anti hero kraven. But Venom, and any other spiderman villains should be a villain. Kraven can be a villain, but can also be an anti hero, as he's a hunter. He could take a hit on spiderman or rhino and I think if done right, Aaron Taylor Johnson will do a GREAT job as Kraven
@@GatorST3I agree about ATJ as Kraven…..the trailer looks amazing, especially from what we see of his performance but, who knows how garbage the movie could be. Venom/Madame Web/Morbius make me a little worried lol.
GODDAMN I LOVE THE WRITING IN THIS SHOW.. a villian backstory that explains but doesnt excuse the villian, makes you see light in them and then at the end you see the real them... Chefs kiss 10/10
Not 2024 but if you haven't go watch Utopia (the us version then get mad it got canceled and go watch the uk version for the extra season) if you want something equally artistic as it is thought out, prolly my favorite series.. as far as 2024 "From" is a banger if you liked lost before it got dumb
He could have even sent Vic away, but he chose to kill him. He wanted to kill Vic with his bare hands to also kill off that part of himself that can become attached to someone like he accidentally did with Vic
The whole show was literally him screwing over every single person who was in a relationship with him. Victor was always dead when he was no longer useful. I still hope he comes back as a villain or something, but it was honestly the perfect way to show this penguin is really just a piece of shit that will do it ALL to win. This is probably the best fleshed out villain in all of live action Batman imo
Though they made it unlikely for Vic to come back, I don’t think that the choke was very legit lol. We need some jiu jitsu experts to analyze the choke because I don’t think that choke would kill Vic let alone even put him to sleep that quick.
People feeling sorry for Sofia, forgetting that she killed a kid Vic's age in the first episode, murdered almost her whole family, killed a mentally handicapped patient and bombed a part of Gotham killing thousands. She is worse than Carmine, Penguin and just below the Riddler. She didn't need to be the real Hangman, she became something far worse.
I think it's easier to get behind her because she has empathy for others. Penguin would only be upset by a bomb like that going off because he'd be afraid he'd be held responsible for it.
Spoilers for those who didn't watch the show: She had her reasons to kill Falcons, she spared a child and got her out of the crime world. She didn't kill thousands. Not part of Gotham. It was a single street. Yes, she disregarded civilians. Yes, it is bad. Writers a little bit over dramatized the size of explosion for such a little package. It had a lot of space, it should've dissipated through tunnels, maybe it hit a columns and collapsed a floor. Well actually I might be wrong and it also hit the gas pipes or something. Oz and Sofia are different. One was born this way and wanted this life and was willing to do everything to get on top. The other was born into this world, was relatively stable, her family got her into hells and the only thing that kept her sanity in one piece, her brother - killed just a day after her exit of Arkham. So revenge was the only option. Oz, a man who actually got her in this hell, played her and killed that brother of hers. She had so many reasons not to quit untill Oz is dead. And she got him 3 times only for him to escape again and again. On the beginning, in his flat, and after the explosion. The girl just needed to press a trigger for cause of all her problems to go away.
BRUH… The Penguin is a villain character since 1941, as a healthy human being you wasn’t supposed to support him but Vic. There is no more “humanization” of the villain, he is basically a straight up psychopath with Oedipus complex, there is no cure for PSYCHOPATHS. Rex by his own words said what you should do with Psychopaths: Put him in line as a “functional psychopaths” or just put him to rest. But Vic was the one who supported the villains, he HAD a CHOICE, we all saw it, well… we all know what happens if u go to the corrupted way of life.
Such a good point about Penguin deluding reality. His relationship with his mom, the killing of his brothers, even his idolization of Rex are all ways that he has painted over the reality of a situation with a fake version of it that makes him out to be the good guy and appeals to his selfishness. Shit's crazy. In the end Sophia was right: This whole time she's been telling Oz that she knows who he really is - a weasel that will do anything for power and turn on anyone - and we've been living in Penguin's delusion with him, trying to say that isn't true but the curtains are constantly being lifted through the show all the way up until the last episode when discards his mom and Vic. Also, it's funny how well Matt Reaves makes us feel like we live in Gotham. The bat signal is a symbol of hope, and just as our spirits have been crushed watching Oz throw away everyone close to him to get to the top, the bat signal lights up to gives us hope that justice will be served as if we were a citizen in Gotham.
Carmine murdered the press that didn’t go his way, Oz saw that and knew he needed to have the media on his side. It’s a small character growth but he learned how to do it better ever since he learned Carmine was a rat to win his empire in the Batman.
Sophia ain't no auntie hero. She murdered so many innocent people to. They're both villains. You might understand why she killed so many people that she did but she murdered innocent family members as well not just the ones that set her up. Some of them kids. She's a demon as well
He's a villain and he's not meant to be someone you root for, he's evil and that's the character. he is a well made character. I hope he stays for a while, it's not often you get good villains in superhero movies
Well…. Dexter and Detective Mackey were both evil villains not to root for and literally became ppl you root for 😂 and we haven’t had anything like that in forever cuz hollywood got scared of it for some reason. So we got stoopid villians like YOU on Netflix, but a solid villain solid type of evil in the world of Batman does work because of the setting. But it could have been its own thing, it was that good. 👍
Social not an anti hero, she's just another villain, she did some heinous shit, almost but not quite as bad as Penguin himself. She killed a teenager, killed her whole.family, left her niece in a fucked up orphanage, and blew up Crown Point, probably killing hundreds if not thousands of innocent people, how can she be the anti hero? An anti hero uses brutal means to eventually do the RIGHT thing. Nothing she did was right.
2:39 Your reaction to the show where you just interrupt yourself by laughing is hilarious!!! That's something I've done on vids on my channel a bunch and it's so much fun 🤣😂 I've subscribed to your channel btw. Keep up the good work 🤓👍
I thought Vic was going to die as they didn't want to bring the character over to the next Batman movie. I had no idea Oz was going to be the one killing him. That was a shock. I understand him doing it but doesn't make sense. And then, to top it off, Oz doesn't kill his girl Eve at the end of the movie but maybe he doesn't care for her as much as it seems. Excellent show! Colin Farrell was awesome!
You missed the point. Vic was killed because Oz realized he became too close to him which was his weakness. Eve is Oz’s weird way of seeing his mother in her. It was pretty obvious…He’s a psychopath 😂
You heard Agatha was good???. Who the fuck did you hear that from? Shogun is a must. In need. It was amazing from start to finish and I did not want it to end. Colin Farrell needs an Emmy or an award for his character acting in this show. He did an amazing visual performance and an amazing voice performance through and through. I feel like oz’s portrayal takes a Black Mass turn. Whitey Bulger esque portrayal. Just pure evil. Will get rid of anyone or anything to get what he wants. Uses the cops/government officials to eliminate the competition. And his mom is his stepping stone. Much like whitey’s son was. Would do anything for him. Kill for him. And once that person is gone, loses all sense of humanity.
I immediately had to watch The Batman after that finale just to watch Oz get his ass whooped. What a finale, what a series!! I'd put this up there with The Wire, Sopranos, Goodfellas, Godfather. Colin is unrecognizable and blew it out of the park. The acting, the music, the writing... It doesn't get much better from beginning to end.
Sounds crazy but if just if Matt Reeves does Mr freeze I'm very curious to see how they set that up Matt Reeves has actually combined more villains in one movie than any Batman director so far. But Vic being Mr freeze would flip the script because it was clues in the penguin series that it could happen especially when penguin and Vic were in the restaurant eating and Vic ordered something called frees he stuttered it so if not so be it but this series was very good and historic never been done before making a solid dedicated spin off from a Batman film this sets the tone fire how TV series should be done this series actually reminded me of the TV series power also very good series where the lead character kept surviving death situations as a black drug dealer but a mastermind and every body was taking each other out
There's no way they are using Mr Freeze. Matt Reeves will only make 3 movies. So he knows they all have to be connected. Probably he will do Court of Owls or Hush. Now that Penguin is working with the District Attorney, that means the next movie will be about the corruption in the government
This might seem a big reach but you don't actually know that Vic is dead, he may have just passed out. Oz didn't snap his neck or shoot him to make sure and he didn't even check for a pulse. The scene could have done its job in confirming to us how appalling Oz actually is, but it doesn't have to be the end for Vic .
I saw Vic's death coming since the beginning, I became convinced when we found out Oz killed his brothers. The only thing that matter to him was making his mother proud and making it to the top.
Oz isn't an underdog leader. He projects his insecurities and desire for power onto the other nameless gangsters but at the end of the day everything he does is to serve him and him alone
I think he turned on Vic because Penguin used other peoples family members as bargaining chips and almost got everything he wanted. It was the weakness of all of the gangsters of the movie.
"They all killed their bosses... There is no honor in this place" What can be more noble than kill your own boss? If you do, that's meant you were a good student.
For people who don’t get it. Here it is simply put. You felt like the Oz was going to turn on Vic at any moment but he’s so convincing he convinced the audience he truly saw him as a son, that he saw himself in him. Then when they finally got to the end when we forgot believing he would betray the one person most like him.. he did. That’s when the Penguin became the true villian 10/10
Interesting theory about is reasoning but I felt like oz felt like vic was too soft but influenced by oz himself as far as the way he turns on people that eventually somewhere down the line vic would try to fuck him over plus he's extremely selfish
Great take on the show and on the various characters. I am glad that they kept Oz a bad guy and not an antihero. Unlike Maleficent etc. that try to paint their villains as misunderstood. Here’s hoping we get to see Matt Reeves’ take on my boy Deathstroke in this Batman universe.
,my favorite scene where I saw Oz for what he really was when Sofia and him at gun point and he just trying to weasel himself out while foaming and spitting out his mouth
A good ending doesn't always mean a happy ending, and people who are unhappy with the ending just because they like Vic's character don't seem to understand this. What Oz did made sense for the character. Had Vic not told Oz that he's family, he would likely still be alive. It's not like he killed him randomly for no reason.
Couldn’t disagree more. Vic was a criminal and a murderer. Killed a man in cold blood, killed two with a car, assisted in murder etc. we just watched all the 2nd hand men kill their bosses, why wouldn’t Vic do the same? Plus he knew too much, was a liability. Also Sofia, we’re supposed to think she’s good cause she had sympathy for mom’s finger? She gassed her entire family and then condemned an innocent child. Mom, she went to have her son killed but kept him alive for personal gain. Oz never killed anyone who didn’t deserve it. He didn’t murder innocents. Oz was the better and less evil of the entire cast. He was just better at crime.
When I saw all the character development he got I knew he was gonna die. Especially because he had an out, I knew that choice to stay was his undoing. Oz was even supportive of him leaving. The irony is that if he left the Maronis’ would have won and killed Oz without Vic to save him. Great show, Oz is a villain.
Man I had to rewind that scene I was in so much shock by how Penguin did Vic I got teary eyed, but then what he did with his Mother, and having his GF wesr the dress she wore the night she was going to have him wacked...diabolical.
Ya but Vic didn't stand in the way of his mom like his brothers did. Vic was a loyal soldier who are near impossible to find. BUT, with Oz needing to appear squeaky clean, I think he was worried Vic would bring him down without even meaning to. Still though, it was shocking ending to me and sad. AND he didn't want any emotional attachment to anyone if he was going to run things.
You could definitely argue like that but storywise it was also important. Because it was mostly Vic saving him. Or Oz himself by being a smart mf. Nothing happened for no reason if that makes sense.
Court of Owls is DEFINITELY not happening… especially since Clayface has already been confirmed.. that would be too much at once.. it’ll probably be a trio of villians in the movie.. Penguin, Clayface and someone else.. (hopefully not Joker)
I think part of it is that he realized how much he’s done he doesn’t want Vic to ever take over like Vic got all the right hand men of the gangs together and oz peeped that
Collin Ferrell was absolutely amazing in this show. I look forward to seeing more 🐧 on TV/big screen. Also, I've BEEN screaming that they should give villians a TV show so folks can get to know them more. They deserve to have their story told as well.
After watching The Batman the Penguin series made a lot of sense. Sophia getting that surprise at the end and Oz transforming into a villain that we would eventually hate was part of the bigger plan for The Batman 2. Everything comes together perfectly.
Bro we need a damn Deathstroke series now. Manu Bennett crushed it on Arrow and I would love to see another portrayal. I can't wait to see where the ReevesVerse goes from here.
A part of me feels like Vic might survive but idk. The fact they chose choking as his way to go out, when eveeything else in the show seems alot more definitive.. i feel like its left up to interpretation on purpose. And like everyone is saying, his arc wasn't exactly finished. They could bring him back as a surprise villain maybe
Give Colin Farrell ALL THE AWARDS!!!!
How could you ever root for this guy?
@imsentinelprime9279 Colin's putting on a Heath Ledger level performance
@@imsentinelprime9279 im rooting for him sofia is more evil she has more bodies then oz
Like EVERY SINGLE ONE!!
They need to give the make up artist 1000x awards. The set. The mom needs to win an award. SHE KILLED IT.
He killed his own brothers victor never stood a chance
exactly what I was thinking, by the end I was like “why hasn’t he killed Vic yet if he killed his own brothers?”
Hey what is the difference between an anti hero and a villain?
An **anti-hero** is a protagonist with flawed, morally ambiguous traits who does good but in unconventional or selfish ways. A **villain** is an antagonist who opposes the hero and acts with malicious or destructive intent. Anti-heroes can be relatable; villains are typically adversarial.@@malimoor2654
@@malimoor2654
Being extremely general-
Anti hero: selfless means for selfish purposes
Villain: selfish means and selfish purposes.
@ wow have to read that again to sink in but thanks brother
When Vic called Oz his family, at that moment I fell to my knees cuz I knew what was coming. RIP Vic💔 🕊️ 10/10 episode
How did you know that? Because how family was used against him? What made you think that was his mindset? His body language showed me it was coming before he said “I can’t take you with me this time”
What kind of psychopath watches a show like this while standing? Or did you fall to your knees from the couch?
@@same.different LMAO
@@BeyondtheBox1Sofia said ozs greatest strength is that he’s close to no one …I knew oz would take Vic out eventually…ever since the first episode when he was gonna body him after he helped him …
Lmao wow
Take note Sony. This is how you do villain focused media..
Shhhh. Don't give them ideas. Just let their sad little universe die and let someone competent handle this xD
Yeah ? But guess what ? You will have an anti hero Kraven 😅.
@@donrog5035 honestly I don't mind the anti hero kraven. But Venom, and any other spiderman villains should be a villain. Kraven can be a villain, but can also be an anti hero, as he's a hunter. He could take a hit on spiderman or rhino and I think if done right, Aaron Taylor Johnson will do a GREAT job as Kraven
@@GatorST3I agree about ATJ as Kraven…..the trailer looks amazing, especially from what we see of his performance but, who knows how garbage the movie could be. Venom/Madame Web/Morbius make me a little worried lol.
BRO SOFIA KILLED A KID BLEW UP INNOCENT CIVILIANS KIDNAPPED A OLD WOMEN AND LEFT A LITTLE GIRL ORPHAN 😂WTFF???
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not just s little girl it was her niece! Didn't even take her in after offing her whole family
She’s hot who cares
She killed a kid? When?
@@senbowe2859first episode, caught and blamed for lying to Sofia about who killed her brother
GODDAMN I LOVE THE WRITING IN THIS SHOW.. a villian backstory that explains but doesnt excuse the villian, makes you see light in them and then at the end you see the real them... Chefs kiss 10/10
Not 2024 but if you haven't go watch Utopia (the us version then get mad it got canceled and go watch the uk version for the extra season) if you want something equally artistic as it is thought out, prolly my favorite series.. as far as 2024 "From" is a banger if you liked lost before it got dumb
@@buckweaver7961 yuuup he is truly a villain. Evil to the core
He could have even sent Vic away, but he chose to kill him. He wanted to kill Vic with his bare hands to also kill off that part of himself that can become attached to someone like he accidentally did with Vic
Yep and Victor saw his weakness
Why is everyone assuming that Vic is dead????
@@GetEvenNotMadbecause he is
@GetEvenNotMad yep got choked out and he didn't even check to see if he was finished , could be a comeback or not , would never know
@@FabriceFrancisquin no
The whole show was literally him screwing over every single person who was in a relationship with him. Victor was always dead when he was no longer useful. I still hope he comes back as a villain or something, but it was honestly the perfect way to show this penguin is really just a piece of shit that will do it ALL to win. This is probably the best fleshed out villain in all of live action Batman imo
@@ZzzNamorZzz facts
Though they made it unlikely for Vic to come back, I don’t think that the choke was very legit lol. We need some jiu jitsu experts to analyze the choke because I don’t think that choke would kill Vic let alone even put him to sleep that quick.
People feeling sorry for Sofia, forgetting that she killed a kid Vic's age in the first episode, murdered almost her whole family, killed a mentally handicapped patient and bombed a part of Gotham killing thousands. She is worse than Carmine, Penguin and just below the Riddler. She didn't need to be the real Hangman, she became something far worse.
Not far worse on par
I think it's easier to get behind her because she has empathy for others. Penguin would only be upset by a bomb like that going off because he'd be afraid he'd be held responsible for it.
@@yadonkno3320not to mention his lab. Spoiler: When he ran from that car, he didn't even warn the others. "It's a bomb! Run or hide!" Nothing.
Spoilers for those who didn't watch the show:
She had her reasons to kill Falcons, she spared a child and got her out of the crime world. She didn't kill thousands. Not part of Gotham. It was a single street. Yes, she disregarded civilians. Yes, it is bad. Writers a little bit over dramatized the size of explosion for such a little package. It had a lot of space, it should've dissipated through tunnels, maybe it hit a columns and collapsed a floor. Well actually I might be wrong and it also hit the gas pipes or something.
Oz and Sofia are different. One was born this way and wanted this life and was willing to do everything to get on top. The other was born into this world, was relatively stable, her family got her into hells and the only thing that kept her sanity in one piece, her brother - killed just a day after her exit of Arkham. So revenge was the only option.
Oz, a man who actually got her in this hell, played her and killed that brother of hers. She had so many reasons not to quit untill Oz is dead. And she got him 3 times only for him to escape again and again. On the beginning, in his flat, and after the explosion. The girl just needed to press a trigger for cause of all her problems to go away.
@@YakubBlackmann Bro both are are horrible individuals
I was so mad at how many times oz ratted when he always claimed he wasnt no rat 😭
Dude the show tells you everything you need to know about him, yet we refuse to see the truth and root for him 😂So well done
That's the gangster life 🤣
Vick was the audiance pulling for Oz throughout the show, it was perfect
Never thought about it like that 🔥🔥
BRUH… The Penguin is a villain character since 1941, as a healthy human being you wasn’t supposed to support him but Vic. There is no more “humanization” of the villain, he is basically a straight up psychopath with Oedipus complex, there is no cure for PSYCHOPATHS. Rex by his own words said what you should do with Psychopaths: Put him in line as a “functional psychopaths” or just put him to rest.
But Vic was the one who supported the villains, he HAD a CHOICE, we all saw it, well… we all know what happens if u go to the corrupted way of life.
He couldn’t look Vic in the eye while he took his life
Such a good point about Penguin deluding reality. His relationship with his mom, the killing of his brothers, even his idolization of Rex are all ways that he has painted over the reality of a situation with a fake version of it that makes him out to be the good guy and appeals to his selfishness. Shit's crazy. In the end Sophia was right: This whole time she's been telling Oz that she knows who he really is - a weasel that will do anything for power and turn on anyone - and we've been living in Penguin's delusion with him, trying to say that isn't true but the curtains are constantly being lifted through the show all the way up until the last episode when discards his mom and Vic.
Also, it's funny how well Matt Reaves makes us feel like we live in Gotham. The bat signal is a symbol of hope, and just as our spirits have been crushed watching Oz throw away everyone close to him to get to the top, the bat signal lights up to gives us hope that justice will be served as if we were a citizen in Gotham.
10:26 why was that Oz impression so good😂 bro was practicing in the mirror before recording 💀
Sounds like Rick Sanchez more than Oz 😂
I was about to write that too!
Carmine murdered the press that didn’t go his way, Oz saw that and knew he needed to have the media on his side. It’s a small character growth but he learned how to do it better ever since he learned Carmine was a rat to win his empire in the Batman.
Penguin deserves to have high ass medical bills
I hope his pillow is hot when he goes to sleep
I hope he gets a rock in his shoe on his good foot
Fr, Batman needs to break his bones.
Sophia ain't no auntie hero. She murdered so many innocent people to. They're both villains. You might understand why she killed so many people that she did but she murdered innocent family members as well not just the ones that set her up. Some of them kids. She's a demon as well
Sophia is definitely an auntie hero.
Ooo boy, I'd love to see a scene of Batman coming across that empty Penthouse room with Penguin's mom just laying there "looking" out the window.
He's a villain and he's not meant to be someone you root for, he's evil and that's the character. he is a well made character. I hope he stays for a while, it's not often you get good villains in superhero movies
Well…. Dexter and Detective Mackey were both evil villains not to root for and literally became ppl you root for 😂 and we haven’t had anything like that in forever cuz hollywood got scared of it for some reason. So we got stoopid villians like YOU on Netflix, but a solid villain solid type of evil in the world of Batman does work because of the setting. But it could have been its own thing, it was that good. 👍
He said i hate her psychiatrist! it should be me! 😂
You nailed it especially on how weak this last season of The Boys was.
Social not an anti hero, she's just another villain, she did some heinous shit, almost but not quite as bad as Penguin himself. She killed a teenager, killed her whole.family, left her niece in a fucked up orphanage, and blew up Crown Point, probably killing hundreds if not thousands of innocent people, how can she be the anti hero? An anti hero uses brutal means to eventually do the RIGHT thing. Nothing she did was right.
Sofias not an anti hero not social, fucking auto correct. Had to reply bc the tablet I use doesn't let me edit comments for some reason
2:39 Your reaction to the show where you just interrupt yourself by laughing is hilarious!!! That's something I've done on vids on my channel a bunch and it's so much fun 🤣😂 I've subscribed to your channel btw. Keep up the good work 🤓👍
Great video.
Also, your Penguin sounds like Rick from Rick and Morty.
Subscribed.
@@renaissanceinblack thanks man
I thought Vic was going to die as they didn't want to bring the character over to the next Batman movie. I had no idea Oz was going to be the one killing him. That was a shock. I understand him doing it but doesn't make sense. And then, to top it off, Oz doesn't kill his girl Eve at the end of the movie but maybe he doesn't care for her as much as it seems.
Excellent show! Colin Farrell was awesome!
You missed the point. Vic was killed because Oz realized he became too close to him which was his weakness. Eve is Oz’s weird way of seeing his mother in her. It was pretty obvious…He’s a psychopath 😂
"I hate the therapist, it should've been ME" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You heard Agatha was good???. Who the fuck did you hear that from?
Shogun is a must. In need. It was amazing from start to finish and I did not want it to end.
Colin Farrell needs an Emmy or an award for his character acting in this show. He did an amazing visual performance and an amazing voice performance through and through.
I feel like oz’s portrayal takes a Black Mass turn. Whitey Bulger esque portrayal. Just pure evil. Will get rid of anyone or anything to get what he wants. Uses the cops/government officials to eliminate the competition. And his mom is his stepping stone. Much like whitey’s son was. Would do anything for him. Kill for him. And once that person is gone, loses all sense of humanity.
I immediately had to watch The Batman after that finale just to watch Oz get his ass whooped. What a finale, what a series!! I'd put this up there with The Wire, Sopranos, Goodfellas, Godfather. Colin is unrecognizable and blew it out of the park. The acting, the music, the writing... It doesn't get much better from beginning to end.
Sounds crazy but if just if Matt Reeves does Mr freeze I'm very curious to see how they set that up Matt Reeves has actually combined more villains in one movie than any Batman director so far.
But Vic being Mr freeze would flip the script because it was clues in the penguin series that it could happen especially when penguin and Vic were in the restaurant eating and Vic ordered something called frees he stuttered it so if not so be it but this series was very good and historic never been done before making a solid dedicated spin off from a Batman film this sets the tone fire how TV series should be done this series actually reminded me of the TV series power also very good series where the lead character kept surviving death situations as a black drug dealer but a mastermind and every body was taking each other out
My boy Tariq 🔥
There's no way they are using Mr Freeze. Matt Reeves will only make 3 movies. So he knows they all have to be connected. Probably he will do Court of Owls or Hush. Now that Penguin is working with the District Attorney, that means the next movie will be about the corruption in the government
I would like to see the iconic scene when the bat breaks penguins spine that would be a humiliation for oz
Shogun is better than Penguin
Shogun is a straight up masterpiece
Penguin would be second imo
I don't get it... shogun was so bad imo
@loxread Yeah i spilled some tea so now I have to kill myself the end.
The physician will be scarecrow. Mark my words
This might seem a big reach but you don't actually know that Vic is dead, he may have just passed out. Oz didn't snap his neck or shoot him to make sure and he didn't even check for a pulse. The scene could have done its job in confirming to us how appalling Oz actually is, but it doesn't have to be the end for Vic .
Don’t Forget He Is A Villain
Awesome review loving the channel
thanks man
I saw Vic's death coming since the beginning, I became convinced when we found out Oz killed his brothers. The only thing that matter to him was making his mother proud and making it to the top.
Oz isn't an underdog leader. He projects his insecurities and desire for power onto the other nameless gangsters but at the end of the day everything he does is to serve him and him alone
I think he turned on Vic because Penguin used other peoples family members as bargaining chips and almost got everything he wanted. It was the weakness of all of the gangsters of the movie.
More importantly, he mom just got used as a bargaining chip against him.
"They all killed their bosses... There is no honor in this place"
What can be more noble than kill your own boss? If you do, that's meant you were a good student.
The only problem I had with the Penguin series is it didn't feel connected to The Batman movie.
I love every single iteration of penguin , I don’t want to see my man go. I love my crime families and bosses.
Agatha All Along was actually surprisingly excellent. But yes, its not better than Penguin
The" scorpion and the frog" fable
It would be interesting if the Batman universe went Batman movie, penguin show, batman 2, zaz show, Batman 3, mad hatter show, and so on.
Show makers Finally making the villan do villianous thing instead of giving him a sad backstory as excuse for being a villan
For people who don’t get it. Here it is simply put. You felt like the Oz was going to turn on Vic at any moment but he’s so convincing he convinced the audience he truly saw him as a son, that he saw himself in him. Then when they finally got to the end when we forgot believing he would betray the one person most like him.. he did. That’s when the Penguin became the true villian 10/10
Oswald killed Vic so nobody else would. He actually saved him.
@@EDDIETRUJILLO-q8p based
😂😂😂 although possibly true dumbest logic I've ever heard
Interesting theory about is reasoning but I felt like oz felt like vic was too soft but influenced by oz himself as far as the way he turns on people that eventually somewhere down the line vic would try to fuck him over plus he's extremely selfish
Great take on the show and on the various characters. I am glad that they kept Oz a bad guy and not an antihero. Unlike Maleficent etc. that try to paint their villains as misunderstood. Here’s hoping we get to see Matt Reeves’ take on my boy Deathstroke in this Batman universe.
Vic needed to die for Oz to become The Penguin
,my favorite scene where I saw Oz for what he really was when Sofia and him at gun point and he just trying to weasel himself out while foaming and spitting out his mouth
Finally a villain can be a villain again
14:27 I think she actually is the Court of Owls
Shogun and The Penguin are best shows of 2024.
Ayoooo you do have a point about the court of owls if Oz is going to be with the elites then Batman 2 should see him where he’s at now
My thing was how he didn't see that coming
Vic is going to be that character that mumbles .
He's a surgeon or something in the comic I think
Well he unalived His own brothers so it’s like he eliminates Family like VIC 🥶
The batman sign at the end was the topping on the cake 10/10 show
Vic's death makes both the Penguin, and what had gone before all the more compelling and provoking. And that make up! That deserves awards in itself
Victor von Doom should get this level of treatment in a series.
sophia is scary af. Her stare when she capture and interogate oz is amazing its convince me she is real lose canon, even tho she isn't.
WHAT!!!?!!?? he knew what was gonna happen to the that boy from the get go. Everybody I think knew what was gonna happen
After Penguin strangled Victor I couldn’t help but think Oz was the hangman this whole time
A good ending doesn't always mean a happy ending, and people who are unhappy with the ending just because they like Vic's character don't seem to understand this. What Oz did made sense for the character. Had Vic not told Oz that he's family, he would likely still be alive. It's not like he killed him randomly for no reason.
Dude loving the deathstroke mask great channel by the way 🤘🏼
he gonna become Solomon Grundy
Vick will be night wing
Couldn’t disagree more. Vic was a criminal and a murderer. Killed a man in cold blood, killed two with a car, assisted in murder etc. we just watched all the 2nd hand men kill their bosses, why wouldn’t Vic do the same? Plus he knew too much, was a liability.
Also Sofia, we’re supposed to think she’s good cause she had sympathy for mom’s finger? She gassed her entire family and then condemned an innocent child.
Mom, she went to have her son killed but kept him alive for personal gain.
Oz never killed anyone who didn’t deserve it. He didn’t murder innocents. Oz was the better and less evil of the entire cast. He was just better at crime.
Love the video but just wanted to say every time you tried a penguin voice you sounded like Rick from Rick and Morty haha :p
loool ive been told
i don’t know why but it feels like vic will return as clayface or as a member of the owls
When I saw all the character development he got I knew he was gonna die. Especially because he had an out, I knew that choice to stay was his undoing. Oz was even supportive of him leaving. The irony is that if he left the Maronis’ would have won and killed Oz without Vic to save him. Great show, Oz is a villain.
Man I had to rewind that scene I was in so much shock by how Penguin did Vic I got teary eyed, but then what he did with his Mother, and having his GF wesr the dress she wore the night she was going to have him wacked...diabolical.
I knew it was coming the moment Vic didn't go meet that girl in the airport.
Victor Zasz is alive
No show will ever be as good as Mr robot in my opinion but this one came close for me.
Ya but Vic didn't stand in the way of his mom like his brothers did. Vic was a loyal soldier who are near impossible to find. BUT, with Oz needing to appear squeaky clean, I think he was worried Vic would bring him down without even meaning to. Still though, it was shocking ending to me and sad. AND he didn't want any emotional attachment to anyone if he was going to run things.
This is a VILLIAN. Not a fucking anti hero. MCU keeps doing anti hero bullshit. DC, This is a villian and how a villian is made.
James Gunn has nothing to do with this. I'm hoping he does well but don't give him credit for Penguin it's Matt's baby.
This and Shogun have been the most impressive to me recently with the high level of acting in each
It was good but it was ridiculous. He got captured nearly every episode and got out in some ridiculous way
You could definitely argue like that but storywise it was also important. Because it was mostly Vic saving him. Or Oz himself by being a smart mf. Nothing happened for no reason if that makes sense.
He's got strange luck on his side just like in the comics.
We were never supposed to root for Oz why would we root for a villain
The Gentlemen is freakin awesome
Zaffy deserves a million subs. Dude puts out amazing content
thanks man
Foundation wasnt on there, neither was Silo
@@sagemyruss gotta watch silo
penguin is a villian, bro. he is meant to be hated
Court of Owls is DEFINITELY not happening… especially since Clayface has already been confirmed.. that would be too much at once.. it’ll probably be a trio of villians in the movie.. Penguin, Clayface and someone else.. (hopefully not Joker)
When Oz went “ahh f***” i knew it was over for vic
I think part of it is that he realized how much he’s done he doesn’t want Vic to ever take over like Vic got all the right hand men of the gangs together and oz peeped that
They better have a hell of a climax if we make it to Batman 3. Give Penguin/Farrell a villainous send off he deserves
Colin Farrel is fucking amazing.
Collin Ferrell was absolutely amazing in this show. I look forward to seeing more 🐧 on TV/big screen.
Also, I've BEEN screaming that they should give villians a TV show so folks can get to know them more. They deserve to have their story told as well.
After watching The Batman the Penguin series made a lot of sense. Sophia getting that surprise at the end and Oz transforming into a villain that we would eventually hate was part of the bigger plan for The Batman 2. Everything comes together perfectly.
Bro we need a damn Deathstroke series now. Manu Bennett crushed it on Arrow and I would love to see another portrayal. I can't wait to see where the ReevesVerse goes from here.
A part of me feels like Vic might survive but idk. The fact they chose choking as his way to go out, when eveeything else in the show seems alot more definitive.. i feel like its left up to interpretation on purpose.
And like everyone is saying, his arc wasn't exactly finished. They could bring him back as a surprise villain maybe
They are both evil. They can both catch The Bathands.
You didn’t watch Shogun, then you can’t say the penguin is the best show of 2024.
6:46 Oz got that BDE
The Closes people to you. Will betray you. RIP Vic 🕊