AIR BAGGED TRAILER, Part 3: AIR, ELECTRIC AND TESTS!!!!!!!!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- HI guys! I'm done with the fabrication of the air bagged trailer!! OH YES!
Now it's time to test it!! Is it gonna lift the Smart Hayabusa?? Hope so!
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A tip for wiring coming from the outside, going to an interior (dry) section: Make a droop loop. At 8:14, that cable goes straight into the wiring gland, coming from a higher place. Wires tend to collect and guide water. In theory, that gland should hold out that water, but nothing is perfect. If you instead make the cable droop to below the gland, and then go back up into it, the gland no longer is the lowest point, so water will go to the bottom of the droop loop, and drip off, instead of following the wire to the gland, and trying to get in there.
Again, the gland should hold out water, and it probably will, but it never hurst to have two layers of protection instead of one. Just some good practice IMO.
Wow - that was the best comment I think I have ever read! Awesome feedback, I hope he takes it!
Love the build! I'd recommend you try loading the Smart on backwards to get the majority of it's weight in front of the axle.
Going on where the engine is in the Smart, it's centre of gravity is close to where his trailer axle is. Putting it on backwards would put most of the weight too far forward
I've had great results out of the Slam Specialties airbags. They seem to be honestly rated for weight capacity. The RE6 and RE7 bags have a 3" collapsed height (with an internal bumpstop) and will fully extend to 10.5" and 11 respectively".
They are just about the gold standard in the minitruckin community (along with the viair 480c compressors unless you run an engine driven compressor).
Beautiful build, and I'm looking forward to more projecct videos in the future!
Somebody suggested that manufacturer to me too! Did a bit of research and the RE 8 seems even a better fit for the price, the size and the capacity! Thanks for the advice, now that 2 guys from the mini truck community pointed out that company, I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet! 👍👍👍
Love your build! I also use a too small winch on my car trailer so I add a snatch block and have the winch cable double back to a large eye hook mounted next to the winch. Makes the 2500lbs winch behave like it’s significantly larger
That's was recommanded in the winch brochure...didn't had the time to do it, not sure yet if I'll use it, it's already really slow, but maybe in the futur! 🤷♂️ Thanks for the comment!
I like the drop deck trailer. Only thing I might would do differently is add a piece of 3/8” chain by the airbags in case one failed while traveling. Two inches of slack in the chains with the trailer at ride height would allow the suspension to work but not allow the trailer to slam down if one of the bags failed or the air line got ripped off
Something that you'll unhook before slamming it down?
I agree with some safety chains
A skid plate, if the bags fail, at least you will go viral
These type of air bags are common on semi truck suspension so I would not have concern of failure. With proper periodic inspection as on any trailer. Especially if they are of a good quality brand should not have many issues. Only suggestion I would make would be a stop block to limit compression of the airbags when totally deflated during loading and unloading to save wear and tear on the bags. My 2 cents Very enjoyable project to watch glad the algorithm brought this video up.... definitely a like and subscribe.
Suspension normally has a rubber bump stop at the end of its travel, something like that might be prudent?
Love your trailer sir. My only recommendations are first I would add a wireless winch controller too your winch and use the cabled one for backup purpose. would make loading easier. the second is weld on some D-ring shackles or even mount an etrax system to give it some more strapping locations. the final thing i would do is in your open center location. add a storage box for straps, chains and tie-downs. really more just some accessorizing ideas. Otherwise like i said awesome trailer sir. cant wait for you to post plans. I like to build one for hauling my four wheelers. the easy on easy off functionality would be awesome.
Using the 120v with the sine inverter is a really great idea. The 12v compressors are really overpriced and have tiny little pistons that wear out. The versatility of the inverter and being able to use the compressor are really making me reconsider making my next trailer with an air suspension. I still don't like having another battery to maintain, so I've been thinking of just hand/drill winch powering it. Good job.
Could probably get away with using the trailer wiring hookup with a constant live
Finally the last trailer video. Thanks!
You are a very smart guy. I like your cutting style from the videos. It's nice to see a funny guy who does a really good job.
Best regards from Austria
Thanks man! That is a really thgouhtful comment! Very appréciated! 👍
How can this channel not have a ton of subscribers? It’s craftsmanship is outstanding combined with extraordinary engineering skills
Thanks Thomas...I'm getting more subs every day...it's long long process starting a channel! Thank you for your kind words buddy! 👍
I absolutely love this trailer project! I literally designed my own version of an air suspension trailer very similar to yours several years back. I just never had the means to actually build it. So it just made it so satisfying seeing your build come together.
The only thing I would mention is that most suspension air springs are rated for much higher pressures than your light duty compressor can produce. I come from the minitruck world and it is not uncommon for guys to be running 200+ psi systems. Viair actually makes a few 12v 200psi 100% duty cycle compressors (like the 480C and 485C) that would be perfect for this application.
wow, impressionné! super bien équipé, ton atelier maison!!! J'en suis jaloux!!!
Hey merci Francois👌
Hey Viny, buy a drop hitch for your SUV and it will help level your trailer without making structural changes. On my car hauling trailer, when I pull it with my 4 wheel drive GMC K1500 pickup truck, I have to use a 5.5" drop hitch. When I pull it with my Chevy Express 3500 (1 ton van) I use a 3.5" drop hitch. You'll just have to measure for what you need, but you probably will only need a 2.5" or 3.5" drop hitch to help level that trailer up.
i'm already scrapping some driveway entrances with the hitch...😢 But thanks for the tip! 👍
The detail of your work is so well thought out. Great job on this build.
Thanks Shane!
I've been working on a design of a simple off-road camp trailer that drops down to the ground for a wheelchair user. Lifts and ramps take up much needed room and add unneeded weight. Your single axle air suspension system appears to be a great fit to my project. Only now I have to do the math to add roughly double the lift height of your trailer. Way above my paygrade. lol Great series, your videos enjoyable to watch ...
Love the concept, I collect/deliver ride-on lawnmowers and we built our own bespoke trailer - finally finishing it last year. But the rear our trailer is too low to the ground for some roads I travel on (Irish roads are nowhere near as your good Canadian roads) where the grass grows in the centre of them.
Might look at installing an airbag system during the winter when we quieten down, one that will give me lift/height in the rear when driving and the ability to lower the deck to the ground for driving machines on/off.
You are an inspiration to us "uneducated" :-)
Very cool stuff. I'm very seriously contemplating doing this with a recently acquired frame and axle only of a camping trailer(16x8). Great quality build here for sure, well done. also you may or not know this but im going to tell you anyways in case you dont. with those cheap chinese air solenoids, if you take of the mufflers and route them back to the tank through a "Tee" and a check valve you wont have to worry about air loss from your tank, because it continues to recycle itself while not impeding the double acting ability. have a good one again good job
Absolutely phenomenal project!!! May I make a small suggestion? No matter the size of trailer I fabricate or repair I wire all the trailer wires into a sealed junction box and add toggle switches to remotely activate the park lights and/or hazard flashers without needing to be hooked up via the haul vehicle. It's come in handy when parking the trailer on the hard shoulder or when the haul vehicle has had electrical or connection issues.
P.S. I forget to state I install an AGM U1 battery too....
I cant wait for your future videos on remodeling that camper home.
Cool!! Some positif feed back about something else then welded and grinded projects! Thanks man!
Another good addition to your trailer would be a 50amp anderson connector for the battery for disconnect during the winter.
For the airbags they do need a lot of air. Tractor-trailers run 100 plus lbs. The air system builds to 125 to 130 before cutting out. Wasn't surprised you needed to go that high. Nice series of videos. 👍
No a fully loaded semi normally runs around 50-70psi at 34000 lbs(70-80 psi at 40000) on the drives with an empty trailer they only run 30-50 psi and empty 15-30 psi they use a load height valve to maintain a set ride height with an air dump valve for kneeling the suspension to get under the trailer king pin plates.
Nice work on the trailer. Fit up a little roller for the winch cable to run on over the 1st steel bar it has to pass over, make it easier to drag cars up. A couple little welded on brackets, a v belt pulley and shaft for the pulley to run on.
Some 4wd roof racks have them on the front of the roof rack so you can use your winch to drag the small "tinny" boat up and onto the roof rack.
Found the second part of your trailer build in my RUclips recommended. Watched that one and then this one. Still have to check out the first video. Definitely interested in the plans and will have to subscribe just so I know when they are available. 🍻
Sure will!!! Thanks for the subscribtion!
Good job fella. I enjoyed the music, the humor, and the skillset. Thank you for posting. Made my day a little better as I just binge watched all three vids..
Thanks Richard! Glad you enjoyed it!
From a mini truck guy.. Slam specialty re6 or re7 would be a much better bag. Lifts more with less pressure and will last a lot longer. Plus with that kind of wait id expect to see 120psi + to get the advertised lift
Dude the RE7 are a total replacement to the D2600 of air lift! 200psi, looks better built, don't now the max capacity load...but sure looks better then the D2600! They seem to be out of stock right now, but thanks for the hint! I took good note of this!
Although I won’t be buying the plans for this from you it is a really good design. For the drawings to be of value it would have a lot more information that you simply did get. The fact that you had to test the trailers lifting capacity means you hadn’t done the math to know that answer already. Can’t blame you as I would have simply over built it to save the time anyway. So what did I get from this video series? Honestly you built a prototype that offers everyone the chance to see what they can do and a few things they shouldn’t do like when you lifted the trailer over and stood on the ladder. You shared so many good ideas that it makes a great jumping point for me to try my hand at an alternate design. Over all you impressed me with the completed results and I believe that you built something that will serve you well for a long time. Thank you so much for all the information and a few laughs. Oh by the way the kids were a great addition to the video. I loved their reactions and seeing how impressed they were with you. Great job dad! Keep it up.
Nice press brake!
Excellent box build.
I'm glad to see you teaching your son.
Another project compromised by "winging it" instead of designing and researching upfront.
i bet that thing was suuupper Fn smooth to drag, with the wheels being completely independent and dragged after the pivot and the airbags like u said, omg yea i bet it towed like a dream
Hey Travis, just came back from a trip with the smart busa on the trailer (went drifting 🤫) It was a breeze to tow my friend!👍👍👍
Thanks for your time and effort to show us (the RUclips family) your creation. I really enjoyed your videos. Creative, very interesting and quite funny at times haha.
great work on your trailer build. I build trailers also. I build gooseneck/5th wheel trailers.
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Thanks Chris! Glad you found my vids entertaining! 👍😁
Dang bro!! what do you do for a living?? . That trailer came out so sweet!!! Love the box . So clean looking
Nice touch with the compressor! I can't live without one!
Found this while looking to build my own to trailer my mustang… this is inspiring!!!
Wow, tout a coup, 22K subscribers! Good job Viny. I’d have so many collaborations in mind if we weren’t so far from one another! Beau travail, TRÈS instructif!
WHAT 22K!!!! Oh no...just 12K..damn it man! Just joking here, still glad that I had that boost of subs 😁
@@VinyB57 I don't know if you guys can't read or count but it says 18k....
What is going on here?!
Just watched this series strictly to see how to do an air bag setup for a travel trailer I’m planning on building. You’re a great fabricator 👍🏼
Thanks Jake!
Found your video yday, have been planning to put air ride on 2 of my trailers. Watched all 3 in your build series plus a couple more. Very nice simple design you have and I love your presentation.
Cheers from Alberta.
A suggestion…. Make some removable bump stops for driving to stop the trailer dragging its arse if you have a airline or airbag blow, then remove the bump stop for controlled air down
I know the back of the trailer is sitting on the ground, but if the trailer is hooked up to the tow vehicle during load/unload, it will be more stable and safer. Impressed with the build. Good work.
I’m going to do this to my newly purchased (home built and rusty) trailer as part of its resto. Thank you so much for this idea!
Glad it was helpful! 👍
Agree with limiting the height for travel and would add one thing as well. I would change the air lines that you used to the type you would find on commercial trucks. They are commonly called Synflex (Eaton Name Brand). These have a nylon braid internally and are much more resilient to temperature, pressure and most chemicals and fuels. Any commercial truck supplier or dealer will have them by the foot. Since you will be on the road with this trailer you really don't want an air line failing.
Love the idea you have. I've watched all the videos. Great job all around. The comment that I want to make is that I think you will need to add a ridge to the outside of your airbag plate. If you look at minute 15.07, with the load, you can see that plate is bowed. This might cause a stress crack/failure later.
What if you put a 2-3" spacer between the swing arm and top of the bags. Then you wouldn't need 90-100 psi to lift it higher.
Also you should find the center of gravity of the Busa and always put that above the trailer axle so you won't have trailer sway!!
Nevermind, I saw you last trailer video & saw your adjustments. 😁
Muchas Felicidades Joven Por Su Canal.
Saludos Cordiales Desde Mazatlán, Sinaloa, México. ..
je viens tout juste de tomber sur ta chaine, sincèrement j'adore tes vidéo, surtout le petit coté humoristique :P je pense je vais en écouter pas mal aujourd'hui
Cool! Merci Jay et bonne écoute! 👍
Random youtube suggestion and now a new subscriber. Awesome build; that was very fun to watch!
I watch all 3 parts and i love your trailer! Maybe one day i build my own for my drift jag :P off course i leave subscribe!
Tabarnack, that’s one fancy wagon!
I have a similar project where I am cutting an old boat trailer down to 16 feet and making it a flat-deck motorcycle trailer. Originally, I was going to pull the leaf packs and coil spring and 4 bar it. I have been mulling over air bags instead of the coils. I'll have to add a panhard bar or Z link to keep the axel located. I'm also going to add shocks like you. I think I can get the back of the deck on the ground like you did as the axel is a straight axel with a drop spindle.
I love the trailer and you have done a great job. Thanks for putting this up and keep up the great work!
Viny, try adding shocks to the suspension of your travel trailer. It should reduce some of the feedback.
Very nice build !
i really think you are one of the best visionist of our time
Glad I found your channel man. You had a smile on my face and had me laughing. Been kinda down keep up the awesome work!
Great build 👍
Well done. Darlington, South Carolina USA
Thanks papa and Bubba 👍
Nice work love your videos...im from new Zealand and love how the joy of engineering some thing and making it work is across the world..👍👍👍Great stuff!
Thank you very much! Glad that joy is spread across the world! Greeting from Canada! 🖐
If you change your hitch to one with a drop to level out the trailer. I'd measure from the top of the frame nearest the truck and in the back in the same plane. Find the difference between the two and then divide by 2. That should be what you want for a drop on your hitch. Should level it out nicely. On the air spring binding, could you put pivot like you have on the top also on the bottom? You could also add a doubler on the winch line so it won't work so hard. Cheaper than a new winch and the added load to your system. That thing is freaking awesome!!
I like your trailer design. Coming to you from the West , oh and subscribed now
That's an awesome build!
May I recommend that you change those air bags for trucks air bags. See those are cheap, will give you whatever height you need, and won't be overloaded with 2k lbs.
As a trailer manufacture owner here in florida that is very impressive you did all this !
Oh thanks Brandon! I'm far from a manufacturer of anyting, so glad I've got your approval!
Sub'd, watched this build and have a complete appreciation for your detail oriented work.
Good to see such a capable guy.
Thank you very much, I enjoyed all three videos less you you have a blessed day you and your family I appreciate your friendliness .
Thanks DP, very kind of you! 👍
awesome. You should add an antirollbar, so both sides will balance while you push up the trailer.
Oh, that's next level design, maybe a bit over kill, but really feasible. 👍
Really nice build, may have to use the idea for my model cars and trucks. That blew my mind that you built it for scratch... Great job 👍🏾
I'm very envious of your skill level brotha! Excellent job!
Hey Meo , ça fonctionne, think big osty ,😂😂😂😂, bravo Champion , des heures de plaisir, beau travail, ça fonctionne jamais la première fois , toujours la dernière fois 👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
Really nice build, love how it turned out
I love the car, and this trailer. so jelly yet very happy for you congrats and keep up the good content!
Serieux good job je suis vraiment content de voir des projet comme sa provenant du quebec . Continue comme sa.
You should check out the commercial trailer air bags and associated equipment. I think the airbags on my trailer are Meritor and are available in different diameters and travels. Your trailer shouldn't need more than 50 to 65 psi at full load for long life. At 90 psi, if you were to hit a pothole or road debris at speed the pressure could be high enough to cause a failure. ( From experience, the bang is impressive! )
i'm sure the bang is memorable! I'm getting confused now, some say don't over pressurise, others say the opposite and both sides claim having experiences with bags. I get that we don't all the same type and manufacturer of bags too.....well I guess I will have to have a go my self and see the limits of the air bags which is 100psi... It may create a memorable experience too! 😅
@@VinyB57 it's mere physics, a circumstance that can be calculated. For instance if you were traveling at 50 mph and hit a 2" tall object, what's the pressure rise from 60psi vs 90psi? Or at 10 mph you bumped up on a curb about 6", same pressures?
I R Trucker ! Lol
Excellent build!! Just discovered your channel, new sub!!!
Congrats on the views and great job on the trailer cant wait to see the Smart running at speed
Thank you Mister Golberg! 👍
2:50 As a Dutchman I agree!
Thank you for your passion of creation! Your videos are top notch and you sir are very skilled and hilarious! I'm excited to see what else you work on and to watch your channel grow quickly!
Thank you very much! Hope I won,t desapoint you in the futur I've got a tons of cool projects in my mind, I know a differential will be one next!
I've just subscribed to your channel and Man you are Talented! I'm learning a lot from your videos!
hey thanks Luke, glad you joined! 🤙
Super cool 👍 I have a project trailer that I’m working on double axle it would be a little bit too late to change it to the way you have it
But I still love yours , nice work Bravo 👏
Hey big thanks! 🤙
Fantastic job with the trailer!
Viny, Add the camera bracket on top of the guide wings if you decide to make one. It works like a charm.Sorry no photos of mine. Sold it with the 4x4 .🇿🇦🇦🇺🇬🇪🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
The spare switch could be used to turn on position/marker lights in case you have to leave the trailer unhooked close to the road due to flat etc.
Love the trailer, good vork.
Thanks Robert!
Nice job. I am building a trailer my self in the next few months planning to have a 35’ flat bed. I like the air bag system that you used but I think I am going to do a hydraulic rear beaver tail. Fellow Canadian. Nice work.
Thanks man, have a great built!
Great series on the trailer.
Yes it’s been a while but just looking at it, and I’m not a genuine engineer but I think I would put a little more angle in the shock absorber to make it a bit more responsive and work just a little more. Use its travel
Awesome Work Dude !!! I’m a fan.
Hey Viny! Just wathced your Part 1-3 of the Trailer build. And I love your videos! Your style of videography and your precision in building is absolutely awesome. I just subscribed to your channel :)
Awesome, thank you! Welcome aboard! 👍👍👍
i would recommend getting a better battery for the trailer system, I'm not sure how long that little battery will power those things for. Maybe get a marine deep cycle battery from Walmart for around 100$ or better yet get a lithium battery from amazon.
I like the solar+inverter+battery+mains compressor idea. Another idea that doesn't suit your frame design very well but that I will use if I ever build one of these things is to USE the frame as air tank. My frame design has large rectangular box down each side as the main rails with 2" cross beams between to support the deck. My intent was to use the side rails as large air tank AND the air lines to get close to the bags. Feed air in one side and pull it out the other. If well sealed they'd hold air indefinitely so you could prefill at home from a real compressor and just let the baby one maintain the tanks high. Then regulate what you want in the bags from there. Another thing you can do to make the bags more linear in their spring rate is to add a tank in parallel to them so that when the bag compresses it compresses the air in the small tank at the same time. Air bags are unique in that if you take that too far you could have enough pressure to support a large load but very little capacity for the load to change without the ride height changing drastically. On the flip side, without such a tank the pressure in the bags rises rapidly as they compress and you end up with a very bouncy feel that's unnatural to someone used to springs. Tuning that tank size is to tune your spring rate. Could be done ghetto style at first while tuning then build in the required volume once you have a feel for what you want.
About your ride height issues, there's two problems, one is the ball height on your tow vehicle, and the other is a lack of travel in the wheel itself. I suspect you need to put more load on the bags with more rocker ratio, so to speak. But if they can't stomach more load then adding a second axle and two more bags AND changing the geometry is the way to go.
I fredio, nerver really though about using the rails for air tanks, I mean I do sketchy stuff, but putting pressure in a structural component, that's another level of sketchyness for me. But it's a idea too and having multiple ideas for a problem is a key of success, so thanks for comment, also, stay tune this week for the video part 4, spoiler alert, I fixed the height problem...kinda easily!
@@VinyB57 Looking forward to it. I don't think it's sketchy at all, even hot rolled in 3mm wall wouldn't flex much with 100psi in it, certainly not enough to stress any butt weld joints onto the sides of it. Especially not if they're evenly frequently spaced and hold the role bracing the sides :-)
awesome build
I'm glad you like it
What is there to say that hasn't already been said? But let it be known. Which it already is. You do some amazing work. Awesome video. You just gained another subscriber.
Love the build as for the bags just go for a larger diameter bags easily fixed
go see part 4, I resolved the problem 😁
2M views!!!! That’s amazing. Also, great job on the trailer.
Those are springs, or bags, should be fine. They are designed to run with far more than 90psi. I’ve been building air suspension for decades and can tell you that a cantilever like you have takes more air pressure under load. Air them up until it’s where you want the ride height and don’t worry about it unless it’s 200psi. I expect it will need at least 120.
Thanks Chad, like I said, I'm no expert in air bags, so I'll try at least 100psi and see how they react! (that's the limit the manufacturer puts) I ran with 90 psi, so 10 psi should have a impact in the height! Don't think I have the balls for 120 psi yet....once I buy bigger ones, I might have some fun with the old ones and maybe see their limits. Thanks for the advice Chad!
Belle job Viny!!!
Merci! 😁
Air suspension is the only way to go for a trailer. It provides a smooth ride as well as variable height. A couple of things you might consider is carrying a spare bag or building some metal spacers to take the place of the bag in case a bag or your air supply fails and covering the bags with something to keep the sunlight off of them.
You read my mind my friend! Building steel spacers are in the TODO list since a the beginning of the project.
a joy to watch. no bull shit between. you may not know it, but you're a star.
Thanks J Drano! But naaaan... I m not a star! Just glad I could share my project with a bigger audience! 😁👍
Now you need some “Air Ride Equipped” stickers like the big Tractor Trailers have.
This is awesome, but you don't want to let airbags get compressed like that. Maybe, if you have the willpower, get some triple play airbags and redesign the arms so that you can go from 5 psi to 40 psi to get your range of motion. Again, i think this is awesome! If you're not going to redesign it, just keep an eye on the bags! Wouldn't want you to have a blowout and end up in a ditch. Perhaps... Bump stops? I don't know. I still think this is very cool.
New sub btw
Thanks for the tips! Welcome aboard Jeff!
@@VinyB57 the other thing is, the trailer is so smooth because you put shocks on it. Most trailers are just spring so this is pretty rad. You also chose to put the articulation in a direction where when the tire sees bumps, it is allowed to move up and back so it doesn't have to fight the bump and suspension geometry as much. It's a pretty neat design.
This project makes me want to learn how to weld... and i don't even really need a trailer like that.
Cool build would like it higher up but nice all the same . Catch up on next one
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Thanks 👍
I Built by own tandem Airbagged car trailer, Granted its alot bigger and heavier than yours but i found needing to use 160psi+ on 4x slam specialties RE bags to get it high enough for safe car travels, might need to dial the pressure up
Thanks for the feed back man, got those slam specialities on the way, gonna crink that pressure up for sure! 👍👍👍
I think the reason the winch slowed as the load came on the trailer is the winch drum diameter increased thus putting it in an increasing higher gear. This is what I've found winching logs.
Forgot to add ,beautiful job.